#1816 Bolus 4 - The Movies
Going to the movies doesnt have to be a disaster. Jenny and Scott bolus 4 the snack bar.
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Key Takeaways
- Estimate by the Handful: If you don't have nutrition facts, a good rule of thumb is that one handful (or one cup) of popcorn contains about 5 grams of carbohydrates.
- Portion Control is Key: In a dark movie theater, it's easy to mindlessly eat handful after handful. Ask for a small empty cup to portion out your popcorn from a shared bucket so you can accurately count your carbs.
- Account for High Fat: Movie theater popcorn is popped in oil and often topped with "buttery flavored topping," adding massive amounts of fat and calories that can cause delayed, stubborn blood sugar spikes.
- Pre-bolus and Extend: Because of the high carb and fat load, pre-bolusing is important. However, you may want to give a portion of the insulin upfront and extend the rest (or correct later) to match the slower digestion caused by the fat.
- Beware the Candy Combo: Mixing high-sugar candy (like Junior Mints or Raisinets) with high-fat popcorn creates a complex digestion scenario: an immediate spike from the sugar combined with a prolonged rise from the fatty popcorn.
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Introduction & Meal Bolt Roadmap
Scott BennerWelcome back, friends, to another episode of the Juice Box podcast.
In every episode of bolus four, Jenny Smith and I are gonna take a few minutes to talk through how to bolus for a single item of food.
Jenny and I are gonna follow a little bit of a road map called meal bolt.
Measure the meal, evaluate yourself, add the base units, layer a correction, build the bolus shape, offset the timing, look at the CGM, tweak for next time.
Having said that, these episodes are gonna be very conversational and not incredibly technical.
Scott BennerWe want you to hear how we think about it, but we also would like you to know that this is kind of the pathway we're considering while we're talking about it.
So while you might not hear us say every letter of Mielbolt in every episode, we will be thinking about it while we're talking.
If you wanna learn more, go to juiceboxpodcast.com/meal-bolt.
But for now, we'll find out how to bowl us for today's subject.
While you're listening, please remember that nothing you hear on the Juice Box podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise.
Scott BennerAlways consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan or becoming bold with insulin.
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The Movie Theater Popcorn Dilemma
Scott BennerYou spell that ablenow.com.
Alright, Jenny.
Do you know the song Let's All Go to the Lobby?
Jenny SmithNo.
Scott BennerNo.
It's like this.
I used to play in front of, like, drive in movies.
It's like like dancing popcorn and candy would come out and be like, let's all go to the lobby.
Let's all go.
Jenny SmithI'm I've never I've never heard that song
Scott Bennerbefore.
Okay.
Well, you should go to I don't know.
Are there drive in movie theaters anymore?
Are there movie theaters?
Jenny SmithThere are.
There's actually one that's not too far from us.
I have not been to a drive in in a long time.
Scott BennerYeah.
Jenny SmithThey are they're super fun.
I think the last what's the movie with Cameron Diaz and What About Mary?
Scott BennerSomething About Mary?
Something About Mary?
That's the last thing you saw at a drive in?
Jenny SmithLast thing I saw at a drive in.
Yeah.
Scott BennerReference a movie nobody listening even knows about.
When when Kelly and I were first married, we would go to the drive in on on during the summer almost every Friday night.
She'd come home, get off the train, we would drive right to the theater, sit in the back of our we have an SUV.
We sit in the back of it and watch movies.
But I bring that up because I've been asked to talk about how to bowl us for popcorn.
Scott BennerOh.
But I wanted to expand that a little bit.
So I do wanna talk about popcorn first, but then maybe we'll talk a little bit at the end about how to blend it together if you're at the movies and having with other stuff.
Jenny SmithOkay.
Scott BennerAlright?
There are a number of different kinds of popcorn because I said to people, like, what do you like, when they said popcorn to me, I just assumed they meant movie theater popcorn.
But then people were like, well, what about, like, the kind you make at home, and what about, like, the Jiffy Pop, and what about popcorn in a bag?
And I was like, alright.
Well, I'll Jenny and I will look into it and try to figure out if there's a big difference, but let's start with the most difficult one, which I have to believe is movie theater popcorn.
Scott BennerRight?
Jenny SmithI would expect so.
Honestly, I it's kinda funny because I was gonna say, but we're not gonna bowl this for Chinese popcorn.
We're clearly bolusing for something.
A charger.
Scott BennerWhat does your popcorn taste like?
Air?
Jenny SmithNo.
My popcorns, I usually use I have a burly cup.
It's like you put it on your stovetop, and you put in like a little bit of oil.
And then you put your your kernels in, and the top closes, and it's got a little crank on the side.
Mhmm.
Jenny SmithAnd so you crank it, the thing in the bottom spins the kernels, and then it pops.
And it's awesome.
Like, I've had it for a very I'm not gonna say how long, but for a very long time.
And it is the thing when when my boys have their friends over, they're always like, missus Smith, will you make popcorn?
Scott BennerLike, they
Jenny Smithwant my popcorn.
Scott BennerSo I used to have that thing, but I kept burning it on the bottom because I Oh.
So now I just make it in a pot.
Jenny SmithAnd and you just shake?
Scott BennerI've used coconut oil.
Uh-huh.
And then popcorn, give it a little shake, pops out every time.
It's perfect.
Jenny SmithYep.
I usually put, nutritional yeast, kind of has, a cheesy flavor.
So I'll use nutritional yeast, and I'll use a little bit of a little bit of sea salt.
And then flavorings, I usually let my boys pick out whatever flavorings.
Sometimes they like dill.
Jenny SmithSometimes they like it spicy.
Sometimes they just want salt.
So Martin's
Scott Bennera a fan of, like, some fake cheese powder that we put over top of it.
You know, it's so funny.
Jenny SmithThere you go.
Scott BennerWe talk all the time while we're making these bolus four episodes about, like, what do people understand about the impacts of their food.
And I'm trying to look up movie theater popcorn nutrition now, and I see a Reddit thread that says, will movie theater popcorn seriously hinder my weight loss journey?
Yeah.
It will.
Jenny SmithHow often is this person eating popcorn?
Scott BennerI mean, that's a first of all, a valuable question.
But I'm looking here at large tub size, 600 to 1,200 calories, 27 to 48 grams of fat, saturated fat 19 to 34 grams often from coconut oil, total carbs 41 to a 148, and the sodium 1,500.
Jenny SmithYeah.
Scott BennerYeah.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, it's it's it's gonna hinder your weight loss journey for sure.
Jenny SmithRight.
And I'm assuming the difference in calorie there is very likely relative to whether you add the this isn't butter, but we call it butter sauce on the top.
Scott BennerYes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm gonna go to is Regal Cinemas throughout the country?
Jenny SmithThe AMC is usually
Scott BennerYeah.
Jenny SmithThroughout the country too.
Scott BennerRegal popcorn nutritional estimate, refillable large tub, is approximately 20 cups with butter, but we all know it's not actually butter.
It's called buttery flavored topping.
1,200 plus calories.
That's a day's worth of calories.
Jenny SmithThat's a lot of calories.
Scott BennerYeah.
60 to 66 grams total fat, 126 grams carbohydrate, between a 101 and a 126.
So so let's say we're just going to the movies, and we're just having a popcorn.
Jenny SmithOkay.
Scott BennerOkay.
How do you do you pre bolus for it?
Do you I tell Arden to pre bolus while we're in line getting the tickets usually.
Jenny SmithYes.
Pre bolus would be valuable.
And then, you know, you bring up, gosh, I'm looking up the nutrition facts.
Right?
Mhmm.
Estimating Carbs and Fat
Jenny SmithWell, let's say you're not going to look up nutrition facts.
What is one of the bigger hitters with popcorn?
It's carbohydrate.
Right?
Scott BennerRight.
Jenny SmithA good estimate is that a handful of popcorn is about five grams of carb per handful.
Scott BennerOkay.
Jenny SmithSo if you aren't going to look any nutrition facts up and really all you're gonna do is initially cover carbohydrates, you could say, okay.
That large bucket is 20.
Right?
So 20 handfuls is about 20 cups at about five grams per handful.
Scott BennerOkay.
20 cups at five grams per handful.
A hun a 100?
Mhmm.
Okay.
Jenny SmithIf that's a large tub, you said it was 20.
Yeah.
Scott BennerRight?
Mhmm.
And then that's not you squirting the grease on top of it.
Jenny SmithCorrect.
That's just the popcorn.
However, they made it in the kettle with the fat already there.
Scott BennerIt was in yeah.
Whatever that stuff is that I guarantee that's not butter either.
I bet you there's not butter in a movie theater is what I'm trying to I'm probably Yeah.
So with I've got my my estimator up.
So with an insulin to carb ratio of 10 and insulin sensitivity of 50, I'm targeting 90.
Scott BennerA 100 carbs, no consideration for fat is 10 units.
Oh my gosh.
You're gonna bowl this that much for for I don't oh my god.
I'm sorry.
I know that's not how these are supposed that shocked me.
Scott BennerNow I know how people feel when they're like, that seems like a lot of insulin.
That's crazy.
Is that Mhmm.
Okay?
If I put the fat into it and just, like don't know.
Scott BennerIf you just snip like, I don't know.
Say the fat's 50.
Mhmm.
Oh my gosh.
Then it's a
Jenny SmithThat's a lie.
I and you're using your calculator.
Right?
Scott BennerYou're using your calculator.
Telling me that would be 10 units up front.
You need a pre bolus.
It's saying at least of, like, nine minutes, and then a Warsaw wave that could last up to eight hours of another four and a half units of insulin.
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Jenny SmithYes.
Now the other consideration here too is what do you know about how your body processes this load at a time that's also a large amount of fat?
My initial recommendation for a meal, I'm gonna call it a meal because quite honestly, the calorie content of this is like several meals.
Scott BennerYeah.
Jenny SmithYeah.
But right.
So my consideration is there's a lot of fat.
Yes.
It's carby.
Jenny SmithTen units is a large amount of insulin to bolus at a time Mhmm.
For a food that has a fair amount of fat in it.
So you may even potentially use this as a tool to say, okay.
Ten units, but, gosh, I'm in a pre bolus.
Let's say you know your pre bolus is usually fifteen or twenty minutes.
Jenny SmithMhmm.
They're gonna apply that.
My consideration would be maybe bolus for only 70% of this upfront
Scott BennerOkay.
Jenny SmithWith the other 30%.
If you have a pump that allows extended boluses or you have a pump that allows a slower drip over a certain amount of time, etcetera, you might even do that over the initial hour possibly with a consideration then as the bolus four for protein and fat comes in that extra units when you finish the popcorn.
Scott BennerYeah.
I would
Jenny SmithThat's likely when you would push that in.
Scott BennerI'm glad you said that because I was about to say, like, I don't think I would do that.
No.
Yeah.
I don't think I would just throw in 10 units and be like popcorn time.
Like, it's because also I mean, that's a lot of popcorn.
Scott BennerLike, you could get halfway through it and be like, I ain't eating this anymore.
Jenny SmithCorrect.
Portion Control at the Theater
Scott BennerI know you're in the theater and you're trying to sit and have an immersive experience, but I think a movie theater visit is get ahead, stay ahead, keep bolusing if you keep eating.
Yep.
Like, that's sort of my my theory.
Plus, if you have a sugary candy that you're missing with mixing with this, then suddenly, I don't mind being even more ahead because then you can almost eat to the drop Yeah.
If you're gonna snack on sugary candy too.
Scott BennerBut it's a lot about go ahead.
Jenny SmithOh, no.
I was gonna say another trick is that, right, you're going to a movie theater probably with other people, and maybe you're there with a parent.
And the parent is like, sure.
I'll buy the large tub, but we're all gonna share it.
Mhmm.
Jenny SmithAnd there are three of you all dipping your hands into the one large bucket.
Well, great.
That's a 100 grams of carb, but you're not the only one eating it.
And so what makes it a little bit easier to count up and as you're saying, bolus as you consume, ask the theater for a small container that's empty.
Scott BennerYeah.
Jenny SmithFill up your child or your container.
You know, that small container is how many handfuls did you put in?
Maybe it's three handfuls, three cups.
Right?
That's 15 grams of carb.
Jenny SmithYeah.
Ebola is for the 15.
Oh, I'm gonna go back for more.
Great.
Fill it.
Jenny SmithBecause then you really have a little bit more ability to navigate.
Okay.
I'm in a bolus for more now.
I'm in a bolus for more now.
Scott BennerSo maybe movie theaters aren't such an issue because I mean, the food's not it's not great food, but, like, it's not so much about the food.
It's more about the you don't really know how much you're eating because of the snacking and the passing and all that other stuff.
Jenny SmithRight.
Scott BennerIf you can just kinda hold them aside I'll tell you when Arden was little, she would go she'd get a Slurpee at a movie.
And I have to tell you, it was kinda great because you just throw in a bunch of insulin up front and then just modulate it backwards
Jenny SmithIt's just sugar.
Scott BennerWith the Slurpee.
Like, oh, you're getting low.
Take another sip of the Slurpee.
And then you'd leave the theater without, like, a high blood sugar because I'm telling you right now, you could leave a theater with a three fifty no problem if you throw in not enough food and that snacking.
So do you think that when people say they struggle with popcorn, do you think it's more about, like, that part?
Scott BennerBecause I'm looking at SmartFood as an example.
Mhmm.
I mean, SmartFood popcorn, I know you can get that anywhere.
Yep.
13 carbs for two and a half cups, 11 servings.
Scott BennerSo that means that if you grab the bag of SmartFood popcorn and just did it in, you'd be on 140 or or so, like, carbs.
And that is the idea.
Right?
It's about this.
I'm making a back and forth with my hand.
Jenny SmithAnd you're Yeah.
You're bringing up the point that I was gonna say is, what is popcorn?
It's a snackable.
Scott BennerYeah.
Jenny SmithRight?
It's not usually something that you're going to sit down and really consciously pay attention unlike sitting down to a steak dinner with broccoli.
Right?
Yeah.
You're enjoying it.
Jenny SmithYou're chewing it.
You're probably having conversation, but still really paying attention in a slow manner.
Mhmm.
When we're talking about a movie theater and popcorn, one, we're in a dark environment.
Our brain is entirely focused on the movie or the previews that we're watching.
Jenny SmithYep.
There's no conscious accounting of how many handfuls you're stuffing in your face because you're not paying attention.
So that's why that at least start with a known amount, that small empty cup, dip it in, take your portion, bolus for it, and then acknowledge if you can pay enough attention.
Right?
Scott BennerKettle corn is actually less impactful than movie theater popcorn.
It's got much less fat in it if you
Jenny SmithOh, it's more sugar, but it's less.
Mhmm.
Scott BennerBut sodium's lower.
That's interesting because it's more that so they the the popcorn is a delivery system.
Jenny SmithOh, yeah.
Scott BennerYeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And for whatever else is is is Chinese like Duh.
Jenny SmithYes.
Thanks.
Scott BennerWhat's that what's the one Cracker Jacks.
Right?
Jenny SmithOh, Cracker Jacks.
Scott BennerI don't like them.
Funny.
Because they put
Jenny Smithpeanuts in like that either.
Scott BennerWhy would you put peanuts in food?
It's ridiculous.
Jenny SmithAnd I was always I remember as a kid, like, always came with that silly little dumb prize in the box.
Scott BennerIt was never a good prize.
Jenny SmithIt was never good.
Yeah.
I was always disappointed.
Like I and never even ate the like, shook the whole box out just to get the dumb prize, and I was like, two pieces of Cracker Jacks, I got a dumb prize.
I'm done.
Scott BennerThey didn't learn from McDonald's.
McDonald's knew to put, a decent toy in there.
Right.
Yeah.
Cracker Jacks.
Scott BennerWell, I'll tell you, gotta give it to Amazon.
They do a good job with the nutrition labels.
Cracker Jack's total carbs, 23 per serving.
Serving's about a half a cup.
Sugar's 14 grams.
Scott BennerTwo grams of fat.
It's it's a lot of it's a lot of sugar on popcorn.
Jenny SmithRight.
Scott BennerSo I I've never looked up food labels on so many different popcorns before in my life.
Like, popcorn doesn't seem like it should be difficult to bowl us for.
Jenny SmithIt's pretty carb.
Scott BennerIt's It's the delivery system, isn't it?
It's how you're eating it, not what you're eating.
Right.
In the scenario.
Jenny SmithYou brought up what SmartPop.
There's also SkinnyPop.
Scott BennerMhmm.
Jenny SmithI'm trying to think of the lesser evil is one as well.
Scott BennerIs that actually called lesser evil?
Jenny SmithIt's lesser evil.
It's usually made with avocado or coconut oil instead of, like, all the processed refined types of oils.
Yeah.
Thus, lesser evil.
Scott BennerSkinny pop total carbs nine grams for
Jenny SmithA bag.
Scott BennerThis bag.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The small, like, be a grabbable bag.
No sugar.
More fat than you would think.
Scott BennerSix grams of fat.
Sodium is pretty low at 50.
Yeah.
Okay.
Lesser evil popcorn?
Jenny SmithYeah.
It's a name brand of of popcorn.
Scott BennerNice.
Okay.
Adding Candy to the Mix
Scott BennerBut let's go back to the movies for a
Jenny Smithsecond.
Scott BennerYes.
Now we've got our popcorn.
Let's hope we're we've measured it out.
I don't know.
We have some aside, but now we're gonna get candy too.
Scott BennerSo Oh.
You said you have one candy.
You were telling me before we started.
What is it?
Jenny SmithSo the funny thing is that when my husband and I first started dating, movies were definitely a thing that we did.
Right?
And his go to always, without knowledge too much about, like, my diabetes like, knew I had diabetes, but, like, not really what was good
Scott Benneror good there.
Jenny SmithNot as focused.
His had always been Raisinets
Scott BennerOkay.
Jenny SmithAnd Junior Mints.
Scott BennerOh, Junior Mints.
Nice.
Jenny SmithSo both of those are and, you know, again, I could really care less about them, but I did know in terms of my management that I absolutely had to use, you know, a fair amount of insulin.
This is really just sugar.
Scott BennerWas a young Jenny Smith on a date?
Did you feel like, oh, I should grab a couple mints out of here so I don't seem weird?
Jenny SmithOh, no.
No.
I was willing to share a couple.
Scott BennerOkay.
Jenny SmithBut I've never like a sweet eater, I've never been give me the whole big that's why, like, gummy bears don't do like, can't
Scott BennerYou hit a number.
You oh, I can't do anymore.
Jenny SmithPick one gummy bear, and I'm I'm good.
Even if it's for a low, I'll eat the whole thing if I absolutely needed to, but, like, just well, like, it's a sugar overload to me.
So something like, I'll have one or two knowing he was totally gonna eat that.
Scott BennerTake take care of the
Jenny Smithrest of them.
Of right here.
Scott BennerTo make you feel old, but the top return on Google is do junior mints still exist?
Jenny SmithI've seen them at the
Scott BennerThey do, by the way.
Jenny SmithBut that's just like I've seen them at the grocery.
Scott BennerThere's no reason to make old people feel like that.
Junior mints, 26 carbs for 12 pieces.
So over a
Jenny Smithlittle It's about two grams
Scott Bennerof cheese.
Two a piece.
Mhmm.
And so that's the next thing.
So now I have I should get a piece of paper for a second.
Jenny SmithSo now we're adding candy on top.
Thank you for using my candy, by the way.
Scott BennerOh, of course.
Please.
Jenny SmithYou know one of my favorite things about junior mince was this is kinda weird, but, like, I didn't need many, and I could enjoy them because I like the shape and how it felt when it melted in my mouth.
Scott Benner100%.
Jenny SmithIt's a little dome, and it's got a little divot in the bottom of it.
Scott BennerI know.
And I just feel the divot with your tongue.
Jenny SmithLike, you can feel it.
Yeah.
And, like, it just melted lovely in my mouth.
Scott BennerI prefer a slightly stale ginger mint.
I like it when it's a little stiff.
I also like gummy bears better when they're stale and peeps.
Jenny SmithOh.
Scott BennerWhen do you know what Peeps are?
Yeah.
Peeps come into the house.
I take a knife.
Jenny SmithIn the pack?
Scott BennerI slice it open, and I let them sit for a day or two, and then I eat them.
And they're almost hard and gummy, and I don't know why
Jenny Smiththat's like
Scott BennerI like them that way.
But hold on.
How many so let's say I don't know.
What's reasonable?
Handfuls of popcorn.
Scott Benner10?
Jenny SmithI'd say at least 10 handfuls.
I mean, think about how easy it is to mindlessly
Scott BennerYeah.
Jenny SmithGrab handful after hand.
I would say 10 is a reasonable number of handfuls to expect somebody would eat.
Scott BennerWeird question.
Do you put the popcorn in your mouth or throw it in your mouth?
Jenny SmithOh, I I I put it in my mouth.
I it drives me crazy.
People were like, like, they shove it and then it's falling.
Like, it drives me crazy.
Like, just put it nicely in your mouth and chew.
Scott BennerAt my funeral, I believe Kelly will stand up and go, that son of a bitch threw popcorn in his mouth at a movie theater.
I am like a like, I bounce it, get it into a kind of and I just toss it in.
That's funny.
I'm also not putting like a I'm not shoving it across my face while I'm doing it.
It's not I'm not on fear factor small child.
Scott BennerTrying to get a, scorpion pie down or something like that, which should tell you what I watched on TV last night.
It's just it's a little a little, like, toss.
Jenny SmithIt's like a little game.
Scott BennerOh, she hates it.
She's funny.
It's like, just put the vodka in your mouth.
I'm like, I don't know why I do it like this.
So 10 cups, five carbs a piece.
Final Calculations and Fat Content
Scott BennerThat's what you said.
Right?
Yep.
So we get 50 from that.
Jenny SmithYes.
Scott BennerAnd that's carbs.
I'm gonna take the 12 pieces.
It feels silly, like isn't it funny?
It feels silly saying junior mince 12 pieces, but okay.
Right.
Scott Benner26 carbs because no one eats that way.
And then I wanna go back to the fat for the movie theater popcorn.
Jenny SmithOkay.
Scott BennerSo 20 cups with butter is about 60 or six listen.
I also this is the Internet.
I'm not sure about this.
I don't know.
I don't even know where you'd figure this out because you're drizzling the butter on yourself afterwards.
Scott BennerSo I don't know how you're gonna
Jenny SmithWhich is why I'm expecting it's an estimate of what they've
Scott BennerYeah.
There's a big range estimate here.
Yeah.
Jenny SmithYeah.
So I would take the middle.
Scott BennerThe middle's 60.
Yeah.
That's right?
Okay.
Alright.
Scott BennerWe're gonna see fat.
And then it's gonna be something else.
You want Twizzler?
Jenny SmithI'm curious.
How much fat is there without drizzling the extra yellow syrup on?
Scott BennerIt's not that easy.
Hold on.
Popcorn Nutrition, Regal Theaters.
I god.
Is this the I mean, trust me.
Scott BennerThey can barely get people to come to the movies.
They're not putting great information online for this.
Jenny SmithI'd expect a large has to already have 25 or so grams.
Scott BennerI'm gonna try to find the nutrition facts just for the the butter.
Jenny SmithOh.
Scott BennerI don't know if I can do that.
Yeah.
Oh, wait.
Movie theater butter.
No.
Scott BennerThat's Orville Redenbacher.
Jenny SmithThat's the pop it in your microwave and
Scott BennerThere's a food data website.
Movie theater popcorn movie theater with added butter.
I mean, if we take this at its word, I guess, a kid size order, 84 grams, do one cup.
One cup, yeah, 4.4 carbs, it's saying it's saying 8.2 fat for a cup.
See, if you took that number, then we're at 80 for 10 cup or for for 10 cups.
Jenny SmithTrue.
Scott BennerYou know?
So, I mean, I think the answer here is good luck getting a good nutritional count on movie theater popcorn with your butter on it.
But, like, just think of it as either five grams of carbs per cup, and if there's butter on it and you're a person counting fat, count some fat.
Right.
And if not, don't act surprised ninety minutes later when your blood sugar's two fifty and it won't move no matter what you do.
Scott BennerThat's pretty much and by the way, if you're gonna add the junior mints, good luck just being two fifty.
Because then you're gonna basically, you're gonna take the popcorn carbs, you're gonna stretch the digestion out with the buttery flavored topping, and then you're gonna supercharge the whole thing with a rocket made out of junior mints.
Jenny SmithCorrect.
Scott BennerThat's where the high comes from at the at the movie theater.
Jenny SmithAnd if you're like a friend of mine, she put raisinets in the popcorn and then took handfuls of both of them at the same time to eat together.
There there's something else that's
Scott BennerI like a milk dud, I wanna say, the theater.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jenny SmithI never liked
Scott Bennerthat.
No.
I used to like the cookie dough bites before they ruined them.
Started making them, but they had all egg in them.
I guess people got sick.
Scott BennerBunch of lightweights.
I could handle it.
And then they changed it to make it safer for you, now they're not good anymore.
So that's what you get with your safety.
You nerf the world, now cookie dough bites suck.
Scott BennerGood for you.
So sorry.
I really didn't care.
I was just like, I just won't get this ever again.
I'm a more of a, like, mix my popcorn with pretzel bites kind of person
Jenny SmithOh.
Scott BennerNow that I'm an adult.
But at the same point, like, even they suck.
You know what I mean?
You don't know, Jenny.
But let me tell you something.
Scott BennerYou pay a thousand dollars for seven pretzel bites.
By the time you get to your seat, they're cold already, and they're hard.
Jenny SmithAnd they're they're probably really, like, stiff.
Right?
Scott BennerIt's like going to McDonald's.
If you don't eat it piping hot, like, ten minutes later, you're like, what is what am I putting in my mouth exactly?
You you know what I mean?
At least the popcorn.
The popcorn's the popcorn.
Scott BennerI do wanna try to find buttery flavored popcorn topping.
It's almost one time.
Oh, okay.
Jenny SmithDid you find it?
Scott BennerOh, it comes in jugs that would horrify you.
Hold on a second.
This one's made by Amish Country Popcorn Buttery Topping, I have to say.
Jenny SmithAre these, Costco sized tubs?
Scott BennerI mean, it's it's a 128 fluid ounce.
It's a gallon.
I'm gonna just say earlier when I said about the cheesy flavored popcorn, we use the Amish country cheesy flavored popcorn is the one we actually use.
Jenny SmithOh, the the flavoring that
Scott BennerI'm so embarrassed.
Jenny SmithThat.
That's so funny.
Yeah.
Scott BennerThere you company in Indiana.
I'm sure they're doing good work out there.
There is no nutrition label on this.
Yeah.
Oh, wait.
Scott BennerNo.
There is.
God bless the world.
Alright.
No carbs.
Scott BennerNo cholesterol.
14 grams of fat per serving.
Jenny SmithCholesterol, which means that this does not have butter in it.
Scott BennerYes.
Well, that's why they call it buttery flavored topping, but I'm gonna flip you out right now.
There is 14 grams of fat in a serving.
What's the serving size?
Because everybody just heard that and thought, oh, in a cup of it, there's 14 grams of fat.
Scott BennerBut no, Jenny.
There's 14 grams of fat
Jenny SmithA tablespoon?
Scott BennerIn a tablespoon of it.
Jenny SmithYeah.
Scott BennerIn a tablespoon of it.
So when you're standing over at that machine and you're going, and you're spinning your popcorn and jostle it up and down, it probably would be safer to run out in front of a car.
So so anyway, if you're wondering why movie theater popcorn is hitting you like this, this is the conversation right here.
Mhmm.
Let's tie this one up with just making popcorn with coconut oil.
Jenny SmithOkay.
Scott BennerLike, so I would tell you, just from a personal experience, I don't really Arden boluses for it pretty much just like a carb.
Like, she
Jenny Smithpretty That's all I do.
Scott BennerYeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jenny SmithI I bolus for it as if it's a carbohydrate.
I give it a pre bolus, and I eat my popcorn.
Scott BennerYeah.
That's it.
Right?
You're not really doing more or less than that.
So No.
Scott BennerSo in a nutshell, in a raisin nutshell, if you when people ask about popcorn, popcorn, popcorn, popcorn is, in your opinion, it's more about what's on top of it.
Yes.
And that could be topping, like, buttery flavor topping at the theater.
It could be, you know, sugar in the form of kettle corn.
It could be anything like that.
Scott BennerBut it's the impact probably comes more from either not understanding the fat content if you're at the theater and probably the mix of something else in there and or the kind of chaotic way that you take it in over time.
Jenny SmithCorrect.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I mean, I've had random people who've said, you know, I have popcorn like the skinny pop or the smart pop or whatever and have said, you know, I feel like I also get a little blip up in blood sugar later on from it.
Jenny SmithDigestively, we are all a little bit different.
I can say my n of one is that that doesn't happen to me.
Scott BennerYeah.
Jenny SmithEbola is cover it.
I don't end up having anything else happen after that I have to cover sometimes in this yeah.
Scott BennerThe skinny crop did have more fat in it than something else, but it's probably trying to make up for the flavor of not having whatever it is they did to cut the carbs down on it.
Jenny SmithRight.
Scott BennerYeah.
Yeah.
God.
What did they do to to cut the carbs down on it?
Jenny SmithI don't
Scott BennerI I can't anyway, I love popcorn.
I don't like, I don't like getting the kernel stuck in my teeth afterwards, but don't forget to get those out.
If you like a sore, like, if your gum gets sore and you realize, like, two days later, there's a popcorn kernel in there, It's very upsetting.
Jenny SmithIt is upsetting or that it's, like, worked its way out, and you can finally feel it along the side of your tooth.
And you're like, I wasn't there before.
Scott BennerI know.
But there's, something you're like, what is that?
Jenny SmithI did this three days ago.
Scott BennerAnd then you do that thing where you go, like, oh, I had popcorn the other night while we're watching a movie.
Is that what this
Jenny SmithUh-huh.
Yes.
Scott BennerDo you feel like we covered this pretty well?
Jenny SmithNo.
That was it's a great one to bring up.
Scott BennerYeah.
Okay.
Cool.
Alright.
Well, I appreciate it.
Scott BennerI'll talk to you later.
Jenny SmithCool.
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