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Bolus 4 · Episode 1853

Sushi

A listener's order: a spicy tuna roll dunked in a soy, wasabi and ginger slurry, plus maki, nigiri, sashimi, California and dynamite rolls. Scott has eaten exactly one piece of sushi in his life. Jenny's family goes for it every celebration — and she has a number she counts for a spicy tuna roll, and a pre-bolus trick for the rice.

Scott Benner and Jenny Smith, RD, CDCES, LD
Open the Bolus 4 estimator
Carb ratio1:10
Sensitivity50
Target90
Fat + protein50%

Scott's standing Bolus 4 settings, run live in the estimator on the recording: one unit covers 10, sensitivity 50, target 90, the default 50% fat-protein factor, and a stable trend with no blood sugar entered. For the full lunch at the end he enters a blood sugar of 90. 9:08

01 · Bolus 4 · Episode 1853

One spicy tuna roll

Rice, tuna and a spicy mayo. Six to eight pieces, and far more carb and far more protein than it looks like on the plate.

3:15

Spicy tuna roll — 8 pieces

35carb20protein15fat
3.50u up front1.07u over 4h4.58u total
Jenny's macros, run in the estimator on the recording: 3.5 up front, 1.07 over four hours — “almost 4.6 units” for one roll.
Jenny's estimate · 1:10 · 50 · stable line, no blood sugar entered  ·  Click any item to hear that moment
The request3:15

“Spicy tuna roll, dunked in soy sauce, wasabi and ginger slurry.”

Then maki, nigiri, sashimi, temaki, California rolls and dynamite rolls. Scott asked Gemini for a nutritional breakdown of all of it — “be complete, be accurate” — but he wanted to hear what Jenny thinks first.

Why sushi rice isn't just rice4:45

Jenny, on what's in a roll.

  1. The rice is short grainMuch starchier — and it's seasoned with a sugar and vinegar mixture to make it sticky. More carb than plain rice.
  2. Size is the diameterSix to eight pieces a roll. Small, medium, or the big specialty rolls with extra sauces and crispy onions on top. The wider the roll, the more carb in every piece.
  3. “Spicy” usually means mayonnaiseThe spice comes in a mayo with some heat in it. That's the fat.
Jenny's per-piece math5:50
Eight pieces of a spicy tuna roll at four grams a piece?
32g
That's on the low end. What Jenny actually counts for a spicy tuna roll: 38. “I figured out what works.” The lower thirties were too little at the place she goes over and over.
The whole roll, Jenny's estimate8:05
35g carbs
A reasonable starting number if you don't have one of your own yet.
3oz tuna
It looks small piece by piece. At seven grams of protein an ounce, about 20 grams for the roll.
15g fat
The mayo sauce — 10 to 15, Jenny says. Gemini said 11. Scott went with Jenny.
1:1?carbs to protein
Gemini's breakdown had the roll almost one-to-one. Jenny would expect less protein than carb. Every restaurant will be different.
Build the bolus shape11:18

Why Jenny agrees with a four-hour extension.

  1. The rice is a quick hitHigh glycemic index. Pre-bolusing matters here.
  2. It's eaten coldLike pasta cooked, cooled and eaten cold, cold rice can dull the glycemic hit — and stretch it out. With the protein alongside, that stretch can be several hours.
  3. It's smallThat's what trips people up. It's rice, it's a little piece — and then the second push shows up hours later.
Offset the timing12:59
9min · stable
The estimator's pre-bolus with no blood sugar entered and a stable trend.
12min · at 120
Enter a blood sugar of 120 and it stretches to twelve.
15min · Jenny
Her own pre-bolus once the order is placed — as long as she's in target, even trending slightly down.
40%of the carbs
What Jenny pre-boluses. Not all of it. The rest goes in when the food arrives.
Jenny's sushi strategy13:42

Pre-bolus 40% when you order. The rest when it lands.

If she boluses it all up front, she'll hit a low before the rest of the meal kicks in. So she pre-boluses enough to catch the first part of the digestion, then enters the rest as she starts eating — a heavier blanket for the second burst, as Scott puts it. The classic little-kid pre-bolus trick.

Take out the protein, then the fat15:08

Scott, moving numbers in the estimator.

  1. Without the proteinStill 3.5 up front, but the extended wave drops by about half a unit and shrinks from four hours to three.
  2. Without the fatJust 35 carbs: a 3.5 bolus and nothing for later. That must be what people are seeing.
  3. Treat it like a burger and friesScott: as far as that secondary hit goes, this food deserves the same respect.
  4. Specialty rolls push it furtherJenny: fried shrimp, fried squid or eel inside, mayo sauces on top, avocado in a California roll. Edamame first helps — fiber and protein before the rice.
02 · Bolus 4 · Episode 1853

The slurry

Soy sauce, wasabi and pickled ginger, mixed and dunked. Like ketchup: easy not to count.

16:43
What goes in it, per Gemini16:43
2g carbs · soy
Two tablespoons of soy sauce: two carbs, two protein. More than Scott expected.
3g carbs · wasabi
About a teaspoon of wasabi paste.
0g · ginger
Pickled ginger has none. Jenny loves it.
10g carbs · the slurry
Gemini's total for the dunking mix, with two grams of protein. Its pieces don't add up to 10 on their own — this is the number Scott used.
The roll plus the slurry · 1:10 · 50 · stable line17:55
45carb22protein15fat
Up front
4.50u
Up a full unit from the roll alone
Then, over 4 hours
1.11u
2.2 fat-protein units
Theoretical requirement
5.62u
20% of it is not carbs

On the tape: “it's now four units up front — that went up by a half unit,” and “over five units” total. The estimator's math on 45 carbs is 4.50 up front, 1.11 over four hours, 5.62 total (the estimator rounds each figure on its own). Jenny: that 10 grams is a unit you'd miss — and with a sensitivity of 50, a 50-point rise you didn't expect.

03 · Bolus 4 · Episode 1853

The rest of the menu

Would a person eat a spicy tuna roll and a California roll? “If you were my children — oh, the more rolls, the better.”

19:07
Gemini's breakdown, as Scott read it19:07
38g carbs

California roll

9 grams of protein. Avocado inside.
45g carbs

Dynamite roll

12 grams of protein.
25g carbs

Maki

The simple one. 15 grams of protein.
22–25g protein

Sashimi

Three to four and a half ounces of thick slices, no rice. Jenny: five to seven grams of protein a piece. A big plate of it means a hit down the road.
Tweak for next time20:24

Start somewhere reasonable, then teach it what happened.

Scott used Gemini; he didn't check ChatGPT or Claude. Jenny: the more you feed it — eight pieces, each about an inch across — the better the answer. Scott's next step: tell it your settings, what you tried and how it came out, so the next time it can say “last time this took more for you.” Sushi comes up because everybody seems to struggle with it.

04 · Bolus 4 · Episode 1853

A real lunch

Nobody eats one roll. Jenny's version of lunch out on your own: two spicy tuna rolls and four pieces of salmon nigiri.

24:27

Two spicy tuna rolls + four salmon nigiri

105carb50protein45fat
10.50u up front3.02u over 8h13.53u total
Scott's first tally was 76 carbs, 30 fat, 44 protein. Jenny: “that's on the light side” — 70 for the two rolls, about 35 for the nigiri. This is the run he did with her numbers.
Jenny's estimate · 1:10 · 50 · blood sugar 90, stable  ·  Click any item to hear that moment
The whole lunch · 1:10 · 50 · blood sugar 9027:31
105carb50protein45fat
Up front
10.50u
Scott: “10 and a half units” — nine-minute pre-bolus
Then, over 8 hours
3.02u
6.0 fat-protein units
Theoretical requirement
13.53u
22% of it is not carbs

As read: 10 and a half up front, three units over eight hours, “13 and a half units for sushi.” The estimator's math lands on 10.50, 3.03 over eight hours, 13.53.

Why the number scares people27:52

Jenny: this is not a judgment.

  1. “Something's gotta be wrong”If your meals are usually six or seven units, 13 and a half looks like a mistake. Scott: but are you having this meal on six or seven units and sitting at 300 for five hours? This is your answer.
  2. Drop the fat and the whole wave disappearsNobody teaches you to bolus for fat. Take it out and the estimator just says 10 and a half — three units and eight hours of need, gone.
  3. An automated system can make it worseNot only is the extended insulin missing — the algorithm may be pulling your basal. Then you call the pump company and say the pump doesn't work.
  4. A learning toolScott built the estimator to learn from: throw numbers in and watch what counting, or not counting, each thing does to the amount and the timing. Take it to your doctor and ask why nobody mentioned fat.
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Things to remember from this one

The numbers that transfer to the next one.

4gper piece
Jenny's low-end count for a spicy tuna roll piece. She counts 38 for the whole roll.
40%pre-bolus
Jenny's sushi move: 40% of the carbs 15 minutes out, the rest when it arrives.
10gslurry
the soy-wasabi dunk. At 1:10, a unit you'd miss — and a 50-point rise.
5–7gprotein a piece
Jenny's number for sashimi.

“I count 38 because I figured that's I figured out what works.”

Jenny Smith6:04

“They should be treating this food almost like a burger and fries as far as, like, that secondary hit.”

Scott Benner15:45

“This little 10 grams of carb, that's a unit of insulin that you miss.”

Jenny Smith18:30

“Oh, the more rolls, the better.”

Jenny Smith19:56
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