Prepping for the Apocalypse with Type 1 Diabetes
Scott and Jenny Smith build a type 1 emergency plan: what goes in a go bag, keeping insulin cool without power, and when worrying has turned into anxiety.
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- Jenny keeps a small bag by her door that goes with her whenever she leaves the house. It has something to treat lows, a glucagon kit (hers is Gvoke), syringes even though she pumps, extra pods and sensors, alcohol pads, Band-Aids, and ibuprofen or Tylenol. Insulin goes in when she'll be far enough away, or gone long enough, that running out would ruin the day. Because she uses a DIY system, she brings a second phone with it loaded when she travels.
- Write your pump settings down and check them against your system now and then. If the pump fails, that's the only place to look for them. Know your own numbers too: what insulin you use and how much you take a day. Jenny averages about 28 total daily units. Scott says many guests can't answer without checking their pump.
- Pack the backups for your backups: a blood glucose meter and strips, batteries for the meter, ketone strips, a thermometer or forehead temperature strips, and medical ID. Add copies of prescriptions, a letter from your doctor, an MDI plan in case the pump stops, insurance cards, and device serial numbers. Keep it all waterproof. For food, think light and calorie-dense, like trail mix, and remember water. Jenny suggests a filter straw or purification tablets.
- For a short outage, keep the fridge closed. It stays cold longer than people think. Evaporative cooling wallets and cooler bags work, and frozen water bottles keep food cold and give you something to drink. Without power for longer, Scott lists a basement floor, burying it a foot or more down, a clay pot cooler, or a sealed container in a stream. Jenny dug straw-lined holes to keep food cool at Girl Scout camp two months after her diagnosis.
- Their bigger point: prepare for what you can get through, like storms and evacuations. Get your refills before a storm hits, charge everything, teach someone to use glucagon and know where the shelters are. If you can't stop thinking about the worst case, Scott suggests talking to someone about it. Jenny points out that the CDC and ADA already publish preparedness guides.
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Why Everyone Is Talking About Disaster Plans1:51
Full terms and conditions can be found at omnipod.com/juicebox. You'll find those links in the show notes of the podcast player you're listening in right now and at juiceboxpodcast.com. Jennifer, I know you're not on the Internet like Scott's on the Internet, and I'm certainly not on the Internet like other people are on the Internet. But did you know that this week, the big news across the world is we're all going to die, and it's coming very soon. Have you heard about this?
Yes. And we should have a plan, and we should have a room full of... Yes. A 100%. I've had I have had so many people who've emailed me for
Disaster of plans.
They're disaster plans, and I
We're making one
today. Actually, like, look it up. I'm like, what's going on? Is the world exploding? Like So I felt very...
And then I was like, oh, this is what this is about. Mhmm. Like, it wasn't something I didn't know about. But Jenny's brain doesn't go to... It's imminent.
Like, oh my god. Like, tomorrow
Yeah.
I have to have, you know, a bomb shelter in my backyard.
Right. I I I have to say we're not talking about the zombie apocalypse, but Arden, it's funny it's funny and sad. And I've seen so many posts this week. Right? And so to understand, the the Internet has commingled a bunch of stories into, like, oh my god.
Look what's happening all of a sudden. So it's not really all of a sudden, but The UK put out a be ready campaign, but that happened back in September. Japan did a... Their disaster ministry said that the government will put out an urgent request on November 2, about new disaster prevention agency profiles. The EU did it back in March 2025.
The Netherlands, has been mailing preparedness guides to more than 8,000,000 households since late twenty twenty five. This is a thing Sweden always does, but when the Internet looked into it, they said, oh, Sweden does it too. Sweden's apparently been doing it, you know, time immemorial. Mhmm. And Canada and many US states run yearly preparedness weeks or months with the same seventy-two-hour kit advice.
So it's very basic. You should be able to, I don't know, sustain your household for seventy two hours, water, food that doesn't need to be cooked. You should have cash on hand, like that kind of stuff. And this makes the Internet crazy. And then I...
Oh my goodness. People's posts are, like, what am I gonna do? Like, obviously, something's happening, and I'm like, something's been happening since the first man walked over the hill. We... We've been in trouble.
If... I don't think this is gonna get us, but okay. If you do, let's put together a checklist. Now the problem is, I don't know what to put on this checklist, and people online have their ideas. And I thought I will take their ideas.
I will take my partner Claude's ideas, and I will take your ideas and put it together and turn it into something people could point their anxiety at. I don't know. Where are you putting the water even, Jenny?
The T1D To-Go Bag4:56
You know what? I'm I'm kinda curious because I feel like at some point, we have talked about a T1D to-go bag
Oh, we did that, like speed. Eight years ago. Yeah.
Yeah. Ago.
Yeah.
Right.
Ago.
Yeah. And so I'm sure that you could find that episode and make note of it
for whatever that is. Old content. They want new fancy content.
I bring it up mainly because it's the same type of stuff to plan to pack. And it's not it's not diff... Right? I mean, that bag is something that you take in and out of your house just because you're leaving for the day or for a couple of hours or whatever.
Right? You're the only one that has that bag by their door, though. Right?
No. I am not.
Stop it. Of course, you are.
So many people I work with absolutely have something prepped and ready to go.
Okay. So Jenny's a big fan of a bag that leaves the house with you every time you leave the house. And, you know, what's in your bag, Jenny? What's in your wallet?
What's in my wallet?
Sam Jackson made a a late life, earnings off of that line. I don't think we're gonna do the same, but you have a bag. I know you have a bag by your door. What... What's in it?
What's in Jenny's Bag6:18
I do. So I always have supplies that unless I need, I don't use them, right, inclusive of something to treat lows with. It has a glucagon kit in it. Mine is Gvoke. Mhmm.
But whatever you got, Baqsimi, Gvoke, old kit, put it in there. And it stays in there just like any of these things unless you really need to use it. And then I have syringes that are in there even though I use an insulin pump. I have syringes in there. I have...
This is the one thing that is not consistently in the bag unless I'm going to be gone from the house or away long enough from my home that it's more of a pain to get back would be insulin. I don't just take insulin with me to go to yoga class at 05:30 in the morning
because it's
seven minutes from my house. Mhmm. Right? But if I were to go someplace I wanted to enjoy, not have the disruption of coming back, then insulin goes in the bag.
Yep. I have a I have a distance and or level of what the day is. Like, I'm not gonna leave someone's birthday party even if it's only twenty minutes away. If that's... If it's a birthday party, I'll bring insulin.
If it's Correct. Too long of a drive where it creates a problem, I'll bring it. If insulin running out would ruin the situation, like going to a booth, a movie, then I have it.
That's Absolutely.
How I think
of it. And I have... Again, the syringes are because it's an alternate way of using that insulin.
Mhmm.
If my product were to fail while I'm out, I would have insulin with me to take care of that even if it's in injection form. Yeah. I know that some people have... I use a DIY system, so my pump lives in an app on my phone. Right?
When I travel away, I have another phone that actually has it loaded onto it in case of need. If I'm just going away for, like, a couple of hours, I don't bring that extra phone along. Mhmm. But it is a potential good thing to know that you could have an easy access to another way to deliver it. I have...
I use Omnipod, so I have extra pods. I use Dexcom, so I have extra sensors. I am... Even though I typically just wash my site, I don't use alcohol. But I have alcohol in the bag.
I have alcohol pads in the bag in case of need. I also have things that may not be specifically something you think are diabetes related, but I have Band Aids in there. I have a couple of sizes of Band Aids. I also have, like, ibuprofen or maybe Tylenol if you use something like that. Because, again, it could indirectly be something that impacts.
Right? Mhmm. You have a bleeder site. You wanna put a Band Aid on it. Blah blah blah.
So those are some of the definite things that are in that bag. It's not terribly heavy. I mean, it's a small little. Not even like a backpack. It's just a small little bag that I pushed everything into to be able to have something easy to take in and out of the house.
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But you can remember it. Dexcom.com/juicebox. Check it out. Beautiful. I think that's super simple.
I'm quite sure that I missed something that is in the bag because I am a planner.
We're gonna go over a list here. Don't worry. Also, at the end, I'm gonna ask you, like, a bigger question, and I'll I'll give my answer too. And I actually know Arden's answer, so I will give that to you as well. Awesome.
Well, it's not gonna be awesome. It's be very, very sad. So hold on till the end of it. But don't worry, Jenny. We'll do the fun stuff first, then we'll get to that part.
Hurricanes, Not Zombies11:51
I think that this plan is more about, hey. A hurricane hit us. Or Yes. There was an earthquake, and we have to leave, or that sort of a thing. If you're...
I think what's happening this week online is big ideas. Like, people are talking about, like, what do we do if a war breaks out? What do we do if Correct. You know, somebody shoots a missile into my... I'm like, I I I think there's no
point. Disaster type of thing is what we're really... And what I've actually... With the limited online stuff, it is definitely the course of what I've seen people going through and talking about and trying to work out.
Insulin for Two Weeks12:28
This is somewhere between, hey, Strait of Hormuz, AI, no electricity, cyber attacks, what happens when, like, that kind of stuff. So Mhmm. Nevertheless, as far as insulin goes, my list includes rapid or ultra rapid acting insulin. Mhmm. It says up to two weeks to be prepared.
Yes. Long acting basal insulin, of course, for pump users, just in case. A written backup basal dose for for your care team for when the pump stops. So make sure you have your settings written down somewhere. Right?
Yep. Because And that's actually something I have. As you bring it up, it is something I have written down. And I do I do look at that to go back and make sure that the settings that I have written are current with what's in my system. Because if it would fail, you now don't really have a place to look what your settings were at.
Battery Banks Run Out13:24
I actually did a thing last night because what I saw was some guy online was like, I have this battery bank, and it's got a solar array on it. And I can charge my phone this many times before it goes bad. And I was like, what happens the next time it goes? Like, what... I...
Like, that's a great thing. Like, a battery bank that'll charge your phone 10, 20 times because that's what runs your algorithm. That's great when the power comes back on. Yes. But if we're all gonna live in darkness forever, I don't know how to break it to you.
Like, that's not gonna last forever. Like, your
Right.
Battery is gonna become pretty useless pretty quickly. And that made me think about refrigeration, like, because people are like, I have so much insulin stockpiled and, you know, and I and I thought, how do you keep it cold? And then, you know, I had an idea, and I looked into it, and I think I'm right. You know, you could dig a hole and bury it underground and keep it cool.
Yep.
Look at me.
100%. Yes. And it works. I will tell you, this isn't TMI at all.
I've never seen you pause like that before. You're like, am I gonna say this?
Jenny's Girl Scout Camp Trick14:24
Thinking, is this, like, weird? It's not really weird. So, actually, after I was diagnosed, I had... I was a girl scout, and my parents bravely sent me away to camp, like, two months after I was diagnosed with syringes and insulin and a couple... And things for low blood sugar and glucagon.
I went to not only camp, but I went to what was called primitive, which is you hike into the woods with your backpacks and your supplies. You dig holes and line it with straw for all of your food and ice supplies. So your holes... Your whole idea absolutely is appropriate because it is cooler in the ground. Mhmm.
And it kept our food cool, and we were just fine.
Well, I'm gonna go over how deep you have to go later just in case you're actually thinking this is a problem. But my my point really is that if the electricity really goes out... And I'm not a doomsday person or a prepper. I just think when things are over, I'll just walk into traffic. It'll be fine.
Like, I'm Oh. I'm not I'm not looking
do that.
I'm not looking to live through apocalypse. But, you know, I'll try for a while, but then, you know Right. Yeah.
Well, look at... I mean, even as a as a fairly good example in the history of my life, you know, when when New Orleans was hit, which it's been hit many times by hurricane, but the major big... Like, where everybody was housed in the big arena and there was no electricity for for many
I remember. Yeah.
It was a long time that they had no power in that and many other areas. Right? But this is a really good reason for bringing up this cons... This consideration
Yeah.
Of people there had diabetes. And
I I also wanna say, I think you could live through a month or two months of problems. Like, if you have a stock... Also, if if if government doesn't completely shut down, if hospitals don't shut down, there's gonna be emergency help. Like, there'll be places to get... It's not like you have to...
Like, I joke all the time when the zombies come. I'm going right to the Walgreens. I know which window I'm going through, and I'm gonna steal all the insulin and leave. Actually, I'm gonna steal some GLP while I'm in there too because I'd like to be
You're gonna steal syringes.
Keeping Insulin Cool Without Power16:45
I'd like to be trimmed during the apocalypse if I could be. And so... But here's some ideas for keeping your insulin cold without electricity. You could bury it. Soil about one foot down usually runs from the high sixties to mid seventies.
And if you go down two or three feet, it could get you into the low sixties to the low seventies. You'd have to be careful in wintertime. You couldn't go below the frost line, etcetera, but there's an idea. In your basement, a cold spot in most houses, it's often in the sixties. In the summer, you go down to your basement, keep it close to the floor.
That concrete floor is... You know, that's it. There's something called a clay pot cooler that you can make. It's like two glazed... Unglazed pots with, like, sand and mill.
You make the sand damp, and it Okay. Creates, like, a cooling thing. You could hang a wet cloth in the breeze, keep it near that. That would actually cool it. In running water, Jenny, you could put it into a container, put it into a a river or some...
I don't know. A stream. A stream.
Yep. Right? And these are all... Again, we're talking about apocalyptic
I thought about this a lot last night, I just wanna say.
Yes. I mean, quite honestly, there's a stream across the street from my house, and I wouldn't even have to go very far
Right.
To submerge my insulin in the water. I just have to make sure it doesn't float away.
You could put a reflective, like, Mylar cover on it just to keep the sun off of it. If you had thermoses, you could do that. That. Also, it's cooler at night than it is during the day. You can keep it in something during the day, open it at night to help it cool off.
That's it. And, you know, your car, a lot of you might have electric cars. You can go steal some electricity out there if it's a short term problem. Yep. Point being, you can keep your insulin cool if you want.
Now when I think of that, I'm like, when... It occurs to me. I'm like, oh, I don't want all this insulin to get hot. I have, like, three months worth of insulin here in my house, and the electric's gonna come back on four days from now. And I don't want this all to be garbage, I have to pay for it again.
But if you're actually thinking about, like, what happens if it's, like, the walking dead and I live in the sticks now and I'm running from... I don't know. I'm running from Russian invaders. Like like like, how am I... These are some ideas for you.
Also, you'd probably figure this out on your own. You wouldn't really need me. And I just wanna say, I don't think you should be thinking about this. I think you should talk to a therapist, but, like, this is... You don't know.
It's between you and god. Do whatever you want. Let's go to the next thing, Jennifer. Need... Needles, pens, you know, I guess alcohol wipes, but I'm gonna use them to start fires pretty quickly.
So
Yeah. There you go.
I mean... Right? Pump... May have... Make sure you have all your pump supplies, but make a checklist.
Because if if you are a person who's like, oh, I have everything and then you don't, one of the most popular Facebook posts is I just traveled somewhere and I forgot.
Don't have.
I thought for sure I packed everything, and I don't. So make a check... If this is important to you, make a checklist. Make sure everything's on there.
Meter, Strips and Batteries19:37
I also really think that in... Depending on how you navigate with your CGM and if you are a CGM user, don't forget your backup to that is a glucose monitor and test strips. So making sure that that's in there. And what do our glucose monitors run off of? Batteries.
So batteries, while you may not think about the battery in your phone being... It's chargeable, it's not changeable.
Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. The CGM
So batteries should absolutely be something that is considered what kind of battery. I mean, usually, those meter batteries last for a really long time.
Mhmm.
But just have some. Right?
Yeah. It's the apocalypse. You're gonna need at least three. Okay?
Ketone Strips20:22
You would need at least three. There you go. I would also say that what goes along with it, again, might be a forgotten item, would be a ketone monitor or at least ketone test strips truly because... Just because it's the apocalypse doesn't mean that you're not gonna get the flu.
Also, I would I would tell you if you're really... If you're a person who's really, like, direly worried about this, I I was joking a moment ago, I shouldn't have been. So listen. Be prepared. I think that's right.
I also think you should talk to somebody if you find yourself worried about this, like, because this is a lot of anxiety.
If it's intrusive.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. If you're just getting ready and, like, whatever. But, like, if it's a thing you can't stop thinking about, like, what if this happens?
What if... Because I've been alive a long time. You turn on the news, something's always happening, and it's easy to extrapolate. And now with the Internet and everybody looking for clicks, which is all this is, by the way, it's just a bunch of people making YouTube videos being like, did you see what The UK is doing? You know what that must mean?
They must think there's gonna be a cyber attack. You must think... And maybe there will be. I'm not saying there won't be. I'm saying...
Don't Worry About It All the Time21:26
I don't want you worrying about it all the time. I was getting ready to say all your CGM stuff, don't forget your blood glucose meter. The thing about what batteries they run off of is a great example of why you would make a list because I wouldn't have thought of that just now. And you said that, I thought, oh, that's right. There's, like, watch batteries in those.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Stuff to treat lows with. You're gonna be running from the enemy. Your blood sugar is gonna get low, Jennifer.
And you don't want it to be heavy juice boxes. I'm sorry. I know that
this is a juice box. No. That's a good point. Because I
don't want to run around like, you want really, really light items to
drink. Yeah. Jennifer's like, if I'm gonna be running for my life, I don't wanna be humping juice boxes with me. It's a good point. Although you could at some point turn around and throw them at somebody.
It's just like, get away from me. And then
Correct. I mean... And if we're if we're talking,
like I'm sorry. I'm I'm making myself laugh. No. You're good. A wolf is gonna kill you way before an invader is going to get you, by the way, like, once you run the woods.
I know a lot of you. You're not... You couldn't stay alive if there wasn't a war outside of it. So
Here you go.
Yes. I know I couldn't. I just wanna be clear. Sorry. Go ahead.
I have coyotes in my neighborhood, and I don't, you know, go out into the dark park at night myself. So Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Good. We're all in trouble. Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
Oh, no. No. It's okay. I was I was trying to think that there was something else in that, and then you started laughing and, oh, out it out it went. I
am like,
that's it.
I I will myself up. You already said gluten.
Hydration and Clean Water22:59
Oh, I know what I was saying. Go go think about it with juice box because juice boxes are liquid. Right? We know how very important it is to stay hydrated. Obviously, in general, everybody should.
But with diabetes, it makes a very big difference in terms of your CGM data, in terms of how insulin moves around in your body, etcetera. So in the event that water supply is impacted, what do you do? Where do you get water? Where do you get hydration from? I mean, there are if you are any type of mountaineer, whether you hike and really go into, like, the backwoods someplace, there are options for tablets you can put in water.
There are even straws that have clarifying components to it. So if if we're going to the ends of what could possibly be needed, you may want to have some of those, let's call them clarifying options for water that maybe you have to take it out of the ditch.
Oh, like one of those straws that cleans water or something like that?
Correct. I'm thinking all of the different cleansing things for water, you have to take it out of a stream. How do you how do you clarify it? How do you make sure that you're not getting the amoebas and getting dysentery?
Well, yeah, I mean, in the end, it doesn't matter if you have diabetes, you don't have diabetes. You run out of clean water. You're gonna be dead in Correct. A couple weeks anyway. Right?
Like
Very soon. Yeah. Much sooner than you would be if you didn't have food. Mhmm. Yes.
Yeah. Exact... And so
I I do not carry these in my T1D to-go bag. These are just things that I'm thinking as you keep saying, this is the apocalypse.
The Zombie Question24:46
I that's why we're talking. Well, that's because the people online think it's all gonna end. Also, you know... And I I... Isn't it lovely that they're like, oh, the whole world's gonna come down.
How do I take care of my kid with diabetes or my son? That's like, oh, that's sweet. I would... Someone asked me, what would you do if the zombies came? I said, in the group, I'd kick Arden in the knee, throw her at the zombies, and run away.
She wasn't gonna make it anyway. You know what I mean?
Kinda reminds me of the... Have you seen the movie Don't Look Up?
Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. On the Netflix.
This kind of reminds me where everybody's, like, prepping and, like, doing all these things. And, really, the people who are the smartest, they're gathering together, and they're having a meal and enjoying people, like each other's company.
You... Jenny, unless you have a farm that is completely self sustaining, okay, and you already know how to collect fresh water and grow food and protect yourself.
Chickens for eggs.
And keep a perimeter, and all... And those people eventually will run out of something, but they'll go longer than you will. Also, some scumbag is gonna come along with a gun and kill them all and take their farm way before that happens anyway. Right? Like...
So when you when you think... When I think about the possibility of this happening, I I don't know... I don't see how you get out of it once it's happening. Right? That's why you don't want it to happen.
That... That's that's why we know you don't run around the world yelling at people and shooting things at them all the time because, you know, one of them might go off half cocked and then you're living on a stone in a in a bush. And, like, we... And none of us are ready for that. I just saw a woman the other day on, I think it was just on social media, but she's like, this is a public service announcement.
People Who Know How to Fix Things26:25
We're all wondering what the most, you know, valuable resources are in the world. And she's like, let me tell you about my husband who can fix anything and how much it costs for a plumber to come to my house. And she's like, I know too many people, men and women, who have never lift up the hood of their car, who have never... Don't know what happens. Like, we need people who know how to do stuff.
And Yeah. I don't think we have a lot of those people anymore. So everybody's like, what am I gonna do? What am I gonna do? You're gonna walk outside without your uggs and get cold and cry.
That's what's gonna happen. You know? So... And that's what I would do. I wanna be clear.
I'd be crying immediately just so I
was also going to bring into it. We we have people who can do those types of tech. Mhmm. Something you go to, like, a tech school for, not necessarily a university or college. Right?
You learn to be a plumber, man. Plumbers, electricians, those are, like, mechanics, all of that hands on stuff. And could we learn it? We could. Where do we learn it today?
We don't go study the encyclopedia at the library anymore. We look up the best YouTube person who's actually telling me how to look for the clicking noise in my car and where it came from. Well, you know what? When something big event like this happens, your YouTube is not gonna work. Jenny, do think
China's whole the
person going outside in your UGGs being like, oh my god. It's so cold. I'm gonna die.
Jenny thinks China's plan is to shut off YouTube so we don't know how to turn the electricity back on.
Yeah. Absolutely. It is. If we are going down, it's going down because people rely too much on looking things up, which I will definitely say that I look things up. I'm not
No.
I'm not immune to that.
Also, I I wouldn't make fun of people, but it's just the way things have gone. Like... And when you take a... This is where I'll say, like, if you reset the world back to pre Internet, we don't know what we're doing. Like like, it's...
No. Like...
Anyway The experts were the experts because they studied it. They know it. That's what they're doing as a job, and then we rely on them. And now everybody is Google doctor.
Learn to Manage Without a CGM28:33
Yeah. I would spend more time I would spend more time instead of trying to figure out how to keep a CGM running, which should be... Listen. Again, short term, couple weeks, couple months of a problem, I want my CGMs. I want them to run.
Of
course. And we'll all get back to our life after that. That's fine. But in a situation where, you know, it's over and we're back to living outside again, like, you're not... I'd say put your effort into learning how to take care of diabetes without a CGM if you really wanna prep.
Arden's Answer29:01
You know what I mean? Like, listen. I know what I would do for Arden. I certainly wouldn't kick her and throw her towards danger. Although I wanna say that that came from her.
She's like, if the zombies came down, I just run at them. I'm done anyway, and then you guys could get away. She told me that. That was her. Aw.
Yeah. She's like, well, how long am I gonna make it? Aw. But she meant about insulin. Also
meant... Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All... Also, I don't wanna tell you, but there was a study in 2024.
It's an opinion piece, but people who need insulin are particularly vulnerable in disasters and conflicts. Conflicts.
Yeah.
And it and it goes over the whole thing. It is not an uplifting outlook, I'll I'll just say. But... So, you know, my point is is that, like, I'd like to make it through. But if you're not gonna make it through, then you gotta go back to pre 1920.
It's Correct. Very low carbs, very... You know, try to get in some calories, stay hydrated. You're gonna be... Your blood sugar's gonna be high a lot.
But, I mean, you could live like that maybe a little while, but eventually, like, you know, what are you gonna do?
Right. Long term, not definitely beneficial, but short term, if instead of running at a 90 blood sugar, running at a one fifty blood sugar, really, that's... It's better than
Nothing. Nothing. Yeah. You're trying to... Well, at that point, it's...
Does it... That is really, like, the idea of trying to stay alive as long as you can hoping that something changes. Like, that's what... It's... You know, if I let you loose in a in a...
One of those coliseums with the bull running around, like, you're gonna run from it, and eventually, it's gonna knock you over. So
Medical ID and Paperwork30:39
Correct. Yeah. That's all. You know, one of the things that this makes me think of, and I highly recommend, but I don't see enough people actually having it on their person is medical ID. So you mentioned before that to some degree, medical services will try to stay accessible.
They will try to stay open and allowing people who really need assistance to be able to come in in whatever way. Well, if systems go down that include electronic medical records and they can't look anything up on you, having things like prescription copies in this to go bag, so to speak, or your packed suitcase that you're gonna haul around with you. Mhmm. A letter of who your doctor was, all of your pump settings, like you mentioned before. Even an idea for somebody that you might connect with clinically so that they know what kind of pump you're using if you aren't able to voice that.
And, hey. I have type one diabetes. I have to have this product as long as it's running. Right? Yeah.
But a medical ID, whether you wear a necklace, if you get a tattoo, if you get a bracelet that you wear and it's always on, so very important.
Know Your Own Doses31:55
Can I tell you one of the things that has shocked me over the years of making the podcast? Do know how many people I've asked, what insulin do you use? What pump do you have? What are you taking that for? What's your dose?
They don't know. You take Synthroid? Oh, a lot of people don't know. I'm sure a lot of people do, but a lot of people don't. So if you're looking for...
If you're listening to this and thinking, don't wanna be one of the first ones to go, I'd learned that you're on point seven five of Synthroid. Like, you know what mean? Like... Yeah. Why do you take that?
I don't know. The lady found a bump on my thing. Learn about your thyroid disease for a second. Like, yeah, like, how much insulin do you use? I don't know the thing does it.
Right. My pump tells me how much to take. I don't know anything about it.
Jenny, you wear an algorithm. You're using... What are you using? Trio?
I use Trio Okay. Now.
Yeah. How much insulin do you use a day?
Average is about twenty eight total daily units. So basal and bolus combined. It's about twenty
eight, 30. Every time I ask somebody that, they say I'd have to get my pump to find out. Yeah. So just learn that. You you know, like, I I don't know.
Like like, put... Invest in understanding your own needs a little bit. Yeah. Because I do think we are... I do think we live in a situation where you...
You're born, you expect everything to go great. Eventually, you realize that's not gonna happen. And then you go to another person who's been designated to help you with that thing, and we relinquish all of our self care about everything to somebody else. Right? And, like, I don't know.
The guy knows. I don't know. She told me to do this. Why do you do that? I don't know.
They said I should. I'm sure I... My kids don't know how the Wi Fi works. Every year, I ask them what Wi Fi is, and they seem confused by it. My son is a...
He codes for a living. He's really good at it. And and when you ask him to, like, articulate, it's because it just exists in their life. Like, it's there. It works.
You know what I mean? And then one day, it's gonna go away. And then in in our scenario here... And... Oh my god.
Thermometers and Sick Days33:55
Can you imagine all these people without TikTok? What are they gonna do? Ketones and sick days supplies you went over. Hey. Maybe bring a thermometer with you to see if you have a fever.
Right? It's not a
bad one. No. That's a... That's definitely a great one. Another...
An easier than a thermometer. They do have the the things that you... They're just strips you can put on somebody's forehead Mhmm. That actually give you a color change for temperature change, maybe easier to pack than a thermometer that's easily breakable
Mhmm.
Unless you get a digital one, but then again, you need batteries. So it's like all of these... Like, find the easiest solution for you to carry around knowing that you're gonna be, like, backpacking this stuff for a bit of time. Mhmm. Right?
Waterproof Everything34:39
One thing that comes to mind for me is depending on where you live would be the bag should either be waterproof or you have your supplies inside of it in waterproof, maybe Ziploc or or some type of waterproof bag so that you can protect it from elements that you may not necessarily be able to avoid yourself.
Also, don't forget that when you're... I learned this on television, but when marauders come for you, they're gonna take all of your supplies anyway. You know what I mean, Jenny. They're gonna maraud
My idea is just to fill a syringe with insulin and jab them with it. And then the marauders, they don't they don't have very long.
And he's like, I'm killing them, but I'm killing myself at the same time. Damn it.
I'm really not a violent person, but that would be my first
If I'm kill you, I imagine you'd stick up for yourself.
Yes.
Short Outages: Don't Open the Fridge35:32
So when there's shorter outages, like, just keeping insulin cool, people panic about this all the time. I'm gonna tell you the first thing is just don't open your refrigerator. Like, if the power goes out, you'd be surprised. That thing can stay cold for a couple days. So, you know, like, don't open your refrigerator.
That's the first thing. But those are... Those evaporating cooling wallets, they work pretty well to keep things cool. I've seen cooler bags. You know, you can go get some ice.
You can keep ice icy for Yes. A while if you have enough of it. But when the whole world's looking for ice, it's not gonna work that way. Also, ice is gonna cost ice is gonna cost sex and $9,000,000 a bag. Alright.
So so be ready. When you
show man sitting at the ice bucket at the grocery store being like, no. No. No. You get three cubes for this cost.
Yeah. And I'm just telling you, when you get there, it it... You ain't gonna like what you pay for the
without ice.
Power Banks, Inverters and Radios36:29
And lose your self respect. If you're just looking to how to keep power around for the house, like, for short term stuff, these charging power banks
Mhmm.
Really awesome. You gotta check them once in a while, make sure they're recharged. Make sure you have cables for all your devices, maybe a spare set and a go bag already to begin with. There's a car charging inverter. So, like, there's a thing you could buy that plugs into the cigarette lighter.
Most cars still have that. They don't call it a cigarette lighter anymore, but they can make, you know, one ten electricity for you. If you need it, then you could do that. Spare batteries, flashlights, those hand crank flashlights, maybe one of those NOAA weather radios that you can, like, you know, get updates on because your phone your phone ain't lasting long. No.
You you know? And then that's pretty much it. Cash and small bills. A generator, if you have one, great. You know, if you if you depend on powered medical equipment, you can register with your power company's medical priority or life support list if they have one.
Mhmm. Mhmm. You talked about documentation already. This is all gonna be... I'm gonna put this out so people can Okay.
Documents to Pack37:42
Sync... Can get to it, but copies of current prescriptions, pharmacy names, pump settings, backup MDI plan because you don't... I mean, you know, you've been using a pump for a while. You might not remember a letter from your doctor stating what your needs are, insurance cards, contact lists, lists of doctors, devices, serial numbers, warranty information, ID bracelet just like you said. Lot of stuff like that.
Food That Won't Go Bad38:09
Food and water, obviously, low carb options, predictable carbs that you know what to do, like, you know, because if... When you can't go online and say how much is in this. You know what I mean? Mhmm.
I always think that in in a space of packing for something like this, a space being too... Like, small and you want as much room as possible for meaty things, food is food is a necessity. And easiest is to pack things that have high calorie density in small portions. This may not fit for everybody who might have nut or seed allergies, but trail mix
Mhmm.
Is fantastic.
Stuff that can't go bad as quickly.
Doesn't go bad. Packs a whomping amount of protein and fat and some carbs. Right? You even get the stuff that's got the dried fruit in it, etcetera, which also doesn't go bad like an apple will rot. Yep.
But those kinds of things that you may already use and know that you like, think about what's gonna have the length of time that doesn't require refrigeration.
And eat food in order of its availability and in the order of how long it's gonna stay. Like you said, you know, if you got a bunch of apples, we're all eating apples today. You know what I mean? That kind of thing. Absolutely.
Also, Armageddon, something like that, that would get me to put some nuts in my mouth. I don't like nuts, but you make a good point. Really? Oh, I don't like how dry they are or something. I don't know how to describe what's wrong with them for me.
What's wrong? But something's
that right.
Something's wrong with them. And... But I would definitely throw them right in in this scenario. I would just choke them down. Great.
Pet Food39:52
Pet food.
Got some stable water that you've
This list says pet food. And let me just tell you when my kids ask me, hey. Was it the last time? Remember the drones were flying over New Jersey?
Oh, yes.
My son was like, we are definitely getting bombed. And I was... And that started one of those conversations where Arden looked at the dog and she was, what happens to the dog if, like, you know, we don't have access to food and everything? I said, oh, we're eating the dog very quickly. Very quickly.
I would be out of luck. There is
You can eat those cats. Don't worry
about it. No. No. No. Oh, god.
There's no way. Oh my god.
Oh, you way. Jenny, you'd freak a see one of those cats if your kids were hungry.
I would not. It would be... I don't know.
You'd make your husband do it, but you would do it.
I wouldn't. No.
I Three weeks later, you'd eating rats.
Grass.
You'd eat rats. You would. Of course, would.
Be the first person to starve. I don't know. I remember eons ago when it was... God. What was the what was the TV show that was...
Where it challenged people to do things
that they had to go. Yeah. The Joe Rogan factor. Joe... Yeah.
The Fear Factor. Right. Right.
Right. Yes. When it came to those episodes or... My husband and I used to watch was the the travel one where they... Survivor.
Right? You mean Amazing Race.
Or Amazing Race. Thank you. Yes. Amazing race, and they have to eat, like, the head of, like, a goat in some, like, mountainous town. And I was like, I'd be out.
Oh. There's... I a game
show, I'm not doing it. But I'm telling you that three months into the apocalypse, you're eating rats. You probably start eating them raw if you can't get a fire. Like, you... Hunger will mess you up.
You're definitely eating those cats. 100%. I'm having, like, a chameleon for cassette over here.
She's got plenty of them. You can stay on
A Manual Can Opener41:40
the reptiles for a week at least. A manual can opener. I thought that was really smart. Like, you know, you got a bunch of cans. You need to be able to get into it.
I have to... Can I say something? I'd like to boast for a second. Oh. I don't know if this is a boast.
We have never owned an electric can opener. I will not buy one. It's ridiculous.
Never owned one either.
Yeah. They make the little Been my parents.
It's a couple bucks.
It it opens the can up.
Uh-huh.
Yeah. And it rinse off. I put it back in the drawer.
Right.
Yeah. Yeah. I would... In a million years, I wouldn't give up the counter space to it. I wouldn't give up the money to it.
I'm far too cheap for that.
No. Don't even think my kids know that an electric one exists.
Do they still... Do you think people... My mom had one.
Even
though. Because I think it was, like, a fancy thing when she got it. She's like, look at this thing. It's also, like, $6. Remember?
It was
like a little box and it's... And it had the little handle on from friends' homes. Absolutely. Oh, you've never actually never. I've never had one in my house nor have my...
Nor did my parents ever have one. My mom still does not have one. It's the turn the crank about three or four times, and the can's open. It even has the nice little thing on the edge. Now you push the the button on the handheld, and you can flip the lid up easily.
And you just hit her microphone. Off? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Very fancy. Oh, have you ever have you ever done it? Like, did you ever
Oh, yes.
Yeah. Like, you reach down to grab it, and it pinches your finger against the side of can, just slices into your finger? Ugh. I think I've done that too.
Horrible feeling.
And then you lose the food too. Anyway... Because, I mean, you bled on it. What are you gonna do? Except in the apocalypse.
Eat that bloody... You eat that bloody tuna fish. No problem.
It's your blood. Come on. Who cares?
The commies are coming. I gotta eat my bloody tuna fish. And
quite honestly, at this point, I think anybody who has diabetes and has ever poked their finger has quite honestly probably licked that finger clean
And they tested
it some point after testing their blood sugar. So we are not, by any means, squeamish about blood.
Fire, Water and Marauders43:36
That's for sure. Okay. So for... We've gone over go bags. Now think about this too.
Fire. Okay?
Mhmm.
You got... If you... If you're only gonna be using water from outside, you're gonna have to boil it to make it clean. True. Then the marauders are gonna see the smoke and come and take you.
I just wanted to say that. So there's no getting out of this is what I'm saying. Like, once... Jenny, you saw what happened during COVID. Right?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah. I mean, we all still had electric then. That's true. Yeah.
We all did. Definitely didn't affect the electricity.
Pushes a button and shuts off the electrical grid, I'm gonna talk to my maker, and then I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna tell everybody how much I love them, and then we're gonna point a gun at one epi... Like, one egress point and see how long we can last. Okay? Because it's gonna get sideways pretty fast.
Yeah. People... I I... That's... It's a fair even though we're laughing about it.
Yeah. It's terrible. Point. Right. It's terrible the way that people kind of react.
I mean
Oh, yo. Yeah. You're gonna see
was it? It was toilet paper. Toilet paper, water, and toweling were the things that were consistently gone. And I was... Like, even at that point, my brain was thinking, this is kind of ridiculous.
Yeah.
Like, that people are... This is what they're worried.
But it was comfort stuff.
I guess.
What Ran Out During COVID44:58
And that they don't know how to... Like, do you know there's a towel in your kitchen? Just wipe something off with it, wash it off, and then wipe something off with it again.
And at the... I mean, I don't wanna say this, but quite honestly, if you run out of all your towels and you don't... Can't wash anything, you you got a hand. Yeah. You can wash that.
Oh, Jennifer.
Wipe it off.
Oh. Oh, yeah. You're... Listen. When the apocalypse comes, you're three months from wiping your ass with your hand, just so you know.
And then Leaves.
I will say leaves work very well.
So I don't wanna know why you know that. Because
I won't say.
You Can't Really Imagine It45:29
I I I think my point would be is that when we sit around in our homes and we pontificate about how to get ready for this, I don't think that any of us really can imagine what that really means. Like like, if you... If you're genuinely worried about, like, end time stuff, you don't know what that means. You gotta go find... I mean, what do you gotta go find at this point?
Like, some guy who's in a hole in World War two? Maybe they understand. Right? Like, you know, even, like, more previous wars are still
Right.
You know, a lot of technology, a lot of comfort. They put barracks up for people, like, stuff like that. Like, you... I think everyone's dead who knows what that means at this point. So, you know, like, what you're imagining, if it really happens, is not gonna be what happens.
It's gonna be
Right.
Way, way worse than that. And I'm saying prep for the stuff that you could easily get through, you know Correct. Bad weather or relocation of sorts, like that kind of stuff. But if you're trying to if you're trying to make a plan to, you know, be alive six months into a world war, I mean, good luck. You know, I don't I don't know what's gonna happen.
And that's what I see people online live. Yeah. And that's what I see people online worrying about right now. Yeah. Oh oh, if you're on the, like, the East or West Coast, you're probably gone anyway.
Don't worry about that. And, like Takes
a while to get to the middle of the country.
So Arkansas, they got a few months. You're safe. Yeah. Yeah. First of all, nobody wants it.
And secondly, it's way far away from where the ships land. But then we could just shoot you from the sky. It's really problem. I... My point is is that, like
I always think that the wilds of Canada would be the place to run away to because, like, man, you could get lost. Like
Well, I... But that is really the point is that you you really do have to, like... I mean, in my estimation, you'd have to you would have to really be a prepper. You'd have to be able to, like, go where no one could find you and you could sustain yourself. And then by the way, four days into it, you'd be like, ugh.
Is this the rest of my life? What am I doing?
I have to go to live in a tree because the bears are out in the middle of the night, and I can't leave food around. Right? I mean, honestly, it's... Like, the stuff that you have to consider... There is.
And you... I mean, we could keep digging, like, tunnels in this rabbit hole of what do we need to do and... But the baseline starts with just your type one needs
Yeah.
And then expand from there depending on what you really think you're gonna need beyond.
100%. Also, I'm not making light of this. I'm... I think I'm doing a public service here. I'm just saying, don't worry about it.
It's... What do you do? Just don't worry about it. Like, if that happens, it's over anyway. You you know what I mean?
Like, come on.
It's Already Online48:16
Right. I also think that as people think about this and are bringing it up and discussing, we have access to so many tools already online. Mhmm. You are putting together a list, which is fantastic, but is out there in many places and in many forms already. So if you use the Internet like you use it for so many other social things
Right.
You could easily go... I guarantee the CDC has emergency preparedness for many medical conditions that are available. Right? I guarantee that the ADA, whether you like them or not, they have preparedness.
Yeah. They don't need us doing this.
From their website.
Yeah. Also, do you think I knew all this? I just was like, hey. In a real disaster, what would I... A person would type
on Do ask Claude?
A person I asked Claude immediately. And he knew, by the way, or she. I don't know. I've never asked. But, like
knew. And where did where did the AI probably
the ADA and from the book? Yeah. So... But... So my point is that when...
Is It Anxiety?49:21
But it wasn't one post. It was a lot of posts and a lot of people. So I... What I'm here to tell those people is that's anxiety because there's a way to know the answer to your question. When you go online, you say, oh my god.
What are we gonna do if this should happen? I think what you're really doing is you're going... You want people to tell you, don't worry. It's gonna be okay. Like, I think you're looking for, like, some support.
And that's why what I said in the beginning is my real answer. It's like, call a therapist and tell them you're thinking about this too much because it's a thing you should talk about. Like, it would be like if you and I sat here and I... If I went online today and I said, I'm super worried that a meteor is going to hit North America and kill us all. That is not a thing, Jenny, I have any control over.
Right? Like... So if that happens, then that happens, and then I'm gonna die. We're like a bag of water. You will pop like a pimple.
Don't worry about it. Okay? It's gonna be over in a split second.
Funny comparison. Yeah.
But... Yeah. You really won't know. Okay? Like, so, like, just True.
Why would you worry about that? And then all the things that you could worry about about your diabetes, I don't see anybody worried about them.
Why People Ask the Community50:36
Right. I do I do believe that, yes, some of it some of it is... We become a little bit more worried when we have something like diabetes that is so in our face every day. Mhmm. And we manage a certain way, and we can't see a way to manage outside of the way that we've figured out becomes worrisome.
I do think that in discussion, some people outreach not from a level of worrisome anxiety, but because there is truly valuable... There's there's true value to the community of people online with diabetes in the fact of, I know that if I bring up this topic, someone will have the answer because they're already prepared
I thought about it.
Or someone has already gone through this, and they can just easily tell me. And I feel better that it's coming from somebody who lives with something like I do the same thing Mhmm. Than going to the the CDC's website and looking. And then it's just... It's very impersonal Mhmm.
Compared to asking somebody else that you trust more almost.
For a Real Storm51:50
Yeah. And again, in in most situations, you you get this information in a ton of places. Also, I think your common sense will kick in pretty quickly. Yeah. And...
But in in a more of, a storm situation, get written backups from your care team, have an MDI plan, know what your sick day rules are, Try to... You know, if if there's a bad storm coming next week, go get your refills on your scripts now.
Correct.
Charge things, teach other people how to use glucagon if you haven't done that. You can locate emergency shelters so you know where they are ahead of time if you need to go. Charge your devices. You can freeze water bottles, and then use them to Yes. Keep your your food, you know, cold.
And you also have water to drink then.
Yep. Always have your go bag ready in case you actually do have to bug out because that is not... That's no joke. Like, you could you could be sitting in your bed, and ten minutes later, someone with a bullhorn could be on your street saying, you have to go right now. And if that happens, you do...
I mean, you're gonna
want Jenny
to go
time to pack a backpack.
Jenny's gonna be holding her go bag, running out of that house. I knew it. I I knew it. Prepared. Was right.
Saving Your Phone Battery52:57
Leave the cats. We're not taking the cats. You know, phone stuff, it's tough. Right? These phones die so quickly.
Mhmm. I... If I was you, if I... That phone was important to running a device, the first thing I would make Arden do is shut off the Wi Fi so that it's not pinging towers all the time. You know, you'd need it for Bluetooth to run the device, but I would shut the Wi Fi off.
If you don't need it to run the device, I'd shut the Bluetooth off and the Wi Fi off, anything that makes it ping and use
that kind of stuff. Have to consider as we're talking about this in particular, you might bring your charger along. But it makes me think of the airport and trying to find a charger when you're at the airport. Good luck. Yeah.
Good luck finding a place in a wall with thousands of people, and every single one of them wants to plug their device in, and there are, like, three available.
Charging at a Restaurant53:51
We lost power after a hurricane here for probably a week one time. And I remember a few nights into it, like, weather, like, calmed down, but everything was, like, kinda decimated. We drove two towns over to find an open restaurant just so we could all charge up our And we just sat in the restaurant charging things. And every time they looked at us, we just ordered more food. We were like, we'll keep buying food if you let us keep
Please just give us
more French fries. We we need more electricity.
More tea. Yeah. Yeah. That's all we need.
That kind of stuff. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. Like, as soon as I think the power is gonna go out, I grab everything, charge everything up. You know, there's one power bank in the house. It's probably not enough, but, you know, it's also one of those things we've never used.
Like, you know, like, so it it gets a little dicey. Also, if you've got a car, you could probably travel somewhere where this stuff exists.
Correct.
The Checklist Goes on the Blog54:44
I am gonna put all this on the website. So when you're listening to this, if you go to juiceboxpodcast.com and scroll down to the blog, you'll see this there.
Fantastic.
Jennifer, I hope it doesn't happen.
I hope it doesn't happen as
But I'm not in control
of a way to be peace makers.
Yes. Yeah. Let's stop doing all
that stuff. Kind... Do unto others like you would have them do unto you.
Mhmm. That's
the last.
And when the zombie comes, just remember you don't have to be faster than the zombie. Just have to be faster than one of
your friends. You don't have to be kind to the zombie.
No. But, you know, you don't you don't have to outrun the bear kind of an idea.
No. Yeah. Just your friend. Awesome.
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