#1871 Tough Love

Dakota returns after switching from the iLet to the Medtronic 780G. In a tough-love session, Scott helps Dakota realize his pump isn't the problem—his habits are.

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Key Takeaways

• Automated insulin delivery (AID) systems are powerful, but they still require user input; ignoring prompts or neglecting to announce meals will inevitably lead to erratic blood sugars.
• Constantly blaming the pump technology for poor outcomes often masks the real issue: avoiding the fundamental actions of diabetes management, such as pre-bolusing.
• A cycle of rebellion against diabetes—refusing to take action because you "don't want to be told what to do"—ultimately lets diabetes dictate your life through exhausting highs and lows.
• Taking proactive, offensive steps (like treating a mild low early or changing a site before bed) puts you in control, preventing much larger, more stressful problems later.
• It is essential to accept your reality and commit to consistent, small daily actions; doing the work isn't always fun, but it is the only reliable path to a healthy and happy life.

Resources Mentioned

• Tandem Mobi System
• Touched by Type 1
• Eversense 365 CGM
• US Med
• Juice Box Podcast Website (Small Sips, Grand Rounds, Pro Tip Series)
• Wrong Way Recording

FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Introduction and Sponsors

Scott Benner (0:00)

Welcome back, friends, to another episode of the Juice Box podcast.

Dakota (0:11)

I'm Dakota, back on the podcast again, to tell everyone my experience with the Medtronic seven eighty g.

Scott Benner (0:22)

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Scott Benner (1:19)

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Scott Benner (1:41)

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Scott Benner (2:09)

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Pump Transitions: From iLet to Medtronic

Dakota (2:31)

I'm Dakota.

Back on the podcast again to tell everyone my experience with the Medtronic seven eighty g.

Scott Benner (2:41)

Okay.

Dakota, you were on before.

Do you know the episode you were on?

Dakota (2:46)

It was fourteen ten, I wanna say.

Scott Benner (2:48)

Look at you.

I like that you know.

Thank you.

Let me see if I can pull up fourteen ten real quick.

And I will use my very own website for that.

Scott Benner (2:57)

Search the archive.

Fourteen ten.

Islet user experience.

Yep.

Dakota moved from from Omnipod five to Islet, and now I guess you went from Islet to?

Dakota (3:11)

Mini med Medtronic seven eighty g.

Scott Benner (3:14)

What precipitated your change?

Dakota (3:17)

I was getting lots of, rapid swings with the an unpredictability with the eyelet.

Scott Benner (3:27)

Give me some examples.

Dakota (3:31)

Just I mean, same with, like, the Omnipod that we had talked about in the last episode.

400 to 40 in the same day.

I let sometimes I was waking up with, like, 17 units on board.

I didn't know what to what to expect with it.

Like, what was it gonna do next?

Scott Benner (3:50)

Okay.

Dakota (3:50)

It's kind of where it had gotten to.

I'd done a couple resets to try to let the algorithm relearn me.

Scott Benner (3:59)

Mhmm.

Dakota (4:01)

But it always ended up in the same place.

Scott Benner (4:04)

Okay.

So now you're using the seven eighty g?

Dakota (4:09)

Yep.

Scott Benner (4:09)

Okay.

Has this been any different for you?

Dakota (4:12)

Yeah.

I have more control with the seven eighty g.

Absolutely.

Yes.

Scott Benner (4:18)

Is it still similar to this experience you were having in the the last two iterations?

Dakota (4:23)

No.

No.

But I have issues with basal rising overnight

Scott Benner (4:29)

Okay.

Dakota (4:30)

With the seven eighty g.

Scott Benner (4:32)

So if you don't mind, let's start with the islet pump, and then we'll go to this transition.

Dakota (4:38)

Okay.

Scott Benner (4:39)

Okay.

So how do you get trained for the islet pump?

Dakota (4:45)

I let's see.

It was a video call, between me, the trainer, and the diabetic educator at, the office Okay.

That I was being seen at.

Scott Benner (4:58)

And what's the promise of that pump when they're describing to you how it works and what you should expect?

What did you initially think was going to happen?

Dakota (5:05)

I wouldn't have to think about diabetes anymore.

Scott Benner (5:08)

Okay.

That didn't turn out to be the case?

Dakota (5:11)

Did it at first, and then it and then I started having to wonder what was gonna happen next.

Scott Benner (5:17)

Okay.

So at first, what was your so your initial experience with Ilet was what?

Dakota (5:22)

It was good.

I didn't have to carb count.

I announced my meals, and it did a pretty good job of keeping me in range, between seventy and eighty percent of the time.

Scott Benner (5:33)

Okay.

And what range is it shooting for?

Dakota (5:36)

One ten, was my target.

Scott Benner (5:39)

The target was one ten.

But what what did you call low, and what would you call high?

Dakota (5:43)

75 to one eighty.

Scott Benner (5:45)

Okay.

And so you think you were 70 or 80% of the time in that range?

Dakota (5:49)

Yes.

Scott Benner (5:50)

Okay.

With the islet initially.

Now when it started to change, did something change about your life?

Did your activity level change?

Did anything else?

The Real Issue: Rebellion and Routine

Scott Benner (5:57)

Did you the way you ate shift?

Dakota (5:59)

Yeah.

My life changed.

Diagnosed with ADHD, forgetting to announce meals would start becoming an issue.

Okay.

My eating habits had changed.

Dakota (6:13)

I I still struggle with some disordered eating.

Scott Benner (6:17)

So can you put that into words for me?

Describe how it impacts you?

What happens?

Dakota (6:23)

I don't really I try not to think about it, so I don't even really know how to, like, explain it into words.

But I want to eat what I want to eat, and I don't like having people dictate that.

And I don't like the carb count.

So I think that's where the issue comes together.

It's all eat these things, full packages of stuff sometimes, and I won't count the carbs.

Dakota (6:48)

And if the machine any machine doesn't know

Scott Benner (6:53)

It's not gonna know what to do if you don't tell them.

Dakota (6:55)

Into your body exactly.

Scott Benner (6:56)

So yep.

Let me just ask you a question.

Okay?

Yep.

You don't want anybody to tell you what to do.

Scott Benner (7:01)

And when that happens, it feels like what?

Diabetes is telling you what to do or your doctor is or your mom or like what's the vibe?

Diabetes.

Diabetes.

Okay.

Scott Benner (7:09)

So diabetes wants you to do something and you're saying, fuck you.

I'm not doing what you tell me.

You're that, you're that song.

The Rage Against the Machine song.

What's it called?

Dakota (7:20)

Is it Bulls Against Parade?

Scott Benner (7:21)

It's the other one.

I don't think it's Bulls Against Parade.

I think it's the, I think, I don't know.

That's not important.

And so, like, you you you say, fuck you.

Scott Benner (7:28)

I'm not I won't do what you tell me.

And and that's some sort of defiance that you think you have built in with your ADHD, or where do you think that comes from?

Dakota (7:36)

I feel like I've been growing up more in, like, becoming an adult.

So I think the last time we talked, I was 27.

I'm gonna be turning 29 soon.

Scott Benner (7:45)

Mhmm.

Dakota (7:45)

And just with that comes

Scott Benner (7:50)

The feeling like you're gonna have to do it?

Dakota (7:52)

Yeah.

Scott Benner (7:53)

Okay.

So my question would be, all the stuff that's coming from not doing the things that you're supposed to be doing, are you happy that those they have like, is is it is it like a is it a net positive?

Like, well, I my blood sugar's high and it's low, but I didn't do what I was told by diabetes.

So it's a trade I'm willing to make or no?

Dakota (8:12)

See.

And that's how I felt at first, but now I'm wanting to gain that control back.

Scott Benner (8:18)

Okay.

Because if you wanna do what you wanna do, then and and trust me, I'm not in your head, so I have no idea.

But then isn't this as simple as you deciding that this is what you want?

And then instead of diabetes telling you what to do, aren't you telling yourself to do that?

And then isn't that okay?

Dakota (8:35)

I feel guilty about doing it.

Scott Benner (8:38)

Okay.

How come?

Dakota (8:40)

Because I know it's not the right decision.

Scott Benner (8:42)

Wait.

So to start over, you feel guilty about doing what?

Dakota (8:45)

Letting my blood sugar go high.

Scott Benner (8:47)

You feel guilty about letting your blood sugar go high.

So you're having this situation where you don't wanna be told what to do.

You're happy to not do it because that's you being independent or, you know, in control or whatever.

And then the outcome is the higher blood sugar, and then you feel guilt around that.

Dakota (9:08)

Yeah.

I don't like the outcome.

Scott Benner (9:10)

So you caught in a cycle?

Dakota (9:12)

It feels like it.

Scott Benner (9:13)

Okay.

What do you think the simplest break to the cycle is?

You know what mean?

Like, you're gonna swing at that circle to try to put a put a break in it, like, what's the thing that would be easiest for you to, I don't know, make a make an agreement with?

Dakota (9:28)

The easiest thing to make an agreement with.

Scott Benner (9:31)

Because you've already told me you don't wanna be high.

Like, you're here telling me my blood sugar's swinging all over the place.

This isn't okay.

So that's you saying that something that impacts that

Dakota (9:43)

Needs to change.

Scott Benner (9:44)

Need well, it needs to change or or you need to let it change because you're I mean, honestly, you're I've talked to you now once and and again, you're a bright person.

You know what I mean?

Like, you're trying really hard for yourself.

Like, you're putting a ton of effort into all this.

You must know, like, intellectually, like, it wouldn't take this much effort to just do it right.

Dakota (10:04)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Exactly.

And, like, sometimes I'll be at work, and I won't I'll be ignoring the fact that I'm, like, going low because I'm so busy.

Mhmm.

Dakota (10:14)

And, I'll dismiss the alarm.

You know, I'm not low low yet.

Still above 70.

Whatever.

Go on.

Dakota (10:24)

It starts cutting off.

And it starts holding back the insulin, right, as the algorithms do.

And then it's time for lunch, and I haven't had any insulin flowing for a while now.

And then I go to eat, and my blood sugar skyrockets Mhmm.

Even with a pre bolus.

Dakota (10:43)

That constantly happens, and then I'm thinking, well, if I would have just dealt with it in the moment, taking a couple glucose tabs, this wouldn't have happened.

Scott Benner (10:53)

Right.

So tell me what what's the human part of it that makes that undoable?

Is it the feeling that your body doesn't work the way it's supposed to and you don't want to you don't wanna live in a world where that's true?

Or

Dakota (11:06)

Yeah.

Yeah.

In I I mean, I went twenty five years without having diabetes.

Scott Benner (11:12)

Yeah.

Dakota (11:12)

It's yeah.

I still remember that very well.

Scott Benner (11:16)

I don't wanna do this.

I don't wanna do this.

I don't wanna do this.

Yep.

Yep.

Scott Benner (11:20)

So life, like, shifts.

Right?

Like, it changes.

And I realized that this is a big change that comes out of nowhere, and it's not a slow drift into something.

You're okay one day, and the next day, you need to, you know, give yourself insulin through a pump fifteen minutes before you eat.

Scott Benner (11:40)

And that's a it's not the same as, you know, a a slow kind of glacial shift that happens with a lot of things in life.

Do you believe life would be finite?

Do you think you're gonna die one day and that's gonna be it for you?

Dakota (11:50)

Yes.

Scott Benner (11:51)

You do.

Okay.

So do you see what I'm gonna say next?

You only have so much time.

Dakota (11:58)

Yes.

Yeah.

Scott Benner (11:59)

Why are you wasting it on this?

Just when you're 70, just take some sugar.

We and then all that comes after that is is dismissed.

It's gone.

It never happens.

Scott Benner (12:10)

Like, you have there's all this consternation about, you know, I know I'm low.

I don't wanna do what I don't wanna do.

This isn't fair.

I shouldn't have diabetes, so I don't do it.

So I get low.

Scott Benner (12:19)

My system's been cutting off my insulin for a while.

Then I eat.

My blood sugar shoots high.

I fight with that for three or four hours.

I probably get low afterwards.

Scott Benner (12:28)

Then I go on a podcast to tell people the pump doesn't work.

Pump but pump works fine, by the way.

You're you're you're Yes.

You're not helping it.

Yeah.

Scott Benner (12:34)

Yeah.

All all of them.

I don't know.

I mean,

Dakota (12:37)

you know, and and then I'm then I'm like,

Scott Benner (12:38)

well, I'll try this pump.

By the way, this thing you're doing, super common.

I see it online all the time.

I got a tandem pump.

It sucks.

Scott Benner (12:45)

I got Omnipod five, but that sucks.

So I'm trying this and this sucked and that sucks and this sucks.

Do you pre bowls?

No.

Do you stop low blood sugars?

Scott Benner (12:52)

No.

Do you know what just happened?

Yeah.

How come you don't do it differently?

It's the pump.

Scott Benner (12:57)

The pump sucks.

It's not

Dakota (12:59)

the pump.

We want the we want the pump to fix it.

Scott Benner (13:01)

Yeah.

It's not going to.

Dakota.

Yeah.

That that's not gonna happen.

Dakota (13:06)

And for some reason, like, even when you know that, it still feels like that's the impression that they're trying to

Scott Benner (13:11)

Well, that's marketing.

Dakota (13:12)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Scott Benner (13:13)

Yeah.

Okay.

That's what's his jingle behind you?

Is there a cat behind you?

What's happening?

Dakota (13:20)

Oh.

What was that?

Was that you or was it was it in here?

It's it's the cords on my Oh, okay.

Head's going to hit my neck.

Scott Benner (13:26)

I thought your I thought your cat was running through the room with a bell around its neck like it was 1947.

So, I mean, your conversation really to me is more about this.

I bet you any of these pumps would work fine for you.

And so you're looking for the one that most ignores the fact that you have diabetes and still gives you reasonable outcomes where you're not high or low?

Dakota (13:44)

Yeah.

And works with the way I want my lifestyle to be.

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Scott Benner (13:50)

Do you see that existing somewhere?

Peggy, maybe you're here to tell me the mini made seven eighty g fixed the whole thing.

It's all perfect.

Is that true?

No.

Scott Benner (13:58)

Okay.

Well, then so you want your lifestyle to be a certain way, but you're, can I talk to you like we're like, I'm your dad for a second?

But yes.

But okay.

Dakota (14:08)

Yes, please.

To go to the consumer.

Somebody needs to.

But

Scott Benner (14:13)

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Yeah.

Real Solutions: Taking Action and Making a Plan

Scott Benner (16:31)

Yeah.

So if you've given away four years to, like, this isn't right.

It shouldn't be like this.

Damn it.

Like, somebody fix it.

Scott Benner (16:38)

I mean, yes, it's a lot of effort you would have put into it, but it wouldn't have been four years worth of effort.

I mean, I genuinely believe that when you make meaningful actions upfront, you cut out a lot of unnecessary problems in the back end that also need your your time and attention.

And then worse, put you in situations where your blood sugar's low or high.

Like, wouldn't you rather make small meaningful, like, steps a handful of times a day and then avoid those lows and those highs and eating when you don't want to and being you know what I mean?

Like, it's a psychological thing, Dakota.

Scott Benner (17:11)

It's got nothing to do with diabetes or the pump or anything else.

Like, there's something inside of you that says I mean, it's well, I don't want it to be this way.

And if it's gonna be, then it's gonna be a mess, and then I'll blame diabetes afterwards.

But and maybe that's true, by the way.

Maybe diabetes did put you in this situation.

Scott Benner (17:30)

I'm not saying that's not the case.

What I'm saying is it doesn't change the reality or what your life is like day to day or, you know, time after time.

But by the way, time goes very quickly.

You know.

Yes.

Scott Benner (17:41)

Like, you know, you're gonna be 40 before you know it.

Do you really wanna be a 40 year old guy on a 70 year old guy's podcast talking about, like, I tried the the Maximus nine pump, but it didn't do it.

And I'm over here going, like, sleeping because I can barely stay awake.

I don't know how to describe to you what to do.

It's not me.

Scott Benner (17:59)

If I had diabetes, I think I'd even know less.

Like, all I can tell you is that the simple principles that run a reasonable life will run a reasonable life with diabetes too.

Absolutely.

You listen to the podcast a lot.

Right?

Dakota (18:13)

No.

I don't listen to any podcast as much as I used to in the past.

Scott Benner (18:16)

But you have listened to this podcast a lot at some point.

Okay.

Yes.

My point is is that I only talk about diabetes and but just basically, like, a reasonable way that you would talk about anything else.

You know?

Scott Benner (18:27)

Like, I don't know.

Your laundry.

You can either do a little bit of laundry every couple of days or once every two weeks, look in your room and go, oh my god.

What happened?

And then spend two days doing the laundry being mad at yourself the whole time.

Scott Benner (18:42)

Like, that's it.

It's like pre bolus.

Don't be mad at yourself later.

Do a little laundry today.

Take it out of the dryer.

Scott Benner (18:48)

Fold it up.

Put it away.

Do it again in three or four days.

It takes five minutes of effort to put it in the laundry machine.

It takes twenty minutes of effort to fold it up.

Scott Benner (18:57)

And three days, you don't think about your laundry.

Or spend the next ten days staring at the pile of laundry in your room loathing yourself for not doing it.

It's life.

It it applies to everything.

Change the oil in your car before your car stops working.

Scott Benner (19:10)

That's all.

If you don't, the motor blows up, and then it costs you $8,000 to put a new motor in your car.

And the whole time you're driving it, you're worried.

I think the car is gonna blow up.

I don't know how to pay for the $8,000 when the motor goes.

Scott Benner (19:21)

I don't know where to take it to get it fixed.

I oh my god.

I can't afford this.

I might be just needing a car.

I can't afford a new car.

Scott Benner (19:27)

What did I do?

Why didn't I just change the oil?

Oh my god.

Oh my god.

Like, just don't do it.

Scott Benner (19:31)

It never happens.

Dakota (19:33)

Deal with it now.

Scott Benner (19:34)

Yeah.

Do it now.

When the bills come, Dakota open them.

Even if you don't have the money, open the envelope up and say, fair's fair.

I owe a $180 to the electric company.

Scott Benner (19:44)

At least I know when it's out in the open.

Rather than let the the bill sit on your countertop for a month mocking you.

By the way, it could be it could be $75 this month.

You don't know.

You haven't looked at it.

Dakota (19:56)

Exactly.

So now

Scott Benner (19:57)

you're just worrying about it for no reason.

Does any of this make sense?

Dakota (20:00)

Yes.

No.

It all makes sense.

And I even

Scott Benner (20:02)

want to grow up in the jungle.

What happened?

Dakota (20:05)

I had parents.

I don't know.

Scott Benner (20:08)

It's tough.

Did they yell at you?

They should have yelled at you more.

I would have yelled at you.

No.

Scott Benner (20:16)

So seriously, like, you're how old did you say?

Dakota (20:20)

I'll be 29 in a month.

You'll

Scott Benner (20:22)

be 29 in a month.

Okay.

When I was 29, I had a baby and I owned a house.

You can just jump into life and start doing it.

It doesn't get harder or easier.

Scott Benner (20:35)

It's all the same.

But one way you're moving forward and one way you're sitting still waiting for everything to be perfect before you move forward.

There is no perfect and time is going to move with you even if you don't move with time.

So just get up tomorrow and do it, and you're not gonna enjoy it.

It's not fun.

Scott Benner (20:56)

Let me tell you some other things that aren't fun.

Watching Bear in the Big Blue House is not fun, but I have done it 500 times in my life because my six month old liked it when it was on the television in the background when he was eating.

And then he got older, then he was singing the songs.

You know, the songs to go to welcome welcome welcome to the big blue.

I know it.

Scott Benner (21:19)

I could sing.

Dakota (21:19)

I used to watch that show a lot.

Scott Benner (21:21)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

And and you were a kid when you watched it.

I was an adult.

Scott Benner (21:25)

I was not interested in bearing the big blue house.

Here's other things I was not interested in, putting down a manolium floor in a kitchen.

I was not interested in buying a hot water heater for a condo that I knew I wasn't gonna live in much longer.

I wasn't interested in saving money.

I wasn't interested in buying tires.

Scott Benner (21:41)

I'm not interested in cutting the lawn.

I'm not interested in dusting, mopping, doing the dishes.

I'm not interested in most of the fucking things that I do.

But my life is better because I do them, and it gives me a lot of free time where I can do what I want, and I'm not busy loathing myself for not doing those things because it's going to happen one way or the other.

You either deal with it and make the best of it and not in a sad way, like, well, I'll just make the best of it.

Scott Benner (22:08)

Like, literally, make the have a nice life or sit here and wring your hands about it and blame other stuff and watch your life go by.

It's pretty much it.

We don't need to keep talking if you don't want to.

This is good.

But you probably should make a plan if that's what you wanna do.

Dakota (22:26)

Yeah.

No.

I wanna start making changes for sure.

Scott Benner (22:28)

Yeah.

And they're not changes really.

I I know it's easy to think about it that way.

I'm not a therapist, by the way.

This is very important for people to understand.

Scott Benner (22:35)

And I'm sure a therapist wouldn't talk to you like this because they probably have rules and laws and stuff like that.

You already know what to do.

Just get your shit together this afternoon.

Get your blood sugar stable.

Wake up in the morning.

Scott Benner (22:46)

Pre bolus your meal.

And then don't get high or low afterwards.

And if you do, do something about it before it becomes a problem.

Right?

Like, you know, did you ever listen to the pro tip series?

Dakota (22:57)

Yes.

Scott Benner (22:58)

Yeah.

Right?

Don't go driving off the road into the weeds across the rumble strip down the hill and then decide to turn back over.

Just like, oh, I think I'm going off the road now, then just turn the wheel back a little bit.

Just small deliberate decisions that stop you from plowing through a tree and brush and everything else.

Scott Benner (23:17)

Like, you are the master of your domain.

Your life will go the way you want it to.

You know, mostly speaking, I can't give you more money or a different house or something like that.

But, like, where within the the ecosystem that you live in right now, it goes good or it doesn't based on the decisions you make every day.

And that's it.

Scott Benner (23:37)

Like, that's life, man.

See, it's not exciting and it's certainly not the way you imagined it.

You know, I don't think you and I are ever gonna be ASAP Rocky rolling up to the Met Gala with Rihanna as much as we'd like to.

I I'm only speaking for myself, I guess, at this moment, but I would love to be, with Rihanna.

And I'd like to have a big ring on my hand that looks like it costs as much as a mountain if I would, you know, if you could buy a mountain.

Scott Benner (23:59)

But that's not that's not my life.

Like, my life is this.

I make this podcast.

I keep my house clean, take care of my kids.

I do the laundry.

Scott Benner (24:07)

I go away once in a while.

Not really as much as I want to.

And when I don't go away as much as I want to, I'm not mad at everybody.

That's just what it is.

Like, there's a simplicity in that.

Scott Benner (24:19)

I think you would find a lot of common, and you're young still.

Like, you could look up six months from now and be like, I can't believe I was doing all that and it could just be over.

Yeah.

You know?

Mhmm.

Scott Benner (24:30)

What are some of the things you imagine are stopping you from doing this?

Is there maybe ways we could talk about mitigating those?

Dakota (24:37)

Yeah.

I have trouble accessing food affordably.

Scott Benner (24:40)

Okay.

Dakota (24:41)

So that becomes an option or an issue where, try to only eat two meals a day.

Okay.

Scott Benner (24:49)

What what do you end up eating?

Dakota (24:50)

A large amount of protein, rice, and frozen vegetables most of the time as a meal.

Scott Benner (24:55)

Do you find yourself being hungry, or do you just feel like you're not eating as much as you're supposed to be?

Dakota (25:00)

I find myself being hungry, but I'm so busy throughout the day.

It's easy to ignore it.

Scott Benner (25:04)

Okay.

Alright.

So it's not you wouldn't call that a pressing issue that's stopping you from succeeding?

Dakota (25:11)

No.

And yes.

Scott Benner (25:13)

Tell me why yes.

Dakota (25:14)

Some of the foods I am able to get are very processed and high in carbs and not good for you.

Scott Benner (25:20)

Mhmm.

Dakota (25:21)

So sometimes that's the only option that I have at that moment.

Scott Benner (25:26)

But, Dakota, are you also not pre bolusing for those foods?

Dakota (25:30)

And I don't know how many carbs are in them because they're from a bakery, like a local bakery without a label.

Scott Benner (25:36)

Okay.

Okay.

So then that's something to work on because the rest of it's like, the rest of it's not cool.

And if we were if this was a, you know, a social studies class and we were talking about how to make the world better, then we would dig into this.

But what I would tell you is this is your situation, so you have to figure out how to make the best of that situation.

Scott Benner (25:58)

Yeah.

Don't don't tell me, you know, I can't be healthy because I have to shop at a bakery.

Tell me I have to shop at the bakery, so I gotta figure out what to do about that.

Right?

Like, there's there's meaningful steps to take that will help you in every aspect of life, not just in this.

Scott Benner (26:15)

You know, there are plenty of people who have terrible lives and they are still alive and they're still moving.

It's not optimal and it's certainly not what they want for themselves and it may not be what society would want for them if we were looking in on them and we were like, oh gosh, I don't want that to happen.

But there, those people are anyway figuring out how to get by.

And, you know, in 2026, you have an insulin pump, you have insulin, you do have access to food, like you're eating twice a day, which is probably more than most people around the world eat.

Not to say, like, you know, because there's poor people other places that your thing's not real, but I'm saying that your thing seems manageable.

Scott Benner (26:51)

It seems doable.

I would suggest to you that I don't know what it is about me that makes me feel this way, the way I grew up or experiences I had or whatever.

And I don't know how to pass this on to you, but I will pass the idea on to you.

That unless you're dead, everything should be negotiable.

You should be able to figure your way through things.

Scott Benner (27:09)

It's not gonna be what you want.

It won't be what you like.

It might not be comfortable.

It might not be something that other people would be like, wow, look at this.

This is fun to look at.

Scott Benner (27:18)

But it's still doable for you.

And I imagine if you put a lot of those things in order, yours your situation could rise up to begin with because you're spending a lot of time fighting against reality, and I would imagine feeling bad for yourself while you're doing it.

Dakota (27:33)

Yes.

Scott Benner (27:34)

Yeah.

And I'm sorry for you.

Like, I'm I'm not without compassion, and I certainly don't want you to live or anybody to live in a situation where they don't feel like they can put their hands on the right amount of food every time or that their situation sucks and, you know, you look online or, you know, out in the world and you see people driving cars you can't afford and living in houses you, you know, you don't think you're ever gonna live in.

But if you ask anybody how to be wealthy one day, they're gonna start anybody who knows how

Scott Benner (28:04)

to make money is gonna tell you about compound interest.

Right?

They're gonna tell you about the value of I mean, I don't know exactly what the number is, but, like, if you put a thousand dollars away right now, thirty years from now would probably be, like, a million bucks or something like that.

Like, you you know that thing about, like, if you fold over a piece of paper a certain amount of times it goes to the moon?

Yep.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Scott Benner (28:20)

That.

Okay.

So one small decision, right, can exponentially grow.

And I think that that works too with health decisions or mindset or stuff like that.

Like, I think you just start building.

Scott Benner (28:36)

You just start taking that piece of paper and fold it in half.

And tomorrow, it's two times as thick as it was today, and then do it again.

Now it's four times as thick as it was on the first day.

Just keep making small good decisions.

And when you forget to fold the piece of paper in half one day, don't spend the next week and a half beating yourself up about it and doing that thing that people go, well, next Monday, we'll start folding the paper again.

Scott Benner (29:00)

Next Monday, it's Tuesday.

What what it it's just an excuse.

It's like, oh, I forgot.

I'm supposed to do it every day, and I didn't do it on Monday, so I don't have to do it again till next Monday.

It's it's not that's not true.

Scott Benner (29:10)

Just do it again at the next meal.

Just fold the damn piece of paper in half now.

You you missed a little time.

It's no big deal.

It becomes a big deal when you wait a week because then a week goes by and you think, well, I waited a week.

Scott Benner (29:20)

I can wait a month.

I'll start pre bolsing around.

How about after Christmas?

Ever hear somebody say that?

I'm gonna eat better after Christmas.

Scott Benner (29:28)

They'll say that in August.

They're like, yeah.

I wanna get through the summer first.

And then I get through the summer.

I don't wanna start right away because Halloween, you you know, and then and then then there's Thanksgiving and then Christmas and New Year's.

Scott Benner (29:38)

I could probably just start after New Year's.

And then six weeks later, it's Valentine's Day.

And then it's Easter.

I I I'm gonna have candy on Easter.

I have candy on Valentine's Day.

Scott Benner (29:48)

Well, you know what?

You know, we'll get going in the spring.

Spring will be a good time.

Oh, I gotta take my mom out for Mother's Day.

You know, I'll probably just oh, yeah.

Scott Benner (29:54)

It's summertime picnics.

Woo.

And then the next thing you know, it's like, well, maybe in the fall.

And you're doing that with your diabetes.

A lot of people are.

Scott Benner (30:05)

And you're either gonna do it or you're not.

I had an experience that I I sort of don't wanna talk about in great detail, but I was around a group of people with diabetes recently.

A lot of there was a lot of people there, and we spent a lot of time together.

And a couple of them had issues.

One with a high blood sugar, one with a low blood sugar.

Scott Benner (30:24)

And then I watched the person with the high blood sugar not know what to do about it even though they had had diabetes for, you know, more than a handful of years.

I watched the person with a low blood sugar panic about a number I wouldn't have panicked about, over treat it, then have to bolus later for it.

And then I looked around at the rest of the people in the in the area, I thought, I wonder how many of these other people are having issues that I'm just not aware of right now.

Is it some of them?

Is it all of them?

Scott Benner (30:52)

I wonder how many of them, if I took their graph right now, are are riding this, like, super flat line.

And how much of this is just personality?

Right?

Because in the end, if you if you took all of their diabetes care and gave it over to, you know, a third party that would make the good decision, the right decision at the right time, they would all probably be having better outcomes.

And these people seem, I know that some of these people, they're intelligent, like, they're bright people, they want well for themselves, like, why did they not do that right then and there?

Scott Benner (31:24)

And I don't know.

Like, I stood there and I I tried to decide, what leads one person in one direction and one person in another direction?

I have no idea.

All I can tell you for sure is you're paying attention to it.

You've now done 90% of the work because you're interested.

Scott Benner (31:40)

You know what I mean?

Like, you wouldn't be here if you weren't interested.

Dakota (31:44)

Right.

Scott Benner (31:44)

You agree?

Dakota (31:45)

Yeah.

Scott Benner (31:46)

Okay.

So if I ask you what's in the way, it would be beneficial if you didn't

Dakota (31:53)

say Yeah.

Scott Benner (31:54)

Yeah.

If you instead of telling me that you don't have access to good food, which sounds like something you heard on CNN, you would instead say, I don't make good decisions around the food I'm eating.

And, like and sometimes it's processed, but I don't pre bolus it.

And then I blame the food.

And then I blame my situation because I had to take the food and blah blah.

Scott Benner (32:12)

It's just you, man.

It's you.

Across the spectrum of your financial situation, we are all in a world of our making once we're in that world.

Now, we didn't make the world that we got put into.

You didn't give yourself diabetes, but here you are and there is no door.

Scott Benner (32:29)

So you're living in this world now.

Everything that comes after that is you.

You're born broke.

You didn't want that.

It's not your fault.

Scott Benner (32:37)

I understand.

But here you are.

You're born with a bunch of money.

You end up being a asshole.

Same situation.

Scott Benner (32:43)

You're making your own decisions.

And, you know, it's easy to look around and say, I wish things were like this or it's not fair, and you're not wrong.

I'm not gonna tell you you're wrong, that it's not fair that you have type one and other people don't.

It's could talk about it in the other direction, man.

It's insanely unfair.

Scott Benner (33:00)

And, I could cry about it with you right now if you wanted to too, and I would be I would be being a 100% honest with my feelings.

But that is just not the situation you're in, man.

You know what I mean?

You're that blonde guy.

You're up in space with that rock.

Scott Benner (33:15)

Just did you see the movie?

That project No.

That project.

Okay.

Well, you you you well, you opened your eyes and now you're in a tin can and you're floating through space.

Scott Benner (33:24)

What are you gonna do next?

You sit there and bitch about it or you're try to figure it out?

I mean, that's pretty much it.

Right.

You know?

Scott Benner (33:31)

So I don't know, man.

What do you think?

Is it doable?

Dakota (33:35)

Yeah.

Scott Benner (33:36)

How?

Todd, put it together for me.

Dakota (33:39)

Just making the right decisions repeatedly.

Yeah.

Well, what does that

Scott Benner (33:44)

mean though, day to day?

Like, put it into put it into context.

Dakota (33:47)

Prebolising.

Scott Benner (33:48)

Mhmm.

Dakota (33:50)

Taking care of the lows before they get too low.

Mhmm.

Scott Benner (33:54)

Stopping a high blood sugar before it happens.

It does get

Dakota (33:57)

too high, maybe lowering my high alarm.

Scott Benner (34:00)

Yeah.

Right.

Right.

If it does get high, don't stare at it for hours before you do something.

Dakota (34:05)

Yep.

Pretty much.

Change change out my sight before I go to bed instead of waiting till the morning when I know the absorption is an issue.

Scott Benner (34:14)

That's a great example of the bigger idea, which it's once you start going through these things, you're gonna see they're all the same thing.

It's all act first.

Right?

It's all like if you listen to that pro tip series, you heard me say at some point I used to do this when I was speaking in public.

Used to say this a lot.

Scott Benner (34:31)

I used to say, have you ever been in a fight?

And somebody would raise their hand.

And I'd say, okay.

Do you wanna get hit first?

Do you wanna hit them first?

Scott Benner (34:40)

And everybody who's been in the fight said, well, I would wanna hit first.

Like, yeah.

And you know why?

It's because then you dictate the pace of what happens next.

You're in charge.

Scott Benner (34:49)

You made a decision and now everything follows your decision.

When you get hit, now you're following the decision that that person made your you're gonna be on defense the entire time.

Put yourself on offense.

Just say to yourself, like, I'm gonna act.

My pod's gonna expire.

Scott Benner (35:05)

My set's gonna go bad at seven in the morning, but I could probably I'll probably wake up at seven.

And even if I don't like, even if it's, like, nine, it's okay.

Will only be without insulin for a couple hours.

So, like, it'll be like, don't do all that.

Just change the damn thing before you go to bed.

Dakota (35:19)

Yeah.

Scott Benner (35:20)

Yeah.

And, you know, because change your pod before you go to bed is the same as your blood sugar 70.

I could have just had some sugar right there.

Mhmm.

It's just deciding to do the thing that needs to be done at the right time instead of being put in a position where you're now forced to do a bunch of things at the wrong time, which ironically puts you in a much worse situation than you I wanna make sure I say this right.

Scott Benner (35:45)

You said earlier, I don't wanna be told what to do.

So I'm not going to change my let me let me speak it out for you.

I'm not gonna be told I don't wanna be told what to do.

I don't wanna have to change this pump site before I go to bed.

So that's me being told what to do by diabetes.

Scott Benner (35:59)

So I won't do it.

And instead, I'm gonna wake up in the morning with a high blood sugar.

I'm gonna be I'm not gonna feel well.

I'm gonna have to rush around.

But now think about that.

Scott Benner (36:08)

Now you're you have a high blood sugar.

Now you have to take care of the high blood sugar.

Now you have to change the pump, and you're not gonna have as easy of the time of changing the pump as you would have before.

You're now being told what to do by the problem.

Yep.

Scott Benner (36:21)

Right?

So there's diabetes and then the problem that comes later.

You feel like if I don't listen to diabetes, then I'll just deal with it.

But what I'm telling you is you're not listening to diabetes, so later you're just gonna have to listen to the problem.

The only control is acting before either of those things get a chance to hold power over you.

Scott Benner (36:39)

That makes sense?

Dakota (36:41)

Yes.

You can't hear me shaking my head.

Scott Benner (36:43)

Oh, okay.

Dakota (36:43)

But yeah.

I'm nodding.

Yes.

Thank God.

Scott Benner (36:45)

Can't hear you shaking your head, Dakota.

Can you imagine?

Dakota (36:49)

I was

Scott Benner (36:49)

like, what is that?

You'd like, those are the rocks in my head.

They're banging around.

You're also a very bright person.

You're a thoughtful, nice guy.

Scott Benner (36:55)

I've known you for a while now.

Do you know that about yourself?

Dakota (36:59)

Yeah.

You're not the only person who said that.

Scott Benner (37:01)

Yeah.

You're a lovely person.

So one should be lovely to yourself for a while.

Dakota (37:06)

I'm always about making other people happy before myself.

Scott Benner (37:09)

Well, Dakota, stop doing that.

Dakota (37:12)

I know.

And I feel like if I had, like, someone behind me, like, telling me to do these things, hey.

Change your pump.

You know?

Mhmm.

Dakota (37:20)

Get a glucose tablet.

I would do that for I do I would do that for

Scott Benner (37:23)

for them.

Just wouldn't do it for yourself.

Dakota (37:25)

Yeah.

Scott Benner (37:26)

Yeah.

Welcome to being human.

Now here's the rest of it.

Stop doing that.

Dakota (37:31)

I know.

Scott Benner (37:32)

Yeah.

I I mean, there's no magic.

Like, I know people are used to listening to podcasts where they bring on these experts.

I'm making quotes with my fingers.

They give you the plan.

Scott Benner (37:40)

You need a twenty one day plan to a new you, Dakota.

I mean, would that be better?

Do you wanna do you wanna buddy system?

You wanna get involved there?

Just shut up and fucking do it.

Scott Benner (37:49)

Okay?

Like, because the alternative is don't do it, live miserably, die.

How about do it, live happily, die?

It's a lot better.

You you know what I mean?

Scott Benner (37:58)

And and in the end, this is how it's gonna I mean, we're not and also, by the way, at your age, with the way things are going, you know, I I hate to say it like this, but a 100 be could become the new 80 in your lifetime.

You wanna be miserable for the next seventy years?

Dakota (38:13)

Oh, no.

I don't no.

An extra an extra 20?

Scott Benner (38:16)

Oh.

I noticed, like, 20 more.

Dakota (38:20)

I didn't sign up for that.

Scott Benner (38:21)

I can't even get through my twenties.

Now you're talking about twenty more years.

But you can.

Like, you are you are a person who is set up perfectly to be okay.

You're thoughtful.

Scott Benner (38:31)

You're bright.

You're motivated.

But you you just you grew up in a time where it's just, God, I don't wanna sound like this because I don't I don't know if I mean this completely yet, but and we are just talking it out, but I don't think enough bad shit happened to you.

Like, I think that you have an expectation for life that's reasonable if nothing goes wrong, but not and by the way, you would have found a different way to be disappointed because of the way your your generation grew up.

Like like, dude alright.

Scott Benner (39:00)

You ready?

Dakota (39:02)

Yes.

Lay it out.

Scott Benner (39:04)

I was born, and in short order, the woman who gave birth to me gave me away to the state of Pennsylvania.

And then someone adopted me.

And then those people thirteen years later, after fighting for most of my, you know, my recollection got divorced.

I was broke the whole time I've been alive.

Okay?

Scott Benner (39:28)

There is no money at all.

So my dad's yelling, smoking cigarettes, my mom's scared, doesn't wanna stick up for us.

My dad kicked the shit out of me every once in a while when he got frustrated, didn't seem like he liked the kid who, like, you know, had his own thoughts, leaves on my third on my thirteenth birthday.

Like, I'm telling you, we had dinner for my birthday and he left.

That was a lot, man.

Scott Benner (39:51)

That felt like that was my fault.

Later, my mom told me, well, she didn't tell me.

She was telling a friend on the phone and I overheard her that my dad said he left because of me.

Now my dad had been cheating on my mom for twenty years and was terrible person to her, but found a way to blame me when he got to open his mouth about it.

Wasn't his fault that he they weren't married anymore.

Scott Benner (40:15)

It was my fault.

So then I had to get through that.

And then I graduated from high school and I went to my high school graduation.

I came home.

My mom gave me a piece of cake, said good job, and I woke up at 05:00 in the morning and went to my full time job in a sheet metal shop that I had already been working for, like, the last three years in high school.

Scott Benner (40:36)

That day, as a reward for becoming a full time employee, my pay went from $4.50 an hour to $4.75 an hour.

I eventually moved it up to 5 an hour to go to.

I didn't have a car or money, so, my uncle gave me a car that didn't run.

I got it running even though I didn't have a father or any idea how to get it running.

And then I had to get a 3,000 a year insurance policy to drive the free car, but I made $4.75 an hour.

Scott Benner (41:05)

So the $3,000 was a large chunk of the money that I made every year just so I could go to work.

So you would say, well, why would you do that?

And what I would say was, I wanted to find out what was on the other side of this experience.

I was never gonna get to what was on the other side of it if I didn't figure that out.

I've never figured this out with another person before, but $4.75 an hour times eight times 20 Before taxes, I made $760 a month.

Scott Benner (41:37)

And I probably didn't pay much in taxes, so let's just call it $700.

So $7.14 $21.28.

I worked four and a half months to pay my car insurance so that I could go to work.

So that I could then have the money left over from the other, let's call it eleven months at $700.

So I worked all year for $7,700 in my pocket, and I did that for years.

Scott Benner (42:08)

Eventually, I got a raise to $5.50 an hour.

I don't wanna Mhmm.

Tell you tell you differently.

And then one day, a friend of mine said, hey, I got this job collecting credit card debts, and it pays like I forget it was like $12 an hour.

Would you you she said to me, you talk good.

Scott Benner (42:28)

Would you I was like, yes.

Done.

And I quit my job, and I took all my cuts and burns and scars and bruises from working at that place.

And I put on a tie, and I went into an office, and I sat at a computer.

And for eight hours a day, I shook the life out of people who couldn't afford it to get their payments, and I hated it.

Scott Benner (42:49)

It made me feel terrible.

So as soon as I did that, you know what I did?

As soon as I realized how bad it made me feel, you probably think, oh, you quit or you got another job.

Right?

No.

Scott Benner (42:58)

I didn't do that because I needed the money.

I kept working.

And then I went there every day and felt horrible.

And they paid me extra money, and I used that extra money and that experience to parlay that into a slightly better job where I went to a credit union to do collections for them, but it was at least it was friendly collections.

It was a credit union.

Scott Benner (43:19)

So it was sort of like, hey, Dakota.

It's Scott.

Did you forget to pay your car payment?

And you'd go, I did.

Oh, I'm an idiot.

Scott Benner (43:27)

And then you'd transfer it over out of your account.

I go, thank you.

Dakota (43:30)

You're telling me that's the status the credit union gets, and I've been ignoring them?

Yeah.

Scott Benner (43:35)

Yeah.

The credit union was much like that.

Right?

And then one day, the graphic designer of the credit union quit.

And I heard somebody talking about that they were in trouble.

Scott Benner (43:46)

And I walked into the human resources department and said, hey, I'm really good with computers.

I can do that job.

I was not a graphic designer, and I had no idea what I was talking about.

And they sat me down at a computer, and I I used Adobe I forgot what it was.

Photoshop and something else.

Dakota (44:07)

Illustrated.

Scott Benner (44:07)

I illustrate I designed something for them, and I said, I need I said, this computer sucks.

I need a slightly better computer.

This piece of software, that piece of software, and if you send me to a weekend training course for that software, I can do this job for you.

And she said, why would I do that?

And I said, I will do it for far less money than somebody else will.

Scott Benner (44:24)

And she went, okay.

And then she gave me the job and then I figured out how to make the visual needs for a credit union, a pretty big credit union.

And then I did that for years and I was still not making for I think at that point, was making $25,000 a year maybe at that credit union.

And my wife was building her at that point, then we got married.

My wife was building up her thing.

Scott Benner (44:47)

Eventually, I became a stay at home dad.

I didn't know the first thing about raising a kid.

I figured all that out too.

Those kids are in my house somewhere right now.

They've never done meth and they're employed.

Scott Benner (44:56)

Okay?

And then I moved on and on and on.

I didn't know how to save money.

I taught myself how to save money.

I didn't know how to eat well.

Scott Benner (45:05)

I taught myself how to eat well.

My life sucks, if I don't do something about it.

But instead, I just did.

And it doesn't happen as fast as you want it to, but it's 100% not gonna happen if you don't fucking do something.

You just gotta get going.

Scott Benner (45:21)

Yep.

You know?

Just put yourself out there.

Fail.

Don't fail.

Scott Benner (45:26)

Have some wins.

You're never gonna even see the wins, man.

You don't see them.

You see the wins in hindsight.

The failures hit you every day in the face.

Scott Benner (45:34)

The wins you see in hindsight.

So that's gonna be a thing you're gonna have to say to yourself is I'm gonna put my head down and keep going until I look up and I'm on the other side of this cloud.

And I have no expectations for how long that's gonna take or what it's gonna feel like while I'm doing it.

I'm just going to do it every day over and over again until I pop out.

And then, dude, you're gonna pop out so much sooner than you think.

Scott Benner (45:57)

You know what I mean?

And then your life's gonna be completely different, and then you're probably gonna name a baby after me, and then that kid's gonna have ADHD.

And, you know, it's okay.

And then you'll figure that out with him or her.

Whatever happens, you'll just keep going and then you'll die at the end.

Scott Benner (46:13)

And right before you die, if you're lucky, you won't get hit by a car.

You'll have a couple minutes to think about it and you'll think, man, I started off in a hole and then I got diabetes and I really thought I was shot then.

And then I talked to some guy on a podcast and I started doing the right thing and like, look at me now.

I got I raised a family and I have a home and, you know, I put some money aside and I've been on a few vacations and I've got some great memories and then you're gonna shut your eyes.

That's gonna be the end of it.

Scott Benner (46:40)

So if that's the truth, if that's how it ends no matter what, might as well do a good job while you're here because what the hell?

You you know what mean?

Like, what's the alternative to that?

Dakota (46:51)

Not trying and having the exact opposite outcome.

Scott Benner (46:55)

I'd rather try and fail than not try and fail.

Dakota (46:58)

Right.

Scott Benner (46:58)

You know?

Because at least you tried and you can I'll tell you what, you build a pretty good foundation of confidence on trying, you know?

I I got out there, I swung my hands, I kicked my ass, but okay, here I am still.

And I got up and I did it again the next day.

You're gonna get knocked I mean, I don't wanna be trite, man, but you're gonna get knocked down a lot more than you're gonna win.

Scott Benner (47:17)

You just gotta keep going.

It's not a movie.

Like, this is not a movie.

This is what this is.

And it can be great.

Scott Benner (47:25)

And and there's gonna be moments of just pure joy.

And there's gonna be moments where you're gonna really like look at yourself and think, man, look what I've accomplished.

And then you're gonna realize that the t shirt slogan really is true and it's not the destination, it's the journey.

And then you'll be okay.

That's it.

Scott Benner (47:44)

Come to my funeral, Dakota.

Would you please?

Dakota (47:46)

Yes.

Send me an invite.

Scott Benner (47:47)

Thank you.

Well, yeah, I'll get I'll get I'm gonna need a few of you to show up to tell the rest

Dakota (47:52)

of these nunnicks that I was, valuable to you.

Scott Benner (47:55)

I really don't know another way to put it.

Like, life and diabetes is it's all the same thing.

Everything's the same thing.

You know how I tell you, like, it's timing and amount?

That's what diabetes is.

Scott Benner (48:08)

They're using the right amount of insulin at the right time and when you really if you really distill it down, that's the truth.

Good settings, making decisions about where to put your insulin in, it's timing and amount.

Life is effort.

That's it.

Just try and have no expectations for what success looks like, and you're gonna be a happy person.

Scott Benner (48:27)

And find some people and love them and let them love you back.

There.

What else do we need to do?

This was awesome.

I'm fantastic.

Dakota (48:34)

Thank you.

Scott Benner (48:34)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Scott Benner (48:36)

You have a good sense of humor.

You're already halfway there.

Dakota (48:39)

No.

I, yeah.

No.

I do.

But I no.

Dakota (48:44)

I I feel like everything you said, I deep down, I already know that that's what I should be doing.

Scott Benner (48:50)

You should just wake up every morning and think, let's can go.

Yeah.

And then just go out there and whatever that ends up being is a win.

Dakota (48:57)

That's what it is.

Scott Benner (48:58)

That's what it is.

Okay.

Yeah.

Now you're good.

That's what it is.

Scott Benner (49:00)

Then you just get up the next day and you could do it again and do it again and do it again.

And one day, won't look like that anymore.

You won't even know how to happen.

Just make good decisions, man.

Like, when some when you get an opportunity, think about it for a second and do what your gut tells you and then just keep going.

Scott Benner (49:16)

What do you where's where's the job now?

Where do you where are you working at?

Same place as last time?

Dakota (49:20)

Yeah.

But I'm the assistant store manager now.

Scott Benner (49:23)

Oh, so prior to the last time I spoke to you, you were not the assistant store manager.

Now you are.

Dakota (49:28)

Yeah.

Scott Benner (49:28)

Right.

And one day, you'll probably manage the store.

Dakota (49:31)

I don't want to know.

Oh, no.

You do

Scott Benner (49:34)

want you don't listen to me.

Yes.

You do.

You want it.

Bring it on is the is what we say.

Dakota (49:39)

Okay.

Scott Benner (49:40)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No.

Scott Benner (49:41)

You want it.

You want responsibility.

You want something to tax you.

You wanna get out there and have to swing your hands because then you're gonna learn something else and you're gonna apply it sometimes.

You might just wake up one day and some or your friend might go to you.

Scott Benner (49:52)

I know you hate working at the store, but you talk good.

You wanna come collect debts with me?

And I went, get me out of here.

Let's go.

Right?

Scott Benner (50:01)

Because if I don't have my head up for that and I'm not paying attention, now I'm a 54 year old guy working in a sheet metal shop.

But you wonder the funny thing about that is that sheet metal shop went under twenty years ago.

So I would have been a 34 year old guy with nowhere to work and skills that were probably outdated.

And I don't know what I would have done.

Think of this as like canoeing down a river and every time, you know, you come up to a bunch of, forks in the in the river, you that gives you a minute to think about it and you go, okay.

Scott Benner (50:29)

I'm gonna try this.

And if it that was the wrong thing, just keep the boat upright till you get to the next one and try again.

You just got I can I mean, I can metaphor you to death here if you want?

Just don't give up.

Keep going.

Scott Benner (50:41)

Listen.

I I think I probably did it when I was young too.

Okay?

But I might not have had as much of an opportunity because I grew up so poorly and so broke, but you gotta stop blaming other Like, just it doesn't matter whose fault it is and you might be right, but it doesn't matter.

It doesn't change your situation.

Scott Benner (50:59)

If I push you out of a plane and I tell you, don't worry, the parachute works, I checked it and you pull the cord and it doesn't open.

Well, you're still falling out of the goddamn plane.

It doesn't matter if I didn't do it right or not.

Like, this is what's happening.

You know what I mean?

Scott Benner (51:12)

Like, you are now in a new situation and that situation is not your fault.

It is not of your making and it doesn't matter because it's still happening to you.

So now what do you do next?

The plane thing's probably a bad example because there's not much to do.

You just you can flap your I'll tell you what, I'd flap my goddamn hands.

Scott Benner (51:31)

I really would.

You would watch me falling out of a plane without a a parachute and go, that's a stubborn son of a bitch up there.

He's trying to fly.

That might be your metaphor, Flap your arms.

You know what I mean?

Scott Benner (51:45)

Like, after it.

You've got I don't know.

So okay.

What does this look like real life?

You gotta do what?

Scott Benner (51:51)

I mean, I'd might make a list of I Bijou.

Dakota (51:55)

Let me get my pen and paper.

Scott Benner (51:56)

Yeah.

Yeah.

I I think maybe we should write it down.

Also, for people listening, life's not that hard.

Like, life's hard, but they're doing the things.

Scott Benner (52:03)

Not that just do the thing.

Yep.

Just do it.

Dakota (52:06)

That's what it comes down to.

Scott Benner (52:07)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just do it.

It doesn't matter what your situation is.

We all go to a bunch of movies, and we watch people in terrible situations.

Scott Benner (52:14)

We come and we go, oh, they made the best of it.

It was so lovely.

Like, he was he was locked in that camp for thirty years, but he never gave up hope.

I and then you get in your own situation that's not nearly that dire and you give up immediately.

Unbelievable.

Scott Benner (52:30)

Everybody everybody

Dakota (52:31)

should have had my dad kicked their under a coffee table a couple of times.

Scott Benner (52:34)

It might have, like, straight.

Dakota (52:35)

Might have been like, I gotta keep I gotta get the fuck out of here.

Scott Benner (52:39)

Maybe life's not bad enough that you need to run away from it a little bit.

I don't know.

We got our paper?

Dakota (52:45)

Yep.

Scott Benner (52:46)

Alright.

You want me to rattle off a few and then we'll fill in the blanks?

Dakota (52:50)

I started to but just do the thing.

Scott Benner (52:52)

Yeah.

Do the thing.

That's but yeah.

Timing and amount.

Get going.

Scott Benner (52:56)

By the way, my wife is coming back from a business trip.

She somehow ended up in Switzerland during the Hantavirus.

Oh, woah.

And she texted, I just landed.

My son sent a GIF of a guy spraying just like a spray in the room with yeah.

Scott Benner (53:13)

With his with his his shirt over You know you know the GIF?

Dakota (53:18)

I feel like I do.

I don't know exactly, but I can see it.

Scott Benner (53:21)

It's from the I never watched the show.

It's a bunch of super smart people.

Yeah.

It's Sheldon.

Dakota (53:29)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The Big Bang three.

Scott Benner (53:31)

Yeah.

Is that what you're picturing?

Dakota (53:33)

I think so.

Yeah.

Scott Benner (53:34)

Okay.

Now so okay.

Let me say this to you, Dakota.

This is the fucking problem with your generation.

I should not have been able to say there's a guy spraying an aerosol can and you knew what it was.

Scott Benner (53:44)

You motherfuckers are not spending enough time on other stuff.

How did you know that?

Get to work.

Dakota (53:48)

It's funny.

No.

I was showing my dad.

I was he was acting like this guy and I was I showed him this this clip, this meme and he's like, he got offended.

I like, I wasn't acting like that.

Dakota (54:00)

And I was like, no.

It's just funny because it reminded me of this video.

And that's, yeah, that's literally how my generation just

Scott Benner (54:07)

All that time you spent with your dad on that, could you just pre bowl us with that time, please?

Yeah.

Okay.

Stop with the TikTok or whatever.

Pre bowl us our meals, count the carbs, understand the impact of the fat and protein.

Scott Benner (54:21)

You know, you can use the estimator on my website to help you for a while until you get it up, till you get the idea together.

Dakota (54:26)

Yeah.

I don't know much about fat and protein.

Yeah.

Well, heard on the podcast and it's hard to

Scott Benner (54:31)

There's fat and protein in food and it, impacts your insulin needs.

Yeah.

So, I mean, do you drink coffee?

Dakota (54:38)

No.

But I drink energy drinks.

Scott Benner (54:40)

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, there's a lot of caffeine and energy drinks that make your blood sugar go up, and those energy drinks have sugar in them as well.

Right?

Dakota (54:47)

I I don't drink sugar drinks.

Scott Benner (54:50)

Okay.

Good.

So you're drinking but you're still drinking something with, like, eighty eight milligrams of caffeine in it or something like that.

Right?

Dakota (54:57)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's two two hundred milligrams.

Scott Benner (54:59)

And does your Jesus.

And does your blood sugar go up when you use that?

Dakota (55:03)

So if I am, like, not if it's, like, first thing in the morning and I haven't hydrated first, yes.

Scott Benner (55:09)

Do you bolus for it?

Dakota (55:11)

No.

Because it's zero and I know, like, that's wrong.

Zero carbs, obviously, it's gonna have an impact on my blood sugar because of

Scott Benner (55:19)

The caffeine?

Dakota (55:20)

Yeah.

Scott Benner (55:21)

I don't know.

Know what happens and it happens every day, but you don't bolus for

Dakota (55:24)

it.

It doesn't happen all the time.

Scott Benner (55:26)

And then you wanted to come on here and tell everybody that I let let you down.

Is that right?

Dakota (55:30)

Yeah.

Mhmm.

I let screwed me over.

You fucked up my life.

No.

Dakota (55:35)

I did not.

Scott Benner (55:37)

Listen.

You gotta do the things.

Right?

So so maybe it impacts you, maybe it doesn't.

Figure that out and then take care of that.

Scott Benner (55:44)

But in the end, like, it's good for you.

It's gonna be good settings and timely decisions.

Dakota (55:49)

Yeah.

You know what

Scott Benner (55:50)

I mean?

Just doing doing those things at the right time.

And if you tell me I can't because I have ADHD, I'm gonna tell you that you're talking about it.

So use the time you're talking about it to put alarms in your phone to remind you to do things.

That's it.

Scott Benner (56:05)

Just make an alarm that says that pops up and tells you pre bowl is for breakfast.

And then when it goes off, do it.

And if you don't want to and I'm being sincere, you're an you're an adult.

Okay?

If you don't want to, that's fine, But never fucking complain about it again because it's a decision you made.

Scott Benner (56:26)

Don't complain about your decisions.

Go live in it.

You wanna do heroin?

Do heroin.

Don't tell me you're sorry about it.

Scott Benner (56:32)

Just shoot it in your arm and sit there and die.

Have the courage of your convictions.

Do you know I mean?

Because you either don't want it to be that way or you want it to be that way.

And so make your decision to stand behind it.

Scott Benner (56:43)

Yep.

That makes sense?

Dakota (56:45)

Yep.

If I don't want it to be that way, do something about it.

Scott Benner (56:48)

Yeah.

Exactly.

If that's your lot in life, if that's how you feel, I mean, just have the nerve to embrace it.

You know what I mean?

I have an example, but I don't think I can say it out loud here because I think people won't like me.

Scott Benner (57:00)

But just go be the thing you're gonna be then and be happy being that thing.

Live a shorter life happily.

Don't beat yourself up over and over and over again.

Like, just say, okay.

I guess I'm not a person who's gonna live a long healthy life.

Scott Benner (57:15)

At least I'm gonna live a short happy one.

Like, at least do that.

You know?

I mean, if you were my kid, that's what I'd say to you.

The people listening, I wouldn't say that to you.

Scott Benner (57:23)

What I would say to you people is please do the right thing and take good care of yourself.

But, like, you know, if if that's gonna be your situation, do it.

And if you if that turns out to be your situation and you think I don't want this, then go see therapist and have them help you figure out why it is you're doing that.

Because, you know, I don't want you to hurt yourself and I don't want you to have a poor outcome that is against your desire for yourself that you're battling with something else.

So I don't I mean, we're only talking for a little bit here.

Scott Benner (57:51)

I I can't possibly know all the intricacies of your life.

You you know what I mean?

Like so but in the end, like, whatever those intricacies are, the only way to get around them is through.

You what know I mean?

You just gotta put your head down and knock them over.

Dakota (58:05)

Yeah.

Scott Benner (58:05)

Be persistent.

What else?

Dakota (58:07)

You have the juiceboxstocks.com.

Does that have therapists on there or just endocrinologists?

Scott Benner (58:13)

At the moment, it doesn't have therapists.

Where are you at?

What state are you in?

Dakota (58:16)

I'm in Iowa, and I am always searching around for, like, a good therapist, which I've had one in the past, but I need someone who focuses and knows more about diabetes.

Scott Benner (58:26)

You could try writing a note to Erica, who's on the podcast.

She I don't think she can cover Iowa, but you could ask her if she knows where you could find somebody who would be good.

I bet you she could maybe help you.

Dakota (58:37)

That would be yeah.

Scott Benner (58:38)

It's a good place to Right?

Yes.

Just put yourself out there, see what you can figure out.

If you just said to her, hey.

If you said, hey.

Scott Benner (58:45)

My name's Dakota.

I've been on these episodes of the podcast, and I really feel like I need a therapist for these reasons.

I know you can't do it, but is there someone you could suggest or even a network that you could point me to that would help me find somebody?

Dakota (58:57)

Yep.

Scott Benner (58:58)

And that would be some but that's gonna be you doing something.

You know what I mean?

Yes.

And by the way, even just now when you thought about doing it, didn't you feel better?

Dakota (59:07)

Yes.

Scott Benner (59:08)

Yeah.

You think, oh, I could do that.

I could send Erica a note and ask her to help me, and she probably would help me, and maybe I'd end up in a better it's already your forward thinking differently than before.

And Dakota, I'm not like somebody who's like, I'm not a boo hoo per I'm not I'm not like, oh gosh, everybody just feels sorry for themselves and they don't try.

This is a terrible situation you're in.

Scott Benner (59:28)

I'm not telling you otherwise.

I don't think it's right.

I don't think it's fair.

If you put me in charge, I wouldn't certainly let you stay like this for five seconds, but none of that changes the reality of it.

And if you're waiting for somebody else to change the reality of your situation, you will wait indefinitely and then die.

Scott Benner (59:46)

It is not no one is gonna step in and save you.

You know?

There's people who can help you, but they aren't gonna come find you.

Like, you know, you can't just sit there going, I'm a good person.

When's this gonna change for me?

Scott Benner (59:59)

Because answer is gonna be never if you're just sitting there trying to explain if you're trying to explain a meme to your dad.

It's gonna be a long day.

How come I've never seen this show?

People love it.

Dakota (1:00:10)

Yeah.

It's good.

And then there's like a young Sheldon, which is like

Scott Benner (1:00:15)

I saw a couple.

Dakota (1:00:15)

Spin off of his childhood.

I saw a couple of those and I was like, okay.

That's enough.

I got it.

And then there's a spin off of that show

Scott Benner (1:00:23)

too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

With a brother gets married to some girl or something.

Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:00:26)

I I'm not gonna watch that either.

No.

Dakota (1:00:29)

It's too far down the rabbit hole.

Scott Benner (1:00:31)

You know why?

I'm busy fighting life off.

That's why.

It's over here trying to kill me every day and I'm I got my hands up.

And by the way, it's funny.

Scott Benner (1:00:40)

I my life's not nearly as dire as it was at one point, but I still come from that perspective.

And I can even tell you that nowadays, that's like that's detrimental to me.

So I work against that.

Like, I build up a defense that's so thick, it's not necessary for the new world I live in.

Instead of just being a prick, I think, okay.

Scott Benner (1:00:59)

Well, let me fix this.

Gives you something to do.

I mean, you know what I mean?

Like, pick up the rock, take it to the ant hill, put it down, go get another one.

What are you busy?

Scott Benner (1:01:07)

You know?

And seriously, look at you.

You got a phone call?

People.

Is that my house or yours?

Scott Benner (1:01:12)

Hold

Dakota (1:01:12)

on.

No.

Nothing here.

Scott Benner (1:01:14)

Oh, it's here.

Sons of bitches.

It's probably just Walgreens telling us that something's not available.

That's pretty much the extent of the phone calls

Dakota (1:01:22)

we get.

Scott Benner (1:01:23)

Also, US med calls here.

Usmed.com/juicebox if you like to learn more.

Do you feel okay?

Dakota (1:01:29)

I feel fine.

Yeah.

I like yeah.

Scott Benner (1:01:31)

Alright.

Hey.

High high level.

How's the Medtronic seven eighty g?

Dakota (1:01:36)

Not working out too well for me.

Can you believe that?

So

Scott Benner (1:01:40)

to to go over it, Tandem, Omnipod, Medtronic, none of them work for you?

Dakota (1:01:47)

I didn't do Tandem.

Omnipod, Eyelet, Medtronic.

Scott Benner (1:01:50)

Excuse me.

Omnipod, Islet, Medtronic.

All don't work.

What do you think you've learned during this one hour about that statement?

Dakota (1:01:57)

I'm the common denominator.

Scott Benner (1:01:58)

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're the only yeah.

You it's you.

Yeah.

Dakota (1:02:01)

Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:02:01)

So, you know, apologize to the other write them a note.

Dakota (1:02:08)

That's good.

Yep.

Scott Benner (1:02:09)

So sorry.

I shouldn't have left you.

I mean, seriously, how many times have you seen somebody break up with somebody and then realize they're miserable and then realize I was the problem in the relationship?

Dakota (1:02:18)

Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:02:18)

Yeah.

That's all.

Alright.

Well, I've basically fixed everything for you in an hour.

Dakota (1:02:23)

Yeah.

Yes.

Absolutely.

Scott Benner (1:02:24)

All you have to do now is is the incredibly difficult work of doing that.

Yep.

And by the way, man, after you do it for a while, it's not hard.

You just have to give yourself over to it.

My best example to you is that at some point after I was collecting credit card debts and then became a credit union graphic designer, I, by mistake, got my wife pregnant.

Scott Benner (1:02:48)

The baby was gonna come out no matter what in nine months.

So we started looking at daycare, and I thought, I don't wanna put my baby in daycare.

So I went to my wife and I said, you should probably quit your job and stay home with the baby.

And she laughed directly in my face because she had, like, a career and, a path.

And I was, you know, I was making, you know, handouts for a credit union.

Scott Benner (1:03:19)

And she said, well, you I think you'd be really good with kids and I agree with you.

I don't wanna put the baby in daycare either.

Do you think you could stay home with them?

And I thought about it for a while and it was not an easy decision.

It sounds easy like, oh, I don't work anymore, but you give up a lot of yourself when you do when you give up your work and when you give up what you feel like is dreams and and ideas of what you were gonna do and everything.

Scott Benner (1:03:42)

So at first, I tried to play it down the middle.

Like, I I tried to be in two places at once.

Like, oh, I'm still gonna do this and I still have my eye on doing that and then I'll take care of this kid.

And about a year into it, I was like, this is unfair.

Like, I'm not putting as much effort into him as he would get if my wife was here.

Scott Benner (1:04:00)

She would definitely be doing a better job than I am.

I need to do a better job.

I need to make raising him a thing that I get, like, real joy from.

Like, of the idea that I was gonna chase something else down and be happy when I got to that, why don't I just be happy here with him in this thing that we're doing together?

And I gave myself over to being a stay at home parent.

Scott Benner (1:04:27)

And I just I just anything else I thought I was gonna do with my life, thought I'll do it later.

And if I don't, I'll be happy that he's healthy and feels loved and that we spent this time together.

I gave away all my other hopes and dreams and found a way not to be upset by that.

And I made him and that task, my I'm like, this is what I have.

I I want to want what I have.

Scott Benner (1:04:54)

And I think that's the thing people struggle with.

I think everybody wants something they don't have and they're angry with the thing they do have.

You could just decide to want the thing you have and then just put your effort and time and skill into that.

And I did that, and he's 26 now.

He's a good person.

Scott Benner (1:05:13)

He's out in the world.

He seems pretty healthy.

He's, you know, making good decisions.

I'm happy to watch him live in his life, and I did that to some extent.

Like, I put him in that situation.

Scott Benner (1:05:25)

That that's what I did by making you would say, people would say some sort of a con you know, I don't know.

I I gave something away for him to be happy, but I don't see it that way because I feel completely fulfilled by what I did.

Because I decided that that's what I wanted.

You just have to want to do this.

Decide that like a stable blood sugar after a meal is a thing you care about that you want, and then you'll feel good about working towards it.

Scott Benner (1:05:53)

You'll feel good about it when it works out.

You'll feel motivated when it doesn't.

You'll try harder the next time, and you'll feel like that ant whose job it is to take the rock and put it on the pile.

You'll feel accomplished.

I wanted to do it.

Scott Benner (1:06:07)

I did it.

I accomplished it.

It builds up your confidence, and you can move on and put that on something else afterwards.

And just do that over and over and over again till you die, and then that's it.

It's over.

Scott Benner (1:06:18)

You did it.

Dakota (1:06:18)

Not that hard.

Scott Benner (1:06:19)

Not that hard.

It really isn't that hard.

Life's not really that hard.

Like, things make it difficult, and there could be somebody living right now who's like, I live under a rock, Scott.

Life's pretty hard.

Scott Benner (1:06:29)

You're right.

It is.

And I would tell you, I want you out from under that rock.

But while you're there, make as many good decisions as you can because that's pretty much the only pathway out from under the rock.

No one's coming to save you.

Scott Benner (1:06:42)

The government's not coming.

Your mom's not coming.

Some magic man in the sky is not coming.

It's you.

You and the rock.

Scott Benner (1:06:49)

Make good decisions.

Try to get on top of the rock.

Once you're on top of the rock, make better decisions.

See if can get out of the desert.

Get out of the desert, make a couple more good decisions.

Scott Benner (1:06:56)

Takes you your whole life.

Who cares?

What were you doing anyway?

You're living under a rock.

So I I think we're good.

Scott Benner (1:07:05)

I think you got this.

Dakota (1:07:07)

I think so.

Scott Benner (1:07:07)

Alright.

When are you coming back?

Let's not put a time frame on it.

I don't wanna pressure you.

But Oh.

Scott Benner (1:07:13)

But do this now.

Don't wait till Monday.

And then, you know, make yourself a little plan.

Stick to it as best as you can.

Stay flexible with the plan.

Scott Benner (1:07:24)

If the plan's not working, change the plan.

If you fail at the plan, do not beat yourself up.

Just go back to the plan.

Keep going.

A day is gonna turn into a week, gonna turn into a month, it's gonna turn into a year.

Scott Benner (1:07:36)

You're gonna look back on this and not recognize yourself.

And then all the rest of you out there listening, just apply what I just said to whatever it is you have trouble with and you should probably be okay.

Just tell yourself it's not that hard.

People do it all the time.

I could be one of those people easily.

Scott Benner (1:07:53)

Right?

Yes.

Alright, Dakota.

I'm sorry.

You didn't get to say how bad the mini med seven eighty g is.

Dakota (1:08:00)

Oh, I was looking forward to roasting it so much.

Scott Benner (1:08:02)

I got your email and I was like, I know how this is gonna go.

He just doesn't know.

But that's because I got to talk to you before.

So I I have a a little bit of a vibe about you.

Dakota (1:08:12)

Yep.

Scott Benner (1:08:12)

Yeah.

Did you meet a girl yet?

Dakota (1:08:14)

There's been a couple.

Scott Benner (1:08:15)

Oh, that's a boy.

Remember last time I gave you that good advice?

Dakota (1:08:18)

Yes.

Scott Benner (1:08:19)

And you took it.

Are you happier?

Dakota (1:08:21)

Yes.

Scott Benner (1:08:21)

Yeah.

I'm not telling you I'm not telling everybody that what I told him was go get laid, but I

Dakota (1:08:26)

that's that's to get out there and meet some people.

Scott Benner (1:08:28)

Right?

Makes you feel it makes you feel good out there meeting people, doing stuff.

Nice.

One day, Dakota.

Dakota (1:08:36)

One day.

Scott Benner (1:08:36)

Yeah.

Alright, man.

It's good to talk to you again.

Yeah.

You alright with all this?

Scott Benner (1:08:41)

Because people are gonna say I ran you over and beat you up and

Dakota (1:08:44)

No.

I it it it I need to hear it from someone, you know.

So I'm perfectly fine with it.

Scott Benner (1:08:52)

Little tough love.

That's all.

Dakota (1:08:54)

Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:08:55)

I do like I really care about you.

I see you on the board and we've talked before.

I have a vested interest in in your success now.

Plus, you're my emissary in the world.

If you do well, people are gonna think I'm a genius.

Dakota (1:09:07)

Right.

And I can tell them it's all because of Scott.

Scott Benner (1:09:09)

Oh, well.

I mean, that would be appreciated if you did that.

Like, how great would it be if there was a podcast for you one day?

Like, he's like, my life used to suck, but now it doesn't anymore.

All I did, listen to Scott.

Dakota (1:09:19)

Listen to Scott.

Scott Benner (1:09:20)

I said, I'm gonna take that review, show it to my kids, and they're gonna go, I I don't care.

I'm not listening to you.

You're an idiot.

I'm like, okay.

Fair enough.

Outro and Sponsors

Scott Benner (1:09:31)

Alright.

Give me one second.

Okay?

Hang out with me.

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Scott Benner (1:09:44)

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Scott Benner (1:10:03)

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Okay.

Scott Benner (1:10:34)

Well, here we are at the end of the episode.

You're still with me?

Thank you.

I really do appreciate that.

What else could you do for me?

Scott Benner (1:10:41)

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Scott Benner (1:11:01)

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You have to join the private group.

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Scott Benner (1:11:17)

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Scott Benner (1:11:21)

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