#1640 Bush League
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Tammy and her son are interviewing together. Devon (13) has T1D.
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Scott Benner 0:00
Welcome back, friends to another episode of The Juicebox Podcast.
Tammy 0:14
I'm Tammy. I have a 13 year old son who's here, Devin, who was diagnosed with type one a little over a year and a half ago.
Scott Benner 0:23
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Tammy 2:51
Med, I'm Tammy. I have a 13 year old son who's here, Devin, who was diagnosed with type one a little over a year and a half ago. Devin, how old are you? I'm 1313,
Scott Benner 3:04
she wasn't lying. No, she's not good with phones, so I wasn't sure if she was bad with numbers too. I thought I would check. Here we go. Tammy, have you you've been on the show before, right? Yes. Do you know what your episode was called? Remember?
Devon 3:19
No. Devon, do you remember I can check No,
Scott Benner 3:22
don't check them. What you're not the producer on, like, a comedy podcast. I don't need you pulling stuff up while we're chatting.
Tammy 3:29
It just came out in June, I think. So it's been out two, three months, September, yeah, yeah,
Scott Benner 3:35
that's like 50 episodes ago. I don't remember either. Yeah, it's funny, though. The first thing I remembered when you jumped on was your voice because, like, I was immediately drawn to go, are you in Wisconsin? Like that was,
Tammy 3:47
Well, do you remember that was part of what we talked about? I said you wanted to know where I was, because you wanted to keep everybody away from the area, because our doctor was terrible, yes. Also, I said, Oh, we're from Chicago. And you're like, Yeah, I already know that. And I'm like, Wait, how do you know that?
Scott Benner 4:04
You sound so similar to my sister in law, who's like, from Wisconsin, right near Chicago.
Tammy 4:09
Okay, I was gonna say because typical Wisconsin is not Chicago. There's a little bit of a difference. Guess what? Starts getting like Minnesota, Canada.
Scott Benner 4:19
No, not that far. She's more, yeah, she's more. Like that, the other way, nevertheless, like, it occurred to me when we were like, trying to get you set up, which people will never know the horror of it, but it's, it's been, it's been 22 minutes, and I still don't love how everything is set up, but we've given up, just so you all know, the audio quality is where we could get it. I was having an internal monolog with myself, not about you guys and your inability to use technology, but but about your voice and how it made me want to say something. And I thought, Oh, wow, to think like you really when you're making a podcast, you have to be careful about that your natural inclinations towards things. You can't just do them over and over again forever and ever. You know what I mean, like, like, or you'd be like, Oh no, I heard this one before, and you didn't. It's just my dumb first reaction to things. So it reminded me to, like, pause for a minute before I say something. So I appreciate this. Devin, you're how old 13? Did we say 13? What happened you were? I mean, obviously you got the diabetes and all. But do you remember? How do you remember how it came on and what all occurred?
Devon 5:26
Yeah, like, a little bit before I was diagnosed, I got covid 19, and I went to spend the night at my grandparents house, like, maybe a few months after, yeah, I don't remember. It's after. What happened?
Scott Benner 5:42
But you were trying to give old people covid. Is that what was going on?
Devon 5:46
No, no, it was after. It was after. Oh, okay, it was closer to a
Tammy 5:48
year after. It had been it had been quite a while. Kevin, I'm gonna stop
Scott Benner 5:51
you for a second, because I have a thought in my head and I have to get it out. Tammy, why did I agree to have you back on what happened? Do you remember? Did you email me?
Tammy 6:00
Yeah, I did, because when we talked before, I was at the very beginning of some thyroid stuff, and we briefly talked about that, because that became a thing within the past couple of months before we talked and you had asked about other autoimmune in the family and stuff, and I mentioned that my older son has hypothyroidism, and I was starting to look into that for myself, because I was dealing with a lot of symptoms and stuff. So at that point, nothing really had come of it. Yet, I had seen a bunch of, you know, I'd asked to see an endo, even though my primary only referred me to ENT and, you know, it was a whole thing. But at that point, I was waiting to do more blood work to see if it was if my numbers were still trending in the same direction that they had been. But since then, turned out it was cancer. I had half my thyroid removed, and I'm, I'm all good now. So I was, I felt like I wanted to tell you the second half of that story, since you only got the first half, because it's 100% because of the podcast that I was able to oh, this
Scott Benner 7:01
is the thing where I'm the good guy. Okay, yes, it is. So if you were always good with those, but you just said cancer. So I feel so bad following up like this. But then why the hell are we talking to Devon?
Tammy 7:14
He was really mad at me that I didn't let him come on the first time.
Scott Benner 7:19
Problem not mine.
Tammy 7:22
No, he wanted to talk to you before. So I thought, why not? You know, she said some cash over if you want to be on a little short story, and then he can talk. But I think it's cool when kids come on the podcast and they talk about their experience, and
Scott Benner 7:35
so you're, you're producing that, is that what you're saying? You're making some production decisions. Yes, yes. Okay, so, so here's
Tammy 7:43
what I know. What I want to do is thank Devin for being diagnosed, which sounds ridiculous.
Scott Benner 7:48
Oh, no. Way to make me sound like an toll. Tommy, great, good job.
Tammy 7:53
No, not at all, not at all. If he wasn't diagnosed, I I'd be, I'd still be full of cancer right now. I mean, it sounds absolutely ridiculous, but I honestly, honestly believe that's the truth.
Scott Benner 8:05
Okay, so we'll find out a little bit. See. Now you made me I'm like, why is this kid on my podcast? And no offense, Devin. If you hear the noisy with the microphone, that's Devin. I know it is. He's making me insane. Stop touching that microphone, Devin. I will come to Chicago and smack you in the head. Whatever that noise is, it has to stop. Okay, the last time I was in Chicago, Devin it was to bring my mom, who just beat cancer, to live with my brother. Yeah. So stop touching that microphone, please.
Tammy 8:32
If that's what you're doing, he's basically saying he'll come find you.
Scott Benner 8:35
There's that noise. What is that? If I don't know what that noise is, this I have to, I'm gonna, I can't,
Devon 8:41
I don't I don't know what. I'm not touching the
Scott Benner 8:44
microphone. All right, put your hands up in there. Don't move. I'm just kidding. You don't have to do that. I just wanted
Tammy 8:51
to see. Are you sure it's coming from him? Do I need to lock myself in a tiny closet or something?
Scott Benner 8:55
I don't know you. You were a problem earlier, but it feels like it's Devin. But now maybe step up. My hands down. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, Simon. Simon says, Put your hands down.
Tammy 9:05
Maybe he's been the problem this whole time and you were just blaming me.
Scott Benner 9:09
I wonder if I could play Simon Says, on a podcast wouldn't work. Okay, so Devin, I want to finish hearing about you getting diabetes. Then we're gonna jump over to your mom, and then we will come back and chat with you. So tell me what you remember the lead up being like, and you know, How'd you figure out? Like, I'm sorry, when we last left you, you were trying to kill old people with covid. Then what happened?
Devon 9:28
Yeah, so I didn't have covid at the time, but later, I went over to my grandparents house, and they had brought something up to my mom. I don't remember exactly what it was, so then she brought me to the doctor's office. They just did a bunch of tests, and then had to go to the hospital.
Scott Benner 9:47
Obviously, Kevin, are you telling me the story here is that your grandparents said a thing that you don't recall, and then you went to a hospital to take a test you don't recall, and then you had
Speaker 1 9:56
diabetes. Yep.
Devon 9:58
Awesome. That's exactly what I. Saying,
Scott Benner 10:00
Devin, do you listen to good storytelling? Do you listen to any podcast, Devin, besides yours? No, you do listen to mine? Yeah. Oh, well, then never mind. You're awesome. Okay, so are you? Do you spend days in the hospital? Or how does it work out?
Devon 10:15
I ended up spending like three days in the hospital. Okay, before they released me.
Scott Benner 10:21
Do you recall how the entire process made you feel like internally? I know it's weird to ask a 13 year old maybe to talk about their feelings. I don't know if you think about your feelings a
Devon 10:31
lot, but I was just
Scott Benner 10:33
scared, I guess, yeah, because can you put more words to it? Scared? Because I
Devon 10:39
was scared, because it was something like, I knew diabetes had assisted. I just didn't know what it was. And like, as they started teaching me, I was like, I could die from this.
Scott Benner 10:51
That's one of the things that occurred to you. Yeah, yeah. How did they tell you that
Devon 10:56
they said something about, they're constantly talking about me having a high blood sugar, because there I was, like, in the 350s I believe. And they said that, like, a bunch of bad, like bad stuff, like organ failure could happen if I was constantly higher.
Scott Benner 11:14
I'm sorry, Tammy, they led with, you're gonna have organ failure if you have high blood sugars with your 12 year old.
Tammy 11:19
No, no. I feel like that was in there somewhere. The way they came to us telling us what was going on was, like, the pediatrician was great in the office. We obviously, we've been seeing her his entire life. And she said, you know, he's, he's got diabetes, you're gonna have to go to the hospital. And we're like, what? Why do you have to go the hospital? And she's like, oh, yeah, you'll be there a couple days. And I said, What? Like, you know, we have no knowledge at this point of how these things happen and how it gets diagnosed and what the process is, but it was very vague, though. After we got to the hospital, everybody kept saying diabetes, but they kept saying we're running more tests. We're running more tests because we don't know if it's type one or type two. And I'm like, how do you not know that? And they're like, Oh, we're waiting for more test results to determine that. Of course, at the time, it didn't make any sense to me, and it really doesn't make any sense to me now. But, yeah, there was, you know, some talk about long term effects, and I feel like that was completely unnecessary, knowing what I know
Scott Benner 12:10
now, in the pediatrician's office. No, that was at the hospital. Pediatrician was great. What a bummer the hospital is. Yeah, Devin, what's a brat? A What a brat? It's food, right? Do you know what it is? A brat works? Yeah. What is it?
Devon 12:27
Describe it? To me, it's a guy like a sausage and like a hot dog combined,
Scott Benner 12:32
a sausage and a hot dog combined. Is there a need for that? Do you think? Like, have you ever had a sausage? It's good, yeah. Have you had a hot dog? Yeah? And you've had a sausage, yeah? And I put them together and I get a bra, totally, all right, do you put something on it? I got an onion or something, or
Devon 12:54
no, most of the time I just maybe put a little bit of mustard on
Scott Benner 12:57
it. Okay? And you get and when you say, do you say brought like that, or do you how do you say it? Oh, it's a bra. Brought, yeah, like, rot, like that, like that, like, all stretched out and weird. I can hear my brother, my brother, who grew up in Philly and now lives in that wasteland where you guys are. I said, What are you doing today? Is how we're gonna put some brats on the grill. I'm like, are you doing like, somehow, we speak. Brought my God, just eat a hot dog. You know what I mean?
Tammy 13:25
I love I love that you're so focused on our voices and ours.
Devon 13:31
My voice is ridiculous. There's only one way to eat a hot dog, and that's Chicago style. What does that mean? My mom can explain it to you. She worked at something
Scott Benner 13:40
your mom worked at Dave and Busters.
Tammy 13:42
No, I worked. I worked at an a and w restaurant. We had Chicago style hot dogs, and I've never forgotten, it's mustard, onion, relish, pickles, peppers, tomatoes and celery salt.
Scott Benner 13:52
Oh, my God, that sounds like horrible. It does. Mustard goes on a hot dog. Yellow, you're done. That's it. It's a hot dog. No, no, no. Must be Chicago style. That's ridiculous. Also, your pizza is garbage, but that's neither here nor there. No pizza is amazing. Devin Listen, have you been able to Bolus for one of those 19 inch deep dough bowls with the cheese on top yet? Or have you worked that
Devon 14:17
out? I have. It didn't work out well, didn't work out.
Tammy 14:23
Well, there's a walk afterwards.
Devon 14:25
I was up at 300 for the next two days.
Scott Benner 14:29
Get your mom's like, don't let people think that. Stop being Don't be sarcastic with the man
Devon 14:35
exaggerating. I found the, uh, which episode it was for the last time,
Scott Benner 14:41
Devin, I asked you not to do that,
Tammy 14:45
he doesn't listen very well.
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Devon 17:24
It's just lots of medical choice, choices over and over again, like maybe 100 times a day. There's just so much to it, so much could go wrong if you do a little bit, like, just a little bit off of what you're supposed to be doing,
Scott Benner 17:43
feel like you're under a lot of pressure. Or, No, yeah, it is. Has that changed how you're existing? Like, did you used to be more I was gonna say laissez faire, but I don't believe that that's a term that I should be using, or that you would know, did you used to be more casual or, and you're not now, or, or vice versa. Has it changed anything about your personality?
Devon 18:02
Yeah, kind of because before I was diagnosed, this is gonna sound weird, because I'm still immature, but I was insanely immature. But obviously, in the one year, one and a half years it's been I've changed a lot, really, how, because I have to deal with diabetes, that there's a lot of things that I need to know that the average person would not know, and there's just a lot to remember.
Scott Benner 18:29
And don't let me put words in your mouth, but let me ask you a question. Okay, do you feel like you see the world differently than you used to? Yes, 100% how so? Devin, let me tell you a secret about you. I think you know what you mean. I don't think you're finding the words to say it. So I'm going to lead you around a little bit in our conversation. I hope you don't mind, yeah, how has your interaction with the world changed?
Devon 18:51
It's not like, really like, completely different trying to think of the words. I just can't.
Scott Benner 18:57
I know the words are hard. I don't want to lead you too much, but I think it's in there, and I want to find it okay. All right. Do unimportant things seem unimportant now that seemed important before. Do people get upset about stuff and you think, like, why is this a problem? Do you now have, like, a different perspective about life? Is what I'm asking. Yeah, a little bit how, like, just give me one situation where one of your dumb friends did something and you realized I don't feel the same way about this that I used to.
Devon 19:31
I think they got like, some random like, sickness or something or cold, and they're, like, constantly complaining about it. I'm like, That's really just nothing, that's it. And I used to think, like having a cold or something gave us a lot,
Scott Benner 19:49
yeah, if somebody granted you a wish, by the way, I bought lottery tickets last night, I could be a billionaire right now, Devin and if I am, this is for sure, the last buy. Podcast episode I've ever made my entire Well, actually, that's not true. I'd keep making the podcast. Would I a billion dollars, I don't know, a billion dollars like I would make you, Devin, how would you make me? I could. I could send, like a hit squad to your house and pay them in, like out of petty cash. You know what I mean.
Tammy 20:18
So I'm sorry when you make him blow his nose first. Oh, my dev, blow
Scott Benner 20:22
nose for your mother, for God's sakes, do you have a tissue in the room? You call them Kleenex.
Devon 20:30
That wasn't stifling or anything.
Scott Benner 20:32
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Devon 22:11
I don't like really worry about it. It's just I understand a lot more now.
Scott Benner 22:16
Okay, do you wish you didn't understand or do you like that? You know, it's
Devon 22:20
kind of both because, like, it's hard to know it and it's hard to remember, but also it's just a good thing to just know
Scott Benner 22:32
what's the thing that around your diabetes that you never remember, that your mom's constantly bugging you about, let's see pre bull sink, pre ball sink. Yeah, that's the one. That's the tough one. No, I don't, I
Tammy 22:45
don't know about that. He knows to do it. He understands how to figure out what kind of time frame like. He knows all of these things.
Scott Benner 22:52
He just doesn't do it. Yeah? No, he does at my dad's house. I don't, yeah. Tell me that, yeah. Makes me feel like, makes me feel like, I know why there's a dad's house at a mom's house, but
Tammy 23:07
because he ate his Sour Patch Kids after he was diagnosed. Remember, that's what, that's one thing we talked about
Scott Benner 23:12
that was your dad. That's awesome. Yeah, I remember that. Wow. I remembered something game
Devon 23:20
me and like. It's also because the only time I Pre-Bolus, yeah, at my dad's house is if I'm at 271, like I am right now,
Scott Benner 23:28
why do you not Pre-Bolus at your dad's house? Well,
Devon 23:32
most of the time I just don't have enough time to do that, because in the morning I'm pretty pressed to just do as much things as I can is
Scott Benner 23:42
your dad not helping you as much with other stuff so you don't have as much time?
Devon 23:46
No, it's just because, with school and everything, I have, like, maybe half an hour to get things done.
Scott Benner 23:53
How was that different when you're with your mom? Well, when I'm with my
Devon 23:56
mom, that she helps out with, like, she like, makes my breakfast and stuff.
Scott Benner 24:02
Your dad's like, if you want to eat the foods in the kitchen,
Devon 24:04
yeah, he he comes down like, I ring the door while he comes downstairs, opens the door, then he goes back upstairs.
Scott Benner 24:11
Yeah, that's the attitude that got him out of your mom's house. I don't know if you noticed that or not, so sure. He's lovely, by the way. Okay, all right. When I said, what's different at your dad's house, Tommy was like, please don't say the strippers are hiding my phone. Please don't say something weird like that. Okay, so is it hard going back and forth between different parents house with the diabetes
Devon 24:32
sometimes? Yeah?
Scott Benner 24:36
Because, like, how? So
Devon 24:38
if I'm like, going somewhere where both my parents are gonna be there. Then, like, which, like, bag with all my stuff I have it? Which one should I take? Like, should I take one the one at my dad's house, because, like, I'm there and he's gonna be taking me there and stuff that can happen on the way. Or should I just leave that one there and have my mom bring. The other one, which has more stuff in it. Yeah, Hey,
Scott Benner 25:04
real quick. This is for the editor. About 40 seconds ago, I cracked my toe and it was really loud. If it if the microphone picked it up, can you please leave it in because I was so impressed with how loud it was. This is not for you, Devin. It's for the editor, Rob. You know, Rob,
Devon 25:17
I don't know Rob. Rob would
Tammy 25:19
do it's a little bit for me too, because everything on me cracks, and there's always somebody that says, what was that?
Scott Benner 25:24
I just I can't believe how audible that was. Rob went to a diabetes event recently. He was a local famous for being the editor of the Juicebox podcast. That crazy. Oh yeah, yeah, Devin, you will not be famous from this. I'm sorry. Is that a thing kids think about, like when you think about want to do when you grow up, is one of the things you're like, maybe I could be an influencer.
Devon 25:46
I never really wanted to be an influencer or anything. What would you like to do? Well, ideally, I'd like to play a professional sport, but I would also want to get get an engineering degree, just in case, an
Scott Benner 25:59
engineer who plays football and has a model wife. Is that what you're looking for?
Devon 26:03
Oh, yeah, yeah, that sounds perfect. Like a Bugatti. Oh, no, not. Not a Bugatti,
Scott Benner 26:07
no, what do you Oh, you're in Chicago. What do you want? You want a big pickup truck. What are you looking for? No, I want a Lamborghini. Where are you gonna drive that there? I don't know. Go very fast from one traffic light to the next one, and for
Tammy 26:20
only about three months out of the year, because they're because the rest of the year is cold and snowy.
Scott Benner 26:24
Yeah, terrible. Devin. What's it like to your entire life the football team that you cheer for sucks? What does that feel like
Devon 26:32
they're not gonna suck this season? Hold on, boy, did
Scott Benner 26:36
they keep that Caleb Williams, boy, or they ship him off? No, they kept he's he's just Devin. He's struggling because he's not good. Stop, stop. Listen, I'm gonna give you the best advice anyone's ever gonna give you, when they don't look good, they're not good. When they're winning, they're good winning. You know how you win in the NFL? You spend a lot of money to buy players. You don't see that happening. You're not winning. Okay? And there's two teams in the league that always spend a ton of money and always get the wrong
Devon 27:10
people. You're cheering for your tush. Push.
Scott Benner 27:14
Easy. Easy, my friend, easy, won the Super Bowl, blew out the chiefs. Okay, listen, I'm happy. I'm happy they won over the chief. Of course, everyone's happy about that. There's three people that like the chiefs. They all live in Kansas City.
Devon 27:29
That's Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey, and the owner of the chiefs.
Scott Benner 27:33
This, Taylor Swift is going to make me like her if she keeps being human on these podcasts. I don't want to talk about football, Devin, because it sounds like you're going to be pejorative about my beloved Philadelphia Eagles. This is the chance I get to tell you that in seven days, I'm going to meet I'm going to the eagle stadium, and I'm going to get to meet Brandon Graham. He's the reason, I believe, why we won the first Super Bowl that we won. Wait, who? It's not important. He's a linebacker. I don't know you were probably eight when this happened, but the first time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I 100% sure Tom Brady was about to drive down the field and just beat us, and Brandon Graham, like came in and just hit him and knocked the ball out. And that was it. My life had meaning. Again. My brother has an event he's going to. He had a plus one. He invited me to it. I'm going to get to see the trophy, the Super Bowl trophy, and meet Brandon Graham. And even though I'm 54 years old, I'm going to get him to sign his rookie card for me. That's amazing, yeah, because I feel like he is the reason why we won the Super Bowl. There's a statue outside of Nick Foles and the coach, the coach, by the way, what a Lud this guy wins the Super Bowl after being a coach for a few years, Devin, right? And you know what he does in the off season? He writes a book about how to be a winner. And I was like, I could have coached that team then. He's never been a winner since then. And now I got to look at it, yeah. Now there's a statue of him outside of the stadium, but it should have been Brandon Graham, is all I'm saying. This is not the point Devin The point is that the bears are terrible.
Devon 29:05
They're not they're gonna be good. This season. They went undefeated. They beat the chief.
Scott Benner 29:09
You'd be better off if you got the Black Hawks spikes and tried to teach them to play football. Do you understand what
Tammy 29:16
I'm saying? He's a true Bears fan, let's be honest. Yeah. He's endlessly optimistic for no reason. The bears
Scott Benner 29:23
were listened to bears the last time the bears were awesome. We took your defensive coordinator in the 80s, and you haven't been good since then. I'm sorry about that. You know about Jim McMahon and the refrigerator, Perry and all these
Devon 29:34
people? No, because I'm not 5000 years old. Devin.
Scott Benner 29:38
That's harsh man. They used to put a giant defensive tackle in at running back, and he would just wander forward and fall into the end zone, and then you made fun of me when my quarterback takes the ball into the end zone, you used to have to bring in a defensive lineman to go that one last yard. Why don't you look it up Devin before you cast aspersions? Okay, I'm gonna put the Super Bowl. Shuffle and repeat. Oh, my God, that was horrible. Oh, it was the best thing ever. The video was amazing. So Devin, it sounds like your mom thinks you saved your life. Are you the oldest son? No, no. Who you have a brother
Devon 30:14
that's older. Yeah, he's turning 16 this year. This thyroid
Scott Benner 30:18
thing really re balances the scales. Then what you don't realize is that women love their firstborn son more than their other children, and you just jumped ahead of him. So good for you. Congratulations, Tammy, yes. Tell him what happens. I don't know what happens to you girls. You make a baby. It comes out. The first one's a boy, and then that's it. Then that's Jesus, right?
Tammy 30:44
No, I'm not saying that's not a thing. I'm I'm saying that's not a thing here.
Devon 30:52
So who's your favorite
Tammy 30:53
thing? No,
Scott Benner 30:55
no, let's dig in for a second. Which one of your children is your favorite? We need
Devon 30:59
this on recording. How many kids
Scott Benner 31:00
do you have? I
Tammy 31:01
have two. The two boys, seven is almost 14, and the other
Scott Benner 31:05
ones, 16, one of them you like a little better than the other one.
Tammy 31:09
Which one is it? No, you know, and it's, it's, I'm really not gonna pick one, because it's not a thing. But this is something I thought about. It was relatively recent. Somebody said the same thing, and they asked me, like, there's got, you got to have one that you like better than the other. And I legitimately thought about that, and it became in my head, like apples and oranges, there's a lot of good things about this one, and then there's a lot of good things about this one, and they're very different things. And there's things that are not so good with this one and not so good with that one. And again, they're very different things, yeah, so it's, it's hard to compare Devin and I have a lot more in common as far as the things that we like. We're both sports people. So it's like, okay, well, you know, like he and I could do more things together. But then the other one, there's, you know, those other things that he and I, there's connections that he and I have that are different than what I have with Devon. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's not, not a in even comparison? And I don't think it ever can be. And I, when I was thinking about this, I started thinking about my dogs that I've had over the years. Because everybody says that when you lose a dog, you know, this one that doesn't compare to that one,
Scott Benner 32:13
Devin, get ready to find out that she likes the dogs better than you and your brother. Hold on.
Tammy 32:19
They already know. But that's, you know, I started to think about that, and I think that's easier for people to understand. If you don't have kids, but you've had dogs, I think it's easier to understand it that way, like you get a new dog, and, no, it's not replacing the dog. It's that you lost. It's and it's not that they're better or worse, it's they're different. That's really what it comes down to, is they're different. You're not going to love anything more or anything less. You're just going to love it differently.
Scott Benner 32:47
Are you saying to me that if you lost Devin, like he just disappeared at the mall, I'd go get a new one, go get another kid, and eventually you would love that one too. I would do another type one. Yeah, you're completely replaceable. Devin, is what I heard. No, Tammy, listen, be serious. I have two kids. I completely understand. I think every parent in the world would tell you the same thing, like, I really don't have a favorite child, and there are obviously things about one that are different than the other. But you know, my kids tease us all the time, like, which one of us you like better. There really is no answer, right? Like, there just really isn't that's all you got. Dev, and I was just saying that
Tammy 33:27
you asked me that, when somebody just asked me that, like last week, and I legitimately thought about it, like, how do people choose this? Do people actually have a favorite? Because I'm like, I don't know. It's like, I want to make a list and see which list is longer if I had to choose.
Scott Benner 33:41
Not that odd, though, because everybody who listens I have a listening device in your phone so I can hear everything that's happening in your house. That's right, Devin, I know everything now. One person who listens to schizophrenic is definitely going to think I'm listening to them, but I'm not listening to you. I promise.
Tammy 33:58
I've at a conference I was at for work with there was a workshop that was teaching you what it's like to be schizophrenic. And so you had to wear headphones that were constantly people talking like in in each ear, different people talking like over each other. And you were given this list of tasks to complete and trying to be able to focus on what you were supposed to be doing. It was simple. Things like find this object in this room. And so you would have to go into this room and look for this object all the while you've got these earphones. And then people are talking and screaming and yelling and making noises and stuff like that. And it
Scott Benner 34:34
was very interesting. Oh my gosh, that's horrifying, is that? And they they made you do that at the a and w restaurant.
Tammy 34:41
Don't currently work for a and w I was
Scott Benner 34:44
just kidding. I realized all that. All right, Devin, is it fun busting your mom's balls? It is, right? Yeah, you do it. Do you guys do it at home? Oh, yeah, Tommy, be serious, two boys and you it's hard, right? Yeah. Yeah, do you wish there was a girl there to like,
Tammy 35:02
No, I don't. Not even a little bit. I'm not gonna lie, I'm happy with what I have. But, you know, we give it to each other, though it's not, it's definitely not a one way street.
Scott Benner 35:12
Yeah, I hear you, Devin, what do you think is gonna be the most difficult part of the next couple of years of diabetes? What is it that you are worried that you're not going to be able to figure out? What is it that you feel like is going well,
Devon 35:27
honestly, I'm not sure what the most difficult part about well, there's
Scott Benner 35:31
your brother. I heard him bark. Oh, that's why you don't need another girl. She's already got the dog, so you're not there's nothing you're worried about. What is it that give me the rest of it, then, how do you think this is gonna she's like, they love me the most. I knew it. Dog is celebrating. It's so it's mocking, Devin, it's barking. She hates you, Devin, your mom loves you. You know that, right? No, she doesn't. Oh, Devin, why do you say that? Hold on, forget about your diabetes. Why did you say that?
Devon 36:08
Hold on, forget about that. Do you want to know what episode it was where my mom was in lab? Go ahead.
Scott Benner 36:13
Go ahead. Dev, what do you? Seems like you have something to say. Go ahead, buddy. Why? What did she do in that episode that makes you want to bring it up so people can go here. I just want to promote it, trying to get her Instagram up. What are you doing?
Devon 36:30
Yeah, it's number 1480 ergo, you probably have hypothyroidism.
Scott Benner 36:37
Yes. Did I say that during the
Tammy 36:42
episode? I say that too. Sometimes
Scott Benner 36:44
somebody called me pompous online recently, maybe they heard me say, ergo, that lady was so mad at me. Oh, my God. Where was I think it was in the Facebook group. And somebody was just being very unkind. And I, like, kind of stopped, and I was like, hey, like, you know, make your point. But like, try to be, like, nice about it. If you can, like, that'd be awesome. Like, I think you're making a good point here. You didn't have to really be so, you know. And then they kind of came, like,
Tammy 37:12
You've been saying that in the group quite a bit more lately than you were before,
Scott Benner 37:17
Tammy, that's your imagination. This the group runs exactly the way it always runs. She, she said something back and like, about it being my opinion. And I was like, No, hold on. I took it out to like, 17 different AIs. And I was like, read this and tell me how it reads to you. And every one of them was like, No, is she being so I just, I think, I said to it, I was like, both to keep me out of it. Like, can you give me an example of how this response could have gotten the point across, but been kinder? And then I, like, copied it, and I said, Hey, look, I asked AI, like, This isn't me. And here's what it said. She called me pompous. She yelled at me. Made, made a bunch of unpleasant words, you know the curses.
Tammy 37:58
He called you pompous because you used AI,
Scott Benner 38:01
no, I think she called me pompous for correcting her. How dare you? Yeah, it's okay. Then she was very mean to me. Devon, she used a lot of bad words. No human reaction. Unfortunately, Devin, what's the worst curse you can think of? It's okay if you say it in front of your mom right now, go ahead. I don't think I should say that. Oh, good boy. Good job, Devin. Which one do you think he was thinking of?
Tammy 38:20
Tommy? Like I like you don't think when I'm not around.
Scott Benner 38:24
Devon, do you curse a lot when your mom's not around?
Tammy 38:30
It's okay. You can say, you can say you do, because I get to when I was a kid.
Scott Benner 38:35
Oh my gosh. And your favorite curse, you know what it is? You don't. You have to tell me, but you have like, a go to No, no, no, no kidding, huh? I don't know what my favorite one is. As I get older, I curse less. It's disappointing, honestly,
Tammy 38:52
when you're doing it wrong,
Scott Benner 38:54
yeah, you think I'm breaking myself all right, Devin, let's find out what you did for your mom here. So because you have type one diabetes. Good finish. That thought Tommy, because Devin has type one. You Where does the journey start? How does it end? With you figuring out about your
Tammy 39:08
thyroid, because he is type one. I found the podcast, and the podcast helped me learn a little bit more about autoimmune and hypothyroidism and and those kinds of things. Again, my son, my older son, has hypothyroidism, but we found it so early, it's been perfectly controlled, so learning anything about it wasn't necessary. Honestly, it sounds ridiculous, but he I think it was four, and we're doing blood we were doing blood work for allergy reasons, and that came up and somewhere, you know. So, I mean, you've talked about, you know, hypothyroidism, and you know, if you have symptoms, and even if your numbers are normal, there's something else wrong, obviously, push, you know, advocate, you know, figure out what's going on if you're not feeling well. And that's common sense, obviously. But I remembered something when my son was diagnosed that they said, because he had so many hours. Issues. They said, Well, now that we found this thyroid situation, once we get that controlled, his allergy symptoms might get better. That's they're linked in some way. And it dawned on me that my allergy symptoms had gotten worse in the previous year, year and a half, maybe. And I thought, Oh, crap, maybe that's what's going on. Started looking up what, you know, the difficult symptoms are, and stuff like that. And I was like, Okay, this sounds like me. So I already had blood work in, like, ordered, and I thought, I'm gonna go get this done. I'm gonna see what it is. And I did that, and it was higher than it had ever been. I looked back at trends, because I'm like, I don't know what a 3.5 means overall. I can see that it's within normal range, but I look back at trends, and I was always around a two, and this was like, what just happened? Why is it going up? That started me thinking, Okay, well, that that matches up with what seems like, what's going on with me as far as symptoms, and there's, there's something not right here. And my doctor, of course, messaged me and said, everything's normal. And I said, Well, I'm not feeling I messaged back and I said, I'm not feeling well. I feel like there's something going on here. I'd like to explore what my options are. And so I got an appointment with him, went in, and he felt around on my neck and said it felt a little enlarged. So he sent me to ultrasound. Ultrasound came back showing some nodules and things like that, and but none of them were large enough to warrant a biopsy, and so they referred me to ENT, just to have them take a look and see what they think. And I said, Well, I why ENT and not Endo? At this point, I'm convinced that I have hypothyroidism, and that's who I want to go see, right? And so I said, I can you send a referral for that as well? I'm happy to see Ent. I already had one. You know, I've established with this doctor for many years, so I'm happy to go see him and get all of the information, see what everybody thinks at this point. I want as much information as possible, and I want as much help as possible, because I'm not feeling well. Did give me the referral to endo as well. I managed to squeeze in with her relatively quickly, within a couple of weeks. And she said, I don't like the way that one looks. I want you to get it biopsied. And she said, I realize it's not big enough, you know, because they have that threshold. And I said, Okay, saw ENT shortly thereafter, and he said, I wouldn't have sent you to biopsy. I would have just had you go back for another ultrasound in six months. In six months and see where you're at. But he's like, buddy, you know, it doesn't hurt to do it if you want peace of mind, 90% of the time, this stuff isn't cancer, but if you know, if you want to go and do it, go do it. Well, it took three months to even get in to get the biopsy done, and in the meantime, they were going to my endo said she wanted to do more blood work to see if the numbers were continuing the way that they were going. I never got a chance to do that, because I had had a ear infection and a sinus infection and all this other stuff. And she said, hold off until you're done with medication and you're done with the illness, because that can really throw off the numbers. It's not going to be accurate as far as what's really happening. So I never got to do that. But shortly after I was sick is when I went and got the biopsy done. That was a Tuesday. On Thursday, they called the doctor, called me, and I knew, knew immediately when it was her on the phone and not a nurse, and she said, yeah, it's cancer. We're going to go in, we're going to take the whole thing out. We're going to just go hard in the paint with this and and do all of this. And I was like, okay, that's terrifying, but all right. So I saw the surgeon the next day, actually, and she calmed me down quite a bit. She said this, if I had to pick a cancer to give myself, this is the one I'd want. So I was like, Okay, that makes me feel a little bit better. And three weeks later, I had surgery that she ended up only taking out half that everything looked good. Said the nodules that they removed, you know, the whatever part actually had cancer, she said it was a lot smaller than they actually thought it was in the first place. And it's great that we caught it this early. And you know all of those things that they tell you and and that's pretty much where we're at. I went for an ultrasound a couple months later, just for the other half. Other Half still looks good. Everything's all good at this point. Well, can I
Scott Benner 43:59
ask Devin, real quick, I'm going to stop you for a second. Devon, what's it like to hear your mom? To hear your mom talk about being sick? What do you mean? I mean, does it make you worried? Does it make you feel compassionate for her? Did you just worry that, oh, my god, I'd have to live with my dad if she died, and make my own breakfast every day? Or like, like, what? What comes into your head exactly that does sound like what a 13 year
Devon 44:19
old would say, yeah. I mean, that's
Scott Benner 44:20
what I would think of like, oh my god, that guy's not going to make gonna make me breakfast. This lady's gonna be gone. I'm gonna be eating cereal for the rest of my goddamn life. Good. What do you
Devon 44:27
got? So, like, in the moment when, uh, like, she like, I'm pretty sure, yeah, she texted me saying that she had, can't like me and my, no, I didn't or something. I don't know, I don't remember, that was like, five years ago.
Scott Benner 44:41
This is making me laugh. This is making me laugh because I have two brothers, and I just think back now and think my mom must have just been every day she must have been. I'm like, I can't believe I'm stuck in the house with these idiots.
Tammy 44:53
First of all, this was eight months ago, Devin.
Scott Benner 44:56
I'm gonna say, Devin, I'm gonna say a couple of things. If your mom. Texted you, hey, I have cancer, lol, or whatever. I gotta think the state would come and take you from her. So I don't think she did that. I think she's smarter than that. Um, so you don't really so what I'm learning is is you don't have a real recollection of this, like it didn't make you feel
Devon 45:15
a certain way. Oh, no, my memory is more trash than a dumpster.
Scott Benner 45:19
Okay, how about now, as she's talking about it, were you even listening to her, or were you like, looking at, like,
Devon 45:23
your phone? I mean, I was listening.
Scott Benner 45:27
When you listen to the pod, you listen to the podcast, Devin, yeah, I do. Do you feel more connected to the people who you're listening to than you do to your own mom when you're listening to her talk
Devon 45:37
honestly? Yeah. Sometimes. Why do you think that is? I know
Scott Benner 45:41
why it is. Devin, I'm wondering if you
Devon 45:43
know because they have diabetes, and she doesn't, and she's my mom. Yeah, she's
Scott Benner 45:47
your mom's the answer. People take their parents for granted. You know what I mean? It's not till you're much older that you think about it like you'll look back on this moment. One day, you'll be like, 25 or 30 or something. You'll be like, I was on a podcast when I was 13, and this guy asked me, How did I feel about my mom having cancer? And I was like, Yo, low. You know what I mean, baby, I think she texted me, or maybe she made smoke signals. I don't remember how she told us anymore. And you're gonna think like, Oh, what a little dick I was, but you're not, you're just 13. And like,
Devon 46:16
I remember not Dan. I'm pretty sure she told us to come up to her room.
Scott Benner 46:22
Is that right?
Tammy 46:26
So interesting, good.
Devon 46:30
I'm pretty sure you said it not. This shouldn't be like something that like, if we should really be scared of worried about I'm pretty sure
Tammy 46:43
you're getting there.
Devon 46:46
Am I somewhat close?
Scott Benner 46:47
When you were standing there, were you like, Yo my game's on pause. Let's hurry up.
Tammy 46:52
Okay. Well, that was, that was your brother. He was he was annoying me. He was playing with the dog and not really paying attention to what I was saying. Stop messing with the dog for four seconds so I can say something.
Scott Benner 47:08
Tammy, do you think they don't care, or do you just think that it's a function of
Tammy 47:11
their age? No, no, they're it's not at all that they don't care, that they they care in their own separate ways. Devin had questions, my older son is kind of like internally, processes things more whereas Devin is more outspoken, and that is exactly what happened. I told him to come sit down, and I started with, I'm not worried about this, so you don't need to be worried about this. Okay, this is what's going on. And I by this point in time, I had processed it. Had been several days. I had processed everything. I'd spoken to the surgeon. We had a plan, we had a date, we had all of the information. I didn't want to talk to them about it until I had all of the information and and it processed it myself first. So I did lead with that, and he did. He did ask some questions. And one thing that always stands out for me is that I asked him, or I told him, I said, I might need your help. I might need you to help me laugh at this sometimes, because that's something that we did when he was diagnosed with type one. We laughed at it a lot so that it wouldn't kill us, you know, that kind of thing. And I said, I might need you to, you know, help me out here and there and and laugh at it. Yeah? And he did that. And I really appreciate that.
Scott Benner 48:17
That's awesome. Devin, can I give you some advice? Yeah, yeah, empathetically impact and listen to people when they're talking and genuinely be concerned about them and what they feel like. Or one day you'll have an apartment while some ladies living in your house too. Okay, okay, all right, yeah, you got to care about what people are saying. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Be connected.
Tammy 48:40
That's funny that you said that, because literally, yesterday, when we were on a we were on a walk, he said I was annoying him. And I said, if I'm not annoying you that I'm not doing it right.
Scott Benner 48:50
Why was she annoying, you Dev, and what was she doing? I'm pretty
Devon 48:53
sure it's because I said I wanted to join football, and she kept saying a bunch of like, oh, you can't do this or this. I want you to really think about it. And it's also partially because my blood sugar is at like, 321 so, oh, you're, are you having
Scott Benner 49:08
trouble with your blood sugars right now? Kinda, I'm at 250 what's going on? Tell me what you think's happening. I'm sick. Oh, you're not feeling well. No, that's why you were snotting earlier. Yeah. What kind of sickness Do you have? I don't know. Oh, just a cold, probably, yeah, and that's impacting your blood sugars. Now, what are you doing about that? What kind of pump you got? A pump, or are you MDI, yeah, I'm on the Omnipod. Okay, Omnipod five, or Omnipod dash. What's Omnipod dash? The old version. You're on five. Wait, what's 75 dash, though, it's
Tammy 49:44
the old version. It doesn't have the algorithm.
Scott Benner 49:46
Oh, so it's not keeping up with your illness right now, not really. Have you tried bolusing, yeah, yeah. Are you sure
Devon 49:57
during the process of you recording this, I've. Give myself two units insulin, very
Scott Benner 50:03
nice. While you're bolusing, it's probably taking away your basal, because it thinks you don't need the insulin you just gave yourself, right? Maybe, maybe, how about definitely.
Tammy 50:13
What did you do in order to stop that from happening? Devin, you know the answer to this, did you override?
Devon 50:20
Oh, wait. No, sorry, sorry. I meant I overrided three times and gave myself one unit every time.
Scott Benner 50:25
Okay, yeah. Can I suggest something? How long has he been on what they call the Omnipod five? How long you been using that?
Devon 50:32
It was only, like, a few months after I've been I was diagnosed, okay, Timmy,
Tammy 50:37
it's going on a year and a half that he's been using
Scott Benner 50:39
up. How does it normally work for him? How do you like the settings? It works really well.
Tammy 50:43
Okay, we've been very happy. What I'm thinking is I might have him change it before he goes to school today, because it'll learn from the last one that he needs more that might help with the illness
Scott Benner 50:53
and the high sugar. I was going to ask you, do you think his insulin needs have changed since he's on Omnipod five
Devon 51:01
meaning, yeah, I can answer that, and that's a definite yes, yes.
Scott Benner 51:04
So then the initial settings you use to set the Omnipod five up are probably like, if you switch into manual, they probably wouldn't
Devon 51:11
do well. I mean, I'm pretty sure the basal head for manual is higher than it's giving me right now. I'm not 100% sure about that though. Yeah, you have
Tammy 51:23
changed the settings in manual a few times to
Scott Benner 51:27
better reflect what's happening. Yeah, I would switch it over to manual for a couple of hours and see if you can't get your blood sugar to
Tammy 51:34
come down that way. Yeah, he's tried that before, not not this time around, but he's done that in the past.
Scott Benner 51:38
Does that work for you? Yeah? Sometimes it does Yeah, because then the basal stays on, and then your, your Bolus has a better chance of working, and then just kind of got to get out of it before you get
Devon 51:48
low. You know it, yeah, it says it, if I switch it to manual, give me point five an hour, and that seems great.
Scott Benner 51:55
So is point five an hour about, about what you think your basal is? Well, yeah, yeah. How much do you weigh? Devin 124, 124, what kind of football you want to what position you want to play in football?
Devon 52:12
Insanely skinny, so I'd probably have to do a wide receiver.
Scott Benner 52:16
Can you catch? Yeah, are you fast? Yeah, all right. Well, there you go. You're all set that. And Mom, you don't want to play football fast
Devon 52:24
enough that I don't have to sprint to in baseball to be a to be fast.
Tammy 52:28
So, oh, it just means anything he was, he's a catcher in baseball, and he was my number two hitter.
Scott Benner 52:34
So are you coaching the team? Tammy, I coach the baseball team. Yeah, nice. Your mom's the coach. How does that go over with the boys that okay, that's fine, yeah. Do they ever look at her creepy? You know what? I mean? No, they don't. Good, good. We don't want that. Okay, you catch huh? Yeah, yeah. Can you make the throw in a second easily? All right, you're skinny, but you're tall. Are you tall? Yeah, I'm five, I didn't know you're so tall. Five. Five. How tall do you think you'll be one day? Are your parents tall? No, they're holding you back. They're holding you back. Devin, your brother have any height?
Devon 53:13
Oh, definitely. No. He's like 410
Tammy 53:19
he is five foot. Thank you, point of contention here in the house.
Scott Benner 53:24
Thanks. Scott Devin, how are you gonna How you gonna play professional sports if you're 571 day? What's going on here?
Devon 53:31
I mean, I'm hoping I'm gonna get tall, because my my one my uncles, is tall, so,
Scott Benner 53:35
yeah, which one? How tall is he? Was he 511
Devon 53:40
I'm pretty sure he's like, what sits too. That's hot. Yeah, yeah, that's six, one or six,
Scott Benner 53:45
two. Which of these sports do you prefer the most? Dev and you like baseball or football better to play
Devon 53:51
baseball? Yeah, baseball
Tammy 53:54
is a good game. You haven't played football yet, other than I haven't. I really
Scott Benner 53:58
haven't. Yeah, wait till somebody hits you so hard that you can't breathe for a couple of seconds. That'll change your mind real fast. That happened to me in baseball. Catcher, oh, you got, you got jacked up at home.
Devon 54:09
I get, I get blown over all the time, but I keep blowing the ball so
Scott Benner 54:15
well, they still let them do that Tommy running. They can't even do that in the pros anymore. Yeah.
Tammy 54:19
Little leagues a little different depending on who the umph is. It's a different answer. So, well,
Scott Benner 54:23
you're 13, like, are you on a 5070, field now? Or you're not playing for, I don't know what that means. You're not on a little league field anymore, right? The field got bigger.
Tammy 54:33
Yeah, it's, it's, I think, one step down from
Scott Benner 54:37
major 6090, yeah. So, Devin, listen, when you're playing Little League, it's 4660 46 feet from the pitching rubber to home plate, 60 feet from home to first. And then there's a jump up, 50, 7050, to home plate, 70 to first. And then, usually, I don't know when kids like make the next transfer, but then it's 6096, Defeat the home 90 feet the first place. That's when you find out if people can play or
Devon 55:03
not. 6090, is the major league, right? Yeah, like
Scott Benner 55:08
your high school field or major league or something like that, yeah, yeah,
Devon 55:12
all these kids I think, um, I think the it's like 82 feet to each base.
Scott Benner 55:18
You made that number up. 5070, 6069,
Tammy 55:21
no, that's not 82
Devon 55:23
feet. I feel like it is. Are
Scott Benner 55:26
you counting your steps? Maybe you're taking 82 steps to go that far. Who knows? Definitely, no, because you're so short, your steps are small. You know what I
Devon 55:33
mean? I mean if it was my brother, yeah. Oh, my God, wait,
Scott Benner 55:37
Kevin, keep playing, because there's no more fun than when the big, strong kids get to the big field and find out, all they can do is fly out to right field. It's awesome. And they don't know how to play other than that, they just, they just used to hitting the ball, and it was like, it would go over people's heads, and now they're like, why isn't it happening anymore? Yeah, that's that's fun watching the slow kids try to run the bases on the Full Size field, and then they get see it come. They get back in the dugout, and you can see it on their face. Like, I don't think I can do this anymore. There are so many. I watched a kid. I'm not kidding you. I watched a kid in the outfield when the field got all the way bigger. I think the kids were like 1514, or 15 at that point, and a ball went up in the air, and the run to get to the ball was so far, and it was just so frustrating for him, like he couldn't track it, he couldn't get to it, like they got it took him way too long. And as he was walking off the field, I think he was in right field, he was walking down the first base line after the inning was over, and he got to the part of the fence where his dad was, and he looked at him, and he said, I'm not doing this anymore. And I never saw him again. After that, a kid had been playing baseball his whole life.
Devon 56:49
I mean, the few seasons before, like before I moved up to the bigger field, I was insanely slow.
Scott Benner 56:59
You're quicker now,
Tammy 57:02
he figured out how to not run flat footed.
Scott Benner 57:04
Oh, look at you. You're figuring it out. That's awesome. I'm just telling you this kid back then, I would have thought, like, that's crazy. He's like, one of the best kids on this team. And as soon as the field got bigger, he was overmatched. And he just was like, he literally looked this down. He's like, I'm done.
Tammy 57:17
And yeah, so strange. Yeah, it's def we've moved I think he started playing when he was nine. And I think we've been on three different sized fields, and it's always a challenge. Yeah, that really is the time I was
Devon 57:29
supposed to be, like the older group, like the older age we had to combine with the so it was like when I was what, I think, 11, yeah,
Tammy 57:41
it was when you were 12, because we were moving up to that size than that the following year. Oh, they combined 12 you and 14 you for a fall season because they couldn't get enough kids to sign up. So we moved to the bigger field, and you were going to be on that field the following summer anyway.
Scott Benner 57:56
I mean, I'm a little disappointed about something about your story. I didn't hear the part where I was really the hero. What happened there?
Tammy 58:05
Talking about baseball, talk about me again. How did that get left out? What happened? No, it didn't. It didn't get left out differently.
Scott Benner 58:14
Use more effusive words, podcast, yeah, it's not as good.
Tammy 58:18
Like I not found the podcast. Keep going. I mentioned the things that you talked about on the podcast that made me start thinking, and make me start wondering, and I started digging into things, and that's the reason. But I mean, I'm really thinking Devin because he was diagnosed. Now I
Scott Benner 58:32
didn't like how Devin jumped ahead of me in that story, and also, also the baseball thing was getting boring, so I had to pivot quickly. Just now, there's nothing.
Devon 58:43
There's one talked about the one time where a kid crashed out because my mom high fived him after the game.
Scott Benner 58:54
Your mom punched a kid. No, no, no. What happened?
Tammy 58:59
Or version? Devin,
Scott Benner 59:02
let me say something. Here. I want you to take this to heart. Okay, I like you. I hate the way you tell a story, and so I want you to like I think this should be a focus of the next I'm going to say 24 months of your life. Okay, I like you. I like you getting better at storytelling because I get you got a nice personality here, but I need it needs to come out a little quicker. You know I'm saying, Yeah, all right. So tell me the story I really focus on. Listen to me brevity. I want you to think short to the point, funny, accurate, honest. Tell me about your mom and the kid go. So after the game, stop you. Please don't start with so you make me want to punch you in the mouth. Okay, that's illegal. Go right to the story. Go try again. So don't My God, Kevin, you cannot say no. Why did you do that? No, no, no, no. Listen, focus. And start the sentence without saying so just
Devon 1:00:03
after, after a baseball game, we always line up at home played high five the other kids and say, good game. And there's this one kid who just walked by and pulled it back for me, like his hand out for me and my mom. He like, pulled away, and then my mom grabbed his arm and high fived him, and he started like yelling at her, and did not touch him, because he apparently he just doesn't like being touched by people he doesn't like.
Scott Benner 1:00:31
Is this story about how your mom assaulted a child? What is happening?
Devon 1:00:36
It's not as though were the cops called. No
Scott Benner 1:00:41
wait. Oh, what good? Oh, what
Devon 1:00:44
the one time where, no,
Scott Benner 1:00:46
no, don't talk to me. I'm talking to
Devon 1:00:48
you. Fight another coach.
Tammy 1:00:51
There's a lot of good stories. There's a lot people
Scott Benner 1:00:54
fist fighting. Almost, my God, the middle of the country is just, it's feral. You know what? I mean, I guess you have to be to live in that cold you know? I mean,
Tammy 1:01:03
that coach called one of my kids bush league, and then he called me bush league. No, he called. He called the the coach's kid, my assistant coach's kid. He called him Bush like, how old are they? No, he called. He called me bush league because I ran. That was later. He said, I'll meet you in the parking lot. And I'm like, what is happening here? These are 11 and 12 year old kids at this point.
Scott Benner 1:01:28
Like, what do we you were gonna have to fist fight a man because of an 11 year old baseball
Tammy 1:01:32
game this? He said this to my assistant coach, be
Scott Benner 1:01:36
over what I wasn't please. Please tell me over. What was this over?
Devon 1:01:39
Oh, so it's because he called me. And I'm pretty sure one of
Scott Benner 1:01:44
the if you say Bush again, Devin, I'm gonna, I am gonna come to Chicago and smack you. I just want you to say, okay, kid, yeah. But why, Devin? Why widely call you
Devon 1:01:53
that? He called. He called me that because so I was like, Have I was on third
Scott Benner 1:01:58
if you say so again, I'm gonna come to Chicago and smack you in the head. I cannot say. Why did he call you bush league?
Devon 1:02:05
I was on I was on third base. I was like, halfway to home when the catcher threw the ball back to the pitcher. I stole and
Tammy 1:02:15
got trick play. The answer is, trick play,
Scott Benner 1:02:17
yeah, Devin, let me say this. Did you run to home when the catcher threw the ball back to the pitcher? Yes, could you have just said that for me?
Tammy 1:02:29
Brevity, could have just said trick play. You
Scott Benner 1:02:32
could watch this. Devin, ask me what happened. Say, why did the guy call you bush league? Why did the guy call you bush league? I was halfway home, and when the catcher threw the ball back there, pitcher, I ran home. Oh, I understand it. See what I just did there. Cut out a lot of the extra words, okay, now, and I didn't say so or bush league, Devin, you're gonna be okay. I don't want you to worry all right, but we got some things to work on here. I know you're young, but I want a little more focus on this. And did you find it to be like, did you think you were doing something when you stole
Devon 1:03:07
home? No, because that's just part of the game. Do you steal
Scott Benner 1:03:11
signs? Devin, yeah, you do. Do you relay them to the batter?
Devon 1:03:16
Oh, not, not in that way. I like, there's this one team, they had a bunch of signs and that if I saw it, I would tell the pitcher to step off and get the runner out.
Scott Benner 1:03:29
Okay, all right. Well, you're much wrong with that. All right, okay, I'm good. Now, Tammy, after this happened, there's a grown man, ostensibly a father of another child, like somebody who's in charge of another human being who then looked at your by the way, wouldn't he wanted to fight you, because you're the coach, but I guess he's like, Well, I guess I can't hit a girl, so I'm gonna go with the other guy. And he said, he basically, I don't, I hate to sound like it's 1986 but he offers him out, tells him to come to the parking lot where we will later fight about this. Is that correct? Yes, and he was serious.
Tammy 1:04:03
He was dead serious. This guy had been a problem in the league for quite some time, and ended up leading to him not being allowed to coach anymore. But what the really obnoxious part is that my assistant coach is very soft spoken, very quiet, very nice guy. Whatever was going on got him fired up, and he actually walked out and started talking to him, not yelling, you know he but he was talking to him calmly, like, hey, maybe we don't need to do these types of things. These are kids. Let's, you know, we've got kids crying because of how you're yelling at them. And you know this isn't appropriate. And you know it takes, it takes a lot for him to get fired up. And he was
Scott Benner 1:04:36
pretty fired up. And did you cry? No, Devin, never cry while you're playing baseball, please? I mean, listen, you can cry, and there's nothing wrong with crying, but not at a baseball game. Hey, listen, Tammy, if they would have went out to the parking lot, who do you think would have won? A good question. It was the guy who's juiced up on Old Milwaukee and heroin. Is that the guy that would have
Tammy 1:04:56
been doing I think that might have been the way that it went, but I. Also know that we have on that team, we had several parents
Devon 1:05:05
that coached football and
Scott Benner 1:05:08
some other things. Make a general announcement. I want to make a general ask everybody listening. Please calm down. Everybody just calm down. Yeah, just relax.
Devon 1:05:17
Can we refer to the opposing coach as Bob? Why?
Scott Benner 1:05:22
Why? Why? Oh, God, you know what? I fucking hate myself for asking this. But why?
Devon 1:05:28
Devin, I don't know. Oh, Devon.
Scott Benner 1:05:33
Devon, listen, I can be in Chicago in about 14 hours. Okay, if you can meet me at a rest stop, I'm just gonna whop you in the head one time, then I'm gonna leave. Okay, and your mom, she doesn't want to get into my school. I'll find you. Don't you worry, kid, okay, oh, I'll tell him, yeah, your mom will give you up in three seconds. She likes a dog better than you. She's barely feeding you. What are you paying attention to that you don't understand this woman,
Devon 1:05:58
she's definitely not barely feeding me. I eat everything. All right?
Scott Benner 1:06:02
Well, I'm glad you're being fed. This is nice. I've had a nice time here. Now, listen, here's what I know, and I'm being serious, Devin, you seem like a nice kid. I'm excited for you and your pathway through life. I think it's going to be awesome. I think you're going to be an engineer who's married to a model and the first five seven quarterback in NFL history, okay? And I'll tell you one thing I know for sure, if you make it to the NFL at that height, the bears are going to draft you, because they are terrible at drafting quarterbacks. I'm super happy for your mom. Your mom's doing well and she's healthy. If this podcast had anything to do with her being well, that really is touching to me. I'm super happy. I hope you get over your illness more. I'd like to see you do a little more basal and and get that blood sugar down. You can get it down. You just need a little more insulin right now, and an A I D system might be getting in your way instead of helping you. So maybe moving to manual while your mom is helping you could be valuable. Also, I feel like you have not had to go to school today to make this podcast. Is that true? Yeah, for the first time, is it I have not been thanked yet? Why is there not been a thank Hey, Scott, I really appreciate you having me on this podcast. By the way, bamboozled. Do you know the word bamboozled? Devin? Let me look at something here for you. I'm looking at the setup for today. Says Tammy, and then it says, What are the themes you hope to cover, self advocacy, teenage type one issues, thyroid cancer, nowhere did I hear I'm gonna slip my little kid into this. Okay, you understand, but here you are, and I let you be here, and you don't have to go to school. I mean, I don't remember any of that. You think I'm paying attention. And so, Devin, oh, my God, tell you the same thing I told my neighbor yesterday. Okay, Devin, watch me tell this story about a door and make it interesting. I'm gonna teach you something, Devin, this is like a TED talk for you now.
Devon 1:07:59
Okay, well, first off, guys, the computer is dying.
Scott Benner 1:08:03
Gavin, you're gonna be okay. Hang in. Maybe the wrong charge. Evan, listen to me. My thing's only gonna take 30 seconds. I'm a pro. I'm outside working in my yard. Yesterday, my neighbor comes over to me, asked me to bring up his trash cans because he's going away on vacation. I said, no problem at all. And I said to him, Hey, I was driving past your house the other day with my wife. My wife says, Has Mike's door always been red? And I said, How should I know? And she goes, we've been living here for 20 some years. I said, I don't know what color the guy's doors and he looks at me weird. He goes, Scott, my door used to be blue. You made fun of me about it three years ago. And I was like, Mike, I don't remember that. And he goes, what? I was like? My guy was at the store today, my wife asked me to get deodorant for her. And I wanna be clear Devin that I've known my wife for 30 some years. I've been married for 29 years, that that woman believes that I know what deodorant she's using is insane. Okay? Like, all I know is that her deodorant is blue. I do not know which one she uses. I could not possibly tell you that I do not recall what color my neighbor's door is, even though I've apparently talked to him about it in the past. And why is that, Devin I don't know, but that's who I am. Okay, I'm not gonna remember stuff like that. What I explained to him was that's not what you want from me in this life. What you want from me is the talking that I'm good at remembering things, not so much. And do you see how that was fun, even though it's got nothing to do with anything. And if I told you that story, like disconnected from anything else, you'd be like, why is this guy telling me this? But somehow you're oddly compelled while I'm telling you. Do you hear that? Yes, this is what I want from you, Devin. This is where our storytelling needs to get at some point. And I'm not the best at it, but Devin, I'm much better at it than you are. Okay? And so I want you to get a lot older than I What does that have to do with anything? I was this
Tammy 1:09:48
chatty the fourth time you've told us we're old.
Scott Benner 1:09:51
I was this podcast, Devin, do not pick her with your mother while I'm yelling at you. I was this chatty when I was 13. Okay? I want you the dogs barking my. Dog just figured out too, what's going on. He's like, these are not feeding me what's happening. And Devin, don't curse in front of your mom. Okay, although I've cursed in front of you while your mom is here, but I saved her from cancer. So really, I can do
Tammy 1:10:15
it, yeah, I may. I make it a very like normal thing, so that they don't feel like it's not normal.
Scott Benner 1:10:24
All right, Devin, and here's the last thing I'm gonna tell you, anybody who wants to fight with somebody at a child's baseball game needs to go to therapy. You understand that there's something insanely wrong with them, okay, all right. And for those of you who have almost gotten to a fight at a baseball game and now you're feeling insulted by me. I wasn't talking about you. Okay, you're fine. Everything you do is awesome. Okay, Devin, when we're done here you go tell your mom you love her, give her a nice hug. Okay, that's not gonna No, I want that, and I don't want you making fun of your short brother. Okay? And Cammy, stop assaulting children at a baseball fields or whatever it is you did a poor boy. Hey, I'm just
Tammy 1:11:06
trying to teach sportsmanship, whether you like me or not, or you like the other team or not, you still need to tell them good game and give
Scott Benner 1:11:11
them a high five. Swear to God, and that stuff's not pizza and the bears suck, Devin. You remember all
Tammy 1:11:17
this? Okay, all of our teams suck, Devin.
Scott Benner 1:11:19
Have you ever been to the East Coast? New York, Philadelphia. Have you ever been over here in the Northeast?
Tammy 1:11:25
Come Get over here. Now. He's over here. He asked you if you'd ever been to the east coast before?
Devon 1:11:31
No,
Scott Benner 1:11:32
all right, let's maybe get a trip together. Okay, I don't think I have either. Go see civilization, see how things are done. Okay, you're out there with your lakes. You guys got a lake or something? We do have a lake. Okay, come see the ocean.
Tammy 1:11:48
Devon, it's awesome. You've seen the ocean. No way you haven't. You've been to Florida. You did not, haven't seen it.
Scott Benner 1:11:57
Okay? Your mom took you to Florida and didn't let you see the ocean. I didn't think this is a baseball thing.
Tammy 1:12:02
Baseball? No, no, they. His grandmother, on his dad's side, lives in Florida, so they've been there to visit a few times, and apparently never made it to the ocean. I think she's and she's middle of the state, though, I think she's like, near Orlando, yeah, that's like, the Everglades or something, right? I mean, he also ate his Sour Patch Kids, so it wouldn't surprise me, he didn't take him
Scott Benner 1:12:21
to the beach. I think the Everglades are south. Would you go to the Disney go to the the park? Yeah, yeah. How was that? It was good. It was fun. I hear what you're saying. I'm going to be down there in a couple of weeks and giving a talk in Orlando. Devin. This will probably come out after that happened. When am I going? One, two, touch by type one, touch by type one. I gotta leave in like, 17 days. I gotta fly down there. All right. Well, whatever the flying part I don't love, but the rest of it's good. Devin Do you think anybody would ever ask you to come and speak at an event? No, that's right. Good job. Let him be honest. What's this?
Tammy 1:13:01
No, he's my twin. He is going to get there. I can. He's he's got the wit, he's got the, you know, like the quick remarks and stuff like that. Maybe that was didn't come out so much today, but he has that potential in the future for sure.
Scott Benner 1:13:15
Devin, I love you. I just want to say that. Okay, I know your mom doesn't, but I do okay. If it was between you and that dog, I'd throw that dog right out of the house and keep you I want you to know that. Okay, I could see him doing a podcast someday, all right. Well, listen, it's not as easy as you think.
Tammy 1:13:31
Well, he's getting all these traits for me. You talk to strangers and get them to tell you their life story, and that's not all that different from what I do every day. And I feel like he's gonna get that figured out. Piece of, piece of me,
Scott Benner 1:13:42
honestly, I'm gonna tell you, man, keep listening to podcast. Doesn't have to be mine, but keep listening to people who know how to have good conversations and like you'll, you'll pick it up along the way. Also, Tammy, you don't want him to play football, right? Is that you're afraid he's gonna get hurt?
Tammy 1:13:55
No, no. That wasn't what that conversation was about. The the conversation was, he, he is a golfer, and has been golfing for a long time, and he wants to be in the marching band. He's been in band for three years. And all those things happen at the same time. They're all full. So for high school next year, it's all fall sports and fall activities and stuff. And I said, Well, you need to really think about which of these things is your priority, and and don't just jump into football because your friends invited you to and said you should do it. Let's think about all of the pieces and what you enjoy the most, what you think you're the best at, and what your priority is and what's important to you. I said that for apparently far too, too many minutes, and then it would and then it got annoying. So No, it's not that I don't want him to play. I don't think any parent loves the idea of a kid playing football. I don't think that's true, but go ahead. But yeah, I mean, it's some some do, I guess. But I, I just want him to make the decision
Scott Benner 1:14:53
be, be a very thought. You're gonna start a new thing, or he's gonna have to stay with something. Yeah. Band. You What do you play in the band? Symbols? What do you do there?
Devon 1:15:03
Devin, the baritone,
Scott Benner 1:15:05
Baron, baritone, baritone and trombone. Oh, you can play the trombone. Yeah, no kidding. Well, you're self taught.
Tammy 1:15:17
Yeah, the trombone is, that's a recent addition. He's going to be playing that in in the jazz band this year,
Scott Benner 1:15:23
trombonist in the dress in the jazz band. If I made that the title this episode, people would be confused the entire time they were listening.
Tammy 1:15:31
I think people are going to be confused the entire time they're listening anyway,
Scott Benner 1:15:35
yeah, no, I'm pretty sure that's true. This is very what the point of any of this was? I don't know. It was very bush league, all right, I really appreciate, I just sincerely appreciate. I hope we had fun. I really do appreciate that you came on and Tommy, seriously, I'm glad you're doing well,
Tammy 1:15:52
well, and thank you for existing. I mean, that's really what it comes down to, you know, if you weren't doing this, then I never would have dug a little deeper. I wouldn't have advocated for myself as much as I did without the knowledge that you you've put out there. I know that everybody talks about this constantly on on the page, and on other podcast, you know, and other episodes and stuff you know. Advocate, advocate. It's, it's been such an awful, awful journey as far as interactions with our medical staff and and things like that. You know, it's something that needs to just keep being said. And if this, if this story, resonates with anybody, then great. Because honestly, I would still be sitting here with my entire thyroid feeling like crap, not knowing why and who knows when it would have gotten found.
Scott Benner 1:16:39
Yeah, what could have happened, by way, right? Well, I agree. Yeah, everybody, please advocate for yourself and Devin, listen, if you ever need anything, don't hesitate to send an email and I'll get back to you in four to six weeks. Okay, all right, man, thanks for coming on, brother. I appreciate it.
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