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Melissa's son drank a case of water a day. The pediatrician wouldn't poke his finger. Eighteen months later: a 5.4, and a mom learning to let go.
Jump to a moment
- The weight loss looked like puberty. The water was the tell — Melissa watched her son empty a 24-bottle case in a single day, and nothing in her family history had taught her what that meant.
- Her husband asked a pediatrician's office to prick a finger and was told no without an appointment. He drove to the ER instead, where it took seconds: type 1, in DKA, ambulanced to the PICU.
- She went hard into low carb at diagnosis and pulled back about four months in — not because it wasn't working, but because a 14-year-old walking into high school already felt different enough.
- When Bennett adjusted his own basal rate without asking, their nurse practitioner stopped Melissa mid-sentence: a person willing to change their own settings is one of the strongest predictors of long-term success. Congratulate him, don't correct him.
- Her own labs had been called normal for years. A functional medicine visit found a TSH of 4.8, low B12, low vitamin D and sex hormones out of range — and treating those, then adding a GLP, is what finally made her feel like herself.
- Halloween Candy Carb Counts — Carbs, fat and protein for 68 of the most common Halloween candies, plus the favorite-candy vote
- Tandem Mobi with Control-IQ+ — The pump Bennett switched to in December, after eleven months on MDI
- Eversense 365 — One insertion a year, with unlimited data sharing through the Eversense Now app
- Touched By Type 1 — Annual conference, D-Box, Dancing for Diabetes, golf night and local kids' dance programs
- Juicebox Podcast Pro Tip Series — The management fundamentals Melissa found in her first days after diagnosis
Every word of the conversation
Welcome, and Halloween Carb Counts0:03
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Meet Melissa, Mom of Three Boys2:28
Hello, everyone. My name is Melissa. I am a mom to three boys, and my oldest son has type one diabetes.
Why at this ungodly hour do you have that much energy, Melissa? What's going on?
I'm usually awake so much earlier. So I took the morning to sleep in to seven. I'm usually up by five. So
Wait. I
think I've had my coffee and...
Okay. There's so much I don't understand. Why are you up at five? Is it to go to work?
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. May I suggest to all of you getting a podcast? Because this leaving the house thing is for the birds. Do you you don't... Do do you leave the house?
I mean, what do you... You get up at... Alright. Hold on. You have children.
There a is there a guy you're generously letting live with you too?
I do have an amazing husband, and he does the entire morning routine with our family. He's done that for
Oh, Melissa, say it.
Ten years? Yeah. He's just
Just say I got a sucker on the line. That's all. That's all. I I see. You drifting through the morning, shower, maybe a shave every couple of days, like, that kind of thing out into the world.
Hey, everyone. Mommy's here. And then right out the door?
I don't even see them. I'm up before them and gone before them usually.
You got it worked out, Melissa. I didn't realize. Okay. Alright. Alright.
Yeah. Solid. What time do you leave the house?
I leave no later than 06:15.
Oh, you're freaking me out. I... We started this at 9AM, and at 08:50, I was like, you gotta get out of bed, man. The last thing I said before I said goodnight to my wife last night was how in God's name did I let a recording on my schedule at 9AM?
Well, I appreciate it. I was like, I can make that work. Oh
my god. What do you do? Are you, like, are you the president or something? You must have a very important job.
Up at Five, COO by Six4:19
I am a COO for a real estate and property management company.
Oh, you guys gotta... Well, you you start taking people... It starts early in the morning getting people out to houses and stuff like that, or is there just this business happen early? Why? I'm just saying why can't this start at 10AM is all I'm asking you.
My day starts early so that I can get actual work done before everyone else is in the office and meetings start and, you know, the day just
Why do you have energy for this? How... We... So you have three kids?
I do have three boys.
Does the the... Oh my god. Do you really? Does your husband... Is he like a stay at home dad?
He isn't. He owns, three of his own businesses. But because of that, there's flexibility, of course, for him to kind of manage his own time and schedule the way that he needs to. So he's not as bound to an office and, able to When to be around much more than...
When you say three businesses, you mean, like, he's a contractor who also, like, has a yard full of wood and and a truck. And he says he's, like, the delivery guy. He's the wood guy, and he... Not... Nothing like that.
That's, by the way, a loophole in the tax system if you wanna go look into it. I don't I don't do it personally.
I probably should, honestly. Oh, don't tell anyone I said that.
Well, I mean, you're telling a lot of people you just set up the everyone. But... No. No. Seriously, how does he have three businesses?
You don't have to be super specific. Yeah.
Yeah. Like small businesses. He has a handyman company. He has an inspections inspections company, company, and and then then he he has has a landscaping company that he actually partners with a couple other people on. So it's all like field services that...
Is he a go getter, or are you very demanding? Which is it exactly?
Oh, goodness gracious. I'd say a little bit of both. Probably more so than my my being demanding, but I actually have not encouraged this. He he has done all this on his own. So...
I like I like the idea of you, like, looking at him at six in the afternoon and going, lot of idle time. We could be making money. Right?
Oh, man.
Get out there.
Poor guy. He's gonna die when he listens.
Well, listen. I know what's going on. I mean, he's probably scared. But, how old are your kids?
So my oldest, the one with type one, is 15. He's actually turning 16 in a week, so we're in the midst of all that crazy. And then my middle son is 14, and my youngest is 11.
Wow. Okay. And all boys. Is the dog a boy? All boys.
We do not have a dog. Smart. Yeah. Yeah.
That's smart.
We've tried a couple times and it just...
Can I be? Can I ask, do you have three kids? Because you kept thinking like this one will be a girl. Or...
It's a great question. For the third child, we knew it would be our last. Like I I... We didn't want more than three children. But I did have a deep seated hope that it would have been a girl.
And I remember it was the only child where we did a gender reveal because I was like, it's the last one. We should make it fun. So I had all my friends and family. We were hosting like this big party, which was probably a bad idea because it ended up being a boy and my emotions. I had to like really hold in a little bit of sadness.
Now looking back, obviously, so grateful and I love him and he's like the perfect little cherry on top of our family. But at that time, I was a little bit sad. But I'm like, well, I'm definitely not going for a fourth. Like, we're... It's not
happening first. The blue smoke goes up in the air. You bend at the waist, put your hands on your knees, and then the video just... The audio bleeps out when you're like, son of a bitch. And then you do...
Pretty much. You Pretty much.
Got in
the car, and I started crying at the end of it. I got in the car, and I was like, oh my god. I gotta let this out. I'm so sad.
Did you ever tell your husband this is clearly your fault?
I have I have alluded to it. I'm like, man, we just, like, can't produce females. What is
happening? My last question that has nothing to do with this. But were you down to, like... Like, when I was a kid, they used to say silly stuff, like, try a different position when you're... Like, did you do did you do...
I mean, I know, by the way, that can't possibly have any, like, basis in reality. But do you get to the point where you're like, hey. I got a book and it says if you... Can you hold yourself like that long enough? Like...
Or or do you not go that far?
Oh god. No. We did we did make jokes about it. Although what we actually ended up do... You know what I mean?
We would laugh and be like, what
if we did that? And then just get...
Or maybe I should drink this or eat this. Like, what is happening?
But in the end, it just happens the way god intended, drunk after a while. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yes. So my son was diagnosed. He was 14. It's been about eighteen months. It was last January Oh.
2025.
Well, this is why you still have energy. Okay. Alright.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, pros and cons of the timing of that diagnosis, I guess.
How did you find out? Like, what is it... What was the first thing that popped up, and what was the process of getting to the end? Yeah.
He Drank a Case of Water in a Day11:25
Yeah. So I started noticing that he was thinning out. He had been a little, like, chunky as a boy, and we started noticing that he was getting thinner. And part of me was just like, cool. He's hitting puberty.
He's growing. He had been going to the gym a bunch. And I'm like, great. He's kind of like finally growing into his skin. And this was like probably before Christmas of twenty twenty four.
We started noticing that he was getting thin. And then after Christmas, my husband and I had just gone on a trip to Nashville. We left our kids with our in laws for a long weekend, got back from the trip, and pretty much the entire week after we got back, he was not well. Like, was complaining he felt sick. He was drinking so much water, like empty bottles of...
I'm telling you, like, a case of 24 waters drank by him in like a day's time. And I'm like, that is just so strange. But we don't have any type one in our family. I really had never been exposed to type one throughout my life, so I I didn't know what some of those symptoms were. And then I remember so distinctly, had had some stomach pain and we still sent him to school.
He got home from school that afternoon. It was like a, I think it was a... No. It was a Monday night. It was a Monday he got home from school and he said, I'm really just not feeling well.
I got dizzy today at school. I couldn't see this computer screen. Like, I almost blacked out in the hallway. And I'm like, okay. Something is very wrong.
Yeah.
So I guess for better or for worse, I can kind of go down a rabbit trail. And that night I could not sleep. I was just Googling every set of symptoms. And I tried to Google like different sets of symptoms and everything said type one diabetes. It just kept anything I'd put in.
It was like type one, type one. So I was like, is this just me freaking out? I woke my husband up early that next morning. It was a Tuesday morning. I said, you know, I think I'm probably overreacting.
I can tend to do that. I'm going to go to work. Can you just take him into the pediatrician? And my husband was like, sure. Son woke up, had a stomachache.
Pediatrician Said No, Dad Said Hospital13:50
My husband was like, I'm just going to try to walk into the pediatrician. And they refused to see him. They were like, we were like, can you please just poke his finger?
Wait. Your husband went, first of all, a man brought a child to a pediatrician. And, like... So first, I I have been a stay at home dad most of my life. I have never seen another man in a pediatrician's office.
And my... Like, I walk in there all the time. People just look at me like, look at this guy
Why is he here?
Just leeching off that poor woman. I mean, what... He's even at the pediatrician's office. I've... People...
Like, the doctors would high five me. Like, I don't know how you work this out, my friend. Good job. Like, you know what mean? Like, there's not a lot of guy...
Anyway. So you go in there and say, my son was dizzy, almost passed out, couldn't see the computer yesterday. Can you see him? And they're like, no. No.
Thank you. Is that true?
Like, can you just... Yeah. Can you just prick... My husband was like, can you please just prick his finger? Like, we don't have a glucose meter at home.
Can you please just prick his finger? And they were like, we're really sorry. We can't do that without an appointment. And so my husband was like, f y'all, I'm going to the hospital. So my husband took him to...
There's like a ER hospital right around the corner from our house, Took him in there and literally within seconds of being in there, he called me. I had already gotten to work. I was sitting down in a, like, company all hands on meeting we have every Tuesday morning. He called me and I'm like, okay, I know he's with Bennett. I know that he's not well.
Let me answer this. I picked it up. He's like, you gotta get here. He has type one diabetes. And I just lost it.
Like one of those, like, you shouldn't really be driving the way that that hit me because I think for me, it was like, wasn't overreacting. Like, I I was right about it, and I think that surprised me.
More more?...
Been other instances of, like, you're just overreacting. You know what I mean?
Sorry. No. No. I was gonna ask a question, but you're in the middle of going like, you don't know me, Scott, but I've overreacted in the past.
But... Yeah. Yeah. I'm just gonna be honest.
Oh my gosh. More or less more or less, upset than when you found out the third one was a girl. Much more. Oh, okay. Well, there you
the type one. Yeah.
It's much much more.... Good balance then. I... Do you... This is apropos of nothing almost, but you never go back to the pediatrician's office again.
Right? Like, you just find a new one, or do you go back and and...
Exactly. No. We found a new one.
What what do you think is wrong with everybody? Do you sit and wonder ever?
I just think it's so sad and disappointing that it's all about, like, billables instead of actual patient care. You know?
It's fascinating. And and inability to think outside of whatever somebody's been told to do and... Like, you don't go get somebody and go, hey. These people, like, yeah, like, you know, they're asking for something pretty specific here. The kid's having a lot of problems.
We don't have an appointment. How do we work this out? No one can think. It's fascinating. Hey.
I wanna just point out to everyone how proud I was a few minutes ago when you said that you were on a trip to Nashville, and I didn't blurt out, oh, I just got back from Nashville last weekend.
It's the best place ever. I... I've been listening to so many episodes, we're talking about Tennessee. And I'm like, you should definitely move there. It is just the best.
I spent... Well, I'm gonna... At the end of this, I don't know if I'll record it or not, but I have a question about real estate I'm gonna ask you when I get to the end. Alright. Thank you.
Happy to help. Happy to help. Thank you. Okay. So do do you get somebody to drive you?
Do you get yourself there? How do you handle the next step?
I drove myself. I called my mom in the car, and I was like, I just need to be on the phone with you. I was crying. She was like, you just need to, like, focus on the road, please. But I drove myself.
It's like a forty minute drive back to the hospital that he was at. So I get there. They're like, we're we're needing to ambulance you to the downtown children's hospital. We're not equipped here. He needs to be in the ICU.
He's in DKA. And I'm like, what is all of this mean? I don't know what type one diabetes means. I don't know what DKA means. Can you guys just slow down a second?
And luckily one of my good friends, she's actually a nurse at this particular hospital that we we went to first. And she called ahead and was like, please take care of my friends. So they were amazing. But we ended up ambulancing to the Downtown Children's Hospital. That is a story in of itself, Scott.
That Hallway at the Children's Hospital18:12
Oh my word. We get to the downtown hospital. They had called ahead saying we were coming and, like, get a room ready for him on the PICU Floor. And so we get there and he's in a, you know, in a bed. They're wheeling him up and I'm walking alongside him.
My husband was like, I'll drive separate. You go in the ambulance because he knew that I wanted to be with him. And we get to the floor and the nurses are all like, wait, wait, wait. You can't come in here. And I'm like, what is happening?
This was already so traumatic so far. And they turn his bed into the hallway of the PICU to wheel him to his room. And the entire hallway is lined with all of the PICU nurses, doctors. It was like a processional. And I'm like, is this a birthday celebration?
Like, are they welcoming Bennett? Like, what is happening? And then it was actually like a...
A child just passed away?
Yes. A child had just died. Oh. And their family was being, like, escorted out. I was like, this cannot be real because I think for me, I'm like, oh my god.
Kids die on this floor. That was kind of what was going through my head. And then I'm thinking, okay. My 14 year old son, he's coherent. He can see what's happening.
He can hear what's being said to me after they finally got us in our room and closed the door. And they're like, we're just gonna keep that door closed for a little while.
Yeah. Oh, jeez. It
was Well, that's terrifying.
A lot of bad luck for everybody.
That was terrifying. And they felt so bad. I mean, I just... Timing was impeccable. But...
Yeah. That was wild.
Yeah. That's not a thing I imagine you can schedule. Also, I didn't realize that they did that. I thought that was a thing that just happened on television. But, that's
Maybe dependent on the hospital. I don't know. But they definitely were, like, taking that moment of silence with the family and
so sad. Yeah. No kidding. So in hindsight now, I know you said there's no type one in the family, but does anybody have autoimmune issues? Are you...
Have thyroid problems? Is there anything like that going on with anybody?
Hunting for Autoimmune in the Family20:20
Yeah. Great question. As soon as we found out about the type one, I immediately went into like full research mode of like, how does this happen? What is this? And so we started asking our family members, is there any autoimmune?
What's going on? My mother-in-law has, Hashimoto's and that's really it. I did end up getting my thyroid checked cause I was having some symptoms really like testament to listening to the podcast. That's been such a value add even just to me personally. And so I had gone and done a bunch of lab work this earlier in this year.
I don't have like the autoimmune thyroid. I do have hypothyroidism, but it doesn't seem to be the autoimmune type. I don't know.
But impacting But
no, other than her Hashimoto's, that's all I know. If he has historically had really bad allergies and I somehow feel like that is related. I don't know if that's actually science or just me trying to make some connection.
I'll tell you that I had terrible allergies growing up. My son does and did. I I mean, listen. What is an allergy but your body overreacting to an outside stimulant? Right?
So I don't know. That sounds like your immune system to me. Also, barely got through high school, so I mean, I wouldn't write that down anywhere. But it it it feels that way to me enough that I would pay attention to it for... Oh.
Yeah. Hey, by the way, listen to the podcast. Get your kids a one c down. Bonus, balance out your thyroid. Really, it's a full service free podcast....
P. Like, I'm like, you have...
Oh, did I fix you up?
Oh my gosh. I'm like, I feel like a million bucks. That's probably the energy. It's all you, Scott.
I swear to god.
You've got...
I swear to god that I got on the phone the other day with, well... So we we drove from the Northeast to Tennessee last weekend to look at a couple of houses. And, you know, when you're driving, you talk to people on the phone. It's funny you said you called your mom because you needed to talk to somebody on the way to the hospital. It made me remember the time I dropped my son in Atlanta.
The first time he didn't live at home anymore, and then I had to drive to... From Atlanta to see Arden in Savannah. And I called my brother because I was crying so hard when I left my son at that apartment that I thought it's not really safe for me to be driving and I have to leave. So I called my brother and I was like, hey. We're gonna talk about something.
Don't really care what it is. You you know what I mean? And he stayed on the phone with me for... Anyway, we're driving home. And, you know, we had seen a few houses and we were calling people and whatnot.
And I was... I don't wanna see who I was talk... Talking to, but I was talking to someone who I helped get onto a GLP just through, like, kind of, like, you know, making them feel comfortable about it, who then subsequently's entire family got on one. And they were telling me that the four of them combined had lost over 300 pounds.
Oh my word.
And to see them in a photograph, you just genuinely would not know it's them. Yeah. And they tell me this really lovely story, and I just turned to my wife in the car, you know, we're on speakerphone, and I go, you see this? And she goes, what? I said, I'm saving people all over the place.
You really are, Scott. You really are.
They're on the phone. They're like, we're still here. I'm like, just give me a second.
That's fantastic.
Mother Teresa needs a minute. Okay? No. That's fantastic. Nobody ever throws a party for Mother Teresa.
Let's have a half a second. Also, I don't know if that's a... I'm not religious. I don't know if I've just said something that's offended any of you.
I meant to. But but and
I also don't think I'm Mother Teresa. I would not wash your feet a million percent if you showed up here. Melissa, I just want you to know that for sure. If you said wash my feet, I'd go, it's okay. So...
But but it's, I'm glad I'm glad you're doing better. Maybe we'll get to that if we can. I wanna know how your son at that age having gone through that whole process, how does it, I I guess I'd just like to know, like, like, step through the eighteen months. Initial impact, how does he absorb it? What is your feeling?
Are you even able to think of, a parent at that point? Are you just, like, trying to stay alive? And then how quickly does technology come or not come? How how do you fold into your life? How does he feel today?
Yeah. I think initially, like in the hospital, he was so calm. He was so resilient. He was saying things to me. Like, it actually...
I look back and have done, excuse me, so much reflection over the past eighteen months on how I responded and how I have continued to respond and then looked at him and how he's responded in certain moments. And I'm just so proud of him, because I think in a moment where really he he probably should have been the one upset. He was so calm, and he was like, we're gonna get through this. I'm gonna be okay. We're gonna figure this out.
I love math. This carb counting that they're teaching us is fun. Like, he really responded so well initially. I think initially because I went into, like, full blown research mode, that can take you down so many rabbit holes Mhmm. That may or may not be the right fit for your family long term.
Low Carb, and Why She Pulled Back25:58
Right? So I think I found the low carb world very quickly and was really adamant that we tried to go that direction. And I think I I look back and maybe regret that a little bit because I think it changed some of his relationship with food. He doesn't... I wouldn't say that he has any sort of disorder, but I think I went way too far left in an extreme direction thinking that was the best way or the only way.
Yeah. And about, I don't know, probably four or five months in, I said, you know what? I think I need to scale back the pressure about this because I want him to be a teenage kid that can go get pizza with his buddies, and I want him to get an ice cream cone and like the things that I thought we couldn't do.
You realize you can't.
I really said that's that's actually not true. And so I think the podcast helped with that tremendously. The online community helped me with that. Seeing how other people have navigated well, regardless of their diet choices really helped me. And I think it helped him because at the beginning, that was probably what was hardest for him is feeling like he couldn't just be a normal person.
Everything changed instead of this one thing changing. Mhmm. Yeah. I... You know, it's funny.
I I hope... I don't know if it'll actually come out this way, when the... When it comes out in the podcast, but it happened this way for recording. I sat... I I sit down every day and record with somebody.
Right? I I I genuinely don't know who they are or what they're gonna say when I I get here. I... As you heard nine minutes before we started this, I was in bed willing myself out of bed. So I'm, I pop on with this lady, and she tells this story about similar to you, like, kid got diagnosed, like, really went whole hog, low carb, and now just thinks that, like, it was such a a huge mistake.
And they even thinks that one of her other children, you know, was on their... She's... She was very careful to say it. She doesn't think low carb dieting, like, gave her child an eating issue. But she had another child who was not type one who was probably the...
I think in her words, like, on her way to it anyway, but feels like that this pushed her into a really... Anyway, she was, like, really on to say, learn how to bolus. You don't need to be like, blah blah blah. The very next day, I pop on with a woman who's like, I've been eating low carb since I was diagnosed. It really saved my life, and she was so, like, thoughtful about it.
And it really just made me... Like, it it gave me... I think because they happened back to back, and these two people had such real, honest, I don't know, experiences that were completely opposite of each other really made me feel like it's good for some people and not for others just like everything else. And why do we get online? And, like like, when I recorded them, I'm like, oh god.
Low carb people are gonna yell at me. They're gonna think I did this. Like like, when the one woman was talking, like, she was adamant. I was like, oh, I'm gonna come off as, like, anti low carb for having her on, which I'm not. I couldn't possibly...
I genuinely could not possibly care less how you eat. But it's... But it is interesting. I do feel like I've identified the pathway to it. It's diagnosed or having big trouble trying things usually without all the tools or ideas that don't work out.
The the obvious common math is take the carbs away. You do that, things settle in, level out, whatever you wanna say, and then you think, oh, this is the answer. And then I think some people like eating that way or, you know, it fits their lifestyle and some don't. That's it. I...
Listen. You know?
People post their graphs and, you know, everyone's posting their highlight reel, not their real life. You know? And so I think that really... Initially, at the very beginning, I was looking at these low carb people's graphs and I'm like, okay, this is the way I keep my son healthy. And I, I believe every person in every family has to make the best choice for them.
And I don't think low carb is wrong by any means. I think at the moment in time where we were going down that path, I just look back and reflect and say, at the age of 14, going into high school, like navigating so much already, that was just one more thing I think he felt like was different now. Mhmm. And he could make the choice in the future to eat however he'd like to eat.
Yeah. Yeah.
But I think I I realized, like, I think this is just not the right moment in time to be trying to force this on him.
Plus there's a moment when you've just had one too many bacon wrapped cheeseburger chicken wings, and you're like, uh-oh. I I can't do this anymore. Yeah. It was for me at least. You know?
I mean, the Atkins diet was huge when I was younger.
Mhmm.
And, apparently, I was huge. So as I tried the Atkins diet, and, just... I just realized where that sentence was going as it was coming out. And it wasn't not valuable, and I didn't not feel terrific, like like, almost having no carbs every day and all this stuff. Like, I I agree with everybody who talks about, like, the value of, like, eating low carb.
I don't disagree at all, actually. But for me, it was just this one day. Was like, I can't eat another piece of chicken. I'm gonna I'm gonna die. Like, it it felt like that.
Like... And it's funny now. My... When my my wife said to me the other day, the GLP really is interesting in so many different ways. And she...
And I said, what what are you thinking right now? Like, what makes you bring it up? And she said, you really don't need as much food as you think you do. Mhmm. And I was like, yeah.
I I guess so. Like, just the mass of food, the actual amount of it. Mhmm. I'm incredibly... Like, I'm doing as well as I've ever done in my entire life.
So is she. We're very healthy and, like like you said, like, full of energy and, like, etcetera, the whole thing. And we just don't eat as much as we used to. And and back then, everything felt like... And I do wonder how much of it is just, like, I'm gonna say marketing.
You'll understand what I mean in a second. But, like, that idea of, like, big portions or I'm paying for this. I want a lot. You know what I mean? I paid for it.
I should eat it. Like, that whole... Like, they're starving kids and blah blah blah. Like, you know, I mean, I I don't know how old you are, but every day I didn't finish everything on my plate, my mom would tell me there were starving children in Africa.
My mom did not say that, but she was always like, finish your plate. Finish your plate. It was... It's that mindset of, I think, how you grew up really shapes I think a lot of the decisions you end up making as an adult.
Yeah. And, for me growing up broke, I have... I used to have that feeling of like, oh, I paid for this. Like like, I'm bad.
You'd waste it.
Oh my god. Like, you... You've never met a person, like, you know, who goes in the in the vegetable drawer and finds like, oh, how did we not see these carrots? They're smushy now. And, like, you know, they're a dollar 99 for three pounds of carrots, and I'm dropping them in the trash.
And I'm like, I I feel like I let the world down when I do that. And it's still with me. Like, you know, to this... Anyway, point being, you know, I I guess the point being is if you wanna eat low carb, there's a lot of great reasons to do it. And, I don't disagree with any of them.
If it's not for you, then it's one of those things that's really not for you. I think is the way I've come to think of it. Yeah. For sure. And I
think it... Because he's forts... Like, he was 14 at that time. And I'm thinking, this kid, he's going into he's transitioning into, like, manhood. Right?
Like, he's developing sense of self and independence, and he's trying to find his own way. And so I think it also just felt to me like this is not this isn't worth the fight and the battle that is likely to happen.
Yeah. I
saw...... Also isn't worth the impact it could potentially have on him.
Yeah. And you sniffed it out as a parent. You're like, this doesn't seem right. So Yeah. So am I right about my supposition though?
Like, you started in the beginning not really understanding how to use the insulin very well, and so everything creates these, like, rocketing ups and downs. It... Does that happen to you?
Eleven to Five Point Four34:28
Actually, no. No? I I think it was so funny. I was very proud of myself for this. In the hospital, one thing I will say about our local children's hospital, we...
From all the horror stories I've heard through the podcast, we have received exceptional, exceptional care. I am so, so grateful to the diabetes team that supported us. We were in the hospital for four days and we had two full days, eight hour days of education, one on one with an educator who came into our room and walked through things step by step. And then in all of my downtime, I was just reading, reading, reading research papers, everything I could find online. I mean, I think I found the Juice Pots podcast Facebook group the first day of diagnosis.
So I think we actually got a really good grip and handle on the general, like basics Mhmm. Pretty early on. I think we were MDI for the first eleven months. Those largely... My son wanted to be on a pump pretty quickly.
Like, he wanted to get on a pump in May. So, you know, three, four months in, he wanted to be on the Omnipod five. My insurance wouldn't cover that. So I was like, listen, here are your options. We have to wait for my new insurance plan so I can switch my plan to get the coverage, which is a year from now, or we can go on tandem or you can stay MDI, like you decide what you want to do.
And
so we deliberated over that for several months together. But when we... So we were pretty smooth sailing. Everything was good, but obviously, you know, basal rates on MDI is a little bit different and it was kind of a moving target because he was hormonal and growing and things like that. So we had to dial that in.
But I think once we got that dialed in, everything else was pretty good. I think he was also honeymooning for a lot of that time because pre bolus was not as much of a thought process that... As it is today. I'm like, did you pre bolus? I can tell you didn't pre bolus.
But... So I think we were... I mean, his a one c was 11 in the hospital. And by June of that year, it was down to five. So...
And with like a standard deviation of 20, 19 or 20. So he was pretty well controlled and still largely is, you know, there's good days and bad days, but his most recent a one c was 5.4. He got on the Tandem Moby pump in December of last year. And that... It was funny because I was really, really scared.
I'm like, god, we finally have figured this all out and now we're gonna change it again. And what if things are worse? And the first week on the pump, was like, oh my god, we should have done that sooner. This has taken so much of a load off of me mentally. So I'm so grateful for the technology.
He's on, Dexcom G seven. We got that two weeks after the hospital. They are really weird here about doing finger pokes to like learn the way in case technology fails you. So we didn't get his first Dexcom. I think it was like ten days after the hospital stay.
And that was also revolutionary and life changing in many ways. It also became something that I was hyper fixated on for a very long time and had to really learn to set some boundaries and trust alarms so that it wasn't consuming everything in my headspace all the time.
Refreshing a CGM That Updates Every Five Minutes38:20
Okay.
Because I was checking that, like, it would be, like, three minutes ago, and I'm refreshing. Like, something's gonna happen in the... You know what I mean? Like, this refreshes every five minutes, Melissa. Calm the freak down.
Can you can you contextualize what made you look and look and look?
It's inter... I think I was just so fearful, and I don't even know of what. I think I was honestly so much more fearful of highs than I was of lows, which is interesting because I feel like I listened to most people's stories, and most people, it's like the inverse.
Yeah.
But I was so afraid of the effects highs have long term. And I'm like, he can't be at 200 for two hours. Like, that is unacceptable. And I've really worked through that. I mean, I started having...
Doing some, like, personal therapy, I don't know, probably six months ago because I was like, this cannot be what consumes me.
Hey. You're doing it by yourself or with a therapist? I've never heard anybody say personal personal therapy. Are you therapizing yourself?...
Into... No. I am not. That didn't work, Scott. That would be way cheaper, but it didn't work.
You're... I tried.
You you tried to self talk your way through it?
Yes. Yes. Can I be? Can I
can I ask a serious question? You sat quietly in a room and were like, Melissa, listen. You gotta stop. And it and No. No.
No. No. No. Okay.
Tried to just draw on the the tools and resources I've gained over my life to calm myself down, and it wasn't working.
Prefer the Tobey Maguire Spider Man where William Defoe was talking to himself in that weird room. I assumed you were just in a room, like, sitting on a sofa going, Melissa, listen. I think you're being overbearing. And then getting up and walking over to the other chair and sitting down and going, I just care about his health. And then...
No. Not that... Not quite that.
I will share. I'd... And, it'll come to no surprise to the people who leave leave reviews that I just talk about myself. But I will share that, I know exactly what you're saying. I would tell you that I have softened on the inside, but not completely about the idea of, like, blood sugars that are too high and stay too long.
I am learning a lot by watching Arden. And I think there are just some things about being type one that are not understandable if you're just not. And I know that's probably obvious, but, you know, like, one of the ideas is, like, you know, I I said to her the other day, was like, hey, you're gonna get low in a minute. And she's like, yeah, probably. And, like, when she was younger, I thought it was just, like, apathy.
And now I just think it's more about like... I mean, just... I don't know how much bandwidth you have to do something. You you know what I mean? And she's like, I know I'm gonna probably go to like 70 or 65 here and I'm gonna need a little food and maybe I won't feel okay for a half a second, but I can't quantify to you why I'm not getting up and doing something about it right now.
But I just know I'm not going to, and I'm also gonna be okay. Like, that...
That is so real in my life right now.
Yeah.
It's so real.
Right. Right. And so, like, you know, I don't know how many times you... I don't know. You know, listen.
I've been alive a while now, and I've raised a couple of kids into their twenties. And I've meshed together, you know, the the personalities and wants and desires and fears of, you know, a 20 year old girl that I met and myself. And all I can tell you is you can't make people do anything. You really just can't. And so if that's how she's going to live, then it's not up to me, and I couldn't possibly change her.
And do I think she'll always do what... I mean, I'm just using one example. Do I think she'll always do it exactly the way she does? I don't think so. Like, from listening to everyone's stories, what I think is going to happen is that she will morph and change and mature as she goes along and make different decisions and and decide that different things are important.
And I'm gonna hope that those decisions move her in a healthy direction. I also don't know that that will happen or not. And you can't... There's nothing you can do about it. The high blood sugars part, that one's easy for me.
I look at that and I go, what are we doing? Like, one eighty for an hour? Like, just bolus. You you you know what I mean? Like, like, throw a half a unit on this and, like, let's make this go away.
You know?
Bagels for Dinner at Two Ten43:00
Last night, he wanted to go to bed early, and, we're... He's in marching band in high school. So it's a very intense, rigorous situation.
Mhmm.
And he was so tired. He'd gotten home, and he's like, I just... Don't I wanna do anything tonight. I'm gonna finish my homework. I wanna go to bed early.
I said, okay, no problem. I don't even know what he fed himself for dinner. It was not from me. I'm like, what did you eat for dinner? Because his blood sugar was going up.
And he's like, I had bagels. I'm like, oh, great. This is going to be awesome.
You had bagels for dinner?
Bagels. I was like, there's leftovers in there. Why didn't you eat the chicken Caesar wraps that I made? Anyway, it doesn't matter. He ate bagels.
And so then he goes to sleep and I'm like, I go in there, I wake him up. I'm like, hey, bud, your blood sugar's two ten. It's been two ten for forty five minutes. I don't think we dosed enough for our bagels. Can you do a correction?
He did a correction, went back to sleep. I kept watching it. It did... Was doing nothing. I'm like, great.
He's laying there still. He ate bagels. I think he's probably needed to change his sight and didn't. So now absorption is in my head of, like, it's probably not absorbing the way we would normally see. You need to...
He probably needs to change his sight, but he was asleep. Didn't wanna do it. I go back in there. I'm like, I'm gonna give you another correction before I go to bed. So I gave him another correction.
I go to bed. I text my husband. I'm like, listen. When you get home... Because he was at baseball with my other son.
When you get home, if it is still above 200, please wake him up and make him change his sight. My husband got home. It was like one eighty. So my husband's like, I'm just gonna let it ride. It got down to one zero seven this morning, and my husband made him change his sight this morning.
But it's like, it's those moments where I think in the very beginning, I would not have let it go at all. I would have been too scared and I would have been like a dog with a bone. You have to do what I'm saying when I'm saying it. And I'm really trying to take a different approach to some degree, although, obviously, very much still care of, like, he's 15, about to be 16, about to be driving two years from college. Like, some of this, he has to define how he wants this to look for himself.
And as long as that's within reason, I have to be okay that this is not my body and this is not my complete full choice. And that's been really hard because I would say I'm a I'm a little bit of a control freak. You could ask anybody and they'd all probably agree. So it's been hard for me to let it go and say, like, I can't... I...
This is not personal to me and it's not defiance to me. This is him figuring some things out himself. And it's been hard. It's been really hard.
Yeah. Of course. Because the unknown part... Because it's him figuring things out for himself dot dot dot hopefully.
Mhmm.
Right? I I want... Know, I have to decide how it's his body, his choice, unless he doesn't understand what he's choosing, and then it's too late when he figures it out. Like, the dot dot dot stuff is the stuff that lives in your head, which by the way is completely real. I...
I'm very grateful that no one in my life has an addiction issue. I do think that watching someone not do something for themselves that leads to poor health must be how it feels to love somebody with an addiction problem. Like, I really feel like that that might be as... I'm hoping as close as I ever get to understanding that. This morning, listen, great example.
Right? This morning, I wake up. I know I joked about not getting out of bed until, like, the last minute, but I was up a little earlier than that. And I I was just in bed. I didn't get a lot of sleep.
Actually, if you wanna know, I was working on the podcast last night till 03:30 in the morning. Okay? So, it's not... I know none of you asked me to, but I was. And so I didn't get a lot of sleep.
I woke up around eight, and I was kind of pulling myself together. And then I realized, oh, Arden texted me thirty minutes ago. And it just said, my pod just expired. Would you grab one for me? I'm with the dog.
If I get up, he's gonna have to go pee. I don't wanna go through all that. I never saw that. So I texted her and I said, hey. I'm so sorry.
I didn't see this. And she goes, it's okay. My blood sugar is great. I'm just gonna jump in the shower first. And what I thought was, oh, well, that's going to be an unmitigated disaster.
But what I texted back was, okay. Well, if I have time, I'll go grab a pod and put it in your room. So it's there when you get out because that... What I wanted to say was hot water makes your blood sugar go up. You have not had basil running for thirty minutes, and the reason your blood sugar was 88 when you woke up is because I set a temporary target last night at 03:00 in the morning.
But I didn't say any of that. I just said, okay. Well, if I have time, I'll bring up a pod and leave it in your room. Now what I wanted to say was, I'm leaving a pod in your room, put it on immediately after exiting the shower, and don't forget to bolus all the missed basil plus any high blood sugar that you have right now, but I didn't say any of that. Instead, in case you're wondering what I all...
What I did is I let Arden's blood sugar fly up over 200 so that hopefully, she'll think to herself, this isn't really what I want. I should have just done those things that I know to do that my dad must have held back and not said, and it must have killed him not to say it out loud. Like, you really do have to have teaching moments. And as a parent, I've learned and from conversations and through my own experience that all of the things that I could have said, even though I could... I would have said them very nicely and they wouldn't have been pejorative or anything like that, would have just been met by her by, you can't take care of yourself.
You need me to tell you what to do. Mhmm. And that's not how I feel and definitely not how I want her to think I feel. So you horse trade inside your own soul with a little bit of health for a little bit of long term happiness and relationship building and and the hope that one day this all settles in. And I think...
And I guess that's the other part is we always think about the the times where things don't go well. But the reality is, like, he has a 5.4 a one c. He he handles all of his own everything 99% of the time, and he does it so well. So it's like instead of just me getting so hung up on the individual sporadic moments where it didn't go the way I would have liked it to go. Like, I think I'm really challenging myself to think through how can I celebrate when he does all the right things?
And it looks beautiful. And like, I think there's just... We we all... And this is just humanity probably, like hyper fixate on everything that went wrong or everything that's not going well instead of stopping to smell the roses and think, wow. We've we've really come a long way and he's doing a great job and I'm doing a great job.
So it's just such a such a difficult...
I don't I don't know. I still don't know how to think about it because what I wanna tell you is just swap the pump real quick before you get in the shower, and then bolus whatever you missed for the basal, and your blood sugar will still be 88. Mhmm. And or... Okay.
I understand you want to take a naked shower real quick, but as soon as you get out, you have to put a giant bolus in to cover all the other stuff. This is not a big deal. Just do it. And and I think I I think both things are right. But what I think is is that for her and her personality and where she is right now and all those other things, that answer isn't gonna jive with how she feels.
Yeah. So it doesn't matter if I'm right. And that's why, you know, listen. When your when your kids are younger and they're doing what you tell them to do, you know, and what you've laid out for them, try really hard to know what you're talking about because it is what you're gonna imprint on top of them. It's not necessarily what they're going to do, but my hope is, and I think it's so far been pretty accurate, is that when they do decide, I'm gonna handle this, they do...
They use the tools you gave them when they were younger. So it's it's how they know to do it. So knowing how to do it and doing it are two different things.
What the Nurse Practitioner Told Her51:45
It was... I remember one of the very first appointments, I guess maybe six months in, and we have an awesome nurse practitioner that we see at our endocrinologist office. I actually requested that we see him instead of the actual endocrinologist because he's a man, he has teenage boys. He's so good with my son, just like he's amazing. And he talks to my son at the appointments.
Like, I sit there and I try to chime in and he's like, actually, Bennett, I'd like to hear from you. And so it's really been good.
Bennett, your Uber driver is super chatty.
Exactly. That is exactly how I feel in those moments, but I will take it. And I remember we were sitting there, we were going through pump settings and, like, reviewing his graphs. And he said, well, Bennett, you know, what happened here? And Bennett was like, oh, I changed my basal rate because I felt like I needed to make that adjustment.
I think I needed more basal. And I told the doc... I like chimed in and I'm like, yeah, you know, one of the things that I really was hoping he would have done was ask me about that before just doing it on his own. And the guy stopped me and he's like, I'm going to tell you one of the most indicative things of future success is a person willing to make changes to their own settings. So you should actually be congratulating him and telling him how proud you are of him instead of like criticizing that he didn't come to you.
And it was one of those things where he put me in my place, and I... It was, like, a positive thing. I appreciated it. I was like, dang.
There's no way you told this story to your husband. Right?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, you did? Look at you. He was probably he was probably like, maybe I'll try that one day. He's not going to, but he got all excited for a second. He's like, I'm gonna do it too.
He does. He does. He tells me what's up.
Hey. But I... Does that doctor listen to the podcast?
I haven't ever asked him. I honestly should. He gives me the impression that he really understands this stuff, because our appointments are so personalized. He spends an hour or more with us every three or four months when we go in. He's talking to Bennett about all sorts of tips that...
And tricks that he can do to, you know, whether that's, hey, how are you utilizing activity mode? Maybe you should start activity mode sooner before band. Like things that I just don't really seem to hear in other people's stories. Mhmm. Again, I'm so grateful for the care that we are currently receiving.
He is amazing.
I'm trying to decide if you just remembered that story in my words or if he spoke them. But that's... I've said that a thousand times that I I think that one of the biggest indicators of future success is people who have the autonomy to make changes to their settings.
Well, so he had said that. And then I, at that point, I probably hadn't been listening to the podcast yet. I think I was just online. And then I started listening to the podcast and I'm like, oh my gosh, Scott says that all the time. Look at that.
He's... This guy's right. Like you can... You made me believe the doctor. I was like, okay.
If Scott says it, then I'll believe the doctor. But it... Yeah.
Well, I'm glad I'm glad somebody's out there saying. I'm sure there are more than one person, but, like, it is absolutely true. And for me, it's the, you know, it's the conversations I've had with people. And you you start to say, I mean, I don't know how the rest of you guys are listening, but I've been doing this for twelve years and 2,000 episodes. So I'm trying to aggregate everything I've heard together.
And when people are successful, there's a few things that they do, and that's one of them. And everyone who struggles is the one who's... You know, they're always like, well, you know, I'm seeing a problem here. I'm gonna mention this to my doctor next time I see him. I'm like...
Three months from now when you've already been suffering. And I think that's I find that to be very interesting because at the very beginning, I felt that way. I'm like, we can't just give you more Lantus. Like that... We can't do that.
But the further I got into it, I'm like, yeah, we can. We're gonna we're gonna do whatever we need to do to manage this. This is your life forever and not theirs. So I just... I find it interesting that that some people don't feel that level of confidence and it makes me sad.
Like, I wish everyone felt like they had the ability to
Speak up for themselves.
Take matters into their own hands or do what they need to do. And obviously within careful reason, like don't go crazy, be safe. But at the same time, like, I'm not gonna wait three months for somebody else to tell me what we should and shouldn't do. So I was really... I I think now I look back at that and I'm like, yeah, I actually should be so proud of my my child.
Yeah. Now he saw he saw a problem and he was like, oh, I think I need more insulin here. Mhmm. It's awesome. Yeah.
I mean, were you scared? Like, why do...
I think when I found out he did it without talking to me about it, it was not necessary. It was probably some fear. I think it was more so just, hey, bud. Like, we need open lines of communication because I'm making decisions on other things based off of what I think to be true. So if you're making changes to those things without telling me, I might have something wrong in my own mind about how I would be approaching situation.
So that's not wrong either. So so let me ask you a question. When you said it to him in front of the doctor and the doctor responded how he did, is that how you meant it? Like like, were you saying to him you did something wrong by changing this, or were you...
No. I meant it as communication. And I... The doctor did follow-up with my son after he told me off. He said, but listen, your mom loves you.
You're the most important person in her entire world. You've got to talk to her. You've got to communicate because like, yeah, this is... And so I...
So learning experience for both of you in that moment. Yes. Yeah.
And it's teenagers already, a teenage boy who doesn't communicate already. It's just like, let's layer on diabetes and see how this goes.
Well, it's just like there's four there's four men in my house. No one's saying anything.
It's so... It's so quiet.
I'm just sharing how I feel and everyone stares through me. I... Yeah.
Yeah. It's like you're here, Scott.
Is she sad? I don't care. Like... Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, I've been a boy a long time. I I know what's going
on. How could I say this in a different way to get someone to talk to me? Someone talk to me. I can't believe
that third kid wasn't a girl.
He's my sweetheart, though.
Oh, I'm sure he's lovely. Don't worry. I know one's saying otherwise. But but you probably do feel a little alone sometime because men do, you know, generally speaking, communicate in one way and not the way a lady does. But when my...
When Arden got bigger, like, it was, like, my wife's, like, saving grace. She finally was like, oh, there's another person on my team now.
That's cool to talk to.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she agrees with me.
Yeah.
Yeah. I said something the other day, and Arden's like, be nice to your mom. And I was like, wait. I'm not not being nice to mom. And she looked at me like...
And I was like, oh, okay. Like, I've been being nice to your mom for three decades. I like, was that lady is my girlfriend. I'm good. Don't worry.
And Arden was like, I don't like the way that came out. And I was like, oh god. Oh my goodness. That's hilarious. Being word police by two people now.
So that is so funny.
Alright. So pivot off of this for a second. So he's doing well at the moment. You said his a one c is great. He's picking things up as he goes.
Alright. Do you have confidence that, like, heading off to college will go in a positive direction?
Yeah. I mean, I think of... My husband and I joke all the time. If any of our kids were to be the one to have type one diabetes, he's the one because he is the one that's most... He's a rule follower.
He wants to do the right thing. He... You know what I mean? He's very worried about doing good in school, in band, in life. So I do think of all of the kids, not that I'd want any of them to have it, but if any of them would, he is maybe best suited as his personality.
There are moments where I'm like, oh, boy. If I wasn't here, things would be super sideways. But for the most part, I think that I feel pretty good about it.
I've been asking for Christmas gift lately. I say, I want you guys to get me two custom t shirts. One of them should say, you'd all be dead without me. And the other one should say, you'd all be broke without me. And, please just...
I want those two. I don't think anybody's gonna really do it, Melissa. But...
I should get those for me too. Yeah.
I agree. I I hear I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying. There's sometimes where you're just like, how did I get this job? Like, why does everyone else get to bounce around, like, all, like, footloose and fancy free?
And I'm like, here, I picked your medication up at the pharmacy or, like, you know, oh, thanks. Yeah. You could have gotten it. You know?
Yeah. It's also this dynamic, like my husband and I, I think it's an interesting... He's very... He cares a lot about the diabetes. He's super involved.
He's a great dad. But he does not... It does not run his life and mind like it does mine. And so we've also had to find that balance of working on it as a team and also when he's with him, me deferring to their decision making that, like, he's the one that's there. He's the one that's seeing things in real time.
I need to trust and know that it's gonna be okay. I think there's still so many moments where my husband's like, he'll wake me up in the middle of the night. He stays up super late and I go to bed super early. So he's like, babe, I need your advice. What am I supposed to do with Benet's blood sugar?
I'm like, can you please just figure it out? Can you figure it out right now without me? But I think he does lean on me a lot, which I prefer that. I want that.
I was gonna say, come on. Stop it. I've been married a long time. You're like... But also...
Wanna sleeping.
I'm literally sleeping. Why are you waking me up if you're already awake?
So are you... Listen. I want every single guy to hear what just happened here. Okay? Because get yourself ready.
She wants him to defer to her and check with her, but not if she has to wake up. Then he's a person who can't do anything by himself and doesn't know how to make a decision without me. Melissa, did I get that right?
No. No. Of course not. It's not what I'm saying.
Have you... I... It's what you're saying. It's what's happening.
Like, so have you ever heard
have you ever heard the, have you ever heard the saying, I can't win for losing? Yeah. Yeah. Like... Or
Yeah. It's an impossible situation. Yeah. Yeah. It truly is an impossible situation.
I don't know what to do. If I ask her, she's gonna think I'm inept. If I wake her up, she's... Oh, no. But if I do it wrong, she'll see in the morning on the CGM.
What
did the you do?
I have to leave. I have to leave my family. I've gotta go. I have three jobs. It'll be okay.
Oh, I'm dying.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I...
I've been married a long time. I I...
At least I can laugh at it too.
You know? Well, I mean, we're laughing at him.
And his and his... Myself. I understand how unreasonable it all sounds.
Woosah, Anxiety, and Everyone Wanting a Thing1:03:26
Are you anxious?
Yeah. I'd say so. For
fun or classically? What do you... Like,
this Not for fun. No. No. It's an an active, active effort and journey to try and woosa myself.
So... Wait. Woosah?
Yeah. Have you ever heard of that? Woosah?
No. I think you got... You're telling me something I
don't know. Look it up.
What do you mean look it up?
Know, AI. You say, yeah. Ask what woosa means.
Wait. Is it woosa? Woosah. Woosah.
Do you
wanna ask him?
No. I think it's like w o o s a h. Like, woosah.
Hold on a second. I was...
Restoring anger man... It's a slang term used as a reminder to take a deep breath and stay calm in stressful moments.
What does Woosah mean? What does it stand for?
I think you might mean Wausau, the city in Wisconsin.
I definitely don't mean that. No.
I I literally... I'm reading it. Wausau.
It's about taking a a slang term... Hold on. Let me tell my guy. A slang term used to what?
As a reminder to take a deep breath and stay calm during stressful moments.
It's a reminder to take a deep breath and be calm during stressful moments. Is this the thing you've heard of, or do you need to look on the Internet?...
Culture. The phrase was popularized by the 02/2003 comedy film Bad Boys two, where Martin Lawrence's character is told to say woosah and rub his earlobes during anger management.
It's not an acronym. It's just
a soothing sound, an anger management mantra.
Yeah. He got the same thing. I said he, but it's my phone. So I don't think it's really a person. Not yet.
In our lifetime, somebody's gonna wanna vote to give AI rights. And when that happens, I want everyone to know you're out of your minds. So I just wanna get ahead of that one. I'm gonna call you crazy if you ever say that out loud. Okay.
So you have anxiety? Like like, is it is it something you should be taking a pill for anxiety, or is it just... What... How do you think of it?
No. I... No. I don't take any medication. I don't have, like, a formalized diagnosis of anxiety.
I consider myself to be a high functioning anxious person because I think in so many ways it fuels success and it's, like, can be wielded as a strength, obviously. Then there's other things in my life where it's disruptive. Like with diabetes, it's been a harder thing for me. Do you ever get
the feeling we are all just looking too hard at ourselves sometimes?
Yes. 100%.
Yeah. Maybe psychology ran out of things to do, and now we're doing this. There are times when when I'm listening to, like, that that idea. Like, you're... Listen.
Here's what I hear. You're a motivated person. Right? Like... And you and you work hard, you want things to go well.
And when they don't go well, you have a feeling that you'd like them to go well, and you keep trying. And now we call that being anxious.
Anxiety. Yeah.
Right. Right. Maybe. Or or or, you know, like, I don't know. Like, I I have a weird speech pattern, which apparently some people find entertaining.
And then somebody comes on and goes, well, you have ADHD. And I think, mom, you don't know me. I have no trouble concentrating on anything. Like, I I I concentrate eighteen hours a day on things. I get a lot of stuff done.
I'm I'm not flighty. I don't find myself staring at walls. If I get tired, I stop working. Like, I don't have ADHD. Well, yes, you do.
Why? Well, you know, sometimes you start a sentence and you start thinking about it and you go on another. I'm like, I'm telling a story. Like, the... It's not a linear story, and sometimes you need another piece of it to get it.
And then, like, no. That's... Everything's not a diagnosis is what I'm telling you. Right? Like, if you're good at math, you're not autistic.
Stop it. Like, I don't know what you're all doing out there. Just relax. Why does everyone wanna have a thing, by the way? Have you noticed that?
I don't know. I think it's like there's a a mental health culture, and I don't think it's necessarily all bad, but I think, you know, I think about how I was parented and then, you know, fast forward and there's so much out there about like soft parenting and...
I didn't experience that. I don't...
Think somebody needs some discipline. Like, what?
I don't know what soft parenting is, but I didn't live through any of it personally....
Think some of it's that. It's like, we're very mindful of how everything we say and do is going to...
I... By the way, I also don't disagree with everything that you say and do impacts something. I know it does. Right. But, like, we're not built to track it all.
So, like, just... Hey. So Melissa's... Like, you know what I mean? She's a pain in the ass.
She's a little high. Yeah. Yeah. She's a little high.
High strung. You know? High strung, intense, tenacious, passionate.
In the '7... In the seventies, they would have called her a pain in the ass. In the nineties, they would have called her something else. Like, she's a lady who gets stuff done. Right?
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And I'll tell you what.
Yeah. You set those goals for those boys so they'd all sit around picking their ass. I guarantee you he wouldn't have three jobs. He's just trying to make you happy And good. Because what would be happening otherwise?
I'm only working because my wife said we needed a house. I mean, I a 100% would still live in the same apartment she and I rented together when we were, like, 22. If, like, it wasn't for her being, like, not good enough, keep going. And I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah.
I think ladies are the only reason we move forward. Right? Yeah. I seriously do. I agree.
Yeah. Otherwise, we'd all just be forming football leagues and betting channels and stuff like that. You have no idea how base everything would get if you left us in charge too long. So funny. Alright.
Listen. What happened to your health? Tell me a... Let's take a a left turn for half a second.
Her Own Labs, and the GLP That Changed Things1:09:15
Yeah. I think... So I was a college athlete. I played softball at Florida State. Mhmm.
Bragger. I I know.
I didn't know you were blonde. How come you didn't say you were blonde when we started?
I am blonde.
I know you are.
I don't know. I don't know why I have to say that. But...
Well, I mean, you didn't have to say that. I'm just saying I'm just saying
that I guess.
I have never turned a Florida State softball game on and thought, oh, where did they get that Italian girl from? It's never happened one time when I was watching.
There are a lot of blondes. So I I think because physical, like, activity exercise intensity was such a huge part of that season of my life and like all of high school leading up to that, everything was about fitness and health. And I think after college, I was like, cool. I don't ever have to work out like that again. And when you're young, you think your body's gonna stay young forever.
And so... And then you start having children and you're like, oh, well, never mind. That's not how this works. And so then I had... Fast forward, had my third son.
I got very, very sick after he was born and was hospitalized for a little bit of time.
Oh, how come...
And after that happened, like nothing bounced back. Because after my first two children were born, I bounced back right away and everything was looking great. Everything was good. And then after his birth and like that whole traumatic story, I did not bounce back. And so for many years, I've just oscillated on like, what if this is hormones aging?
What if this is diet and exercise related? And so I've, you know, I've lost weight and then I've gained it back and then I've lost weight and then I've gained it back. And I think I... It all kind of came to, probably two years ago, I got on semaglutide and it made me very sick. And so I just got off of it.
I was like, I can't do this. I did lose some weight on it, but I was so sick that it was brutal. And I'm like, I just don't feel like this is good. So I came off of it and I gained all the weight back that I had lost, and that was super frustrating to me. And then it all came to a head, like at the end of this year, I just felt like garbage.
I was tired all the time. I was not sleeping well. I was like, I have to get my butt in the gym. I have got to move my body, but I just couldn't physically. I was like, I literally am so tired.
I have a very taxing job, so that takes a lot of my mental energy. Anyway, I said, you know what? Forget it. I'm going to find a functional medicine person because every time I had done labs in the past, they're like, oh, normal. Oh, normal.
And when you started talking about TSH and if you have symptoms and it's above two, doesn't matter if it says it's normal, you need to go tell somebody that something's wrong. Like you, I can truly... I... I've told everybody I know about you in this podcast because I'm like, this person, the stranger gave me the confidence to go demand more for myself in a way that I had not done before. And so I went and got a ton of labs done.
This wonderful functional medicine lady that I found, she's a little cuckoo, but she's awesome. She ran every lab that I asked her to run and so glad I did that because my TSH was 4.8. My estrogen, progesterone, testosterone was all out of whack. My B 12 was super low. My vitamin D was super low.
I just like finally got answers to why I had been feeling the way that I'd been feeling. So she started me out immediately on a thyroid medication. She said, Hey, you need to take these supplements. And we reran labs. So I really took the approach of, I want to get the inside right before I start worrying about the outside because I feel like I had never done that before.
It had always been, like, I was doing it to look a certain way instead of doing it to feel a certain way in
a sense. You're fighting bad internal settings too. Right? Yeah. You're...
Exactly. The way I imagine the things in our body that we, at this point, know how to manipulate, I just think of them as, like, dials that are set wrong. And 100%. Right. You just need to turn them and get them back, and maybe that'll be with a pill or maybe it'll be with an injectable or maybe...
I don't know what it'll be with. It depends on your situation. Maybe it'll be a thing you can't... We don't know how to impact yet. But it doesn't mean that it's not impactable.
It just might mean that we don't know how to do it yet. Women, especially with these new, like, estrogen patches and the hormone replacement and stuff like that, you know, you don't have to you don't have to go from, like, you know, third baseman in... At Florida State or wherever you played. You have third baseman energy. That's why I said it.
I was a pitcher.
A pitcher. Okay.
A left handed pitcher.
Okay. You don't have to go from that to, I'd like to have a baby to, oh my god. Is this what they mean when they say boxy? To, why am I so old in my fifties? Like, do you know what I mean?
Like, it it... Poor women are on, like, a trajectory. It really is like nature means for them to be disposable. I hate... I really...
It makes me upset to say out loud because I love women and my wife and my daughter and everything. But, man, it feels like after you have a baby, it gets sideways. And then, like, we just write you off. We go, that's what happens. You you know what I mean?
And then that's... But turns out you put a little patch of estrogen on it. That's not what happens anymore. Turns out you put a little GLP in, that isn't what happens anymore. Yeah.
And so I'm I'm in for this. I love this ride. Yeah. So...
My insulin resistance was really bad. And so while my a one c was great, because I was like, am I, do I have diabetes? I started wearing a Stello for a few weeks to track my blood sugar because I was just like, I feel like things in my body are wrong. So anyway, she put me on thyroid. She put me on some supplements.
We redid labs. A lot of things had started to improve, not, not wildly improved, but the TSH had certainly improved. My vitamin D had improved, B12 had improved things like that. And so I said, you know, I think that now that I feel like I'm at some sort of a baseline where at least we're addressing the issues on the inside, I want to get on a GLP again. So I got on tirzepatide that was probably June, maybe June of this year.
So a few months now.
Like four months ago? How much have you lost in four months?
I've lost 24 pounds.
Why don't they just call it magic juice? Why do they gotta give it Yeah. Such a Yeah. Go ahead. Sorry.
I know. No. You're good. No. You're good.
It's, and I feel better. I feel so much better. And obviously I'm sure that some of that is the thyroid medication because that was super out of whack.
It's everything.
But I'm like, I think it's really impacting. I feel like it's impacting my insulin resistance the most because I feel different. I'm eating, I'm eating obviously very different because of the appetite suppression and how your food is digested. But just, I just feel so much better. So it's amazing.
My husband just started it two weeks ago.
Yeah.
I was like, you need to get on this. This is amazing.
It's funny. You lose, like, 20 pounds. Go, hey, Chunky. Come over here. I wanna talk to you.
Yeah. I think
that was a motivation for him. He's like, oh my god. I can tell you're losing weight.
And I'm like, I'm sorry. He's like, he's
like not. You better hurry up. Yeah. He's like,
she gonna leave me with these three boys. I'm a go out of my mind. I gotta I gotta I gotta pull it together quick.
100%.
That's... Well, that's... Listen. Congratulations. Fantastic.
Anybody listening who thinks it's cheating, I don't understand how your brain works, but good luck. And, I think they should spray it out of airplanes on top of all your heads. What do you think that? I I just... I don't...
I've I've get... Listen. I get it if you take it and you're like, it didn't make me feel good. I I mean, right on. Like, everything's not right for everybody.
But like you say, you tried one. And for people who don't understand, like, you tried Ozempic and then you went to Zepbound. Is that about right?
Okay. Yes.
Right. And, I... It's too expensive. It's almost free now. Like, we're almost at that point.
And by the way...
Oh, that's not the case. Dear god. How do you get it free? That's a trick I'd love to hear.
Is your insurance not covering it?
No. Insurance won't cover it.
My god. You people, you gotta get a you gotta get a square job. You know? You gotta work for a company.
I do work for a company.
No. They're not big enough. Work for a bigger company....
Not be.
I'm
like, dear lord. Insurance is so expensive. Maybe it's the plan I'm on.
I I I can't tell you. I'm... First of all, I hate saying this out loud because it feels such, like, a silly thing. I am a 100% grateful that my insurance covers it. And I do know people who don't, but I also...
What I'm saying is I'm seeing the cash price come down. Like, it is it is... There's plans where you can get it cheaper. There's a ton of people who are compounding it now. There's a thousand companies who are trying to turn it into, like, a generic injectable.
I think in the next year or so, you will be able to buy it at a bodega. So... And that's...
Yeah. That is my hope for the future because, obviously, it is currently not covered by insurance, so it's pretty expensive. But I think for me, I'm like, I...
Look. Can I?
The amount of, like, time, effort, and energy that I had spent, you know, what's the price of that when you can feel great?
When I when I first started talking, I had to talk somebody into doing it cash one time. They're like, I don't have this much money. They... At the time, it was like it was like $600 a month. And I was like, that is a lot of money.
I am not saying otherwise. I said, but let me go over a couple of things with you. A, I wonder how much money you'll save on your food bill, which has ended up
I do have three teens, so that hasn't helped me.
Yeah. That hasn't helped you. You have to stab that.
But it would help someone else.
Yeah. Yeah.
It would definitely help someone else.
You stab those kids with that you stab those kids with that pen, you won't have the same problem. They'll be like, I'm not hungry. Yeah. Right. But but like I said, I think your food bill will go down a little bit.
It'll... At least it'll mitigate it a little bit. And we went over a couple of other ideas. I said, plus, it will go down. Like, the price is going to come down.
Maybe you will eventually have insurance that covers it. And and I think this is the most important part. Do you know who doesn't need $3,000 a year? A dead person. And so you're on your way to a really bad health outcome.
So if you've gotta find a way to make another $3,000 this year, don't care if you have to get another job. Hey. Melissa's husband's got three of them. Like, you know, like, I don't care if you have to get another job. Like, find a way to do this.
Find a way to mitigate the cost in different ways. Give up something else. Find a way to make this happen for yourself. And I say this all the time because she was very clear. She she called me back later, and she's like, thank you for bullying me into going on this.
And I was like, because I a 100% did. It's just a private conversation. But all the things I said happened. Her food bill came down. Right?
Her family has lost hundreds of pounds collectively. And on top of that, she just got a new job. By the way, with her new look, her new self confidence, her new, like, life, like, like, outlook, she went out, got a new job, and guess what that job has? Insurance that covers her GLP medication.
It's awesome.
Yeah. So for for $500 a month, she... For... It was only for a year. She changed her entire life, and now she's okay.
And now she doesn't have to spend the $500 a month anymore. So now aggregate that $3 out over the next forty years of her life. She paid a penny a day to to stay alive. You know what I mean?
It's incredible.
You know, think think different. That's that Steve Jobs guy. He said that. Right? Yeah.
He, by the way, then got pancreatic cancer, thought differently, and instead of doing what his doctor said, tried some hocus pocus and was dead very quickly. Not the... By the way, not that pancreatic cancer is a thing you can easily overcome. Not funny. Yeah.
Yeah. But but, anyway, I think I think you just gotta try something. Yeah. Like, it's better than sitting around going, this isn't working. Like, if your body is the way Melissa described, something isn't right.
Yeah.
It's not just bad luck or your genetics.
It's just... This isn't normal. I'm 38 years old. I should not be... Like, I just started looking at myself and thinking, there is no way on earth that this is supposed to be how a 38 year old woman feels.
There's just no way that this is right. This is not normal. And we just settle. I think we're busy. We're distracted.
We're... Whatever you have different priorities, but like we just settle to accept things in our lives that we don't have to accept. And I think you... I really do. I know that...
I don't know. It's like I'm giving you all these compliments, but I really do think it was because of how you have talked about it that gave me the confidence to say, man, he's right. This is not right. And why am I allowing myself to just kind of keep going through the motions of my own life? And so I'm really grateful for, I'm grateful for this podcast obviously related to type one diabetes and my son because it's given me so much knowledge and just like a support system that, you know, doesn't exist in my physical world.
You know what I mean? Like in my day to day life and just hearing other people's stories and listening to other moms talk about what they're going through, it's just been so refreshing. But then at the same time, it's been something where I've been able to take for myself as well and impact my own health, and I'm just really grateful for that.
Well, that is incredibly kind of you, and I appreciate your heartfelt statement. I think there's only really one way to answer that, and it is with the last two sentences that were spoken between my wife and I after we hung up on that phone call in the drive back from Tennessee where I said, look at me saving people. And she said, shut up, idiot.
I think you take the win, Scott. I agree with you.
No. Seriously, it just needs... I mean, listen. I don't wanna pontificate about my my conversation or sharing style, but I just... I...
I've said it a thousand different ways to a thousand different people. Like, sometimes I say, like, you just need a tiny bit of my narcissism, or I don't know why I'm built like this, but I wouldn't put up with that crap. Like, it's the... We all grow up differently, and we get told to be polite or don't question that person or or shut up, put your head down, and keep working or whatever. You know, whatever's stuck in your head that allows you to get to a point where you say, something's wrong, but I'm just gonna take it.
And I don't just mean about your health. I mean about everything. I don't take crap from anybody about anything. Like, I really couldn't possibly care. Like, I'm the perfect person to do something like this because when people complain about me online, it doesn't even register for me.
I'm like, whatever. Bye. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. Random guy in Montana doesn't like me?
Oh, no. I'm okay. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah.
It it doesn't it doesn't hit me. But when I'm in a personal situation or in a public situation... Like, I've never told a story on here that's not true. Like, whether it's just, like, you know, going back to a grocery store. Have you heard the one about the the lunch meat yet, or is that not gone out yet?
No. I don't think I've heard that yet. Oh, I And I'm pretty caught up. The only ones I haven't listened to of, like, recent are the ones with Addie Taylor, which I'm so excited to listen to those.
Oh, she was lovely.
That just came out, I think, yesterday.
It was yesterday and today. It's a two parter.
Today. Yeah. Two parter. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
So I'm excited about that. I'm gonna follow her online.
Yeah. She's really awesome. She's really honest about, what it's like to make, like, content too for stuff. It's real... It was super interesting, and she's got an interesting story.
It's, yeah. You'll get a lot out of it. But I just don't... I I don't understand. I don't understand letting yourself being treated poorly.
I don't understand accepting things that are less than than what is, like, obvious or deserved. I don't get it around health care. Like, you guys probably think, like, I have some theory about living with type one diabetes. I just have a theory about living. You you know, like, when when Arden's little and we're having an eight and a half a one c, nine a one c, the doctor's going, you're doing great.
I'm like, that's wrong. And that's it. I don't think about it again. That's wrong. I'm done with that now.
Now if that person can't help me, how do I figure out how to do it? I love how you figured out your son's issues. Like, you called it, like, going down a rabbit trail. By the way, it's rabbit hole, but whatever. I didn't stop you at the time.
And, like...
I do that all the time. I miss... Say all the little sayings. People make fun of me. They're like, oh, there goes another
I've never mentioned my sister-in-law like this before. My sister-in-law uses the wrong word about three times in every conversation you have with her, and I've I've learned to find it to be delightful now. I like... She... She's like, she'll say something.
I'll think, I wonder what she meant there. And so... But but I like what you did. I would have done the same thing. My...
I got my son's diagnosis for his Hashimoto's. I I made... I did that. I was like, that's not right. I first picked up on his, like, just this temperament.
I'm like, something's not right. This is not how his personality usually goes. And then I I took him to the doctor. I said, I think he has a problem with his thyroid, and then I let the doctor tell me he was okay even though I'd watched my wife live through it. And then we came home.
I was completely frustrated. And instead of trying to tell that doctor again and again and again, no. You're wrong. Do something. I just went and got him a different doctor.
Mhmm. And I got him one of those functional medicine ladies who's a little left to center, but really awesome and really smart and willing to see the world a slightly different way, but isn't gonna rub essential oils on my forehead. Like, there's a gap in there. You just gotta find
100%.
You just gotta find the gap right in there. That's... You wanna live Absolutely. You wanna live between essential oils and know you're fine. Like, you just gotta find that, and it's always a lady.
I just wanna tell you. Like, so go find her. She's wonderful. It's somebody... Some motherly woman who understands the world a little better than the rest of us, who's not afraid to say, this isn't how we usually do it.
We... Whoever we is, but try this. And and I immediately got him okay. Now he could've lived like that forever. It could've turned into people going, oh, wow.
Cole's kind of a prick. Because he's not. He just... His thyroid was all messed up. And, you know, like, I did that.
Like, I I... And I'm happy about it. I I wouldn't apologize for going down a rabbit hole. I can't. I physically remember sitting at this desk at 03:00 in the morning before ChatGPT, like, googling and searching, all kinds of crazy stuff.
Like, I'm telling you, like, I was in NIH articles, and I finally found a a study that said that my son's one symptom that we could track physically has sometimes been tracked back to, Hashimoto's. And I copied that, sent it to the doctor, and I was like, see that? Give him the medicine. And boom. Like that.
And he was fine fine in days. Yeah. I I was out of my mind trying to figure that out. I have to tell you, for the rest of you, I don't understand not having that energy when you're being attacked. Like like, do you know what I mean?
Like, if you were coming after my family, I drop everything, and I figure out what's going on. And we You
get the bat out of the room. Oh my god. That was the best story. Yeah.
People peep... We're gonna... Is this what we gotta do then? This is what we gotta do. I I swear to you, like, I've...
When people go crazy in the street, I don't judge them too much. I think they grew up a specific way. And I've... Because I've had moments in my life where I've heard something and I thought, oh, I didn't think this is how I was gonna die. But if this is how it has to go, then I guess this is how it has to go.
And and there's other times where I would run from danger, like if my kids were with me. But if I was alone, I'd be like, oh, I'm definitely the guy that would, like, run you over if you pulled a gun out of the diner. I'd be like, oh, cool. I didn't know this was gonna happen today, but we can't just let this go on. And and by the way, I'd get there and you'd find out I was an old man.
I could barely knock the guy over. He'd probably shoot me immediately. And, but I would just think, like, there's a problem in front of us. Now no other problems exist until we fix this one.
Yeah. And Take it. Take control of it. Take action. Like, take some step forward.
Don't be so afraid. Just... And don't listen to people all the time. Don't listen to me. Listen to yourself.
Like... And if you're not smart enough, find a person that... And by the way, some of you are dumb as a wall. It's okay. Don't be embarrassed.
Go find somebody else that knows what's going on and let them help you. But don't sit back and go, I wish I could figure this out, but I can't, so I guess I'm just gonna die. That's crazy. Yeah. Alright.
Alright, Melissa. You made me all upset. I'm all warmed up. I'm good to go for the day. Guess I'll have an egg now.
You know what I mean? I'm boring. I'm gonna poach a couple eggs, throw it over a piece of rye toast to get going with my day. That's delicious. You were awesome.
I'm gonna ask you a couple of real estate questions and then let you go about your life. Nobody nobody cares about them, so I'm gonna stop the recording right now. But thank you very much for doing this. I really did enjoy the conversation.
Thank you so much.
Can I just say how? Like, before I hit stop, I never thought blind girls would like me, but this is really a nice...
This has been a nice moment. Whatever. Oh god.
This has been a nice moment for me.
I have been looking forward to this so much. My family my family's texting me, how did it go?
Oh, Melissa, I swear to god. I just assumed everyone had dark hair that was listening. Like, this is a really big moment for me. Thank you so much. Hold on one second.
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