#1928 Bolus For: High-Sugar Drinks
Bolus For: High-Sugar Drinks
Scott and Jenny Smith take on the drinks people forget to bolus for: regular soda, milk and chocolate milk, juice, and the sugar hiding in powdered lemonade. A liquids-are-rocket-fuel edition.
Jump to a moment
- Liquids get overlooked — and they hit fast. Scott’s whole premise: people bolus for the meal and forget the drink. A can of regular soda runs mid-40s in carbs, all sugar, and Jenny’s guidance is to pre-bolus hard and consider a short walk after, because liquid sugar absorbs faster than a teaspoon of the solid kind.
- Fat and protein soften the curve. Whole milk (about 12g carb, 8g protein, 8g fat per 8 oz) rises more gently than skim, where there’s nothing to slow it. Higher fat means a flatter rise — but it still needs a pre-bolus, not none.
- The “healthy” chocolate milk can be worse than soda. A 14 oz Nesquik carries 41g carb and 39g sugar, roughly a soda’s sugar in a bigger package. By contrast, ultra-filtered Fairlife cuts the natural lactose sugar and boosts protein, which changes both the number and the strategy.
- Eat your fruit, don’t drink it. Grape juice lands near 59g carb for 12 oz — Jenny pegs a grape at roughly a gram of carb each, so a glass of juice is dozens of grapes with none of the fiber to slow it down.
- The hidden-sugar finale. Scott does the math on the powdered lemonade of his childhood: a gallon is around 277g of sugar, and it would take only about eight gallons to equal a five-pound bag. The lesson lands as comedy, but the point is real — the drinks around the food often carry more sugar than the food.
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You'll find those links in the show notes of the podcast player you're listening in right now and at juiceboxpodcast.com. Today, we're just gonna pick a couple of difficult drinks and do them all at once.
The premise: liquids we overlook2:08
Oh.
I'm gonna and regular soda. I wanna do
That's good.
I wanna do milk and chocolate milk. I assume that will also encompass hot chocolate, but that's it, really. I just think that these are things people drink, and they need to know how to bowl this for them. And I'd like to talk them.
And chocolate milk.
Don't you think? Are they not different?
They are different.
That's why brought
them all. Yeah. No. It's it's great, but it's it's just an interesting simple thing.
It's very simple, but I don't think it is because well, because I think that we have a a propensity to overlook liquids and condiments when we're bolusing. And so True. I I really do think that. Not that not that, you know, soda isn't pretty obvious. Right?
But still, let's talk about it. So I'm gonna I'm gonna just do the thing. I'm gonna go to the thing, the machine. And I'm gonna ask you, what if what if I'm just gonna have a soda? That's it.
Blood sugar's good. I'm I'm I'm I'm walking around my house. I'm gonna open up a 12 ounce can of something and drink it. Is it going to, like, spike my blood sugar for sure? Like, put this person in a specific situation.
Let's make their blood sugar a 110. It's been nice and stable for a while. They're on an automated system and or they're even who cares what they're on, really? They've been nice and stable for a while. They're thirsty.
They're gonna grab a soda. Prebels
A regular soda. Regular soda. Clear.
Sugary sugaryific soda. Pick your favorite. Sure. Have you ever had a soda?
I have had soda. Mhmm. Yes. Of course, I've had soda.
Yeah. In '78? When was it exactly?
Pick a soda. Oh my goodness.
Favorites? Pepsi?
I would have picked I will tell you, I would have picked not a cola type.
Okay.
I would have picked what is it Sunkist?
Really?
Is the orange soda? So and there's, again, there's always a story to something. Right? But my short story is that my grandfather always had a refrigerator in his garage. He had a dairy farm.
And for all the help like, he always had a a cooler or a fridge that had was stocked with drinks. Sunkist was one of them. And my cousins and I and my younger brother, we would usually, we were supposed to ask to have the soda from the fridge. Right?
Special soda.
Right? Special soda. Mhmm. But we don't just, you know, sneak in the garage and, like, grab a can and then go out behind, like, the the chicken coop and, like, drink it.
Other kids are smoking cigarettes. Jenny is stealing a soda. Go ahead.
I'm stealing a soda, but it was sunkissed. Like, that was the favored one of of my three boy cousins and myself and my younger brother. Mhmm. And then when I found out I had diabetes, my grandpa clearly knew what we were doing, and what showed up was diet sunkissed.
Oh, your grandfather changed over the refrigerator for you?
Part right. He always made that as an available sneak. And he kept the other ones in there, but he always made sure to have a diet in there because he knew that I needed that.
Well, isn't that nice? Did you how old were you when that happened?
So, gosh, I mean, I was diagnosed as a, 13 year old.
Do you remember that feeling loving
to you? I do.
Yeah. Absolutely. Did he ever mention it?
Did he ever mention it? You know, I don't think that he did. I can't remember that as
a cry while we were trying to talk about ballet soup for soda. That's so nice.
But I you know, it's just it's the reason I would pick sunkissed is mainly because that's my memory of it, And that was my, like, flavor or grape soda. I like the fruity flavors for whatever reason.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you.
Not like the cola one.
Well, let's go with Sunkist.
There you go.
I have a 12 ounce can. That's such a nice story. We have a 12 ounce can of regular sunkissed orange soda. It is 41 carbs.
Yep.
Yep. 41 added sugar, grams as well. Sodium, sixty five milligrams. There's obviously no fat or protein in it, and there is caffeine, nineteen milligrams. But after talking to somebody who had a was telling me how much was in a Monster Energy drink, I now don't think that's very much caffeine at all.
No. It's it's not. It's actually less than most tea.
Yeah. It's a a small amount. Yeah.
Yeah. It's a small amount.
So okay. Blood sugar is a 110, nice and stable. It's hot outside. I want a soda. Do I just go 41 carbs and wait, or is it gonna get on top of me no matter what?
Soda is rocket fuel — pre-bolus hard7:12
It is. It's all sugar. You said 41 of carb, 41 of sugar. That means this product is literally like taking teaspoons of sugar and putting it in your mouth, only it's in liquid form. And liquid absolutely gets absorbed faster than a teaspoon of sugar does.
Okay. So it's just rocket fuel?
It's it it is. Absolutely. You will see a change in your blood sugar if you do not pre bolus the crap out of this. You are can I say that?
Sure. You can. One me just did, but sure.
Okay. You have got you have got to really pre bolus this, and you're starting at a nice number. One ten. You're nice and stable. You whoever whatever you did prior to this may add into, but you still need to pre bolus this.
And are you gonna 41 grams of carb is no joke.
That's a lot. Also, I'm That's a lot. As you're talking, I'm now mesmerized by this. This is the number. 41 for the Sunkist, 41 for Pepsi, Mountain Dew, 46, Barq's root beer, 44 to 45.
Like, this is the number. You want
mid It is.
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Okay.
Can you contain the spike?10:13
A 100%. And it's the hard thing is to acknowledge one that we are looking for any carb intake. It's gonna create a rise. With something like this, it's gonna create a pretty significant rise. And your question is, do we just bolus what our insulin to carb ratio would dictate we need?
Do we bolus more and wait even longer? Do what what do we do to mitigate the impact this is going to have?
Yeah.
It is an experiment for yourself unless you've had the experience before and you can draw from that. This one time instance is gonna be your best thing to do is pre bolus and drink the soda and see what happens and then possibly go outside for a walk.
We're not gonna see one of those, like, lollipop situations where you it pops up and pops back and comes back down again. This is soda's gonna take you up, and you're gonna stay there after that.
It's it's gonna come up. I mean, there's nothing really holding up when we have carbohydrate intake or sugar intake. The rise and fall is meant to be to mimic or go along with how our insulin action is. Mhmm. But this is very quick sugar, so the intake of it is gonna create the rise, which we're gonna try to contain because of the pre bolus strategy.
And then on the back end, it's not really going to linger if all the settings are correct Yeah. And our bolus ratio is correct. It should bring us back down despite us going up quick.
Okay. And I'm gonna ask you what I imagine to some people will be a controversial question. I don't mean it that way. Gun to your head, you have to drink a soda. Would you drink a regular soda with sugar, or would you drink forget your diabetes for a second, or would you drink a diet soda?
Regular vs diet: the ingredients debate12:11
Without diabetes in the picture?
Just I'm asking about, like because people argue about this all the time.
Yeah. I I mean, from a caloric standpoint as well as from a a sugar standpoint Mhmm. Even without diabetes, I'd probably drink the diet soda, but it's hard to forget what I know.
And you know what? There's a lot of chemicals in it?
There are a lot of chemicals in both of the products. Whether it's regular or diet, it it's all chemically made. There's nothing natural. You don't go in the field and pick a can of soda. Like, there's there's nothing natural.
Only, Jenny. Because then your grandfather wouldn't have even needed that that refrigerator. You could just pluck it off the off the vine.
There you go.
So wait. Okay. Let's take a second here. List all ingredients in a Pepsi and a Diet Pepsi. Because this is the argument online all the time.
People are like, you can't drink sugared soda. We have diabetes, blah blah blah. And somebody says, oh, it's better than all the chemicals and the other thing, and then they argue. It's like it's like a it's a gimme for the Internet. If I wanted to put a post up right now that reached 30,000 people, I would just make that argument.
It would pop off in two seconds. The algorithm would love it. Send it on its way. Regular Pepsi ingredients, carbonated water, high fructose corn syrup, caramel color sugar, phosphoric acid, caffeine, citric acid, natural flavor. Okay?
Mhmm. Carbonated water, and this is diet, caramel, color, aspartame, phosphoric.
Is essentially NutraSweet.
It's it's
a sweetener.
Phosphoric acid, potassium, benzoate to preserve freshness, caffeine, citric acid, natural flavor. Oh, hold on a second. Asulfamane potassium?
Asulfamane potassium is another type of sweetener similar to aspartame or sucralose or what it's it's a chemical based non nutritive sweetener, and it's often used more in drinks like this. I can't remember exactly the chemical reason, but it it's sweetness supports the flavor a little bit better than other types of alternatives. Okay. Now you didn't ask me what kind of diet soda
I would choose. I went Pepsi diet host. You would pick something with, like like, doctor Brown something or other, or am I getting close?
Doctor Brown.
I don't know.
Do know that brand a 100%.
I know you.
I would actually pick Zevia. Zevia? Yes. Z e I a.
What's it got in it then?
So it's sweetened with stevia and monk fruit. Some of them. It may not many of them may not have monk fruit, but, it's stevia monk fruit. So it is alternative sweetener that is not chemically a 100% creative.
Am I gonna drink it and think that I just lick the the floor, or what is it? Is it good?
No. You're not. Okay. In fact I mean, when we have when we have soda, like, a root beer float for, like, a special something that I'll make, I absolutely get the Zevia root beer.
Mhmm.
And it is quite tasty. It's all clear, so there's no caramel color
Yeah.
Which you can see in regular Pepsi and Diet Pepsi. Many of these ingredients are very much similar.
Mhmm.
Right? There's not a lot of difference, outside of the aspartame and the sulfate potassium.
Do you agree with, Chad GPT's breakdown of the question, does diet soda cause cancer? No good evidence says diet soda causes cancer in normal use. The best plain English answer is probably not, but don't drink endless amounts of it. The scary
always the answer.
The scare mostly comes from aspartame, which in many diet sodas in 2023, the, let's see. WHO cancer agency IARC classified aspartame as possibly carcinogenic to humans based on limited evidence. But another WHO FAO safety group, the JECFA, reviewed the same issue and kept the acceptable daily intake at forty milligrams per kilogram of body weight per day, who gave the example that a hundred and fifty four pound adult would generally have to drink around nine to 14 cans of diet soda per day depending on the aspartame content to exceed that limit.
Right.
Yeah. I think some people will drink that much soda every day.
They may. Yeah. But they also this is a it's a bigger consideration than just soda or diet soda. Right? The bigger consideration is that with diabetes, many sugar free products come into your or or could Mhmm.
Come into your day to day intake. So your soda intake is not all you're going to get with these artificial sweeteners in it. You may have candy products, you may have baked products, because now we have a whole host of low calorie or no sugar or even some of the keto types of products that are on the market, which they may be great blood sugar wise. But you did the equation, right, of this person who can get this much, can drink this many cans. Nobody's going to do that math.
No way.
You're not keeping track of the amount of, in this example, just aspartame daily that you're intaking and by 02:00 in the oh, I've had my limit. I can't have any nobody does that.
Soda's over now. No more soda today.
Right? So
Yeah. Now I'm gonna have water. No. So I've asked my next question that I see in this argument. Do artificial sweeteners make you hungry?
So it's what do you think
about it say? Well, I am curious because my consideration and what I typically have coached, and I I did do some weight management coaching years ago Mhmm. And still, you know, in somewhat in some of the stuff that I do. But when you are filling let's say your body is hungry and you don't want something caloric, but you wanna take away by putting in a film, like a fullness factor, something in your stomach. And liquid does a good job with that.
But when your body really does need something caloric, when you put in something that is false in calories, your body still craves the calories it was looking for. You may have a fullness factor for a bit from the liquid, but you end up still craving something that has true calories that your brain can acknowledge, Oh, I have been fed. I can turn this piece off. I mean, there are a whole bunch of hormones in the body that we've got that indicate fullness versus hunger, and they do get dysregulated in somebody with diabetes to begin with. And then you add in a lot of, like, sugar free beverages, which in whatever realm you're drinking them and whatever the sweetener is, whatever, they're great as a additive for hydration.
Mhmm.
But you really shouldn't be taking these in to replace calories that your body does need. Okay. And in that, absolutely, these types of products can make you more hungry because you're not putting in food when your body's really telling you, hey. I'm hungry.
Yeah. Your body wants or needs calories. You're tricking it to thinking other that it got some, and then it realizes no, and then it still asks you for more food.
And then by then, you might be more hungry, so you might put in more calories than you would had you just eaten an apple and, you know, a piece of string cheese, for example.
Yeah. Okay.
So I'm curious what, your friend chat GPT has said.
I he agrees with you or she. I've never I've never I've never asked her preference.
But That's why I said, dear friend.
Most people, artificial sweeteners do not seem to create major hunger effects by themselves. But a cleaner answer would be that compared with sugar, they may leave you less satisfied because you got a sweet taste without calories. Compared with water, they usually do not clearly make people eat more. A 2024 review of randomized trials found that non nutritive sweeteners when replacing sugar were linked with about a 175 fewer calories per day on average. But when compared with water, they are not associated with a significant change in total cal caloric intake.
So I I guess it's the feeling that it leaves you with, like an unsatisfied feeling
Right.
Which which is where the question that people say it makes me hungry.
Yeah.
Yeah. So it gets oversimplified into diet sodas make me hungry. Gotcha. Okay. The stevia soda, by the way, carbonated water, natural flavor, stevia extract, tartaric acid, caffeine, citric acid.
Mhmm. And they must have maybe they did. Maybe they took monk fruit out. I know it it was in there at some point. Maybe it's not in there any longer or maybe it's in some of the flavors.
Yeah. But
they're all pretty good. I've had I've tried many of the flavors.
I met a man a couple of years ago who was thinking of buying ads on the podcast to launch his, natural soda company. Oh. Yeah. I don't know whatever happened to him, But he was on it. Was doing it by himself.
Sent me some samples. Some of them were pretty good. A couple of them I didn't like. But it was it was interesting. I don't even remember the name of it to be able to check to see if it it actually took off or not.
Nevertheless. Okay. Let's jump to milk. They say it does the body good. I heard it in a in an ad when I was a kid.
On to milk — does the fat matter?22:15
Yes.
I think that was just an ad from people who sold milk.
But Probably. The dairy industry.
Yeah. They were like, hey. It's great for you. I swear to god. Is it good for you?
Is it would you drink milk? May I guess?
You may guess.
There's no way you drink cow's milk, but go ahead. I'm asking now.
I don't I don't drink cow's milk any longer. Yeah. I don't drink cow's
milk. Is there any connection to the fact that, like, inside when I was a kid, girls started developing it earlier, and they used to say it was from cow's milk, hormones in cow's milk.
Well, they yeah. And I don't know what studies have proven relative to that, but it is a reason that we now have the non hormone treated dairy types of products, and they're clearly labeled as, you know, dairy cows didn't have any hormonal whatever. Mhmm. In general, is milk it's a caloric, I guess, piece that does contain all the macronutrients.
Okay.
Especially regular whole milk and even 2% milk, and if 1% if you can find it. They have carbohydrates, They have protein. They have fat. They're a they're a pretty complete type of food product Mhmm. If you're looking at it just from the macronutrients.
Yeah.
I mean, there's also calcium in it. Right? So is there quality in milk? Sure. If you're just breaking it down to the nutrients, there's quality in the milk.
Are they adding stuff to the milk or to the cows or to the feed? How does it get to the milk?
Yeah. I mean, it's all based in general, our cows eons ago compared to the cows that we have now. If you take care of dairy cattle, you are you're taking care of them because they are your breadwinner.
Yeah.
Right? And so you depending on what you're using and what type of feed or whether they are grass fed instead of being grain fed, I mean, there's a whole bunch of different thoughts on the quality that you get from the milk and then even from, like, grass fed beef comparative to non. There is there's a difference when you look at the product that comes out.
How it gets out. When I
was a
I would, my dad would drive to a place a few blocks from where we lived, and you'd walk in, and they they were milking the cows right there and selling the milk. Like, just like that. That place, by the way, that farm is a seven Eleven now. But Oh. Yeah.
I'm so I'm so sorry to say. But that's how we used to get it back. Was it even pasteurized, I wonder? Or or were we it's interesting.
I would expect that they probably have
do that. Yeah. I wasn't drinking it
wrong though. With in the farm, I'm sure that they did. Yeah. I mean, I I loved my grandfather's dairy farm. It was it was so much fun to go to.
We had fresh milk all the time when we went there, so it's not like I've never had milk.
Yeah. I
grew up drinking milk.
Whole to skim, and why fat softens the rise25:39
Here it is. Whole milk, 12 carbs. Actually
Mhmm.
Whole milk, 2%, 1% skim milk, all have 12 carbs. Yep. I have it as an eight ounce glass. Protein, all eight. The only difference really is the fat.
Yeah. Whole, I have it 2% at 1% at two and a half, and skim milk, zero.
Right.
So that's it. They're just they're skimming the they're literally skimming oh, skim milk. They're literally skimming the fat out of the milk.
They are.
Never thought of that before. Never thought In my life, I didn't realize that's why skim milk was called.
That is so funny.
Look at us learning. Okay. Well, me, the rest of you are like, yeah, dummy. But, so are we does the fat in the milk change the bolus?
To some degree, if you consider the breakdown in whole milk, right, eight grams of fat and 12 grams of carb and about eight grams of protein, the protein and the carbs are the same. But when you add fat, as we've talked about so many times before, there is more of a stabilizing effect. And because the fat in this is almost as much carb,
Yeah.
You would have a lighter effect of whole milk. The same thing with whole milk yogurt and any of those types of dairy products.
Mhmm.
The higher the fat, if there is carb in it, the more stable you should see. Doesn't mean you don't need any pre bolus for it.
Yeah.
But it still will have lower effect than something like skim milk where there's no fat in it at all. There's nothing.
I'm trying to decide if my reference is so old that I shouldn't make it. But if you think about I'm gonna see how much of this you get if I just say it like this. If you think about Laverne de Fazio and her drinking and her drinking milk and Pepsi in a little television show called Laverne and Shirley in the seventies, She would take milk and Pepsi and mix it together. Is that the perfect low treatment drink for a type one? Oh.
Is it possible? No. Because that tastes good.
Well, because it would have bad imagine.
You can't imagine. Because it would have the zhuzh of the sugar, but not as much of it with the milk and the fat. I don't know. Please report back if anybody's drinking milk.
No. That is very interesting. I I would have never thought of that reference. I do know it, but I would have never.
Are there three people who know what I'm talking about? Probably not.
Oh, there have to be more people who know what you're talking about.
While you were talking, I I asked about my question, and it just goes to show how things can get out into the world and not be true. I asked, do hormones in cow's milk cause early breast development for young girls? And it says, probably no. Cow's milk has not been shown to cause earlier development, blah blah blah. Concern makes sense because milk naturally comes from out of hormones.
A large US prospective study, 5,500 girls, found that milk intake after age nine did not predict earlier first periods. In comparison, the drinks the girls drinking more than three glasses a day versus one point one point one to four glasses weekly, intake did not significantly predict age. Yeah. This this is just a thing somebody said out loud when I was at an age I heard it, and I thought it was true. The Internet.
It really does.
Wonder too if this reference is to more recent
milk. No. It was something I heard when I was younger. So it's just somebody going like, you know what I've noticed? And then, you know, it's probably this.
And then people said it, and we didn't have any way to check back then. So Yeah. People were like, you know what I heard? And then I said it thirty five years later. But I checked.
You checked, and you got a reference.
Yeah. So, anyway, that's not that. Alright.
I wanted to bring in from a milk perspective.
Go ahead.
Chocolate milk and the Nesquik trap29:43
So what about another kind of milk, chocolate milk?
Oh, I got I got the the Hershey's chocolate right here. Hold on a second. You're gonna know this off the top of your head probably. One tablespoon of Hershey's chocolate syrup, 45 calories, 11 carbs. Wow.
10 grams of sugar, no fat, no protein.
I'm even talking about, like, you buy the chocolate milk at the store. You're not making it with Hershey syrup at home.
Okay.
You're buying the chocolate milk at the store. Look at the carbohydrate difference. You just said, what, a is it a teaspoon or a tablespoon of
a Hershey's tablespoon. That seemed reasonable. You did tablespoon. Would do, like, two tablespoons. But
So if we do the tablespoon and we do the milk, right, we've got 20 some grams of carbohydrate in total. Right?
Well, you end up putting 22 of sugar into the 12 of the milk. Right? So one, two, three.
It's almost You did two tablespoons?
Yeah. I did. But, mean, what am I gonna drink? Like, a light I don't I want a nice dark chocolate if I'm gonna have one.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So It's pretty close, would think, because I I believe that a cup of regular chocolate milk is around 30 ish grams of carb.
Yeah. I I did Fairlife.
Oh, and the Fairlife's gonna be a lot less.
Is it? Oh, then I need another one. What what would another
one is something I was gonna bring up as well because there is there's a difference for Fairlife in bolus strategizing and everything.
Okay.
But regular chocolate milk is typically for a cup, like, 30 grams of carb. And in general, I think it's 2%, so it's probably got about five grams
Okay.
Of fat, but it should have the same amount of protein.
Fairlife: more protein, less sugar31:24
I just realized I should do like that Nesquik one. Oh. Because that's that comes in little bottles and the thing. Nesquik chocolate
Oh my god. I haven't thought about Nesquik and the bunny in a long time.
Yeah. The bunny. That's the only reason I remember it. Oh, goodness. Nesquik chocolate, this is low fat 14 ounce bottle, 250 calories.
Wow. Wow. That's twice as much as a soda. Total carbs, 41. Same carbs as soda, 39 sugar.
Added sugars, 18, protein, 14, fat, four, sodium, two forty. Wow. A Nesquik chocolate low fat milk, 14 ounces is
But 14, not eight.
Yeah. But So
this is more than a cup.
Yeah. But but still, like, it that's how it comes in the store. And that's far more, I would say, far less healthy than a regular soda.
Is it
Yeah. Am I wrong? They trick you with the milk and the bunny. They
it has more fat and protein in it, but it has a lot more sugar in it.
I'll tell you what else it has in it. Low fat milk, sugar cocoa processed with alkali, calcium
Alkali.
There you go. Calcium carbonate, cellulose gel, natural and artificial flavors, carrageenan. Carrageenan. Thank you. Salt, gallon gum, cellulose gum, vitamin a palmitate, and vitamin d three.
Why they bother with the vitamin? I guess it was already in it. There's they were just like, oh, we have to write down
vitamin d. So oh,
yeah. That's right. They took it out and put it back. Thanks, government. Wow.
That's interesting. So Yeah. Versus
Reading the label out loud33:12
a four now compare it to the Fairlife.
Yeah. I'm looking right now.
Even just the regular Fairlife versus
I have a 14 ounce here of the Fairlife. Okay. Two hundred two hundred and fifty calories, 22 carbs, 21 sugar, 10 added sugar, three protein, eight fat, 350. So it's a lot of sodium in this stuff.
But look at the protein difference.
Yeah. So yeah. 23 versus 14. Yeah. So because why?
How what is what is
Well, that is I Fairlife Faucus is an it is it's an ultra filtered type of milk. And that, to my knowledge, my understanding, it increases the protein content, and it takes the sugars down, the natural lactose based sugars in the milk down, not added sugars. And the processing, there's more calcium in it than, and I believe, if I'm not mistaken, Fairlife milk is also considered lactose free.
Okay. That would change that then?
Well, it would change for people who have lactose intolerance.
Okay. I'm now jumping around. Welch's 100% grape juice, eight ounces. 140 calories, 39 carbs, 36 total sugar. No added sugar.
Juice: eat your fruit, don’t drink it34:34
No need. Protein one, no fat, tiny bit of sodium because juice is like what do they always say? Like, eat your food, don't drink it? Is that the
Eat your fruit, don't drink it.
Eat your fruit, don't drink it. Yeah. Jeez. So how many grapes would I have to? Hold on
a second. Each grape is about a a gram of carb per grape is usually what I teach people, and that's for a grape that's, like, the size of a nickel.
I'm just gonna ask the machine. There's no need to think anymore, Jenny. We're just driving a conversation.
Prefer to think.
Yo. You keep thinking. I'm gonna I'll
do it
like this.
Not that I don't use AI. I I do because it is a helper. But
Eight ounces equals 39 grams of carbs. So the easy math is one ounce equals about five grams of carbs. And so 12 ounces of grape juice is 59 carbs count, you know, as the as the grapes. How many grapes are you saying? You'd have to you'd have to eat 15 how many grapes to get to 59?
It's a it's about it's approximately a gram of carb per grape.
59 grapes? Oh my god. Let's do orange juice. I could eat
juice juice should be less. If it's not if it's not, you know, sweetened orange juice, if it's a 100% real orange juice, it is definitely a lot less carb. I think it's in a cup is, like, 30 grams if I remember correctly.
Yeah. I have, eight ounces, one cup orange juice, 110 calories, 26 carbs, 21, 22 sugars, no fat, a little bit of protein. So so grapes are that's why you call them sugar bombs when you talk about them. I mean
They're they're yeah. They're just I mean and the Welch just didn't have added sugar, did it, right, that you were looking at? It was really just concentrated grape.
I don't think it needed it. Yeah. Because it had 39 carbs, 36 sugar, no added sugars. So yeah. Isn't that I just I know that juice is, like, such a thing.
You know what I mean?
Like It is.
A lot of people drink juice.
Yeah.
Wrapping up: condiments and beer carbs36:47
Alright. I think this was good. I like doing this.
This is a lot of fun. I like talking about beverages because as you said, I think early on was beverages, something that you wash the food that you know has calories down
Mhmm.
With. And we really do have to pay attention to what's in a beverage, especially if we're drinking lots of that particular beverage all day long. And if you've never considered if you're newer to this, you may not really consider the drink that you have having an impact on your blood sugar. And it's valuable because it could have a pretty quick impact depending on what the content of what you're drinking is.
Yeah. I'm gonna, I'm gonna finish by making my point over from the beginning. I don't think that we think about drinks or condiments. A tablespoon of ketchup, regular Heinz style ketchup, has five carbs in it, four sugars. A tablespoon is not a lot of ketchup.
So you It is not. No. You Like
a soup spoon size.
You very possibly have twenty, thirty carbs just in ketchup sometimes or barbecue sauce, which would probably have more sugar than I think ketchup does. To make the point, I'm not promoting drinking, but a 12 ounce can of regular Budweiser is a 145 calories, 10.5 grams of carbs, 1.3 protein, and, alcohol by volume 5%. But there's far fewer carbs and in beer than there is in soda. So just saying. Just, you know
We're not advocating that you could drink beer and
replace your soda. But It's a it's so you can see the difference. I I do not have people on on the Internet saying, like, Scott told me to drink beer instead of soda. I didn't say that. I'm just trying to make the point that you if I asked you, are there more carbs than a Pepsi or a beer, I think people probably might have said beer.
So but or maybe not even realize that their alcoholic beverage
Has carbs in
at all. Carbs in it.
Yeah. What other alcohols have carbs in it that nobody would think of? Like like
I mean, hard alcohol doesn't. It's the fact that most often we mix our hard alcohols like vodka and whatever with something else. Right? Mhmm. Yeah.
Juices, regular sodas, whatever it might be.
Glamberry, that kind of thing. Right? Yeah. Alright, guys. Listen.
You can do you can be Jenny and sneak a sunkist once in a while. You know you had the diet sunkist after they were there. Right?
Oh, of course I do.
I know you did.
Don't worry. 100% because at that point in my life, was I reading the aspartame and all the stuff in it? No. Because that was what we also had.
Yeah. Oh, please. Right. I make that point all the time around not understanding the impacts of food. I'll say it here.
The Country Time lemonade reckoning39:41
My mom used to buy a I mean, it felt like a trash can size of, like, lemonade scoop powder or something like that, and we would just take a count.
Country time.
Yeah. Yeah. There. Actually, hold on a second.
Country time lemonade.
Lemonade powder. Let me see if I can this is how it'll end. Because I've said this so many times. I've never actually looked it up. I just used it as an example.
So we had a one gallon Rubbermaid pitcher.
Mhmm.
You know, the ones with the little white, like, things you spin.
That you twisted it?
And then eventually they get really dirty and, like, they're disgusting. You know what I mean?
I do.
So, you know, pitcher.
Never understood about those pitchers is that one side of the twist was a very large just open hole, and the other side opposite of the twist was a hole
Serrating. A
square with with right. I was like, what what like, I'm not straining anything. It never even as a kid, it never made any sense to me. And then my mom told me, she's like, but oftentimes people will put ice in these pitchers.
Stop the ice from coming
out. It stops the ice from coming out, and then it made sense to me.
There you go. Just like that. Jenny understood. Country time lemonade. So we'd have a giant I mean, a and we didn't even get the country time.
I was I was the kind of broke where we got the, like, the one in the white container next to it, where you're just like here and this. And so, I wish that wasn't true. I wish I was drinking like Hobo's Hobo's drinks. You understand? Like, not even, like like, there there were literally, like, people, you know, homeless that were buying the stuff better than mine.
So they were like, I don't do the white container, with no photo on it like you do. Poor person. But, nevertheless, two tablespoons of this powder is a 100 calories, 26 carbs, 24 sugar. So two tablespoons is that. And I asked, you know, but how do I make a gallon of it?
Regular country time lemonade, one gallon, takes about one and a third cups of powder or eight scoops. The package commonly lists eight scoops for a gallon or 1.13. So drinking it prepared, you're getting the same 26 grams of carbs per cup. But in that gallon oh my god, Jenny. Everything makes so much more sense now.
Oh, my life didn't have to be this way. A gallon of this is 277 carbs. It's all sugar.
Yeah. Yeah.
It is. My whole life.
And that's we yeah. But but and your whole life is not only yours. Think about how often we've seen the big gigantic orange container at cookouts, and you push the little button and out the spigot comes the drink, and you fill it six times during the entire six hour, you know, cookout. It's all sugar.
Oh, wait. Wait.
Like, just fill it with water.
How much how much sugar how how do I describe that I want the sugar in granules? Does that it does not equal, how much sugar
Oh my I
I guess granulated is this? Oh, I'm so afraid. I I I don't I know people can't see me. I'm genuinely disappointed. Like, this is just I mean, we it was always in the refrigerator.
And if it and if it was gone, you just took it over to the sink and not even, like, please, in case you're wondering, filtered water. That didn't exist. You just jam that in there, throw in a little ice, throw in another cup and a third. And by the way, do you think we were doing a cup and a third? Honestly, you've heard the stories.
You think somebody hit the third of the cup out? No. They were like cup and more. So oh my god.
Well, Kool Aid is not much different, I would expect. Right? The the difference in Kool Aid is that Kool Aid, when I grew up, was not premixed little containers like the country time. It was packets of powder that had no sugar.
Yeah.
And then you sugared it the way that you mixed it, right, with the water and the sugar and the powder, and you mixed it up. And then you couldn't wait until, like, all the sugar was completely dissolved at the bottom of the pitcher with your purple fluid that you're drinking.
The purple fluid? Yes.
Because that's what it was.
Eight gallons to a bag of sugar44:06
Okay. Here's how I decided to do this. One gallon of country time lemonade sorry, country time, is about 277 grams of sugar. Okay? Mhmm.
So I'd need eight gallons of country time lemonade to equal it's only eight gallons. A five pound bag of sugar. Oh my god. Oh, that's why I was fat. Never mind.
Alright. Asked and answered. I know what happened. Alright.
There you go. It was all your country time, non labeled.
Can I just say at end, I I'd like to thank the Eli Lilly Corporation for for making me fit? And I don't hold my mom accountable. She's passed on. Would be unfair. Oh my god.
She did what she could.
Well, I mean, she could have put some diet sunkist in there, but I guess that didn't occur to anybody. So Jesus. God. Alright, everyone. Godspeed.
Good luck. Don't drink your sugar. Bye bye.
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