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Diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes during pregnancy, Brooke discusses the shock, her baby’s NICU journey, and the overwhelming reality of managing a chronic illness while raising a newborn.

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Scott Benner (0:00) Hello, friends. (0:01) Welcome to the Juice Box podcast. (0:03) Happy holidays to everyone juggling carbs, cookies, and the chaos of this season.

Brooke (0:22) My name is Brooke. (0:24) I am 29 years old, and I was recently diagnosed with type one, and that was during the pregnancy of my first child.

Scott Benner (0:33) If your loved one is newly diagnosed with type one diabetes and you're seeking a clear practical perspective, check out the bold beginnings series on the juice box podcast. (0:43) It's hosted by myself and Jenny Smith, an experienced diabetes educator with over thirty five years of personal insight into type one. (0:50) Our series cuts through the medical jargon and delivers straightforward answers to your most pressing questions. (0:56) You'll gain insight from real patients and caregivers and find practical advice to help you confidently navigate life with type one. (1:03) You can start your journey informed and empowered with the Juice Box Podcast.

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Brooke (2:30) My name is Brooke. (2:32) I am 29 years old, and I was recently diagnosed with type one, and that was during the pregnancy of my first child.

Scott Benner (2:40) Your baby gave you diabetes, Brooke?

Brooke (2:42) Yes. (2:43) She did.

Scott Benner (2:45) Is it your first pregnancy? (2:47) Yep. (2:47) Wow. (2:48) How long have you been married with the person that made the baby with you?

Brooke (2:52) We were my husband. (2:54) We were

Scott Benner (2:55) That would have been another way to say it.

Brooke (2:56) Yes. (2:57) We got married last September 2024. (2:59) So we were only married about three, four months before we got pregnant.

Scott Benner (3:04) Okay. (3:04) In, your family line, any other ladies on your side of the family have gestational diabetes ever?

Brooke (3:10) No. (3:11) I don't think so.

Scott Benner (3:12) K. (3:13) Are there autoimmune issues, with your mom, your dad, your grandfather, your uncles?

Brooke (3:19) This is kinda distant, but my great grandmother had Crohn's disease. (3:23) So that that's the only thing.

Scott Benner (3:25) Well, now we can stop blaming the baby and start blaming her.

Brooke (3:28) Yeah. (3:29) Great grandma.

Scott Benner (3:29) Yeah. (3:30) Great great you probably don't even know her. (3:31) Right?

Brooke (3:32) I did. (3:33) Actually, she lived until she was in her nineties. (3:36) So she lived until I was 19.

Scott Benner (3:37) Woah. (3:38) I saw Yeah. (3:39) Oh, I no kidding. (3:40) I saw Dick Van Dyke telling a story the other day about his son, and his son is 78. (3:47) Woah.

Scott Benner (3:47) And he joked and he said, I am old enough to be Joe Biden's father. (3:51) And I was like, that's insane. (3:53) So he has two living sons in his in their seventies, and he's about to turn a 100.

Brooke (3:57) Oh, my gosh. (3:58) That's crazy.

Scott Benner (3:59) Isn't that really I mean, awesome, though. (4:00) Well, I mean, for him, not for us. (4:02) I'm not I'm not gonna live that long.

Brooke (4:04) Yeah.

Scott Benner (4:04) I know I'm not. (4:05) I know you people are gonna kill me with the stress you give me. (4:08) Sorry. (4:09) No. (4:09) It's not your fault, but it is.

Scott Benner (4:11) You get married, get pregnant pretty quickly. (4:14) I'm just gonna ask, did you do it on purpose?

Brooke (4:16) We did. (4:17) Yes. (4:17) Awesome.

Scott Benner (4:17) Good for you. (4:18) And then the baby starts to, percolate, and then what happens?

Brooke (4:23) So nothing really showed signs until my third trimester. (4:27) So, you know, in pregnancy, they do the glucose testing right around your third trimester. (4:33) And at that time, I got my a one c checked. (4:36) I was actually going to have a home birth, so I was doing things a little differently. (4:41) And my midwife decided to just check my a one c because we thought I was low risk, no reason to believe that I was not healthy.

Brooke (4:49) Got my a one c checked, and a week later, it came back 8.1. (4:54) And this was about, like, twenty nine weeks pregnant, so I was pretty far in. (4:58) And I would say the only symptoms that I had were the excessive peeing and really thirsty, but that's normal things in pregnancy, so I didn't think anything of it. (5:10) Checking my a one c, it was 8.1. (5:12) And she said, okay.

Brooke (5:14) So this basically means that you have uncontrolled diabetes. (5:18) You're high risk now, so you're gonna have to switch to a regular OB, and then things just went from there. (5:23) So it was very far along in the pregnancy that I found out.

Scott Benner (5:27) Going back over those first six months, hindsight, the peeing and the thirst, how long was it going on?

Brooke (5:35) Only, like, two weeks. (5:36) It was really, like, maybe around twenty six weeks of pregnancy. (5:40) So I really didn't have any symptoms. (5:43) The only other thing that might be kinda odd is I didn't gain a whole lot of weight. (5:48) I was pretty sick my first trimester, so had the whole morning sickness thing and was throwing up for, like, two months straight.

Brooke (5:56) And so I actually lost 10 pounds. (5:58) And then I gradually gained a little bit during the second trimester, and then it kinda just stopped. (6:05) So I know that a lot of times when people get diagnosed, they lose weight. (6:08) So kinda weird because I was growing a baby, but then I wasn't really gaining weight. (6:12) So that might have been another thing, but that was really it.

Scott Benner (6:15) So what what do you theorize here? (6:16) Do you think that, like, where most people would say, oh, you have gestational diabetes. (6:20) Do you think you were just became type one during the pregnancy?

Brooke (6:24) Yeah. (6:25) I don't even think it was gestational. (6:27) Yeah. (6:27) From what I'm trying to put together in my head because it's still very confusing for me, but I guess I was maybe genetically predisposed and then the pregnancy just triggered the autoimmune response that started type one. (6:40) So I think it's just been type one this whole time.

Scott Benner (6:43) A little baby isn't there like a little virus just Basically. (6:46) Yeah. (6:47) Trust me. (6:47) When do you try to raise it? (6:48) They are viruses.

Brooke (6:50) Oh, no.

Scott Benner (6:52) Wait till it yells at you one day. (6:54) Oh, my god. (6:55) What a moment.

Brooke (6:55) Yep. (6:56) You're

Scott Benner (6:56) you're like, I didn't have to do this. (6:58) You're welcome.

Brooke (6:59) I know. (7:00) Thanks, baby.

Scott Benner (7:02) At some point, I believe every child in the world says, I didn't ask to be born. (7:07) That's a Well that's a nice moment for you. (7:09) Yep. (7:10) I can give you the top 10 right now, Brooke, so you can gird your loins and get ready for it if you want.

Brooke (7:15) Oh, yeah. (7:15) I got a lot of preparing to do.

Scott Benner (7:17) I've been listening to somebody the other day talk about being a parent, and they were just advocating for it just, like, wonderfully, like, you know, about all the good it brings. (7:25) But they also highlighted how the people describe their saddest years of their life between 25 and 45. (7:33) And then somebody else said, well, that isn't that the time when you're raising children? (7:36) And he was like, well, yeah. (7:38) You know?

Scott Benner (7:38) And then the guy, like, kind of begrudgingly says there is a study that says that people who don't have children report being happier.

Brooke (7:44) Oh, no. (7:46) I mean, it's a huge transition. (7:48) Like, everything just think about back to the days when my husband and I could just leave the house and go to a brewery and not worry about anything and everything's different, but Yeah. (7:57) Everything's different for the better.

Scott Benner (7:59) Yeah. (7:59) Yeah. (7:59) You you keep telling yourself that. (8:01) Yeah. (8:02) It was it a doula, by the way, or a midwife?

Scott Benner (8:03) Or are they the same wife. (8:05) Are they not the same thing?

Brooke (8:06) No. (8:07) So a midwife is essentially the same thing as a OB. (8:10) A doula is just emotional support. (8:12) So the doula wouldn't actually deliver the baby. (8:15) They would just kinda be there to help support you, and then the midwife would actually deliver the baby.

Scott Benner (8:20) So you could have both?

Brooke (8:22) Yes.

Scott Benner (8:23) Yeah. (8:23) So you have the midwife and then, like, some hippie girl that talks to you while you're doing your thing.

Brooke (8:26) Exactly. (8:27) Yeah. (8:27) For which I ended up hiring a doula once I switched to the hospital, and she actually was very helpful. (8:33) And she held my hand when I pushed and all the stuff, so she was very helpful.

Scott Benner (8:38) Did she bring gems or stones to hold on your belly by any chance?

Brooke (8:41) She brought essential oils, which I thought were great.

Scott Benner (8:45) I like you, Brooke. (8:46) Yeah. (8:47) I'm a little hippie. (8:47) Yeah. (8:48) Yeah.

Scott Benner (8:48) I was gonna say I'm hearing it now. (8:50) The husband, he not qualified to hold your hand during the birth?

Brooke (8:54) Well, he held one hand and then she held the other. (8:57) And then well, not to get sad, but we had a NICU baby. (9:02) So he had to go with her to the NICU. (9:05) And then while I was being stitched up, my doula stayed with me. (9:08) So it's kinda nice to have two people there.

Scott Benner (9:10) Well, stitched up, did they give you an episiotomy or or a c section?

Brooke (9:14) I delivered vaginally, but a lot of the times you tear, which I guess I tore.

Speaker 3 (9:19) So

Scott Benner (9:19) I wish you wouldn't have said that word out loud. (9:21) But Yeah.

Brooke (9:22) Every woman goes through it, so they know what I'm talking about.

Scott Benner (9:25) Listen. (9:25) I know. (9:26) I was there when a couple of them happened.

Brooke (9:28) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (9:28) Yeah. (9:29) But not the point. (9:30) Point is, I just got that, like, horrible, like, thing up my spine. (9:33) I was like,

Brooke (9:34) I know. (9:35) I can't

Scott Benner (9:35) get it. (9:35) It didn't happen to me, and it couldn't happen to me, and I'm still freaked out by it.

Brooke (9:39) Yeah. (9:40) Yeah. (9:40) I can't believe it happened to me.

Scott Benner (9:42) Well, so the baby needed to go to the NICU because it was underweight, overweight? (9:46) Like, what was the issue?

Brooke (9:48) She was born at thirty three weeks. (9:50) If they're born before thirty four weeks, they require NICU stay. (9:55) And so she I guess, before thirty four weeks, their lungs aren't fully developed. (10:00) So she had to go to the NICU to get on breathing support and then feeding tube and all the stuff.

Scott Benner (10:06) Oh, that sounds scary.

Brooke (10:06) It was tough. (10:07) Yeah.

Scott Benner (10:08) Yeah. (10:08) Were you able to see her as much as you wanted or not particularly?

Brooke (10:12) I guess right away, not really because I was, you know, getting stitched up and I had to stay in the hospital for a few days. (10:20) But then after that, I could go see her as much as I wanted to. (10:22) So she stayed in for three weeks and I was pretty much there every day all day.

Scott Benner (10:27) Did your husband make that terrible joke about throwing in an extra stitch?

Brooke (10:30) No. (10:31) Thankfully.

Scott Benner (10:33) It's like an old seventies joke. (10:34) Oh. (10:35) I'm only aware of because I I'm old. (10:38) Can you imagine if that at all just happened? (10:40) They were whisking your baby away to the to the NICU.

Scott Benner (10:43) They're like, well, we're gonna have to do some stitches now. (10:45) And you just heard him going out the door and yelling, throw in an extra one. (10:48) You'd be like, unbelievable.

Brooke (10:50) I'd be so mad

Scott Benner (10:51) at him. (10:52) Oh, god. (10:52) The doula would throw her essential oils right at him.

Brooke (10:54) Oh, yes.

Scott Benner (10:55) Yes. (10:55) Inner crystals. (10:56) Inner crystals? (10:57) Do you have essential oils in the house now, like, with one of those vaporizer things?

Brooke (11:02) I don't want the vaporizer, but I've always kinda had essential oils, you

Scott Benner (11:06) know Okay.

Brooke (11:07) For different things.

Scott Benner (11:07) Alright. (11:08) I I there's a candle in my bathroom right now. (11:10) It smells awesome. (11:12) I said to my wife, I like, why does the bathroom smell so good? (11:14) She goes, there's a Christmas candle in there.

Scott Benner (11:16) And I was like, oh.

Brooke (11:17) Christmas candle. (11:18) Fantastic. (11:18) Is it cookie scented?

Scott Benner (11:20) I don't know. (11:21) All I know is these those are things I would not own if it wasn't for Kelly. (11:24) So it is nice. (11:25) Would I maybe if Kelly disappeared, do you think I'd go like, let me get a candle for the bathroom at Christmas? (11:30) Maybe I would.

Scott Benner (11:31) Who knows?

Brooke (11:31) Maybe you would. (11:32) Now that you know, it helps. (11:33) Yeah.

Scott Benner (11:33) It depends on how bored I am. (11:35) Talk to me about those months. (11:37) Right? (11:37) Like, you

Speaker 3 (11:38) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (11:38) You have this you know, you're thank God, like, somebody checks your blood sugar. (11:43) Right?

Brooke (11:43) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (11:43) And transition over to a hospital care. (11:46) And then I wanna I wanna hear about that step by step. (11:49) You get to the hospital, what changes, and what are those next couple months like before before the baby arrives?

Brooke (11:55) So I switched to a regular OB. (11:58) And if you're a high risk pregnancy, you have to work with maternal fetal medicine. (12:02) And they have a whole diabetes team. (12:05) So I switched to their care, and I start working with the diabetes educators. (12:11) And they were super helpful.

Brooke (12:13) They set me up with a CGM. (12:15) They explained insulin. (12:17) They checked my blood sugar while I was there. (12:19) I was I think it was, like, 300 that day. (12:22) So they were like, these are the things that you're gonna have to do to manage this for the rest of pregnancy.

Brooke (12:29) And I was very in denial. (12:31) I thought, like, there's no way this isn't just gestational or maybe it's just type two and it's gonna go away. (12:38) Like, I didn't know that type one was really a factor at this point.

Scott Benner (12:42) Okay.

Brooke (12:42) And I didn't really understand the difference between type one and type two. (12:45) I the only thing that I understood was that, well, I thought type one only happened in childhood, teenage years, and I didn't really realize that it could happen at any point. (12:56) And it also meant that you had to have insulin. (12:59) So I didn't really understand a lot of it. (13:01) So I was like, okay.

Brooke (13:03) Well, this I'm gonna, you know, help this with diet and lifestyle. (13:07) Like, I'm gonna get my blood sugars under control. (13:09) I'm not gonna have to go on in with insulin. (13:12) I think it was, like, two weeks went by before I actually started the insulin, and I got my blood sugars down to, like, the low one hundreds just by tuning in my diet. (13:22) So at that point, the only thing that I couldn't really fix was my fasting numbers.

Brooke (13:27) In pregnancy, they want it to be under 95 when you wake up, and I was like one ten, one twenty. (13:34) So I did have to go on insulin. (13:36) They set me up with a long lasting and a rapid, and that helped me manage it. (13:42) And at some point along the lines there, I don't remember exactly when, but they suggested getting the antibodies test to rule out type one. (13:51) Mhmm.

Brooke (13:52) I guess is there three different antibodies you could have?

Scott Benner (13:55) I mean, I think there's five, isn't there? (13:57) Okay. (13:57) Yeah.

Brooke (13:58) I'm not exactly sure, but I think I had three of the antibodies or maybe all. (14:02) So they were like, yeah. (14:03) This is probably type one. (14:05) They kinda explained to me, like, after pregnancy, you're gonna have to switch to an endocrinologist, and this is gonna be a lifelong thing for you. (14:12) So I still was kind of in denial that that was true.

Brooke (14:15) I was just like, there's no way this happened to me. (14:17) Like, it's gestational. (14:19) It's gonna go away. (14:19) Like, whatever.

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Brooke (16:54) Because I didn't understand type one, I think. (16:57) I just was like, there's no way that this just developed during pregnancy. (17:01) And even the doctors kinda seemed confused about the fact that you can get type one during pregnancy. (17:07) I don't know. (17:08) Have you ever heard of that?

Brooke (17:09) Because they've seemed like they've never had anyone develop type one during pregnancy.

Scott Benner (17:14) I mean, just because they haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. (17:16) Yeah. (17:17) Also, five antibodies associated with type one diabetes, GAD 65, IA two, that's isolate antigen two antibodies, IAA insulin auto antibodies, ZNT eight zinc transporter eight antibodies, and ICA isolate cell cytoplasmic antibodies. (17:37) You one positive antibody can in, indicate an autoimmune activity. (17:42) Two or more consider strong evidence for type one diabetes or a very high risk if not diagnosed.

Scott Benner (17:47) Kids with multiple antibodies almost have a hundred percent lifetime risk of developing type one.

Brooke (17:53) Okay.

Scott Benner (17:54) So

Brooke (17:54) Yeah. (17:54) I'm pretty sure I had three. (17:56) So I guess I'm in the boat of type one.

Scott Benner (17:59) You also could have had them for, you know, for a long time.

Brooke (18:03) Yeah. (18:03) And that's what I still don't really understand. (18:05) If I had them for a long time, I don't understand why I didn't have symptoms until

Scott Benner (18:10) Because you didn't have diabetes yet. (18:12) You just had the the antibodies are just there. (18:14) So, like, you know, I mean, do you remember being sick before pregnancy, a virus or, you know, a a kind of a prolonged illness, anything that might have taxed your your immune system?

Brooke (18:26) The only thing that I dealt with was, kind of TMI, but I had abnormal pap test results. (18:33) So I had abnormal cells on my cervix that lasted about six to seven years. (18:39) And they said that typically what I had would clear itself within, like, a year or two, and my body would could not clear whatever this was. (18:49) And so there was an indicator that I had a weak immune system because I just couldn't clear it on my own. (18:56) So that would be the only thing.

Brooke (18:57) But aside from that, I felt extremely healthy prior to pregnancy. (19:01) So it was definitely a shock.

Scott Benner (19:04) Yeah. (19:04) So, I mean, I'm picking around a little bit here and asking our overlords. (19:09) Obviously, pregnancy doesn't create type one diabetes, but it changes the immune system, hormones, and some resistance in ways that can maybe unmask or accelerate their progression if you already have antibodies. (19:19) Mhmm. (19:19) Like, so you know, I mean, just something that shifts your immune system.

Scott Benner (19:24) The pregnancy could you know, definitely does that. (19:26) Yeah. (19:26) Right? (19:27) You get, a big hormonal insulin resistance, like, twenty to twenty eight weeks, like, right in there.

Speaker 3 (19:33) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (19:33) Who knows? (19:33) Like, you know, is it bothering you? (19:35) Is it a feeling like you'd like to have an answer?

Brooke (19:39) I think I'm coming to accept it. (19:41) In the moment, it was it definitely did bother me. (19:44) I just was I just was like, how did this happen to me? (19:46) I don't understand. (19:47) You explaining that helps even more.

Brooke (19:49) Think every day, I'm just kind of accepting it and learning more about it and understanding that this is my new reality.

Scott Benner (19:56) Okay. (19:56) And you are you having a reasonable time with that transition or or is it like, are you seeing a therapist or do you feel like you should? (20:03) Do you need somebody to hold your hand or rub oil on you or something?

Brooke (20:07) Essential oils definitely would help. (20:10) No. (20:10) I I think I'm doing okay. (20:11) I think it helps that I'm in the honeymoon phase because it's kind of like a slow transition. (20:17) Like, I'm it's slowly I need to take more insulin.

Brooke (20:20) And so I have a transition into it, and it's not just like one day all of a sudden, I have to take tons of insulin and my blood sugars are all over the place. (20:28) So I'm managing it pretty well.

Scott Benner (20:30) Good. (20:30) Good. (20:30) Did you I'm sorry. (20:31) You did have to take insulin during the pregnancy. (20:33) Right?

Brooke (20:34) Yes. (20:35) Yeah. (20:35) It was like since I gave birth at thirty three weeks, it was probably only for, like, two weeks that I actually did. (20:41) But yeah.

Scott Benner (20:41) And then do you see an endocrinologist separate for you during that time?

Brooke (20:46) Maternal fetal medicine handled me until I gave birth. (20:51) And then once I gave birth, they passed me off to endo. (20:53) So I had my first endocrinologist appointment, like, three weeks after she was born.

Scott Benner (20:59) The diagnosis isn't really about you while the baby's on board.

Brooke (21:03) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (21:03) It's more about the pregnancy. (21:05) Like, you are the pregnant. (21:06) Yeah. (21:06) Is that right? (21:07) Like, it's more like you are the pregnancy and then, you know, we're we're managing pregnancy.

Scott Benner (21:12) And now that the baby's Mhmm. (21:14) Been extracted, now we go and you get your type one diabetes diagnosis the way everybody else does and you go through the process.

Brooke (21:21) Yeah. (21:21) And I think that might also be why I was a little just, like, in denial because until I saw my endocrinologist, he was like, yes. (21:29) You have type one. (21:31) You're in the honeymoon phase, and he gave me all the facts. (21:34) Whereas before, it was kinda like everything just seems so up in the air.

Brooke (21:37) So once I had the endocrinologist appointment, I was like, okay. (21:39) Like, this is what's going on.

Scott Benner (21:41) Makes a lot of sense, actually. (21:42) But there's some great insight in there. (21:44) I appreciate you sharing it like that.

Speaker 3 (21:46) Mhmm.

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Brooke (23:02) It's very overwhelming. (23:04) I guess I don't know any different. (23:06) Like, I don't know what it's like to have a baby or be pregnant without this going on. (23:12) So I don't know what it would be like if I didn't have type one. (23:15) So I think every mother goes through a period where they're very overwhelmed and there's a lot going on.

Brooke (23:20) But that's, I mean, the best I can describe it. (23:23) It's very overwhelming. (23:25) And, obviously, you have to always put the baby first. (23:28) And so, you know, her needs come before my needs. (23:32) And there's times where I don't always get to check what my blood sugar is and maybe not take insulin exactly when I wanted to.

Brooke (23:40) And I try to exercise after meals and stuff like that just to keep my blood sugar lower, and there's times I can't do that. (23:47) So I guess you just really have to prioritize the baby. (23:51) And so sometimes the diabetes stuff gets put on the back burner.

Scott Benner (23:54) How long ago was she born?

Brooke (23:56) She is almost three months.

Scott Benner (23:58) So Yeah. (23:59) So wow. (23:59) This is all very fresh.

Speaker 3 (24:01) Yes.

Scott Benner (24:01) How did you find me so quickly?

Brooke (24:03) So my husband, he loves to go on Reddit, and he was, just looking up people with type one and what they had to say on Reddit. (24:12) And a lot of people were talking about doctor Bernstein.

Speaker 3 (24:16) Mhmm.

Brooke (24:16) And he had a Facebook page called type one grit or something like that. (24:21) Yep. (24:22) And so I went and looked on that page, and I hadn't read the book at that point. (24:28) I still I think I only read, like, a chapter or so. (24:30) They want you to have fully read the book and be on his diet to join that page.

Brooke (24:35) So it suggested, like, other resources. (24:37) And I don't remember if they suggested your Facebook page or your podcast, but whichever one I found, and then I found the other. (24:44) And I love listening to podcasts, so I've been listening to your podcast, like, two episodes a day, something like that.

Speaker 3 (24:49) So

Scott Benner (24:50) Okay. (24:50) Well, so hold on. (24:51) That's crazy. (24:52) So you your husband found people talking about a very, like, low carb approach to type one diabetes. (24:58) And you tried to find a Facebook page for that approach, but they wouldn't let you in until you read the book and were on the diet?

Scott Benner (25:07) Yes. (25:08) But then who told you about me? (25:09) Like, were you in a different Facebook page and people were like, oh, you can go talk to Scott's people now. (25:14) Is that how it worked?

Brooke (25:15) I think in the like, you know when it sometimes asks you questions when you join a Facebook page? (25:21) I think in there, it had links to other either Facebook pages or podcasts and resources. (25:26) So I just clicked on one of those links and it took me to wherever.

Scott Benner (25:30) That surprises the hell out of me. (25:32) I and I I just and I just Brooke, if that's the case, I just have to tell you, like, I and I have no malice. (25:37) I don't think the low carb community is a fan of mine. (25:40) So that Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:41) I mean

Scott Benner (25:41) freaks me out. (25:42) I don't know. (25:42) Anyway, what's up, brothers? (25:44) Like, I I think it's cool. (25:45) I think everybody should be sharing everything.

Scott Benner (25:47) Like, I genuinely if you want to, you know, follow the teachings of doctor Bernstein, I think that's completely reasonable. (25:53) And I also think it's completely reasonable if you wanna do a number of other things. (25:57) I like the idea of people having options, seeing what's out there and, you know, and making their own decisions. (26:03) So anyway, if that's the case, I I really appreciate it. (26:07) And we'd, I'll tell you, we have a a number of people who who eat very low carb in my group, and we're happy to let them share as well about how they do things.

Scott Benner (26:15) I only ever kinda step in if people start to proselytize. (26:19) If you come into my into my group and every question that's asked is answered with, like, well, you have to do this or go try this right away. (26:28) Like, I'm like, alright. (26:29) Like, you you're just on a you know, you're just trying to get people from here to wherever it is you think they should be. (26:34) Like, just you can tell them, hey.

Scott Benner (26:35) This works for me and, like, you know, give it a shot. (26:38) But if you start posting 12 times a day about it, like, I feel like maybe there's something going on. (26:43) Yeah. (26:43) Alright. (26:43) Doctor Bernstein, he lived to 90.

Scott Benner (26:46) Yeah. (26:46) He just passed this year. (26:48) Really

Brooke (26:48) Oh, I didn't know

Scott Benner (26:49) that. (26:49) Astounding. (26:49) Yeah. (26:50) He passed away in April. (26:52) But that it's just an astounding life, you know Mhmm.

Scott Benner (26:55) Doing that. (26:56) So okay. (26:56) Alright. (26:57) That's awesome. (26:58) And then you found the podcast.

Scott Benner (26:59) You liked listening to the podcast. (27:01) So what did you get out of it that I mean, because you're on the show pretty quickly.

Brooke (27:05) Yeah. (27:05) I think I reached out, like, I don't know, only a couple weeks after listening to your podcast. (27:10) I mean, I just love hearing other people's stories and relating to what they're going through. (27:16) And I think something that made me wanna reach out was when I was diagnosed, I was, like I said, very confused about the fact that it happened during pregnancy. (27:26) And I did find on Reddit that there's a lot of other people who've had the same experience out there, and I kinda wish that I saw more of that and I heard someone's, like, full story in a podcast or something like that of getting diagnosed during pregnancy.

Brooke (27:42) So kinda made me just wanna share my story. (27:44) I wasn't sure if you had ever had anyone on with a similar story, but I figured I'd like to share.

Speaker 3 (27:51) So

Scott Benner (27:51) Well, I appreciate that. (27:52) And I it doesn't matter if anybody's been on before talking about something similar. (27:56) I I think we need to keep having conversations so people can keep hearing them. (27:59) So Yeah. (28:00) Okay.

Scott Benner (28:01) So you made a point earlier that, like, you work a little bit in denial, then a lot in denial, then, you know, back again. (28:09) Is there something that you can point to that a doctor said to you that actually made you feel like, okay. (28:14) This is actually happening to me. (28:15) Like, I gotta wrap my head around it. (28:17) Was there something valuable that was said to you that helped you with that?

Brooke (28:21) I think my endocrinologist explaining honeymoon because I didn't understand that. (28:26) And leading up to that point, I was not taking a whole lot of insulin, and there was even a couple days in the hospital where I didn't have it. (28:34) Once I started learning more about type one, it's like, you need insulin. (28:38) So I was like, how did how do I have type one and not need insulin? (28:42) So when he started explaining the honeymoon phase and he got my c peptides checked, I think it was.

Brooke (28:48) Mhmm. (28:49) And that confirmed that I was in the honeymoon stage because I still had some insulin being produced by my own body. (28:56) So I think understanding that and how it was a transition into it made sense for what was going on with me.

Scott Benner (29:04) It just really does occur to me that being pregnant and giving birth and being told at the same time, right, like, have type one diabetes and here's all that comes with that. (29:19) You said overwhelming, but, like, you're really, like, underplaying it. (29:23) Right? (29:23) Like, I mean, it wasn't just overwhelming. (29:26) It was probably insane.

Brooke (29:28) Yeah. (29:28) Life changing.

Scott Benner (29:29) Right. (29:30) Right. (29:30) And your husband, this guy, I mean, he's not even qualified to hold your hand correctly. (29:34) So, I mean, how how helpful is he gonna be with this whole thing? (29:37) But, no, seriously, like, you're a new you're fairly newly wed still.

Scott Benner (29:40) Am I right?

Brooke (29:41) Yep.

Scott Benner (29:42) Yeah. (29:42) I mean, so you're newly wed. (29:43) You're newly you know, just went through a pregnancy that didn't go the way you expected. (29:47) You had, some big plans. (29:49) They got kinda, you know, smushed up there at the end.

Scott Benner (29:52) I wonder if you still have a full, like, feeling of the impact of what's happened to you.

Brooke (29:58) Yeah. (29:59) I mean, I don't think I do. (30:00) And my husband love him, but he, I think, is even in more denial than I am. (30:07) I think I've come to kind of accept, like, what's to come, and he's still very optimistic. (30:13) Like, maybe it'll go away.

Brooke (30:15) Like, I think he doesn't have as much education on it that I do at this point. (30:18) I mean, I'm still learning so much, still have so much to learn. (30:22) But

Scott Benner (30:22) Brooke, is it too late to switch to a different boy? (30:24) Like, what? (30:26) Wait. (30:26) What are you telling me? (30:27) You feel he has said to you maybe it'll go away?

Brooke (30:30) I mean, I think he's just very optimistic. (30:32) And I think even if it doesn't go away, he thinks I'll be able to manage it with very low insulin, diet, and stuff like that. (30:39) And I keep saying, no. (30:40) I'm gonna have start taking more insulin. (30:42) I'm gonna have to start taking it with meals and that kind of stuff.

Brooke (30:45) So I think he's just very optimistic.

Scott Benner (30:48) Well, listen. (30:48) I'm gonna take his optimism and and say, I'm happy he's optimistic. (30:53) I'm sad I'm sad that that this is the situation and that it it feels like this because you're making me pause at what might be going through a lot of different people's heads in this situation. (31:04) Like, oh, maybe it'll go away. (31:06) Maybe they'll cure it.

Scott Benner (31:07) I've, you know, I've seen people say, a god's gonna take it from, like, you know, like, I've got all different ideas of people clinging to the idea that I want this to change and go back. (31:17) And you're the one saying, no. (31:18) No. (31:18) This is this is how it's gonna be. (31:20) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (31:21) I think that's healthy, by the way, that you're that you're understanding of the situation.

Speaker 3 (31:26) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (31:26) I do think there are people who don't care for themselves as well because they that feeling of, like, hopefulness can turn into, oh, well, I'll just ignore it because this isn't gonna be my life.

Speaker 3 (31:38) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (31:39) And I I I just think you have a great shot at success when you you face it head on like this.

Speaker 3 (31:43) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (31:43) There are things that can help, you know, like as you as you go along, you'll be able to pay attention to I mean, there's a lot of people right now who, you know, experience insulin resistance, are using a little GLP medications that are bringing their insulin needs down that way, you could absolutely decide that eating, like, a a very low carb diet is for you. (32:03) Mhmm. (32:03) You know, that would keep your insulin needs down. (32:05) There's there's a lot of things you could do, but you're in the infancy of it. (32:09) No pun intended.

Scott Benner (32:10) Know, in the infancy of a lot of things. (32:13) Yep. (32:13) How is the baby, by the way?

Brooke (32:16) She's great. (32:17) You know, after she stayed three weeks in the NICU. (32:20) She had the breathing stuff, like the CPAP machine. (32:24) She had a feeding tube. (32:25) But once we got her home, she's been doing great.

Brooke (32:28) So no concerns with her. (32:29) I know that a lot of times when you have diabetes in the pregnancy, the concerns are that they would be a really big baby to start, which she was born early, so that didn't really happen. (32:41) And then they would have low blood sugar issues, but because she was in the NICU for three weeks, they were checking that constantly, and she didn't have any issues with that. (32:49) So she's great.

Scott Benner (32:51) What was her birth weight?

Brooke (32:53) It was five and a half pounds, basically.

Scott Benner (32:55) Wait. (32:55) There is part of me that really thinks that that's a a helpful indicator that you really just weren't diagnosed with type one while you were fighting. (33:01) Because if you if, you know, if you had gestational the entire time, I imagine her birth weight would have been higher.

Brooke (33:08) Yeah. (33:09) And then I also am not sure, like, since she was born at thirty three weeks, she was five and a half pounds. (33:15) That's big for thirty three weeks. (33:16) Had she gone all the way, I don't know if she would have been a big baby.

Scott Benner (33:21) Fair point. (33:22) I'm glad we've talked about it because I I I'd like to understand that. (33:25) Interesting. (33:26) Has your family extended been valuable for you here? (33:31) Your mother I don't know if your mom and dad are together or alive or whatever, but, like, do you have people that, that can help you and and you can lean on?

Brooke (33:39) Yeah. (33:39) They're all very supportive. (33:41) My mom so my mom's prediabetic, and my grandfather, who was her dad, he has since passed, but he had type two. (33:49) So there's some understanding of diabetes in my family. (33:53) They were so helpful at the end of pregnancy and the beginning of bringing the baby home of cooking us meals.

Brooke (34:00) And I just tell them, like, what I can eat and send them recipes and they cook for us. (34:05) So that was super helpful. (34:06) So, yeah, they've all been very supportive.

Scott Benner (34:09) Very nice. (34:09) Very nice. (34:10) You feel like you're set up well? (34:12) Yeah. (34:12) Yeah.

Scott Benner (34:13) Do you feel like you'll want an insulin pump when the time comes or do you think you're gonna try MDI?

Brooke (34:20) I'm definitely considering it. (34:22) I don't know. (34:23) I think there's positives and negatives. (34:25) I've seen, like, videos of people putting their ins or their pumps in, and I don't know. (34:31) They seem painful, and then sometimes they leak and whatever else.

Brooke (34:34) But then on the other side, giving yourself multiple injections a day is also a pain. (34:39) So I'm kind of considering both. (34:41) So we'll just kinda see what happens.

Scott Benner (34:42) You wait and see. (34:43) Are you wearing a CGM? (34:45) Yes. (34:45) Which one?

Brooke (34:47) I have the Libre.

Scott Benner (34:48) Libre three plus?

Brooke (34:49) Yes.

Scott Benner (34:50) Awesome. (34:50) Very nice. (34:51) What are you seeing on the CGM? (34:53) You know, because right now, you're just taking a basal insulin. (34:56) Is that right?

Brooke (34:58) As of this week, I started adding it back in a little bit of rapid, just a very small amount though.

Scott Benner (35:03) Okay. (35:03) What are you noticing? (35:05) Where does your blood sugar sit stable away from meals? (35:08) And what are you seeing as far as spikes could, go at mealtime?

Brooke (35:14) So I do feel like things have kind of gradually progressed over the last couple months. (35:19) Right when I after I gave birth and I got home and everything, I was pretty much sitting in the nineties, like, low one hundreds, and I was only taking seven units of Lantus before bed. (35:32) And then, interestingly, I saw those numbers start to creep up, especially at night. (35:37) I would get into, like, the one thirties, and it was too high for what I was comfortable with. (35:42) So I reached out to my endo, and I said, hey.

Brooke (35:45) I'm noticing my numbers are creeping up. (35:47) I'm starting to eat foods that I wouldn't spike on before, and I'm starting to spike on now. (35:51) So would you recommend adding back in rapid and upping my lances? (35:56) And he said, no. (35:57) He said, your numbers are fantastic.

Brooke (35:59) In his opinion, he wanted as long as my a one c's under seven. (36:04) For me personally, I would like it to be, like, under 5.5 ideally. (36:09) So I kind of ignored his advice and started adding more Lantus. (36:13) And so now I'm taking eleven units of Lantus before bed, like, two units with a meal if I feel like I need it. (36:20) And so I'm staying pretty stable.

Brooke (36:22) I usually don't go over, like, one forty, one fifty.

Scott Benner (36:24) Where'd you get the nerve to do that?

Brooke (36:27) Your podcast.

Scott Benner (36:28) Oh, sorry. (36:29) Hi, everybody. (36:30) I'm glad for you. (36:32) I think, you know, I I'm I'm gonna try to say this as much as I can. (36:36) I believe that people who have the most success with type one diabetes have good tools.

Scott Benner (36:40) They have a good understanding of how insulin works, and they feel empowered to make changes to their settings.

Brooke (36:47) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (36:47) I think that's a big deal. (36:49) Being able to say my needs have changed, and I don't need to stare at it for six months or ask, you know, a committee of people to decide whether or not I should go from, you know, point five to point seven. (37:00) Yeah. (37:00) Oh, that's awesome. (37:01) So you're you're continuing you're not having any lows that that are worrisome?

Brooke (37:06) No. (37:06) We're no lows really at all. (37:08) Occasionally, I'll, like, dip into the high sixties, but it'll come right back and I've haven't had any issues.

Scott Benner (37:15) Does a high 60 feel any certain way to you or no?

Brooke (37:18) Not really. (37:19) No.

Scott Benner (37:19) No. (37:19) You don't feel low No. (37:21) At that number. (37:22) Are you using a meter once in a while to check, make sure that Libre is giving you a good number?

Brooke (37:26) I was at the beginning and I stopped, so I probably should.

Scott Benner (37:29) Yeah. (37:29) Look every once in a while. (37:30) Doesn't hurt anything. (37:32) Especially in the extremes. (37:34) You know what I mean?

Scott Benner (37:34) Like, I'd love to know if a 69 is really 69. (37:37) And Yeah. (37:38) I'd love to know if a, you know, a one eighty is is not two forty, that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (37:42) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (37:43) Yeah. (37:43) I guess what I'm I'm interested in, like, you're so new to this. (37:47) And like you said, it's not even, full on, oh, I got, like, type one and all the insulin and everything's happening right now. (37:54) And you have somebody on your side who you love and you care about who's telling you, like, maybe it'll go away. (37:59) And and, you know, and you're like, no.

Scott Benner (38:01) I don't think so. (38:02) Like and the baby's there and she are you breastfeeding?

Brooke (38:06) Yeah. (38:07) I'm breastfeeding, pumping.

Scott Benner (38:08) And you're breastfeeding, you're pumping and, like, you

Speaker 3 (38:10) work? (38:10) Do

Scott Benner (38:11) you have a job? (38:12) Like, you have to go to work?

Brooke (38:13) I have a very small part time job that I can work from home. (38:16) It's, like, a few hours a week.

Scott Benner (38:17) Okay. (38:18) Alright. (38:18) Well, you don't have to leave the house then, like, go on a schedule. (38:20) That's that's Yeah. (38:21) That's great at least.

Scott Benner (38:22) I'm just like, I'm wondering, like, I mean, it's not what you expected and it's not what you were getting ready for. (38:27) Right? (38:28) So so what is it? (38:30) Like like, when you when you step out of yourself right now and look at this entire situation, how would you explain it to another person as an onlooker? (38:38) Like, what's happening to you right now?

Speaker 3 (38:40) That's a hard question. (38:41) I don't know. (38:42) I it's hard to

Brooke (38:43) take yourself out of the situation. (38:45) But I guess when people ask what's going on, I just say, I got type one when I was pregnant and here we are. (38:53) I mean, I have I'm in the honeymoon phase and it's gradually ramping up. (38:57) Most people don't understand type one diabetes, so I'll explain to them that my pancreas is still producing some insulin, so I don't have to take as much right now. (39:06) But, yeah, we're just taking it day by day.

Scott Benner (39:08) I'll beat them. (39:09) You have such a good attitude.

Brooke (39:10) Thank you.

Scott Benner (39:11) Are you an only child? (39:12) Do you have brothers and sisters?

Brooke (39:14) I'm the middle child. (39:15) I've always been the, I would say, like, optimistic, go with the flow type of person.

Scott Benner (39:20) Well, you really are. (39:21) I mean, jeez, like, go with the flow is is, you know, an understatement here. (39:25) Like, you're not mad? (39:26) You're not scared? (39:28) Are you

Brooke (39:28) I mean, I definitely I definitely have had those emotions. (39:32) But I think when it comes down to it, when you have a baby, it's like, it's about them, and you have to do what you have to do to keep them healthy. (39:40) I've heard you talk a lot about Arden's story and how you just have to do it. (39:43) You don't have a choice. (39:45) And so I just have to put my baby first at this point.

Brooke (39:48) And, you know, obviously, I have to take care of myself too because if I'm not healthy, then she's doesn't have anyone to take care of her. (39:54) But, you you know, as a parent, you gotta do what you gotta do. (39:58) I think it just helps. (40:00) It for me, it helps hearing people's stories, and it helps getting educated. (40:04) And that's why I love listening to podcasts.

Brooke (40:06) Like, I've always been a podcast junkie, and whatever is go I'm going through at that time in my life, I just binge podcasts about. (40:14) And so I'm so glad that I found yours and there's so much content. (40:17) Like, I don't think I'll ever run out of podcasts to listen to, so I'm I'm thankful for that.

Scott Benner (40:22) So two things. (40:22) First of all, would you like to renounce your father and accept me as your father now? (40:27) No? (40:27) Yes? (40:28) It's okay if you don't want to.

Scott Benner (40:29) No. (40:29) You're like, no. (40:30) What the hell kind of I was just kidding. (40:32) You don't have to apologize.

Speaker 3 (40:33) Oh, I know. (40:34) I didn't.

Scott Benner (40:34) Also, I really appreciate you saying what you just said because I just had this conversation last night with somebody who said to me, like, oh, I was somewhere recently and a couple people said to me, like, oh, the you know, the podcast has too much content. (40:48) And I said, those aren't podcast listeners.

Brooke (40:52) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (40:52) And you're making my point here, which is really, really great for me because now I feel like I might have been right about something. (40:58) I think that the podcast attracts a couple of different people. (41:02) I think it attracts people who are been thrown into diabetes or struggling, and they've heard that it could be helpful to them. (41:09) And they come and they find it, and I think they extract from it what they need to go live a better life, you know, and or to get enough tools for building blocks for themselves. (41:19) I don't think you I don't imagine that most people, like, just listen to what I say and just go do it.

Scott Benner (41:23) Like, I think they apply it to their own lives and their own thinking and find a blend that works for them. (41:29) I think then when those people are done and their a one c's and their stability is where they kinda want it to be and their understanding and their comfortability is where they want it to be, I think they kinda go away. (41:38) Right? (41:38) Like, I think they found a thing and it helped them, and now they don't need it anymore. (41:43) And then I think there are other people who show up for all kinds of different reasons who are actually podcast listeners and want to listen to these conversations.

Scott Benner (41:52) And those people, they want something every day, and they want it to be an hour or an hour and a half long.

Speaker 3 (41:59) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (41:59) Like, they're not looking for fifteen minutes. (42:01) Give me something. (42:02) Let me get out of here. (42:03) There are people who like podcasts Mhmm. (42:06) And you're one of those people.

Brooke (42:07) Yeah. (42:08) I find myself if I have a podcast, I really like getting angry if there's an episode that's only fifteen minutes because, like, what can you say in fifteen minutes? (42:16) There's so much to say, and I just love I love the long podcast.

Scott Benner (42:20) Thank you. (42:21) I do too. (42:22) I prefer by the way, I don't even make podcasts at the length that I prefer them at. (42:26) I prefer them around two and a half hours. (42:28) But

Brooke (42:29) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (42:29) When I'm listening myself, there have been times where people have said things like, I this woman said something online the other day that really, like I was like, ugh. (42:37) Like, it hit me right in my soul. (42:39) She goes, yeah. (42:39) I tried the podcast. (42:40) Too much chitchat, she said.

Scott Benner (42:43) Oh. (42:43) And I was like, oh, that's that's the part I'm good at. (42:47) Yeah. (42:48) Oh, no. (42:49) Too much of the thing that I think I'm good at.

Scott Benner (42:51) I was like, oh, no. (42:52) No. (42:52) So but it's easy for a moment to be like, oh, she doesn't like me, but I don't think she doesn't like me. (42:57) She doesn't like podcasting. (42:59) Yeah.

Scott Benner (42:59) An easy thing to lose sight of. (43:01) So when I was explaining to the person about all this, they were like, you know, the person said they would like shorter episodes and more stuff about management and more stuff with doctors and more stuff with that. (43:10) I said, that's the stuff that doesn't do as well.

Brooke (43:13) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (43:14) Like, not by a lot. (43:15) Like, don't get me wrong. (43:16) But, like, if I do where there are a couple of things that happen. (43:20) If I do too much management stuff, the management stuff does worse by, like, 10%. (43:25) And even the stuff that people love, like, bolus four and, like Mhmm.

Scott Benner (43:29) Like, the pro tip stuff, like, that's listened to by a lot of people. (43:33) Like, don't get me wrong, but not as many people would wanna listen to you and I chitchat about your pregnancy and your life with diabetes. (43:39) Mhmm. (43:40) Those episodes do better. (43:42) And people want it every day.

Speaker 3 (43:44) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (43:45) They they're not looking for once a week. (43:47) They're not looking for, you know, every other, you know, Wednesday and Friday, like, kind of thing. (43:52) Like, people who want podcasts, they want them all the time. (43:55) And if they wake up on Monday or what again, what was yesterday? (43:59) Blind electrician.

Scott Benner (44:00) If you wake up tomorrow, you know, and you go blind electrician, I don't care. (44:04) Well, maybe you cared about the one from the day before or the five that were out the week before or the five that are coming in the next five days. (44:11) Like, there's always going to be content for you. (44:14) Like, I think in a world, that is built the way ours is now, if you're putting something out once a week or once a month, you barely have a hobby at that point.

Brooke (44:23) Yeah.

Scott Benner (44:24) You are not creating content. (44:25) That's for certain. (44:26) And for the people who love it, like you, it's exactly what they want.

Brooke (44:31) Yeah. (44:31) I don't know what it is. (44:32) It's like, for me, it's kind of comforting having like chitchat in the background. (44:36) I don't know. (44:36) Especially being mostly a stay at home mom, you're just by yourself all day with a little baby.

Brooke (44:41) So having just people talking in the background and

Scott Benner (44:45) Yeah.

Brooke (44:45) I don't know. (44:46) Hearing hearing similar stories, I I really love it.

Scott Benner (44:48) I I I will tell you that I just I grew up with talk radio and Mhmm. (44:54) I find it incredibly valuable. (44:56) I love having voices like, you know, I love hearing people stories who I've never met before and I'll never meet. (45:03) I like to hear people's perspectives. (45:05) I like that there's somebody leading the conversation who I'm comfortable with, you know, who I find to be reasonable.

Scott Benner (45:13) I don't have to always agree with that person. (45:15) I as a matter of fact, I've you know, I don't. (45:18) But and but still, like, there's a core about them that works for me. (45:23) Does that make sense? (45:24) Yeah.

Brooke (45:24) Yeah. (45:25) No. (45:25) I agree completely.

Scott Benner (45:27) Yeah. (45:27) So, like, I I'm I'm sure I say something. (45:29) I'm sure there are people who absolutely love this podcast. (45:30) So once in while, like, what did that moron just say? (45:33) And, like, because I do the same thing when I'm listening to stuff that I enjoy that has nothing to do with diabetes or me and, you know, like, I'll sit in there and, like, nodding along, like, you know, like, doing the dishes.

Scott Benner (45:44) You're like, yeah. (45:45) I agree with that. (45:45) That makes sense. (45:46) And they say something like, where'd you come up with that, you moron? (45:48) And, like, you know, like, it's it's I don't know.

Scott Benner (45:51) I just think it's a I think it's an awesome way to bring people together.

Brooke (45:54) Definitely. (45:55) I agree.

Scott Benner (45:56) Thank you. (45:56) Well, thank you very much. (45:58) And all of you other podcast listeners out there, I appreciate you. (46:00) And by the way, those of you who are just here for whatever, like, you need out of it, like, I don't begrudge it at all. (46:06) Like, I think I think it's awesome that we built something that also does something else.

Scott Benner (46:10) You know? (46:11) And so For sure. (46:12) Do you do it for that? (46:13) Like, I mean, have you even needed to really dive into pro tips yet, or you do you try bold beginnings? (46:18) Have you tried any of that management stuff?

Brooke (46:20) I've tried a little bit of each. (46:22) Think I can't remember exactly what episodes I listened to, but I definitely listened to some of the bold beginnings, some of the pro tips, and some of your bolus episodes. (46:30) So I've heard bits and pieces.

Scott Benner (46:32) So you're grabbing what you need and feeling like, to get yourself feeling like you're prepared. (46:38) Is that right?

Brooke (46:38) Yeah. (46:39) Like, for instance, I think it was maybe in the bold beginnings, there was like a episode about honeymoon. (46:44) So I've listened to that, and then an episode about insulin, and I listened to that. (46:48) And I kinda just listened to what I need. (46:51) I also kinda cherry pick the talking episodes to ones that I think will be more similar to my experience.

Scott Benner (46:58) Of course.

Brooke (46:58) And I just kinda start with those.

Scott Benner (46:59) That's obvious. (47:00) And you've been at it such a short amount of time. (47:02) Like, you're one of those people that if I don't piss you off, you could be listening to this show for ten years.

Brooke (47:07) Yeah. (47:07) I'm sure I will because there's been podcasts that I've listened to for probably ten years now.

Scott Benner (47:11) So Me too. (47:12) Yeah. (47:12) There's stuff I've I've listened to for so long that I don't even think it's the same thing I started with and I still just I'm just happy to be with the people at that point.

Brooke (47:20) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (47:20) Yeah. (47:20) No. (47:21) That's awesome. (47:22) It's not YouTube. (47:24) Right?

Scott Benner (47:24) Like, people are like, put your podcast on YouTube. (47:26) I'm like, nah. (47:27) It's not the same thing. (47:28) Like, I know you think it is, but it's not. (47:30) Like, that's not the same.

Scott Benner (47:32) Like, YouTube viewers are not podcast listeners.

Brooke (47:35) Yeah. (47:35) And I feel like it's more approachable for a podcast because I can put it I don't have to watch it. (47:40) I can put it on in the car. (47:41) I can put it on when I'm in the shower. (47:43) Like, whatever I'm doing, just have that background noise versus having to watch something.

Scott Benner (47:48) You know, it's funny too. (47:49) Somebody said to me the other day, I did an interview with somebody and they were like, can I get a screen grab of you and I talking? (47:55) And I was like, I don't do video. (47:57) I don't have any of that. (47:58) And they said, oh, I just wanted, you know, a picture of you and me for the like, some social media and I was doing it.

Scott Benner (48:05) I was like, yeah. (48:05) I'm like, I'm not the face of the podcast. (48:07) Like, people don't care what I look like.

Brooke (48:09) Yeah. (48:09) I don't even think I knew what you looked like.

Scott Benner (48:11) Yeah. (48:11) That's not important. (48:13) It it really isn't. (48:14) Mhmm. (48:14) I was listening to the Howard Stern show for six years when I realized that Robin was black.

Scott Benner (48:18) I had no idea. (48:20) Like like and that's not even like, probably, like, you you there might even be a thing you have context for. (48:24) But, like, I I was Yeah. (48:25) I was listening to a group of people talk for, like, six years. (48:27) And one day, I was like, what what did they just say?

Scott Benner (48:29) I was like, oh, I I didn't know that. (48:31) I loved how unimportant it was. (48:34) Yeah. (48:34) She's a voice with thoughts and she's consistent and like her, not like her, be angry with her sometimes, enjoy what she says sometimes. (48:43) She was just a a constant.

Scott Benner (48:45) Like, it's a I don't know. (48:47) I I I just think it's wonderful. (48:48) It's popular. (48:49) Like, that that's the other thing is that the last thing I said to the person was like, they're like, well, there's, you know, there's other podcasts and they do more stuff with doctors. (48:56) And I was like, yeah, boring.

Scott Benner (48:57) Nobody cares.

Brooke (48:58) Yeah. (48:59) There's a lot of podcasts out there. (49:00) There's a lot I mean, you can find whatever you're looking for pretty much. (49:03) So Yeah. (49:04) They're out there if you want them.

Scott Benner (49:05) That's it. (49:06) Here I am. (49:07) Through Reddit because your so your husband listens oh my god. (49:12) You've had such a crazy route to getting to where you are right now. (49:17) Really nice.

Scott Benner (49:19) Like, it's interesting. (49:20) I am worried about the boy though. (49:22) Like, is he do you think he's in denial?

Brooke (49:26) I think he's a little bit in denial, but I more so think he just he I I think it's the optimism. (49:32) Like, I think he thinks we're gonna manage this easy. (49:36) Like, we'll stay low carb. (49:39) You won't have to go on the pump. (49:40) Like, I think he just thinks we're gonna handle it very simplified, and I just I'm like, it's not gonna be that easy.

Brooke (49:47) There's gonna be ups and downs. (49:48) There's gonna be things that change throughout. (49:50) So I think he just is not ready for the ride that we're gonna be on.

Scott Benner (49:55) Unfair question because you haven't been married that long, so you might not have the answer. (49:59) But do you think he believes that, or do you think that he thinks this is him pumping you up or helping you stay positive or whatever?

Brooke (50:08) I think he believes it. (50:10) Oh. (50:10) Because I I'll I'll come back and say, nope. (50:13) There's gonna be a day that I have to take more insulin. (50:16) It's not gonna be so easy.

Brooke (50:17) And, I mean, I think I don't know. (50:20) He'll he'll see. (50:21) He'll figure it out.

Scott Benner (50:22) You're like, I'll show him. (50:23) Don't worry.

Brooke (50:24) Yeah. (50:24) He's gonna have to learn because, I mean, he he'll see my numbers and when it's like, okay. (50:28) I'm spiking. (50:29) All I ate was an egg, then, yeah, I have to take insulin.

Scott Benner (50:33) I just don't want and I'm not saying this is your situation. (50:37) Maybe it is exactly as you're as you're saying. (50:40) But there are people who really believe that stuff, who are running around, like, limiting their insulin and doing like, they're not being safe.

Speaker 3 (50:47) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (50:47) And I don't think you would do that. (50:49) I'm not saying that. (50:50) But I'm trying to figure out, where does that come from? (50:53) Like, from this, like, feel is he very religious?

Brooke (50:56) We recently got, into religion and started going to the church, so I don't really think it's that.

Scott Benner (51:02) Okay.

Brooke (51:02) To be honest, we're both a little skeptical about modern medicine, hence why we wanna do the home birth and everything. (51:09) So I think he just doesn't always believe things off the bat. (51:14) He has to see it for himself and go through it to understand because it there's so much misinformation out there.

Scott Benner (51:22) There is. (51:22) But but there's also a lot of good information. (51:24) So Yeah. (51:25) How how old is he?

Brooke (51:26) 31.

Scott Benner (51:27) Okay. (51:29) And do you guys grow up in a small town? (51:31) Yes. (51:32) Mhmm. (51:33) Okay.

Scott Benner (51:34) Anybody go to college?

Brooke (51:36) I went to college. (51:37) He did not.

Scott Benner (51:38) He did not. (51:38) What what'd you go for?

Brooke (51:40) I was a dance major.

Scott Benner (51:41) Oh, you can go to college for that?

Speaker 3 (51:44) You can. (51:44) And I did.

Scott Benner (51:45) Oh, I would have gone to college if I'd known that.

Brooke (51:47) Yeah. (51:47) It was great. (51:48) I loved it.

Scott Benner (51:49) I'm a terrible dancer. (51:50) But I I mean, this is where I could have thrived.

Brooke (51:53) Yeah. (51:53) Maybe. (51:53) I I think anyone can be a dance major.

Scott Benner (51:55) Really? (51:56) Like, you you don't think that when I dance, look ridiculous and there's no way to fix that?

Brooke (52:01) Well, it's funny. (52:03) I don't know. (52:04) The dance community gets very, very hippie as well sometimes, and it's like, anything can be art, anything can be dance.

Scott Benner (52:11) Alright. (52:12) Well, you're gonna be a dancer. (52:13) If you're gonna be that nice, then I agree. (52:15) But I don't I don't agree on on principle. (52:17) Go back to a second to there's a lot of misinformation.

Scott Benner (52:21) Type one diabetes has been around forever. (52:24) People who believe that you you see the ancient Egyptians talking about it, they call it the great drain. (52:30) They thought you urinated yourself to death. (52:32) Right?

Brooke (52:33) Okay.

Scott Benner (52:34) Insulin was, made in the in the twenties, saved people's lives, does every day. (52:41) Is there something about that that he thinks is wrong?

Brooke (52:46) No. (52:46) I I didn't mean that misinformation is specifically about diabetes, just like out there in the world. (52:51) Like, you go on Facebook and I just saw, like, an I this is crazy. (52:56) I just saw an AI video of RFK saying that there is some cactus blend that could cure diabetes. (53:05) And I thought it was weird, I googled it and it was yes.

Brooke (53:09) This was an AI video. (53:10) So there's so much crazy stuff out there that it's hard to believe things when you see them first.

Scott Benner (53:16) So people are just trying to get clicks.

Brooke (53:18) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (53:19) Right. (53:19) Right. (53:20) And so I think that's why it's important to find a community of people that you can believe in at some point and just kinda go off of that. (53:28) Yeah. (53:29) And you've done that already, so you you'll be okay.

Scott Benner (53:31) But he's not he hasn't done that yet.

Brooke (53:34) No. (53:34) Other than his Reddit searches, which you can find anything that you are looking for on Reddit. (53:40) So I do think that at some point, will suggest him starting to listen to your podcast or things like that just so he can see because he's never been around anyone who's had diabetes other than me. (53:51) So he has a lot of learning to do.

Scott Benner (53:52) Give him the bull beginning series. (53:54) Like, let him listen to that. (53:55) Yeah. (53:55) You know? (53:56) Because, like, look, I don't not get the duality of a person who makes content saying, like, oh, there's content out there and it's bull There's people listening right now who like, Scott, I've heard you'd be wrong about stuff.

Scott Benner (54:05) Is your content bull Like, you know what I mean? (54:06) Like that

Speaker 3 (54:07) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (54:07) I I get that vibe. (54:09) But, like, there's just some basic truths about type one diabetes. (54:12) Right? (54:12) You have type one diabetes. (54:14) You need man made insulin.

Brooke (54:15) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (54:15) You will die without it. (54:17) Maybe you'll need less while you're in a honeymoon phase. (54:20) And I'll tell you, there's an episode of a guy who, was type one for many years, using a lot of insulin, but then they put him on a weight loss medication, Mounjaro, or Zepbound. (54:31) I forget. (54:31) It's the same thing.

Scott Benner (54:32) And he actually came off his insulin. (54:35) And as of the time I interviewed him, he wasn't back on it yet, but he also fully expected that he would be at some point.

Brooke (54:42) Yeah.

Scott Benner (54:42) And right. (54:43) And, like so, like like, if I said to you right now, like, you could maybe stretch out your honeymoon with some GLP, I don't think that's maybe a crazy thing to say because you can you could maybe lighten the load and and and take a little bit of the burden off your beta cells right now and maybe make this time go a little longer for you.

Speaker 3 (55:00) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (55:01) And maybe not. (55:02) Like, I have no idea. (55:03) You might shoot that GLP and nothing happens to your insulin needs. (55:06) Yeah. (55:06) I have absolutely no idea, but GLPs don't cure type one diabetes.

Scott Benner (55:10) Yeah. (55:10) Yeah. (55:10) It doesn't make it go away or anything like that. (55:12) You still have it. (55:13) You still need insulin unless your body's making enough in a honeymoon situation that the GLP lifts the need and and allows for what's going on in your beta cells to be enough for you Mhmm.

Scott Benner (55:25) Which is what I think is happening to that guy. (55:27) And and I've had other people on who have, like, told that story too. (55:30) But having said that, not many people, a couple. (55:33) You you know, most people who take a GLP who have type one just experience less of insulin need. (55:40) But Yeah.

Scott Benner (55:40) May maybe by twenty percent or, you know, I've heard some people say by thirty percent. (55:44) I mean, that might be valuable for you to look into.

Brooke (55:46) I think maybe where some of his skepticism comes to is doctor Perdstein, from what we were hearing, people were taking very, very minimal insulin by, I guess, the low carb diet. (55:59) So I guess maybe his thinking is we're gonna find a way that you don't have to take a lot of insulin for the rest of your life.

Scott Benner (56:06) Well, that's very reasonable. (56:08) Like, it it certainly is if you don't tax your, you know a lot of people have success with that. (56:14) Now, by the way, a lot of people, I don't know what that means. (56:16) Mhmm. (56:16) Be it, you know, like, the percentage of people who are doing that, I I don't know what that number is.

Scott Benner (56:20) But also, is that a thing you want to do?

Brooke (56:23) I'd consider it, but I don't know if it would last the rest of my life. (56:27) Are you are you talking about the low carb or

Scott Benner (56:28) I'm I'm talking about what happens seven, eight months from now when that baby turns one and there's a cake. (56:34) Are you gonna want some of it?

Brooke (56:36) I don't know. (56:37) I I think we'll see. (56:38) I mean, I've been in a lot of situations lately where, I mean, the holidays are coming up and there's foods that would definitely spike my blood sugar if I ate them. (56:47) And I'm okay with passing it up, but I can't say that I'm gonna be able to do that forever. (56:52) I mean, I ate pretty healthy my whole life, so I think I can definitely eat pretty low carb, but I can't say there's not gonna be a day where I want a bowl of french fries or something.

Scott Benner (57:01) So It's a journey. (57:02) You'll figure it out along the way.

Speaker 3 (57:03) Yeah.

Scott Benner (57:03) But it but it is tough. (57:04) I mean, my point is is that it's tough to have an outside person tell you three months into something, hey. (57:10) You know what the the idea here is? (57:11) It's like, just eat a steak and don't touch any carbs ever again, and you won't have to do it's like, alright, man. (57:16) Well, maybe I'll just use some insulin and, like, you know, have a brownie.

Brooke (57:20) Yeah. (57:20) Exactly.

Scott Benner (57:21) I don't know what will be right for you. (57:23) You you know?

Brooke (57:24) Yeah. (57:24) I think there's a balance. (57:25) I think, you know, I'm I'll figure it out.

Scott Benner (57:28) Well, that's definitely true. (57:29) I mean, listen, the lower carb you eat, the better off, you know, you're gonna be as far as the amount of insulin you Yeah. (57:36) This podcast probably started with me saying, like, I figured out, like, that these things help my daughter's a one c says lower. (57:43) Right?

Speaker 3 (57:44) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (57:44) And as I started making the podcast, it occurred to me that I'm not in charge of how people eat.

Speaker 3 (57:51) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (57:52) There's an industry around telling people how to eat. (57:54) Right? (57:54) Like, there's somebody out there telling you to eat keto. (57:57) There's somebody out there telling you to high fat. (57:59) There's somebody telling you to eat vegetarian, vegan, blah blah blah.

Scott Benner (58:02) Like, there's people love to tell each other how to eat, and people love to get into teams and say, this is the best way to do

Speaker 3 (58:07) it. (58:08) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (58:09) I don't think that that is an open tent mentality.

Brooke (58:13) Yeah.

Scott Benner (58:14) I think that it allows you to get other people who are, you know, very hyper focused on this one thing and and get them all together and they can all tell each other, look how great this is. (58:23) But how does that help you, a new person who's diagnosed? (58:26) Right? (58:26) Or a person who's struggling or something like that who can't make a big leap and a big change. (58:30) And so my idea always was, this is how the insulin works.

Scott Benner (58:35) If you apply it this way, you should be able to keep your a one c here, your stability here, your variability here, and then go apply that to how you eat. (58:44) Now, the rest of it is, I do hope at some point people looking and realize that there are some foods that are just harder

Brooke (58:53) Yeah.

Scott Benner (58:53) And take more insulin and create more volatility and probably aren't very healthy. (58:58) And do I hope they stop eating them? (59:01) I mean, I don't care. (59:03) Like, it's not my life. (59:05) You you know what I mean?

Scott Benner (59:06) Like, I hope they're happy and I hope they're as healthy as they can be. (59:09) And if that means not eating something, because it's garbage or because it's, you know, mass produced or something like that, you know, yeah, I guess I hope they come to that conclusion. (59:20) But I also had a Swedish fish the other day and it was awesome. (59:22) I just wanna say. (59:24) Like, I had four of them.

Scott Benner (59:25) I remember them each and individually because I stretched them out before I ate them, and then I ate them in little bite. (59:33) I don't know if you know a Swedish fish, but they're

Brooke (59:35) Oh, yeah.

Scott Benner (59:36) I'm not here telling you not to eat candy or not to do anything. (59:39) Like, I just feel like it's ridiculous for me to

Brooke (59:42) come on. (59:42) Baby's coming up, by the way.

Scott Benner (59:43) Oh, we're gonna get the baby? (59:45) Yes. (59:46) Oh, so your mom's gotta go? (59:47) Well, she got a job?

Speaker 3 (59:48) Yeah. (59:49) Hi. (59:50) Here's the baby. (59:51) Okay. (59:52) Alright.

Brooke (59:54) Better and change Oh, wow. (59:56) Thank you.

Speaker 3 (59:57) So helpful. (59:58) Thank you. (1:00:00) That's okay. (1:00:03) Okay. (1:00:04) Thank you.

Speaker 3 (1:00:05) That's okay.

Scott Benner (1:00:06) Hi, baby. (1:00:08) Hi.

Brooke (1:00:10) That's fine.

Scott Benner (1:00:11) Put the baby near the ear pods so I can tell him, like, maybe don't list the daddy on everything. (1:00:15) I'm not sure yet. (1:00:16) Oh. (1:00:16) Okay.

Brooke (1:00:18) She's surprisingly quiet right now, but she might freak out. (1:00:21) So we'll see.

Scott Benner (1:00:22) Are you comfortable sharing her name or no?

Brooke (1:00:24) Yes. (1:00:25) Her name's Valerie.

Scott Benner (1:00:26) Valerie. (1:00:26) Oh, beautiful. (1:00:27) Oh, it's wonderful. (1:00:28) So nice. (1:00:29) Yep.

Scott Benner (1:00:30) Is your mom handling the fact that you have diabetes?

Brooke (1:00:32) I think she's she's accepting of it, but she's type two or sorry. (1:00:37) Prediabetic for type two, I guess, herself, so she kind of understands. (1:00:42) I'm more so the one pushing her to, like, be like, you gotta get this together because she's kind of been on and off prediabetic for a couple years now. (1:00:51) And now I'm like, look. (1:00:52) This has happened to me.

Brooke (1:00:53) Like, you could have to take insulin in the future. (1:00:56) Like, I really hope that you can, you know, manage your diet a little bit better so that you don't have to be in my situation. (1:01:02) Because I guess being type two, my understanding is you do have more control over it.

Scott Benner (1:01:07) Does your mom have any weight to lose?

Brooke (1:01:09) No. (1:01:10) That's the crazy thing. (1:01:10) She's very tiny. (1:01:12) So

Scott Benner (1:01:12) Okay. (1:01:13) But, yeah, teeny tiny little bit of that GLP might change her life.

Brooke (1:01:16) Yeah. (1:01:17) It could definitely be something I could suggest to her. (1:01:19) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:01:20) I'd love to see more people pay attention. (1:01:22) I think the upsides can be really kind of phenomenal for people. (1:01:27) What is she doing? (1:01:28) Anything? (1:01:28) Is she on metformin?

Scott Benner (1:01:29) Is she

Brooke (1:01:31) No. (1:01:31) She just goes to see her doctor every couple of months and they keep checking her a one c and they're like, as long as it doesn't get any higher

Scott Benner (1:01:38) What is it?

Brooke (1:01:38) For now, we just want you to manage your diet.

Scott Benner (1:01:40) Do you know what it is?

Brooke (1:01:41) I think the highest it was was maybe, like, 5 80 around there. (1:01:48) So, like, nothing crazy.

Scott Benner (1:01:50) Mhmm. (1:01:50) Mhmm. (1:01:51) I don't know. (1:01:52) I I don't know. (1:01:53) Hopefully, she can manage it with diet.

Scott Benner (1:01:55) That'd be awesome. (1:01:56) You know?

Brooke (1:01:56) Yeah. (1:01:56) I've I've tried. (1:01:57) I think she just isn't very knowledgeable in nutrition and, like, I'll say, okay, like, can you do eat healthier? (1:02:04) And she's like, okay. (1:02:05) Well, all I have was cereal for dinner.

Brooke (1:02:07) I'm like, okay, mom. (1:02:08) That's exactly what you shouldn't do.

Scott Benner (1:02:10) When my mom became, like, prediabetic for for a hot minute, I was like, alright, mom. (1:02:15) Like, let's get you together some lower carb options. (1:02:17) Like, go ahead and, you know, show me some stuff. (1:02:19) And everything she pulled together had carbs in. (1:02:21) I was like, mom, there's carbs in all of this.

Scott Benner (1:02:23) Mhmm.

Brooke (1:02:23) I was

Scott Benner (1:02:23) like, let's add it up here. (1:02:24) Blah blah blah. (1:02:25) You know, it's this many. (1:02:25) She goes, oh, I didn't know that. (1:02:26) She's because she thinks of things as healthy.

Brooke (1:02:29) Yes.

Scott Benner (1:02:30) Yeah. (1:02:30) And I realized because she's older too, she had thought of things as stuff that she couldn't afford as being good. (1:02:38) Does that make sense? (1:02:38) Like, when she was younger, she couldn't afford it, that made it, like, something to reach for. (1:02:44) And because it was something to reach for, then it was a good thing.

Brooke (1:02:46) And Interesting.

Speaker 3 (1:02:47) Yeah. (1:02:48) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:02:48) Like, there was, a whole, like, weird psychology around it, and she didn't understand the carbs and anything.

Brooke (1:02:53) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:02:53) Yeah. (1:02:53) Your mom eats, like, literally cereal? (1:02:55) Like, what like, tell me the brand.

Brooke (1:02:58) I don't know what cereal, but I'll just ask her, what did you have for dinner last night? (1:03:02) And and she'll say, like, toast. (1:03:04) And then she'll always say, like, oh, I I'm not eating out, like, fast food as much, and she'll get Chick fil A the next day. (1:03:13) Or we'll be at a gathering, and I'll she always has a cupcake or a cookie in her hand. (1:03:17) Like, she just loves her sweets.

Brooke (1:03:19) So I'm always like, mom, this is the thing. (1:03:21) And I don't wanna be that person to, like, make her feel uncomfortable about what she's eating, but I do understand nutrition a little bit more, and I don't wanna see her get in the same position that I am in. (1:03:33) So

Scott Benner (1:03:34) How old is she?

Brooke (1:03:36) She's 55.

Scott Benner (1:03:37) Your mom's only 55?

Brooke (1:03:39) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:03:39) Oh. (1:03:42) Oh, that's so interesting. (1:03:43) Your mom's 55 and she don't know that that Chick fil A is bad?

Brooke (1:03:48) She knows it's bad, but I don't think she realizes the extent. (1:03:52) Like, she'll say, oh, I don't have it that much, but then she'll get it that week. (1:03:56) And I'm like, okay. (1:03:57) But if you're getting it every week, like, you know, maybe try once a month.

Scott Benner (1:04:01) And cereals, that's an interesting one. (1:04:03) Cereals, like, you're you're like, you have prediabetes. (1:04:06) Eat better. (1:04:07) And she's like, I did. (1:04:08) I ate cereal.

Scott Benner (1:04:09) Yes. (1:04:10) Like, the worst thing in the world.

Brooke (1:04:12) And I think she she doesn't like to cook, and so she's like, whatever's the easiest thing to eat. (1:04:19) Like, I remember when I was in high school, my parents got divorced and we would be with her that week and we would literally have toast for dinner out of laziness. (1:04:30) So

Scott Benner (1:04:31) Is your mom doing crack or anything like that? (1:04:33) Is there something weird going on? (1:04:34) No? (1:04:35) She's not a meth head? (1:04:36) No.

Scott Benner (1:04:37) No? (1:04:37) Are you sure? (1:04:37) You're in Western Pennsylvania, aren't you?

Brooke (1:04:39) That's true.

Scott Benner (1:04:40) That's true. (1:04:40) I just gotta check. (1:04:42) Wow. (1:04:43) Toast for dinner. (1:04:43) I have to tell you what, as you do get older, there are days where you're just like, I had soup the other night.

Scott Benner (1:04:49) My kids are like, what are you gonna have for dinner? (1:04:50) I'm like, I already had soup. (1:04:52) They were like, what? (1:04:54) I'm like, soup. (1:04:55) I had some chicken soup.

Scott Benner (1:04:56) I'm good.

Brooke (1:04:57) Yeah. (1:04:57) And I mean, parenting, I'm learning, like, you don't always might have to hold a baby and figure out how I'm gonna cook chicken and broccoli for dinner, that's just not gonna happen tonight. (1:05:07) So I get it.

Scott Benner (1:05:08) I see what you're saying. (1:05:09) Okay. (1:05:09) Well, I I mean, I hope she figures it out. (1:05:11) There's a type two series in the podcast if you wanna give it to her.

Brooke (1:05:14) Okay. (1:05:15) Yeah. (1:05:15) Definitely. (1:05:16) I I'm always sending her podcasts to listen to, so Oh. (1:05:19) I will do that.

Scott Benner (1:05:19) Do you think she does she listen?

Brooke (1:05:21) I don't know. (1:05:23) And if she does, I don't know if she, like, really listens.

Scott Benner (1:05:27) Interesting. (1:05:28) I hear what you're saying.

Brooke (1:05:30) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:05:32) Okay. (1:05:32) Alright. (1:05:33) Alright. (1:05:33) Alright. (1:05:33) Awesome.

Scott Benner (1:05:34) Alright. (1:05:34) I like you being here. (1:05:35) I really I appreciate you. (1:05:37) I appreciate all all all the things you shared today. (1:05:39) It's a really interesting look into a person who is very recently diagnosed.

Brooke (1:05:44) Yeah. (1:05:45) I'm glad I could share.

Scott Benner (1:05:46) Yeah. (1:05:46) No. (1:05:46) And under really, kind of extraordinary circumstances, honestly.

Brooke (1:05:50) Yes.

Scott Benner (1:05:51) For sure. (1:05:51) You I mean, you have a different I I used to say to my wife, I'm like, I don't think we're gonna hear too many different diagnosis stories anymore, but you here you are with one. (1:06:00) You know?

Brooke (1:06:01) Yeah. (1:06:01) And, I mean, that's like every doctor I had, they were just as shocked as I was. (1:06:06) So I figured it was not super common.

Scott Benner (1:06:09) Keep filling yourself oh, the baby did a thing and now I'm all melted inside. (1:06:14) Oh, that's lovely. (1:06:15) Gonna have did you say it's yawning? (1:06:18) That was awesome. (1:06:20) You're gonna have such a lovely time raising her.

Brooke (1:06:23) Yes. (1:06:24) I already love it so much.

Scott Benner (1:06:25) Congratulations. (1:06:26) Really, really lovely. (1:06:27) And keep filling yourself with knowledge. (1:06:29) Get it all different places and then make a good decision for yourself. (1:06:32) Okay?

Brooke (1:06:33) I will for sure.

Scott Benner (1:06:34) Awesome. (1:06:34) Hold on one second for me.

Speaker 3 (1:06:36) Okay.

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