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Anonymous female guest shares 20-year diabetes journey, divorce, and resilience in an honest, powerful, and unforgettable conversation.
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Scott Benner 0:00
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Anonymous Female Speaker 0:13
Hi, I'm I've been type one diabetic for 20 years, diagnosed in 2005 and I am now 36 years old,
Scott Benner 0:22
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Anonymous Female Speaker 2:03
Hi, I'm I've been type one diabetic for 20 years, diagnosed in 2005 and I am now 36
Scott Benner 2:10
years old, right? You diagnosed in 2005 is 2020 so it's 20 years you said that? Yep, I got it. You were like 1516,
Anonymous Female Speaker 2:18
ish, yeah, it was the month before my 16th birthday. Oh, awesome. Sweet 16. Sweet 16. I got a cell phone before all of my siblings did. They got theirs at 16, but because I had diabetes, I got mine at 15. Look at you showing off right away, a whole month early. You know, I just
Scott Benner 2:35
met because your blood sugar was high, it was really a sweet 16. Oh, that true, that that's true. You're like a you're like a Canadian tree up there. I just want to start off by saying, I love that. It says, You guys fill out a little form before you come in. It's not very long, yep. It just says, like, what are some of the themes you hope to cover in your episode? And she says, honestly, I have no idea. Yep,
Anonymous Female Speaker 2:54
absolutely. So no idea. Take the conversation where you will.
Scott Benner 2:59
It'll be fun. Well, we can do that. Other siblings, anybody else in your family, have diabetes?
Anonymous Female Speaker 3:04
No one with type one diabetes, type two diabetes, for my mom and my dad's pre diabetic, but no one else with type one it's just
Scott Benner 3:12
me okay. And you have any other autoimmune issues? I do.
Anonymous Female Speaker 3:14
I have Hashimotos, of course, of course. I mean it, you know, they come in pairs,
Scott Benner 3:19
right? Seem like it comes in a match set sometimes, that's
Anonymous Female Speaker 3:22
right, it does, but that's so far. That's the only other autoimmune Oh,
Scott Benner 3:26
okay, all right, not bad so far. Do you have a feeling like something's coming?
Anonymous Female Speaker 3:30
Don't we always have a feeling that something's coming? At least I do. I'm like, yeah, we'll see what happens down the line. But
Scott Benner 3:37
is that, like, just generalized concern, or do you actually, like, have symptoms of things that make you think something
Anonymous Female Speaker 3:44
might No, no, just general, like, you know, I expect whatever is going to happen is going to happen. I don't focus on it, but I just assume.
Scott Benner 3:52
How was it growing up with type one diabetes, it was,
Anonymous Female Speaker 3:56
you know, difficult at times pretty I had a lot of support. You know, my my mom was there with me the whole time, and my dad was supportive of my mom being there with me the whole time, and he never got into like, the management side, but my mom did, giving me my shots and helping me do all of those things. My sisters were already graduated and out of the house, so they never really lived with me with it, but I did have So ever since I was like, four or five, they thought I had type one diabetes then, and I was actually tested, and they did that whole long glucose tolerance test where they just, you know, give you sugar, check your blood every couple hours. Yeah, they did that when I was four or five, and my mom always got confused, because the results actually came back with me in like, the 250s and three hundreds, but then they told her that I had hypoglycemia, so I had low blood sugar, because I would also just randomly feel like I was going to pass out and need sugar, like, ever since I can remember, oh yeah. So it was, it was really interesting, because I talked to my mom about it recently. I'm like, I. Remember going, that's like, one of my first childhood memories is going to the hospital, getting an IV, because that was terrible, and having my blood drawn every two hours, and that whole thing
Scott Benner 5:10
so but you've really thrown the gauntlet down on me here. You don't realize this, but in your note, you said, I've had a pretty uneventful life, and now I'm like, damn it, something had to happen. We're going to find out. Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, don't worry. I'm not. I'm not giving up. But you know, like, okay, it's not exciting. As a podcaster, when somebody's like, Hey, I don't know. I don't know what I want to come on about. My life's been pretty boring, but I want to figure it out. You're telling me when you're four or five years old, your mom thought you had type one diabetes. What made her think
Anonymous Female Speaker 5:38
that? I honestly don't know. I think it was the low blood sugar attacks that I would have. So like, I'm telling, like, I would just start shaking, that terrible feeling that you have a low blood sugar, just like I get now if I take too much insulin, okay? Except I would tell her, Mommy, I'm wilting. That's how I knew how to say it, because it felt like my whole body was just like, shutting down slowly, yeah, and like, like, a flower just wilting. So I guess she talked to the doctor about it, and they ordered the testing. And
Scott Benner 6:08
glucose tolerance test shows high blood sugars, but they say, Don't worry. She doesn't have type one diabetes. She has what do they call it hypoglycemia? That's all they say, okay, yeah,
Anonymous Female Speaker 6:17
because I think it was probably coming back into normal range pretty quickly, but it was spiking,
Scott Benner 6:23
okay. And now growing up from there, 5678, all those years, does the passing out? What does the wilting keep happening? Yes. Oh yeah,
Anonymous Female Speaker 6:33
yeah. My sisters used to tease me. They would say that I just wanted attention, because I would, you know, I would need, like, a soda or, you know, something with protein, just to They told my mom, get her sugar and then give her some protein to help it stay stabilized, right? So we'd be riding in the car, and I'd look up and I'm like, Mommy, I'm wilting. And so she got to pull into a, you know, Jiffy store and get something real quickly
Scott Benner 6:52
for me. Are you a poet? Now? What? How is five year old? You going with wilting
Anonymous Female Speaker 6:57
to describe? No idea. It's the most ridiculous thing. No, I mean, it's not, but
Scott Benner 7:01
like, Do you have a like, a great grasp of language? Are you wandering around? Oh, no, no, no. All right, so it's a thing you heard one time, and you're like, this applies to how I feel right now, I
Anonymous Female Speaker 7:11
assume. So, yeah, like, it just felt like my whole like, because it would start like, in my hands and my legs, and it would just, like, slowly,
Scott Benner 7:17
like, you know, was there a rhyme or reason to when it happened, not
Anonymous Female Speaker 7:21
that we could figure out, no now we did realize quickly, I guess, like sugary cereals in the morning was not a good thing for me, because it would cause me to go low later in the day.
Scott Benner 7:33
So if you taxed your system, it overreacted,
Anonymous Female Speaker 7:37
correct? Yeah. Okay, yep. So we just tried to avoid that. My poor mom had to get up and make, you know, whole breakfast, breakfast in the morning. Was she not up for that? No, she was. She was great. Okay, I feel bad for her now, because I don't do that for my kids. Like,
Scott Benner 7:51
listen, whatever's
Anonymous Female Speaker 7:53
that freezer was like,
Scott Benner 7:53
stellar. How many sisters? Two sisters? Any brothers? No, no, just those wicked sisters that would not believe you that you didn't feel well. Were you the youngest?
Anonymous Female Speaker 8:03
Yeah, I was, yep. Gotcha. I'm the youngest. Do you
Scott Benner 8:07
remind them now how they mocked you even though you had an illness?
Anonymous Female Speaker 8:10
Oh, for sure. Oh yeah. We talk about it. They still joke and tease. Like, oh, you just, I think sometimes you just wanted the attention. I was like, I don't know. I don't
Scott Benner 8:18
remember that. Do you have like, a 40 year old sister now who goes, Oh, she's wealthing. Does that still come up pretty
Anonymous Female Speaker 8:24
much, yeah, yeah. We still, we'll joke about it at like, holidays and such fun family.
Scott Benner 8:29
Yeah, so much fun. But have they ever like, apologized, like a sincere like, Hey, I'm sorry we did that. Not that
Anonymous Female Speaker 8:37
I can think of, but I mean, they're not like, the way that we tease about it now is clear that they're like, Oh yeah, I guess we probably should have believed you, but not like, a sincere like, Hey, I'm really sorry that that, but we did that. No,
Scott Benner 8:49
yeah, I want to be clear. Like, I don't think it's such a big deal. But I just interviewed somebody last week who was diagnosed as an adult with type one after having grown up their whole life with a sister I type one, ah, she describes that, you know, she's sorry for sorry, such a weird word, but like, she's sorry for not fully understanding better what her sister was going through while they were growing up. Because she didn't, she minimized that. She thought,
Anonymous Female Speaker 9:15
yeah, I could see that, yeah, and I've always, I mean, I share with them some different things, like, when I've had a win or success, you know, I share my a one CS and, like, the group chat and stuff like that, one of my sisters will say, like, I never know what it really means, but I'm really proud of you, because it's clear that you're working hard at this, and it's not easy. She
Scott Benner 9:33
don't have Google. Is she good? You know, busy
Anonymous Female Speaker 9:38
with kids and life and all the things. So because, like I said, they've never lived with me with it, so they don't see the day in, the day out
Scott Benner 9:45
stuff. I would probably send a full report back in that text chat that explained day one season. I'd be like, Listen, if you love me, you'll study this and
Anonymous Female Speaker 9:52
figure out what this means. You will know what this is here. Listen to this podcast. Feel
Scott Benner 9:56
free to send over something about you that you'd like me to know. There you go. Happy to look into it. That's right, my brothers and I have a chat too. Yeah, yeah. It's nice.
Anonymous Female Speaker 10:06
Sisters and my mom, we all are
Scott Benner 10:07
you let your mom in. Oh, yeah, nice, yep. How old was your mom?
Anonymous Female Speaker 10:11
Oh, gosh, she was born in 63 How old does that
Scott Benner 10:15
make her? It makes her eight years older than me. So she's 61 maybe that sounds about right, yeah, that's weird that you don't know
Anonymous Female Speaker 10:26
I can remember their birth years. But like, keeping up with how old I am is hard, so that I understand I have to think about it. So keeping up with how old everyone else is,
Scott Benner 10:36
you're okay with this. Okay. So you are, like, wilting through your life, yep. So when you get type one diabetes, you must be super excited. Like, seriously, look, there's actually something wrong with
Anonymous Female Speaker 10:46
me, right? So excited, yeah, no, not quite, but no, it did kind of explain it, you know, it was like, oh, so maybe, maybe there was, this was happening this whole time, and this is why, you know,
Scott Benner 10:57
can you tell me what the run up to your type one looked like? Sure. So
Anonymous Female Speaker 11:01
I've always, I've always, I used to be a very skinny individual, like, always super thin, like, very, very thin. But right before my diagnosis, I really started to lose weight. I was five seven, and I think I weighed 67 pounds when I was diagnosed, which is very, very small and but it didn't seem like it was that crazy. I've always been small. I've always been tiny. But then the extreme thirst started, and I actually had a yeast infection that would not go away. And I finally went to my mom and like, I don't know what to do about this. We tried treating it at home. Didn't happen. Wasn't helping. Went to my first GYN appointment, and they dipped the urine, and I had ketones like crazy. So my OB, GYN actually diagnosed me, sent me for blood work, and came back that I was type one.
Scott Benner 11:53
Wow, that's pretty simple, yeah, yeah. And actually, your life is uneventful,
Anonymous Female Speaker 11:59
hey. Well, I mean, as far as diabetes goes, it has been unemplo, yes, yeah,
Scott Benner 12:06
but yeah. I mean, seriously though, right? Like, your mom's very involved, right? So did you guys figure it out? And, like, just get on your way. And what was management like? Yeah.
Anonymous Female Speaker 12:14
So I found out on a Monday, went to the hospital, did the whole week stay. They did the whole training. Here's how to coward count. Here's your insulin. Make sure you Pre Bolus. Make sure you do this and do that. And then we were just kind of on our way. I remember leaving, leaving the hospital, going straight to the mall. My mom bought me, like, a backpack purse, because she's like, you're gonna have a lot of stuff to carry around. Let's get you a new purse. Let's make this, you know, she was trying to make it exciting and, like, here's a consolation prize. Let's, you know, go shopping for a little while. And yeah, we got set up at home and started weighing food and counting carbs. And when she was there, she would, she would give me my shots, which was great, because I was still terrified of needles, like hand shaking every time I would give a shot, even pricking my finger was the same way, but overcame all that clearly. But
Scott Benner 13:07
yeah, all right, that's it. Do you needles the thing? And when did you get a CGM for the first time?
Anonymous Female Speaker 13:12
Oh, I did not get a CGM. So I think I got a CGM two years ago. So I tried to do a CGM when I was pregnant with my first I was talked into the Medtronic pump with the, you know, CGM. It talks to it. It suspends your insulin whenever you're low. But it was like, Oh, you have to calibrate it two hours before you eat, two hours after you eat, you can't, you know, if it's in this period you can't eat, then you have to do this and do that. And I could not keep up with it. It was the most frustrating thing screaming at me all night long because something was wrong or it thought I was low, but I wasn't. So I kind of swore them off because of that. And that was in 2014 I was like, I will never again deal with
Scott Benner 13:51
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Anonymous Female Speaker 16:25
You know, I've been a creature of habit for a long time. You get comfy with one thing. I mean, I even moved my little Lancet device from one meter to the next one because I was like, No, it's working, and I like it and it doesn't hurt. And I'm going to keep using the same Lansing device because I don't trust the new which sounds crazy.
Scott Benner 16:42
I like how you, as you said it out loud, you're like, oh yeah, that's weird. I know
Anonymous Female Speaker 16:47
it's crazy. And I knew that then too. But like, I was like, No, I know what I like. I know what I want to use. I don't want to, you know, step out too, too far from my comfort zone.
Scott Benner 16:57
If I want to be completely honest with you, Arden had multi clicks the lance. And it's, it was awesome. I don't know why they discontinued it. It was so awesome. And then they moved to what the multi clicks, and it's fine, but, man, the first one was awesome. Like, if they went back to that design, I think everybody would be thrilled here.
Anonymous Female Speaker 17:21
Yeah, there's just, you know, you get comfy with, like, if you're gonna have to do something that you don't really want to do, at least do it with something that you're comfortable with. So that was kind of my thing.
Scott Benner 17:30
All right, so poor Medtronic gets out early and tries to figure all this out. For all you all, it doesn't go awesome the first time around, and you're like, that said, I'll never wear a pump or a CGM again?
Anonymous Female Speaker 17:41
Well, no, I kept the pump. I've I've done pumping for years upon years,
Scott Benner 17:46
so you just hated the CGM that badly, right? It was the CGM that I was like, No, thank you. Okay, okay, yeah. How long do you use a Medtronic pump for? Maybe you still do. I
Anonymous Female Speaker 17:55
don't. Now, I'm actually using the Omnipod five with the Dexcom g6 which I love. I do love my CGM now, awesome Medtronic I used for, well, from 2014 until, what 2023 I guess, okay. And before that, it was like the Animus pump. Ping, animus ping, yeah, it was like purplish or something, see through. So
Scott Benner 18:20
you use the Medtronic pump for nine years. What makes you switch to the
Anonymous Female Speaker 18:23
Omnipod? You will love this. It was your podcast. Oh, sorry, I didn't
Scott Benner 18:27
I it's not what I was leaning towards. Actually, I thought maybe, I honestly thought maybe you were like, well, let me get back to a CGM. But no, you went, would you go to dash first?
Anonymous Female Speaker 18:34
No, no, I waited till the Omnipod five came out. Okay, whenever that was maybe that wasn't even 2023 I don't know. But when did
Scott Benner 18:42
you get it? Did you get it in your head then, like, I'm gonna try automation again? Oh,
Anonymous Female Speaker 18:46
I don't. Just before I went and just did it, I don't know it was, do you remember why I really liked the idea of overnights, not having to worry about overnights, because I always had some lows overnight or the fear of lows. So it was like, Oh, well, if this will protect me overnight, and it actually works. And I see that the CGM actually works because I got that first, then I can trust it to actually suspend insulin and do all of that
Scott Benner 19:11
overnight. I see, okay, and what's your experience been now? Using a more modern system,
Anonymous Female Speaker 19:17
it's been great. I love it. I also love that it's tubeless. I got really tired of trying to find places to hide my pump, you know, hiding it in your bra and wearing Spanx and sewing a pocket to it so you can hide it under a dress. Not super fun, yeah, but it's been great. I mean, I use it and I keep it in auto mode all the time. I don't I've never switched it out of auto mode unless I absolutely have to, so, yeah, it's been great.
Scott Benner 19:42
I just laughed a little under my breath, and I realized people might have heard it, so I'm going to explain myself, because it was an completely inappropriate place to laugh, like you're explaining your in some bubbles. I'm like, but I actually found myself wondering two things, like, first of all, like, how frustrating it must be to find yourself safe. Down on a Saturday, sewing pockets into the backsides of clothing to stick your pump in correct. Yes. Like, you must be like, I have so little free time. I can't believe this is what I'm doing with it, absolutely right? The other thing I thought was like, like, I don't have this experience. I started wondering about Arden, right? Like, you know, you sometimes you just replace things to replace them. Do you ever do that? Like, you're just like, I've been staring at this thing for 10 years, like, I'm gonna get a purple one now, or I'm gonna get, like, you know, a square instead of a circle. Or I don't even know what I'm talking about, but like, you know, eventually you just are, like, you get sick of things. I wonder if that happens to people's pumps, where they're just like, this thing's been around too long. I'm gonna change, just the change. Or if once you find the functionality to be so valuable, you live through that part. I don't know what I'm saying exactly like. I wonder if, once you find one that works that you like, does it just melt into the background, or does it feel like a old remote control to a television eventually that you're just like, let's throw this out and get a new one. Does that make sense?
Anonymous Female Speaker 21:01
Yeah, I think so. And I think it does kind of just melt into the background, like it just becomes the norm. Like, I don't think about it anymore. I just order the supplies and go, Okay, you know, I'm not thinking about wonder what else is out there. I wonder what else I should be doing, necessarily, like, it's just, this is life. This is what I do. Let's just keep going. And when you have 17 million children and a full time job and employees and all that, it's, you know, yeah, time to think about
Scott Benner 21:28
that. If you would have been born, I don't know, 20 years later, and gotten diabetes, and on day one, someone would have given you, like, the new 780 G Medtronic pump and their new CGM, which I think is like, almost here, like in America, but like, you know, basically looks like every other CGM now, and it worked fine. You weren't, like, calibrating in the middle of the night and all the problems that you had with the first one. Do you think that 10 years later, you just would have been like, Oh, this is fine. I'll just keep doing
Anonymous Female Speaker 21:54
this. Possibly. Yes, I do think that as I've gotten older and I'm more comfortable making these decisions to change things too. Okay, so Well, I have more money now. Like, I can think about, like, getting a new system because I don't have to pay for it, or I have good insurance, and I can afford to do that. Like, those are things that would have kept me on a different system in the past, right? Like, I've got a six month back supply. I did have, like, a two or three year back supply of sets, yeah, sets and, you know, all of that kind of stuff that it was hard to just get rid of that, you know, I see, so you just kind of get stuck in that, because this is what I do, and this is what I have, and it costs a lot of money to switch it could Yeah, but now it's like, well, I can do
Scott Benner 22:38
that now. Is the tubeless nature of the Omnipod. Is it that big of a draw? Yes, it is. That's what it is. Okay, yeah,
Anonymous Female Speaker 22:46
because I've even, I mean, I don't think that the algorithm. I would love to try another algorithm and just see how it works, because there are some limitations with it. It doesn't have the none of them learned. But what am I trying to say it doesn't have the has the correction through the basal, right? So it increases your basal, it doesn't give you actual boluses, yeah? You wish
Scott Benner 23:09
it was more aggressive on higher blood sugars, yeah, yeah. But the two, the tubeless part overcomes that for you. It does, yeah, in a world where nothing's perfect, and you're doing a pros and cons list, that tubeless thing really carries some weight.
Anonymous Female Speaker 23:23
Absolutely, for me, it does after being hooked to a tube for what felt like a million years. Yeah, it's nice to
Scott Benner 23:29
not have that. Does it feel like you've had diabetes forever? It does, yeah. Does that make you any feel any sort of way? No, no, not frustrated or irritated, annoyed, like you've just given up. What's that word when you give up? Like, that burnout feeling, I don't know, like a malaise, almost like, Oh no. I think
Anonymous Female Speaker 23:50
it kind of ebbs and flows, like throughout the years, like there have been, definitely been years where I've been overwhelmed by it and just over it, and I don't want to do this anymore, and I'm gonna take my insulin, but I'm not really gonna care that much about it, watch what it's doing, or check my blood sugar, or any of that thing. But I don't feel that way necessarily now, like I feel like I have really good control. I know what I need to do. I always anticipate that every like five or 10 years now, or every two or three years, I'm gonna have a feeling of like, wow, I wish I didn't have to do this anymore, because I think it comes with the nature of it, like, it's hard, it's every day, it's non
Scott Benner 24:27
stop, and once in a while that bubbles to the surface. It does,
Anonymous Female Speaker 24:31
yeah, for sure. Like, when you're fighting a low blood sugar all day long, or a high blood sugar all day long, and you get home and you're just like, I'm done. Like, I don't want to do this anymore. I'm in a bad mood. I don't want to do this anymore.
Scott Benner 24:42
Yeah, I never not do it. You have to have you had other human experiences that people without type one diabetes understand, that would mimic that feeling, like having diarrheal die or something like, sorry. I don't know why that came up to my head, but sounds terrible. Yeah, no, no, but I'm saying like, is there another. Physical, something that could happen through your health, that could impact you for an entire day, that give you that same feeling like, what else has happened to you, that gives you that feeling of like being a low all day? Is there anything that matches it?
Anonymous Female Speaker 25:11
I don't think so. No, not that I have found no. I think it mostly is just that it's it's the diabetes, because it is a twenty, four, seven, mental game in your head that you're playing, yeah, and even when you're not having to think about it hard, you're still having to think about it. Every day, when I wake up, I'm thinking, okay, when am I going to eat lunch today? What meetings do I have? What time can I order? What do I need to do to be able to be prepared for that? And you know, you're you're constantly calculating
Scott Benner 25:41
even this recording with me this morning, you you prepped in some way for this? Yes, absolutely. And that doesn't melt into the background. Oh, it does. But then once in a while, it becomes present. Yes, and then how does that manifest? Is it sadness, or how do you feel? I
Anonymous Female Speaker 25:59
think it's mostly overwhelm. I mean, you just feel that overwhelm all of a sudden, like and some sadness, because no one, no one I know, has it. I mean, I know people who are type one, but no one in my close family knows what I go through every day.
Scott Benner 26:14
Would you let them listen to this? Yeah. Do you think there'll be a moment in your text chat with your sisters you'll be like, Hey, if you want to understand me my diabetes better, I was on this podcast,
Anonymous Female Speaker 26:23
possibly, oh, my mom knows. My mom knows I've already told her. And of course, my husband knows, but, and he's been great through it all. I mean, he's there. And, you know, the kids even help me. If I'm have a low blood sugar, they all know to run and go get Mom something, right? They're there to help now, which is great, but that still doesn't take that burden off of me. I'm still the one dealing with it. Yeah, every day.
Scott Benner 26:46
No. I mean, it's nice that people care about you, but that, in all honesty, that doesn't impact the things that we're talking about here, right? Yeah, yeah. Is there anything that could, I mean, short of it just disappearing? I don't think so. No, I don't. I mean, what could someone do? I don't know. So I just ask people questions. I'm imagining one day they'll say something, and I'll be like, Oh, that's a good idea. We should all do that. There you go. Hey, you're not a depressed person by nature. Oh gosh, no, no, you're not.
Anonymous Female Speaker 27:16
I can tell I've never, never dealt with depression, anxiety, anything like
Scott Benner 27:20
that, nothing like that. So it's not piling up in other places on you. No, no, gotcha.
Anonymous Female Speaker 27:25
It's just every once in a while you feel that OOF again,
Scott Benner 27:29
today, like this happening, yeah, yeah, yeah. And today it's going to be worse, right? On days when you feel okay about it, when it's not bubbled to the surface, does it bother you when you have to make those adjustments and plans like you described, or is it just happened and it feels like you're not aware of it?
Anonymous Female Speaker 27:48
Oh, no, it just happens. Okay, for the most part, my diabetes is like, just in the passenger seat. It's not like it's controlling and driving the car and all of that. It's just it's always
Scott Benner 27:59
there. But when the times when it comes up and it is there with you. It's not in the passenger seat anymore. It's sitting in your lap for some reason and holding his hand over your eyes while you're driving. Now, every decision feels like a slog.
Anonymous Female Speaker 28:10
It can Yeah, and it can feel just like, are you making the right decision? Am I treating it the right way? Is this the right one? Is this where I need more insulin? Those types of things can happen. Am I over treating this because I'm just frustrated with it and I want to just kill it, like, get this high blood sugar down?
Scott Benner 28:28
Yes. So the act of diabetes is judging you constantly. Did I do it right? Is this right? Am I making the right decision? You're being judged, possibly, yeah, yeah, yeah. You've never been to therapy, huh? Now I can tell you were like, I don't know. I haven't really thought about it that deeply. No,
Anonymous Female Speaker 28:46
I prefer not to.
Scott Benner 28:48
No, do you think you're hiding something, or do you think you're generally happy? Oh, I think I'm genuinely happy. Okay, all right, yeah, I don't disagree with you. I'm just asking questions. Yeah, I am very happy. You are either of these boys you've been married to do anything good or bad that was valuable around diabetes.
Anonymous Female Speaker 29:08
Oh, so. So my ex husband, his brother, is type one, actually. So my brother in law? Yeah, ex brother in law, I guess you should say he had type one, and he was diagnosed similar time to me, but I never knew him. I've met him now, but I didn't know him growing up. So he had some ideas of what it kind of looks like or doesn't look like, like it was never a big deal for him,
Scott Benner 29:36
ever. Oh, so he didn't think twice about you having type one because his brother had it correct, but he has about the same loose understanding of it as your sister, who's like, I don't know what you're talking about, but good on you
Anonymous Female Speaker 29:46
correct, because he was already out of the house by the time his brother was diagnosed.
Scott Benner 29:50
Gotcha? Do you think that helped him accept you
Anonymous Female Speaker 29:55
as a type one? Possibly because he never saw it as a big deal, right? Yeah, which was was good and bad,
Scott Benner 30:02
because he also didn't know to appreciate what it what it really is. Correct? Got it? Yeah? And then this is not part of why. I'm assuming you left him. Yes, I did. Yeah. I'm just saying, I'm just assuming, because guys, generally speaking, they're like, I don't think anything's
Anonymous Female Speaker 30:17
bad. This is all right, uh huh. So that's where the fun parts of the stories come in. No, did
Scott Benner 30:21
anything about your diabetes have anything to do with your divorce? No, no,
Anonymous Female Speaker 30:25
okay, no, no, he just doesn't. He didn't know how to be faithful.
Scott Benner 30:29
Oh, that'll definitely slow it down, yeah, even while
Anonymous Female Speaker 30:33
actively pursuing having a second child. And then you find out you're pregnant, and then you find out that your husband was not faithful.
Scott Benner 30:39
Is he super handsome? No, really interesting. You know, if I was super handsome, like, let me here yesterday, I'm outside. I told you this before we started recording, but I'm outside. I'm cutting the lawn, right? I come back in, and I am just like, I'm hot, and there's like, grass stuck to my face. I come in, everyone's just chilling out. I'm like, you know, I'm like, All right, that's fine. I'm over that. By the way, I've been married and I've had kids for so long, I don't even expect anybody to help me. It's fine. And so, like, I come back in the house, and Arden goes, Hey, two questions. And I go, okay, she goes, would you ever go to a nude beach? And I'm like, what? And she goes, a nude beach. Would you go to a nude beach? And I said, No, I don't think so. And she goes, why not? I said. I said, I'm older. I'm not in terrific shape. I was like, if I was in great shape, then sure, I probably would go, Sure. And right. And she goes, great shape. And I then I said, them stupid. I was like, Yeah, you like John Cena. And she goes, John Cena. And I was like, I don't know where that came from. I've only ever seen I don't watch wrestling. Yeah, I've seen John Cena in one thing. It's like a TV show. I think it only had six episodes. I don't know John Cena. I don't like. I'm like, so while they're now making fun of me about my John Cena swing, I'm like, I'm also making fun of myself. I'm like, where the did that come from? I said, Look, just a person in like, tip top shape. I said, if someone is in tip top shape, I think I would go to a new beach. I would have any trouble with it. Arden goes, would you take your clothes off? And I went, Wait, I thought that was the question exactly, what else do you do? And I was like, I was like, wait, I'm like, What are you asking me? She's like, like, if she's like, say you went on vacation and there was only nude beaches. You didn't realize that, but you didn't have to be nude on the beach. Would you go? And I went, Oh yeah,
Anonymous Female Speaker 32:21
that's a totally different question. It was
Scott Benner 32:25
like, You're not I said, Oh yeah. I was like, no, no, no, I have no trouble that long. And that's why I asked the question about your house, because I can imagine, like, if I was super handsome and not, like, a lockdown rock solid guy, and women were constantly like, Hey, man, I might be like, Yo, what's up? Like, I don't know like, but I don't have that problem, because women are throwing themselves at me. So
Anonymous Female Speaker 32:47
I don't know where he finds his opportunities, but he clearly had
Scott Benner 32:52
them. So listen, I want to make you feel better. I'm not going to use a name, but I, for a long time, have had a friend who is God, I'm so sorry. This is one of those moments when I say you probably shouldn't have a podcast unless you're going to be honest, and if you're going to be honest, you should probably be ready to feel bad about having a podcast. But not an attractive guy, uh huh, not in great shape, not athletic, good personality, funny, not money. No, no money. Yep. I don't know how the kids would talk about it now, but between you and me and I'm going to tell you right now, Rob, get ready to edit throws at him left and right. It never stops. Yeah, if that kid's awake, he's fcking Do you understand what I'm saying? And it's a different person all the time. And I don't know how it's him,
Anonymous Female Speaker 33:50
yeah, I feel that that's very similar. No kidding, for some reason I don't know why. The only thing I can think is like that charismatic, outgoing attitude, and like attracts
Scott Benner 34:00
women. It does yeah enough to take their pants off. Apparently, when he's married, yeah, and they know he's married. Uh huh. Hold on a second horse there. I just said it for you. Thank you. Appreciate that. Thank you, by the way, yeah, and if, if you're currently female and cheating with a married guy, but you're listening to the podcast, I don't think you're a whore. I want you to keep listening. Please don't get upset. Yeah, only, only the specific, yeah, we're talking about the girls who ruined marriage. No one else.
Anonymous Female Speaker 34:29
That's right. But you know, it wasn't great anyway. Like, there were other things we shouldn't have been together. Oh, okay, all right. I mean, there were, there were other, you know, things that I was willing to put up with and get passed and we worked on and, you know,
Scott Benner 34:43
nice and you're very accepting of all this. Yeah, you're not mad.
Anonymous Female Speaker 34:49
No, no, I'm really happy where I am now, which I think makes it really easy to not hold resentment.
Scott Benner 34:56
Okay, were you more resentful previously? Even then,
Anonymous Female Speaker 34:59
I feel like. Was just like, oh, I have a reason to leave.
Scott Benner 35:03
That's horrible. I hope he doesn't hear this, but you were
Anonymous Female Speaker 35:06
just, I don't think I would send anything. I haven't told him before. I was very, I was actually very, not very pregnant. Let's see, I was four or five months pregnant. I was
Scott Benner 35:16
pretty pregnant. He knocked you up while he was cheating on you. Yes, oh yeah, dude, that's tough. You know, he's listening, by the way, that's
Anonymous Female Speaker 35:22
Oh, yeah, oh. He'll tell me now, and he knows he sees it, and he's tried to be better. He's a great dad too, like he really is. I'll give him that. Well, he's charismatic. He's very charismatic. Loves those kids, does anything and everything for them. Does
Scott Benner 35:36
he have other kids spread around the globe? Not that
Anonymous Female Speaker 35:39
we know of. They were smart and didn't tell him, probably, no, I'm just kidding. That's terrible to say. No,
Scott Benner 35:45
he's with someone now and they're happy. Oh no, no, oh, oh, okay, oh no, that was your, your ex's your husband's ex. I I'm sorry. Okay, okay, no, yeah, he's in an apartment playing Playstation right now.
Anonymous Female Speaker 35:57
Maybe I gotcha. Okay, yeah, all right, yeah, watching sports, doing something,
Scott Benner 36:01
did the conga line of boobies keep up for him, or did it stop? I don't know. I don't know. I'm sorry. I wish, first of all, I wish you know, because I know, I'm trying to figure out if part of the allure was sleeping with a married guy.
Anonymous Female Speaker 36:17
I don't know. I think, to be completely honest, now I'm never gonna let my kids listen to this, because they don't know anything about this. Anything about this for their dad, really, that's interesting. Good, yeah, we don't talk bad about each other ever around the kids. Nice. That's that's a rule. We don't do that. They think we're best friends still. So,
Scott Benner 36:32
oh yeah, yeah, it's all good for
Anonymous Female Speaker 36:34
him. One partner is always married to start. It seems like when he gets with somebody.
Scott Benner 36:40
Oh, he goes after married ladies that are also unhappy,
Anonymous Female Speaker 36:44
correct? It seems, it would seem to me, now, again, I am removed from that. Now I don't follow trying to figure out what he's doing. I just take care of my kids, make sure whoever's around them is nice. There's only been one other lady around them that I know of, yeah.
Scott Benner 37:01
So during this time since we've now decided your kids can't listen to this while he's cheating, were you still sharing your lady fun with him? You were right, yeah, because we were trying to get pregnant. Okay, so he wasn't like, by the way, also, I'm not saying this is a reason to cheat, but I'm saying, like, he wasn't like, Oh God, I haven't had sex in so long. Like, I'll go, like, find an unhappy married girl who won't tell anybody, because she's married too, because that's got to be the Lord there, I would imagine,
Anonymous Female Speaker 37:27
oh, I'm sure, yeah, no, no, there was none of that. Like the
Scott Benner 37:31
mutually insured destruction thing probably keeps everybody keeps their mouth shut,
Anonymous Female Speaker 37:36
exactly, but her husband found out and came and told me, so, you know,
Scott Benner 37:41
Oh, her husband came to you while you were pregnant.
Anonymous Female Speaker 37:46
Yeah, yeah, knocked on my front door during nap time for my oldest,
Scott Benner 37:50
and did he look disturbed when he saw you were pregnant?
Anonymous Female Speaker 37:54
Well, you couldn't tell yet, because I was only, like, nine or 10 weeks pregnant. We had just announced I
Scott Benner 37:59
gotcha okay. We had just announced it was just in the paper.
Anonymous Female Speaker 38:02
It was just it was just made aware to everybody else. Was he
Scott Benner 38:06
angry or devastated? He was
Anonymous Female Speaker 38:09
angry. Apparently they had a rocky, crazy, weird, cheat on each other kind of relationship, it seems, from what I understood. So then he was just ready to take my husband's world and rock his world too. Like here, your wife should know. Let's make sure I'm not the only one who knows. So
Scott Benner 38:26
nothing super special, just the type one for 20 years with a pretty uneventful life.
Anonymous Female Speaker 38:32
Type one uneventful. I didn't say my whole life was uneventful, did
Scott Benner 38:36
I? I just want you to know that if you didn't write that I wouldn't even know you were divorced. So you were just like, find something. And I was like, I will. Don't worry.
Anonymous Female Speaker 38:48
I will. Yeah, well, that's what I kind of counted on, because I didn't want to dictate where it goes and what you I don't know it's
Scott Benner 38:54
kind of funny attacks and me, I see it's fine,
Anonymous Female Speaker 38:56
really. I really enjoy when you dig and find things on the podcast.
Scott Benner 39:00
So I didn't know this was a test. Am I supposed to put it
Anonymous Female Speaker 39:03
in the note? Like, definitely ask me about honestly, I hate
Scott Benner 39:07
that the notes there even, yeah. But you know, there's you uptight people who have been on the podcast, like, what, what are we gonna talk so I just, I think that just lets them out of it by they get to talk and say what they're gonna talk about. And by the way, some people who are really structured with their thinking, like today's episode, which is called phantom hemorrhoid, in case you're wondering what they recorded part of it. Yes, I love how structured her storytelling is. Yes, like, she really, like I told her during the episode, she takes a two month span in her life and breaks it down so granularly. Yes, it's so super interesting that way, but, but Okay, all right, so we figured all this out. I'm back at the door. He's standing Do you invite Him in? No, no, he stands at the door. Yeah. Do you tell him you're pregnant?
Anonymous Female Speaker 39:53
No, he already knew, because we had announced and apparently
Scott Benner 39:57
you all knew each
Anonymous Female Speaker 39:58
other. Oh, yes, I've. God, gosh, I forgot to put that part in there. Yeah.
Scott Benner 40:03
So does your ex not know the phrase, don't worry.
Anonymous Female Speaker 40:09
She worked with him at his place of employment, and we actually helped her and her husband move into their house, which was like three blocks away from us. Oh,
Scott Benner 40:20
my God, how
Anonymous Female Speaker 40:21
two weekends
Scott Benner 40:22
before two weekends you were helping that move into her house while she was in your husband, yeah. Oh my Rob. Keep editing, Buddy, keep going. No kidding. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Do you think she was laughing at you? Oh, I would have murdered her. Oh, I
Anonymous Female Speaker 40:38
think I think she was probably at the time, but she also I wondered why she looked so almost concerned during and like she wouldn't talk to me, like she would not have any conversation. She was
Scott Benner 40:50
nervous. She was nervous. It sounds like your dumb ass. Husband's idea. Never mind, right? Yeah, I got it so, ex husband, sorry, yeah. Ex husband, you know, I was at a funeral this weekend. This is going to be a weird pivot. I just made myself laugh because I'm so stupid. I was at a funeral this weekend. The man who died, he's older, and by the way, shout out to him, man, he fought cancer for 12 years, or valiant dude and his son who died in his 30s, which is crazy enough, of like, a medical issue. Was divorced, but they have grandchildren, so he's got grandchildren anyway. The mom shows up. Obviously, her daughter's grandfather's dead. She's coming, you know what I mean, like, obviously, but they don't really know each other anymore. It's been, you know, split up a long time and, um. And I said to her, your father in law. And she paused and said, ex father in law. And I said, Is that a thing we have to do now that he's dead? The whole like, I don't know. Like, what was right there threw me off. Like, yeah, like, he didn't fight with her and get divorced. Like, you know what I mean? Like,
Anonymous Female Speaker 41:58
you know what goes through your mind when someone does that is, please don't link me to that person at all. Not the not the father in law. It's her, it's the son the ex. I never want to think of being linked to that person again. Oh, it makes you feel dirty. Yeah, it's like, ew, no, no, thank you. Oh, it's weird. Okay, I got it all right. Thank you. So it's not so much disrespect for the in laws, because I know my actually, my ex, father in law, he just recently passed, and you know, that was hard and sad, and my boy's first time ever dealing with loss of a grandparent or anyone, and it was a very, you know, sad thing, and I've cared for him,
Scott Benner 42:35
but just not my ex. Well, I mean, not now that we got this story. No, obviously not. Jeez, yeah, was that part of it? Did he have a great No, not even that. Come on,
Anonymous Female Speaker 42:48
I don't I? I don't know what was happening. Also, Rob,
Scott Benner 42:52
I think we got to bleep that out twice. That work. Like, I mean, like, you can leave the vibe in if you want. But like, I think we had to take the word out, even though it's not one of the curses we usually take out. Yeah, yeah. I'm just looking for the reason, like, what's the John Cena of the whole thing? Oh, my God, we're gonna call your episode John Cena. Awesome, you know, for you really don't know. Well, what got you about him? Like he you, you gave yourself
Anonymous Female Speaker 43:18
personality. Yeah, it was. It was, it was absolutely his personality. And you know, they don't show they're crazy beforehand. I
Scott Benner 43:24
mean, listen, I've heard that said about a couple of ladies, too, but I hear what you're saying. Yeah, like in
Anonymous Female Speaker 43:28
general, you're gonna put your best foot forward always, you know, when you're dating someone. And we also got married way too fast. So
Scott Benner 43:36
were you too young?
Anonymous Female Speaker 43:37
Well, I was, I was 23 so yes, you're being
Scott Benner 43:41
so honest now, and since we've already decided that we're not going to tell your children that this exists, can I ask a question? I've been dying to know the answer to Sure. When you really love somebody and you're really vibing with them, right? And you just met them, and it's all going well, and then you decide to be intimate. And when it comes out, and it's not impressive, are you let down, or do you not think about it that way? Oh, I don't know. I guess you don't think about there's no pause where you go. I was hoping for something else. No, no, I don't think so. When does it hit you? Like, the first time it's happening and you go, I don't like this thing. Like, is that when you know you're in trouble? I guess that does happen right like sometime in the future, you were like, I got ripped off here. Yeah, but I don't know. I'm just asking this because I'm imagining all the women laughing in their cars right now. This is why I'm doing
Anonymous Female Speaker 44:33
it. I don't know. I tend to not like to think about being intimate. Have
Scott Benner 44:37
you ever had an experience? Definitely don't let your kids listen to this. Have you ever had an experience where your current husband, I don't think you should tell anybody about this now. You should probably tell people like it didn't work out. The recording didn't work. That's exactly what I'll say. Has one ever come out where you're like, oh, like the glowing, like the idol and like Indiana Jones, where you're like, oh my god, awesome. Like Christine got lucky today. Like you ever had one of those experiences?
Anonymous Female Speaker 44:59
I don't know. I mean, I really enjoy my current husband. I mean,
Scott Benner 45:03
I think you're supposed to say Yes, with my current husband, it came out. I don't know if
Anonymous Female Speaker 45:07
any. I mean, you heard, if I'm being honest, any,
Scott Benner 45:10
yeah, you don't think anything would make you feel that way in that scenario.
Anonymous Female Speaker 45:15
No, not like, Oh, yay.
Scott Benner 45:19
Music I was experiencing
Anonymous Female Speaker 45:21
in my head. I knew it was
Scott Benner 45:24
like, you know, when they opened the briefcase and Pulp Fiction. Oh, my God, no, I'm young to watch Pulp Fiction. No, what the is wrong with you people? Okay, all right,
Anonymous Female Speaker 45:34
listen, I just listened to an episode where you had to look a few good men. The name of that movie, movie,
Scott Benner 45:45
because I own that film, I just want to say I we just watched it with our oldest because it's so good. Yeah, I mean, I could tell you who wrote it, like, I mean, like, but I couldn't think of the title of it while
Anonymous Female Speaker 45:55
just talking. But that's okay. I understand. I appreciate this. Okay,
Scott Benner 45:59
all right. Well, yeah, can you please watch Pulp Fiction so we can continue to talk like, Can we pause this and come back?
Anonymous Female Speaker 46:05
I mean, we might have to,
Scott Benner 46:08
anyway, I don't know. The Is it a MacGuffin? The thing No, MacGuffin is technically. Is MacGuffin? Just like technology in a movie that's not real? And then what's the Oh, hold on a second. Do you know what I'm talking about? Like, there's
Anonymous Female Speaker 46:26
no technology in a movie that's not real.
Scott Benner 46:29
Yeah, I think they called him a Guffin. But I think McGuffin might be something else too. I'm I'm people right now are like, please don't use the electricity to chat. GP, no, I'm going to what is McGuffin. I need the definition in filmmaking, a MacGuffin, sometimes spelled McGuffin, is a plot device, an object or event or goal that drives the story forward but is ultimately unimportant in itself. Yeah. Okay, then I think I'm right. So then, oh my god, this is crazy. Do you want to be freaked out right now? Did they use your example? God damn right. They did. Not just that one, but another one that I used. So listening to you talk, that's what it is. No, it doesn't listen. Chatgpt, are you listening? It doesn't listen. Actually, I don't have a microphone on this computer. It doesn't listen. Oh, there you go. Something. A character cares deeply about a motivation for the action or conflict often revealed early in the story usually loses significance as the plot evolves. Classic examples the briefcase in Pulp Fiction, because we never actually find out what's in it, the Ark of the Covenant, which I used as the example for the in Raiders of the Lost Ark, the plans for the Death Star in Star Wars and in Citizen Kane rosebud, it sets up the story, but the film is actually about Kane's life, not the object itself, anyway. So then what is the plot device called when technology in a movie is not realistic. You know what I'm talking about? Like, when they just make up a technology, oh, it's called techno babble. Oh, okay, yeah, because they just, like, say a bunch of stuff, and you sound cool and you accept that, that thing moves the story forward. Yes, okay, does that make sense? Yep, I've been all over the place so far, and we've only been talking for 56
Anonymous Female Speaker 48:24
minutes. Sorry about that. Don't be sorry. This is my brain.
Scott Benner 48:28
Oh, you're okay with all this. Yeah, I swear to God, like I'm half expecting that when we get done recording, you're gonna say to me, Scott, I'm sorry for wasting your time, but please don't
Anonymous Female Speaker 48:36
put that out. I probably should, but I also knew very well that this could happen. So I mean, fair enough, you can't have a lifetime story, no, like life, and not have it shared. So it happened.
Scott Benner 48:50
Can we be serious for a second? Do you have any concerns about your children
Anonymous Female Speaker 48:54
having type one? I do, yes, and I've had the trial net kits for forever. Get them they're sitting in my closet. They actually had to resend them again because the last one's expired, and I just haven't done it yet. Like, I check them regularly if they have weird symptoms or this, that and the other and, I mean, I check my step kids too, because I'm like, Hey, you're drinking a lot. Let me just check your blood sugar. Like they know I'm the crazy lady
Scott Benner 49:19
and their uncle. Well, doesn't their uncle? No, that's the ex. Sorry, yeah,
Anonymous Female Speaker 49:23
yeah. My boys have it on both sides, so I definitely keep track
Scott Benner 49:26
of Yeah. By the way, I think trial net should change the name of those kits to the kitchen table kit, because apparently that's where everybody puts them after they order them and don't use them and don't use them. I know, by the way, I don't know if you know this or not. For all of you listening, the poor people at trial net, who are working so hard to try to advance this, are beating their heads against the wall right now, where you're probably they're listening to this, but I think they understand, and so do I like why it happens? Yeah,
Anonymous Female Speaker 49:49
it's that endless debate of, do you want to know? Like I know all the signs their dad knows the signs anytime I see signs that are interesting. And it's a time to. I'm like, hey, just keep an eye on this. They did this. Or, you know, if they're sick, to have a stomach bug, I'm always watching them for the couple weeks to a month afterward, just making sure they're okay. And because that, that's how it hit me, yeah, I do
Scott Benner 50:13
this with my son, and I feel weird that I think I'm going to do it for the rest of
Anonymous Female Speaker 50:16
my life. Yeah, yeah. You just, you think about it, because it's a possibility. You know that after illnesses, that typically is when it shows up. So,
Scott Benner 50:25
yeah, I don't think he knows that, by the way.
Anonymous Female Speaker 50:27
No, yeah, I don't think my kids do either. I mean, they you never really make it known, but always
Scott Benner 50:33
there. You're always thinking, listen, for those of you who enjoy movies, there are four device types around technology and movies. I'm gonna give you examples of each one of them. So the name of the first one is like hand wavium or fantastical devices. An example would be the arc reactor and Iron Man. That's just the thing they made up so that the whole thing works. But there's no reality to it whatsoever. Techno babble, the way that they talk about, like transporters and Star Trek, like they just say a bunch of stuff, and then you accept it's that happens, and then you don't ask questions in your mind about why they can move people from place to place. Pseudo using Pseudoscience in a movie like the digital mind upload in matrix and something called Deuce Ex Machina virus kills the alien mother ship in Independence Day. Ah, so techno babble, fake science talk to explain technology. The hand wavium is unbelievable. Tech waved off as it just works. Like, yeah, of course, he's got an arc. I mean, they put Tony in a cave, and he came out with a thing that makes the iron. Of course, Deus Ex Machina, when unrealistic tech saves the day with no setup, just out of nowhere, you're just like, oh, the thing fixed it. And of course, pseudoscience made up. Science used to justify impossible ideas. Now, you guys have learned a bunch of stuff, and I half want to call this episode MacGuffin now, but what did I say? I was John Cena Yeah, that's awesome too, but McGuffin is good too, it is, damn it. Now I put myself in a quandary. See, yeah, and wilting
Anonymous Female Speaker 52:09
and wilting, yeah. Oh, that's I said that early on, though. I said it way too early. Oh, how long have you been listening for a few years now,
Scott Benner 52:17
I was gonna say you're like, you won't use a title that's in the first 15 minutes.
Anonymous Female Speaker 52:21
No, hardly ever. Do you do that? I
Scott Benner 52:23
just in case you guys get bored of me. I want you to be like, I'm gonna hold on a little longer to find out what phantom hemorrhoid means.
Anonymous Female Speaker 52:29
Listen, you know what? At the end of this episode, everyone's like, I'm glad I stuck around. She was pretty boring at first. But hey,
Scott Benner 52:35
by the way, I don't want to say this in a way that don't sound like mean. But in the first 10 minutes, I was like, oh my god, maybe she is boring. Yeah, oh yeah. You have like, a slower speech pattern. When you started out, you're speaking faster. Now I got you moving. Eventually you did. I was worried that that could be you. Oh no, because then I tried a couple of different things. I tried psychological, but you're not really in that vibe. And so I was like, oh my god, am I going to keep hitting walls here? This is hard. You made me work really hard. Sorry
Anonymous Female Speaker 53:04
about that. No, it's funny because one of my employees actually knows that I'm I'm doing this too. And she's like, Well, you'll have no problem talking. You talk all the time. I'm like, Yeah, well, with people I know, like, We'll see, we'll see how it goes. It's
Scott Benner 53:15
interesting how it works. It is, oh. Somebody said, Oh, I have to speak for work. And I was like, Oh my God. Like, I'm exhaust. I think the way I said it was, I'm exhausted right now. And if you threw me on a stage, I'd talk for two hours, right? Yeah, it wouldn't even matter what we were going to talk about. I'm actually, we keep setting up. We're setting up the talks for the cruise, which is coming up pretty quickly. Yeah. And people are like, well, the people I'm working with, like, well, what are you going to talk about here? I was like, diabetes. I diabetes,
Anonymous Female Speaker 53:44
generally. Just, yeah, diabetes. I was like,
Scott Benner 53:46
well, we just start by going diabetes, right? And then just, I'll talk forever. And she's like, I think you should have, you know, something written down like that. You're going to, like, stick to I was like, I feel like that's not necessary, but I have, but it's still, like, that vibe inside of me at first. It's like, no, I'll be okay. Yeah, yeah. There's three, two hour talks in like, a five day cruise, and we have other people. We really wanted to bring Jenny and Erica on the cruise, but it was the first year for and it kind of couldn't support that yet, okay, but we're hoping to do that next year. But anyway, they're going to come on through digital. Like, that's what we're trying to work out right now. So that's cool, yeah. So my idea was like, let them come on and talk for like, a half an hour, and then I'll do the last 90 minutes. And the person who's setting it up keeps saying to me, like, you can do this, and they can talk longer. I'm like, I need two hours. Isn't enough? I think she's trying to protect me. She's like, Scott, you're gonna speak for two hours, like, three times in five days. That's going to be horrible. And I keep thinking like, no, no, I'll be
Anonymous Female Speaker 54:42
alright. Yeah, that's what you do,
Scott Benner 54:44
right? It's my job. You guys have no idea that if it wasn't for editing costs and the fact that I don't think people care, I'd make three hour podcasts. Oh, absolutely, yeah. I stop myself like, I kick that. That's why they end so abruptly, because I hear a. Always in my head go, this is costing too much to edit. You got to stop. Yep, yep, exactly. I'd still be talking to the person from last week if I was able to. And by the way, I think it would work. I don't know that people have the time for it now that COVID is over, but, and there's already a couple of podcasts out there that are putting out three hour episodes, they're probably chewing up everyone's free time, but Right? I think that you'd find some crazy stuff if you kept talking to people. Oh, absolutely, yeah, I don't know how much of it, it would be about diabetes is the problem
Anonymous Female Speaker 55:31
well, but isn't that kind of what we are all here for anyway, though. I mean, we're not really here for diabetes only. At least I'm not. I like hearing the stories. I like hearing the side stories of people's lives with diabetes. I hope so that's what's fun. Yeah,
Scott Benner 55:44
it's my opinion that that's what it is. But yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know, like, some people complain. Some people are like, can you just tell me how to Pre Bolus and shut up. You have go find that episode. Well, that's the, you know, what? Of all the things, if I had 20 minutes to yell at somebody from, like, Apple, for example. Like, I know most podcasts don't work that way, but for the ones that do, if you could just give them a tiny menu underneath and put collections in, yeah, that would be nice. It would be such a big deal, you know. And I don't believe difficult to do, but I just think that most podcasts, well, the truth. You wanna know the truth about podcasts, what's that? Very few of the registered podcasts actually produce do any episodes. Yeah. So I believe that it's one of those things where there's, you know, 100 really famous people making a podcast, and there's probably another 10,000 people who are making, like, pot, like, really taking advantage of of the platform, like, I am, right? And the rest of it's just, you know, 10 episodes, and then they abandon it, yeah? Because it's, it's hard, yeah. And the truth is, is so few people's podcasts are popular. I don't mean this in any sort of way, but, like, if nobody was listening to this, I wouldn't make it absolutely, yeah, yeah. But why would you, I mean, I don't know. I just interviewed a guy a couple weeks ago. He makes one with his daughter, but his family listens to it, like, it's okay, it's fun, like it's a thing he does with his kids. You know what? I mean, yeah, and it gets 10 or 15 downloads, and it's the people, yeah, it's lovely. There's nothing wrong with that. That man has a podcast. That's not what we're talking about. I'm talking about people who are earnestly making podcasts that are getting, like, you know, 500 downloads for an episode, or 30, or even, like, honestly, even a couple of 1000, like, you know, right, right? It's a lot of work to just have 2000 people listen to it. Sure you have no idea how much effort this all takes, I guess is my point. It all sounds fun right now, because we're talking about glowing like stuff like that. It all feels like exciting. Who is calling me, Oh, hold on, Birmingham, all right. Well, listen, this person. This person's making a real mistake. Hold on a second. Hello. Hi, Scott. This is from Oh, hold on a second. You actually need to take a real phone call. Caitlin, I'm making a podcast right now. Can I call you back in a couple of minutes? No, don't be sorry. I thought it was like a spam call, so I was gonna, like, screw with you and put you on the podcast. But then you said who you were, and I was like, Oh no, hold on a second. I'll call you right back. Okay, thanks. Bye. She's like, I'm so sorry. You have to be sorry. It's my fault. That's great. Oh, my God, that's awesome. Rob, take her name out. Yeah. Oh, actually, Rob, take her name out, and the company she called from, right please. Yeah. Also, do you think Rob right now is, like, people know my name. This is awesome. You know Rob. Rob was a really famous musician before he was handling my
Anonymous Female Speaker 58:49
podcast. Oh yeah, I didn't know that.
Scott Benner 58:53
Well, there we go. I keep asking, by the way, Rob, while we're while we've got you on the hook here, man, when are you? Rob's been telling me for three years he's going to pull out a bass and remake the opening to the podcast on base. Oh, that'd be awesome. Yeah, I've never, I've never held his feet to the fire on it, but here it is. Now it is
Anonymous Female Speaker 59:09
my husband plays bass, and it's awesome till they're like, practicing in your living room for hours upon hours.
Scott Benner 59:17
Just kidding, I love you. Oh, we're gonna say his name. That's lovely, man. She really likes your setting, your name and everything. I Everything I do, I really do, he spoils me. If this guy cheats on you, you're just gonna murder everybody, right? Oh, I've already told
Anonymous Female Speaker 59:29
him, yeah, like, I went peacefully the last time. It's never happening again. I'm gonna lose it completely, like, burning things in the yard. I'm all blasted on Facebook, like all the things I hate that people do, I'm doing it, so don't screw me over. Which he I have no I have no concerns.
Scott Benner 59:46
I'm sure. Listen, if you're making a new decision in your 30s, like, I'm sure my wife is like, Oh, if I waited in my 30s, I would have got a decent guy instead
Anonymous Female Speaker 59:55
of me. Listen, he's amazing. My my husband's amazing. He spoils me completely. So it. That's why I have such a good outlook on everything that happened. Like, I cannot imagine not having him in my life.
Scott Benner 1:00:07
I swear to God. Like, people will think otherwise, because I think people think I'm stupid. But like, I think your episode is really about hopefulness, seriously, like, that thing you laid out for me with the X and all that's horrible. Like, I know it's your life, and it's probably you can't think of it that way, because you don't want it to bum you out, but, like, you should be a little bitter and you're not like, yeah. I mean, it's really lovely of you to be perfectly honest. I hope he appreciates the grace you've handed back to him that I'm assuming he didn't deserve. Yep, yeah,
Anonymous Female Speaker 1:00:38
yeah. And I don't think it would have been the same if we didn't have kids. You know that like my kids are everything like you don't I don't know. Can I understand they didn't ask for any of it, right? So,
Scott Benner 1:00:48
but how long were you with them? See,
Anonymous Female Speaker 1:00:50
when did we get married? 2012 and then we divorced in 2017 so five years?
Scott Benner 1:00:57
Oh, it's not that long. No, oh no, yeah. If you didn't have kids, you would have just been like, you would have gone peace out. I would have gone crazy. You would have gone to the 711 stood up on a milk jug and told people for nine hours straight that he was a piece of Yeah, correct, yeah. Milk. What am I saying? Not jug, milk, crate, crate. Yeah, great. They still make those. They do, right? Think so. I mean, I worked in a 711 when I was like, 19. I mean, they assume they do. Yeah, there was a lot of weird flirting at the 711 with the people who work there,
Anonymous Female Speaker 1:01:27
like between the co workers, or between customers co workers. I think that's everywhere, though, isn't it? Like people are always being real stupid with coworkers? I feel like, I think
Scott Benner 1:01:38
so. Can I tell you the dodgiest thing I've ever done since you I think it's my god, hold on. I slept with a 711 customer one time. What
Anonymous Female Speaker 1:01:54
like were they just like a regular and they just kept coming back like
Scott Benner 1:01:58
it wasn't a one. She didn't get a pack of smokes. And I was like, hey, I'll go with you. It wasn't like that. She was in there a fair amount. I think she lived in like, an apartment that was, well, I don't, I don't have to say. I think she definitely lived in an apartment that was near the 711 I know, because that's where I had sex with her. And then she just was very flirty, and I don't know, like I She asked if, oh, yeah, I know what happened now, yeah, that's a long time ago, but now I'm seeing it. She wanted to go for a ride on my motorcycle. Oh, those things are, you know, I'm saying, not hard to get a lady from a motorcycle to a different saddle situation, is what I'm saying. I understand. Yeah, you got what I'm saying. Okay. Anyway, she was really cute.
Anonymous Female Speaker 1:02:41
Well, maybe that's why my ex got a motorcycle not too long ago. Are you serious? I wish I was kidding. Oh gosh,
Scott Benner 1:02:49
see if you talk long enough you'd be surprised, what comes out is what I'm saying. That's right, that's right. No, I mean, we talk for four more hours, we're gonna find out we're related. Look, honestly, right, all right. Listen, usually I just tell people you're awesome, because I think they were, but I'm just going to say this, you're way too honest, and I really appreciate that. So did the other people listening?
Anonymous Female Speaker 1:03:10
Yeah, the most fun ones to listen to are the ones people actually tell the truth. So
Scott Benner 1:03:15
yeah, I was going to say, did that have some impact on you? Like you've enjoyed people's stories, and you wanted to kind of come correct on that, yeah, I think so, yeah, yeah, I
Anonymous Female Speaker 1:03:24
appreciate it. I mean, I definitely don't want anyone I know to listen to this now, but it's most people who know me well enough know the whole story anyway, though. So,
Scott Benner 1:03:33
yeah, I mean, I get you like you do seem like an open book,
Anonymous Female Speaker 1:03:36
yeah? Oh, yeah, I don't. I don't hide much, right? You own
Scott Benner 1:03:40
a you don't have to tell me what it is, but you own a business. No no, because you said employees, I wasn't sure.
Anonymous Female Speaker 1:03:46
Oh, no, I a manager. I manage one of our back office departments.
Scott Benner 1:03:50
All right. Hold on one second for me, you really were awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you.
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