#1513 Flying Floozy
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Lori, 56, has type 2 diabetes and takes Ozempic—her husband has type 1. We talk life with two types under one roof and how the podcast became part of their daily routine.
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Speaker 1 0:00
Welcome back friends to another episode of The Juicebox Podcast.
Lori 0:14
Hi, I'm Lori. I'm 56, year old. I have been diabetic type two for five years due to having a very good endocrinologist, had some very good success with those. Empi, nothing
Speaker 1 0:28
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Lori 3:04
Hi, I'm Lori. I'm 56 year old, mother of two and grandmother of two. Live in the beautiful gateway to the west metro area, and I have been diabetic type two now for five years, and I have, due to having a very good endocrinologist, had some very good success, and especially with the medication we'll be discussing today, which is ozempic. So Well,
Speaker 1 3:33
listen, before we get into all that, Why have I never heard anybody say gateway to the west before? But that's what the arch is, though, right? Yes, sir. I've just never heard that phrasing,
Lori 3:44
beautiful gateway to the west. For some of us anyway, are very proud of that. That brings the historical aspect as a the expansion to the West as our nation grew. And I to me, that's, that's important, pretty cool. I'm educationally. I think it's very important to always respect those things.
Speaker 1 4:06
Yeah, I want people to also. I don't want to bum you out. Lori, but there are two other places that are also frequently called gateway to the west. You know what they are? No, I'd love to know what are they Pittsburgh, PA, because it was key transit hub during early American expansion, and Omaha Nebraska due to its role in western migration and as a major railway hub. Wow, so you're fighting with two other places for that moniker. Wow.
Lori 4:33
Thank you for that. Wow, that's all. I did not know that. Lori, none of us did you learn something new every day, which is what my mother, God, rest her soul, has told me I need to do all the time. How
Scott Benner 4:48
old was your mom when she passed? Way too
Lori 4:50
young. She missed her 67th birthday by
Speaker 1 4:54
three weeks. Oh my gosh. Now how long has she been gone? 10
Lori 4:57
going into June of 20. Five will be 11 years now, I ask,
Speaker 1 5:03
because at 56 you have two grandchildren. And I thought, Yes, this is a family of people who gets out and gets going. Because if your mom's gone already and you're, you know, 56 years old, then I thought, oh, maybe that's same thing. So did your mom. You know how old your mom was when she had you, I
Lori 5:19
think in in her very early 2021 22 something like that.
Scott Benner 5:25
And how about you with yours?
Lori 5:26
I, because of part of what figures in for me medically here, I didn't have my first one of my two children until I was 29 pushing 30,
Speaker 1 5:42
pushing 30. Yeah. So how it felt?
Lori 5:46
Literally, I was in between the two she was, she was a June baby, and I'm born in September. So I was 29 but I would that September, right after she was born, in June of 1998 I was going to be hitting 30 years old. I
Speaker 1 6:05
hear you. Okay. So you've got two kids now, and they're how old my
Lori 6:09
eldest, our daughter is sick. A is 26 and my baby is 22 my our son is 22 and he and I, oddly enough, work at the same place, just in different departments.
Speaker 1 6:25
Interesting. Now, you said that you were diagnosed with type two. How long ago? Five years,
Lori 6:30
five years. But I was gestationally diabetic with both of the kids, both of the kids worse with my second one than the first one. Okay,
Speaker 1 6:41
so do you first by far? Now, let me so, let me ask you a question, like a diagnosis five years ago. Did it come on all at once? Have you ever looked back and thought, oh, maybe this had been going on longer, but this is just when it got to a crescendo.
Lori 6:54
It was because I had been, as I was saying, gestationally diabetic, and my with, with some blood line history of it in the family, I knew that after being gestational at some point it was going to be, I was going to go, I went pre diabetic, and then I ended up going type two. So it wasn't, it wasn't a great surprise. And
Speaker 1 7:21
no, no, no. So as a gestational they told you, hey, you're probably gonna have type two diabetes one day. Yes. Okay, yes. And then when do you think you were pre diabetic? Like, when did that start happening?
Lori 7:32
I was pre diabetic when my by the time my youngest was born, which would have been 2001 2002 I was pre diabetic at that point.
Speaker 1 7:44
Okay, and then how long did that pre diabetes part last? I can probably do, but probably,
Lori 7:52
well, almost 20 years. Yeah, almost 20 years. I want to
Speaker 1 7:56
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Lori 11:43
was trying to watch my diet at times, probably better than at other points. I can be sometimes sort of a rascal rebel, but I knew enough because family connection is that my mother became insulin dependent type two diabetic when I was freshmen in college and her mother was was
Speaker 1 12:16
insulin dependent diabetic. How many kids did your mom have?
Lori 12:19
Well, she miscarried one, and then she had, she had me, and then she had my younger, my only other sibling, my sister, who is still living, and she is, she's diabetic as well. She's on 11 year.
Speaker 1 12:35
Okay, so this is a family game. Everybody has type two.
Unknown Speaker 12:38
Yeah. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1 12:40
all right. Well, that unfortunately, no, but that's interesting. That's, I don't know Lori how transparent I am. This is why I asked a lot of questions about your mom when we were starting, I just, I didn't jump on I was like, I wonder if I can make Lori sad about her mother. Like, that's not what I was doing anyway, if I did that, I'm sorry.
Lori 12:56
I already am that way anyway, because I miss her so desperately. Funny, I could
Speaker 1 13:03
hear in your voice, that's why I'm I'm apologizing. Well, let's take a second. What is it you miss? Like, like, you're in your 50s, right? I'm in my 50s. My mom's gone. Like, what's gone now that you want that isn't there? Is it just a longing, or is there something like functional that's gone, that's changed her life. I
Lori 13:22
think it's the realization that I don't have her to go to now as guidance for me as a grandmother, I still there's so many times I want to go. What should I know that I don't that I'm afraid I'm not going to know when I should kind of thing.
Speaker 1 13:43
What's the thing you think she would tell you that you that you don't know already, that
Lori 13:47
I just have to keep learning each and every day. I mean, I just she, she would just say, you gotta, you gotta keep on, keeping on and and keep your focus on knowing that you want those grand babies to be, to grow up, to be healthy and happy and have a great life, but I don't know I'm hard on myself. I'm my own worst enemy that I admit
Speaker 1 14:15
that? Yeah, well, Laura, I was going to ask you, Are you are you not doing those things? Is it difficult? And her reminding you would make you remember how important it is to fight through difficult things. Like, where's the sticking point for you? I know you missed her. Like, don't get me wrong about that, but like, where's the sticking point? I think
Lori 14:32
it probably is the her reminding me that, that I know, that I do know what to do. I think it's the confidence angle, yeah, like a coach, the confidence, right? Like a like a coach.
Scott Benner 14:46
Like a coach. Do you find life difficult?
Lori 14:49
Well, let's put it this way. It's not just a diabetes that I deal with. Okay, I was born legally blind. Oh, okay, and so I'm. I only have my left eye is the only usable vision I have left that and the diabetes, and the fact that, as you know from all the other diabetes you talk to, I also have hypothyroidism, okay, and with that, Hashimotos, oh, the energy level. Yeah, the energy level can be a
Speaker 1 15:24
real struggle, yeah. So how does the Hashimotos impact? What do you have going on? A
Lori 15:29
lot of times in the morning, it's a it's an awful brain fog, horrible energy like, like, you didn't rest. I keep telling myself, you gotta move. You gotta, you gotta get that one foot in front of the other and move and go do and it's like, oh, I want to do is go back to bed and go to sleep. I have to tell
Speaker 1 15:52
you, I my wife is in the middle of a course of iron infusions. Her iron got very low again. Yeah,
Lori 15:59
I have slight anemia too. Go that angle. She's getting
Speaker 1 16:03
her third one today, but prior to it, like a month before, I talked her into believing, like, I was like, you have to go get an iron infusion. And she's like, Well, I'm gonna talk to the doctor first. I'm gonna do this. And I'm like, No, don't do that. And then that, like she was already beat up. And then over that last 30 days, then it just she fell off a cliff, and then she was, like, just laying around, unable to, like, you know, like she was barely get being able to do her job, like, for some days, I'm like, This is really bad. And so now I'm like, I'm calling the doctor. I'm doing this because at that point she was so out of it. I think she just would have continued to dwindle away, because I don't even think she had the energy to call the doctor, so I set the whole thing up. I got her off the thing. I took her to the first one. I sat there with her while she did it. She did the next one last week. She's doing another one today, and you can watch her coming back to life, right? And I said to her yesterday, we're talking in the middle of the day. And I said, is this like, just what happens to most women who don't know about this iron infusion thing, or can't get it for their insurance. Or what about in the past? Like, and I started thinking about, like, for, you know, 100 years. Like, you know, what happens when you get to menopause, or you're on your way to menopause, or you have heavy periods, or PCOS or something, and your iron levels are super low. But then you made me think of it again with the thyroid situation. Like, you know, your thyroid is way off. It's just, there's a it's a lot, yeah, I, I'm
Lori 17:24
slightly anemic, and with the hypothyroidism, I struggle with that energy level. And the hard thing is, I, I tend to be the caretaker. I when my mother was alive, Scott, I helped oversee her health care. Once she started having issues she had before she passed away, she had three light heart attacks and two major strokes. Jesus, the two major strokes happened within three months of each other. I saw the first one happened right in front of my eyes, and I will never forget it. Lori is that from high blood sugars, I believe that that was what heavily played into it. Yes, yeah, oh gosh, high blood sugars, and she was and she also had high blood pressure. So
Speaker 1 18:09
all right, listen, before we move forward, because I want to ask about all that. I just want to clean something off my desk here, and I want to make sure this is recorded. If anybody's buying this little silver flashlight from Lowe's, it's garbage. Project source, listen to this, right in the trash. What a piece of crap. Okay, it lasted for like three weeks. It's $20 just gone anyway. Project source, little, uh, silver flashlight at Lowe's. Don't buy them. They're lows. Go to hell. Just took my 20 get what I mean, gave me a flashlight for three weeks. I rented a flashlight from Lowe's for 750, a week. Is what just happened, dollar a day. Now let's move on to your your family's horrible love with type two diabetes, right?
Lori 18:50
Like I was saying, I I helped oversee my mother's health care once her health care started going down really badly, like that. That's where things for me, that part of me, but I also live with my husband, who is a on an insulin pump and type one diabetic. So
Speaker 1 19:10
wait, so your your husband is type one, yes, okay, your type two. Did your mom have gestational did they even talk about it like that back then
Lori 19:20
that? I don't know, and I don't have any way of I know that she had the high blood pressure, which, which made for the low worth, the low birth weight babies. My sister was littler than I was, and I was only four nine. I think she was four seven or four, five, yeah, like that.
Speaker 1 19:39
I have a feeling, if that, I dig back through my notes. So I'm going to learn that if you have blood sugar issues while you're pregnant, that your kids have a higher risk of getting type two diabetes. So, oh yeah, so I don't
Lori 19:51
know that they did know back then that probably did play into it. I'm I'm going to wager, to bet, because. Because both my sister and I both are type two, so I can only speculate that that probably does have some validity. Last
Speaker 1 20:08
question about your mom before we move on to you, how was her weight? Was her weight an issue? Or was she okay with that? No,
Lori 20:14
her weight was an issue. She was heavy the the best portion of the best part
Speaker 1 20:21
of your life, of her, yeah, yeah. Is that familiar as well? Or are a lot of like women in or men in your life, in your family line overweight?
Lori 20:30
Well, I know that that not only her, but my mom's brother Sam, was a trucker that died of sudden heart attack. He was diabetic. He had gone into dia diabetes by the time he had his heart attack, sudden heart attack that killed
Speaker 1 20:48
him. It's a skirt. It's a scourge on your family. Lori, for real, really, yeah,
Unknown Speaker 20:52
yeah, yeah. It
Speaker 1 20:54
was. Well, maybe, maybe this is it, the obesity, yeah. Like, let's stop it right here, right? So A lot's happened. You get your, you know, your pre diabetes goes on for a long time. Five years ago, they tell you, that's it. I guess that's how they treat it, right? You tipped over the number you have type two diabetes now, like a like a bar mitzvah. And then how do you start treating it? Five years ago? What do you do five years ago?
Lori 21:17
Five years ago, we started working with the endocrinologist that we're with right now, who is fantastic. He is a blessing. Truly, He works with us as truly, as a team partner in treatment. He truly sits and listens to us and says, What are your goals? What do you want to accomplish here and back? When I started with him, I'm really short. I'm 410, and a half, and stuck five years ago, I was 200 pounds. Dad, wow.
Speaker 1 21:54
How did you get to that? Do you think, like when you look at it, do you think this is genetic? It's food related, it's activity related. It's a little bit of each. I
Lori 22:04
think it's a little bit of each. I think it's there was some genetics with it. But I think I remember at one point and it was true, my daughter would say to me, we would go out with family to a restaurant and and I would just like, how down. And my daughter would say to me, my God, Mom, you eat like a trucker. And I hate to admit it, but it was true. It was true.
Speaker 1 22:28
So Lori, tell me something. Is it just the way you were brought up? Like, do you know the difference between healthy food and not healthy food? And you just were like, Oh, screw it, I'm eating this. Or was it just the way it was presented to you and you and you were just eating the way you've been brought up. I
Lori 22:42
grew up my dad's side of the family were farm folk, okay? Farm folk know how to put out a spread. They know how to eat.
Speaker 1 22:54
Yeah, yeah. You know what? I've had people explain that to me, like the food was so fresh at one point in their lives, like you made it, like you got it and you made it because you couldn't really store it. But then it turns into a way things are done, right?
Lori 23:07
Well, I mean, yeah, you might have the eggs and homemade bread or whatever, but you start adding the biscuits and gravy and the bacon and, yeah, grits. And I would say, give me the bacon, give me the sausage, give me the ham, give me the eggs, give me the grits, give me the whole night. I mean, I just, I would
Speaker 1 23:29
Were you hungry, like, like, did you have like, a real hunger inside of you? Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 23:34
I could shovel it in. Like, Nana,
Speaker 1 23:38
do you know I'm saying though, were you eating to eat, or were you like, did you have an actual
Lori 23:41
home? No, I was hungry. I was at that point, I would eat and I was hungry. Okay, I got you. I was young enough at that point, I wasn't realizing what that was doing. Okay?
Speaker 1 23:52
So you're shorter to begin with, in stature. You don't have as much space on your body to to add weight, right? Like, it's just kind of the way it is, right? And then at what age do you think you were overweight?
Lori 24:04
That would have probably been in my middle college
Speaker 1 24:08
years. Okay, 19 ish, right around there,
Lori 24:11
probably more like 2122
Speaker 1 24:16
Okay, okay. Everybody says the same thing, right? Like, Oh, you were college. Now you're gaining weight. That's okay. It happens everybody's at the vibe you're
Lori 24:23
in college. You're doing your own thing. You know, be your own you do? You do you kind of thing? Yeah, well, you do. You only go so far. Laura's doing I'm chowing down. Bro, yeah. No, she's Bring, bring on
Speaker 1 24:38
the food. Oh my gosh. It's okay. So the eating continues at school, blah, blah, blah, you gain weight. You get married. How old? I
Lori 24:46
was 25 My husband was got married. He was 23 so we we met in university, we met in school. You get married, you start having. And the kids. My kids were four years apart. I was 29 pushing 30 was the first one, and I was almost I was 33 almost 34 was the second one, and he cost me a cesarean to bring into the world. I am so tiny I cannot carry a baby to seven pounds zero, okay, yeah. He got two, six pounds, 14 ounces inside of me. Wow. And I think that was because of the gestational diabetes. He went breach within inside of me at 26 weeks, and at 36 and five, well, 36 and four. At night, my water breaks because he there's no more room, and he's just, I'm on my way mom. What you know? So he was born by cesarean. That next the wee hours of 36 and five, and we spent five of the next days, the most terrifying days, I think, on planet Earth. My gosh, that whole situation we started out. He was not blue or gray. He was completely purple. I am laying on the or table, and all I can hear is this little instead of that lusty newborn cry, all I can hear is this what sounds like, almost like a little kitten viewing. And I've had an epidural that unfortunately went up out of the epidural space and numbed even the base of my tongue. If that doesn't scare you death, I'm wanting to scream. Somebody do something. And the team was, they were, I just, you know, I was so out of it, I really couldn't have comprehended to the full what was going on, but started out with with oxygen level issues, which, which could have meant permanent brain damage, went from that into bilirubin levels, which didn't come down with the initial therapy. So they come in one morning. Okay, we're going to have to increase the bilirubin light therapy I'm already put together. Okay, we're looking at possible brain dunes. I know enough to know you lose a liver, you lose a life that same morning, they come in and say, Now someone's heard a heart. Mum, yeah, yeah, that's a heck of a start. Yeah, my husband is at work. I am hearing this from medical team. I am psycho, Yeah,
Speaker 1 27:24
I bet you did my god. How is he now? How did things work out for him? Things
Lori 27:28
work out except for he does have ADHD. He does have some short term memory affectation. Other than that, he is 22 he drives. He is brilliant enough that he he left high school early, but he got his GED and in a class of people that was taking four plus years, he did it in three months. Gotcha awesome. He's a really smart kid. Got the biggest loving heart ever because he's got his daddy's heart. He's got his daddy's loving kindness about him.
Speaker 1 28:04
All right, so let's out of that. So what we have here now is you chugging along, and five years ago, you're overweight. They're telling you have type two diabetes. What's the first medication they gave you? Metformin?
Lori 28:16
Yes, yes. They gave me Metformin, which got my blood sugar stabilized out. But oh, my God, I hope I never have to be on that stuff ever
Scott Benner 28:26
you make Yeah, a lot, a lot of Gi problems. I
Lori 28:28
had a very rare reaction to it. Usually it gives people the diarrhea, the flying floozies me. It didn't do that, it gave me rock hard. Oh, constipation. Constipation. It, I mean, I probably will have some permanent hemorrhoids.
Speaker 1 28:54
I gotta ask you questions, but let's stop for a second the flying floozies as
Lori 29:01
well. I guess that's a probably a country colloquialism
Speaker 1 29:07
I'm looking up right now if that's the thing that, because my friend of mine used to say the trots. And now I'm wondering where that came.
Lori 29:12
Yeah, the back door trot the flying flus. It's colloquialism. Hold on
Speaker 1 29:18
a second. The Fly and floozies is definitely a creative and humorous take on diarrhea, kind of like a mix between flying fluids and an old timey term for fast moving alignment. It gives off whimsical, almost pirate era medieval vibes. If you're looking for fun alternatives, try the turbo trot, the liquid lightning, brown thunder, the galloping gut, the speedy squirts, mudslide mayhem and Hershey hurricane. And for those of you who think that AI is not helpful in this world, I want to find out if it's a well known colloquialism, huh? I know you're all like, oh my god, it's not going to spell colloquialism correctly. I did all right, so now it says here that the flying flus is not a well known colloquialism. Yes, but the runs, the trots, mud butt, the Scoots, code Brown, the Hershey squirts, Montezuma's revenge and deli belly is they are cool. Oh, my goodness, my friend Mike had the trots. Oh, what's the etymology of the trots? We're almost we can get back to it in a second, I know now you're like, wow, he said etymology, and he spelled that correctly. It's super weird slang for diarrhea. Smart man, well, I don't know about that. Oh, so Lori, my wife has to go out to get her iron infusion. I am now babysitting a puppy while we're doing this. So this is my first time doing this. Okay? He's like, 10 weeks old. He's not gonna talk, so you're not gonna know us here. But now I'm holding a puppy doing this. I puppy doing this, teeny tiny I'll tell you. Okay, so the term the trot as slang for diarrhea, comes from an idea of trotting, which implies rapid and repeated movement, similar to urgency, and no kidding, the word trot itself dates back to Middle English, meaning Trotter to move at a quick pace, referring to horses the context of diarrhea likely developed as a euphemistic or humorous way to describe the frequent urgent trips of, oh, it's probably about how people ran to the bathroom, yeah,
Unknown Speaker 31:10
yeah, exactly
Speaker 1 31:13
similar to the skitters the galloping gut and the runs, yeah. What a weird language we have. We just keep making up different terms for, like, loose stool. Anyway, I know, right, ridiculous. So Metformin gave you constipation. But what did it do for your type two? It
Lori 31:29
did stabilize out my blood sugars, so much so that our endocrinologist was able to get me off of that, thankfully, finally okay and get me on. The next thing was, he looks at me and he says, I don't know if he'll want to try this, but I think you would benefit from the GLP one medication called ozempic. I think it would help you lose the weight, which is really playing into a lot of my other health conditions. I have asthma, right on top of chronic allergies. Some it was affecting my lungs. I have a bad back. It was causing my back issues. I've had bursitis in my hips and just everything, everything that comes with pulling on everything right, right? Because I am like, I'm a caretaker. I realized I not only take care of my mom, I live with someone who's a type one that I love dearly, and I realize if I'm not taking care of myself, I'm not going to be able to take help, take care of him. That's
Speaker 1 32:41
the first time it hit you like that. Yeah, yeah. How old was he when he got type one?
Lori 32:47
We found out he was diabetic back in like, I want to say, 2012 All right, and he loops now
Speaker 1 32:56
he's a looper. Let's stick with you, though, so you have every reasonable expectation of a body that's carrying too much weight, problems like those sorts of problems, right? And you're having trouble with blood sugar and everything else, and you've described your hunger as voracious, so, right? How long ago did you start with ozempic?
Lori 33:17
Ozempic, I started almost four years ago now, okay,
Speaker 1 33:21
now. Let me ask you, Lori, are you comfortable telling me your weight four years ago like I was 200 pounds, 200 pounds, four foot 10, 200 pounds. Do you know what your body mass index was? I
Lori 33:32
know it was way. It was like two or three times when it should have done it. It was awful. Okay,
Speaker 1 33:37
I can't reach my computer now because of the puppy, but hold on one second, it was
Lori 33:41
awful. Put us that way, at 210
Speaker 1 33:45
pounds, a four foot 10 woman's BMI would be what, let's see if we can find
Speaker 2 33:50
out, or four foot 10 inch tall, person that's about 1.47 meters tall. 210 pounds is about 95.3 kilograms. So the BMI would be 95.3 divided by 1.47 squared, which is about 44.2 a BMI over 30 is considered obese, and the BMI over 40 is considered severely obese. It's always good to consult with the healthcare provider.
Lori 34:17
I think mine, if I remember right, I think I was at that, like, I want to say 40 or 4142 something like that.
Speaker 1 34:26
Yeah, that's what chat GPT said, too. So, okay, yeah. So all right, so you started a 40 BMI, which is, is it said? Very obese, awesome language, obese, very obese. Like, what's the next one? Not awful. Well, not where you want to be that awful. It doesn't to me, Laurie, I just want to say, and I imagine you know this already, or you wouldn't be here wanting to talk about it with me. I don't honestly care how you got to it. What I know is what it was doing to you. You're a person. You're lovely, and if you can get out of this any which way, as far as I'm concerned. So you take the ozempic. Starting four years ago. I want you to walk me through it. What was the first week? Like, the first month, the first year? Are you still taking it? Now? I
Lori 35:08
am still taking it now. Yes, the first week or so was not so bad, because I was. I started on the lowest, like, point five milligram, yep, which was just the beginning dose, and it really didn't do a whole lot. I was supposed to add point to 5.25, up to, like we we moved it up to a point where, where it was one milligram, that first month, or two to two, two and a half months, was really rough. That's okay, rough, how it was rough, because it was definitely cutting my appetite. But I was finding out that for me anyway, if I tried to resist, if I tried to go beyond where it was, telling me Stop, don't eat anymore. For me, it acted like an abuse.
Speaker 1 36:02
Yeah. What was the problem? So, like you, it was telling you, it would
Lori 36:06
make me suddenly, if I went over where it was telling me, you're full, it's time to stop. And I pushed it and went beyond that, it would make me physically ill, yeah? I mean, I would think I was just playing on I'm going along, I'm just fine, and all of a sudden I've got to run to the bathroom because I'm I'm going to boss,
Speaker 1 36:32
I'll tell you, like, this is great that you're here and you're so welcoming to talk about this, because this is one of the things I've been listening to people talk about, and I'm a little weirded out by it. You get this medication, and they tell you, like, this is going to take away your hunger, you're going to lose weight. Tell me first though, like, before I say what I'm weirded out by, what was the explanation to you when you were they said, here's ozempic. What did they tell you? They thought it was going to do for you?
Lori 36:56
My endocrinologist explained that it would not only to keep my blood sugar stable, but it would help me begin to gradually, over time, lose weight. Because what it was going to do was help to reset the satiety signal, I guess, the part in the brain that tells you stop, I'm full. There's there's too much here. Okay,
Speaker 1 37:25
so did anyone ever say to you, this is going to slow your digestion down, so food is going to stay in your stomach longer? They did, yes.
Lori 37:33
Okay, yes, that was my endocrinologist. Did explain that, yes. So then
Speaker 1 37:38
this is where I'm going to ask my first like question that some people are going to think is critical, but I don't care, because Lori, you're going to you're going to be the mouthpiece for everybody I've ever wondered this about. So no pressure. You're speaking for everyone. Okay, when someone tells you your digestion is going to slow down, the foods going to stay in your stomach longer, and you go, Oh, I'm full. I should stop eating. But you make a conscious decision, like, no, no, I can push through this. Is it really the medicine that made you sick?
Lori 38:05
Yes, because the medicine is designed to work with that signal enough in the way that it's trying to teach you there are going to be consequences. I'm
Speaker 1 38:20
saying, like, when you say to yourself, I'm full, and I know my digestion slower, so there's still food in my stomach that's been in there longer than not. And the decision is, I'm gonna stick more in there. You never get the feeling of like, this stomach only holds so much, and I'm gonna jam more in there that doesn't fit right now, and it's not gonna come out well, and then I get sick afterwards and say this medicine made me sick. Because isn't that it's the eating that made you sick at that point. Do you see what I'm saying? But you were looking for to do more than that for you, like you thought, if it was doing all the things I'm just trying to get to how people think about this.
Lori 38:53
I guess the way I really thought was that my endocrinologist explained to me that because it was going to slow my digestion down if I tried to fight the medication. That the medication is designed in such a way that it will, it will give you that consequence. It will, okay,
Speaker 1 39:14
yeah. So you expected not to feel well after you did that.
Unknown Speaker 39:17
Right? Okay, right.
Speaker 1 39:18
Okay, okay, I did Yeah. Then, for people who don't understand the chemical makeup of overeating, like, why did you do it? If you knew it would make you sick, frankly,
Lori 39:30
a lot of times, because this is something that's a favorite food of mine, and I want more of it, and I'm a big brat. I'm a strong audience. I'm gonna do it anyway. I'm a rumble.
Speaker 1 39:48
I'm not judging you like I'm literally just trying to hear why I know it's akin to me saying, like, hey, look, if you stay up here in the curb, you'll be fine, but there's a bicycle race going on, so if you walk out into the street, a bike might. Hit you, and five seconds later, I look over and you're laying in the street, and four bikes have run over you, and I go, Lori, what are you doing? You go, I just really wanted to go across the street. It's odd for people who don't understand overeating and that drive to just keep going. You know what I mean?
Lori 40:13
Yeah, for me, it just was finding myself just rebelling, you know, thinking at that moment, because I want that was a favorite food or whatever, I don't want to listen to the medication, because do what I want to do at that moment. You kind of go, I'm going to do what I'm going to do, damned as a consequence. Okay, I'm Irish, and I haven't been temperament, but,
Speaker 1 40:41
yeah, but Lori, what do we do about that? It's four or five years later, right? How much do you weigh today? I
Lori 40:48
weigh about 140 now, one between one, no, I'm going to say 142 143 now, I had gotten down as low as like 131 I sort of had sort of a an emotional setback, if you will, because my dad passed away in May of 24 that kind of did another emotional loop that At that point I found myself emotionally eating, even though I knew sometimes that I was pushing the envelope, I would eat a little more than I should have been. I have picked up a few of those pounds back, but that said I know what I have to do now to get it back off, and I know that I can do it, so
Speaker 1 41:44
I'm not worried about a couple of pounds while Listen, obviously, Lori, between you and I, and whoever's listening, you should probably talk to a therapist about your eating, right? Like, because you're covering for something like, obviously, the stress of your dad put you in a different direction, even with the medication. That's not what we're talking about here, though, right? Let me go back to 140 pounds from 210 I don't know you well enough, like, and there's some people who tell me I curse too much and everything, but like, a that's awesome. Like, congratulations. That is really just wonderful. You know what I mean?
Lori 42:15
Yeah, from 200 pounds to even 140 the difference in the way I feel now is, how's
Speaker 1 42:24
your hips, how's your back, how's all that? I have
Lori 42:28
not had to go to the chiropractor in anywhere near as well. I used to have to go at least every couple of weeks to once a month, if I could withstand it, every couple of months, but I haven't had to go to the chiropractor now in months.
Speaker 1 42:45
And how do your like? How do your joints feel? My
Lori 42:49
joints are fine. I'm sitting here basically pain free. I now, I won't say it's it's not cured my I do at night. I do have RLS,
Speaker 1 42:59
restless leg you have that I don't know if that's gonna cure that or not, and your your eyes, your eyes don't work right? It's not a magic medicine. It's
Lori 43:07
not but what it does when it when it gradually helps you safely lose the weight, I feel terrific compared to how you did four years ago, I felt ugly. I felt like I was unhealthy. I was having a lot more struggle with my asthma. It was awful, and I knew that I was I was tearing my body apart, right?
Speaker 1 43:35
Yeah, the weight just has implications all over the place that you sometimes you can't measure because it comes so quickly or so slowly. Excuse me, you don't realize that, Oh, my knee hurts, but it's because I'm 20 pounds heavier, or my hip hurts because I'm 40 pounds heavier. Or, like, you know what happens over time, right? Well, that's awesome. First of all, I want to apologize if anybody can hear this puppy snoring, but that's awesome, and I'm super happy for you. How are your a one CS?
Lori 43:59
My A, 1c when I started on the Metformin, Scott was like 7.5 Yeah, I want to say it was 7.5 my a, one CS generally now are all the way down to, I've had it as low as 5.8 look
Speaker 1 44:17
at you. And have you made any adjustments to the types of food you eat, or is it still very just much what it was in the past? I
Lori 44:25
try to not do as much of the some of the starchy stuff and whatnot, but to me, it's more portion portion control, because I refuse to give all of it up. I may be Irish by maiden name, but I'm I married Italian for a reason.
Speaker 1 44:40
You want that pasta. I love my pasta.
Lori 44:45
I love my pasta, that kind of thing. And I'm I'm not going to give all of it up. What
Speaker 1 44:52
about exercise? Are we exercising at all? Any weight training, like light weights, not
Lori 44:57
so much that, but I will do like low. Impact in the pool. I'll do some exercising in the pool. Kind of thing. This
Speaker 1 45:04
is more than you would have before the weight loss. Is that right? Yeah,
Lori 45:08
yeah. Before the weight was off, the doctor would say to me, how many times a week are you exercising? I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1 45:18
okay, I weigh 210, pounds, and I'm 410, I don't exercise. I'm trying to stay
Lori 45:21
alive. It's like, Dude, it hurts to walk more than about two or three blocks. It's torture. Exercise like hell. It's hard to do, right? It's, you know,
Speaker 1 45:33
let me ask you, Larry, I'm gonna ask you to make a profound statement if it's something you believe, but if it's not something you believe, you can tell me to go to hell. Okay, okay. You think you're on your way to your mom's end if you don't find ozempic, yes, yeah, right, yes, yeah, yes. Are you sad because this wasn't available for your mom?
Unknown Speaker 45:52
Very, yeah, very, don't
Speaker 1 45:54
feel guilty about that. Okay, please. You know, nobody knew. So you know, it's not like 25 years ago. Somebody was, you know, had ozempic and wasn't giving it to your mom. It just didn't your mom. It just didn't really exist yet.
Lori 46:04
So no, I know it didn't. I think, if anything, I think I felt like when I was dealing with her, I kind of felt like because of some of my dad's reactions and stuff, I kind of felt like I somehow didn't have the right puzzle piece to turn it around where she could have survived and been still alive today. But as you said about the food, yes, I'm in therapy. Yes, I'm having to.
Speaker 1 46:31
Are you really? Oh, that's awesome. That's excellent. Yeah, yeah,
Lori 46:35
I am. I am, because what the grief over her loss to be and some of the outcomes of some of the family issues that that left hard led me into, led me into major depressive disorder. And that's part of the treatment agreement is I have to go to therapy, which, which I wholeheartedly agreed to. And I'm I'm learning that I can't blame myself for something that isn't my fault. It felt like it was, but it's not really. And my therapist keep pointing out it's not your fault that it it wasn't your fault, it wasn't ever your fault. However, that idea got communicated to you? It was a lie, yep.
Speaker 1 47:24
Lori, I mean specifically about health and weight, right? If people with your genetics end up in a part of the country where that's what eating is, then that's it like, that's the That's right, that's a spark that starts the fire. And, yeah, to say to somebody when they're 40 years old. Like, you know what the problem is here? You need to go for a walk. Like, you think that's the problem. I mean, okay, like, it's a first step in this situation I'm in now. But I would have
Lori 47:48
told you, if somebody had said that to me, I would have said, dude, yeah, that's not the whole thing. That's an effing drop in the ocean. You
Speaker 1 47:58
listen to the podcast, right? Lori, if Jenny's parents would have adopted you when you were a baby, your life would be different. They ate differently. They thought about food differently. They would have raised you differently around food. That's it. Your genetics would have come into play still, you know what I mean. But you would have, you would have been in at least on a different path, and now, because, you know, instead of bumping into somebody's parents, who would have set you up in a certain way, or a part of the world where they ate differently, you found ozempic And you lost, yeah, 70 pounds off a 410, frame. That's insane, right? It is insane. Oh my god. It's absolutely insane. And you feel so much better, and your a one sees better, and you're not going to have high blood pressure, and you're not going to have a heart attack, or you're not going to have a stroke like that. Stuff's not going to happen now to you, then your kids get to see that. They have a shot at mimicking that then, and then they have a shot at this not happening to them. Now, if it should happen to them still, now they won't wait. They'll go to the doctor and they'll say, Hey, listen, my grandmother died from this. This almost killed my mom. She found this stuff. It saved her. Give it to me now, and they can do that before they have 70 pounds to lose. And then their kids don't grow up that way. And then that puts a stop to it, right? You know, you're such an important part of this piece of this puzzle for your family. You know, by doing this thing, which, by the way, I'm going to tell you, four years ago, going on ozempic, that was not a thing people were just doing all the time. Like, I know now everybody's talking about it, but that was a big jump. And, you know, you didn't know, like, we know so much more about how it impacts you now and what might happen and how to, like, navigate it. And you know what I mean, like, you got people out like me out there going like, hey, let's see if you get constipated. Take magnesium oxide, take this much and try that, or do this, or see if this doesn't work, or people are talking about it, so you can hear conversations about it and feel normal, or get tips and tricks that didn't exist for you four years ago. I wasn't around. Then,
Lori 49:56
I just would say, you know, if somebody's gonna say. I don't want to get on that, if it's going to make me sick the first couple two, two and a half months, it's only going to do that if you push the envelope. If you don't tend to push the envelope, you're not pushing the envelope where
Speaker 1 50:18
you're overeating. If you don't overeat, then it should be okay. If you don't eat a bunch of fatty things or fried things or like then it should be okay like that, because that stuff digests slower.
Lori 50:31
If you listen to your body, it's going to tell you the medicine is doing. It's going to tell you, I'm old. Yeah,
Speaker 1 50:39
stop. I met somebody two years ago who's using this, a type one, who's using it and having great success, lost a bunch of weight, a one, Cs are better and everything. And I said, How's it going? It says, I throw up every day. And I'm like, what? I'm like, What are you talking about? And then he tells me, Oh, I eat through it.
Lori 50:55
Uh huh, uh huh. That's what I'm telling you, exactly, yeah, that's exactly what.
Speaker 1 51:03
But then people hear that and they say, Oh, I heard ozempic makes you throw up. Like, nah, that's not what makes you throw up. I want to say this. Don't get me wrong. It might not be right for everybody. It might not work the same for everybody, even type ones who are having, like, luck with it. If you're not insulin resistant and type one you might not and you're not overweight, you might not see some big help from a GLP medication, right? Like, it's important to listen to how Lori, like, lays the story out. Like, yes, it helps with a one CS, but it helps with a one CS through, oftentimes, either weight loss or the implications that the medication has on a person who's actually insulin resistant, right? You know, like, that's where you're going to see type twos are obviously helped. But you also will see, like, my daughter is helped by it, because she's a type one, but she has insulin resistance. Her doctor has told me, If Arden didn't have type one diabetes, I would probably diagnose her as having type two diabetes because of her insulin resistance, right? And so, you know, like, that's, like, these nuances are so important to talk about because it gets out into the Zeitgeist and people start thinking they know what they're talking about, and they're, you know, oh, you're cheating, or you just don't just do a sit up, you know what I mean, like, that kind of stuff. Like, you don't understand Lori is an example, just through her genetics, is probably in this position, whether she lives with Jenny's parents or not. Like, you probably end up overweight at some point, just because of how your body's built and wired. And you know what I mean, and now, all of a sudden, just, I don't know, like, if you can't be happy for somebody who just lost a third of their body weight and got them down to like, are you comfortable? Do you think 140 is a good weight for you, or do you think your body's carrying too much weight right now?
Lori 52:45
I think, honestly, I need to get off the emotional thing that I've been working through over the last several months and get back down to that one 131 and I'm aware of that, and I was telling myself the other day, you know, yeah, quit using the crutch of the you know, yeah. Dad passed away and, and what he passed away of was awful. The shock of seeing what he looked like at the end was, it's not fun. Laurie, yeah, no, don't. My dad passed away finally, of Parkinson's and Alzheimer's together.
Speaker 1 53:24
Oh, sorry. But also, did he have type two diabetes? No, he didn't have any diet. He wasn't pre diabetes. Nothing, no, okay, if anything,
Lori 53:32
he probably had low blood pressure, low blood pressure or blood sugar, yeah, no, low blood pressure. Okay, oh, he would get dizzy because his blood pressure was lower. He was perhaps not allowed to do military service because he had what they called back in those days, branch bundled short in his heart. All that means is that the condition where you have that extra heart beat when you get excited, yeah, once in a while, that's what it would do to him, but they but the military wouldn't allow him to serve that So Lori, let
Speaker 1 54:10
me tell you something. I think you and I are in the same place right now with our GLP journey. And let me, if I'm wrong, you'll tell me, but I feel like I'm hearing in you thoughts I'm having, not even thoughts, just like implications, which is, if I take my GLP every week, I don't have to eat well, and I won't gain weight. I'm not saying, like, I'm having, like, 1000 cookies and cakes and snacks and all this stuff, like, I still eat pretty much the way I eat. But like, I'm saying, if I a good example this week is somebody brought cupcakes to my house, and I was like, I'll have a cupcake. I didn't eat it because I wanted it, and I didn't eat it because I was hungry. I ate it because it was a cupcake. And I was like, it's a cupcake, right? There's fun. You know what? I mean? There's like, chocolate chips on it and so but my point is that is this is like, I know if I keep taking this Med, my weight is going to stick right around where it is, around a. 80 pounds, but I don't belong at 180 pounds like I have been 174 on this medication, and I was probably five pounds away from my needed to be. I think my body is set up to be about 170 pounds before I add back a bunch of muscle like so I haven't done a ton of I'm doing a little bit of resistance stuff, but not enough. And if you heard episode 1411 recently with Dr Hamdy, he said, I don't believe that a person should be using a GLP medication if they are not getting enough protein and doing muscle weight training. And so he he's trying to tell you how important it is to lift heavy things if you're on a GLP because he takes and if you haven't heard it, go, Listen, right? Because you are going to lose muscle on this medication, and muscle is hard to get back, if not impossible to get back, especially when you're 53 or 56 like we are. And so if we're not lifting heavy things and making sure we're getting enough protein to help support muscle growth, right and strengthening, then he's like, it's just bad. Also, I'm sorry. The dog is really snoring.
Lori 56:04
I can't hear it that much, if, if at all, be
Scott Benner 56:08
quiet. Be real quiet for a
Lori 56:16
second. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, you can hear that. Then it's your real quiet, but
Speaker 1 56:22
episode 1411 if you're on a GLP, you go listen to Dr Hamdy and heed his advice. Okay, okay, but I'm at that spot too, where psychologically and physically I've had such a change. I feel amazing right now, and it's hard, just like it was hard when I was overweight. I was living my life like I thought I'm good, and now I think I'm good, but Dr hamdy's advice was, you're not good. You need muscle training, and you need to take in enough protein. I'm doing the same thing right now that you do that. Other people do that. I was listening to an episode today with Ryan called blinded by the light that he did, I don't feel sick, so I'm not doing the things that I need to do all the time that's not healthy, and that's not how it works, because you don't want to wait. I mean, obviously I'm not saying obvious common sense theft. You don't want to wait until you're sick to do something like, now's the time, right? So I'm going to tell you, between you and I, like you and I both need to be doing the same things right now. We need to be making sure we're eating plenty of chicken, lean beef and and using a protein powder if that's not working, if we're not getting enough protein every day that way. And we need to be lifting heavy things, doing body weight squats, at the very least, like training our muscles to be stronger. And that's the way Lori, that's the way you end up being 85 and dying like a proper lady, okay? And me too, by the way, like, that's how I get to that too. Maybe
Lori 57:50
I will be one to unleash knowledge like that for others. But my husband, who's the type one, will will have to do a loop episode for you. He's now got a website. Thing he's trying to do to kind of chronicle his struggles and successes with diabetes. And he's got a site going called diabetes unleashed.com,
Speaker 1 58:15
I hope he, I hope he is able to reach people and help them. That's awesome.
Lori 58:18
That's, that's what he wants to do. Yeah, listen,
Speaker 1 58:21
Lori, between you and I, it ain't easy. Okay, Scott's out here like I'm throwing with both hands trying to keep this thing going. You know what? I mean, it's a lot of work,
Lori 58:29
I know, but I've not listened to nearly all of the episodes, but I know that we've listened to so many of them over time, and I know that I am so amazed at what a great dad, what a great seeing you learn and be able to manage this with her is just it's just inspired me like crazy.
Speaker 1 58:53
I'm glad awesome anything that happens from me that makes you feel better or healthier, you know, less sad or whatever it does for you. I think that's, that's my goal at this point. You know what I mean? Like, when, when I first started doing this, I was just like, oh, I'll just, you know, tell people what we do, and hopefully it'll help them. And then when you see it, it builds so much and helps so many people. You just like, you get up every day and you think, like, Oh, I wonder how I could reach more people today and help them understand how to do something or absolutely, yeah, I mentioned Ryan a second ago in an episode that just came out in like, the 1400s might be around 1415 I got a note yesterday. Hey, this episode with Ryan is awesome. Ryan was awesome. You were awesome. You saved him. Like, that's the note I got, and I thought I saved him. I was like, what are they even talking about now, I had only recorded this episode with Ryan a few weeks ago, and I didn't know what they were talking about, because, like, this conversation, like, even the one you and I are having right now, I swear to you, if you come get me an hour from now and go, What did you and Lori talk about? I'm gonna be like, oh, you know what? She was overweight and she had type two and her family. Like, I'll start to forget it pretty quickly. I'm gonna record again in a couple of hours. I'm gonna record again tomorrow, the next day. Gets out of my head pretty quickly. Right this morning, I, on purpose, put on headphones and I listened to my own podcast. I listened to me talk to Ryan, and I'm, I'm not even all the way through it yet, and as I got through it, I really did have this moment where I thought, wow, I I really saved him, yeah. Moreover, the guy who told him to listen to the podcast saved him. And I sent a note to that guy, and I said to him, Hey, man, you saved Ryan. That's all. I just said, almost it's awesome. And I'm sure he'll email me back and be like, Oh no, you did. And like, and we'll do this little thing together. But the truth is, is that that guy, at some point, made a decision to be a diabetes educator. He made a decision to like at some point listen to the podcast. He realized it was valuable for people. He shared it with Ryan, and Ryan went from a guy who'd had multiple eye surgeries because of retinopathy, and then you should hear a story in a long, you know, life of not doing well, to being where he is now, which is awesome. I think of you the same way good for you doing all this stuff and going out in the world and finding information and trying to help yourself.
Lori 1:01:07
It really honestly, my husband was the one that was listening to this podcast, listening to you before I even was aware of it. He told me about it, and we both started listening to it, and then we went to this take control of your diabetes conference in downtown St Louis, and this is where I heard this endocrinologist guy speak. And I said, we've got to go see this guy, because the endocrinologist that my husband was was I just not good. I wanted to strangle the guy, right? I wanted to strangle him, but this endocrinologist is i Oh, man.
Speaker 1 1:01:51
Lori, in the end, you need good direction. You need good coaching. You need good ideas. You need a way to implement them. Need Somebody along the way to help you out and to pat you on the butt until you're doing a great job, keep going. That's it. It's just not that hard, like there's not that much to it. The problem is finding somebody who will dedicate themselves to saying these things over and over again. Listen, I said this recently in an episode, so I won't belabor it here, but my son asked me about, you know, the podcast, and you know how it's been going for so long, and, you know? And I told him, because this is I've been doing this, like, 11 years, it is very difficult to, like, keep something like this going this long. You just ask anybody who's trying Okay, and what I've dedicated myself to is the thing that I'm good at, that I know the podcast does that works, and I don't get up in the morning and act like, oh, no, this is boring. I don't want to do this again. Like, I do this because it works and it helps people. And I don't sit here saying to myself, like, oh, I should be doing something different, or I should be doing something bigger, or I should I don't think that. I think I found a thing that I like doing that helps people and I'm good at it, like, I'm gonna stay here and do this thing, but that's just not how things are set up. Everybody's always looking to move on or move up. And I understand. I'm not telling them they shouldn't, but because the system works that way, people like you don't have an opportunity to meet somebody that'll stay with them for three, 510, years and get them through their this piece, you know,
Lori 1:03:16
yeah, yeah, I can't say how grateful I am to the podcast myself, I might not have responded to what my endocrinologist challenged me with, with the idea of the authentic had I not heard this podcast, I don't think I would have been as brave enough to try it. I'm glad. I think I you know, hearing you say you can't be afraid of this disease. You can't be afraid to be bold with hands when you can't be afraid of this disease, you need to learn how to manage it. Then when my endocrinologist said to me, I don't know if you'll want to try this, but here's what this is and how what it does, and I said, What the hell are we
Scott Benner 1:04:02
waiting for? Yeah, I can be bold about this too, right? Yeah.
Lori 1:04:05
I looked at him straight in the eye, and I said, What the hell have we been waiting for? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Let's get it done.
Speaker 1 1:04:11
I'm 410, I'm 52 years old. I weigh 210 pounds. I think we ought to do something that's me, like, I'm at this point, like, I'm, like, just show me the next thing to try. Like, I'll just do the next thing, and if it works, great, if it doesn't, I'll move on, like I'm not going backwards. Do you know what I mean? Like, I'm just not I'm not going backwards, I'm not giving up, and I'm not acting like Lori that my life is gonna go on forever and I'm never gonna get old and I'm never gonna die, because days and weeks and months passed by very quickly. Yes, they do. Yeah, while I'm out there telling myself it's gonna be okay, this is gonna work out, I'll figure it out. Well, I wasn't figuring it out, and trust me, you weren't either.
Lori 1:04:50
No, I wasn't, and I know that. Yeah, I'm the first one to say I know I was, and that's why I when I found this podcast, and then I found the editor. Chronologists that we have. I think those two pieces were, were two of the best things that's ever happened
Speaker 1 1:05:05
to me. I'm super excited for you, and I'm grateful that you came on here and shared your story and, um, touch that you the of the words you had for me just now. The whole thing is just awesome. I'm so I'm so happy for you. Congratulations. All right. Lori, hold on. One second for me. Okay, give me one second here. Okay, I got it. The dog is biting. What are you You gonna bite at me? Now, hold on, you were so good the whole time. Arden's like, you know, I'm gonna get a puppy. Am i Great? I'll be, I'll be taking care of it. No, no, I'll take care of it. Kind of, what kind of tea? He's a French Bulldog. Oh, and he's very cute. He's colored like, like a doberman. He's got, like, Doberman colors and markings kind of but he's a friend. She's very lovely. Oh, I bet he's a good boy, aren't you? Yeah, we're
Lori 1:05:48
dog lovers too. We have our little 12 pound ball of fur. He's a mutt. He's he's got Yorkie, dachshund and Chihuahua all mixed into one. We got him when he was like eight or nine, and once we took care of getting him six so that he wouldn't be as predisposed to cancer as he's now 16 years old. Oh, wow, they tell us,
Speaker 1 1:06:11
yeah, we just lost our first family dog at 16 this last past summer, Indy. And basal is already over 10, so he's already got a cataract. He's getting so old. My daughter wanted this crunchy, but the honest the truth was they were very expensive, and we had to wait till we could find a breeder who didn't think they were selling gold bars to us to get one. Oh
Lori 1:06:31
yeah, well, yeah, I was gonna say the purebreds. Yeah, that they're gonna be more costly than pure bread. Guess
Speaker 1 1:06:37
what? We just found a guy in the Midwest who was selling them at a reasonable price, and had a service drive them out here. So that's neat. 300 bucks, they drove him across the country. Can you believe
Lori 1:06:48
that? Wow, that's that is awesome. Lori,
Speaker 1 1:06:52
listen what I learned before I let you go. Listen. I want to be clear, when I heard that somebody was going to drive him across the country, I just thought a meth head was going to show up in a Datsun, okay with the dog, and we'd be lucky if it was alive. But instead, a sprinter van shows up, right? It's a very business like scenario. And I said to the guy, I'm like, how many dogs you deliver? And he said, Well, this van took out 25 and I was like, this van? He goes, Yeah, we have two vans. They travel once a week, and so they basically have a business set up with all the breeders in their area. And so now the breeders, because of the internet, sell all over the place. They cluster the dogs together into like routes, and they run two vans a week, 50 dogs a week, $300 a dog. I dare you to do the math. That'll make your head explode. So apparently, all of us that are trying to make money in other ways, like you just you're dumb. You should just bought a van and delivered people puppies and brought them clean and happy, because you could make about $700,000
Lori 1:07:51
a year doing that anyway. Yeah, I wouldn't have anywhere to keep that many dogs to breed like that in a small, two bedroom apartment. So, yeah,
Speaker 1 1:08:03
no, please. I don't understand it people who are breeding animals is that's a lot of work and a lot of space and a lot of time. I don't know how they do it. Oh yeah,
Lori 1:08:10
oh yeah, because of how they how much care they need.
Speaker 1 1:08:14
Oh, my god, yeah. And then, you know, then no wonder people want 1000s and 1000s of dollars for them, because, you know, they've got all this time in it. All right? Lori, I'm gonna let you go because the dog is acting a little funky, and he's upstairs where he's never been before, and I need to take him and let him outside. You want to say anything before we go, Puppy, that's it. That's it. That's all you got for the microphone.
Lori 1:08:35
I was gonna say, is it not gonna do the audio? Chuck impression thing. He just
Speaker 1 1:08:40
licked my face and the microphone. So that's as far as he got. But okay, Lori, hold on one sec. Let me. Let me hit stop here. It's nice talking to you. You were terrific and really, really open and honest, and I sincerely appreciate it. Thank you.
Lori 1:08:54
Well, you're very welcome and and I'm just, I'm honored that I got to do this. Oh,
Scott Benner 1:09:00
I am too make no mistake,
Speaker 1 1:09:07
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