#1602 Lesbian Energy
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After divorcing a woman pre-pandemic, Hannah and her now-husband went from coworkers to roommates to soulmates—raising daughter Jude with T1D, balancing autoimmune histories, anxiety, and love.
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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends and welcome back to another episode of The Juicebox podcast.
Hannah 0:14
Hi, I'm Hannah, and I am the mom of a four year old with type one diabetes. She was diagnosed a couple months before her third birthday.
Scott Benner 0:26
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Hannah 2:04
Hi, I'm Hannah, and I am the mom of a four year old with type one diabetes. She was diagnosed a couple months before her third birthday. Do you have any other kids? I do. My son. He just turned two last month. Oh,
Scott Benner 2:18
I thought you're gonna say older for some reason. No,
Hannah 2:21
nope. It was a nice, nice shock to be with my daughter in the hospital with my 10 month old. Like, I'm sorry, what now diabetes?
Scott Benner 2:31
You were holding a 10 month old while the doctor was talking to you about diabetes for your three year old. You're like, oh, this is good. Yep. We've made a lot of good decisions. Things are really coming
Hannah 2:40
together. Yeah. I mean, like, I kind of knew that that was what was coming. But I was also like, this isn't real. How did you know I have a medical background? And I also had noticed some concerning things, like, over, like, the year before that, but I was, I would just chalk it up to like, Oh, she's just not feeling well right now. Or, I don't know, maybe just something wonky with toddlers. This is my first kid, so I what do I
Scott Benner 3:06
know this probably happens? What kind of things do you recall? So she
Hannah 3:10
would just, like, randomly throw up, like, just literally out of nowhere. She'd be like, jumping around and then just puke. Or, like, one time my husband was taking her to the aquarium, and she was riding in the back seat, and then all of a sudden, just, like, vomited, like, so so much. And he took her home thinking she was sick, but she didn't have a fever or anything, and she was just like, I feel fine, and I know now, like when she threw up those times, like she had recently eaten a ton of fruit, so she probably just had like crazy high blood sugar, and her body was just trying to get it out. Oh,
Scott Benner 3:43
it's interesting. Oh, she waited a little longer. She could have chummed at the aquarium. They would have loved that.
Hannah 3:48
I know. Yeah, she would wake up from naps, like, inconsolable, until she had like, an ice pop or some fruit or something. And I think she was having, like, a really bad low, but we didn't know then, didn't even know to check Hannah. That's heartbreaking. Yeah, it was not easy, not easy for her, that's for sure.
Scott Benner 4:09
No, of course not. But he was just talking about it. Is kind of soul crushing a little bit. Am I going to be all emotional today? Okay, let's find out, I guess, because we'll see you're talking about it. I'm like, Oh no, this is horrible. I don't want to cry today. I have to record twice today. I can't be crying. Oh my gosh. So other autoimmune stuff in your family, or no,
Hannah 4:31
yes, like rampant on both sides of our family. So I have vitiligo. One of my sisters has Hashimotos. My mom has thyroid issues. Another sister has pots. My father in law has myasthenia gravis, and my sister in law has MS, Myos, my what? Myasthenia gravis? Okay, what is? It's a neurodegenerative autoimmune disease basically causes like muscle weakness.
Scott Benner 5:00
Okay, you didn't just want to see if I could spell it. I don't think I came anywhere close to it, but I'm gonna find out right now. It'll probably pop up. The user is asking about this, but there seems like there might be a typo. You think. So see when it comes up, what? How does that affect him?
Hannah 5:16
So he has to take prednisone, like, constantly. He gets, like, really weak. Can't, like, lift anything, so Jeez, he first realized it because, like, his eyelids started drooping. And so we went in to have that checked out. Like, Oh, am I having a stroke or something? And then found out that it was that,
Scott Benner 5:35
oh my gosh. And you and your then boyfriend were just awesomely attracted to each other. Like, I think we could make a baby to tell you. Type one
Hannah 5:43
if we try. Yeah, yep, that's Yeah, exactly, exactly how it
Scott Benner 5:48
happened. Where's your vitiligo at? Is it like visible, or is it like widespread or in smaller places?
Hannah 5:54
Yeah. So I started getting spots of it when I was maybe five or six, and it's definitely, like, slowed down as I have aged, but it's all over, and it mine is the type that's mirrored. So if it's on one side of my body, it's in the same place on the other side. So lots of like, like, elbows, hips, I
Scott Benner 6:15
didn't realize that did that. So some people have mirrored vitiligo, and some people don't, yes, yeah. Can I say something ridiculous? That's sure, at least it's symmetrical, right? That's probably helpful. No,
Hannah 6:27
I mean, it doesn't really, doesn't really have any impact for me. Impact either way. I've just, you know, I've had it forever, 30 some years, so not a thing you think about. Yeah, I don't think about it at all, and when people notice it, I'm, like, surprised that they even notice,
Scott Benner 6:44
because you've you've forgotten about it, yeah, pretty much. Is it on your face at all?
Hannah 6:48
It is, yeah, but very minimal,
Scott Benner 6:50
okay. And when you were choosing this boy, did you know like, I have an autoimmune issue, so do all my sisters and my mom, and now he has somebody who says we shouldn't do that, is that even I know this isn't a thing you thought about, but I just want not at all, right, like, it's not a thing you would have ever considered. Yeah, no,
Hannah 7:09
honestly, like, when we got together, like I I knew his sister had, MS, his dad had not been diagnosed with Myasthenia, gratis yet, but it was just, like, not something I considered at all. Yeah, I didn't really fully understand, like, the genetic components of autoimmune diseases at that point. But I mean, like, when we were in the ER, and the doctor was telling us, you know, hey, she has type one diabetes, he had asked the same question, like, do you have other things in your family? He even said, I see you have vitiligo. What else is going on? Like, medical history wise? And then he was like, Yeah, unfortunately, like, this tracks, and she pulled the type one stick. So
Scott Benner 7:52
exactly I listen. Would it over rule love when I was in my 20s, I know it wouldn't have like, if you said, you said, You know what I mean? Like, if you're busy running around, having a good time, and you're like, I love this person, and you know, you're like, we're gonna get married and have children, it's gonna be wonderful. And somebody said you have a higher chance of having here's a list of things you'd be like, it's okay. Love will conquer all 2030, years later, I don't know. Like, yeah, maybe I would have just been like, all right, Kelly, we've had a good time. I think the mix of us isn't going to go well, do you know what I mean?
Hannah 8:29
Yeah, what's super interesting is that I've, like, I've always known that I wanted kids, but my husband didn't really want them previously, and then, like, realized later on, maybe I do want kids.
Scott Benner 8:43
You told him he wanted kids. He understood that he wanted
Hannah 8:48
kids. Um, kind of he it was more like, I knew that I didn't want kids with the people I was with before.
Scott Benner 8:55
Oh, okay, well, that's Yeah, yeah. Like being serious, that makes a lot of sense. Like, why would you have that feeling if the people you're with were like, it was uncomfortable somehow, yeah, did you explain it to him in your underwear, or did you talk to him about it at dinner? How did you trick him exactly?
Hannah 9:12
We met, we worked together, and we had both recently been divorced, and it was like, right before covid times.
Scott Benner 9:20
Honestly, this is all very fresh. This is very new relationship,
Hannah 9:23
kind of, yeah, but we had been friends for a bit because we worked together, but we had both recently been divorced, and he needed a new place to live, and I had an extra room, so I was like, Hey, you can like be we can be roommates. And, you know, because we were good friends, and then the world shut down, and we realized that it was a different relationship than we initially thought.
Scott Benner 9:43
You didn't have that feeling like you weren't honestly, when you told him to move in, you weren't like, this could work into something. You weren't thinking that. No, not at all. He didn't think that. No, but what about him? He's a boy. He thought he was going to try to have sex with
Hannah 9:56
you at some point. Well, no, actually,
Scott Benner 9:59
so. What kind of a self respecting boy wouldn't have that thought? No, go
Hannah 10:02
ahead. I guess maybe I don't know, but I'm queer, and I had been divorced from a woman, so I don't think it even crossed his mind.
Scott Benner 10:11
This is a completely safe place for me. She is gonna fight me off with a stick I got you. Well, then what happened here is he just so masculine and overcame everything. No, he has like,
Hannah 10:21
very lesbian energy. I tell everybody that he's a very like gentle soul, just like a really kind person. Oh, that's
Scott Benner 10:32
lovely. Yeah, it's nice. Does he brag to people that he turned you?
Hannah 10:37
Oh, no, not at all. No, not really. He makes jokes about it to me sometimes, but not, not anybody else. It's
Scott Benner 10:46
a real it's a hell of a flex, though, don't you think?
Hannah 10:49
I mean, I guess I don't know why
Scott Benner 10:52
you're not thinking about it the way I'm thinking about I know he's telling all of his friends. He's like, here's what happened. She saw my penis, and she was like, I guess I'm not gay anymore.
Hannah 11:02
Yeah. I mean, maybe
Scott Benner 11:05
was that, yeah, for the penis.
Hannah 11:09
I don't really, I don't, I don't know. So, all right, we got to get past
Scott Benner 11:13
this. But I want to understand before, like, did you like, I don't understand all the words. So did you consider yourself bi while you were with the girl you were married
Hannah 11:23
to. Yeah, okay, yeah, I prefer the word queer. But I mean, okay, Pan, whatever it all, it's all the
Scott Benner 11:29
same. Can you tell me why you prefer that word over the other when
Hannah 11:33
I hear the word like bisexual, I think like man or woman, and queer is more like all encompassing of all genders, and I, like me personally, I'm attracted to personalities.
Scott Benner 11:45
Okay, all right, yeah, it really doesn't matter to you what the gender is, right?
Hannah 11:49
Yeah, or the gender identity doesn't got you. Does not bother me. Whatever it is. I think it's
Scott Benner 11:55
interesting when you know they're words that I would imagine, that most people would hear and go, do they not all mean the same thing, right? For you, no. So, like, let's understand what they mean. Okay, so this boy somehow tricks you and then ruins your life by making you pregnant twice. Tell me a little bit about like, even though there's illness in your family, right? Like, people are taking medications, there's still pills, right? Like, you know, injecting things and so on and so forth. Like, what was the shift like, especially coming out of like, it all, it just occurs to me that, like, you get together covid, a lot of big shifts in your life, right? You end up married. You're like, Yeah, I'm gonna have a baby. He didn't think he was gonna have one. You thought you are, here's the baby. This all starts happening inside of a couple of years, like, what's the shift like for you? Like, psychologically, I guess.
Hannah 12:44
I mean, it was definitely tough on us, tougher on my husband. I think because I grew up knowing someone who had type one, while I didn't, obviously didn't understand, like, all of the intricacies of it, I at least knew, like, okay, she's going to be okay. Like, this guy is perfectly fine, healthy now has his own kid, like, he has a very successful job, like, she's gonna be okay. And because I had the medical background too, I'm like, I can figure this out. Like, we can figure out how to dose her correctly, like, we'll get it together. But my husband really doesn't have much experience with medical stuff, so it was definitely more of a shock to
Scott Benner 13:33
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Hannah 15:56
I mean, honestly, he's like, he's very like, private when it comes to, like, being outwardly emotional, like, it really only happens, like, in the confines of our home, but like, for me, like, we go to a breakthrough, T 1d, walk, and I'm, like, crying when we get in the parking lot. Because I'm just like all these people, we all understand, and
Scott Benner 16:18
he's not going to cry in the parking lot. No later, no,
Hannah 16:22
get home and just be like, I'm so sad for her, but yeah, so
Scott Benner 16:26
does the care fall to you? Mainly, then after the diagnosis? No,
Hannah 16:30
actually, my husband is a stay at home dad, much like you were. Oh yeah. So he had to get with it, like, right away. And honestly, like he was, he was amazing with it. Like, from the beginning, like, kept it together with her. And like, was able to get her to calm down enough to, you know, get her shot before she ate. And it was tough for him, but he, he held it together. Like, so Well, yeah, I like the data part. So, like, I'm on tandem source, a lot was on clarity before we were on the pump, just to, like, figure stuff out. And I'm, like, constantly tinkering with settings and everything. But like, he is the one who handles like, 90% of the care, like he does overnights, if there's lows, he obviously is all day managing it. So,
Scott Benner 17:18
yeah, okay, hey, do I have lesbian energy?
Hannah 17:21
Is that why you like me? Maybe a little
Scott Benner 17:23
bit. I mean, I just figured like I was also a stay at home dad. For a long time, there was an awesome I know I've said this before, but there was an awesome thread on Yahoo arguing if I was gay or not after I wrote my book. It was fantastic.
Hannah 17:38
Well, I thought my husband was gay when I first met him. So, you know, there's some similarities. I write
Scott Benner 17:42
this book about being a stay at home dad, right? I get some media around it, which is not easy to accomplish, and I end up on Katie Couric show, and then they repurposed the show as a post, and it got on Yahoo, and it made it through the front page of Yahoo, back when that really meant something. And like, the book boomed from that, yeah. So we couldn't figure out why my like book that was selling fine was all of a sudden selling so well. And then so we started Googling and trying to figure it out. And then one day, we found this Yahoo, like, like post, and my wife sitting on the sofa, and she goes, Hey, there's a lot of comments on this post. And she she dug into it. She goes, Oh, I see what's happening here. And I said, what's going on? She goes, half of these people think you're like, emotional and then connected and a good dad, and the other half definitely think you're closeted and that I should know that I'm married to a gay guy. And so while they're arguing, some of the people are going and buying the book. So I was like, awesome. Yeah, it was great. It's the first time I learned about that. Like, I didn't really that's not a thing I understood until I saw it happen there, and then people will be like, Oh, are you, like, sad that, like, people are talking about you, like this. I was like, No, I hope they keep doing it. I was like, I don't hear them, and I do want the book to sell. So anyway, I just wanted to try to figure out what lesbian energy means. What is it? But is it? But we'll figure it out as we go. Yeah. So is the kid, the kid, sorry, your daughter, right? Yeah, yeah, the kid, that kid you made that's not, that's fine. I didn't. That's not how I met it. But, uh, pumping CGM like, how do you manage it today? Yeah,
Hannah 19:22
yeah. So back in August, it's June now, right? Yeah, that is when she started on a pump. So it was MDI before that, but she's been on the g7 since about a week after diagnosis, and she's on the Mobi. Oh, okay. How do you like that. Oh, I love it. Her last day 1c, was just on Monday, 6.2 Hey, congratulations. That's awesome. Thank you. Thank you. I was very excited.
Scott Benner 19:49
Speaking of daughters, mine's texting me. I am
Hannah 19:52
recording what's up.
Scott Benner 19:56
People tell me they miss when Arden used to like text during from. School about her Bolus, I don't know how to tell you. She doesn't text me about her boluses anymore. Yeah, I'm sure. Okay, so you like the Moby is the first pump she's ever had?
Hannah 20:10
Yes? Yeah, we were debating between the Moby and the Omnipod five because at that time, it was not approved for her age. But I, after I did, like, a ton of research, I was like, You know what, I really want to try this. And we, luckily have an absolutely wonderful, excellent endocrinologist. And she was like, let's go. Do you want to be experimental? Like, I will fight for you. Let's get it and let's try it. She had, didn't have anybody else that was on that pump, but she was like, we'll figure it out. And the diabetes educator that we have, she is also type one herself, and she had been on an Omnipod, but she was like, You know what, I'm gonna test out the Moby before you come in, just so I can, like, have something to, yeah, contribute in terms of, like, self management. And so she tried it out for like, three weeks before we went in for our appointment to learn how to use the pump and put up, you know, all the settings and everything. And it was just great, good. It was a great experience. Yeah, listen
Scott Benner 21:10
for the people listening, no matter what side of this you fall on, it's omnipod.com/juicebox or tandem diabetes.com/juicebox. Just, I don't care which one you get, just use my link. Yeah, that's the world we live in now, kids, you got to click on those links. Or Scott, he's not making this podcast awesome. So I'm glad you found something you like so quickly. That's it's fantastic. Did you do the software update recently? Yep. What did that change? If anything? So
Hannah 21:35
it has really helped with trickier foods, like like pizza or, like, she loves ramen, which is just the death of me. But like, the other day, we were able to do a much longer, extended Bolus. We could do one for five hours to get on top of something, get on top of something. And she, she had had, like, a little mini personal pizza, and she didn't get above 124
Scott Benner 22:01
Well, that's awesome. Isn't
Hannah 22:03
that good? Amazing?
Scott Benner 22:03
I think all the aid systems should maybe rethink the fact that there's a need for extended boluses, or, you know, that kind of stuff, split boluses, whatever you want to call them. Those are valuable tools that we for some reason. Some people were just like, oh, I guess we don't need this anymore because it's automated. I'm like, Ah, automated. I'm like, I don't think you're like, you're thinking this through, but yeah, I assume they'll all get to that position again. Yeah, yeah. Awesome. Okay, so how does she handle having diabetes? She's so little,
Hannah 22:33
definitely in the first few months there was some resistance, but honestly, she's been a real trooper through the whole thing. Very occasionally we'll get times where, like she doesn't want to wait for a snack or something, and so she's just like, why can't I be normal? I don't want diabetes. And then two seconds later, she's like, I love having diabetes. So it's, it's very interesting. But I mean, she she handles site changes really well. Her Dexcom changes she handles well. The worst part, honestly, is taking stuff off of her. She hates having things removed, yeah, but she she does great. She the first thing she tells everybody is like, Hi, my name is Jude, and I have type one diabetes. And she'll then explain what happened to her pancreas and how she needs insulin because her body doesn't make it. No kidding, yes, it's really great. Actually, do
Scott Benner 23:26
people respond and go, Hey Jude? Because that's what I would do. I'd be like, Yes, I do, yeah, of course. Right? Everyone says, Hey, Jude. Door, no. Oh yeah. Did you name her after the Beatles song?
Hannah 23:36
Yes, yeah. Our son is named after a Beatles song as well. His name's let it be No, his name is Maxwell. Oh, that's awesome.
Scott Benner 23:47
How old are you? I'm 36 who seeded the Beatles into you my
Hannah 23:52
aunt and my mom. No kidding. That's
Scott Benner 23:56
awesome. I forced the Beatles on my kids at an appropriate time so that they would appreciate it. Yeah, I think I've talked my kids into believing but I've told them before. I'm, like, really think about it. Like, right now today, a Beatles song comes on the radio. Everybody can sing it, right? Billy Joel almost falls under this like, like, yeah, totally right, this space too. And I said, like, pick up popular song from this year. And I think the first time we started talking about it like this, like, Meek Mill was huge One summer, I said, Cole, if 50 years from now you are singing a meek mill song, dig me up and tell me, because I want to know. I was like, because I don't think that's going to happen, yeah. And I was like, There's something like, I don't know what it is, if it's like when it happened, or how different it was, or how widespread it was, or it was because nobody had access to anything else at the time, you know, like it was just but it doesn't explain why a 34 year old would name both of her kids after a Beatles song so many years after those songs were written, like there's Scott. To be something special about them that I don't know if you can quantify it or not. Yeah, yeah, the husband agreed with all this. Or was he like, I have a slayer song I want to name
Hannah 25:10
America. No, he's a big Beatles fan too. So it was perfect. It
Scott Benner 25:14
really is. So you guys just sat around listen to music during covid and fell in love, huh?
Hannah 25:18
Yeah. I mean, mostly watching Marvel movies. But, yeah,
Scott Benner 25:21
really, do you watch them in chronological order? Or we have a long argument around, like, where do you watch and do you include the the old Hulk movies when you watch straight through? So,
Hannah 25:34
yeah, so the old, the oldest Hulk movie, that is, like, technically, part of it isn't streaming on anything, or wasn't at that time when we were watching them. So we did not watch that one, but we we didn't do it in like timeline order, but we did it in release order. So starting with the first Iron Man movie, and then went all the way through till the end of the Infinity saga. Do
Scott Benner 25:59
you feel like the newer stuff after end game is terrible. Or do you think that it just, it's up and down, it's hit or miss. So may I say, I hope this is something people care about. But I have a similar feeling about the Marvel movies that I I do about the Beatles stuff. Like, I think it just captured a moment. Yeah, right. Like, there was something going like, they finally figured out superhero movies and like, and I mean that, like, I'm much older than you, but trust me, if I went to the theater to see Superman, the first one that guy was in underwear, okay, yeah, it wasn't good, okay. Like, Christopher Reeves was, like, fine and all, but like, it just wasn't that great. Yeah, we loved it. We thought it was awesome. But, you know, oh my God, he's flying like he looks like he's flying. I the same feeling when I saw Star Wars in the theater. I was like, Oh my God, those are spaceships in space. Yeah? And like, right now, you don't have those thoughts anymore, because the stuff is, is so awesome. But anyway, like, there was something that had to happen. Because those Marvel movies, they were like, they're coming. And even if one came out, and you were like, is that a Thor movie in an RV, like, this is not awesome, yeah, you didn't care, because you felt like, you felt like, well, I know the next big one's coming, and this kind of keeps us attached to it on its way. Like, it like, you know, the the first Ant Man movie had that feeling right? Like, all that stuff, yeah. But then they get to end game, and what happened? Did it just feel like it stopped? My son's like, they should just pick new characters, put new actors with them, and do it again. I don't know if that would
Hannah 27:39
work. Yeah. I kind of feel like it's a Lightning in a Bottle situation, like I don't know if they're going to be able to get back to that. It's just
Scott Benner 27:48
over, right? Yeah, yeah. And you have to wait for the next thing to organically happen, yeah, to catch that again, I agree. All right. Listen, I run around here all the time, and I think if you enjoyed that time. You're thanking Jon Favreau for it, yes, definitely, really, is it right? Like he's the one who's like, Hey, I'm gonna take that drug addict and make an Iron Man movie, because that's how it was back then. Like, Robert Downey was like, persona non grata. Nobody was touching Robert Downey, yeah. Listen, there is an awesome news report of him showing up by, think, naked in his neighbor's house, so nobody's touching. Robert Downey Favreau picks, I know today, in 2025 you say Iron Man, everybody's like, I know exactly what that means. But back when they made that Iron Man movie, that was a side character, nobody gave a about, oh yeah, that's how he got them to give him the IP to make the movie because they were, like, you wanted to move what I find, try it. Who cares? Yeah, but he's perfect. The whole thing's perfect. That Iron Man movies awesome, right? Yeah. We have a lot of arguments around here. If it's Iron Man one, then Iron Man three and Iron Man two, or vice versa. Arden has some pretty, like, strongly held beliefs about what order those movies are valuable in. It's so funny that Arden loves all that Marvel stuff, because, and it does really put a like a thumbtack in your idea of like lightning in a bottle, because it just hit her at the right time. Yeah? Because, if you take her to other movies that are more modern, like that, like, she doesn't give a about them, yeah, really interesting. Did you almost name your kids after Marvel characters, or was it always
Hannah 29:24
going to be Beatles? No, it was always going to be Beatles. I've always wanted a daughter named Jude, like since I was a teenager.
Scott Benner 29:30
That's awesome. On our initial list that we made for Cole's names, that you know, the first list where you just say every ridiculous name out. Oh, my God, Anakin was on that list.
Hannah 29:44
That's funny. I'm a huge Star Wars fan too, but I don't think I would name my kid, Anakin.
Scott Benner 29:48
No, I know. But back then, I was like, oh, that's different. You know, it got, I want to be clear, it got struck off in one of the very first like, yeah, mark down. I don't know if everybody does this. So we made an exhaust. Of lists of names, and then we'd, like, whip it out almost every night after work. And like, we'd sit in the living room and we we'd read them out loud and somebody and you could just veto it. You could just go, No, I'm done with that one. Like, I wanted to name a girl Madison. And Kelly was like, I am not okay with that. I was like, lost that one pretty quickly. Yeah, I think if I wasn't there, Kelly would have named Arden Serafina, really? Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, it's interesting. So anyway, neither here nor there, but there is a name that was on Kelly's initial girls list, and then Arden shared her baby name list with us one time, and that same name was on it. I can't remember. I can't believe, I can't think of what it is right now, but I thought that was interesting too, because it's not a name that we talked about around the that we talked about around the house at all, all right. Oh, I'm so sorry. So you made a baby and it came out, and now it has diabetes, and she's doing great, and your husband's doing great, but that's not what you wanted to come on the podcast about, like, your note is so specific, it took me by surprise,
Hannah 30:56
yeah, so I, as much as I have tried, I cannot understand why some people are more prone to DKA than others. Okay, so like, you know, like my daughter has had ketones, moderate ketones one time, and it was when she had flu B, like, a month ago. But other than that, like she is, even when she was getting diagnosed, it was like trace like, and her sugar was, like, 797, and they were like, yeah, no, she's not in DKA. She's She's doing good. Like, they literally, like, gave her insulin and sent us home and told us to come back in the morning.
Scott Benner 31:33
Why is this something you think about? I think
Hannah 31:36
because I see so many posts about people's kids like getting sick and going into DKA, or, like so many diagnosis stories of DKA, which I know is just mainly people not noticing that the symptoms are diabetes, you know, like they're just thinking their kid is sick, you know. Like, I see things on Reddit where people are like, Oh yeah, I want to try low carb. And somebody else will comment and be like, I tried doing low carb, and I ended up in DKA three times. And so it's just like, makes no sense to me. Like, I feel like some people just like, end up there a lot. And so how to, like, my kid doesn't.
Scott Benner 32:14
Why does one person have like, a low carb diet and do great on it, but another person has low carb diet, obviously, it reduces their insulin needs, and then they end up in DK because they're not taking enough insulin.
Hannah 32:25
Yeah, it's like, I get, I understand, like, why people go into DKA, but it just seems like some people are so much more prone to it. I looked at your
Scott Benner 32:36
note this morning, but this is crazy. I never prepare for the podcast. Oh, wow. But this
Hannah 32:41
maybe it's because I messaged you yesterday, like, should I be doing something? Yeah, you were a little panicked.
Scott Benner 32:45
I might have put it in my head. I was like, Oh, maybe I should look like, what did she write in that thing? Because you're like, what should I be doing? And I'm like, doing what it was
Hannah 32:51
is, I was listening to the episode that came out this week, and the lady had sent you, like, a list of things that she wanted to cover. And I was like, Oh, I did not I, what should I be doing here?
Scott Benner 33:04
I think I know which one you're talking about. She was, like, over prepared. Like, I think I commented in the middle of it, like, yeah, I was like, I'm like, I know people think I must be doing a great job of leading this, but I'm just following her, like, exhaustive outline that she put together. Yeah, I'm just, I'm just good at doing it, and you not knowing I'm doing it, but I'm going to tell the truth here and tell you we're just going to look at something very quickly. Because I asked your question this morning into our overlords. I said, Why are some type ones more prone to DKA, or are they not? And like, because I wondered, like, maybe you're just seeing ghosts. You know what I mean? Like, maybe, maybe that's not true. And if you ask chat GPT or other AIS really specific questions, like, Hey, how come there's more people with DKA than blah, blah, blah, it'll follow the it could follow the thread of the of the question and want to give you an answer that responds instead of thinking through both sides. What it said was some people at type one are more prone to DKA, but their reasons are multi factor, so it makes a listing here biological and physiological differences. First listing is insulin deficiency severity. People who produce little to no residual insulin, as measured by C peptide levels, are at higher risk. So that's just saying. Like some people are further along and aren't making any insulin. Some people probably are still making tiny amounts of their own endogenous insulin. Those newly diagnosed or with long standing type one diabetes have less beta cell function and are more vulnerable hormonal counter regulation. Some individuals experience stronger counter regulation responses, high glucagon, cortisol, growth hormone, with accelerated ketone production during insulin deprivation, body compensation and metabolism. Leaner individuals may enter ketosis more rapidly due to lower glycogen reserves. And people with high insulin sensitive. Activity can still develop decay If insulin deliberately is disrupted, as their fat metabolism kicks in quickly. Jenny and I did a hump as a pro tip about this or defining maybe, but the difference between ketones that you have from eating low carb and ketones that you have from not having enough insulin are different, right, right? So, if you have a higher ketone level because you're super low carb and you're burning fat and etc, it doesn't necessarily mean you're going to be in the hospital. But the ones you brought up about people are like, I tried to eat low carb and I ended up in DKA. That's not just them saying they had ketones. They they're, you know, if we're taking them at their word they had DK, right? Maybe they had such low insulin needs because they were so low carb and they just weren't using enough insulin. I don't know. This goes on. It says insulin delivery issues, of course, like, you know you could have a pump malfunction. Like obvious. There's obvious reasons why somebody could be in DKA, an illness or infection. Infections ramp up insulin requirements. Without proactive insulin increase, EPA can develop, but that's really just still talking about you're not using enough insulin for your needs,
Hannah 36:10
right? Yeah, yeah. Like, we had one situation where, like, my daughter woke up and she had been at 180 all night and we hadn't. Our alarm is set at 200 overnight, so, like, we never, never got an alarm. Nobody woke up. And in the morning I went to get her out of bed, and her site was ripped out. And I was like, Oh my gosh, I wonder when that happened, considering you've been so high all night. And she goes, Oh, do you remember last night when I jumped off the couch and I said something hurt? And I was like, yeah. She was like, It ripped off. Then I just put it back on.
Scott Benner 36:41
Hey, I stuck it back on. It was fine, okay.
Hannah 36:44
I was like, okay, so you have literally been without insulin for 12 hours. How do you feel? She's like, I feel fine. Like, no, no, stomach ache like, nothing like that. No, I'm hungry. Can I have breakfast?
Scott Benner 36:57
That's so lucky. The one time that Arden had a cannula come out, literally one time. And the whole time, we found I should, knock on wood or something, but, but she woke up in the morning and she was like, she was, you know, green, and not feeling good at all. And we realized that the cannula had been out for a while. But her blood sugar, I forget what exactly happened. It didn't rise right away. And then once it rose, it was overnight, and we didn't get a signal. Who knows what happens? Then you wake up. Oh my God, what's going on? This is interesting. People don't like AI, some of you and some of you do. I think you're both overreacting. On either side of it. This goes into other things. It's like, hey, there's, there's psychosocial and environmental factors. Some people don't have access to care. They don't have access to CGM or good healthcare support. People can get burned out and like and talk about things. Really like, it's complete. You know, teens and young adults are at higher risk to decay hormone surges, risky behavior, sometimes lower parental oversight. Really like, this is more thoughtful of a response than you would, uh,
Hannah 38:02
than I would have expected. Yeah, same.
Scott Benner 38:05
You know, all things being equal, and you're getting your insulin, why would somebody have ketones before another person? I think there's probably a ton of different reasons. Yeah, are you just worried that it's going to happen to your daughter and you don't
Hannah 38:19
know what to look for? No. I mean, I'm I know what to look for. I think I'm just, like, trying to make sense of how different it can be for every person. Because it's like in, you know, intellectually I understand, like, everybody's diabetes is different. Yeah, I think it's more of like a thought exercise for me.
Scott Benner 38:38
Yeah, I was gonna say, Are we more talking about like, you're a young mom with young kids who have a recent diagnosis, and you're trying to game out the entirety of the next 20 years, so you understand
Hannah 38:52
maybe, maybe, because I'm like, you know, I'm a very like, forward thinking person, I always kind of want To be prepared for what could be coming. I already am thinking about, like, hormones related to menstruation and, like, Okay, what's gonna happen if she eventually, like, grows up and wants to have a kid on her own? Like, how's she gonna handle it during pregnancy? Like, I am always kind of thinking about what to expect in the future. Like, I would just want to be prepared.
Scott Benner 39:19
Yeah, you're right. You're worrying about the entirety of everything. Yeah. Were you like that before you had kids? Yes, yep, awesome. Did you find that to be a lot of fun?
Hannah 39:32
Fun is a word for it. Do you have anxiety? Oh, definitely,
Scott Benner 39:36
yeah, I do. Yeah. I was gonna say because that's anxiety, worrying about stuff that you don't can't control them as an area, yes,
Hannah 39:44
yeah, my therapist loves it because
Scott Benner 39:46
you're buying them a boat. Is that probably so you're anxious before the kids, did you get a layer of mom with that mom guilt thing? Did that come to or no? Yeah. Um, you already jacked up so much you can't tell the difference already there. Did the diabetes add to it? Or do you really not have any ceiling left?
Hannah 40:13
Yeah, no. I mean, I've had health anxiety about myself forever. Okay, so you know that's, this is just run in the middle.
Scott Benner 40:21
It's just a day in my head. Scott, okay, yeah, you had health anxiety about your self. What were you worried about?
Hannah 40:29
Well, it's definitely just from stemming from anxiety. Like, if I was anxious about something, I'd be like, hey, my heart's beating really fast. I must be having a heart attack.
Scott Benner 40:40
You found yourself in the emergency room telling that to anybody?
Hannah 40:43
No, I never have, because I'm like, anxiety is like, in my family, so, like, I've seen my he would kill me to say this, but whatever, he won't listen to this. I have seen my dad deal with anxiety, like, my whole life, and so I know, okay, this is just that, like, I feel like I'm dying. Yeah, and I might be thinking to myself that I'm dying, but I know that I'm not, and if I just lay down for like, an hour, I'm gonna feel better. How did it hit your dad? He had really bad anxiety when it came to, like, flying. So anytime we would travel, he would just get, like, really, like, tightly wound, have a little bit of a short fuse, so it was easy to see he also had a stressful job, which didn't help.
Scott Benner 41:27
Oh, really, did your mom have any of the anxiety?
Hannah 41:31
No, not really. I learned, like, later as an adult that she frequently was, like, very overwhelmed about, like, just noise and like, commotion happening around her. I didn't recognize that so much as a kid. How did you find out about it? Well, so I come from a big family. I'm one of four kids. My oldest sister has six, and then my other one has two. I have two. My brother doesn't have kids yet, but everybody was in the house at the same time for somebody's birthday. And I am very sensitive to sounds, and get overwhelmed and overstimulated, like, pretty easily. And I was sitting on the couch with my mom, and I was, like, deep breathing, and she's like, are you okay? And I'm, like, real overwhelmed right now I'm trying to calm down. And she said, yeah, that's my entire life. I was like, what?
Scott Benner 42:25
Thanks for sharing. Yeah, maybe you could have shared sooner, yeah. So you and your mom are just in the corner, just doing the 54321, yeah. It's nothing specific, right? There's not necessarily anything wrong happening. It's just, there's a lot of happening, happening.
Hannah 42:43
Yeah, exactly, too many sounds at once.
Scott Benner 42:46
Yeah, I don't have, I don't know. I'm so sorry to not be able to commiserate with you on that. Yeah, it's okay. Yeah, I know people like that, but I don't. I just feel lucky. Honestly, that's the truth. Like when people talk about that, I just feel so lucky that I actually don't know what you're talking about. Because, yeah, it sounds horrifying. Hey, Jude,
Hannah 43:11
more and more like bang, bang. Maxwell, silver hammer. That's
Scott Benner 43:17
what it sounds like in the room when everybody laughs. Oh, my God, did you almost, uh, name the kid after the raccoon? No,
Hannah 43:26
um, Rocky was on the list for him. Had to be. It means there's limited options. Yeah, it was, yeah, our list for him was, it was Maxwell, Rocky and Rigby and my husband right right away was like, We are not naming him Rigby. So it was between Rocky and Maxwell
Scott Benner 43:42
Rigby stuff. How you're pulling that off exactly. Yeah. What's your favorite Beatles song that nobody knows is a
Hannah 43:51
Beatles song? I love something. Okay,
Scott Benner 43:57
yeah, okay, yeah, okay. That makes sense to me. I like the one about being up on the hill. What is the mood? What's that song? Why can't I think of it, pool on the hill? Oh yeah. I think I like that one a lot. Yeah. Nevertheless, do you do you prefer the more artistic Beatles later, or the be Boppy ones from the beginning?
Hannah 44:17
I really enjoy a mix like I even like the experimental stuff, like Norwegian would. Most people are like, What the heck with that? But I enjoy that all of it's pretty good.
Scott Benner 44:30
Okay? It's hard to find a bad Beatles song, honestly, yeah, every once in a while, like, one will come on and I'll be like, I didn't know. How did I not know this was a Beatles song? But there's so few of them for the mass amount of like, their catalog is so big, totally. You know, I think my my least favorite time is when Paul McCartney got into the 80s by himself, like, and still, some of those songs are really good. But it gets a little like,
Hannah 44:57
I gotta say the worst Christmas song. Oh, ever is a Paul McCartney song? What is it? Oh, gosh. What is it called? I can, like, hear it in my head, but it's like, there's, it's like, since ish or simply having a wonderful Christmas time. Oh,
Scott Benner 45:15
it's the worst. I would have to say. That's my thought too. Is that when McCartney gets into more electronic instruments like I don't find that very musical. Yeah, that part hurts me a little bit. Did you watch the documentary of the making of the last album that the Lord of the Rings boy made?
Hannah 45:32
Which one was that? Oh my gosh, I think I know what you're talking about. Was it on Disney? Yeah, yes, I did. Yeah. It was really good. It was, I agree. I found
Scott Benner 45:43
it so sad to think of like, like, to watch them all in that room and realize, like, like, this is the end of the Beatles right here, right yeah, it's happening right now. They are falling apart. And it's just, I don't know. I found it very strange and then, because it just leads to the, I mean, I don't know if they would have kept going. Maybe the next album would have been garb. Have been garbage. Like, I have no idea, you know,
Hannah 46:04
yeah, but I find it best not to question just
Scott Benner 46:08
it's okay that it went this way. Yes, yeah. I don't imagine that 50 years from now, people are going to be like, you know, I was watching that documentary about dochi. I really found it sad about how it was all falling apart at
Hannah 46:23
the end. Yeah, no, people, no, I don't think that's gonna happen. That anxiety, yes, theme song to my life.
Scott Benner 46:35
Isn't that even interesting? Like her pathway to like you getting her music is tick tock.
Hannah 46:41
Yeah, yeah, crazy. It is weird, yeah. But also, she, she grew up and went to high school, like, 30 minutes for me. So, oh,
Scott Benner 46:49
really, did you know about her before the rest of us? I
Hannah 46:53
did not, not before the rest of us. But I, because she's from Tampa, like, you know, her name is, like, out there, yeah, so, yeah, maybe, maybe just before she got, like, you know, Grammy famous, but yeah,
Scott Benner 47:07
Tampa is a wild place now. Yeah, it's interesting. Where are you from? Are you from there
Hannah 47:14
originally? I am from here originally. Yeah, my husband is from New Jersey, and so he's like, we gotta get out of here. We gotta go back up there. Do you call it
Scott Benner 47:26
temper when you say it? No, no, but that's colloquial, right? Like temper.
Hannah 47:32
I've never heard anybody say like that, honestly.
Scott Benner 47:35
I mean, the person I heard it was a real hillbilly, so that might be why, yeah, so your husband wants to retreat. He wants to come back north.
Hannah 47:43
Yes. And I would love to also do that. I have never liked Florida. What's wrong with Florida? First of all, it's hot all the time, all the time. There's maybe three weeks of like, semi decent weather. It's terrible. It's so humid, not to get political, but like, we are very, very left
Scott Benner 48:06
leaning, so politics don't fit with where you're at.
Hannah 48:09
Yeah, it's it's not. We don't really jive with the politics
Scott Benner 48:13
in Florida. You're up in Tampa. But let me ask you a question, why are the Florida Keys and not a more popular vacation destination? Isn't it really like being in the Bahamas, but still being in
Hannah 48:24
Florida, I've actually never been there, so I don't know. I just,
Scott Benner 48:28
I keep wondering, because sometimes I hear it's not a very safe place. Yeah, that is my understanding as well. That sucks. Because, man, what a what a gem. Like, we have our own Caribbean islands. Like, we just don't, like, yeah, you know, I'm saying I don't know if it's really an island. Is it a peninsula, or is it a series of small islands, okay, disconnected by an actual road, right? Yeah, crazy. Of course, it's crazy. We were like, Hey, there's a bunch of islands out there. We'll build a road to it. Who thought of that? What crack head is, like, I could build a road on the ocean? Yeah, I don't know they did it, though. No, it's amazing. Like, I there's another one somewhere up north, and it goes over, like, such a long body of water. And all I can think when I'm driving over, it's like, everybody's like, what if we fall in? We're gonna die. And I'm like, what if we fall in? Who did this? How did they get that pillar into the ground? This is amazing,
Hannah 49:20
I know. And there's a road that goes underground. I think it's in it's either England or France, or maybe it goes from England to France, I don't remember, but, yeah, it goes underneath the ocean. Yeah, it's
Scott Benner 49:31
awesome. It's crazy. I just think it's amazing. And then, you know, you see that done, and then you like, look up, and you're like, we can't figure out healthcare. Like, you can't figure out healthcare. There's a road in the ocean. Give that guy the problem, he'll figure it out in five seconds, or her, whoever ends up being this is crazy. All right, have you ever found anything that's made your anxiety better?
Hannah 49:53
Yes, running and yoga really measurably different. Yes, yep. One I don't I definitely like feel my anxiety heightened. I have less patience, just, you know, tough having too little cancer. So I always, I really need to make sure for myself that I do those things, running in yoga
Scott Benner 50:18
and a measurable benefit to your life. Yeah, why do you not do it then? All the time?
Hannah 50:24
Well, it's hard to find the time sometimes, but I do try to get up early, before work, before anybody else is awake, and try to get it done. Sometimes it doesn't. Doesn't happen that way, but, but I
Scott Benner 50:37
try every day my life is thwarted by somebody else. I came home last night and I walked in and my son and my wife are like, in the I think they're in the living room, like, watching videos together and laughing. They're just they look delighted. They're just laughing. They look up at me, and I was like, they're like, what's up? And I'm like, I don't want to complain. And my wife's like, yeah, don't, don't complain. I was like, I didn't even stop myself. I should just kept going. But it's like, it was like, how it was like, how could it be that without people, my life would be sad and lonely, and with people, my life is very frustrating,
Hannah 51:13
because that is the human condition.
Scott Benner 51:15
Why is there no middle ground on this? Like, why can't you all just chill out and be cool. Yep. She's like, Who do you mean? I'm like, at the moment, I'm just talking about the girl at the counter at Walgreens, but I was like, but all of you, I love you guys, but you're killing me. And I'm sure they feel the same way about me. Like, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying like, otherwise, but like, yeah, it's just like, What a weird mix of like, whatever this is, like, every problem I have is from another person. Mine are
Hannah 51:47
mostly from myself, but, you know, also other people.
Scott Benner 51:51
Hannah's like, I don't actually have time to get to the problems other people are giving to me because I am keeping so many of them on myself. You know, life in the way, you can't do the things that help your anxiety. I don't know how to like ask this question, does the boy have anxiety too?
Hannah 52:05
Worse than me,
Scott Benner 52:07
that how you found each other?
Hannah 52:08
I mean, maybe partially, it was definitely something we bonded over.
Scott Benner 52:12
I imagine two tuning fork shaking, but when you hold them together, they stop
Hannah 52:16
eventually. Yeah. I mean, I think we, we are able to really balance each other out a lot of times. Like, typically, we're not both anxious at the same time, okay? Or, like, if we are, usually the person who's more anxious, like, gets to have that moment the other one pulls it together and is the support person.
Scott Benner 52:40
Oh, that's interesting. So you can hold it together, vice versa, like, for the other person, yeah. I think the whole thing's just inflammation connected.
Hannah 52:50
I mean, I would not disagree with that.
Scott Benner 52:54
Do wonder if, like, I wonder if they're gonna figure that out ever, like, yeah, you know, there's that story about when, when they first they were, they is, maybe I'm completely wrong about this, but it's a story I've heard right, like so that, when they first came up with steroids, just like, you know, you know, like a Z pack, or not a Z pack, but like a story pack you would get, right? Yeah, when they first came up with those, they thought they had fixed mankind. They were like, these things are magic. You don't feel sick anymore. You have more energy. You have more clarity. Blah, blah, blah, yeah, they didn't realize you couldn't take them forever, and when you came off them, there'd be this horrible rebound that would go the other way and everything. But for like, a half a minute, they were like, Oh, we did it. Like, this is it? We fixed we fixed humans. And there are problems, meaning that all those years ago, people were still thinking about the same exact thing they're thinking about today. We're talking about it differently. Like, oh, there's inflammation. And, like, you know, have you heard that? I heard somebody went on a GLP and their inflammation went down, and this got better for them, and blah, blah, blah, like that really does seem like it's such the crux of the problem for so many different people like you. Probably your kid probably ends up with type one diabetes, somewhat related to inflammation. Yeah, you know that kind of like, hand in hand, that autoimmune inflammation have together, celiac, Hashimotos, arthritis, lupus, like these things are, like, you know, they they chronically attack your body. There's an immune activation, blah, blah, blah. Like, I clearly don't understand the whole thing. But like, I talked to so many people, I genuinely think, let me start over Hannah, that if I started another podcast and didn't talk to people who had type one diabetes, I would not hear people bring up anxiety as much. Yeah, that's my guess. So, yeah, I just, I don't know, it sucks. And then people start talking about, like, your gut health, like, have you ever tried to attack it that
Hannah 54:40
way. I mean, I guess probably I am currently, like, working through some like, it's very important to me to have a healthy relationship with food and bodies for my kids, because that's something I didn't grow up with. Okay, yeah. In the past, I have, like, kind of been down those, like, quote, unquote wellness rabbit holes, and, like, tried to be a vegan and be vegetarian or whatever it is, try whatever new thing I see. I honestly gotta say, nothing has really, like, helped.
Scott Benner 55:18
It's frustrating. It really is. What was I gonna say? There was that documentary actually that I always give Rob crap about other stuff, but let me give like Rob the editor, he set me up with this documentary one time, and it was about gut health, right? And so at some point in the documentary, they tell a story about how they did like fecal transplants with people. So all right, and this might get hippy dippy for some people, but you know, so this woman, she wanted to try to take a fecal transplant from another person. They put it in capsules. You take it, you're seeding your gut with like, somebody else. Anyway, it's a thing for real,
Hannah 55:55
trust me, yeah, no, no, I know there's some decent science behind that, actually.
Scott Benner 55:59
So then she does it from like, I forget what it was her boyfriend or her brother, one of the other, yeah, I don't remember which. The first person she does it with is an anxious person, and she's not anxious, and she takes the fecal transplant and develops anxiety, really, yeah. So then she switches to the second person, the brother or the boyfriend, or whatever, likes to another person, and then all of a sudden, the anxiety goes away, but she has another issue that the brother has. And I'm like, and I know I'm forgetting the details at this point now, but trust me, that's the gist of it, exactly. Yeah. And then I'm going to tell you that four weeks ago, Arden, who has, like, already has giant tonsils. Like Arden's tonsils look like chicken hearts in the back of her huge right? And she gets tonsillitis a lot. That's terrible, yeah? So she made a decision on her own a few weeks ago. She's gonna have her tonsils removed in August, and this is not going to be fun. They like light saber. Them off. They have to crust over and scab. They're, yeah, they can't really tie them off or anything. Like, you have to drink, like, soft liquids for two weeks. Like, it's not, it ain't good, okay, yeah, but she's been through it so much that she's gonna do it. It's her decision. She wants to do it. We're, you know, supporting her. We're taking care of it, yeah, because she's been sick so many times, but a month ago, when she got tonsillitis out of nowhere, the doctor gave her, the doctor, I think, she went to urgent care, and they gave her amoxicillin. Okay, in 48 hours, her acne was completely gone. Really, she hadn't been on amoxicillin in a very, very long time. So this is like, like, a data point, right? So I just looked at her one day, I'm like, your acne is completely gone. And she goes, Yeah. I feel like I remember this happening one other time when I took amoxicillin, and I'm like, really? And I was like, okay, all right, remember that now three days into the tonsillitis, she's not better, so the doctor's like, Okay, well, I guess amoxicillin is not going to cover it. They gave her a broader spectrum antibiotic, which, by the way, also didn't stop the tonsillitis. She ended up, she ended up, a week later in the emergency room, getting IV antibiotics. It was really terrible. Okay, yeah, which is why she's getting her tonsils removed. But this is neither here nor there. So just yesterday, we went to a dermatologist, and I said, like, look, here's all the things art has tried. Like, she's got type one, she probably has PCOS, she probably has this, yeah, right, right. She probably has this. That all these things, blah, blah. Here's the things we've done. Here's everything we've done. And we've noticed a change. And I even told her, I said, at one point she, you know, when she started using a GLP, I said, Art and basically, micro doses a GLP for insulin resistance, yeah. And it also helps her with, like, the PCOS symptoms. But I've also seen her acne get better, but not perfect, just better. And I said, So I'm willing to believe that that's inflammation being reduced, and so her acne gets a little better. I'm like, but trust me, I looked the woman because I think she thought I was crazy for a second, and I said, Look, my kids had type one diabetes since she was two. My son's got Hashimotos. My wife has the hypothyroidism. Like I said, Scotty is paying attention, okay? Like I'm really looking hard. I'm not making this up. I'm telling you that amoxicillin, boom, shut off her acne just did, and I said, and now she's been off it for a while, and it's starting to come back again. And I'm like, and I looked at her, and I went, That's gut health, right? Like, it's maybe a little inflammation, because, yes, it can help with inflammation, but, like, it's gut health, isn't it? And I watched her really, really think I saw that I was taking her outside of, like, the zone that she usually works inside of. She goes, I'd have a hard time arguing with that. And I was like, Okay. And I said, so is there anything topical you can give her that has an antibiotic based and she goes. Oh, you know what? Yeah, there is. I was like, Cool. I'm like, Can she get that please? And like, you know, because, like, the rest of it, like, she's done everything, like, it dries you out, it goes away for a little bit, it comes back worse, like, that kind of stuff. Like, right? Nothing's ever really worked for she's like, Yeah, I mean, that makes total sense to me. And she's like, of course, you can't take amoxicillin forever. I'm like, No, I'm not saying that. I'm like, but this is a data point. Like, we changed Arden's gut drastically, quickly and her acne. I'm not, I'm not kidding you, Hannah, it's just gone, right? Yeah. And I was like, that's the answer, right there. And then I thought, but how do you like fix that. Do you know what I mean, like, because her body obviously goes in a direction. So, like, We're trying, like, like, some, like, high quality probiotics to hopefully, like, pre seed things in a more positive way. But I don't know how long it'll stay like that, or not, or Yeah, is your anxiety in your in your stomach? You know what? I mean?
Hannah 1:01:01
Yeah. I mean, that's a good question. I don't personally have a ton of, like, GI issues. My husband definitely does, and he always has, and I have wondered that about him. If his is related to his gut health.
Scott Benner 1:01:19
You're like, what do you do? Like, how do you like, because we ran into this by mistake. Obviously, the tonsillitis brings on the amoxicillin. I'm not, by the way, I'm not telling everybody, go take amoxicillin. I'm saying, I'm saying that this was a very specific pathway that we got to this idea, and I don't know if it's going to work out. But, like, that's the other thing too. Is like, when we left there yesterday, I could see it on Arden's face. She's like, this isn't gonna work. Like you like, it's just like you said that earlier. You try things, you try things, you try things, they don't work. Eventually just give up and you go, I guess this is it like, this is what happens,
Hannah 1:01:50
yeah, yeah, yeah. It is interesting, because you think, you know, like, everybody's body is a little bit different, and you know, you have your predispositions to certain things. And, yeah, it's hard, it's hard to know what, what was is gonna work, or, if anything will,
Scott Benner 1:02:06
they're gonna figure it out five seconds after I die. I know, yeah, probably I know I'm gonna drop that. They're gonna be, oh, it was a switch. It was under your toe. We found it. Never mind. Oh my gosh. They're actually waiting for you to die. Yeah, they're waiting for me to die so that they can like, but there are people who believe that, you know that one day you'll have a box attached to you, and you'll just turn all the dials and move everything to where it's supposed to be, and things will just work.
Hannah 1:02:30
I mean, maybe you never know. Well, wouldn't
Scott Benner 1:02:33
that be crazy? Like, isn't that what a GLP is, though, for some people, yeah, right, definitely. We just use these medications in such a crude way, still, because we don't really, I mean, I don't think we have the technology, the understanding to, like, just give person. I guess what I'm saying is that there are a lot of people on GLP medications, and they're on standard doses because we've figured out, like, these are safe, and they seem to work in a lot of people. Yeah, those amounts are not they're not right for everybody, it's a lot like insulin, honestly, yeah, you know, you got, you know, except insulin, because you're getting the feedback so quickly, you can figure out what your settings should be if you're kind of paying attention to it. So, right? Hannah, have I bored you to death? Are you done? No, you're done with me now. No, not at all. I have to record again in a little bit, I'm gonna have to say goodbye, okay, because I'm doing a follow up with the mom whose daughter, her teenager, went on GLP for weight, and then their insulin needs almost completely went away. Oh, wow. So I'm doing a follow up with her, because her kids story like I keep in touch with her through text messages. But if I'm not mistaken, I'm gonna get on the phone or I'm gonna get on the call today recording and learn that this kid is now using like a unit of basal a day. Oh, wow, down from 70 units of insulin total every day.
Hannah 1:03:58
Holy. That crazy. That is nuts.
Scott Benner 1:04:02
That's one of the things. Like, it's obviously a very specific thing to this person. Like, I'm not telling you, like, if you go on, GLP, you're not gonna need any insulin. I'm genuinely not saying that. But like, it's happening to this one person, and she has type one, she has markers for type one, like, all that. Like, it's that that's not like in dispute, but she had had diabetes for years, and was up to like 70 units a day. Was gaining weight, like all this stuff. As a teenager, the mom had struggled with PCOS in the past. They thought maybe that was happening to the kid. The mom had success with GLP, so they gave the GLP to the kid, and then her insulin is just kept falling. Yeah, like, and I've seen her graphs, they're insane. Yeah. Anyway, I'm going to talk to her and try to get a little more about that out of her, see where that's going. You were awesome, though, I really do appreciate this. Oh, thank you. You're welcome. Thanks for talking to me. Did I let you down? I feel sometimes I let people down. No, no, no. Well, I'm sorry you started saying something. I feel like we didn't get through it completely. Like, do you have five more minutes? Sure. Wait, wait, tell me more about your relationship with food. Oh,
Hannah 1:05:12
just I, like, grew up in a very like diet culture type of family, and so it has taken me a really long time to work through all of that. Like, I remember going on a diet the first time when I was, like, eight years old. So, you know, I've had a lot of, I mean, therapy related to it, but also, just like, even outside of therapy, like my own personal like, work that I've tried to do, to really, like, mend my relationship with with food, because it's important to me that, like, my kids learn what it's like, that like, food is just food. Like, we don't have to, like, think like, oh, I ate ice cream. So I need to go exercise for an hour to like, negate that. Like, I want them to be able to just like, enjoy things like, Sure, understanding like, nutrition is important, but also, like, we don't need to be beating ourselves up about, you know, maybe not eating the most, like, balanced meal when
Scott Benner 1:06:14
you were younger. This come from your parents. Yeah, was one of them overweight, and they were always working on it, or something like that.
Hannah 1:06:22
See, that's the thing is, like, my my parents are not like, huge people by any means. Like, they've definitely, like fluctuated, but I've seen it happen like with them, like, basically, like, Yo Yo dieting, okay? Like, my mom has really always been, like, like, very normal, like, thin person and like my dad, I kind of have his build, like, stockier, but definitely not like, like, he was never, like, obese or
Scott Benner 1:06:51
anything, yeah. I hear you every girl's dream to be built like their dad, right? Yeah,
Hannah 1:06:58
yeah. I would never say that he was, like, an obese person, yeah, but like, you know, I always remember like, being chastised basically, about, like, not eating enough vegetables, or like, but mostly it was them, like they, you know, they did, like, Atkins diet back in the day, Weight Watchers, Like they've done all of the things, and, like, it was very, like, they were very open about it. And so it kind of made me really self conscious about eating in general. And like, one of my sisters definitely has, like, a very unhealthy relationship with food and, yeah, like,
Scott Benner 1:07:44
just been a lot. It's a lot, yeah, and then you got to get through it. And it's, I talk to people all the time that have different eating disorders, and it just sounds like a, I mean, it sounds like
Hannah 1:07:54
a horror, yeah. And especially with the type one I'm like, I'm very conscious of the fact that eating disorders are higher in this population, and I want to be very cautious of that,
Scott Benner 1:08:06
of that, okay, like, the people come up to you and say, like, you need to lose weight. Where was that? Just directly to you? Yeah?
Hannah 1:08:13
Like, totally right in my face. Like, hey, I'm worried about, I'm worried about you. You should, you need to be thinner, or people aren't gonna like you really, yeah, or people aren't gonna like you yeah because of the way you look, I like
Scott Benner 1:08:30
you. That's enough, yeah? But, oh, wow, all right, Mom, thanks. That's awesome. Yeah?
Hannah 1:08:37
Well, my mom didn't say that to me those that was my
Scott Benner 1:08:40
dad. Oh, yeah. Oh, geez. Good times, good
Hannah 1:08:45
times. And
Scott Benner 1:08:46
understand how you can be a parent, be in charge of the food, in charge of the activity, and have lived a life long enough to know that sometimes things, just for reasons you can't even figure out, go a certain way, and then just turn to somebody and go, Yeah, you more carrots. Yeah, you think that's it, that you think that'll handle it, do you? Yeah? And
Hannah 1:09:06
honestly, like, I know from having a conversation with him, like he would not even remember that he said that to me, yeah? Like he wouldn't even remember the conversation, because it's not in his mind. Like, that's not what he was telling me. Yeah,
Scott Benner 1:09:19
there's no malice in what he was saying, as far as he knew, right? Yeah, just the way it it hits you and it sticks to you. Yeah? That sucks. So you're working on not having that happen for your kids. Yes, awesome. Oh, that's good, good for you. I mean, that's a that's life is just breaking circles. So, yeah, you break the chain. You know what I mean. All right, what did we say? We were calling this one lesbian energy. I'll just tell Rob at the end, if he hears something he likes better, he can tell me, but yeah, sure, it's a pretty good episode. All right, thank you kind of hold on a second for me. Thank you very much. Sure. Yeah, you.
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