This Is Jeopardy
Kaylea tried out for Jeopardy for twenty-six years, then wore her devices on her arms on national TV. She has type 1, and so do two of her three siblings.
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- Kaylea first auditioned for the Jeopardy kids' tournament at 11 or 12, not long after her type 1 diagnosis. Harry Potter came up as a category in that mock game and she couldn't buzz in fast enough. Twenty-six years and four tryouts later, a Harry Potter category came up again in her final audition. She made the show anyway, taped in April and aired June 8. She finished third against a five-day champion, mostly because she kept buzzing in too early and getting locked out.
- She wore her Omnipod and Dexcom on her arms on purpose. She wears her devices where people can see them so it starts conversations and feels normal. The diabetes community found her through them, and parents wrote to say their kids saw someone on TV who looked like them. In a Jeopardy fan group, a few people said it was inappropriate and she should have covered her arms. Others shut them down.
- She was diagnosed a couple of weeks before turning 11, in 2000, on R and NPH that had to be mixed. Then a sister was diagnosed, and later her brother, at about 16. Their parents have no autoimmune history. A year after her diagnosis she was diagnosed with thyroid cancer, and diabetes took a backseat. She was on MDI for about fifteen years and spent her teens pretending she didn't have diabetes, with an A1C around 13.
- A doctor in Atlanta told her that if she wasn't going to put the work in, he would drop her as a patient. She cried in his office, then got her A1C to about 6.5. The years of high blood sugar still caught up with her: about five years ago she developed retinopathy and needed vitrectomies in both eyes. Her eyes are stable now. What she says would have helped at 16 is seeing another person with type 1 to look up to, which is why she's public about it now.
- She loops now. Her A1C hit 5.6 during pregnancy and sits around 6.2. After trying for a year to lose weight on her own, her endo put her on Ozempic, and later Mounjaro. She has lost more than 100 pounds and uses much less insulin. Scott and his family are on GLPs too, and Kelly will tell her own story on the podcast in early 2027.
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Meet Kaylea2:26
I'm Kaylea Bowers. I'm a former Jeopardy contestant and now just living my life down in Florida as a toddler mom with type one diabetes.
You have type one, not the toddler.
I have type one.
Okay.
Not the toddler. Thank god.
When the Attention Goes Away2:39
I'm gonna start my questioning in a strange way. How how does it feel to have some level of, like, people being aware of you publicly and then it going away quickly?
It's really weird, actually. I've told some of my friends this. It's like you go from everybody and their brother freaking out because they know somebody that's been on TV to just quietly settling back into the humdrum of day to day life. And, yeah, it's it's kind of a strange thing. You almost go through the stages of grief very quickly, in a way, and some of my fellow contestants have said the same thing.
They're like, yeah. It was it was this huge major milestone in my life, and now it's just it's just gone. Like, it's that, on top of achieving a lifelong goal and a lifelong dream that suddenly you wonder, well, what do I do now? I did the thing. So I'm so Now I'm not sure what to do.
Oh, I'm so super interested in all this. So, also, people listening, even you, Kelly, should be like, wow. What an insightful question right off the bat. I never would have thought to ask that. But I I I first started having this feeling, I mean, I think the first time I realized that, you know, Lenny Dykstra was running around the planet with prostitutes and cocaine.
And and I thought he used to be one of the best baseball players ever. Yeah. And and it's the first time it made me think of, like, oh, like, what happens when you become accustomed to 60,000 people sitting in a... In one space going like, you're a god, and then you go home. And Right.
You're just in your living room. You you know? And I and I have a modicum of... I don't even... I wouldn't even call it fame.
Like, I have some public, like, perception of me. Right? And I all the time think about, like, oh, when I retire and I stopped doing this. And in the back of my head, I think, what am I gonna do when I don't have anybody to tell how I feel about stuff?
Right. Because my It's like, are you now?
Yeah. No. Really? My wife's not gonna care three days into it. Like, I literally was talking to her last night.
I was like, are you listening to me? She goes, sure. Am. I'm like, oh god. I gotta go make a podcast.
Like, you're not listening at all. Or or my son brings something up today, and I'm, like, laying the whole thing out for him. And I look at him and I go, he's not looking for a podcast on this. I get it. So you guys are the only ones saving me.
But I... So I don't know where I'll be in that time. But it occurred to me that you must have lived fast and died young in this space. So first of all, tell me, what do mean a lifelong dream? You wanted to be on Jeopardy forever?
A Lifelong Dream5:21
Oh, yeah. Forever. I mean, I started watching that show when I... I don't even know how old I was, but very young, usually at my grandparents' house. And when I was 12...
11 or 12, it wasn't too long after my type one diagnosis, actually. I thought, I'm gonna try out for the kids' tournament. And I was living in Atlanta at the time, and my mom... I remember it was such an exciting day. She took me downtown.
It was all in person and at a fancy hotel, and, they take all the kids into a room and you take a test. And if you do well enough, then they make you take another test. So you have to, like, you know, really like tests, I guess. Mhmm. And then they...
If you if you do well enough on that one, then you get to stay for a a fake game. And they've got the buzzers, and and you get to do the whole thing. And I'm I'm aging myself, but I was, like, really deep into Harry Potter at the time. And I got up there to do my mock game, and Harry Potter was one of the categories. And I I think at this time, maybe the fourth book had just come out, and I was, like, secretly reading it in my desk at school, like, sliding it out when the teacher wasn't looking.
And I thought, oh, this this is it. This is my time. And I was so slow on the buzzer. I couldn't react fast enough to answer any of them, so it was it was a tragic end to a really exciting day.
Mom and
I still have to go to, like, the Hard Rock Cafe, and we had a fancy lunch and and all the the whole shebang. But that's when I that's when I got the bug for trying out, and then I waited a few years, didn't try out again until after college. But, yeah, I made it... Changed over the years the way they did it, but made it that far four times total, and the fourth time was the charm this time. And, yeah, they called me up, and I was like, are you serious?
You tried
out... Who
who gets a phone call?
Wait. I'm sorry. You tried out four times for Jeopardy?
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Over the course of... What's that? Twenty twenty six years?
No kidding. Something like that. Yeah.
All fueled by the upsetness that you felt when you're like, it's I know it's Dobby. Why can't I push the button? Yeah.
Harry Potter Redemption7:27
Yeah. Was like, I need Harry Potter redemption. And I'm not kidding you. I couldn't believe this. During my mock game this last time, another Harry Potter...
Like, a category came up, and I'm like, you've gotta be... This is not... You've gotta be kidding me. This time around, there's only three questions, and they kinda do the audition in rounds. So the first group of people, they're doing their game, and they pick a couple of the questions from the Harry Potter category.
And I'm like, no freaking way. Like, you're you're gonna leave one for me. And they did. There there it is, and I get to call a Harry Potter for four hundred or whatever it was. Well, this time, there's no real buzzers.
They're just kinda relying on us on Zoom, holding our fingers up and and pretending like we're buzzing in on a pen. Okay. And then she called on somebody else. Like, I I know I had it first this time. So twice twice Harry Potter, it it let me down.
But I I
made it on the show this time, so I guess I guess it all worked out.
Why why do you think that is? Like, because I just would have screamed Half-Blood Prince. And and while the other person went, it was my turn, and I would have been like, I don't care. I'm proving to you that I know the answer. Right.
Or like, that's my daughter. It's like, no. I wasn't gonna go there.
Yeah. So why do you think they chose you? Did they tell you?
I mean, I like to think I've got a a pretty decent personality, so I hope that it was it was on vibes. But I answered I answered other... A lot of other questions. Was able to buzz in and answer a whole bunch of other ones correctly. So they knew that I I could keep going, could pick up even if I didn't buzz in on time.
But My question is, is they never tell you why you were a good choice or why you were their choice that time or anything like that?
No. Not really. It's kind of a guessing game.
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And, I mean, if you look at the different types of people that end up on the show, it's, you know, we're not all we're not all the same. So you've got some people that are really intense and more serious and people like me who are a little goofy and a little more upbeat, I guess. So it it runs the gamut. At the end of the day, like, once you make it to that mock game piece of it, and they do a little interview afterwards too, it's more of a, well, you've taken two tests. We know that you can do trivia.
At that point, it's... Do we think you're a good fit for TV, and would people wanna watch you?
So Oh.
I guess I'm like, oh, okay. Cool. I'm flattered. You you thought I'd be good on TV.
Probably a big whiteboard in the office. It just says, like, dark hair, mid thirties, good energy.
Right.
Then there's dark hair, mid thirties, low energy, dark hair. Exactly. It's gonna like a thousand buckets. They're like, put... They keep filling them with people and then they just mix and match them together and make a Right.
A show out of it. I bet you that is. Yeah.
Oh. I would be willing to bet you're right.
No kidding.
It's all a mystery.
And so how long ago did you actually get on the show?
Taping Day12:08
I was there. We filmed in April, mid April the sixteenth, and then the show aired June 8. So it was a pretty quick turnaround. I always thought it was much longer.
Mhmm.
But, yeah, they filmed... It's five episodes in a day, so it's a really long day. And you get to see a whole week go by, and then that's that. They send me on your way. They say, hey.
This is when your episode's gonna air, and then you get to watch yourself on TV, which is a bizarre and humbling experience.
So you... Okay. I have a lot of questions. So you've... You you did five episodes in one day.
Were you done filming at that point?
Yeah. I mean, like, spoiler alert. I I didn't do that well. I I I... My my fame might have lasted a little bit longer if I had.
No. I I had... I was the first game of the day, and so we started... Oh god. It was, like, eight or nine in the morning, California time.
So for me, I I felt great. It's like, oh, sweet. It's, like, you know, midday. I feel good. But started early, played the first game.
Up Against a Five-Day Champion13:11
I was up against a formidable five day champion who had his buzzer strategy down to a tee. And I just... If anybody goes back and can find that episode, the reason that I'm, like, silent through almost the first half of the game is because I was desperately trying to buzz in, and I just couldn't. Dad was in the audience, and he's like, yeah. I could...
I, like, I could see your arm flexing. You were really, really trying to buzz. Yeah. I I sure was. So you...
You just couldn't make it happen.
Do you feel like you knew a number of the answers that were... Or questions that were... That you had to present, and you just couldn't get to the first position on the buzzer?
Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I I felt like I knew way more than I was actually able to answer. And, I mean, there's also a chance, this this I didn't know until we played, that I was buzzing in too early.
So a lot of people don't realize that if you buzz in too soon, yeah, it locks you out for about half a second, which sounds like nothing. But when you're up against people who also know the thing right away
It's a lot of fun. You. Nope. Yeah. Oh my goodness.
Scott Wants to Host a Game Show14:17
I... Just this is ironic that you're on. I just explained to my son the other day that my goal is to be a game show host because... And he looked at me. And he looked at me.
He's like, why? I'm like, they work, like, a month, a year, or something like that. Like, it's a very... Like like, I'm like, they'll shoot, like, five, six, 10 of these in a day, and then, like, you do it for a week and you're... You go home.
Like, I mean, judge Judy is a is... She's she's a genius. You you know what I mean?
Like Absolutely.
She's not making a one
of those have a dream job.
Oh, I'm
He's like, I'm gonna fly in a couple days a week and then just go back home to Seattle.
Like, okay.
Sign me up.
Now I'll tell you, the things holding me back are I'm old. I don't photograph well. I'm short. It's like none of it's gonna really work out. I I don't think it's gonna happen for me.
I've got the voice.
You'd be great. You've got the voice. Exactly.
I'd be fantastic. That's not the question. The question is is that, like, I don't think I look the part. So it actually... What you said made me wonder how many people are out there who would be way better at Jeopardy, but they didn't look right for Jeopardy.
And they were like, no. Thanks. That's really interesting.
Yeah. You may never know.
And then you have to be at home and know that. You have to know, like, I'm better than these people. Actually, I Oh, yeah. We just talked yesterday, like, while football was on, and I said, these quarterbacks are all so terrible. Imagine having been in, like, college football as a quarterback.
Do you sit at home and think, god, how bad am I if they chose these people? Like, that really... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
It's hard on you. Are you... You have It is. Yeah. Yeah.
You're married.
Especially if you're an expert in the field, and you you you know you know what you know. You know what you're doing. So it's not coming from nowhere. I mean, I will say at least with the Jeopardy thing, like, there is a there is a degree of pressure that comes with being on that stage. It's so easy to sit on my couch and be like, man, I could've done better than that guy.
Oh, for sure.
Being being up there, that's a that's a different ballgame.
How how did you find the the the, like, lights and it feeling different and strange? Was it off putting, or were you just, like, so... Like, I've been trying for this for so long, you just kinda melted into it?
Yeah. It was more of that, honestly. And I'm I'm a natural... Like, I don't mind being on stage. It doesn't freak me out.
Like, even talking to you now, I'm like, yeah. Let's go. Let's talk. Mhmm. I've been a musician since I was really young, so put me up somewhere, and I'm...
And and I'm just chatty. So I'll just go go go. But being up there was like, oh, this is strange, and it's way smaller than I expected. That... That's the thing that everybody walks away saying.
Like, yeah. The set's really small. It looks huge on TV, but it's pretty little. And, yeah, being up there with the lights and everything, it's sort of... It's a surreal it's a surreal experience.
And even now, I look back at it, and it's like... I mean, I know I was there, and I know I did it. And there's recorded video proof that I did it, but did I really?
And you also...
Almost feel like it didn't happen?
Yeah. You can't go back and watch all the time because then you're just... That... That's just sad. It's just a it's a little narcissistic.
Yeah. Yeah. You can't do that. Yeah. So now now it's the thing you're gonna like, and if you whip it out ten years from now, you're like, hey.
Watch mommy lose on Jeopardy pretty decidedly. Exactly.
But it's like, hey. You know what? They still... At the end of the day, they still sent me a check, so no complaints. Did you get paid?
Yeah. Third place still gets $2.
The iPhone Commercial17:42
Can I tell you something I don't think I've ever said on here? Yeah. When the first... Boy, I am starting to get old. When the first iPhone came out, was it 2007 maybe?
I don't know.
Yeah. Six or seven. That sounds about right.
I had this little experience at my house, and I I wrote an email to my friend about it. It's... I don't know if it's important what happened or not, but I stopped my... I mean, this is just such a look into how far technology's come, but I stopped my wife on her way out the door to go to work. And I said, oh my god.
Look at this. All of our photos are on my phone. Uh-huh. I know that sounds crazy. Right?
And and my wife pauses to... I'm gonna assume placate me for a second. And she... Because she's on her way to work. She really must not care.
You know? And she stops for, I don't know, sixty seconds, like, something like that. And then Yeah. And then gets in her car and starts to drive, like, out of our... Like, to drive out of our driveway, and a tree falls across the road in the in the direction she was going in.
So I I I write that to my buddy in an email that morning, and I was like, I basically saved her life by showing her my iPhone and how the photos went on it.
And Yeah.
And, you know, I was kidding around, but it was also an interesting thing that happened and whatever. And we were chatting. Well, he sends the email to Apple, and then the next thing I know, I'm in California making an iPhone commercial.
No way.
Yeah. Yeah. And it was me and, like, I wanna say 20 other people who they kind of, like... You have to understand how much of a nothing an iPhone was when it first came out. Right?
Like, I've said recently on the podcast, like, I was so excited that my calendar was on my phone. Like... Yeah. Like, it was so very... It did so very little.
Anyway, we're out there, we're we're filming these, and it went on for, like, a week. My my commercial was not chosen to be on television, which by the way, I think, again, I don't think I have the vibe they were looking for visually. And I get that. Right? But I knew a friend.
One of the guys that I met out there, name's Bryce, actually, and he's an airline pilot. Okay. And they chose his. And it ran for months, like Thursday night, like during Seinfeld, like that kind of thing. Right?
Okay.
He made almost $200,000 in residuals.
You're kidding me.
I swear.
From being in one commercial?
One commercial. Like, he got
I've done something wrong in life.
That's He got paid. Right? And one day, like, months and months later, as we're all sitting around going like, I wish I would have picked my commercial. Like, you know, like, that kind of thing. I got a check-in the mail.
I worked for five days. I got a check-in the mail for... This... Can you guess?
Oh, five days. I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna guess they were generous and gave you, well, like, $4.
Yeah. I made, $17,000.
You're kidding me.
I never even knew I was getting paid.
Wow. That's a nice surprise.
Oh, it was awesome. And it was 2,007 money. You know what I mean? So Yeah. So, like, so it's...
So that that happened. Right? But I... My walkaway experience, nice as as the money was down the line, my walkaway experience leaving was... I I remember thinking this.
I'll say it again. I understand why Britney Spears is out of her mind because I felt so incredibly famous while they were doing that.
Oh, I bet.
Yeah. Just, like, ask, like, ask for water and, like, people run at you from all directions. Here, did you want water? And, like, oh, are you okay? Are you happy?
You look terrific. Like, every... Like, I didn't look terrific. That's ridiculous. You you know what I mean?
But I don't know how many people didn't tell me by the time I got up there to do it. I felt like I looked terrific. Like, it was just such... It was such a mind f, like, like, being treated so well. And it was...
And it came and went. It was gone. I mean, I'm fairly normal. You seem fairly normal. I didn't think about it for months afterwards or anything like that.
But now people are experiencing fame. Like, it's so crazy, isn't it? Like, how old are you?
37.
You're 37. It took you twenty six years to get on Jeopardy. Yep. Fewer people probably saw that and saw some girl's TikTok where she's bouncing her now.
Exactly. It's crazy.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I still found myself walking around, like, walking around the grocery store after it aired, like, somebody's gonna recognize me. No. Nobody nobody did. No one was like, oh, I just saw you on TV last night. No one.
But, you know, still, I thought, and it could happen.
I definitely... I know what you're I know what you're thinking. Like, I I really... I've been recognized just enough times to wonder in some situations, like, this gonna happen? Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's crazy. It's a crazy thing.
And it never has. Right? Like, so far, nobody has been like, oh my god. Do the girl from Jeopardy.
No. Not once. I mean, I'm really famous around my office building. There have been a couple people that I don't even work with who are like, oh my god. How did you do?
How was it? I saw you, and it's... You know, that's... That in and of itself has been kinda
I hear you.
Kinda nice. Okay. I'll take it.
Alright. No. Awesome. Did you get to take your family, or did you go by yourself?
A Solo Trip22:59
I went by myself. I wanted to take the family, but then we thought, that might not be the best idea with a... He was freshly three at that time with a three year old on, like, the most important night of my life, and I actually need to sleep. Maybe we don't do that.
So...... Decides to get up at three in the morning?
And... Exactly. Exactly. So we're like, mommy gets a solo trip. And, oh my god, the way that I starfished in that bed, I did what I wanted.
I ate what I wanted. It was great.
I just got back from a speaking thing, and people are always at the end of the day, they're like, are you gonna go out? I'm like, are you out of your mind? I'm like, none of my... No one's here. I'm going to bed.
I'm gonna go upstairs and I'm gonna go upstairs and be like, oh, listen. How quiet is Aaron? I'm gonna go to sleep. I'm sure my family's at home right now thinking the same thing. Thank god he's not here.
The place is so quiet.
I know. You do good and love somebody so much, but, man, it's nice to get a break from people sometimes. No kidding.
Diagnosed at Almost 1123:54
So how old were you when you're diagnosed?
I was almost 11. Not quite 11. Couple weeks shy of my eleventh birthday.
Do you have brothers or sisters?
Yep. I have, two sisters and a brother, and one of those sisters and the brother are also type one.
Oh, and your parents have multiple autoimmune issues, I imagine.
They have zero. How about,
like, aunts and uncles or grandparents?
It... Honestly, it came out of nowhere. I've got, you know, like, some type two on my dad's side, but type one is very... Until me, it was very, very foreign to us.
Well, what about...
I have no idea what we were dealing with.
Somebody must have celiac or Hashimoto's or something like that.
Not a thing. Would you believe it?
No. I mean, I believe you. I'm just... That's that's... And they made...
Four Kids, Three With Type 124:41
Wait. And they made four babies and three of them have diabetes?
Yeah. It's wild.
Oh, jeez. You can't get those
odds anywhere. I know. It's it's rough. People are like, you either need to play the lottery or never play the lottery.
Stay away from the road.
Yeah. Right.
You you were the first?
I was the first. Yeah. And then my, my sister was around the same age. I'm the oldest of four. Mhmm.
She was around my age when she was diagnosed, and then my brother was about 16. And come to find out after the fact, and, I mean, I'm not an expert, but what I read was, if you've got multiple siblings in a family with type one, typically, the boy is gonna be diagnosed a little older than the girls. Really?
Yeah. I wonder whether that happened. That's interesting. I'd I'd love to know more about that. I know you don't know, but sounds interesting.
So you grew up with a house full of diabetes, but, like, twenty years ago. Right?
The Sugar Siblings Group Chat25:36
Yeah. Yeah. And by the time my sister was diagnosed, I had moved out already. So I was in college. And and then my brother, I think I was even older, like, had graduated college without living on my own.
So we've got a, we have a sugar siblings group chat going that usually only consists of memes and guess what I was doing when I went low? And the answer is usually in the shower, on the toilet, or cleaning the house. So...
I just saw a a new YouTube channel, and I thought, what a brilliant simple idea. You know, those man on the street things where people, like, walk up to you when you're not expecting it and ask you something Yeah. Insane. This person just says, what's your group chat name? And I was like, oh, that
is That's good.
Brilliant. It's so simple and brilliant. Now a thousand people rip rip it off in the next week and a half. But Of course. But I was like, that's really a great idea because people's group chat names are, they're...
The one that stuck out with me is we... It... It's called, what it was it called? We have a light skinned friend who looks like Michael Jackson. That's what it was called.
And I was like, that was fantastic.
Amazing.
Then I started feeling a lot of pressure because, like, I have a group chat with Arden and Kelly, but it's called Spider Verse. And I'm like, that's not great. Too. Is it? I don't know.
And now... And my family group chat's called family, and now I feel completely in that.
Oh, yeah. Okay. You gotta work on that one, maybe.
Alright. So if... 20 ago... Arden was diagnosed twenty years ago, like, two thousand six ish, like, around then? Yeah.
Fifteen Years on MDI27:10
Okay. So you grew up with... Well, you started with what? Were you MDI? Did they give you a pump?
Oh, I was I was MDI for a long time.
How long?
I don't think I started on a pump until probably 2014, around there. After college? 2015. Yeah. After college....
College. Okay.
Yep. Yep. So fifteen, sixteen years with MDI. I... Part of it was my own stubbornness, like, as a young woman not wanting a thing attached to me.
Like, oh, I already... I have a purse. I can't just stick it in there. I don't want this on me. So, you know, part of it was me.
But I know I was yeah.
Were your expectations?
For a long time.
What were your expectations? Like, what were outcomes that you were shooting for?
With, with getting the pump?
No. With, like, your blood sugars. Like, were you
Oh, gosh. Just in general?
Yeah. Were you just, like, staying alive, or were you, like, looking for an a one c, or how did you measure?
An A1C Around 1328:10
Dude, I was a mess for a long time. I mean, when I was when I was really young, it was, like, trying to get under seven. I don't know if I ever did until relatively recently. I struggled for a while, like, pretending that I didn't have diabetes, which I'm sure a lot of teenage kids go through. I think my a one c at one point got up to 13, which...
How was I even functioning that way is is how I look back at it. But At
what age do you think that was?
The Doctor Who Made Her Cry28:43
Probably my, like, 15, 16, around there. And it stayed pretty elevated for a while, until I had a doctor in Atlanta who said, you know, if you're not gonna put the work in, I'm gonna drop you as a patient. And I cried in his office, and I got my shit together. That was all it took. I was like, you're not gonna drop me.
What are you talking about? I'm like, so used to excelling in everything else in life. And, I was like, I'm gonna prove you wrong. And I came in the next time, and my a one c had improved. And time and time again after that, I think by the time I left his practice and we moved, I had gotten it down to, like, a 6.5, and he could hardly believe it.
He kept apologizing to me. I'm sorry I made you cry. I I kept telling him, no. Thank you. Thank you for making me cry.
That was the wake up call I needed.
So not a thing you couldn't do. You think it's a thing you didn't wanna do because you were just doing the, like, I'll pretend this doesn't exist thing?
Oh, yeah.
And then
Oh, yeah. Go through the motions.
But then so how far into your diagnosis is the next one in your family? The next diagnosis?
It was about eight years. Eight or nine years.
Yeah. Which makes you 19. Put you in college. Yep. Okay.
I was gonna... But you had trouble before... So I'm gonna ask a question. I feel bad asking because I'm sure your mom No.
Don't feel bad.
Sure your mom and dad are lovely people. But how do your parents let your a ones... Maybe they're not... Maybe you're about to tell me, well, Scott, the problem was methamphetamines. But, like, you wouldn't be the first person to answer that way.
So, but but I'm gonna guess they were lovely people. And how do you have a 13 a one c when you have two parents?
I mean, it's easy to hide stuff from your parents when you're that age. Right? Like, how many kids go out to parties and get drunk and their parents don't know or can't do anything about it? So it's, you know, it's similar to that, just, like, playing with fire with my health. They...
Yeah. My parents are wonderful. And I... Like, to this day, I will never stop singing their praises. Like, three diabetic kids?
Are you kidding me? That's, like, every parent's worst nightmare, and they have handled it like champs. I mean, they'll probably... They would probably say otherwise, like, oh, we made so many mistakes, and we should have known, and we should have done this different. But, no, they're incredible, and they tried to drill it into me.
You know? This is important. You really gotta pay attention to this. This is your health. But, you know, at 14, 15, 16 years old,
I don't wanna listen
to that. I... You know, you think you're invincible at that age.
And... That simple? That you... They said that to you, an otherwise, like, bright energetic person who's accomplishing things who I imagine in other walks of life listen to their parents. Right?
Like, so you're just like, I don't wanna do this?
Yeah. Like, ugh. It's too hard. I don't want to.
Are you able to have enough hindsight to tell me how that could happen?
Retinopathy and Two Vitrectomies31:38
I I think a lot of it is... I was just really stubborn. And it's one of those unfortunate situations where you don't know what you don't know, and you don't know where your life is gonna end up. I'm, you know, I'm... Unfortunately, I'm one of those people that wound up with complications relatively early because I did all that.
You know? It was like it... In hindsight, it it wasn't smart, and I probably should have bucked up and buckled down. I, I wound up with retinopathy. I had to have two vitrectomies, like, five years ago, in both eyes.
And luckily, everything is stable now, and I can see. But, like, the number of... Like, you don't think you're gonna have to have injections into your eyeball. Like, that type of stuff. It's horrible.
Until suddenly, you're sitting on the couch one night, and you can't read on your phone because the text is all wavy. And you're like, oh, no. This is the thing. This is the thing they kept warning me about that I kept saying it's not gonna happen to me. Yeah.
What's what's that feel like when you're on the sofa and you say, oh, twenty years ago, I ignored somebody who tried to stop this from happening to me. Like, do you have... Like, how do you reckon with all that?
It's a... I've come to terms with it now, but it was... At the moment, it was a weird kind of panicky, anxious, oh my god. Can I rewind? Like, they were they were right the whole time.
Oh, my doctors knew what they were talking about? Like, crazy. Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's a weird thing.
And and now I've kinda come to terms with, you know, like... Again, it co... For me goes back to, unfortunately, I made the same type of silly teenage mistakes that a lot of kids that age make, except mine have way more serious consequences. And also have told myself and in conversation with a few of my doctors, it also might not have been my fault. It...
Maybe it wasn't avoidable. Some people, you know, at the point that they've been dealing with this for twenty years, there are just... Things are gonna go off the rails, and everybody's story is different. The important thing is at that point, I was paying attention, and I knew something was wrong. And I went and took care of it.
So I'm sitting here still, like, able-bodied and able to see and able to carry on with my life just like I was before versus maybe not being as in tune with myself and Yeah. Letting that go too and then not not being able to carry on.
Tell me while you're holding those two perspectives, which are both interesting to think about. Like, when you're holding them, how do you stop yourself from going to the, it's not my fault and just go right back to it? Like like, obviously, it's... This coulda happened to anybody. It happened to me and and what was me, and I I drew short straw, like, that kind of stuff.
Like, how do you... Because that... That's not your attitude now. Right?
No. Not at all.
Yeah. But how did I mean how did you choose that path?
Feeling Good for the First Time34:41
Well, I... A lot of it started with that doctor that kicked me in the can and said, get your act together. And then once I did get my act together, I realized, oh, wait. Like, my default doesn't have to be feeling like trash all the time. I can actually feel healthy and good.
And ever since then, I've been, like, on this, like, a health crusade with myself. And I... Now I know what it feels like to feel good. So that kinda helps me put it into perspective. And it's like, okay.
I... Yeah. It might not have been my fault, but it also probably was to some degree. And it's well within my control now to do what I need to do to not get to that point again. And, yeah, it's like, it's not perfect.
I mean, my blood sugar right now is sitting at, like, two thirty, and I'm trying to get it down. I'm like, oh, I had one too many cough drops. But, like, I've accepted there's only so much I can do, and there is a lot in my control. And what is in my control if I do the best that I can, even if it's not perfect Yeah. Then I'm okay with it.
Like, I've I've come to terms with that.
That's a lot of insight. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Do you...
Interesting. I don't know. Are you kidding me? It's a podcast for people with type one diabetes. You imagine if I didn't ask you about this?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Ridiculous. I mean, I've got episodes where I've forgotten people had diabetes because their stuff was so interesting. So while this is happening to you, are your siblings having similar or different experiences with diabetes?
Her Siblings36:11
I would say theirs are theirs are somewhat similar. They've also... I think all three of us have really struggled with, like, how do I deal with this? And I don't want to. All three of us have definitely gone through periods where we can't get our high blood sugars under control.
My, like, my little brother, and I'm sure he wouldn't mind me talking about this. Ian, if you do care, sorry, but I'm doing it anyway. Like, he had a really scary low experience that then it became difficult for him to overcome not overtreating and keeping himself intentionally elevated because he was so afraid of having a really, really severe low again. So, yeah, I I think we've all struggled in our own way.
That's very common and incredibly understandable.
Yeah. Except... For sure. I mean, you're like, I'm literally dying. I don't wanna feel like that again.
Right. Until someone comes up to you and goes, hey. I know why you can't see and everything looks blurry, and then you think, well, maybe I should have taken a different shot at this. Yeah. It's...
It it... I mean, the idea of, like, could I get a time machine, please,
is Honestly.
Yeah. I I do I do take your point. Like, not that some kids don't go out and drink and cliff dive or something like that. But, like, for the most part, what you're saying is, like, you know, the things you do as a kid, you sometimes mostly get away with them, they don't have some long lasting impact
on Exactly. Exactly.
And this was always going to. You just have no way to know it at the time. So so question... I mean, I... If I can just, like, call myself out before I do it, but, like, ham fisted dumb question that I probably shouldn't even ask you.
What Would Have Helped at 1637:52
Right? It's like, what do you... Like, is there something that that 16 year old version of you could have heard that would have helped?
Oh my god. Yes. No. That's not a dumb question at all.
Okay.
I think that's that's the thing for me growing up is I didn't have... Not to, like, toot my own horn, but I didn't have a me to look at. Like, I didn't have a role model in another type one person. I... Part of that, again, my fault, I kinda shut myself off, and I thought, well, I don't I didn't even wanna go to camp.
Like, you know, the different camps around the country for for kids with diabetes, I thought, I don't I don't wanna be with a bunch of other kids who are sick. Like, no. I wanna feel normal. So there was nobody that I really looked to. And, also, for what it's worth, like, social media didn't exist when I was that young.
I think Twitter was just starting when I started college, so, there wasn't this
Like, what?
Slew of influencers online to look to too and say, oh my god. There's so many of us out here, and we're all having, like, a similar lived experience. And that's part of why it's been so important for me now that I'm older and have kinda gone through the ups and downs of all of this. Like, I want to be that type of a role model for other people. I mean, first and foremost, for my siblings, to be there for them as they're going through stuff that I've already been through, to know that they have somebody they can lean on and talk to, but also for especially kids, that I haven't met.
The things that meant the most to me, even even after the Jeopardy thing, were the parents that reached out and said, oh my god. My daughter saw you on TV, and she couldn't believe there was somebody that looked like her on there. Or, you know, my my son realized that he could do something like that too, and he didn't think that he could. And, like, those are the types of things that mean the most to me. So I I think if younger me had had that sort of role model and had type one been more visible in that way and not something that I felt like I had to hide, probably a totally different story.
So maybe in a world where you already feel inadequate, not you, but people Yeah. Already feel inadequate, Maybe, like, you're, you know, pretending as you get through life, which I think most people feel. Right? Because you don't have enough experience to even judge yourself. So you just think everything you think to do sounds impossible.
Mhmm. And then someone drops a medical issue on top of you, a medical issue that can make you pass out, make you die, make you have long term consequences. Like, you just... You start picking the... What the lesser of evils in every decision and then...
And going with, like, I ignored it today and I didn't die. That must mean I can ignore this. Yeah. Yeah.
Thyroid Cancer at 1240:33
For sure. For sure. And, like, also, curveball that I haven't mentioned yet, a year after my diagnosis, I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer. So I had that to worry about too.
Oh, when you were when you were 12?
Yeah.
Is there cancer in your family?
Of course not. No. I I went to a routine endo visit, and he was, you know, like, palpating my neck, and I was like, that's not supposed to be there.
So Awesome.
Yeah. Was like, great. Cool. As if this year hasn't been enough, let's let's add this to the list. So Jesus.
Yeah. I... It... But that complicated it because then it's, okay. I need to focus on this and, like, diabetes is gonna take a backseat because, also, it's this new boogeyman that I just, like, got this a year ago, and now I need to ignore it.
Yeah. Now you have a more pressing issue. Yeah. And you... There's only so many things you can do at one time.
Exactly.
Alright. Did you have the tools? Meaning, if you want to take that kind of care of yourself back then, would you have known how to do it?
R and NPH41:39
To a degree, yes. But the way that the tech has evolved, I don't think I could get anywhere close to where I am today. I mean, when I was first diagnosed, it was... I was on R and NPH insulin, and I had to mix them together. Like, I remember rolling the vials in my hand and having to eat the exact same thing at the exact same time and, like, carb exchanges, which I I don't even remember what all of this stuff is half the time.
Wait. In 2006?
In 2000.
2000. I'm sorry. That's where
my my math was better.
Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, so so much of the stuff that we have now, I mean, it just wasn't a thing. I mean, I think I was checking my blood sugar three, four times a day max because it was only... You only needed to do it if you felt off or if you were gonna eat something. So I had no insight into what was happening for most of the day.
And now... Yeah. I... So so all that to say, like, I I just... I don't think I get any...
Get anywhere close to where we are And I work in data now, and so having access to twenty four seven health data, and I can see what my blood sugar is every five minutes and fine tune insulin adjustments is, like, it's a game changer compared to what it was.
Looking Up Life Expectancy43:00
Big deal. Are you mad, or am I gonna be the first one to point out to you that you were just... You happen to be diagnosed in the latter part of the treatment time that said, hey. Maybe we can get these people into their fifties before they die. And that had you been had you been diagnosed four or five years later, someone would have given you, like, Lantus and Levemir and more of an expectation.
I I wouldn't say I'm mad. No. Because I think at that time, was too young. Maybe my parents might be mad. But at that point, I was too young to really understand fully all of it, and I don't even remember them giving any sort of a prognosis.
But, like, I've definitely had moments over the years, and my husband's had to talk me off a cliff where I'll just... For fun or it's, like, sadistic pleasure. I don't know. It will, like, Google, what's the average life expectancy of a a woman with type one? And I'll freak out because it's younger than I want it to be.
And he's like, okay. But you have to remember that data is based on people that have already passed, and the tech even now compared to where it was five years ago is helping you live longer. And so it's, like, okay. Yes. And he he kinda brings me back down to earth.
But
I mean, I I don't know. You shouldn't be listening to me. But, actually, none of you should be, but whatever.
Well, makes click.
No. Here we are. So what are you gonna do? But, sorry. You shouldn't listen to me, but I think if your eyes stay stable, you probably won't see any big problems moving forward.
That's my working theory.
Yeah.
Honestly, I... My my completely nonmedically based working theory is if if it's already hit one system, the other ones are probably good as long as you're taking care of yourself to the degree that you need to. So, yeah, I'm I'm I'm on board with that.
You're rocking a seven. Is that what you said? Like,
Right now? No. It's closer to, a... I've gotten it down to... When I was pregnant, I got it down to a five six, but not...
Lately, these days, closer to six two. K. I'm happy.
Kaylea, I'm have to...
Very happy that....
Pregnancy45:08
Have to ask you the question. How come you could do it when you're pregnant? You can't do it now.
Oh my god. Pregnancy is, like, a miracle. It's a miracle. It... First trimester, awful.
Third trimester, awful. I was taking three times as much insulin as I was used to. But that second trimester, like, hit that sweet spot, there were days where I don't even remember bolusing. It's like your your body suddenly is working the way that you want it to.
Yeah. But
you And I obviously knew I was still diabetic, but
Right.
I didn't need as much insulin.
But... So what's the difference between now and then? Like, are you
just Snacks. I I like snacks too much. I didn't think that's what you were... I really didn't think that's what you're
gonna say.
Scott, snacks are always the problem. No. I don't have a, I don't have another human being inside my body producing his own insulin and me reaping some of the benefits.
Did it make you feel ashamed if you did poorly while the baby was in there?
Oh my god. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was another where Hubs had to talk me off the cliff.
Anytime my blood sugar shot way up, it was this panic game of rage bolusing to get it back down, and then I'd go low. And, yeah, I thought, oh, no. I'm gonna damage our kid forever, but, nope, he's perfect and healthy.
The Pro Tip Series46:25
Have you ever listened to the Pro Tip series for my podcast?
No. But I need to.
Why don't you try that? I... Also Oh,
I will. Please. I mean do it.
I think you could... You have the right intellect, motivation, situation. You could you could you could do that. It's not that... I gotta be honest with you.
It's not that hard. It's just a... It's a lot of putting the right effort in the right spots is kind of the way I think about it. Also, what are you in automated? You have an automated system now?
Yeah. Yeah. I do. Do you find... I'm looping.
Oh, okay. And do you have... Do you consider your insulin needs average? Are they light light for your weight? Or are
they say lower than average now. Okay. I, yeah. I mean, after after pregnancy, I also started on, one
of the GLP ones. I was... Yeah. Yep. Yeah.
Look at you. We're all Yep.
That's the
By the way, if this is bad for us, you guys won't have to wait for AI to kill us all because everyone's using it. So, like, if this ends up being bad, we're all just gonna disappear.
I mean, it's fine. We're... The apocalypse is nigh. It's fine. Yeah.
No. I mean, that's that stuff... It... It's like... It's amazing.
GLP and 100 Pounds47:36
That's But that's another one where I thought, oh, no. This is all my fault. I gained all this weight. I can't get it off. My doctor's like, dude, you have tried for a year to get this off and to not be as resistant to insulin.
You've been diabetic twenty five years. Stop. Like, stop fighting it. Stop fighting biology. Try this.
Were you you enough. You were hard you were hard to talk into it?
I was.
She I don't think I'm head first. I was
like He... I don't blame people that do. My endo told me before I got pregnant, he's like, no. I I really wanna put you on this. And I said, no.
No. No. Let me try to do it on my own. Again, I'm stubborn. And, no.
I tried for a year. Didn't work. He put me on Ozempic, and I lost, like, 20 pounds in a couple months. Immediately got pregnant. And, then as soon as the pregnancy was over and and my son was weaned, it was like, alright.
Game on. Let's go. And I've I've lost over a 100 pounds. Oh. And I feel...
I mean, on top of it, I feel amazing, and I'm using, like, so little insulin. It's crazy.
Can I ask a question that sounds
Yes, please?
Do you think that losing the weights would help you get on to Jeopardy eventually? I mean, it could be.
I mean, right? I've I've thought it. I've thought it.
Yeah. I've been wondering myself. My favorite story... We've been on, like, GLPs for, three and a half years. And my my favorite story is just day one.
Like, we brought it home on a Thursday. And my wife is, like, out loud in the kitchen talking to me about, I'm gonna start it over the weekend. And I was like Uh-huh. I I... As she's saying, I was, like, jamming at my side.
She's she's like, you're just gonna randomly start it. I'm like, yep.
Might as well. Let's Today's the day.
Go. So I've... I'm probably down... At some point, I had lost 70 pounds.
That's awesome.
It was awesome. Thank you. And at the same time, I don't think I'm down 70 pounds now. I think it's... Oh, hold on.
36. One thirty seven. Twenty three four fifty. I think I'm down, like, 55 or 60 now. But there was a there was a moment when I thought, like...
When I was at 70, was like, This is how I'm supposed to look in clothing. But without without clothing, I thought, I feel like I might look a little thin, but with extra skin around my midsection. Uh-huh. And then and then my... And then...
And I was like, okay. Like, I'm gonna have to build myself back up, and I... And that's when it hit me. Like, the number now that I'm... I'm gonna use words that three years ago, we couldn't say out loud, but god bless this country.
It's moving back in the other direction again. I'm allowed to say this again. I was fat. Okay? And, like...
And so, like... So when I was down to seventy pounds, I was like, this is how I'm supposed to look, but I'm not strong enough now. I'm not gonna worry about the number anymore. The numbers now... Now that I'm not fat, the number's not important.
It's body composition that's important. Yes. Yeah. The Exactly. The number lost its importance when the fat went away.
Exactly. No. I had the same experience. I think at one point, was down, like, one twenty, and I had I had the same thought. I'm like, I might be a little...
I'm a little too thin. I need to... Yeah. So... And I've rebounded a little bit.
Let me apologize to everybody who feels like they just went through Groundhog Day. I did have to start that sentence twice to get to the end of my thought, and I apologize for that. But let's just say at least I knew it was happening. So There you go. But, yeah, that that that was really interesting when I realized the number wasn't important.
But Oh, yeah.
But the number was monumentally important when I weighed two hundred and thirty six pounds.
Are you kidding? Is that where you started? Because that's the exact same place I started.
236.
236.
59.
510.
Okay. And now I'm Yep. I think this morning, I'm 174.
Yeah. I'm, like, I'm, like, 01:31, something like that.
Kelly's Weight Loss51:20
I I... It's my it's my wife's story to tell, and she is gonna come on the podcast probably in the beginning of 2027 for the way you guys listen to it to to talk about it. So I don't wanna give away how much weight my wife has lost, but I will tell you when we're done recording.
Oh, okay. Yeah. Big reveal.
It's... I didn't wanna curse. It's insane. It's absolutely absolutely insane. Like, there...
I swear she walks in the room, and I don't know it's her sometimes. She went to some European country, Finland, maybe. Yes. Because I kept make... I kept making I kept texting her and going, hey.
Are you finished for the day? Oh, no. I'm so sorry. Just terrible. She was in...
She... Anyway, she comes home. I pick her up at the airport. I go in. I don't know about the rest of you scumbags.
I don't wait outside in the car. Okay? I come in, and she's coming down this ramp through, like, customs and everything. And my god. I must have watched her walk for 20 feet before I knew it was my wife.
Wow.
I was like...
With the heart in your eyes. Of course.
Oh, well, I was like, oh, I'm gonna hit on this woman if this... If my... If if Kelly doesn't come. Right? But but, seriously, as she got closer and closer to me, I was like, oh my god.
That's Kelly. No idea.
That's amazing.
Yeah. Good. It's absolutely insane. But I was gonna say the same thing. So what are you on?
You're still on the Ozempic?
Mounjaro now.
I was gonna say you make the leap. Right? Sorry. Novo Nordisk. You'll catch up again.
And... Yeah. So... But but... Yeah.
So what do you... How much do you use now?
I'm on the 12.5 now.
Me too.
Tried to, tried to wean it off, but We're GLP. Is the this is the sweet spot.
Yeah. We're GLP sisters. And
Twins. Yeah.
Yeah. Absolutely. I, I I I like when people like, isn't that a lot? I'm like, I don't know what you even... I don't care what you mean.
Just be perfect. Right. So do you It's working.
You agree with me, my statement. I have two statements about GLP I'll make over and over again. Mhmm. I think we should just drop it out of airplanes on people. The first thing.
Yes. And secondly, if I grew a horn out of the middle of my head that said Eli Lilly on it, I would just wrap Christmas lights around it. I'd be like honestly at this point. I mean, seriously, like, come on. What an awesome gift to the world.
Yeah. And these, these peptides. I don't wanna be a person who says peptides a lot. But I'm I'm watching... Trying to watch one for endometriosis called endo two zero five that I'm really hopeful, like, makes it, like, kind of far because in...
I think they're moving to humans now, but in mouse not in mouse... I'm gonna get this all wrong. So you guys Google it yourself. Okay? But it feels like this is a peptide that basically tells the endometriosis cell to kill itself, and it just goes.
Woah. Okay. And that's it. So Wow. You're gonna change a lot.
So my very best friends are dealing with that, so that would be incredible.
Horrible. We think Yeah. My... We think my daughter's dealing with it right now. We're about to find out.
Two days, we're going to an appointment, actually.
Oh, man.
It's just horrifying. Never... Nevertheless. Okay. So siblings have diabetes.
How the Community Found Her54:29
You have diabetes. You go on Jeopardy. How does the diabetes community find out you're on Do you do the thing? Are you like, hey, everybody. Like, are you on the Facebook or...
What do you do? I
didn't do the thing actually. People did the thing for me because they saw my pod and my Dexcom on my arms on the show.
Okay.
And they were like, oh my god. A diabetic. And and then other people sent it to me or I was in the groups, and I, you know, sheepishly raised his hand. No. It's me.
Hi.
That's me.
Nice to meet you. Tell me. Yeah. People people did the thing, and it was really rewarding.
I'm sorry. I cut you off. I apologize. I had a thought.
No. You're good.
But I was gonna say, tell me about the decision to wear your gear where it can be seen when you're on television because you must have thought about hiding it. You must have thought about hiding it. So...
Wearing Devices on Purpose55:14
You know, didn't actually. Why? Ever since I've really buckled down with this, I intentionally wear my devices in really visible places because I want it to prompt a conversation, and I want it to feel normal to people. Like, I could be walking down the street and somebody see the pod or or or my Dexcom now, and they're like, oh my god. Me too.
Like, I've I've made friends that way. I've made a couple friends here at work that way. We just found each other on the elevator. And even people who aren't living with diabetes have asked me questions about it. Like, all ages too.
I was, funny enough, I was walking around Disneyland when... Before I taped the show, and somebody came up and started a conversation with me. And we just kinda walked around Main Street talking about diabetes. And on the flip side, I've been dropping my son off at his daycare and, you know, his little, like, 3.5 year old friends. What's that on your arm?
And, like, you know, I get to tell them in a way that makes sense to a toddler what it is. So, no, I... Yeah. I do it on purpose. So for me, it was...
And also, I didn't feel like changing out my sites. I already had them on my arms.
So I
was like, oh, here it is. This is this is what you get.
And I'll ask a cynical question. Did you ever think it'll get me, like... I don't know. Like, it'll be a benefit to me for people to see it?
Honestly, mean, the thought entered my mind, but at the end of the day, it really came down to, like, I'm just gonna do me. Yeah. This is who I am, and this is what I'm gonna do. And I... Luckily, there were only...
Everybody says don't read comments about yourself online, but I had to. There were only a couple people that said something negative about it. And and then my best friend went on a crusade to to shut those people down, which was also hilarious.
Blocking a Commenter57:01
You can just block them. You know? I... On Saturday night this week... Past weekend, I think I got a a a very aggressive, unpleasant comment on one of the social medias.
And I was like, oh, oh, look. An insane person. And then I I I I I I blocked that person. And I don't do Oh, yeah. I don't do a lot of blocking, but I'm not gonna get involved in, like, some, like, long drawn out conversation with your crazy ass.
So, like, you know, like, I mean, if you wanna ask me a question, like, feel free to ask me a question. Don't come at me, act all aggressive, and then, like, be...
Exactly.
So anyway, I blocked crazy person, said crazy person. By the way, I don't know if they're actually crazy. I just wanna say that. It just felt that way to me. That's fair.
And but eight seconds later, that person is now messaging me from someone else's account to tell me Oh. I can't believe you blocked me. And I thought, well, this is a fairly good indicator that I've done the right thing.
And Uh-huh.
And then I blocked that account only to wake up... By the way, when you say, like, oh, I I... Well, I'd love to have a podcast where people knew me. Keep this in mind when you're wishing. Okay?
Then I wake up the next day to an email from that person, which I just... I send to spam. And then the fall... Then later that day, I get a message from that person's sibling telling me... I was like, oh my god.
You're all crazy.
That's awesome. I haven't Oh, yeah.
I haven't cared about anything that much in my entire life, by the way, to put that much effort into something. And it's Yeah. That's wild. And it's over something so outside of anyone's control that it's it's really kind of fascinating to me. So may I share the rest of it with you?
Oh, yeah.
I used... You're gonna be... This is gonna probably really surprise you. It's 2026. I used an image made by AI in my social media, and that person attacked me on two different platforms and through three different...
And two different email systems about this, which got me super interested in one thing, which was which one of us used more AI in this scenario? And it turns out that person......
AI on us.
Yeah. Well, that person used five times as much AI as I did to make the photo to tell me that AI wasn't a good idea.
Brilliant. So
you... So here's what I learned. A day of average scrolling on Instagram uses more AI than than the average creator using AI to make content for Instagram.
Wow.
Yeah. And Good morning. And Facebook has sunk some multiple billions and billions of dollars into AI. So when you're on Facebook complaining about AI, the calls come in from inside the building. You you know what I mean?
Like, you are literally the person using the AI. And I'm like, well, I mean, not for nothing. If everyone stopped, everyone wouldn't be using as much of it. That's not my point. But my point is, as, I believe...
Was it Dr. Dre? Who said, no. Was it Ice-T? Was Ice-T. Don't hate the player.
Hate the game. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. I...
This ain't my fault. Okay? I can make content without it. And guess what? The algorithm doesn't serve it to you.
So I didn't do it. Leave me alone. Also...
Yeah. Seriously.
Oh my god. Anyway, so you had a couple of crazies, and these crazies were saying what to you?
Comments About Her Arms1:00:34
Just a couple. And the the funny thing is they weren't even saying it to me. It was like they were talking about me as if I was not a real person on some other post in some group somewhere, but it was like, oh, that's so inappropriate for her to wear those on her arms. Why doesn't she cover her arms up? Nobody needs to see that.
And I thought, well, who do you think you are? What do you mean it's inappropriate?
Were those people...
Inappropriate how?
Those people are not, like, attached or tangentially attached to diabetes. They were just randos that didn't want
Just randos. Yeah. You know, it was like a Jeopardy fan group. Somebody had asked what are... What what are those two white things on Kaylea's arms?
And other people were responding, and, yeah, then these these people came out of the woodwork. And luckily, there were enough others in there to shut them down and be like, I mean, is it inappropriate for, you know, a quadriplegic to be in a wheelchair? Like, are you joking?
Not on Jeopardy.
Like, what? How dare she do that?
I mean, maybe I'm...
I'm sorry. I personally offended all of you.
Kelly, maybe Card Sharks or Wheel of Fortune or something like that, but not not in Jeopardy. It's ridiculous.
Certainly not Jeopardy.
Survivor, Big Brother and Wheel1:01:43
Do you have the bug to try to get on other game shows? And do you think that I should try to get on... You know what I think I'd be great at? Survivor.
Which one?
I think I'd be great. If... And here's the two things holding me back in Survivor. I'm too old, and I wouldn't be able to do the physical challenges. But if you just put me in the scenario where we were doing this, like, think I'd kill it on Big Brother.
Oh, yeah. That would be a good one. I mean, honestly, you don't have to be able to do the physical challenges in survivor either. There are plenty of people that... I mean, like, look at look at, like, the first couple seasons with Saree.
She's a freaking legend. She couldn't do the physical challenges at first.
But nowadays You
got this?
They weed out the old people pretty quick.
They do. They do.
You know? But I def... I could kill it. Like, anything that was, like, psychosocial, I think I would do well at.
Oh, yeah.
For sure. Yeah. I know I'm...
I would agree with that....
Busy making a podcast.
Survivor is my dream too, and it's funny. I I did a presentation for my twenty fifth anniversary of diabetes. I did a presentation here at work to tell people about my journey and all that. And I said the only thing on this earth that I cannot do right now is compete on survivor, and I, like, did a crude Photoshop of my face over one of the contestants' bodies and, like, this is this is my dream. The second they cure diabetes, I'm applying for that show.
But I do... Yeah. Oh, I definitely have the bug. I joked with my friends that I now wanna make game shows my personality. So, my mom and I are planning to try out for Wheel of Fortune, and I don't know.
I'll take what I can get. It was a lot of fun.
My wife and I would kill an Amazing Race. Do they still make that?
I think so.
Yeah. Our...
I mean, shoot. That's won so many Emmys. I'm sure they still make that
one. Our personalities are so, like, opposite but perfect to cover the entire need of that show. But Done. Yeah. I'm busy.
You should apply.
Busy. Busy. Busy. What am I gonna do?
Well, was lucky you were talking earlier about what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do when you retire from podcasting? There it is.
I... I'm gonna go on the Amazing Race.
Amazing race.
Like, why does the guy get up so slow? What's happening there?
Problem
solved. Well, I think for sure, Big Brother should do, like, an influencer, like, version. I could be the old person. Wouldn't that be fantastic? Big Brother's a fantastic show.
It is good. Although I don't eat things, like, so no. I won't eat anything yucky. I just wanna say that right now.
I mean, you'd you'd have that issue on survivor too.
I know, but I wouldn't do it. I'd I'd be like, kick me out. It's fine.
Fine. Do it.
Yeah. Fine. So you're gonna you're gonna... You you and your mom are gonna try for Wheel of Fortune?
I mean, hopefully. Yeah.
How do you do that?
I think... So she's done it before. I think you just kinda send your name in and hope that they call you. And there's some component of, like, a video interview type of thing. But there were...
I think there was at least one of us in our our, green room crew on taping day for Jeopardy that had also competed on wheels. So there's a chance it could happen.
You should try to get into a MrBeast video too.
Oh, okay. I'm gonna add that to the list.
Could do It's a good idea. What are you? Busy? I mean, it sounds like it sounds like you'll be doing this, so you might as Yeah. This
is my this is my personality now.
One Kid Is Enough1:04:53
You got the one kid?
Yep. Just the one.
No more or we're good or you want more? Where are at with that?
We are we are good. That was... I... Look. He's 3.5 now.
I slept on his bedroom floor for about five hours last night. Like, I'm I'm tapped out at one.
That's enough. We did it. Yeah. Yeah. This one's enough.
You have the, like, nieces, nephews?
Yeah. I've got two nephews. They're they're also pretty young. 4.5 and 1.5.
Okay. Alright. And your husband's good with one?
He's good with one. You know, we we started...
Oh, and
you know what? I have a... And then a niece on the other side too, and she's, oh, is she two? 2.5? Any...
In any case, yeah, he's he's good with one. We started out wanting four, and then we thought, maybe maybe three. And then it went down to two, and then we had the one, and and we're good with one.
So you... I wanna be clear. You wanted four children, but after you had the experience of having a child, you were like, I don't... Since we can't return this one, we'll just stop here. Is that...
I... Yeah. I'm like, dude, this this kid sent. That my boss jokes. She she said she also has...
Why mess with perfection? I'm like, hey. You're right.
Yeah. That's what you... Why? That's definitely what you tell yourself. Also
He's great.
Money aside, I've... The money... You can't put the money aside. I mean... It's so expensive.
It's so expensive.
Who is doing this? The first time you buy something you don't want and you realize you would not have spent that same amount of money on something you did want, you're like, oh my god. Is this what I put myself in for?
It's tragic.
Oh my goodness.
The the berry budget alone. I'm like, I would never spend this much money on blueberries. Why are we doing that?
Did you say berries?
Oh, yeah.
Why does your son eat so many berries, do you think?
Oh, no. He's, like, feral for fruit. I said blueberries, strawberries, like... Oh.
I can't...
I know they're expensive.
Feral for Fruit1:06:40
I can't believe that I have to call this episode this is jeopardy because it actually fits in so many aspects of your story, depending on where you put the emphasis. But I would love to call it feral for fruit. I just... I'm not gonna be able to do
Oh, you think it bar... Borrow it for something else.
That's amazing. He's feral for fruit. Well, listen. I'm with you. You don't have a dog, do you?
No. A cat. But...
You sound like a smart person that doesn't have a dog.
Not not yet. Yeah. Not yet.
I have a dog.
I'm sure a dog will enter the picture at
So some let me tell you a sad story. Our dog passed away last week.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Basil1:07:16
You're very nice. We had two dogs at the time, and our older dog Basil passed away. He's... If you're, like, a long time listeners of the podcast, Basil was, like, the dog you heard, like, snoring in the background, like, in early episode. He was 12.
He just made it to his twelfth birthday in a couple more weeks. So Aw. It's very sad. I... Don't...
Please don't get me wrong. I'm just trying not to make this sad. I'm trying to tell you that, like, you know, paces away. It's terrible. You know, it's days after he's gone, and I have to admit, like, I walked downstairs in the morning and I thought, oh, it's such a relief not to have to worry about an older dog.
And Yeah. It's kinda nice. We have a younger dog. He's, like, 18 old, and he's fine and everything and blah blah blah. And I thought this is really nice.
And then not that he's dead. I just wanna be clear. Also Oh, yeah. Also, he was he was blind. He couldn't hear, and there's a real argument to be made that, you know, it was his time.
So...
Yeah. What's what's the quality of life at that point?
Not happy he's gone. I am happy he's not struggling.
There you go.
Then these women that live in my house start texting me puppy pictures. Like, Uh-oh. Twenty four seven they come to me. Look at this one. What about the colors on this?
I'm like, what are we doing? And I thought we were joking at first. I'm like, say, I pull my wife aside. I go, woah. Woah.
Woah. What's happening? Stop. Stop. Everybody stop.
You gotta put the kibosh on this. Like, I can't be... Don't make me the bad guy. She's definitely gonna make me the bad guy, by the way. I'm like, don't make me the bad guy.
And, like, now there's, like... It was... There was crying at one point. People were like, I just think the dog's lonely. I'm like, the dog's fine.
He looks fine. Like...
No. He needs a friend.
No. Apparently, I I heard that the dog needs a friend. I'm like, I need a friend. Like, I I I need time off. Like, I I...
Me. What about me? No one cares about me. I learned that pretty early on in the conversation. So, anyway Oh, no.
I I say one kid, no dog. You're beautiful. You can move around the country. You can go on vacation. You can afford things.
You know? A friend can come over and, like, kick some food, a cat every couple days if you go somewhere. Ugh. So much better. Yeah.
You know what a kennel cost? Don't look into it. Make you upset.
I don't wanna know.
Yeah. Good for you. I love you. Why are you and I getting along so well? Where are you from?
Did you say Florida or Atlanta?
Not originally. I've moved around. Upstate New York, then Atlanta, now Florida.
New York. That's why we get along. Yeah. Okay. Alright.
Anything I have not asked you that I should have?
I don't think so. I mean, we've covered a wide array.
Do you feel like we have? See, you are perfect for me. Let me just go over a couple reasons why.
You're welcome.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, also thank you. You're quick witted. You can hold up your end of the conversation, and you're really good at ping pong, like verbal ping pong.
Okay. So there's no pauses in between. Like, you are... Like, you're not pausing to think. Like, you know what you think.
You, like, get it out quickly. You're thoughtful when you need to be. It... This episode feels like it's ninety minutes long to me right now. And I just looked up, and we've only been talking for an hour.
And I mean that Yeah. Not like, oh god. This feels like it's going on forever. I mean, I feel like we jammed a lot into it.
Yeah. I agree. No. It's been like a very natural conversation.
Yeah. Well, you're a fantastic conversationalist. You're very good. Thank you. Oh, please.
Going Viral on Instagram1:10:45
Have you done any other things like this?
No. I haven't. I mean, I did a... I did an interview with Beyond Type 1 that they published on their blog. But...
Yeah. No one reads. So...
Yeah. People don't know how to read anymore. We have AI. What do you need to read for?
It'll read it for you. And then Exactly. And then it'll tell you how to use a peptide to make you feel better. It's gonna be a... It's gonna be fantastic.
You're gonna... One day, you're just gonna tell it. You're gonna be like, hey, buddy. My toe hurts, and it'll be like, and they'll just tell you what's wrong. It's gonna be awesome.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, Beyond Type 1 did it. That's nice of them. That was lovely.
I I joke. I'm sure people read. I'm not... I mean, I don't. But...
People do occasionally, maybe.
Did you get response from that?
No. I'll tell you what. It actually went crazy. They posted it on their Instagram, and it it... I don't know.
It's just bizarre to me. Like, oh, it's been seen over a million times. What is that?
It's exciting.
Why do people care so much? It's just me.
It's just... But it's exciting now.
Yeah. It's very exciting. It is. No. It's it's flattering.
It's flattering. And and same thing there. It's like I've had people reach out and wanna chat, wanna connect. I've got... You know, I have my my little public Instagram going where I'm trying to be a a voice for good when it comes to to diabetes and also probably way too much Pilates content, but, you know, here we are.
Good for you. That's awesome. I think the people in my Facebook group, like, hit me hard with you. They were like, like, Scott, like, I gotta tagged a lot. They're like, she was on Jeopardy with diabetes.
I'm like, oh, I'm like, okay. Hold on. Everybody slow down. I'll get a hold of Calm down. Yeah.
It's like, it's happening. I mean, yesterday, it was Katie Beth Hand was on, like, her local news or something or, like, on, like Okay. And my god. Like, I I always wanna jump back in the Facebook group and go, hey. Has anyone noticed that that woman from that trial was on news?
Because it feels... There's, a thousand posts about it to the point where you, like, start... Like, you go, like, hey. I'm gonna take your post down because the whole group is about this one thing. Right.
But you had that vibe for a couple days. People like, there was a girl on Jeopardy. She had type one diabetes. So you really... So I think you did what you set out to do by having your devices on.
My question is is always
For sure.
Did did Ken ask you about it? Like, was it in your bio, or did it just go unspoken?
Did Ken Ask About It?1:13:02
No. He didn't ask me about it. No. He... My my question was about my coworkers throwing me a Jeopardy themed baby shower, actually.
But, no, nothing about the diabetes.
And they had a bunch of information about you. Their producers picked that to be, like, your little talk up thing.
The Turkey Call1:13:19
Yeah. You you give them, like... I think it was five. You give them five little anecdotes that they can choose from. I actually don't know if any of mine were were diabetes related, but I will tell you I was disappointed that I couldn't think of a good enough backstory for the one that I wanted them to pick because I'm...
Clearly, I'm a goofball, and I have no shame. The older I get, the less embarrassed I I could possibly be. And my one was that I can sound like a turkey. And my sister said, are you sure you wanna tell them that? Because you might have to sound like a turkey on national television.
And I said, yeah. It'd be funny. Are you kidding? Oh. But I couldn't remember where I even discovered said hidden talent just that I could do it.
So they they thought, no. That's there's not enough there's not enough meat there.
We're not
gonna do it.
Well, I'll I'll... I don't need the background. Just give me the turkey. What's it sound like?
Okay. Alright. Uh-oh. We'll see how it comes across on a podcast. I'll I'll try it.
I'm ready. That's it. It's really good. Can you get closer to a microphone and do it, though?
Let me try.
Now that was sounded farther away. The first time came through pretty good, though. Yeah. The first time came through. That was astonishingly good.
How did you learn that you could do that?
I have no idea. I think I was just, like, goofing around, like, either in the car or on the couch with my husband, and I did it. Don't know. He might have been talking... He, you know, he goes hunting every now and again, and we might have been talking about turkey hunting, and I just did it.
And he started laughing hysterically and said, oh my god. You actually sound like a freaking turkey.
Since you were a kid? Seriously? When did you figure it out?
No. I was probably 30. Jeez.
You reminded me of those videos. It's like... I I know it's guys filming their wives, and it's... It... And I think the opening is like, gave the weird girl a chance, and now look what happened.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. That's exactly it. The weird girls are the best ones.
I used to do... When I was a kid, I would do that thing where you stop breathing and then, like, you make that sound at the back of your voice. It feels like... It's just like, I I don't know if I could do it anymore. Like...
Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I used to do that endlessly when I was a kid.
Oh, yeah. That's a good one.
Before PlayStation, and there were three channels, everybody. Just so you know. I had to watch a lot of Lawrence Welk when I was a little kid.
So... Amazing.
Yeah. No. It's not that amazing. I think you're terrific. I really do appreciate you doing this with me.
Thank you. Yeah. Thanks for having me.
The Deli Counter1:15:46
No. Quite seriously. Like, it was a it was a really good time. I I like that you're embracing being weird. I was at the deli counter last night at my grocery store.
And the young girl, her name was... I mean, what what do I care? Her last name... Her her first name was Vadha. It was v a d.
Okay. And I walk up to the counter, and I say hi. And she goes, hi. And I can see a lack of enthusiasm that should come commiserate with being 19 or 20 years old and working at a deli counter on a Sunday afternoon. And Yeah.
So I appreciate that. I got no problem with Vada's lack of motivation. And I go, I'm gonna get four things. I need a quarter pound of each. And when I said that, she looked at me like, or you could kill yourself.
And and I was like, no. I'm gonna I'm gonna get this turkey right here. One? I'm like, well, this one right here. And she was difficult from the jump.
That's okay. And she gets the turkey. She comes back. She goes, what else? And I said, well, I'd also like to get this this ham right here.
Right? She does the ham, and then she does the third thing. And and and she is by now, like, very, very disappointed at me for, I guess, just getting a quarter pound of each.
How dare you make her do her job?
I don't know what was happening exactly, but I've... I stayed upbeat the entire time. We got to the last thing. I wanted slicing pepperoni. And I said, vada for the last item.
I'm gonna get a half a pound instead of a quarter pound, and I wanna get slicing pepperoni. Now between you and I, I just want you to know, that there was only one kind of slicing pepperoni in the deli counter. I went and looked. There was two salamis and a pepperoni. And she walks all the way to the other side.
She comes back so disappointed in me and she goes, which pepperoni do you want? And I said, well, I think there's only one. And then I meandered across the counter to it, looked down and went, yes. There's only one. I'll take the one you have.
And she goes, there's two. And I said Uh-oh. And I pointed to it and I went, that's salami. And she and she went and then got the pepperoni. So anyway, now she's...
I I was good with her right until then. And then now I was a little irritated. So she ever hears this. This is this is what happened to you next whether you realize it or not. She comes back over.
She puts it up there. I said, I really appreciate your help. Thank you so much. And she said, you're welcome with not a lot not a lot of glee on her face. And I said, hey.
Have you ever considered that after you do something that's really kind of, like, exceptional, you should go vada. And she looked through me and through time and space. And I said, you know, like, ta da. And she goes, and I'm... This is a quote.
What? And I said, do you not know the, like, the word ta da? It's like a... Kind of like an expressive way to, like, you know, say, like, I did it or, like, this is magical or something. And I was like, and, know, and your name's Vada and ta da.
And she... And I just went, you don't know the phrase? And she goes, no. And I said,
oh, no.
And I go, you should look into it. And I turned around, like, left.
Thought it was something to think about.
I go over to my wife and she goes, what took so long? I said, well, I was having a bad experience with an underimportant... An underperforming employee, which I didn't mind until the until the pepperoni pushed back, and then I said this. And she goes, oh, you leave that kid alone. And I was like, she started it.
That was
She totally did.
But my point is is that, like, I've... I shouldn't have said that. I embarrassed myself in any measure. Like, it's not a thing you would do. And to your point, I really don't care.
And I Yep. I love this part of my life. This is awesome. I can't wait till I get older.
Much easier.
I wanna get older so that it can even be, like, maybe a little inappropriate. Nobody would be like, oh, he's a cute old guy. Leave him alone. Like, you know
what I mean? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Like, but you're just like, what are you just saying? Like, I don't think we should repeat it. And it's like that look at him. He's adorable. That's what I'm going for.
He's from another time.
Don't worry about They don't know. That's... Yeah. I'm gonna I'm gonna... As they say, I'm gonna eat in that time period of my life.
I'm really... Oh, I'm gonna go nuts. Alright. You're Oh, yeah.
You'll eat...
Seriously. Oh, wait till you see. I'm definitely getting arrested in my seventies for sure. You were awesome. Thank you.
Hold on one second for
me. Okay.
Sponsors and Close1:20:20
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