#1745 Icky Sticky
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Diagnosed at three, Shane discusses growing up with T1D, navigating the college party scene, and his transition to adulthood. He covers alcohol, mental health, dating, and improving his A1C.
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Scott Benner (0:00) Welcome back, friends, to another episode of the Juice Box podcast.
Shane (0:14) Hello. (0:15) I'm Shane. (0:16) I'm 26 years old, and I've been living with type one diabetes for over twenty three years now.
Scott Benner (0:25) If you're new to type one diabetes, begin with the bold beginnings series from the podcast. (0:30) Don't take my word for it. (0:31) Listen to what reviewers have said. (0:33) Bold beginnings is the best first step. (0:36) I learned more in those episodes than anywhere else.
Scott Benner (0:39) This is when everything finally clicked. (0:41) People say it takes the stress out of the early days and replaces it with clarity. (0:45) They tell me this should come with the diagnosis packet that I got at the hospital. (0:49) And after they listen, they recommend it to everyone who's struggling. (0:53) It's straightforward, practical, and easy to listen to.
Scott Benner (0:56) Bold Beginnings gives you the basics in a way that actually makes sense. (1:02) If you've ever heard a diabetes term and thought, okay, but what does that actually mean? (1:06) You need the defining diabetes series from the Juice Box podcast. (1:10) Defining diabetes takes all those phrases and terms that you don't understand and makes them clear. (1:15) Quick and easy episodes.
Scott Benner (1:17) Find out what bolus means, basal, insulin sensitivity, and all of the rest. (1:22) There has to be over 60 episodes of Defining Diabetes. (1:25) Check it out now in your audio player or go to juiceboxpodcast.com and go up into the menu. (1:32) Today's episode is brought to you by Omnipod. (1:35) We talk a lot about ways to lower your a one c on this podcast.
Scott Benner (1:39) Did you know that the Omnipod five was shown to lower a one c? (1:42) That's right. (1:43) Omnipod five is a tube free automated insulin delivery system, and it was shown to significantly improve a one c and time and range for people with type one diabetes when they switched from daily injections. (1:55) My daughter is about to turn 21 years old, and she has been wearing an Omnipod every day since she was four. (2:01) It has been a friend to our family, and I think it could be a friend to yours.
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Shane (2:38) Hello. (2:38) I'm Shane. (2:39) I'm 26 years old, and I've been living with type one diabetes for over twenty three years now.
Scott Benner (2:46) Shane diagnosed when you were three, two and a half, something like that?
Shane (2:50) Yep. (2:50) Three years old.
Scott Benner (2:51) Wow. (2:52) It
Shane (2:52) was June 2002.
Scott Benner (2:55) How was the weather that June? (2:56) Do you remember?
Shane (2:57) I don't remember. (2:58) You don't remember?
Scott Benner (2:59) But do you I think it
Shane (3:00) was nice, though.
Scott Benner (3:01) What do you remember about that? (3:03) Nothing. (3:03) Right?
Shane (3:04) I have, like, one very vague memory of being in the hospital and, like, seeing a doctor from, like, a three year old's perspective.
Scott Benner (3:15) Mhmm.
Shane (3:16) I was saying, like, a little, like, car toy thing. (3:20) But besides that, I don't I don't even know. (3:22) Sure. (3:23) That was, like, from that time.
Scott Benner (3:26) Are there are there photos of your diagnosis time?
Shane (3:33) There probably is. (3:35) You know, my mother, like, she she keeps photos of everything. (3:40) So I'm I know it was a really hard time for her then.
Scott Benner (3:44) Yeah. (3:44) I was just wondering because I I'm starting to learn as I get older that, like, some of my older memories, they're not really memories. (3:50) They're they're photos that I remember. (3:53) Does that make sense? (3:54) Oh.
Scott Benner (3:54) Like like yeah. (3:55) Like, I wouldn't be surprised if some there there's a picture of a car and you in a hospital, like, and you've seen it. (4:01) Like, that's what I that's what I was wondering about. (4:03) I mean, I could also be a 100% wrong. (4:05) What do you mean it was hard for your mom?
Scott Benner (4:06) How do you know that? (4:07) Is that are those stories that have been shared over the years?
Shane (4:11) Yeah. (4:11) Just, like, throughout time, just from, like, hearing, like, from, like, other family members just like, oh, like, you know, we had no idea what was going on back then. (4:23) You know? (4:24) Like, it was in 2002, so that was a different, you know, time frame. (4:29) And and no one in my family at the time had type one diabetes.
Shane (4:35) So
Scott Benner (4:37) Do they now?
Shane (4:39) I'm the only one that has type one diabetes in my, like, you know, my mom or dad's side of the family.
Scott Benner (4:46) Mhmm.
Shane (4:47) So I guess there is some type two Yeah. (4:52) That goes.
Scott Benner (4:53) I think we all we all know somebody with type two diabetes, I think. (4:56) Right. (4:57) Yeah. (4:58) So Yeah. (4:59) Stories from your other family members.
Scott Benner (5:00) Like, stories like, hey. (5:01) Your mom was struggling back then, or they weren't telling you that when you were a kid. (5:05) Right?
Shane (5:05) No. (5:06) No. (5:06) This was just, like, as I got older, it was just like, oh, yeah. (5:09) Like, you know, like, they just didn't know what was going on. (5:15) This is something that was completely new, and then it's like your your child's sick.
Scott Benner (5:20) Lot of confusion.
Shane (5:21) For for five days.
Scott Benner (5:22) Yeah. (5:23) Like, lot of a lot of confusion, you think, throughout the fam like, through the extended family too.
Shane (5:29) Yeah. (5:29) Yeah. (5:29) Definitely. (5:30) I mean, there was definitely support there, which was great from, you know, what I picked up on over time.
Scott Benner (5:38) Mhmm.
Shane (5:38) So
Scott Benner (5:39) Your your parents married still?
Shane (5:42) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (5:42) Okay. (5:43) Do you remember growing up with somebody more in charge of you than the other, or was it a pretty equal distribution of responsibility?
Shane (5:50) It was very e so, you know, growing up, I was not very confident in, like, checking my blood sugar until I was about, like, nine.
Scott Benner (6:03) Mhmm.
Shane (6:03) I didn't like pricking my finger. (6:07) Definitely did not, like, do my own psyches. (6:10) I didn't like the you know, it can be painful, you you know, sometimes, like, pointing your stomach, your leg, your butt, your arm, whatever. (6:21) Shane, confident. (6:22) Dad would help me do the Yeah.
Shane (6:24) I'm sorry. (6:25) Help change my sights.
Scott Benner (6:26) Yeah. (6:26) Yeah. (6:26) You weren't confident or you weren't or you weren't or or it hurt and you didn't wanna do it?
Shane (6:33) I think it was because of I it it hurt.
Scott Benner (6:35) Okay.
Shane (6:36) So I didn't wanna do it.
Scott Benner (6:37) Yeah. (6:37) So having your dad help you was valuable?
Shane (6:40) Very valuable.
Scott Benner (6:41) Yeah.
Shane (6:41) Yeah. (6:42) And then my mom would take me to the doctor. (6:44) She would do all, like, the, like, the insurance paperwork. (6:50) You know? (6:51) Right.
Shane (6:51) I I two I got two other siblings in my family too. (6:58) So Mhmm. (6:59) She also did that for them, but they didn't they're very healthy. (7:03) They don't have any Assholes. (7:06) Underlying condition.
Scott Benner (7:07) Yeah. (7:07) Yeah. (7:08) Yeah. (7:08) Press. (7:09) Running around all healthy.
Scott Benner (7:11) Yep. (7:12) Are they older older or younger?
Shane (7:14) They're both older.
Scott Benner (7:15) Both older. (7:16) Oh, you're the youngest?
Shane (7:17) Yes.
Scott Benner (7:18) Okay. (7:19) Do you have any other autoimmune stuff? (7:22) Nope. (7:23) No. (7:23) That's
Shane (7:24) type one diabetic.
Scott Benner (7:25) How about your mom? (7:26) Your mom got thyroid?
Shane (7:29) No.
Scott Benner (7:29) No. (7:30) Okay. (7:31) No. (7:31) You don't see any celiac in the family, extended family, celiac, thyroid, vitiligo, any other RA maybe, any other autoimmune issues?
Shane (7:41) Not that I'm aware of
Scott Benner (7:44) Okay.
Shane (7:44) Honestly.
Scott Benner (7:45) No. (7:45) That that's that's fine. (7:47) And you're 26 now. (7:48) How long you've been out of college?
Shane (7:50) Yeah. (7:51) So I graduated five years ago. (7:54) Well, 2021. (7:56) So 2021.
Scott Benner (7:59) Yeah. (8:00) Yeah. (8:00) Yeah. (8:00) So You and my son are the same just about the same age. (8:03) You're a little older than he is.
Scott Benner (8:05) Okay. (8:06) Yeah. (8:06) Yeah.
Shane (8:06) Yeah. (8:07) I I really loved college. (8:10) It was definitely a time period where, like, you know yeah. (8:18) Like, I oh, like, you
Scott Benner (8:20) Wait. (8:20) Shane, you started you started laughing, but only you knew what you were laughing at. (8:24) What what was let me ask you a couple questions, and I'll get you to college. (8:28) Okay? (8:28) So you you you're not too comfortable taking care of yourself till you're, like, nine or so with your sites and everything.
Scott Benner (8:34) That I imagine gets a little easier as you get older. (8:37) You're making decisions about insulin on your own at one age.
Shane (8:42) Yeah. (8:42) So that was instilled into me to start counting carbs at a very early age and, like, not lying about, like, what you're eating
Scott Benner (8:50) Okay.
Shane (8:51) And, like, sneaking food. (8:53) That was instilled into me, I would say, from both my parents, like, hey. (8:59) Like, you have something. (9:01) You can do it, but let us know. (9:04) And how and then you need to know how to count this.
Scott Benner (9:08) Right. (9:08) So they So very honest and direct. (9:11) Empowered. (9:12) Yeah. (9:13) Yeah.
Scott Benner (9:13) Yeah. (9:13) And did you ever have trouble with lying about, like, what you were eating?
Shane (9:17) No. (9:18) But I knew other people throughout time growing up that, you know, my parents would work with or through, like, sports
Scott Benner (9:28) Mhmm.
Shane (9:29) It would be like, oh, like, you know, I have the same endocrinologist as some of these people. (9:34) And we would just I would just hear that, oh, like, your eight wins these 10. (9:42) Or and then, like, mine's, like, eight. (9:45) It wasn't that much better. (9:48) But
Scott Benner (9:49) Sure thing.
Shane (9:49) I'm not
Scott Benner (9:50) I'm not bragging because I had an eight, but they had a 10. (9:52) So, they were definitely doing something. (9:55) But, like, the so did you grow up with any, weird feelings about food, or your parents were able to keep that from happening by the way they talked to you about it?
Shane (10:06) No. (10:07) I I never had any, like, weird feelings about food. (10:12) I mean, more more in the sense of, like, I knew the sensations of, like, having low and high blood sugar without testing. (10:18) Mhmm. (10:19) So I was very much, like, in tune with my body because, like, CGM synagogues exist back then.
Scott Benner (10:28) Okay.
Shane (10:28) And it's like, you know, I was just going based off gut feeling. (10:35) And, you know, if I if I didn't feel right, I would say something.
Scott Benner (10:39) Dude, this vibe with it. (10:40) But I'm saying, like, you didn't have, like, any eating disorder stuff. (10:43) You didn't, like, avoid food, so you didn't have the bolus or or eat and lie about it and hide food or anything. (10:49) Nothing like that was happening for you.
Shane (10:51) No. (10:52) No. (10:52) I mean, there's definitely been days where I'm like, like, ugh. (10:57) Like, there's nothing I can do. (10:59) Right?
Scott Benner (10:59) Yeah. (10:59) Yeah. (11:00) Yeah. (11:00) Yeah. (11:00) Maybe maybe today, I just, this isn't gonna go well.
Scott Benner (11:03) I hear you. (11:04) When did you get a CGM? (11:05) At what age?
Shane (11:08) Yeah. (11:08) So I got it, right around COVID, honestly.
Scott Benner (11:14) Okay.
Shane (11:14) It was like
Scott Benner (11:14) About five years ago? (11:16) Yeah. (11:17) Which one do you use?
Shane (11:19) The Dexcom g seven current currently, but I use the the g six to set off.
Scott Benner (11:25) Okay. (11:25) Are you excited about the the g seven going to fifteen days?
Shane (11:30) Yeah. (11:30) I actually wait. (11:31) Fifteen days?
Scott Benner (11:32) Yeah. (11:32) I think so. (11:33) Right? (11:33) Now what's gonna happen?
Shane (11:35) I didn't see that. (11:36) I I know it's ten days right now.
Scott Benner (11:38) Oh, no. (11:38) No. (11:38) No.
Shane (11:38) I like the grace period.
Scott Benner (11:39) Dexcom. (11:40) Fifteen days. (11:44) Dexcom yeah. (11:45) It's gonna be fifteen days. (11:46) It's coming really soon.
Scott Benner (11:48) I I think, like, now it it's gonna start rolling out. (11:53) Yeah. (11:53) It oh. (11:54) Sweet. (11:54) Yeah.
Scott Benner (11:54) Dexcom g seven fifteen day has earned FDA clearance coming December 1. (11:59) Today is December 1.
Shane (12:02) Oh, okay. (12:03) I guess I gotta use the rest of my supplies.
Scott Benner (12:04) Yeah. (12:05) Get going, man. (12:05) It's for 18 and up. (12:07) It's not for peds for some reason. (12:09) But yeah.
Scott Benner (12:11) I mean, that's it. (12:11) Hopefully, you'll get five more days out of it.
Shane (12:15) Nice.
Scott Benner (12:15) Yeah. (12:16) Awesome. (12:16) Yeah.
Shane (12:17) Does get a little gross sometimes with the tape around it.
Scott Benner (12:20) You think the sticky might get a little icky? (12:23) Yeah. (12:24) So Hey. (12:25) If I say icky sticky, are you gonna tell me that you smoked weed in college and that we can bring this all full circle?
Shane (12:31) Yeah. (12:31) Yeah. (12:31) I definitely did.
Scott Benner (12:33) Awesome. (12:33) Thanks, Shane. (12:34) I appreciate it. (12:35) Sometimes people fight the titles, and that makes me upset. (12:38) I was talking to somebody the other day, and I was like, what was what was it about?
Scott Benner (12:43) Her name was Cecilia. (12:44) And I was like, if you could have just said something crappy, I could have called this Cecilia. (12:48) You're breaking my heart after the song. (12:50) And and she just was such a lovely person. (12:53) I couldn't do it, but you are gonna help me out here.
Scott Benner (12:56) We might call this one icky sticky. (12:57) Depends on how much weed you smoked. (13:00) Dexcom Dexcom's like awesome. (13:01) Pivot right from me to weed. (13:05) Great.
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Scott Benner (13:13) So she so Shane, so you're taking care of yourself. (13:15) You're counting your carbs. (13:17) You're better with your devices as you get older. (13:19) Five years ago, in college, you get a CGM. (13:22) So you left you're telling me you went through high school without a CGM, and you started college without one.
Shane (13:27) I did not like the idea of having another sight on me.
Scott Benner (13:31) Oh, this I wanna hear I wanna hear against Yeah. (13:35) Yeah. (13:35) Give me a half a second, Shane. (13:36) Like, there's a open window that shouldn't be. (13:38) I'm gonna walk away for half a second.
Shane (13:40) Okay.
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Scott Benner (15:56) Silly me trying to live with fresh air. (15:58) Let's start here. (15:58) You had a pump at what age? (16:00) Four. (16:01) Four.
Scott Benner (16:01) Oh, you've had a pump for a long ass time. (16:03) What what pump did you start with?
Shane (16:05) Medtronic. (16:07) The Silhouette was the the site Mhmm. (16:10) I used. (16:12) Well, it was like a manual. (16:13) It wasn't even, like, how, like, they are now where, like, you just click it and it shoots into your skin.
Scott Benner (16:19) Yeah. (16:19) You don't push it in. (16:20) Right?
Shane (16:21) Right. (16:21) Yeah. (16:21) You used to manually do it. (16:23) So, like, I think that kinda stems to, like, why I wasn't comfortable doing it because, like, I was, like, watching, like, needle going to my stomach slowly, and then, you know, it's
Scott Benner (16:36) a bar. (16:37) Like
Shane (16:38) Awesome. (16:39) To do this by myself?
Scott Benner (16:40) Also, I've been to a phlebotomist. (16:42) They're not great at it sometimes. (16:43) I don't know what I'm doing. (16:44) I'm nine. (16:45) Like Yeah.
Shane (16:46) I'm not I'm four.
Scott Benner (16:47) Yeah. (16:48) Four. (16:48) Well, yeah. (16:49) Of course. (16:49) Oh, that makes more sense.
Scott Benner (16:50) So you were using are you using a Medtronic pump with an with a manual inserted cannula?
Shane (16:57) Yeah. (16:57) Like silhouette.
Scott Benner (16:58) Called the silhouette. (16:59) You you do that. (17:00) When do you do you stay with Medtronic pumps throughout your childhood?
Shane (17:04) Yeah. (17:05) All the way up until college.
Scott Benner (17:07) Okay. (17:07) And so Nine
Shane (17:08) one two tandem.
Scott Benner (17:10) And in high school, you're you're are you rocking that eight a one c pretty much through high school or did it
Shane (17:17) I was pretty good, actually. (17:19) Like, I asked my because my mom, she would write them down every time. (17:24) So I would fluctuate. (17:26) Like, CGM overall, I was I should've used them earlier because my a one c has been consistently below seven. (17:36) It's in the sixes now
Scott Benner (17:37) Good for you.
Shane (17:38) Since I've been using them.
Scott Benner (17:40) That's awesome.
Shane (17:41) Yeah. (17:41) So it's definitely opened my eyes to, like, wow. (17:46) Like like, the these actually do help.
Scott Benner (17:51) Oh my god. (17:52) It's a friend of a friend. (17:54) I don't wanna say anybody's name. (17:55) A friend of
Shane (17:55) a
Scott Benner (17:56) friend, just got a CGM. (17:59) And I've been I said to them, I was talking on the phone with them, and and and and I said, you know, when I met you and I realized you didn't have a CGM, I said, I've been worried about you since then. (18:11) And, and I'm just so thrilled that you got one. (18:14) And already, they're seeing, like, yeah. (18:16) Like, there's a lot here I didn't realize.
Scott Benner (18:18) So, like, what did you notice first? (18:19) Putting on a CGM, like, first time when you started looking at those graphs, what was your what were your takeaways in the beginning?
Shane (18:28) Just how drastic over a twenty four hour period. (18:33) Like, when you eat, it doesn't look that bad whether than the first hour or through well, then you look at it for twenty four hours. (18:43) Like, if, you know, if you're not pre bowl of zinc twenty minutes before, and this is where the carb counting is so important, but to get deeper into the things, you know, like, if you're constantly on the go and you're out and about and you don't know where you're at, you go to, like, some restaurant and then you get, like, a quesadilla, but, like, who knows what they put on the chicken. (19:03) It's like Mhmm. (19:04) You know what I mean?
Shane (19:05) Like, there's so many unknown factors, and, like, it's like, go. (19:09) Go. (19:09) Go. (19:10) So I sometimes forget the, like, pre bolus. (19:15) So then, like, that's where I see those, like, sharp increases, and it's just a good reminder to, like, slow down.
Shane (19:22) Yeah. (19:22) Think about what you're eating.
Scott Benner (19:23) You almost said what I what I think is maybe one of the more valuable parts about a CGM is, like, if you're just looking at something, like, close-up right up on your nose, like, you're just like, oh, I'm a 180 or I'm a 160. (19:34) But if you step back twenty four hours, I can see the whole thing in one picture, you go, oh, I don't do I'm not good at this. (19:42) And and right? (19:44) And then it starts making you think about what? (19:45) Like, how do I how do I get rid of these spikes?
Scott Benner (19:48) How do I get rid of the lows? (19:49) If you start putting, what, a little more focused attention on it, like, how does it help you?
Shane (19:55) Yeah. (19:55) Definitely. (19:58) You know, like, there's just, like, certain little things too that I've noticed that, like, when I first wake up in the morning, I don't even eat anything sometimes, and my blood sugar will still rise up. (20:10) Yeah. (20:10) And then that's just a natural I don't know.
Shane (20:13) I forgot what the term's called, but that happens where your body releases a little bit
Scott Benner (20:19) on the floor?
Shane (20:21) Yeah.
Scott Benner (20:21) Yeah. (20:22) Like, you're you get up and are you an anxious person?
Shane (20:28) Yeah. (20:28) I guess so. (20:29) Like, I mean, I I think I think everyone is.
Scott Benner (20:31) You think everyone is?
Shane (20:34) Yeah. (20:34) I mean, maybe you're not. (20:35) I don't know what's I I don't know.
Scott Benner (20:37) I've been trying to figure that out myself. (20:39) I
Shane (20:39) am, I guess.
Scott Benner (20:39) Yeah. (20:40) Yeah. (20:40) Yeah. (20:40) But you say you have some level of anxiety. (20:42) So when you start what what happens?
Scott Benner (20:43) You wake up, the day presents itself, you start your adrenaline goes up a little bit, you
Shane (20:49) Yeah. (20:49) I mean, definitely on my way to work. (20:52) Like, I but it's a commute.
Scott Benner (20:54) So Yeah. (20:56) Well, you drive in or you take a train or how do you get to work?
Shane (20:59) I drive in.
Scott Benner (20:59) You drive. (21:00) And no one by the way, when you're going to college, it all sounded fun, didn't it? (21:03) Like, I'll get a job. (21:04) I'll get money. (21:04) This is gonna be awesome.
Scott Benner (21:05) And now you're like, oh, every day? (21:07) You know?
Shane (21:07) Yeah. (21:08) It's like, I can't walk to work?
Scott Benner (21:11) Every day I gotta go?
Shane (21:13) Yeah. (21:14) Rethink how we plan out city design.
Scott Benner (21:19) Don't know. (21:19) It's like, I thought this makes sense exactly. (21:22) I mean, the money is not as what I was thought it was gonna be, and, every day, I gotta get up. (21:27) I gotta you know what I you know what I as a person who doesn't leave the house to go to work, I am I I don't realize, like, little things. (21:34) I mean, I realize them because I used to have, like, a, like, a real job.
Scott Benner (21:38) But even little stuff about having to plan, like, when to use the bathroom during the day. (21:43) That's not a thing that happens to me. (21:45) Do you know what I mean? (21:45) Like, I go to the bathroom when I wanna go to the bathroom. (21:47) Like but Yeah.
Scott Benner (21:48) If you get up at seven and you gotta be out the door at 07:30, and it's 07:45, you're like, ah, I gotta go. (21:54) But it's too late now. (21:55) You're in the car. (21:56) It don't matter.
Shane (21:57) Yeah. (21:57) Yeah. (21:57) Yeah. (21:58) You gotta wait till you get to Yeah. (21:59) Where you're going.
Shane (22:00) And then
Scott Benner (22:00) you go to work and you're that guy that shits at work. (22:02) You know what I mean? (22:03) It ain't great. (22:04) It ain't great shit.
Shane (22:06) Then then you're waiting in line. (22:07) Yeah. (22:08) There's only one.
Scott Benner (22:09) You and the coffee boys are in the bathroom together. (22:11) You know what I mean? (22:12) Like, it's not fun. (22:14) It's
Shane (22:15) Every day. (22:15) 10AM.
Scott Benner (22:16) Hey. (22:16) What's up, guys? (22:20) Uh-huh. (22:20) Yeah. (22:20) But, like, little stuff that you don't you know, commuting, like, I don't get caught in traffic.
Scott Benner (22:24) I don't like, you know what mean? (22:26) Stuff like that. (22:26) You you saw my biggest work problem is I left the window ajar, and I could hear a leaf blower up the street. (22:31) I was like, ugh. (22:31) Let me fix that.
Scott Benner (22:33) Have you ever gotten to like, but you started working out of college, like, very post COVID. (22:38) Like, you Yeah. (22:40) Very immediately. (22:40) Immediately. (22:41) But you had to go into an office?
Shane (22:43) Yeah. (22:44) I worked in a warehouse.
Scott Benner (22:45) Oh, okay. (22:46) Yeah. (22:46) So you got a hands on job.
Shane (22:48) Yeah. (22:49) Yeah. (22:49) Not a problem.
Scott Benner (22:50) I got a baby job. (22:52) What'd you go to college for? (22:53) Like, what what was your, your degree
Shane (22:55) in? (22:56) Integrated supply management.
Scott Benner (22:58) Oh, no kidding. (22:59) And that's a real, like, skill that you were able to go out in the row and put to practice right away? (23:03) Yeah. (23:04) That's awesome.
Shane (23:05) So, related to, you know, like, logistics, procurement, operations
Scott Benner (23:13) Making things work faster, better.
Shane (23:16) Yep. (23:16) Exactly. (23:17) So
Scott Benner (23:18) What's the dream? (23:19) Amazon? (23:20) Who does it at the highest level?
Shane (23:24) Wait. (23:25) What do you
Scott Benner (23:25) mean? (23:25) Like, what kind of like like, do you work at a smaller I'm not asking you where you work, but do you work at a smaller company or a really big place? (23:30) Like, I I was like, somebody
Shane (23:31) I've worked at some massive company, but now I work at a a much smaller place. (23:38) And, you know, I work contract a little bit, and then now I'm a full time employee.
Scott Benner (23:44) Oh, so you kinda came in to fix a problem, they liked you, you stayed?
Shane (23:49) Well, this is like no. (23:51) This is at a different company
Scott Benner (23:52) Oh, okay.
Shane (23:52) Not where I'm full time at. (23:53) But, yeah, that's why I did. (23:55) Yeah. (23:55) There was, like, a project manager, and they're like, we got this going on. (24:00) You did a good job, sorta extend your contract.
Scott Benner (24:03) Nice.
Shane (24:03) And
Scott Benner (24:05) Nice to hear. (24:06) Bet your parents
Shane (24:07) your incentives.
Scott Benner (24:08) I bet your parents were proud.
Shane (24:10) No. (24:11) It was great work experience, and I I felt really good about what I did.
Scott Benner (24:17) But every day every day they want you there, Shane. (24:19) So does Yeah. (24:20) Is that an on your feet moving around job?
Shane (24:23) No. (24:24) No. (24:25) It was it was more like an office
Scott Benner (24:30) Okay. (24:30) Alright.
Shane (24:30) So style job.
Scott Benner (24:31) I was
Shane (24:31) doing a lot of paperwork, making, like, bill ladings, packing lists.
Scott Benner (24:35) Gotcha.
Shane (24:36) Invoicing.
Scott Benner (24:37) Yeah. (24:37) So okay. (24:38) So I I fun stuff. (24:39) I got you back in high school now. (24:41) You're you're managing without a CGM.
Scott Benner (24:43) You're using a pump. (24:44) Mhmm. (24:44) You got an a one c in the eights, probably. (24:47) You head off to college. (24:49) So you said your note here says, what you said, how diabetes progresses throughout life as a male from childhood into adulthood.
Scott Benner (24:59) How other drugs outside of insulin affect your management of diabetes. (25:03) Yeah. (25:03) Let's talk a little bit about being a guy first and dating and all that stuff with diabetes. (25:08) What what what was your experience with that?
Shane (25:11) With dating?
Scott Benner (25:12) Yeah. (25:13) Like, what's it like telling a person for the first time, like, I use insulin. (25:16) I have this. (25:17) I might pass out. (25:18) Like, I could you know, like, what what what's that like to open up to somebody while you're trying to date at the same time?
Shane (25:23) Yeah. (25:24) And I guess in the dating aspect, it's, you know, it's something that's very important. (25:36) So you definitely wanna let them know, I'm like, hey. (25:41) Like, you know, if I'm not feeling, like, acting like myself, like, I might have lower high blood sugars or, like you know? (25:51) So
Scott Benner (25:51) Is that a tough thing to tell a stranger, though?
Shane (25:57) I to someone that I've dated or, like, in the past,
Scott Benner (26:05) no. (26:05) No? (26:06) No. (26:06) Okay. (26:07) But
Shane (26:08) for sports, I didn't like to tell my coaches.
Scott Benner (26:16) What sports did you play?
Shane (26:18) I played a lot of I did, like, everything. (26:22) I didn't think middle school. (26:25) I did cross country, swimming, wrestling.
Scott Benner (26:30) Okay. (26:30) Everything. (26:31) Like, in middle school, like, high school, you're doing that stuff. (26:34) Yeah. (26:35) Why didn't you like telling your coaches?
Shane (26:39) I don't know, Scott. (26:40) I just think that, like, it was embarrassing Mhmm. (26:45) Maybe.
Scott Benner (26:47) In a in a setting where
Shane (26:49) people to know because, like, I I guess I was sick and tired of just explaining the same thing over and over to everyone because, like, a lot of people growing up in my school district did not I was, like, one of the only people I knew of that had diabetes.
Scott Benner (27:06) Okay.
Shane (27:07) So yeah.
Scott Benner (27:09) You think there's a fear of looking you think there's a fear of looking weak, Shane?
Shane (27:14) What was the question?
Scott Benner (27:15) Do you think there's a fear of looking weak?
Shane (27:22) Looking no. (27:23) No. (27:24) I just, like, didn't feel like you're telling me.
Scott Benner (27:32) You just didn't want you you didn't wanna have conversations. (27:34) You weren't looking to talk to people who you didn't know that well and explain diabetes to them.
Shane (27:39) Yeah. (27:40) I guess I felt like I was like, if I something was that wrong, like, I never, you know, had such low blood sugar or so high that, like Was it led to, like, complication.
Scott Benner (27:54) Gotcha. (27:55) So you were you were you were rocking a higher blood sugar to be I mean, if you're if you have an eight a one c, what is that? (28:00) Like, a one what is that? (28:02) Like, an average of, like, one sixty or one let me figure that out. (28:07) So, so you weren't having a lot of lows while you're performing with your sports?
Scott Benner (28:11) Now did your mom and dad want you to tell the coaches and you just didn't? (28:15) Or
Shane (28:16) They they would. (28:17) They they would do it in the first week. (28:19) They'd be like, hey. (28:20) Did you know, like, Shane has type one diabetes? (28:23) And they're they'd be like, no.
Shane (28:26) You didn't say that.
Scott Benner (28:27) That kid don't talk.
Shane (28:30) Yeah. (28:31) It was just like, oh, that's that's great. (28:33) Like, you know, looking at it now from, like, my age, like, I I would have been like, are you kidding me? (28:40) Like, why wouldn't you tell me?
Scott Benner (28:41) So Shit's like, I the younger me was an idiot is what I'm trying to Yeah. (28:45) I should've definitely told somebody. (28:49) Yeah. (28:49) You're you know, an average blood sugar for, an eight a one c is, like, in the one nineties. (28:55) So you you weren't experiencing a lot of a lot of lows.
Shane (29:01) No. (29:02) I definitely saw at lows. (29:05) My my like, I would have to look at, like, the piece of paper. (29:11) I was definitely in the sevens, low sevens a lot. (29:15) Mhmm.
Shane (29:15) But, like, through puberty, that's where my a one c started to get a little hectic.
Scott Benner (29:22) Okay.
Shane (29:23) So but then it kinda balanced out more throughout college. (29:28) I'd actually did a pretty okay job, considering it was around the sevens. (29:37) I don't think I ever got above eights. (29:40) Okay. (29:40) Then some there's a lot going on with, you know, on top of college and with
Scott Benner (29:48) What else was going on?
Shane (29:51) Just, like, the curriculum, like schoolwork and act and then you wanna, like, be there for certain things. (29:56) Like, there's been plenty of times where, like, diabetes has gotten away where where I can't go out or I can't play in a game because my blood sugar is so high or it's so low. (30:08) And then, like, afterwards, I'm like, I don't have the capacity to mentally go out and and interact. (30:17) I'm like I'm just, like, over it. (30:19) I just wanna stay in.
Scott Benner (30:20) You get you feel a little rocked afterwards?
Shane (30:23) Yeah. (30:24) Definitely. (30:24) I can like, that can happen.
Scott Benner (30:27) Okay. (30:27) And that went on for years?
Shane (30:30) No. (30:31) No. (30:31) I wouldn't say for years, but definitely, like, in high school, starting then into college, and then now. (30:41) So when I was younger, I feel like I was just, like, a little energizer bunny just going everywhere.
Scott Benner (30:49) Yeah. (30:50) So, like, an anchor point for you, like, an an eight to nine a one c is, like, a one to, like, two blood sugar. (30:58) Just just interesting for people to listen. (31:00) Like, you know, if you have a you know, people you're talking about about a 10 a one c, that's an average of, like, two like, a 240 blood sugar. (31:07) You know, it's it's it's it's a lot.
Scott Benner (31:10) Like, you know what I mean? (31:11) Like, in is when you get lows too, you probably were getting lows that were, like like, crashes, I would imagine. (31:18) Like, you'd what? (31:19) Like, after an event or something like that, you drop quickly?
Shane (31:23) Yeah. (31:24) I mean, so, like, right now, Scott, I play hockey, like, every Sunday. (31:32) So and I gotta attribute a lot to this hockey league end because it's helped me get my current job. (31:41) I actually have now.
Scott Benner (31:43) Wait. (31:43) So You you play in ice hockey still, like, in an adult league? (31:47) Mhmm. (31:47) That helped you get you you networked at the hockey league and got your job?
Shane (31:51) Yeah.
Scott Benner (31:51) Nice. (31:53) Yeah. (31:53) And you and it keeps you keeps you moving. (31:56) Right?
Shane (31:57) Yeah. (31:57) And I stopped wearing my insulin pump, you know, as a full contact sport. (32:02) And and now we don't hit. (32:03) Like, you know, like, we we're paying full grown men to go play hockey.
Scott Benner (32:08) Yeah. (32:08) You're getting older.
Shane (32:09) We're not out there. (32:09) Like, I gotta work tomorrow. (32:11) I'm not trying to hit anyone. (32:12) I'm don't hit me. (32:14) But I don't wear an insulin pump anymore because I'm kinda afraid if they get broke.
Scott Benner (32:22) While you're playing, you take it off?
Shane (32:24) Yes. (32:25) So my butcher does spike then. (32:28) Like, the other day, it was bad. (32:30) It usually, like, usually, by the third period too, I don't feel as good as I did when I first started and then the first, like, couple
Scott Benner (32:40) Why don't you why don't you hook back in in bolus once in a while while you're playing?
Shane (32:45) Well, then I have to bring on a bunch and
Scott Benner (32:48) You'd feel better. (32:49) If I change, you'd feel better when it was over.
Shane (32:52) Yeah.
Scott Benner (32:53) Yeah. (32:54) I would like you to do that. (32:55) That's between you and me. (32:57) I don't want your blood sugar getting high for no reason. (33:00) You don't either, though.
Scott Benner (33:01) How long does it take to bring it back down afterwards?
Shane (33:03) Oh, like, my body's very responsive. (33:06) Like, it'll immediately start going back down.
Scott Benner (33:08) So you wouldn't need that much during play. (33:10) Probably just your basil to keep it at at bay.
Shane (33:14) Yeah. (33:14) I'd probably just need, like, two units.
Scott Benner (33:17) Yeah. (33:17) Well, listen. (33:18) You could always bolus a little bit before you start and bolus a little bit after the second period maybe.
Shane (33:24) Yeah. (33:25) It's just like the not having it on and then also just the exertion of playing. (33:33) You know, I would attribute something like like football
Scott Benner (33:36) Mhmm.
Shane (33:36) Being pretty similar. (33:37) You know, a lot of people play football.
Scott Benner (33:39) So Yeah. (33:40) With diabetes, there's I mean, every tight end in the NFL seems to have it. (33:46) Right? (33:46) Like, Andrews, Noah, there's, like, two other Chad is it Mooma? (33:52) How do you say his name?
Scott Benner (33:53) By the way, Chad, your wife keeps emailing me and then not getting back to me. (33:56) You wanna come on the podcast? (33:57) Let's go. (33:59) Other stuff. (33:59) Okay.
Scott Benner (34:00) So so that's what you do through I'm trying to imagine. (34:04) Go through high school, you're not wearing a CGM, you head off to college. (34:08) How does college change from high school, or does it? (34:11) I mean, is your life in high school pretty similar to your life in college, or do things change? (34:15) I mean, the food probably gets worse.
Scott Benner (34:17) Right? (34:17) The weed gets more plentiful. (34:19) Like, tell me what college is like, that transition.
Shane (34:22) Yeah. (34:22) Yeah. (34:23) So, yeah, to your point of food that everyone talks about, like, the, like, freshman 15. (34:30) So I definitely took part in that.
Scott Benner (34:34) Took your took your 15, did you?
Shane (34:37) Yeah. (34:37) Yeah. (34:37) I definitely gained weight. (34:40) I I just remember at the start of my senior year, I weighed, like, a hundred and fifty five pounds. (34:46) And then at the end of the year when I was starting to go to college, I weighed, like, a hundred and ninety.
Scott Benner (34:53) How tall are you?
Shane (34:55) Six foot.
Scott Benner (34:55) Oh, wow. (34:56) You were thin when you left high school.
Shane (34:58) Yeah. (34:59) Well, I used to do cross country, and I was pretty quick.
Scott Benner (35:02) Yeah.
Shane (35:02) I feel like I wasn't, like, Allstate, but I was running, like, six minute mile.
Scott Benner (35:09) You're keeping up with it. (35:10) Right? (35:10) Like, and looking good while you're doing it. (35:12) And then and then you put on weight. (35:13) You put on more weight than you put on 35 pounds.
Scott Benner (35:15) Right?
Shane (35:16) Yeah. (35:16) I I I got really serious with the last season of hockey because I was like, well, this is it. (35:24) Oh,
Scott Benner (35:25) you wait. (35:26) You played ice hockey in college?
Shane (35:30) I did a club.
Scott Benner (35:31) A club. (35:31) Okay. (35:32) Okay.
Shane (35:32) And this is a whole another story, but I so this is actually funny. (35:36) You'll probably find this pretty amusing, actually. (35:38) So I joined club at Western. (35:42) And from there, we went down to team South, and it was the worst hockey game I ever played in. (35:56) We lost, like, 18 to two.
Shane (36:01) My chin got cut open. (36:03) I had fourteen stitches in my chin, and I was like, well, this is no fun.
Scott Benner (36:10) I was gonna say this is this is supposed to be fun.
Shane (36:12) Yeah. (36:13) So Did you bring a goalie? (36:15) Friend. (36:15) You should have brought
Scott Benner (36:16) a goalie.
Shane (36:16) I'm the president of this fraternity. (36:19) You wanna join it? (36:21) And I'm like, yeah. (36:23) So I just do the I just dropped the team, and I joined it.
Scott Benner (36:25) Oh. (36:26) Oh, you were like that. (36:27) Yeah. (36:27) I probably won't get a bloody chin at the fraternity. (36:30) I'll try that instead.
Shane (36:31) What Yeah. (36:32) I'm like, that sounds more fun. (36:35) I don't wanna, like, travel and pay on top of school.
Scott Benner (36:40) Just to, yeah, to do this for club.
Shane (36:42) Just to get hurt.
Scott Benner (36:43) Yeah. (36:43) I gotta tell you, even when you're doing it for the team, it's a lot of effort. (36:48) You know, it's it's a being a being a collegiate athlete is a is a is a ton of effort. (36:53) It's like having two full time jobs. (36:55) Okay.
Scott Benner (36:56) So you dropped hockey, went to I mean, what are we talking about really? (37:00) What'd you pick up drinking?
Shane (37:03) Oh, yeah. (37:03) Definitely. (37:04) Just just how the culture is at a lot of schools
Scott Benner (37:08) Right.
Shane (37:09) Now. (37:09) So
Scott Benner (37:10) How did you manage that with the diabetes? (37:12) Like, did you end up low a lot in the middle of the night afterwards? (37:15) Or how how's drinking impact you?
Shane (37:18) It oh, I didn't have a CGM then. (37:22) So I don't know how I did it sometimes, Scott. (37:26) Like, I I don't the biggest thing was, like, I didn't wanna have low blood sugar while drinking because it's like, oh, like, everyone it's, you know, it's 1AM. (37:39) And
Scott Benner (37:39) Try not to be a bummer.
Shane (37:41) Yeah. (37:42) And it's like, oh, like, well, Shane passed out. (37:44) Like, it's like, no. (37:45) He passed out not from drinking, like like, from having complications. (37:50) Like, it's like his blood sugar is low.
Scott Benner (37:51) Right.
Shane (37:52) Like, that that thankfully never happened because, like, I always still knew the sensation of having low blood sugar while drinking.
Scott Benner (38:00) Mhmm.
Shane (38:01) So, just try to very stay in tune to those sensations that you get. (38:11) So
Scott Benner (38:11) Can you can you put that into words for me? (38:13) Like, how do you know when you're in trouble when you're drinking?
Shane (38:16) With low blood sugar?
Scott Benner (38:18) Yeah.
Shane (38:19) It's just like like like a pit. (38:22) Like, you're just like in your stomach, like, you're just so hungry. (38:26) It feels like nothing's there.
Scott Benner (38:28) Okay.
Shane (38:29) That's how I describe it.
Scott Benner (38:30) So the
Shane (38:30) Like, you just you just have an eight in forty eight hours.
Scott Benner (38:33) Okay. (38:33) Then you gotta
Shane (38:33) eat something. (38:34) You're fasting.
Scott Benner (38:35) You drinking beer, Shane, or or al or, like, different alcohol? (38:38) Or what what was your
Shane (38:39) I sucked at beer.
Scott Benner (38:40) Okay.
Shane (38:41) I did not like liquor.
Scott Benner (38:44) Okay. (38:46) So You still drink today or not as much?
Shane (38:49) I I still have some beers. (38:52) Yeah.
Scott Benner (38:52) Okay. (38:53) So You you manage it. (38:54) I'm I'm assuming you're not drinking to that point anymore, though.
Shane (38:57) No. (38:58) Right. (38:58) No. (38:58) No. (38:58) No.
Shane (38:58) No.
Scott Benner (38:58) No. (38:59) No. (38:59) Was just for school.
Shane (39:00) Yeah. (39:01) Just because well, I I I was, like, pumped. (39:04) Was like, oh, yeah. (39:05) Was like, I might go meet all these new people, and, like, I'm gonna go out and have party and, like, listen. (39:11) You know?
Scott Benner (39:11) Girls too? (39:12) Or just
Shane (39:14) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (39:14) Yeah. (39:15) Yeah. (39:15) So so you're trying to you're trying to meet people?
Shane (39:18) Yeah. (39:19) Like, networking. (39:20) Just.
Scott Benner (39:21) Like how you said network. (39:23) Yeah. (39:23) You're trying to you're trying to you're trying to trying to have sex. (39:26) Right, Shane?
Shane (39:29) Yeah. (39:30) I mean, like
Scott Benner (39:32) mean yeah. (39:33) Right? (39:34) Yeah. (39:34) You're not you're not
Shane (39:35) I I Good. (39:36) Yeah. (39:37) Like, when you join a, like, fraternities, that's they have, like, one on ones and then it's like, oh, like, we're by over a sorority, and we'll, like, get to meet each other.
Scott Benner (39:50) Right. (39:51) Yeah. (39:51) I I didn't go to college, but, like, it all seems pretty obvious to me. (39:54) We have our own place. (39:55) No one else can come into it.
Scott Benner (39:57) We can bring in beer and girls. (39:59) That seems like the whole thing. (40:00) Right?
Shane (40:03) No. (40:04) I mean, like
Scott Benner (40:04) There's more? (40:05) What else did I miss?
Shane (40:07) Well, like, we also, like, did other stuff. (40:09) Like like, we did, like, Special Olympics charities.
Scott Benner (40:16) Oh, you did some check? (40:16) Yeah. (40:17) You did well, that's during the day. (40:18) Yeah. (40:18) Of course.
Scott Benner (40:19) Yeah. (40:19) Yeah. (40:19) I mean, you got the
Shane (40:20) But yeah. (40:20) Like, yeah, like, on Friday night after, like, you know, the week's over because they're you know, like, there's, like, academic standard Right. (40:31) Too. (40:31) So Of course.
Scott Benner (40:32) Yeah. (40:32) No. (40:32) I imagine you gotta you gotta you gotta pass your classes and everything. (40:36) What was it like going to school at that time? (40:38) Like, that's is that COVID post you were you were in school during COVID.
Scott Benner (40:43) Right?
Shane (40:44) Yeah. (40:45) So it was hard, especially when during the transition of, like, March 2020, like, I had some engineering classes, and they were, like, labs. (41:00) We had to go in person for, like, three hours. (41:02) Mhmm. (41:03) And I I struggled.
Shane (41:06) I still passed, but that was one of the only times I ever got, like, a c. (41:12) So
Scott Benner (41:12) It's tough.
Shane (41:13) I just didn't know how to three d model in AutoCAD. (41:19) So
Scott Benner (41:20) From your house? (41:20) Did you have to go home for a while? (41:22) Did they they kick you off campus for a while?
Shane (41:25) Yeah. (41:26) So, like, I mean, I could still go to yeah. (41:29) I lived off campus, but, yeah, there was no more classes, like, on campus.
Scott Benner (41:34) Yeah. (41:34) Were you guys Zooming for a class at that point? (41:37) Mhmm. (41:37) Oh, jeez.
Shane (41:38) Yeah. (41:38) Teams.
Scott Benner (41:38) My son hated that. (41:40) He said it was terrible.
Shane (41:42) Yeah. (41:42) It was well, it was tough too from, like, the professor's perspective because it's like you have your curriculum. (41:47) You have your whole set up for the semester. (41:51) And then it's like, here's a wrench, and that derailed the train. (41:55) And now you have to figure out how to do this through email
Scott Benner (42:00) or Zoom. (42:01) Or virtually when you're used to being in public with in you know, with each other. (42:06) Mhmm. (42:07) Is but you got to go back. (42:08) Right?
Scott Benner (42:08) They what you missed? (42:10) Like, your was it, like, your sophomore year was messed up, or where where was it?
Shane (42:14) It was, like, my junior.
Scott Benner (42:15) Your junior year. (42:16) June. (42:17) Okay. (42:17) Yeah. (42:18) That sucks.
Scott Benner (42:20) Anyway, so you just hit an age. (42:24) Like, I like, you just you just had to get off your parents' insurance. (42:27) Right?
Shane (42:29) Correct.
Scott Benner (42:29) Can you tell me about that? (42:30) Like, was that a big, like, source of consternation leading up to it? (42:35) Were you worried about it? (42:36) Like, what was it like?
Shane (42:37) Yeah. (42:37) Definitely. (42:38) I was definitely worried about it. (42:42) Know, it it's a full step into adulthood. (42:48) Yeah.
Shane (42:50) I'm not worried, though, because I know I can do this.
Scott Benner (42:54) Mhmm.
Shane (42:55) So I would just have to keep, you know, pushing.
Scott Benner (43:04) It like getting that what's it like getting that first check when you're paying for your your your benefits all of sudden out of it? (43:12) Was it shocking how much money they took?
Shane (43:16) Yeah. (43:16) I mean, it's not something that's really talked about in, school. (43:21) So, you know, it's definitely a wake up call, but
Scott Benner (43:31) It wasn't too bad?
Shane (43:33) No. (43:33) I mean, like, I can keep all my bills paid.
Scott Benner (43:37) Yeah. (43:37) Good for you. (43:38) That's awesome. (43:40) Yeah. (43:41) I mean, yeah, that's not a thing.
Scott Benner (43:42) Like, when somebody says to you, like, oh, what are you, you know, what are you majoring in? (43:46) This is my major, and about how much money should I expect to make? (43:48) This is about how much money nobody nobody says, like, well, that's before taxes and before your and before your benefits and before you pay for, you know, all your bills and everything. (43:56) And you realize when you're done, you're like, oh, there's not a lot of money left. (44:00) It done and it doesn't matter how much you make.
Scott Benner (44:01) I, you know, I I saw a young person come out of college recently, super lucky. (44:06) By the way, not just lucky, a lot of hard work, but super lucky. (44:09) They came out of college making $90,000 a year, a lot of money. (44:14) You you know? (44:14) And and I was talking to this person, and I said, how do feel about this?
Scott Benner (44:20) He said, I was really hoping to make more money. (44:22) And was like, you were hoping to make more than $90,000 coming out of college? (44:25) And they were like, yeah. (44:27) He said, I don't know how I'm gonna make it on this. (44:28) I was like, wait.
Scott Benner (44:29) What? (44:30) I was like, in every
Shane (44:31) I guess it's like, where do you live then? (44:33) Because, like, you can live in Kentucky, and and the cost of living there will not be the same if you live in Massachusetts. (44:41) Yeah. (44:41) I Or something.
Scott Benner (44:42) I really I was just interested by, like, how much, like, cost has changed for things so quickly that, like, somebody's understanding of $90,000 was skewed so quickly. (44:54) You know what mean? (44:54) Like, it's a lot I I said, you know, there's a lot of adults don't make that much money. (44:58) And you're, like, you know, you're out of school here, like, six months and you're it's your first job offer.
Shane (45:03) Yeah. (45:03) That's fantastic.
Scott Benner (45:04) You're killing.
Shane (45:05) It's a lot.
Scott Benner (45:05) Yeah. (45:05) Yeah. (45:05) No. (45:06) I wanna be clear to this person. (45:08) Did a lot of work their whole life.
Scott Benner (45:10) Like, they came out of college like a full fledged adult on the on their topic ready to go. (45:14) You you know what mean? (45:15) Like, you there's no training for this. (45:17) This person's gonna slide in and do an amazing job, and has been working really hard their whole life to to get to that point. (45:24) But still, like, like, to hear them talk about the money like that and not be sure, like, is this enough?
Scott Benner (45:29) And I'm like, oh god. (45:30) And this person doesn't, you know, have any health issues that they know of at the moment. (45:35) So not a I I don't know. (45:38) It's just it's interesting. (45:39) Do you and your friends, like, ever talk about stuff like this, or does this not get talked about really?
Shane (45:45) Benefits, money?
Scott Benner (45:46) Yeah. (45:46) Money and, like do you guys actually, like, dig into this stuff?
Shane (45:49) Yeah. (45:50) I have a close group of friends, and we talk about this very often. (45:56) And this is all people I met through my fraternity, actually. (46:00) So
Scott Benner (46:00) Yeah. (46:01) That's become a good a good circle. (46:02) Friends. (46:03) Yeah. (46:03) It's become a good circle for you.
Scott Benner (46:06) Yeah. (46:06) Look. (46:06) Let me look. (46:07) So what else do you can I pick a little bit into, like, people your age? (46:10) Like, I've I've had some conversations with guys your age, you know, on the podcast in the last year, and I'm, you know, I talked about dating.
Scott Benner (46:17) They're like, I don't really worry about dating much. (46:19) I'm like, it's so weird. (46:20) Like, at your age, like, all I cared about was girls. (46:22) And, like and and earlier than that, but people don't talk about it the same way anymore. (46:25) Like, I I mean, college was the last time you could walk outside, walk into a room and expect there to be, like, dateable people in front of you.
Scott Benner (46:34) Like, now it's all digital. (46:36) Right? (46:36) And so, like Yeah. (46:38) How do you do like, are you maybe you're dating somebody already, but, like, how do you do that?
Shane (46:42) Yeah. (46:43) No. (46:43) You're completely right. (46:44) Honestly, it's, it's a you know, the only other place I really go to is like, I had to go out of my way to, like so that's why I try to keep active and, like, do other extracurriculars outside of work, So it's just, like, hockey. (46:58) I'm in a bowling league.
Scott Benner (46:59) Yeah. (46:59) I'm
Shane (47:00) trying to dart league. (47:01) Like
Scott Benner (47:02) Trying to get out of the house.
Shane (47:03) Yeah. (47:04) Yeah. (47:04) I love being trying new things.
Scott Benner (47:07) I mean, are there women at darts?
Shane (47:08) We're not good at it. (47:09) Like, darts are falling.
Scott Benner (47:12) I like that. (47:12) You so you'll go do things you you're not good at just to get out with people. (47:17) Yeah. (47:17) That's a good idea.
Shane (47:18) Because it's like, holy smokes. (47:19) Like, this guy just got a 180, like, three bullseyes. (47:22) Like like, what? (47:24) He's like, I just I just well, I just lost a game of five zero one in, like, six throws.
Scott Benner (47:29) Yeah. (47:30) What's happening? (47:31) I think that's really awesome. (47:32) My son came home with a guitar last week. (47:34) He's like Oh, I've
Shane (47:35) been thinking about getting Yeah. (47:37) Like, an addictive guitar.
Scott Benner (47:38) Yeah. (47:38) He's like, I'm gonna try
Shane (47:39) listen to, like, two thousand rock mainly because my, you know, like, my siblings.
Scott Benner (47:46) Mid That's
Shane (47:47) what they listen to.
Scott Benner (47:48) What bands is that? (47:49) What what where does that put you on on a band? (47:50) Like, what what kind of
Shane (47:51) Oh, boy. (47:55) Let's see. (48:01) Sum forty one.
Scott Benner (48:03) Okay.
Shane (48:03) I like listening to them. (48:04) Blake one eighty two. (48:05) Yeah. (48:06) That kind of
Scott Benner (48:06) I gotcha.
Shane (48:07) Music genre.
Scott Benner (48:08) That's interesting. (48:09) Yeah. (48:09) Yeah. (48:09) Like, when you say rock music to me, I think of anything between, like, I don't know, Led Zeppelin, the Rolling Stones, Metallica, through the Guns N' Roses era, through Nirvana, like then it kind of to me, the rest of it seems like pop music to me. (48:32) I know I know that that's that's not because when you said
Shane (48:34) I would say, like, there was a shift in, like, 2010, like, where pop music took took over.
Scott Benner (48:44) Yeah. (48:45) I know it's not poppy, like, in in the standard, but, like, when you say blink one eighty two to me, like, I don't think rock. (48:50) No. (48:51) Yeah. (48:51) It's interesting.
Scott Benner (48:52) Like, it just be but I also grew up, like, when I turned the radio on, every time I turned the radio on, like, you know I don't know. (48:59) Creedence Clearwater Revival came on or, like, you know, the Rolling Stones or, The Beatles. (49:05) Like, that was that was the radio when I was growing up. (49:08) I remember when, one day, the the oldies the oldies station in my town started playing Guns N' Roses. (49:15) And I was like, wait.
Scott Benner (49:16) No. (49:17) I I listened to that in high school. (49:19) Like, how did that happen so quickly? (49:21) It really freaked me out. (49:22) But now you probably don't even like, you're probably I mean, you're aware of some of these songs because they're so popular, but you don't know Yeah.
Scott Benner (49:28) You don't know 10 Guns N' Roses song. (49:30) You know Paradise City and Welcome to the Jungle. (49:32) You know what I mean?
Shane (49:33) Yes. (49:33) Yeah. (49:34) Definitely Welcome to the Jungle.
Scott Benner (49:35) Right. (49:35) Yeah. (49:36) Yeah. (49:36) It's interesting how quickly music moves, through through generations. (49:41) But, again, like, are you meeting dateable people at bowling and darts?
Scott Benner (49:45) No. (49:45) Right?
Shane (49:47) No. (49:47) No. (49:47) Yeah. (49:48) It's definitely digital now. (49:53) Quite a few of my friends, that's the same case.
Scott Benner (49:55) Yeah. (49:58) Is it awkward, or is it just so commonplace that it's not awkward?
Shane (50:04) I mean, like, it's it can be awkward. (50:09) You know? (50:09) If it is awkward, there's not another date. (50:12) But, I've had good dates. (50:16) It led to more dates and, that have built a relationship out of.
Scott Benner (50:22) Yeah. (50:23) So And you've had and you've had ones where you're like, okay. (50:25) Well, thanks. (50:26) See you.
Shane (50:27) Yeah.
Scott Benner (50:27) Yeah. (50:28) And you've you've disliked people and they've disliked you. (50:30) Right? (50:31) Or vice versa.
Shane (50:33) Yeah. (50:34) Yeah. (50:34) Or it's like, okay. (50:35) Like, feel like I tried this. (50:39) Like, go ahead and meet you.
Scott Benner (50:41) Yeah.
Shane (50:42) Like, you know.
Scott Benner (50:46) But you're But
Shane (50:47) yeah. (50:47) I mean, like, there's only so much time too for everything.
Scott Benner (50:52) Yeah. (50:52) To do that as well. (50:53) But on an app, am I right? (50:55) Like, Sheena, you're you're basically looking at five pictures of somebody and through five photos and something they said that doesn't feel cringey, you're like, okay. (51:02) I'll try this.
Scott Benner (51:04) And then you have to wait to see if they'll try it too. (51:06) Then they gotta look at your five pictures and what you wrote and go like, alright. (51:09) He doesn't seem like a lunatic. (51:10) And then and then you meet for a coffee or something like that.
Shane (51:14) Yeah. (51:14) Yeah. (51:14) I'm very casual.
Scott Benner (51:17) Yeah. (51:19) That's interesting.
Shane (51:20) You know, like like, let's go to, like, the local brunch spot
Scott Benner (51:24) or Mhmm. (51:26) No. (51:27) No. (51:27) I hear it.
Shane (51:27) I don't know. (51:28) Like, if the vibe's right, maybe maybe, like, hey. (51:30) Let's go play a game of darts and drink a beer.
Scott Benner (51:32) Yeah.
Shane (51:33) Like, I don't you know? (51:34) You do that. (51:34) Because maybe you're both beer enthusiasts. (51:37) Do you
Scott Benner (51:37) ever bump into somebody who just wants to have sex and they're not looking to date?
Shane (51:44) I don't really look for that Yeah. (51:46) Personally.
Scott Benner (51:46) There's a way to look for that, though. (51:48) Am I wrong about that? (51:48) Like, it kind of you just, you just kinda
Shane (51:51) Yeah. (51:52) You kinda just, like, swipe Yeah.
Scott Benner (51:53) You change
Shane (51:54) other way.
Scott Benner (51:54) You change what you talk about in in your buy I would be terrible at this, by the way. (51:59) Also, I think Yeah.
Shane (52:00) It's definitely very, you know, it's not
Scott Benner (52:06) very, like Optimal? (52:07) It's not optimal. (52:08) Right?
Shane (52:09) Yeah. (52:10) Because, like, a lot of them now too, like like so when I first using, like, dating apps, like, I use everyone knows Tinder and, like, Bumble. (52:21) Like, that's why I use, like, when I was first in college.
Scott Benner (52:24) Mhmm.
Shane (52:27) But, like, you'd be able to talk to people a lot easier. (52:29) But now if you don't pay for them, it's, like, a lot harder as a guy, at least, to get
Scott Benner (52:38) Oh. (52:39) It's like putting up a Facebook post and needing to boost it for anybody to see it.
Shane (52:43) Exactly.
Scott Benner (52:43) No kidding.
Shane (52:44) Yeah. (52:45) So I now that's how now it feels like I needed to boost myself versus, like, when the apps were so new, it was a lot more just like
Scott Benner (52:55) Well, they wanted people to have success in the beginning because they wanted you to tell other people about it. (53:00) Mm-mm. (53:00) Yeah. (53:01) Now now everybody has to use it, so now they gotta make some money off it somehow. (53:05) This is the part where they make the money.
Shane (53:07) Yeah.
Scott Benner (53:07) So That's a bummer, man. (53:09) Like, it it really is. (53:10) Like, I I don't know that it's that much different in generations past. (53:13) Like, you go get a job where, you know, whether you're a woman or a man, like, if you go get a job in a, you know you know, especially if you're I guess if you're a guy, you go get a job in a in a mainly male, like, you know, ecosystem. (53:26) There's just not a lot of women to meet.
Scott Benner (53:28) And, you know, if you if you're a girl, you go out, maybe they're you're in a little more mixed company, and that might be a little easier. (53:34) But, you know, I mean, you're in a warehouse. (53:36) I mean, there's not a ton of I wouldn't imagine, like, the the ratio must be pretty heavy to men where you're at. (53:41) Right? (53:43) In the warehouse.
Shane (53:44) I don't work at a warehouse anymore. (53:45) Oh, yeah. (53:45) No. (53:46) You're absolutely correct. (53:47) When I do go to my company's warehouse, it's mainly
Scott Benner (53:51) A bunch of guys.
Shane (53:52) Male dominated.
Scott Benner (53:53) Yeah. (53:53) Yeah. (53:53) Yeah. (53:53) Yeah. (53:54) Not what you're looking for, unless you are.
Scott Benner (53:56) I didn't ask you, but you just No. (53:58) Yeah. (53:58) Okay. (53:59) Yeah. (54:00) So what do you so do you live on your own, do you live at home still?
Shane (54:04) I have, roommates right now. (54:07) So, a split rent. (54:11) So it's, it's working out. (54:15) I we have no we we I've been living with the same couple of dudes for, once in a while, three years.
Scott Benner (54:25) Three years. (54:26) Okay.
Shane (54:27) Yeah. (54:27) And I I and when I lived in college too, had roommates. (54:30) Like, at one point, I lived with, like, five other guys. (54:32) Yeah. (54:33) So that was a This is There's a lot
Scott Benner (54:36) going on. (54:36) There's a lot going on.
Shane (54:37) A lot of smells. (54:38) Yeah. (54:38) Yeah. (54:39) Yeah. (54:40) It was, like, fifty fifty.
Shane (54:41) Like, half of us clean, half of us didn't, and then there was, a battle.
Scott Benner (54:46) Just the guy that vacuums and then everybody else just quietly sits there and goes, let him vacuum if he's gonna vacuum. (54:51) What about, it's interesting. (54:54) What what what about that that, having roommates? (54:59) Like, do do you have to, at some point, say to somebody, like, look. (55:02) I might need help, like or this is my glucagon.
Scott Benner (55:04) Like, if you had those conversations with people?
Shane (55:06) Yeah. (55:07) No. (55:07) Every one of my roommates has been very aware, and they're always been, like, occasionally, like, throughout time, but, like, how's everything going? (55:15) You know, like, is there anything I can do?
Scott Benner (55:17) Oh, that's cool.
Shane (55:18) Or just, like, hey. (55:19) Like, here's some snacks. (55:21) Like, I got you.
Scott Benner (55:22) You seem low. (55:25) Has that ever happened? (55:26) Has has a roommate ever come up to you and been like, hey, man. (55:28) Look. (55:28) You seem like maybe you need something?
Scott Benner (55:32) No. (55:32) No. (55:33) They're not that proactive.
Shane (55:34) I think people forget sometimes that I'm diabetic, honestly.
Scott Benner (55:38) Do you like that? (55:42) I
Shane (55:45) try to go throughout the day myself just like I'm not gonna let this get in the way. (55:52) Good. (55:53) So I'm gonna do what I gotta do to take care of myself and then go from there.
Scott Benner (56:03) If I asked you to describe yourself, like, how long how many things do you think you'd have to say before you got to, I have diabetes?
Shane (56:16) Yeah. (56:17) I mean, I I'd be more than my ten fingers.
Scott Benner (56:23) Yeah. (56:23) You'd be going for a while. (56:24) Right? (56:24) How did you find the how did you find me? (56:26) How did you find the podcast?
Shane (56:29) I think I just typed in, like, diabetes one day on Spotify.
Scott Benner (56:34) No kidding. (56:34) Yeah. (56:35) And then it
Shane (56:36) popped up, I was like, Juice Box. (56:37) I'm like, oh, like, obviously, like, you get a juice from your blood sugar
Scott Benner (56:41) as well. (56:42) That was it? (56:42) That was that my marketing worked on you?
Shane (56:45) Yeah. (56:46) It was really good.
Scott Benner (56:47) Thank you.
Shane (56:50) It's very good.
Scott Benner (56:51) My genius overwhelmed you, and you were like, oh, I have to follow.
Shane (56:55) Yeah. (56:55) No. (56:55) And then I listened to it, and I was like, this is very insightful. (57:01) You get to hear a lot of different perspectives Yeah. (57:06) Backgrounds.
Shane (57:08) And I think it's just good that you have this going, Scott, because it I I you know, I never done anything like this. (57:20) And
Scott Benner (57:21) Yeah. (57:21) You're nervous to do this. (57:22) Right? (57:24) Yeah. (57:24) Yeah.
Scott Benner (57:25) Yeah. (57:25) Yeah. (57:25) Yeah. (57:25) Yeah. (57:25) But but why was it important for you to come on and talk?
Shane (57:30) I just feel like, I hope I could've brought a different perspective out of it to provide.
Scott Benner (57:41) So No. (57:41) I just wanna
Shane (57:42) for having the disease for twenty three years, personally.
Scott Benner (57:46) Well yeah. (57:46) So It it's interesting because you made it through some time, right, where you were I mean, you're doing your eight a one c, and you're you didn't have as much gear as you have right now. (57:55) Now you have the gear. (57:56) Like, did you find just getting the CGM and moving to what you moved to tandem. (58:00) Right?
Scott Benner (58:01) And moving to, like Yeah. (58:02) You're using an algorithm, you use, like, the x two or something like that? (58:05) Mhmm. (58:05) Yeah. (58:06) And so was that the difference in the rest of the improvement, or had you made an improvement before then and this just makes it easier?
Shane (58:13) Well, definitely, I am a lot healthier perfect, like, person now. (58:19) I kinda do, like, had, a moment of reflection. (58:24) Be like, what am I gonna do, like, outside of, like, work? (58:31) And it's like, I can't just come home. (58:34) Like, I'm not in college anymore.
Shane (58:35) I can't just, like, come home. (58:36) And, like, I I was like, oh, I I'm still drinking or, like, you know, I I I would vape or any stuff. (58:45) I'm like, this is terrible.
Scott Benner (58:46) Yeah. (58:47) You you working, coming home habit. (58:49) You were working, coming home, getting high? (58:51) Like, you were still in college?
Shane (58:55) I no. (58:55) I wouldn't say I was, like, coming home and being high. (58:57) I no. (58:58) I broke that pretty quickly.
Scott Benner (59:00) That you broke
Shane (59:01) basically, it was just, like, who I was associated with
Scott Benner (59:03) Okay.
Shane (59:04) At the time. (59:04) That was, like, be like, oh, like, I made a pack myself. (59:08) Like, I would never smoke by myself with particularly weed because it's
Scott Benner (59:14) Seems sad. (59:15) Boring.
Shane (59:15) Yeah. (59:16) It's sad. (59:16) It's more fun when you're with others. (59:18) So Right. (59:20) Once I lost the association of people that smoke weed
Scott Benner (59:23) Weed went away. (59:25) Weed went away. (59:26) Okay. (59:27) You did it help you with your anxiety?
Shane (59:31) No.
Scott Benner (59:32) No. (59:32) Made it worse? (59:33) Did it make it worse?
Shane (59:34) You're telling yourself, like, oh, this is helping me. (59:36) But deep down, it's it's not.
Scott Benner (59:38) It's not. (59:39) It wasn't helping you.
Shane (59:40) It wasn't helping me. (59:41) It can help out, though. (59:42) Yeah. (59:42) Everyone's different.
Scott Benner (59:43) Yeah. (59:43) I know. (59:44) Of course.
Shane (59:44) So if it helps
Scott Benner (59:44) you out Yeah. (59:46) Right on that. (59:46) Don't mind. (59:46) Listen. (59:47) I don't care what
Shane (59:47) Yeah. (59:47) And and then it's also about, like, how much you do and when. (59:52) So, you know, if it's Monday morning, I'm gonna have my bomb. (59:58) Right?
Scott Benner (59:59) That's a little different than you have, like, a a pen that you hit twice a day.
Shane (1:00:02) Yeah. (1:00:03) And, no, like, my senior college, I got to one point like that. (1:00:05) Like, I'd wake up, and this is during COVID. (1:00:07) Like, I'm like, what am I doing with my life? (1:00:10) Like, I wake up.
Shane (1:00:10) I, like I don't even eat breakfast, like, brush my teeth. (1:00:14) I just, like, hit a the bowl or, like, a bun and then just sit around the couch. (1:00:20) Know the beards.
Scott Benner (1:00:21) Shane, you know you're in trouble when you start having philosophical conversations with your friends where you're like, do you think we should get a water bong? (1:00:27) I think it would make it better. (1:00:29) Like, you're like, like, how much better does weed need to get exactly? (1:00:32) You you know what I mean? (1:00:33) Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:00:34) Yeah. (1:00:34) But so what were you using, a, like, a heat pen, like, of like, just you're not even burning it. (1:00:40) Right? (1:00:40) Like, you're just heating it up and vaping it?
Shane (1:00:42) Yeah. (1:00:43) Scott, it's crazy, like, how, like, so much changed when I went to college because, like, vapes didn't exist
Scott Benner (1:00:50) Mhmm. (1:00:50) When I
Shane (1:00:50) was in high school. (1:00:51) Now they do. (1:00:53) So and then there was, like, different kinds of vapes. (1:00:55) And, like, there was, like, these, like just like music. (1:00:58) It's like, oh, there's the jewel.
Shane (1:01:01) Now there's a storm. (1:01:02) Now there's a mister Vapor. (1:01:04) And now the list goes on. (1:01:06) And it's like, now after that, I don't even know what they are now. (1:01:08) It's like, I stopped.
Scott Benner (1:01:10) Mister Vapor. (1:01:10) Mister Vapor is a funny name.
Shane (1:01:13) Yeah. (1:01:13) It's like, oh, like, oh, he's got the breeze.
Scott Benner (1:01:16) The breeze? (1:01:17) Oh. (1:01:17) You're like Yeah. (1:01:18) Now now people have social status based on the vape that they have?
Shane (1:01:21) Yeah. (1:01:22) Or it's like, what is that? (1:01:23) Like, oh, he has a breeze.
Scott Benner (1:01:25) He knows he knows things.
Shane (1:01:27) Yeah. (1:01:27) And I was just like And, obviously, nicotine
Scott Benner (1:01:33) is a drug. (1:01:34) Yeah.
Shane (1:01:34) Caffeine is a drug. (1:01:37) Those have direct correlation. (1:01:41) Alcohol. (1:01:42) Weed, not so much, honestly, from what I can tell, and fluctuating manually. (1:01:49) Like, obviously, I'd eat food, and that would do it.
Scott Benner (1:01:52) Right. (1:01:53) But weed didn't touch your blood sugar? (1:01:56) No. (1:01:57) No. (1:01:57) Beer did, obviously.
Shane (1:01:59) Beer, obviously, deal with with carbs. (1:02:01) Yeah. (1:02:01) Liquor, that's you know, depends if you're, like, chasing or mixing
Scott Benner (1:02:07) Right.
Shane (1:02:07) With other concoctions.
Scott Benner (1:02:09) So That's a lot, man. (1:02:11) Yeah. (1:02:12) It's a it's a lot. (1:02:13) Like, you leave, you're a kid, you go out there in the world, all of a sudden, all this stuff is not just, there. (1:02:17) It's, like, readily available.
Scott Benner (1:02:18) Right? (1:02:18) So you're trying things and and then but it sounds like you cycled through it pretty quickly. (1:02:23) It's it feels like you got the, like, the what am I doing part pretty fast.
Shane (1:02:27) And Yeah. (1:02:28) And I also just like the I don't know. (1:02:31) It's like I feel like I've discussed enough about myself where I I like to try something like, go do something, try something.
Scott Benner (1:02:42) Yeah. (1:02:42) You wanna get into the world. (1:02:43) You wanna get to life now. (1:02:44) Right? (1:02:44) Like, that's your I feel like that's what I'm hearing from you.
Scott Benner (1:02:46) Like, you I wanna get out, be around people, do interesting things whether I'm good at them or not, try stuff, try new stuff, keep moving. (1:02:53) Do you wanna get married?
Shane (1:02:55) Yeah. (1:02:55) I do.
Scott Benner (1:02:55) Yeah.
Shane (1:02:56) Yeah. (1:02:57) Yeah. (1:02:57) Definitely. (1:02:58) I I have a lot of inspiration come from my my family, you know, from aunts, uncles Mhmm. (1:03:07) My parents, siblings.
Shane (1:03:11) So Good. (1:03:12) Definitely inspires me. (1:03:14) You know, like, I'm an uncle myself self now.
Scott Benner (1:03:17) Yeah.
Shane (1:03:18) So it's great to hang out and get that exposure too.
Scott Benner (1:03:25) See people living lives with other people around them, people they love and care for and care about and everything. (1:03:30) Yeah. (1:03:30) It's interesting because there's it there's a lot of data that it feels like it's it's kinda funny. (1:03:36) Right? (1:03:36) Like, if you ask if you ask married people, if they're happier because they're married, like, it's interesting how the answers come back.
Scott Benner (1:03:46) You you know, like, people say, you know, they they definitely need people around, and they wanna have personal relationships in their home and everything. (1:03:54) But, but I think some of the data says that, like, people with children are less happy. (1:04:00) But at the same time, if you ask them if they'd not want their children, nobody generally says yes. (1:04:06) But they do report they report themselves as loving having kids, loving having a family, seeing how important and valuable it is in their life. (1:04:13) But, yes, I don't think I'm as happy as I would have been if I didn't have them.
Scott Benner (1:04:16) Isn't that interesting? (1:04:17) Like, good Yeah. (1:04:18) That is. (1:04:19) Yeah.
Shane (1:04:19) Yeah. (1:04:19) I mean, know anytime I go home and I see my parents, like, they're pumped. (1:04:26) So
Scott Benner (1:04:26) No. (1:04:27) They're probably thrilled.
Shane (1:04:28) Oh, they they probably on down the road too. (1:04:29) I'm sure, like, that can just change throughout time because maybe, you know
Scott Benner (1:04:33) No. (1:04:34) Shane, unless your parents are meth heads, like, I they're they're probably sitting around quietly just waiting to see you again, and they're probably just thrilled to see you. (1:04:42) You know? (1:04:43) Yeah. (1:04:44) I it's hard for you to know that at 26, but I guarantee you're somewhere your mom is just like, I wonder when I'll see Shane again.
Scott Benner (1:04:49) Like, seriously. (1:04:51) This is Pretty soon. (1:04:51) Yeah. (1:04:52) Pretty soon. (1:04:52) She has a good I need I need some laundry done.
Scott Benner (1:04:54) I got other things I got going on. (1:04:56) I'm gonna be
Shane (1:04:56) No. (1:04:56) No. (1:04:57) No. (1:04:57) I do. (1:04:57) I do.
Shane (1:04:58) I take care of my
Scott Benner (1:04:59) You do my own laundry. (1:05:00) So how long you think
Shane (1:05:01) She'll walk through that. (1:05:01) She'll be like, hey. (1:05:02) Brandon, I'm like, you don't need to do it.
Scott Benner (1:05:04) Yeah. (1:05:04) But you know why she's offering. (1:05:06) Right? (1:05:09) Don't know why she offers. (1:05:10) She misses you.
Scott Benner (1:05:11) She misses she misses that part of her life that's gone where she took care of you and and you were around all the time. (1:05:19) There's an argument to be made that you should let her do your laundry.
Shane (1:05:22) I I actually just did over Thanksgiving.
Scott Benner (1:05:25) So I bet you made her as happy as could possibly be. (1:05:27) She's probably she's probably
Shane (1:05:28) Here's my stinky laundry.
Scott Benner (1:05:30) She was probably thrilled, like, genuinely.
Shane (1:05:33) So I should give her my hockey bag.
Scott Benner (1:05:35) Yeah. (1:05:35) Well, nobody's gonna be happy about that. (1:05:37) There were some baseball stuff in there.
Shane (1:05:38) That thing stays zipped.
Scott Benner (1:05:40) Oh my god. (1:05:40) There's some stuff in my car when the kids were growing up. (1:05:43) I was like, oh, god. (1:05:44) Just throw it away. (1:05:44) We'll get another one.
Scott Benner (1:05:45) It's horrible. (1:05:46) Yeah. (1:05:46) Yeah. (1:05:46) Just really bad.
Shane (1:05:47) Those t shirts are only worn for hockey.
Scott Benner (1:05:51) You know, at 20, you You're permanently Yeah. (1:05:53) Yeah. (1:05:53) We were just talk how old do you think you'll be when you get married? (1:05:56) Do you have, like, a in your mind, is it
Shane (1:05:59) I have no like, this this time, this day, you know.
Scott Benner (1:06:05) No. (1:06:05) But in age. (1:06:06) Like, do you see yourself married by a time? (1:06:08) By, like, a
Shane (1:06:09) I wouldn't be surprised, like, if within the next four year.
Scott Benner (1:06:12) Four years. (1:06:12) Do you know that girl right now?
Shane (1:06:18) That's that's a great question. (1:06:24) I think so.
Scott Benner (1:06:25) Oh. (1:06:26) Yeah. (1:06:26) Look at you. (1:06:27) That's very nice. (1:06:28) Have you thrown darts at her yet?
Scott Benner (1:06:30) No. (1:06:30) No? (1:06:31) You should take her out. (1:06:32) See if she can throw a dart. (1:06:34) See if she can hang.
Scott Benner (1:06:35) She got a good sense of humor? (1:06:37) Mhmm. (1:06:38) That's good. (1:06:38) You're gonna need that. (1:06:39) Are you okay when she's mad?
Scott Benner (1:06:41) Because she's gonna yell at you a lot over the years.
Shane (1:06:43) Yeah. (1:06:44) Everyone gets mad.
Scott Benner (1:06:45) You'll be alright with that. (1:06:45) Okay.
Shane (1:06:48) You don't get mad. (1:06:49) It's like, oh, okay.
Scott Benner (1:06:51) Yeah. (1:06:51) Yeah. (1:06:51) Yeah. (1:06:51) Well, it is weird when people don't get upset, isn't it?
Shane (1:06:55) Yeah. (1:06:55) I mean, I really don't get upset a lot. (1:06:59) I know I don't. (1:07:00) But when I do, it's very obvious.
Scott Benner (1:07:03) Yeah. (1:07:03) Well, everybody gets upset. (1:07:04) Like, I'm I'm I'm weirded out by people who act like everything's always okay always. (1:07:08) I'm like, uh-huh. (1:07:09) What are you hiding exactly?
Scott Benner (1:07:11) You know? (1:07:12) No. (1:07:12) It's alright. (1:07:13) It's so interesting. (1:07:14) So this girl you know the girl, but you're not dating her.
Scott Benner (1:07:16) Is that right? (1:07:19) I mean You have? (1:07:21) No.
Shane (1:07:23) No. (1:07:23) That it's just something very new.
Scott Benner (1:07:25) It's something oh, it's a new oh, you've met a new person that you're that you think might be the right person.
Shane (1:07:30) Yeah. (1:07:31) I mean, I didn't date for a very long time, Scott. (1:07:34) So
Scott Benner (1:07:35) Because
Shane (1:07:35) I did that on purpose after college. (1:07:38) I'm like, I'm just gonna focus on work, finally making more, like, money. (1:07:45) Mhmm. (1:07:46) I need to.
Scott Benner (1:07:47) Yeah.
Shane (1:07:47) You know? (1:07:48) Like like, things are starting to get real now. (1:07:51) So, really went on, like, a journey of just, like, trying new things out, trying to meet more people, expand on stuff I love. (1:08:04) So I think in my email, I sent you reaching out. (1:08:12) Actually, I mentioned, like, doing long distance running.
Shane (1:08:17) So I found people that once I moved away from college to where I'm at now
Scott Benner (1:08:23) Yeah.
Shane (1:08:25) It really inspired me to really achieve, like, those milestones of, like, running a half marathon
Scott Benner (1:08:32) Mhmm.
Shane (1:08:33) A 25 k and a marathon. (1:08:39) And I'm really happy I did all that, but I don't think at now, at this moment, I would ever wanna do a marathon again. (1:08:50) Maybe a half an hour, but a marathon is just way too much.
Scott Benner (1:08:54) There's a lot of effort.
Shane (1:08:55) Especially being diabetic. (1:08:56) Yeah. (1:08:57) Like, I don't know how I did it when I
Scott Benner (1:09:00) did it. (1:09:01) Did you have a lot of supplies with you while you were running?
Shane (1:09:04) I had so much Gatorade. (1:09:07) I had, like, a belt wrapped around me. (1:09:12) And then
Scott Benner (1:09:13) You're like it was Gatorade. (1:09:14) You're like Batman with Gatorade going for a run.
Shane (1:09:17) Yeah. (1:09:18) Yeah. (1:09:18) I was the only person with Gatorade to strap on in the in the race. (1:09:24) I can see.
Scott Benner (1:09:25) I think the, the image for your episode will just be Batman in a marathon with food around his waist and and a really old sticky CGM cover.
Shane (1:09:35) Well, you also have to eat so much food and, like like, the amount of carbs that go into it. (1:09:40) And I'm like, I just can't do this for, like, a guy that's my size. (1:09:44) Like, I'm six foot, and I'm, like, two hundred ten pounds now. (1:09:48) Like, I actually gained weight from
Scott Benner (1:09:50) from trying to run. (1:09:51) Because, yeah, because you were feeding so many lows.
Shane (1:09:54) Yes. (1:09:54) Like, I would do my lawn run with my train buddy every Saturday. (1:10:05) And the longest one that we did got up to 20 miles at one
Scott Benner (1:10:09) Jeez.
Shane (1:10:09) At one point. (1:10:11) And I wouldn't be able to, like, move, like, walk downstairs. (1:10:15) I am like I'm like, this is brutal. (1:10:18) No. (1:10:18) If I drive me a It takes, like, three hours to do it.
Scott Benner (1:10:22) Oh my god. (1:10:23) If I had to drive 20 miles, I'd be irritated once a week. (1:10:26) But
Shane (1:10:29) it was the it was so much fun because, like, you have like, I listen to music.
Scott Benner (1:10:35) Yeah.
Shane (1:10:36) So I got to, like, really, like, dive into muse like, more. (1:10:41) And, I didn't listen to podcast. (1:10:44) I did not
Scott Benner (1:10:45) Is it hard?
Shane (1:10:46) Listen to music. (1:10:47) Yeah. (1:10:47) You listen to music when you're ready. (1:10:48) I listened to music the whole time during my actual race.
Scott Benner (1:10:52) That makes sense.
Shane (1:10:52) Like, I made a playlist that was four hours long. (1:10:55) And I'm like, okay. (1:10:56) If I make it to this song, I know I didn't finish Yeah. (1:11:02) In my time.
Scott Benner (1:11:02) I have an I have a last question for you. (1:11:04) Did when you found the podcast, did you did you listen to the management stuff? (1:11:09) Like, did you care for the pro tip series, for example, or did you get your information out of conversations?
Shane (1:11:14) Yeah. (1:11:15) I listened to the pro tip series. (1:11:17) I I was very sporadic in listening to the podcast. (1:11:23) Mhmm. (1:11:24) I'm very sporadic in general general.
Shane (1:11:28) But yeah. (1:11:31) No. (1:11:32) Listening to your protest series and just like it's a nice reminder for stuff I already know
Scott Benner (1:11:40) Mhmm.
Shane (1:11:40) That I've been told throughout time just to be like, oh, yeah. (1:11:44) Or just you know, like, I need those those reminders.
Scott Benner (1:11:49) The reminders. (1:11:50) It keeps it in your head. (1:11:51) Right?
Shane (1:11:52) Yes. (1:11:52) Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:11:53) I I
Shane (1:11:54) Even though, like, I've dealt with this for twenty plus years, so it's still need to be reminded.
Scott Benner (1:12:00) Right. (1:12:01) Right. (1:12:01) No. (1:12:01) I I agree with you. (1:12:02) I think it it's very valuable like that for people.
Scott Benner (1:12:04) Did your a one c or your variability get better when you were listening, or does is it better when you're listening?
Shane (1:12:11) Yeah. (1:12:12) I would say so far, there is a correlation with that. (1:12:15) It's definitely very in par with using a CGM.
Scott Benner (1:12:19) Mhmm.
Shane (1:12:20) But, yeah, my last a one c was a 6.4.
Scott Benner (1:12:26) Good for you, man.
Shane (1:12:27) I hear
Scott Benner (1:12:27) That's awesome. (1:12:28) You're 26. (1:12:28) You get a 6.4. (1:12:29) You're making money. (1:12:30) You got your eye on a lady.
Scott Benner (1:12:32) You might have you might be you might have a baby eight years from now.
Shane (1:12:37) Very true. (1:12:38) Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:12:38) You would you worry about diabetes for the baby?
Shane (1:12:41) Yes. (1:12:42) This podcast has actually opened up my eyes to to that.
Scott Benner (1:12:48) So you you know what to look out for you know what to look out for then? (1:12:51) Mhmm. (1:12:52) Okay. (1:12:53) Yeah. (1:12:53) It's a lot, man.
Scott Benner (1:12:54) Life's big. (1:12:54) You know? (1:12:56) Yeah. (1:12:56) Yeah. (1:12:57) How do you think you're doing?
Scott Benner (1:12:58) Like, if I I I know I that was my last question. (1:13:02) This is my last question. (1:13:03) How are you doing? (1:13:05) And and how what are your what are your expectations for the future? (1:13:12) Do you think you're gonna do well, like, with your health?
Scott Benner (1:13:14) Like, do you feel generally positive, generally neutral? (1:13:17) Like, how do you feel about the future?
Shane (1:13:19) Right now, I'm doing a lot better than I was two years ago, I would say, in a multitude of aspects from, like, mentally, mentally, physically, financially, really taking that time for twelve months to set aside, to really think about the future and
Scott Benner (1:13:44) Pull yourself together a little bit.
Shane (1:13:46) Yeah. (1:13:47) Yeah. (1:13:47) Yeah. (1:13:48) And I am definitely a little worried just because, like, you know, I just in the sense that, like you know, like, I don't know what diabetes is gonna do to me, like, in complications.
Scott Benner (1:14:14) You're worried you're worried that something unforeseen could happen.
Shane (1:14:17) Yeah. (1:14:18) I mean, that's life, though.
Scott Benner (1:14:19) Yeah. (1:14:20) You're right. (1:14:20) I I think that is life. (1:14:21) Also, I mean, listen. (1:14:22) Keep your a one c where it's at.
Scott Benner (1:14:24) Keep it nice and stable. (1:14:25) Don't have a lot of lows. (1:14:25) Don't have a bunch of highs that you ignore, and I think you got a real good shot. (1:14:29) You know what I mean?
Shane (1:14:30) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (1:14:30) Yeah. (1:14:31) No. (1:14:31) It's interesting. (1:14:31) If if I could have gone back, like you said, you're better off now than you were two years ago. (1:14:35) If I go back three years ago, is there anything I could have said to 23 year old Shane that would have snapped him out of it, or did you have to go through this process?
Shane (1:14:44) I think I had to just go through this process. (1:14:48) Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:14:48) Yeah. (1:14:49) I think I believe that too.
Shane (1:14:51) Okay. (1:14:51) Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:14:51) Alright, Shane. (1:14:52) I appreciate you doing this. (1:14:53) I really, thank you very much for taking the time, and I know I had a little technical thing in the beginning. (1:14:57) I appreciate you being, patient about that. (1:14:59) No.
Shane (1:15:00) Of course. (1:15:00) Thank you, Scott. (1:15:01) I really appreciate your time today too and and talking with you, and no worries about that. (1:15:06) I'm glad we got the the all work out. (1:15:09) So
Scott Benner (1:15:09) Yeah. (1:15:09) This is awesome. (1:15:10) Thank you so much, man. (1:15:12) Hold on one second for me. (1:15:13) Yep.
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