#1589 Fun Diagnosis

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Tyler, 16, was diagnosed with T1D through TrialNet after testing positive—his dad has T1D, his mom T2. Three years in, he’s navigating diabetes with a family who gets it.

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Scott Benner 0:00
Friends, we're all back together for the next episode of The Juicebox podcast. Welcome.

Tyler Hoskins 0:15
I'm Tyler Hoskins. I've been diabetic for three or four years now, and the way I got diagnosed, it's not the way that most people do. So I was a part of a research study through a company called trial net.

Scott Benner 0:35
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Tyler Hoskins 2:48
I'm Tyler Hoskins. I've been diabetic for three or four years now, and the way I got diagnosed, it's not the way that most people do. So I was a part of a research study through a company called trial net. They started doing early detection for diabetics, and I was a part of the research study before I was diabetic. Both my parents are diabetic. It pretty much runs in my family for a long time, and all they did was just sent us a little package with a lancet and a little tube, a little vial, and asked us to fill it up with blood, sent it back. All three of my siblings, or me and my two other siblings did this. It's through antibodies. So when they sent us results, I think normal for one antibody in specific. Don't remember which one it is. It was around 20, and my antibody count was somewhere around 600 what

Scott Benner 3:53
do they check for five different auto antibodies? And you're saying that 20 is like a level for one of them, and yours was like off the chart, yeah. Oh, and did you just have one at that point that was off the chart? Or did you have more than one? Did you have up the five or I

Tyler Hoskins 4:07
had two others that were a little higher, not as high as that. Do

Scott Benner 4:13
you remember which one had the big number? I don't know. That's okay. So you found out through the mail. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Not a lot of people find out through the mail, your mom and dad both have type one. My dad is type one. My mom is type two. Mom is type two. Anybody else type one besides you and your and your dad, just a lot of extended family in your head. You don't have to say their names, obviously, but like, count them off in your head, give me his like, like an aunt, a cousin, like, that kind of thing. Five or six. Five or six. How about other autoimmune stuff? Do you have hypothyroidism? Nope, no. Does anybody else?

Tyler Hoskins 4:53
My mom, she has something with her thyroid. Don't know what? It's not celiac. I do have a diabetic cousin. She does have the celiac, okay,

Scott Benner 5:04
type one in celiac. Your cousin, yeah, yeah. Tell people how old you are. I'm sorry we didn't go to Yeah, I'm 16. Okay, you said three or four years. How old were you when you were diagnosed? I

Tyler Hoskins 5:15
was diagnosed sixth grade, so 12 maybe,

Scott Benner 5:19
right? So first of all, when your parents decide to do trial net for you and your siblings, and by the way, did you any of your siblings have markers?

Tyler Hoskins 5:28
My brother, he had some markers, not a concerning amount. He's one. He's one now, and he's still not diabetic, okay? And my sister came back. She has no antibodies at all. Okay,

Scott Benner 5:41
so when they come to you originally, do you remember them saying, like, why they were poking a hole in your finger in the middle of the

Tyler Hoskins 5:47
living room? It's been a concern that I was starting to become diabetic for a while. It was Christmas the year before, and Christmas foods a lot of sugar. My dad, he noticed I was going to the bathroom a lot, so he got out his meter, changed the needle, all that, and told me to test my blood sugar, and it was like 203, or something. Not concerning now that I'm diabetic, but I'm sure that's pretty concerning for a non diabetic.

Scott Benner 6:18
Yeah, I think most people would tell you that a fasting blood sugar of over 140 would be concerning, and that a 200 even after a meal, if you, if you don't have type one, you shouldn't really get to 200 so your dad was on to it, yeah, yeah. Okay. Does he tell you at that point, you remember him saying, Did he go, oh, let me check your blood sugar. Everything's cool, run off and play. Or was he, like, Did he say something more specific about what was

Tyler Hoskins 6:45
happening at that point? I kind of like, knew diabetes management as a general sense, and I kind of knew 200 was a little high. It was like, couple days after that, he put one of his old G fives on me, since he was on the g6 at that point, but still had some g5 laying around. And it would spike up to 200 every now and then if I have, like, a really heavy carb meal. But other than that, it would stay generally in diabetic range, not

Scott Benner 7:19
non diabetic or diabetic range. Diabetic range. Okay, so, yeah, you were looking like type one. Now at that age, is that scary? I'm trying to figure out your mind, like your your headspace around that at that point, it

Tyler Hoskins 7:34
didn't really scare me at all, since I've grown up with a lot of diabetic family, and they always seemed just fine with it. Gotcha. After that, my parents went to, I think it was my pediatrician, and showed them, hey, this is what my son's blood sugar is. It's not normal. And they said something along the lines of, we really can't do anything until something like really bad happens. Did you try going to an endo after that? After that, we just kind of watched my blood sugar every now and then, made sure I wasn't like three hundreds. And then, I don't remember how my parents learned about trial net, but they learned about it, so they decided to get me and my two siblings tested. Yeah, and then after that, they noticed me and my brother's antibodies were high. Mine were a lot higher than his. So then they took us to a hospital down in Indianapolis. They went and did a glucose tolerance test. Was the first thing, yeah, they noticed mine was higher than it should be. My brothers was just fine, and then they went and did an MRI of

Scott Benner 8:45
our pancreas, really? Yeah, do you remember why they did

Tyler Hoskins 8:50
that? The doctor said they're just trying to figure out, like, ways of early detection in diabetes. Oh, okay, so this was before trial. NET is where it is now, this was in its beta stages.

Scott Benner 9:02
This was part of the process of being involved with trial net, yeah, I

Tyler Hoskins 9:07
see, okay, since doctors wouldn't do anything. So he went to trial net, yeah, I see.

Scott Benner 9:12
And they sent you out to this facility in Indianapolis. Yep, got it. Got it. Got it. I mean, at this point, like, you know, right? Like, I have type one, or even if it hasn't started, started, it's on its way, and it's coming.

Tyler Hoskins 9:25
I could tell I'm gonna be type one, if I'm not considered that already. We had quite a long period where I wasn't sure if I was type one or not yet, because no one really diagnosed me yet.

Scott Benner 9:41
Yeah. How long was that process of not knowing? Knowing?

Tyler Hoskins 9:45
It was about five months. Oh, geez, where I knew my blood sugar is not normal, but it wasn't. No one ever told me. Hey, you're diabetic, but you're figuring

Scott Benner 9:59
it out. As you go, Yeah, how's your overall health at that point? Did you feel run down? Were you losing weight? Was anything like that happening?

Tyler Hoskins 10:09
I felt fine, really. I noticed, like, if I didn't eat for a while, I would have, like, low blood sugar symptoms, but nothing concerning.

Scott Benner 10:19
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Tyler Hoskins 12:24
So after Indianapolis, I don't really remember the timeframe, they sent me up with a local endocrinologist, and they went over the results, and they're the ones that said you're diabetic, and the way they started me on insulin was a little weird, since at this point, you know, my pancreas still worked, yeah, but not all the way. They gave me long acting insulin. They just never told me to use it. They they gave me Lantis, right? Never used it. And they told me at the very beginning, if your blood sugar is over 202 hours after eating,

Scott Benner 13:03
then take insulin. But Lantis, no,

Tyler Hoskins 13:07
the they gave me Nova log. They gave you Nova log too. Okay, yeah, I was like, the Lantus was just sitting in our fridge. Never used Gotcha. So two hours after eating over 200 then I would go and take, like, a unit of insulin I couldn't do anything about if I know I'm gonna have a carb heavy meal sometimes. One time during Thanksgiving, I went and took, like, a unit and a half, maybe two. My doctor didn't tell me to do that. I just figured I'm gonna go high.

Scott Benner 13:34
You do that on your own, Tyler. Did you do that with your parents? My dad told me to Yeah. I was gonna say, like, how long has your dad had type one? He's had it

Tyler Hoskins 13:42
since he was about my age, and he's mid 40s now. Yeah, so he's he knows what's going on. Yeah, he's had it for a long time. He probably wanted

Scott Benner 13:52
to get moving with covering at least those carb heavy meals at the in the moment, right? Yeah, were you guys just kind of stuck feeling like you had to listen to the doctor, or did it feel like you were doing the right thing? It

Tyler Hoskins 14:05
was kind of frustrating, since my dad knew how to take care of like a full diabetic. But the doctor was just telling me, just put it off. Just keep putting off me getting full diabetes until it comes.

Scott Benner 14:21
It's a weird way to think of it. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I don't know. Like, if you're going to spike at a meal and you don't need basal, then give yourself some insulin before the meal so you don't spike. Like, that doesn't seem crazy to me. It doesn't, I don't know if that makes a ton of sense to me, but whatever, I mean, it's what they did, right? Yeah, yeah. And then was this, like, a very slow onset, or did it come all at once? Once it came,

Tyler Hoskins 14:43
it still took quite a while. After a while, I still know long acting insulin. I asked if I could switch to a pump, since I didn't like giving myself shots, and they said, since I was still on. Very little amount of insulin. They said we will try and give you a pump. No idea if it'll actually work. I wanted the Omnipod five at that point, so I got it, tried it. It did pretty good for quite a while. I had it for maybe two years, and then just last week, I switched to the Moby. What made you switch? My dad, he has a x2 and I've seen a lot of people who have the Moby, mainly at a camp I go to for diabetes. Everyone who has the Moby talks about how great it is and how much they love it. The Omnipod, it still worked, just I didn't really feel like I liked it as much anymore.

Scott Benner 15:44
What about it? Was it the algorithm? Was it the form factor

Tyler Hoskins 15:49
after meals, I would always go high, and then, like I would change ratios, I'd still kind of go high. I felt like OmniPods algorithm wasn't quite aggressive enough for what I needed. So everyone was telling me how they had similar problems, and they switched to the Mobi, and mobi worked great for them. Did

Scott Benner 16:09
you ever try resetting the Omnipod five like changing your manual settings, getting them and then putting it back into automation again to see if maybe your needs had changed? I've changed my ratios and all that. My point is this, the ship sailed already. But yeah, if you're running Omnipod five and automation, like, you know, for a while, and let's say you got a foot taller, you can change, I don't know you somehow your weight change gained weight. If you just go into settings and change your settings, that doesn't change how automation works. It changes your manual settings. So you'd have to reset the system, put in those new settings into manual, then restart automation, like wiping it clean and starting over again, and then it would start over with those new settings. There are settings in Omnipod five that while you're in automation, no matter how much you change them, they're not impacting automation. They're only impacting manual. If you're in manual, does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. If that's the thing people don't tell you, then you feel like you're making it stronger, or doing whatever you're trying to do and making it weaker, etc, and you're not actually touching it. The algorithm still doing what it thinks is right. Anyway, like I said, Yeah, horses out of the barn on that one, yeah, important to know for other people. Okay, got the Moby you're you're liking it, and how long you've been using it, about a week now. Oh, okay, and what are your findings?

Tyler Hoskins 17:31
First day or two was a little rough, but after that, it started working great. I didn't really spike as high after meals right now, my timing range is 96

Scott Benner 17:45
what's the spike look like now after a meal?

Tyler Hoskins 17:47
So with this, after, like yesterday for dinner, I went and had, I think it was hot dogs. And then after that, you know, blood sugar went from 109 to 130 after hot dogs, not too terrible. Then when I was 130 I went and had peach cobbler, which then spiked me up to 205 and then after that, the Moby went and brought it right back down to where it's supposed to be, and stayed that way rest of the night.

Scott Benner 18:18
After you hit the 205 peak, how long do you think it was until you were back to where you wanted to be?

Tyler Hoskins 18:24
I was back down to, like, 150 so the peak was at 552 okay, I was back to 150 at 630

Scott Benner 18:36
did you Pre-Bolus, the cobbler? Yeah. Do you remember how much you gave? Like, how long I gave it 15 minutes. Very nice, but that's a lot of sugar, right? Hit you pretty quick. Yeah,

Tyler Hoskins 18:46
peach cobbler with ice cream on it. You

Scott Benner 18:50
said peach cobbler. PE you had peach cobbler and ice cream. I see what you're saying. Yeah, there's a lot, a lot of sugar happening. Okay, awesome. That's great, man. I'm happy for you. Do you wear it on, like, with a long piece of tubing, or do you kind of wear it on your body with a short piece?

Tyler Hoskins 19:03
I have the long tubing right now, and first couple days I had it in my pocket, but I just put on that body patch. I like it a lot better, especially when I'm, like, sleeping, okay, since I'll roll around a lot, and I've noticed it started getting caught on something and started

Scott Benner 19:24
polling, yeah, but so I was gonna ask you, after using Omnipod for so long, like, what was it like with the tubing and the Where do you even put the is the thing I can't even imagine, because my daughter's only ever went on Omnipod, but like, where do you put the device at The end of the tubing when you're sleeping, like on a table. Is it in bed with you? What do you do?

Tyler Hoskins 19:44
I use the belt clip it had, and it'll just clip it to my underwear.

Scott Benner 19:49
Gotcha needs to be kind of clipped to you.

Tyler Hoskins 19:52
Yeah? First night I just had it just kind of roaming around, and I didn't like that so much. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know, it felt like I'd roll over and they'd be like, pulling on the site, like,

Scott Benner 20:05
when you fall asleep with your Airpods, in the case, and then you wake up and they're like, under your hip or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Do you fall asleep with your headphones in ever? Rarely. I do it all the time. I wonder, I always wonder, what other people do. Like, I love listening to this stuff as I'm falling asleep, but then, like, you wake up, like I said, you know, like searching the bed, looking for the air pod, can't find anywhere. It's like under a pillow on the other side of the bed and stuff. Then I inevitably try to put them in the case so they won't be dead in the morning, drop it on the floor. We have hardwood, so it hits, makes a ton of noise. My wife said, what was that? What was that? It's a whole thing, Tyler, you're better off where you are. You're 16 now. You've had type one for for a while, yeah, since 2022 so getting past your diagnosis, what's it been like? I mean, it's a formidable age, right? You're getting older, and you're 16 now. To you driving yet,

Tyler Hoskins 20:53
I have my permit right now so I can drive with my parent. Okay,

Scott Benner 20:57
so you're going through all that give a good friend group, or you got people messing with you about the diabetes? Are they supportive? Like, what's been your findings over the last couple of years?

Tyler Hoskins 21:07
All my friends, they know I'm diabetic. They don't really know much about it. For them, like, my diabetes is just kind of there. It's not really in the way it's they don't really care much about it. It's just kind of

Scott Benner 21:22
there. You have a close friend that would know what to do if you had trouble.

Tyler Hoskins 21:26
They all know what to do if I end up going down.

Scott Benner 21:29
Has that ever happened? Nope, no. Okay. You play any sports? Nope. Not anymore. Not anymore. Did diabetes get in the way of the sports? Or is it just something you naturally stop

Tyler Hoskins 21:39
doing? I did play football for two years. Then I became diabetic. That is one of the reasons I don't do football anymore. Back then, it was through the parks department, so they didn't make any cuts, any of that. So I played it for two years. And then if you wanted to keep playing football, you would have to join the school's team, which not a big fan of the school's team. Okay, they make cuts. Not really sure if I could make the cuts or not. Yeah, you're playing for fun. Yeah, yeah, gotcha. And having the Dexcom and Omnipod on at that time, that was one of the reasons that I didn't do football anymore.

Scott Benner 22:19
You weren't sure quite how to handle that. Yeah, I see. How about during activity? Was your blood sugar? Okay?

Tyler Hoskins 22:26
Yeah, it was fine during most activities. Good, good, good. If it's like a really intense activity that I'm doing, I put on activity mode in Omnipod for my Moby. If it's a really intense activity, which most of the time, most of my activity is just swimming, so I won't have a pump on. Anyways, yeah,

Scott Benner 22:45
gotcha,

Tyler Hoskins 22:46
have you swam? Now, with a pump you had to disconnect, versus a pump you didn't have to couple times. Now what's the difference? I thought it was interesting. First time I tried the movie, I disconnected. It turned off. Insulin, just put it down. Then I noticed when I was swimming, my blood sugar still went low. This was like half an hour, maybe an hour after I disconnected, okay, and then I started feeling a little low. So I checked my blood sugar, and it was like 75 so I thought it was a little weird. Since I haven't had insulin in like an hour, I still went low.

Scott Benner 23:25
Did you get low when you were swimming on Omnipod five? Not

Tyler Hoskins 23:29
a crazy amount, okay, all right, but it would still happen now and then.

Scott Benner 23:33
So everything's very variable, you know, yeah, it's hard to put your finger on what's going on. Sometimes people don't give you a crap about it. You don't seem like you care at all that you have diabetes. It's not a thing that's affecting you

Tyler Hoskins 23:45
psychologically. No, it's just kind of there. I deal with it. It's just there.

Scott Benner 23:51
Do you feel closer to your dad because you have it now?

Tyler Hoskins 23:55
He does help quite a bit. We have had a lot of more bonding time with it, and it's kind of funny. So my mom, she has follow on both me and my dad, and it's funny since my brother, he's moved out now, so it's just me and my sister and mom and dad. So whenever mom's phone would beep, my sister would always guess who's beeping. She started getting really good at it. It's kind of scary. Do you

Scott Benner 24:26
and your dad have similar outcomes? Like, because I imagine you're managing reasonably similarly, right? He probably taught you how to do it. And so, like, I'm wondering, like, do meals end and you guys end up kind of in the same place, or is it wildly different?

Tyler Hoskins 24:41
Sometimes, like after we eat, I'll notice I'm going high, so I'll ask him, and sometimes he's also going high. But one thing my sister noticed more of the urgent lows are my dad. So whenever she hears the urgent low sound from my mom's phone. Hmm, she'll always guess dad, and almost all the time, it is him. What do you think he's doing differently than you? I have no idea what he's the one that taught me how to do everything.

Scott Benner 25:12
Yeah, maybe you've refined the process. Maybe you should have to teach him. I'm sure he'd be thrilled if you came back to him and said, Hey, Dad, I I've been noticing a lot of urgent lows on you lately. Maybe you'd like to watch me see what I'm doing so you can figure this out.

Tyler Hoskins 25:27
Did he have a pump his whole life? He started out just on syringes, yeah, and I think he didn't really get a pump until he was

Scott Benner 25:36
married. Okay? You think your mom made him do it.

Tyler Hoskins 25:41
I don't think she really made him. She might have suggested it.

Scott Benner 25:44
Yeah, well, you're not married, Tyler, that's made him, but I understand that. You don't know that yet. Yeah, yeah. But no, you think like once he got married, he was maybe looking to refine his control a little bit, yeah, so

Tyler Hoskins 25:58
he started out with Medtronic, and I have no idea how long he had it, but of he talked about how he didn't really like Medtronic. They're pumping guardian. I think he had a guardian. He said that they were okay, but it was their customer support back in the day. He said he didn't like that as much. Okay, so eventually he switched to a T slim, and as far as I can remember, he's always had a tea slim.

Scott Benner 26:30
Okay, where are you guys located? Like, because you said you went, I think you said down to Indianapolis, but you sound like you're, I'm worried that your voice is gonna sound deeper than mine on this podcast. So, like, it's hard to tell where you're from, but you have a little bit of a, like, I can't decide if there's like a steer near your house, or if you're more like, upper

Tyler Hoskins 26:50
midwest, northeast Indiana. Oh, okay.

Scott Benner 26:53
Oh, you're, you're still in Indiana. I got you, yeah, okay. But northeast I see all right, you live there your whole life. Yep, yeah. You have any ideas about where you might want to go to college, or if you want to go,

Tyler Hoskins 27:05
I have somewhat of an idea what I want to do. So my brother, he lives in Florida, now, got a really good flight school opportunity, so he took that, ended up working at the flight school, and then now he's the Chief of Operations at the flight school. Oh, wow. So he stopped his flight schooling, and now just is Chief of Operations at the flight school, and here end of July, he told me I could get an internship at their maintenance department, which I've thought maintenance or engineering or something like that is kind of cool for a while now. Yeah, so he told me he got me a two week internship with the airplane maintenance down at his flight school. Go give it a try. I'm going to give it a try right now. I want to go into avionics.

Scott Benner 27:56
Is that a thing you'd go to like a specific school for after high school? It's

Tyler Hoskins 28:00
kind of like a trade school. Okay? It's down in Florida. Darman, you

Scott Benner 28:07
learn to work on the planes then, yeah, I got you. Is your brother a pilot? He's still

Tyler Hoskins 28:12
slowly doing his flight training. I think he's close to his commercial license right now. Oh,

Scott Benner 28:18
no kidding, does the whole family fly? Or is it just the thing that your brother does,

Tyler Hoskins 28:21
just him, he's taken us

Scott Benner 28:24
up in airplanes. It seems safe. You were, you felt comfortable. It was a little bumpy, but I trusted him. I don't trust anybody that much. Tyler, I was on a plane last week, and we were coming into Houston, and, like, We're descending, or maybe, like a 3000 feet, and we just hit, like a again, one of those dead pockets where the plane feels like it jumps through the turbulence. This lady, like, four or five rows behind me, she started screaming, and she did not stop. I mean, like, long after everyone was like, Oh, it's over. That was fine. And it was just one big bump. She was still going. And I was seated next to these, these two little kids, like these, these sisters, they were, must be like seven and like nine or something like that. By the way, best people I've ever sat next to on a plane in my entire life. They were just like, quiet and lovely and polite and everything. And their father was like, across from us. And now I feel like I have to explain Tyler that when, like, I was already in my seat on the aisle, I like to sit in the aisle, right? And then the father comes up and, like, gestures to me that the two seats next to them are for his daughters, and he's across the aisle. And so I think, because I'm a good person, Tyler, yeah, I think I'm gonna let the dad sit here. You know what I mean? Like, why not? Right? But then I look over to see that he has the middle seat, and the guy next to him on the aisle was he was taken up more than his fair share. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and his beard looked like maybe it didn't get a full washing that day. And I looked up to say to the dad. Just take my seat, but kind of scan the whole situation very quickly. And I looked up and I said, Hey, don't worry, I've raised two kids. They're still alive. I'll take good care of them, like they got it. I was like, Hey, girls, I'm Scott, what's your name? And they like, introduce themselves. I'm like, You need anything? You tell me. I'll tell your dad. Okay. And they were like, right on. So like, I helped them with, like, plugging their stuff in and, like, some other stuff, like putting the shade down in the lights and stuff like that. Like, I didn't have a whole lot of interaction with them. But anyway, I just looked up. I really thought I was just gonna say, like, oh, you know, just have a seat, you know. But then I was like, no, no, I want to stay in my aisle seat. So anyway, I felt bad for a minute, but I got over it. And anyway, the girls were great seat mates, and they were laughing at the woman who was yelling stuff. Anyway, I don't know why I told you that, other than I think those girls needed a shout out for being so cool on a plane, not that they'll ever hear this. I guess what I want to understand is the diabetes doesn't feel like to me, like it's a huge part of your consciousness day to day, like you're taking care of it like. But what are your outcomes like? Do you know what your a 1c has been for the last year? How's your variability? Do you feel like you're putting a lot of extra effort into diabetes, or does it feel like kind of background to you? I

Tyler Hoskins 31:13
don't really know my a 1c off the top my head, my doctor always says that it's really good. Don't know if she says that to everyone, or just me,

Scott Benner 31:22
I think they say to everyone who's not dying, they're all like, you're doing great. Did you get that you're doing great? Yep, yeah, you're doing great. So if I said to you, you're a one season, the fives, the sixes, the sevens, the eights, would you know which one?

Tyler Hoskins 31:33
I would say it's like, low sixes. Okay,

Scott Benner 31:38
nice. So you don't know exactly what it is, but you know about where it is, yeah. So that's not even a thing that you're like focused. So you go to those appointments with your mom or your dad, depends on the time could be either, yeah, okay, you both your parents have a firm idea of how to help you and how to help you manage that they were they part of the teaching process, or was it all on your dad?

Tyler Hoskins 31:58
Mainly on my dad, my mom would give ideas every now and then, but she didn't grow up having type one diabetes, so yeah, she could try and help,

Scott Benner 32:09
but she's been married to a type one for a long time. I imagine he's

Tyler Hoskins 32:13
the same way I am. Like his diabetes is there. He doesn't really like it's not really a big part. It's just he manages it. It's done. He won't go out and say. It took a lot of convincing for my mom to get the follow app. He's not really public about his diabetes.

Scott Benner 32:32
Oh, wait, took him. He had to be convinced, or your mom had to be Yeah, my dad had to be convinced. Oh, and this, did this only happen once you got diabetes, yeah,

Tyler Hoskins 32:42
I think she got it on me a little bit after she got it on my dad too,

Scott Benner 32:46
gotcha, and he was like, I'm fine. Leave me alone.

Tyler Hoskins 32:50
He's always been great with his diabetes, yeah, okay. He didn't really need the monitoring,

Scott Benner 32:56
right? But it makes her feel better. Do you think? Yeah, I think maybe once she started seeing your blood sugar, she started wondering about your dad too, I bet. Yeah. It's interesting. Do you notice, like, your dad's your dad, right? You think your mom was, I'm gonna guess she was obviously upset. Didn't know that you had type one like, but like, do you think it really affected her? Have you seen it change how she is with you? Not a major amount.

Tyler Hoskins 33:23
It was kind of known that at least one of the children are gonna be diabetic eventually,

Scott Benner 33:29
because of the fam, the whole family, there's a fair amount, right? Yeah. So do you think? Have you ever talked to her about it, like, did she marry your dad, knowing I'm probably gonna have a baby with type one at some

Tyler Hoskins 33:39
point? I don't know. Interesting question. You would probably know that one of the children's probably going to be type one, since her dad and some of her families are also diabetic,

Scott Benner 33:51
yeah, type two, type only, type two on her side.

Tyler Hoskins 33:55
Her dad's type one, most is type two. Oh, her

Scott Benner 33:59
dad's type one. Your dad's type one. There's type one on your dad's side. Yeah, one of you is definitely getting it. I mean, not definitely, but

Tyler Hoskins 34:06
you know what I mean, like the odds, a lot of jeans in my family for diabetes. Yeah, a lot

Scott Benner 34:09
of holes in your jeans. You know what I mean, yeah, you can buy them that way. Now, did you know that pre distressed? They call it? You wouldn't wear jeans with a hole in it, right on purpose.

Tyler Hoskins 34:19
The only holes in my jeans are if they do end up getting ripped,

Scott Benner 34:23
then they just stay there. Yeah, I hear you. You think your sister feels it's gonna sound crazy for a minute. Maybe think your sister feels left out.

Tyler Hoskins 34:32
She seemed happy that she wasn't gonna be diabetic when we did the trial net.

Scott Benner 34:40
But you weren't sad, not really. Tyler, are you easy to get along with in other parts of your life? Yeah, yeah. You think that's just natural for you. It's not a thing you're trying to do. Yeah. It's interesting. You told me in your intake form that you want to talk about hunting with type one. What are the challenges? How do you handle it when I'm sitting there hunting, or, I guess, anywhere quiet, but mainly hunting. Back when I was on the Omnipod, I was always terrified that it was just gonna start beeping. You don't want the deer to hear I don't want the deer to hear that. Oh, dear. Don't hear. Isn't that interesting? Like, you're like, I need to talk about, like, hunting with diabetes. And it's not about like I got low walking through the woods where it was tough, carrying snacks, or I didn't like testing my blood sugar when it was cold, it was like, just didn't want the game to get scared off by the beeping. Dude, you are chill as hell. You know that about yourself. You You're really relaxed, man, I'd like to be as relaxed as you are. You dating? Any, any people on your on the on the horizon there?

Tyler Hoskins 35:45
Not right now. Are you interested? I'm waiting until I can drive. How do you think that changes things? Don't want my parents to drive me to my date.

Scott Benner 35:53
It'll definitely change it. So when I say to you, are you dating? And you think, no, I'm not. But are you interested? You picture a person? Not really. No. Hasn't been one or two that you've been like, maybe this one.

Tyler Hoskins 36:07
I've had a couple like ideas, but not really. You ever talk to them? Yeah, I'm friends with quite a few, but quite a few, well, not quite a few.

Scott Benner 36:16
You're bragging, Tyler, it's okay. Quite a few. They're everywhere, just waiting for you to get a driver's license. Probably you think they're thinking of the same thing, like that guy starts driving and I'm I'm getting into this. No, no, Are you tall? Your voice makes me feel like you're tall. I'm like, 510 511 Yeah, you think you'll be taller than that? Every doctor

Tyler Hoskins 36:39
has told me a different thing. Some of them are saying, I'm going to keep growing. Some of them say, I stopped growing. We can

Scott Benner 36:45
figure it out. How tall is your father? Six foot and your mom is your mom over five nine. She's probably about 5859 Yeah, you might not get much taller. Sorry, man, this is tall enough. You're not trying to play basketball or hit a baseball or something like that. You'll be all right. Six foot is a good tight I bet you're taller than most people you meet, right? Yeah, for the most part, yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? I'm not that tall, and I'm five nine, and most of the people I meet I'm taller than, which freaks me out, because as soon as somebody, as soon as I meet somebody like, Who's taller, taller than me, I feel like a child, you know? I mean, like somebody six two walks in. I'm like, Oh, my God, I'm so short, but then most of my life, I'm taller than everybody else. It's interesting. I don't know. Do you care how tall you are? Not really. Ah, may I go over a scenario that we were talking about in my house the other day, sure, I said to the family, what percentage of your looks would you give up to be something else? And what would that something else be so like? What else about your visage, you know what I mean, the way you look, the way you are, etc. Would you like to be more muscular, taller, slender, like, whatever, like, if there's a thing you wanted to adjust, but you could only get it by giving up 10% of your good looks. Would you do it like? You'd be 10% uglier, Tyler, but then you would be the other thing that you want. Do you want anything badly enough to give that away? I would say no. Everyone said, No, really? Yeah, I have to tell you, man, I would for height. I don't know why. I wish I was a little taller. And I'm not handsome enough to give away 10% 10% would hurt me taller. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna lie to you. I'd be in a situation. You know what? I mean, yeah, you feel like that too. You feel like you can't, you can't afford to 10% Yeah. Who do you think could, this was the rest of our conversation. Like, what famous person could, like, lose 10% of their like, like, I don't know. Face value, I don't know, I don't know where to put this, because it's so stupid. Who could lose 10% and still be like, like, rock solid, still handsome. I always say Brad Pitt. I think Brad Pitt's a handsome man. Brad Pitt definitely could, right? Brad Pitt, yeah, dinner. Matt Damon, I bet he could. Yeah, I think heavier. Matt Damon, can't afford it. What do you think of that? Probably not these things you've ever thought of or No, no, not really, though. What do you think about when you're sitting around talking with your family and saying stupid to each other? It's

Tyler Hoskins 39:17
mainly just my sister staying random stuff, like yesterday, she brought up about primary colors, like, how you need the primary colors to make all the other colors, but she was trying to figure out how you get primary colors,

Scott Benner 39:33
like, what makes them? Yeah, well, you're making a point. I mean, I don't know how anything works, so that also isn't it strange, know that, um, different people see colors differently. Isn't that crazy?

Tyler Hoskins 39:47
I've actually seen this so I see less shades of like, red and less shades of blue than other people.

Scott Benner 39:56
No kidding, like somebody says you This is like dark red, and you go, No, it's not.

Tyler Hoskins 40:00
In art class one time, we were blending reds together, and to me, it looked like just red and then light red. Everybody else

Scott Benner 40:11
saw contrast and like, different everything, right? Like it just they looked much different to them, more like a rainbow of reds. Yeah, and you only saw two. Well, that's interesting, isn't it? Do you wear glasses? I do interesting your whole life, not my whole life, not your whole life. I started around like fifth grade. I think when you start dating, do you think it's going to be difficult to explain type one to people, do you think you won't even bother like, how do you imagine? Like, you know, I mean, like, I didn't ask you, but girls or boys? What's your preference? Girls? All right, so you see a girl and you're like, right on this is the one I'm gonna focus all of Tyler's energy on trying to get this girl to go to a movie with me, or whatever it is you kids do now, okay? And like, you saunter up to her and you're like, Listen, I got my license now, and I'm thinking, maybe you and I would you be interested? Like, whatever you end up saying. Assumption is, the girl knows you have diabetes already, right? Most people I talk to are, you know, right? And so she says, yes, we want to go. Awesome. We're making a plan. Is it more like, does it turn into hunting? Do you start thinking like, I don't want this thing beeping while I'm technically you are hunting now you're trying to get this girl to like your you know what I mean? Try to try to get her to like you would. Do you think you'd go to efforts to quiet the diabetes? Do you see that you would maybe ignore it a little bit in front of her to keep it from being focused? Or do you think you wouldn't care and you just do what you need to do. I

Tyler Hoskins 41:43
wouldn't really ignore it, but if it were going to, like, a movie theater, I would be a little conscience of it, beeping, yeah, but like, if we're out to dinner or something, it can be not a really big issue there. So

Scott Benner 41:56
you're not worried that she hears it, this pretend girl we're making up. You're not worried that she hears it. You'd be just worried that you wouldn't want it to just like in any other situation. You wouldn't want it to bother people. Yeah, okay, so you're not embarrassed at all about your diabetes. No, right? And this girl pre dates in says, Hey, listen, you're cool and all. And I enjoyed the Superman movie we saw, you know, like, or whatever, and that's all good, but diabetes things freaking me out. I can't do this anymore. Do you think you'd be like, Oh, then you don't like me if you don't like that and right on. Or do you think it would hurt you if somebody said that to

Tyler Hoskins 42:33
you? I had a friend who started out like that, like he's terrified of needles, so he's better now, but one time I got him to put on one of my G sixes that absolutely terrified him. But after that, he seemed less How do I say this? Less scared of needles.

Scott Benner 42:59
Okay, Tyler, I might not have asked my question. Well, if that was your answer, so let me try one more time. If you got rejected for having diabetes, do you think that would hurt your feelings?

Tyler Hoskins 43:08
I would say probably, since diabetes is a part of me, if you get me, you get diabetes with it, I'm not gonna like hide it because of you, but

Scott Benner 43:23
it's not you, though, like you, you have a distinction between the two of you. So if some, if some, like person was just like, Look, I'm not doing diabetes with a boyfriend. So no, I'm sure you'd be disappointed, yeah, but I don't know that, like I'm wondering, and I think your answer tells me your answer, which is, I think you'd be disappointed, but I don't think you'd be hurt by it. And if, if so, not for long, you have a really so you have a healthy outlook about yourself, which is, just tell us all how your parents raised you with that. Like, because I we'd all like to bottle that and give it to our children, like, like, why are you confident?

Tyler Hoskins 43:58
I guess my dad, he's just been diabetic ever since I was around way before that, and his diabetes has just always been there, right? Like, if I had a question about it, he'd answer it, but he wouldn't go and, like, try and hide it, I

Scott Benner 44:16
guess. Yeah, and he bagged your mom, right? So you gotta figure somebody out there is okay with it, yeah, do you ever think of it that way that they dated at some point? I don't like thinking of that. Yeah, I wouldn't want to, either I'm with you, but he did, like, right? Like, you know, your parents were out there, or maybe your dad bagged your mom, or your mom bagged your dad. I don't know how it went, but do you want to be married? Do you think, or is that a thing you don't think about? I mean, you're young. If you never thought about it, I wouldn't be

Tyler Hoskins 44:41
surprised. I would say I want to get married someday. Okay, you want to make a little

Scott Benner 44:46
baby with diabetes, because you're probably well on your way to it already. Do you? Have you ever thought about that?

Tyler Hoskins 44:51
That is one thing I'm scared of, is having a child with diabetes when I was diagnosed, I would be fine with having a child that was diagnosed. Around that age. My cousin, she was diagnosed when she was four.

Scott Benner 45:05
I feel like that would be hard to deal with. Changed my life. It's difficult. So, yeah, my daughter was two. She's 21 now that crazy. It's crazy to me. It's not crazy to you. Just just gave me a chill, though, if you had actual experience at the age, you feel like that would be okay, but anything that maybe would happen before you knew how to do this, you think that would scare you a

Tyler Hoskins 45:34
little bit like the child having experience with like in an understanding of diabetes, I think would really help.

Scott Benner 45:43
Yeah, yeah, I think so too. When you imagine a family, how many kids do you have? Like, 230, you better fix a lot of you better be fixing those airplanes with both hands. You're gonna get three. You think you'll be alright with the heat in Florida and the humidity. Past

Tyler Hoskins 45:57
couple weeks, it's actually been hotter here than it is where my brother is. This

Scott Benner 46:02
is the weirdest summer, isn't it? It is, yeah, so you're getting hot where you're at, yeah, we're getting rain. Like, it won't stop raining here. It won't rain here. No, I would love for you to have some because it doesn't usually rain here this much. And it's starting to get, like, a bit of a bummer. My son's like, you know, tries to go out and do something active on the weekends, on Saturday, and he's like, I can't even get outside. He's like, it won't stop pouring and like, thunder and lightning for days and days last week I was gone. I went on a cruise with a bunch of listeners. I was gone, and it was like, 105 degrees or something at home. And like, that doesn't happen in June where I live. You know what I mean? I'm telling you, I keep telling my wife, like, this is going to be like a weird weather summer. This is going to be one that's just oddly different than than others for a while. So it's dry and hot where you are, yeah, interesting. All right. You have any pets? I have one dog. We have like, six goats and four rabbits and handful of Barn Cats. So are you on a farm? I'd consider it a farm. Yeah. Do they? Do you guys work it? Is it like, does it make money? Not really. No. Is it supposed to and it doesn't. Or it's just like, you have a nice piece of property, and so you have a barn up on it, and you got some goats. I

Tyler Hoskins 47:24
think we were up to 30 goats at one point. That was when we were more in the money making side of it. But now we're just there to show the goats. We have two of them that are ours. The rest of them are somebody else's that we're just putting in our pasture, feeding them. And we get to show them

Scott Benner 47:41
somebody is boarding their goat with you. You're like an Airbnb for goats. Yeah, no kidding. When you had a ton of them, how do you make money with goats? You sell them,

Tyler Hoskins 47:50
yeah. So you would go and breed them, and then you would tell them, what's a goat worth? You know, we bought our two for, I think it was 300 a piece, and they were young, and the last ones left, and

Scott Benner 48:07
then you make a baby goat, I guess Tyler. I'm trying to ask you, what do you do with a goat? Do you milk it? Do you ride it? Do you I know you don't ride it. I'm just saying like

Tyler Hoskins 48:16
you don't milk some of them. You can, but our breed is more meat. Oh, oh, no kidding, people eat goat, yeah, oh, I didn't know that. How's it taste? It's like beef, but a little bit sweeter, really. Yeah,

Scott Benner 48:33
no, this at all. What kind of go there? Like a, I almost said a brand Tyler. I almost said a brand of goat. That's definitely not the right thing to say. But like, is there a type? Is there a certain type that are better for eating than others?

Tyler Hoskins 48:46
Yeah, so there's meat and there's dairy. That is, like, the most broad classifications of goats you can get. So you have the meat ones, which are they don't produce milk all the time. Only when they have young, when they have kids, is what they're called, yeah. And those ones, you can just eat the meat, okay. But then the dairy ones, those ones are used for their milk. If you've ever seen a dairy goat, they all look severely underfed

Scott Benner 49:17
because they're not okay, because they're always produced in the milk, and it takes a lot out of them. I guess they just don't have all that meat on them, a lot of meat on them. Okay, how often do you eat goat Do you think

Tyler Hoskins 49:29
right now? Not as much. But before, like goat tacos, those are really

Scott Benner 49:35
good. No kidding. Am I gonna call this episode goat tacos? Maybe? Well, that's interesting. I appreciate. Oh, by the way, there's some work being done on my done in my house, and the idea of being quiet, I don't think the guy completely understands. So you might hear some banging. Can you hear that? Yeah, yeah. He is nowhere near this room. Interesting. Sorry, though. Hold on a second. I have more goat questions, and I have another question too, but. Right? So you breed the goats. People buy the goats. Do they do people butcher them themselves? Or do you sell them? Butchers who sell the meat? We

Tyler Hoskins 50:08
don't sell the butchers, but we'll sell the people. Sometimes they'll give them to butchers. Sometimes they'll butcher them themselves. Sometimes they'll just raise them and show them,

Scott Benner 50:17
okay? And then they maybe breed their own goats and then sell theirs? Yeah, no kidding. I didn't know any of this was happening. Interesting. What's your father do for a living?

Tyler Hoskins 50:27
He started out as a paramedic, and then he moved to the dispatch side. Ended up being head of dispatch for quite a few years, and now he works at home and sells software to EMS companies. Okay? And your mom, does she have a job too? Yeah, she does ultrasounds for an OBGYN office. Oh,

Scott Benner 50:49
neat. That's cool. She gets to see baby, little babies, before they're born. Oh, that's nice. And you're gonna abandon them and go to Florida. Probably your sister's younger, right? She's older. Oh, she's older. Oh, you're the youngest, yep. Oh, no kidding. Oh, wow, are you? Are you sad that you might move away?

Tyler Hoskins 51:09
My mom's in Florida quite a bit, just because she has a house down there that she can go to.

Scott Benner 51:14
No kidding, everybody's living a better life than me, Tyler, that's what I'm hearing. Okay, so your mom's there pretty frequently. Yeah, all right. Will you live in that house when you go

Tyler Hoskins 51:23
down? He's offered me a room there whenever I want.

Scott Benner 51:28
Okay, nice. This is lovely. How's the learning to drive going? And do you worry about your diabetes while you're driving?

Tyler Hoskins 51:34
Driving? Now, I'm better at it than I was when I started out. Makes sense. I've really only had two encounters with diabetes while driving, and both the times my parents, they have to be with me when I'm driving, so they both have the follow up on me, so they noticed I was going low. I always keep glucose tabs in my car, yeah, so I just kept driving, and I wasn't at the point where I was low enough where I felt like I couldn't drive. Yeah, I was more at the point where I started getting just a little shaky. So I just ate some glucose tabs while driving, and I was fine. You

Scott Benner 52:15
were okay. Okay. Art doesn't get low very often at all, actually, but she does like everybody else. And the other day she texted me, it was like later at night, and we were all kind of just settling into bed. We settled in, I think she started to get a little lower. She left and went to the kitchen, and I got a text that said, Hey, can you come help me? I must be about to get low, because I swear I just saw a full on person walk past me, and there's no one here, and I'm freaked out. I was wondering if you would come down, and I was like, okay, Has that ever happened to you? Do you ever see things? No, not really. She never has either. It was a new thing. She never said that before. Was there actually a person? Or did she just see something? No, she didn't. There was no person. So I could read you the text, but hold on a second, then I have one last question for you. Let me see. Says, I fear my blood sugar is low because I swear I just saw a whole human being walk past me, and there's not a soul here. And now I'm freaked out. So it took me a second to get to her. She kept texting me, hey, I'm downstairs. In case you were wondering where I was, like, that kind of thing. Like, she's like, she was really, like, you come to me, please. Like, like, she got a little freaked out for a second. Anyway, my last question is, how do you end up on a podcast? Like, about this. Like, do you listen? Did your mom say hey, you should go on? Like, how do you end up being a guest?

Tyler Hoskins 53:39
So my mom started out listening to your podcast, and then I started listening to it, and it was at the end of one of your videos, and you said that if you want to apply, just apply here. So yeah, I decided, let's see if he'll let me in. Awesome. What made you want to come share mainly my unique experience with getting diagnosed. I've noticed, like a lot of people, their diagnosis isn't as fun as mine. I guess their diagnosis is just them ending up in the hospital. I can't believe

Scott Benner 54:12
you called it fun. Tyler, you have a unique personality. Like, you're very, like, just upbeat about things. It's interesting. Like, I mean, you don't know that about yourself, because it's how you are. But like no one's ever said to me, I don't believe you know, I have a fun diagnosis story. So what I take away from this, more than anything, is that you're not burdened by this at all, really. Nope, yeah. Well, that's awesome. I hope that stays like that for you forever. You know, that's really interesting, and I'm happy that you came on to share, because, you know, we don't get as many kids. I know you probably feel older than like, it probably feels weird me calling you a kid, especially after we just talked about eating them. But still, like, you know, I really do appreciate you doing this, and I do hope people hear your story and and take something from it, and I hope what they take from it is, like, your attitude, honestly. Yeah, look at you. You're not scared to move away. You're not scared to go to the heat. You're active, not active. Swim, don't care. Switched pumps. All casual. No, no. Like, oh no. I, you know how many people come on and, like, I switched pumps and it was horrible. Or, like, I want to do something, but I can't. Or, like, it's you just, you know, dude, good for you, man. I hope this lasts for you forever. I think it's going to serve you well in life. How about you? Where do you think you're going to be? Is it hard to picture your life? I know I said it was my last question, but at your age, is it hard to picture your life big, like time wise, or do you just kind of think about today, tomorrow and maybe a little ahead?

Tyler Hoskins 55:37
The hard thing is, I don't really know what I want to do. I have ideas, but I don't really know what I'm going to do. Yeah,

Scott Benner 55:47
well, I love the idea of the internship. It'll tell you, like, this is a thing I enjoyed or I didn't. Yeah, I'll tell you I've sent two kids off to college, and I think one of the craziest things we do, maybe as a society, is to ask a junior in high school to start thinking about what they want to do in college, if they're gonna go to college, and if not, what do you wanna do for a living? Who would know the answer to that question?

Tyler Hoskins 56:11
My school started making me do writing assignments about what I wanted to do when I was in sixth grade.

Scott Benner 56:18
Awesome. Yeah. I bet sixth grade you probably wanted to be a fireman, having to think about it's a great idea. Like, I like you thinking about it. I'm saying making a decision, especially if you're going away to college and you're like, hey, here's a commitment for years, a bunch of money. And, like, what happens if I get there and I'm like, this isn't right for me, or I did the wrong thing, or, you know, whatever, I want to pivot. Like, yeah, you're, you're locked in financially, you're, you're a little locked in with your time, right the way you're gonna go. I think it's, it's a good idea, man, because you can pivot easily. You know, if you come up with something like, I don't like this or I like this part of it, you can, you can move to it as you're learning. I think it's a great idea, yeah, yeah, awesome. I wonder where you'll end up be interesting. I don't think I'll be alive long enough to really find out I'm getting pretty old, but it is interesting just to see where people think they're going to go and where they end up, and do they end up there, or do they put themselves there? Is always an interesting perspective for me. But anyway, it's probably pretty boring for you. When you're 16, you're just trying to drive so you can ask a girl out. All right? Now we've talked all about it. Is there a girl in your head? Now? Not really, not really awesome. So then, if it's not one person, what is it you're looking for? Like, if I said, intelligence, kindness, looks, height, hair color, love of music, love of art. Like, what do you think's most important in a person that you'll enjoy being with

Tyler Hoskins 57:48
kindness and willingness to accept the fact that our child might be diabetic? Wow.

Scott Benner 57:55
Okay, so those are the two things that stick with you right now, kindness actually in both in both ways, it's nice, so you don't care, tall, short, thin, not thin. Red hair, black hair. None of that pops into your head. Not really interesting. All right, who's the most attractive famous person you can think of right now? Like visually attractive, Scarlet Johansson. Scarlett. Johansson, okay, all right, I'm with you. Little unique looking, right? She's curvy, right? Yeah, okay, you know she's short, right? That's okay with you. Is she super short? All actresses and actors are short. You could pick Tom Cruise up and throw him across the room if you wanted to. I knew he was short, yeah, but think about it, when he acts with what he's short when he's acting with women he's taller than them. Do you know what an apple box is? I don't. Okay, well, it's a box. Sometimes I've seen, like, pictures of Tom Cruise standing on things to act next to taller women. That interesting. Never think about that, right? All right. Scarlet, Joan, answer, so you'll be going to see Jurassic Park this week, if I can get someone to drive me, Tyler, ride one of the goats. Seriously, could you just, like, throw a saddle on it, and do you think you could handle it? I know it can't, Tyler, don't worry. I'm just kidding. Have you ever ridden a horse? I have not interesting me either. I think I'd probably die if I tried, don't you? I've

Tyler Hoskins 59:19
tried to ride a steer. I don't think that sounds smart. I couldn't get on it. Oh, did it care? This was one of our steers that we've owned since it was little. Oh, so it was kind of friendlier, a

Scott Benner 59:35
friendly steer. Yeah, gotcha. So you wanted to get on it, to steer it around, but you couldn't. Thank you. All right, that's it. I'm good. Hold on. One second for me.

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