#1711 Out of Shell - Part 2
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Janelle discusses marrying young, military life, and her son’s Type 1 diagnosis. She shares how she manages anxiety, homeschooling, and why she switched from Omnipod to Tandem Mobi.
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Scott Benner (0:00) Hello, friends. (0:01) Welcome to the Juice Box podcast. (0:03) Happy holidays to everyone juggling carbs, cookies, and the chaos of this season.
Janelle (0:18) Hi. (0:19) I'm Janelle. (0:20) That's it. (0:20) I I don't got a lot about me. (0:23) Really, I really don't.
Janelle (0:24) That's the funny that's the funny thing. (0:25) This is out of my comfort zone.
Scott Benner (0:28) This is part two of a two part episode. (0:30) Go look at the title. (0:32) If you don't recognize it, you haven't heard part one yet. (0:34) It's probably the episode right before this in your podcast player. (0:39) If you're living with type one diabetes, the After Dark collection from the Juice Box podcast is the only place to hear the stories that no one else talks about.
Scott Benner (0:49) From drugs to depression, self harm, trauma, addiction, and so much more. (0:56) Go to juiceboxpodcast.com up in the menu and click on after dark. (1:01) There, you'll see a full list of all of the after dark episodes. (1:06) If you're looking for community around type one diabetes, check out the Juice Box Podcast private Facebook group. (1:12) Juice Box Podcast, type one diabetes.
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Scott Benner (2:22) Eligibility may vary. (2:23) Full terms and conditions can be found at omnipod.com/juicebox. (2:28) Links in the show notes. (2:30) Links at juiceboxpodcast.com. (2:32) So how is this gonna help you break out of your norms?
Scott Benner (2:36) Like, what is it you're hoping to like, on this little journey of yours, where are you trying to get to?
Janelle (2:40) I don't think I've really figured that out yet. (2:42) I think I think, like, after his diagnosis, I've kind of just, like, put myself in this, like, tiny little box, and I haven't ever forced myself to really come out of the box. (2:54) And I'm sick of living in the box. (2:56) So we're just gonna, like, try a bunch of things and see what kind of helps me get there.
Scott Benner (3:02) And the box is you being a tool of his health, and you feel like you're not much more than that?
Janelle (3:07) Yeah. (3:07) I'm quite literally like, most days, I'm like, I'm quite literally on this Earth to be a pancreas.
Scott Benner (3:13) Okay. (3:14) And is that impacting your other child? (3:16) You you is that impacting Amber at all?
Janelle (3:18) I mean, I think to some degree just because not, like, obviously, on purpose or anything, but Paxton does require so much extra attention. (3:27) Mhmm. (3:27) And so I try to make a conscious effort when I can of, you know, pulling her aside and, like, spending extra time with her, but then that's kind of also where my husband has stepped in and, you know, is taking her out, you know, for, like, daddy daughter dates and stuff like that so that way she doesn't feel like she gets any less love.
Scott Benner (3:41) Want me to break your heart?
Janelle (3:43) Sure. (3:43) Go for it.
Scott Benner (3:43) I genuinely believe that my wife and I did a great job of not letting either of our children feel ignored. (3:50) Yeah. (3:50) They both felt ignored. (3:52) Yeah. (3:52) Yeah.
Scott Benner (3:52) I don't know how to, like
Janelle (3:53) I think I can agree to that somehow too because Paxton gets all this attention all day every day, and he's still like, you guys never spend enough time with me.
Scott Benner (4:01) Cole told us recently, like, I just remember it always been about Arden and Arden was like, you guys were always a baseball with Cole. (4:07) And I was like Mhmm. (4:08) Wait. (4:08) What?
Janelle (4:08) No matter what you do, it's never enough.
Scott Benner (4:10) I was like, you sons of bitches. (4:11) Like, the two
Janelle (4:12) of you. (4:12) Be grateful.
Scott Benner (4:13) Yeah. (4:13) This Well, is why people just sit around and drink. (4:15) Because, like, they're probably like, yeah. (4:17) It don't matter what you do. (4:17) The kid's gonna hate you at the end anyway.
Scott Benner (4:19) And I was like, they don't hate us, but, like, the way they remembered is really
Janelle (4:22) Yeah.
Scott Benner (4:22) Yeah. (4:23) I think it's one of the unspoken truths of being a parent that it really is true. (4:29) Like, no matter what you do, someone is gonna say, well, what about this? (4:33) Yeah. (4:34) Actually, you see it in social media too.
Scott Benner (4:36) Right? (4:37) Yeah. (4:37) Like, the goalpost moving. (4:38) Like, somebody says, like, this is bad, and you and then the person just, instead of addressing that, just moves the goalpost and says, well, what about this? (4:45) Yeah.
Scott Benner (4:45) You know? (4:45) And I don't think the kids are doing that on purpose that way, but maybe it's just a a human reaction to things.
Janelle (4:51) Yeah.
Scott Benner (4:51) You know what saying? (4:52) Yeah. (4:52) It's very interesting. (4:54) Okay. (4:55) So you're gonna break free of this, but we have to figure out how to do that for you.
Scott Benner (4:59) Yeah. (4:59) So what's taking up all your time that we could help to minimize? (5:03) I mean, I if I was you, I'd ship the kid off to school. (5:05) I think that would definitely free up some of your time. (5:07) I'd be like, why don't you go learn about Thanksgiving somewhere else?
Janelle (5:10) No. (5:11) My gosh. (5:11) I mean, my husband would agree with you there. (5:13) Yeah. (5:14) I don't know.
Janelle (5:15) I don't think that's a I don't think that's something I'm willing to give up yet. (5:18) I think I'm willing to give up more of the other stuff first, but I don't really know. (5:24) I think, genuinely, I just spend so much time pouring myself into type one that it's like, I let everything else fall to the wayside. (5:35) Like, even just, like, dumb stuff around the house. (5:37) Like, oh, I leave the dishes sitting in the sink for too long or, like, because I can't fathom doing the dishes when I'm just so exhausted from analyzing all of this data all day.
Scott Benner (5:46) What would happen if you didn't do it, though? (5:48) Like, is this the anxiety? (5:50) Like, are you doing stuff you don't really know to do? (5:52) Have you ever heard me say that worry is a waste of imagination? (5:56) Yes.
Scott Benner (5:56) Okay. (5:57) Do you think that's happening a little bit?
Janelle (5:59) Yeah. (5:59) I think so.
Scott Benner (6:00) Alright. (6:00) Do you need to be medicated? (6:03) Have you tried
Janelle (6:04) hope not.
Scott Benner (6:05) Tried weed? (6:06) Like, is there I
Janelle (6:07) mean I mean, maybe. (6:08) But
Scott Benner (6:08) I mean, maybe. (6:09) Okay. (6:09) So you've tried weed. (6:10) Does that help?
Janelle (6:11) Yes. (6:12) I have not.
Scott Benner (6:13) It doesn't help? (6:14) Okay. (6:15) No. (6:15) Oh, alright. (6:16) So nothing can get through your your superhero outfit of of anxiety and worry?
Janelle (6:21) I guess not. (6:22) No. (6:22) It's, pretty invincible.
Scott Benner (6:25) Maybe you need more kids.
Janelle (6:27) I I fear that that is not the answer.
Scott Benner (6:31) Is this impacting your personal life with the boy?
Janelle (6:35) I think it has. (6:36) I think it has. (6:37) Yeah.
Scott Benner (6:37) You think he feels alone and ignored?
Janelle (6:40) Yeah. (6:41) To some degree.
Scott Benner (6:41) Is he?
Janelle (6:43) I mean, maybe more so than he should be.
Scott Benner (6:46) Mhmm. (6:47) But you don't care because the other thing is and care is not the right word, but it is at the same time. (6:52) You don't care because the other thing seems more dire? (6:56) Yeah. (6:57) What if I told you the other thing will become dire eventually?
Janelle (7:01) I mean, I'd tell you that you're completely right.
Scott Benner (7:03) No. (7:03) I know. (7:04) It's obvious. (7:04) But, like, I'm just saying, like, you you're too smart not to know this. (7:08) But I'm trying to, like, figure out, like, what here.
Scott Benner (7:11) Here's an example. (7:13) My wife, I hope she's listening. (7:15) Hi, sweetheart. (7:17) Has long COVID.
Janelle (7:19) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (7:19) She can see it coming on when she gets, a flare up. (7:22) Yeah. (7:23) But instead of slowing down and stopping for a day or two, she ramps herself up acting as if she's going to drive through it unscathed, which instead turns into her two weeks later being so exhausted that she has to take off two days from work and sleep for forty eight hours. (7:37) Yeah. (7:38) And I say to her, what if the next time you feel it coming, you just scale back then so that it never really gets up to full speed and you never get to the point where you actually have to stop and you've made a new problem?
Scott Benner (7:49) And then she stares through me as if I'm a fucking idiot. (7:53) And then I think the staring means, yeah. (7:56) Yeah. (7:56) Scott, that's making sense, but I don't know how to do that. (7:59) Yeah.
Scott Benner (8:00) Are you Catholic? (8:02) No. (8:03) Really? (8:04) No. (8:04) None of this makes any sense, Jenelle.
Scott Benner (8:07) Why are you so nervous? (8:08) Wait. (8:10) Is there other anxiety in your family besides your mom, like, family line?
Janelle (8:15) I don't think so.
Scott Benner (8:16) No? (8:17) No. (8:17) Crow anybody got Crohn's?
Janelle (8:20) My mother-in-law.
Scott Benner (8:21) People pooping a lot after food. (8:24) How's Thanksgiving? (8:25) Is it just the line of the bathroom afterwards?
Janelle (8:27) No. (8:27) It's not.
Scott Benner (8:28) Not that bad? (8:29) Okay. (8:30) Any mental illness? (8:31) Any depression in the family?
Janelle (8:34) My dad had depression.
Scott Benner (8:35) Ah. (8:36) Your mom's anxious, your dad's depressed, and you're worried all the time.
Janelle (8:41) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (8:42) You worry about stuff that's ridiculous to worry about?
Janelle (8:46) Sometimes. (8:47) Yeah. (8:47) And then I catch myself. (8:48) The stuff that's, like, completely ridiculous, it's easier to, like, you know what I mean, rein it back in. (8:53) But the day to day stuff is a lot harder to kind of, like, push past.
Scott Benner (8:56) So you can't write off the kid thing because the kid because you used some pretty harsh language earlier about, like, I'm keeping him alive. (9:03) Yeah. (9:03) You kind I I know you are, but it also you run afoul of the you ever see somebody online and by the way, if one of you saw the you did this, I'm I'm not talking about you. (9:13) I'm talking about the other one, so don't get mad at me. (9:15) Okay?
Scott Benner (9:15) Did you ever see somebody who, like, a cookie saved my kid's life today? (9:19) Like, the real, like, dramatic, like you ever seen that?
Janelle (9:22) Yeah.
Scott Benner (9:22) Yeah. (9:22) Maybe don't lean that hard into the drama. (9:25) You know what I mean? (9:26) Like so I I I get the point you're trying to make, but Yeah. (9:30) Yeah.
Scott Benner (9:31) So is that happening? (9:32) Are you leaning into the drama when it's about him?
Janelle (9:37) I try not to. (9:38) I think some days, it's harder to kind of, like, detach from the drama, especially, like, after, like, a a super rough, like, blood sugar day. (9:45) Mhmm. (9:46) Where you're kind of just, like, mentally drained from having to, like, give it attention twenty four seven instead of being able to kind of detach. (9:52) But, yeah, I mean, I I try really hard not to lean into the drama.
Janelle (9:56) I try to keep the aspect of, like, you know, type one doesn't change his childhood that much, and I'm trying to keep everything as normal as possible. (10:04) But, you know, it's it's hard to keep that mindset twenty four seven.
Scott Benner (10:06) What's the thing you're really worried about? (10:08) Like, what's your biggest worry for him?
Janelle (10:10) I think my biggest worry is any and neglect is a harsh term, but, like, any neglect that I would put on him while he's young and not the one in charge of his diabetes management. (10:23) Like, if it caused him future complications, like, I wouldn't be able to forgive myself for that.
Scott Benner (10:28) Oh, okay. (10:29) You're worried he's gonna have a a medical condition in the future or an outcome in the future that you're gonna then look at and think, oh, that was my job. (10:38) I should have stopped that from happening.
Janelle (10:40) Yeah.
Scott Benner (10:41) Oh, that's not gonna happen.
Janelle (10:43) Yeah. (10:44) I know. (10:44) Realistically.
Scott Benner (10:45) Yeah. (10:46) I mean, if he has something like that, it's gonna be after he's an adult making his own decisions. (10:50) Oh.
Janelle (10:51) Yeah.
Scott Benner (10:51) Do you want me to make sense to you?
Janelle (10:52) Yeah.
Scott Benner (10:55) Okay. (10:56) So you're thoughtful. (10:58) You understand this. (10:59) You're paying attention to it. (11:00) You're putting in good effort.
Scott Benner (11:01) So while you're in control of his diabetes, everything should be fine. (11:05) Yeah. (11:05) Right? (11:06) The only thing that you can't really help is what he does after he's off and away from you. (11:12) Yeah.
Scott Benner (11:13) The way he separates from you as an adult one day is going to have a lot to do with the relationship that you have now with him moving forward. (11:23) Yeah. (11:24) So if you're overbearing and or like, you know, at some point, he's gonna just think you're being ridiculous. (11:29) Right? (11:30) Like, if you're doing something that's perfectly reasonable, I, all the time, Arnd's like, ugh.
Scott Benner (11:33) I don't know what you think you're doing. (11:35) And I'm like, oh, okay. (11:36) So you're gonna get to that at some point. (11:37) Right? (11:38) Yeah.
Scott Benner (11:39) If you have a bad relationship because of how you're over focusing on the diabetes, that probably leads him more towards not taking care of himself than anything else.
Janelle (11:51) Agreed. (11:52) Yeah.
Scott Benner (11:53) So it's really all about, oh, you really know all this already. (11:56) You didn't go to therapy? (11:57) You just figured this out?
Janelle (11:58) No. (11:59) I'm in therapy.
Scott Benner (11:59) Oh. (12:00) Oh, okay. (12:00) A therapist explained it to you. (12:02) Oh, is that what happened? (12:04) A therapist explained this to you?
Janelle (12:06) Kind of. (12:06) Yeah. (12:06) I think I think a decent amount was self realization, but the therapy definitely helped.
Scott Benner (12:11) What's the copay on the therapist?
Janelle (12:12) Oh, god. (12:13) I don't even know. (12:13) We just got new insurance, so I gotta figure all that out.
Scott Benner (12:16) It could be more than 40, you're saying?
Janelle (12:18) Oh, a 100%.
Scott Benner (12:19) I'm not even pretend to ask me for enough?
Janelle (12:21) You're not charging enough.
Scott Benner (12:23) You know what? (12:24) I had a meeting the other day with one of the advertisers, and I thought the same thing. (12:27) I was like, I don't think I'm charging enough money.
Janelle (12:29) I'm undervaluing myself.
Scott Benner (12:31) I sat there, and I thought, I think I'm getting screwed. (12:34) And, like, and not like Brenda did in squishy pushy. (12:39) So there's there's a little highlight for you. (12:41) Don't forget Brenda 71. (12:42) Go listen to that episode right now.
Scott Benner (12:44) Now I you know, I should do more shout outs for other episodes within episodes.
Janelle (12:48) You definitely should.
Scott Benner (12:49) Yeah. (12:49) I'm gonna start doing ads for myself. (12:51) Okay. (12:52) So you know all this. (12:54) You're trying to get it stopped.
Scott Benner (12:56) Now step away from all this. (12:57) Stop being yourself for a second. (12:59) Be me. (12:59) Mhmm. (13:00) What should you be doing?
Scott Benner (13:02) Like, what puts an end to this? (13:04) Because listen. (13:05) I've had a ton of conversations with a lot of ladies who have made babies. (13:08) This mother guilt thing, this mom's guilt thing is ridiculous. (13:12) Okay?
Scott Benner (13:12) Like, it's horrible. (13:13) I don't know. (13:14) I mean, obviously, it's been keeping people alive for generations. (13:17) It's probably it's pretty, you know, pretty valuable, but that's back when nature didn't expect you to live past 30.
Janelle (13:22) Yeah.
Scott Benner (13:22) What is it that you can do to make a good relationship with this little boy and and your and your daughter and your husband in a way that everybody's gonna be happy when he's 18 and goes off and marries some girl? (13:35) I mean, you know, or hopefully, you know, does whatever he's gonna do. (13:38) What's gonna make him
Janelle (13:39) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (13:40) Head off into his adult life and not struggle with this thing that's diabetes? (13:45) And why do you think it's for you to do? (13:48) Why don't you see it as a bigger, like, steering of the Titanic and less about, like I think you should be looking at this more macro. (13:56) You gotta stop putting it on yourself and start thinking bigger picture, I think. (14:00) But what would do that for you?
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Janelle (16:07) Yeah. (16:07) I agree. (16:08) I think, honestly, as dumb as it sounds seeing him have a better relationship with his diabetes than I do. (16:14) Because if he looked at diabetes the way I do, that would break my heart. (16:20) And it's hypocritical because I'm the one modeling how to, you know, act towards diabetes management right now.
Janelle (16:28) And, you know, I don't want him to constantly be stressed out about his numbers. (16:32) I want him to know how to manage himself. (16:34) You know what I mean? (16:35) In a, you know, in a good way, but I don't want him to live day to day thinking that he's only here to be a pancreas.
Scott Benner (16:43) What should I say to you? (16:47) Because I could say the thing that your husband won't say. (16:51) You want me to do that?
Janelle (16:52) I mean, sure. (16:53) Go for it.
Scott Benner (16:53) You gotta calm the fuck down.
Janelle (16:55) Yeah. (16:55) Yeah. (16:55) Oh, he has said that.
Scott Benner (16:56) Oh, he said it? (16:57) Well, he's dead.
Janelle (16:57) He said that.
Scott Benner (16:58) Let me tell you something. (16:59) Got you.
Janelle (16:59) It doesn't I don't receive it well.
Scott Benner (17:01) Well, no. (17:02) Of course not. (17:02) What a major mistake. (17:03) Listen. (17:03) If you're listening, man, you can't say that.
Scott Benner (17:05) That's ridiculous.
Janelle (17:05) I know.
Scott Benner (17:06) You gotta get someone else to say it. (17:07) Here's a here's a good trick. (17:09) Get her crazy friend to say it. (17:11) Because when she realizes the crazy friend thinks she needs to calm down, she'll be like, oh, god. (17:15) If Pat thinks that I'm crazy, what the hell is happening?
Scott Benner (17:18) I'm partially joking, but I'm partially not. (17:21) Yeah. (17:22) I know it's very much easier said than done. (17:24) Yeah. (17:25) You've said all the right stuff.
Scott Benner (17:26) You're modeling the wrong thing to him. (17:27) He's gonna pick it up. (17:28) That's what he's gonna think his diabetes is. (17:30) It's gonna seem like a thing that's always trying to kill him that he should be scared of. (17:34) You don't want him to feel like that at all.
Scott Benner (17:35) Right? (17:36) So what do they tell you in AA?
Janelle (17:39) I don't know.
Scott Benner (17:40) You don't know anybody in AA? (17:42) No. (17:42) I think you're supposed to fake it till you make it.
Janelle (17:44) Ah, okay.
Scott Benner (17:45) Yeah. (17:46) Pretend that you're a calm.
Janelle (17:48) Okay.
Scott Benner (17:48) Yeah. (17:49) And then he'll become. (17:50) And then hopefully, you'll actually become. (17:52) Because Yeah. (17:53) The goal here is that you'll see that he's not gonna die Yeah.
Scott Benner (17:56) That nothing terrible is happening, and you'll chill the fuck out.
Janelle (17:59) Yeah. (18:00) Yeah. (18:01) Perfect world. (18:02) I agree.
Scott Benner (18:02) You promised you were gonna curse a lot in this episode, and you've not cursed, I don't think, one time.
Janelle (18:07) I don't know if that's a good thing or not.
Scott Benner (18:09) I'm worried that you're not comfortable.
Janelle (18:11) I feel like I am. (18:12) I feel like I am to some degree, but also I've definitely saved your editor some work. (18:15) So
Scott Benner (18:16) Yeah. (18:16) It's alright. (18:17) He's got listen. (18:18) I mean, he's just riding his bike and editing this podcast. (18:21) He really didn't have a lot to do.
Scott Benner (18:23) He's got the greatest life. (18:24) Rob's laughing at it. (18:25) He's like, don't have a great life. (18:26) He does. (18:26) He gets up in the morning sometimes, takes a laptop, bikes off somewhere, and edits the podcast, like, in a cafe.
Janelle (18:32) Okay. (18:33) Yeah. (18:34) That sounds sweet.
Scott Benner (18:35) It does, doesn't it?
Janelle (18:36) Yeah.
Scott Benner (18:37) Yeah. (18:38) Freaking hippie, Rob. (18:39) Yeah. (18:40) He's probably camping right now somewhere working. (18:43) Yeah.
Scott Benner (18:43) He's got a good life. (18:44) I don't know if he knows it or not, but from my perspective, I was like, this guy's doing it.
Janelle (18:48) Yeah. (18:49) The grass is always greener. (18:50) Right?
Scott Benner (18:50) Well, I don't know. (18:51) I don't see the grass. (18:52) I'm stuck in this room. (18:55) The grass. (18:56) I had to bring a chameleon in here to see something move and be alive and be green.
Janelle (19:00) Oh my god.
Scott Benner (19:01) He's still motoring around. (19:02) What's up, buddy? (19:02) You're having a big day today. (19:03) He ate a giant roach today and two huge silkworms. (19:07) He seems so happy.
Scott Benner (19:08) Yeah. (19:09) Yeah. (19:09) Okay. (19:10) So I don't know what to say to you because you already know all the things I was gonna say. (19:20) You believe them for the right reasons.
Scott Benner (19:22) You're on the path. (19:24) Mhmm. (19:25) But at the same time, and I don't wanna be a bummer, I have no confidence you're gonna do any of these things.
Janelle (19:30) Oh, I don't blame you because I don't have the confidence either.
Scott Benner (19:36) I feel like I could easily interview you five years from now, and you'd be like, oh, I'm making that kid fucking crazy, Scott. (19:41) You should For all the ladies that are listening and I mean, I could say men too if that would make you all feel better. (19:47) But for all the all the moms that are listening right now and are like, I'm doing this too, I wish there was an answer. (19:53) I don't think there's I don't think you need to be medicated. (19:55) You don't seem unstable to me at all.
Janelle (19:57) Thanks.
Scott Benner (19:57) Yeah. (19:58) You're welcome. (19:59) You're not depressed. (20:00) You have ang anxious thoughts, but I don't think you're anxiety ridden.
Janelle (20:04) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (20:05) You know, you're not worrying about things that aren't real. (20:08) The things you're concerned about are actually real. (20:10) Yeah. (20:11) It seems like you're just putting too much weight into them. (20:13) Now, in fairness, if I go back to three years into Arden's diagnosis, I'm out of my goddamn mind, and you seem much more reasonable than I did three years into it.
Scott Benner (20:25) Seriously, you're doing way better than I was doing.
Janelle (20:28) Yeah.
Scott Benner (20:29) Yeah. (20:29) So my thought is it's probably gonna be fine. (20:32) You're gonna mess that kid up a little bit, but I think you're gonna figure it out before it goes over the edge.
Janelle (20:37) Hopefully. (20:37) That's the goal.
Scott Benner (20:38) Yeah. (20:39) No. (20:39) It seems good. (20:40) I think you're onto something here.
Janelle (20:41) Okay.
Scott Benner (20:42) Don't overthink the overthinking.
Janelle (20:44) Yeah. (20:45) I think one overthinking is enough. (20:46) I don't need to, you know, multiply it by
Scott Benner (20:48) any means. (20:48) Because right now, you're no kidding. (20:50) You're overthinking the diabetes, and then you're realizing you're doing it and then trying to apply changes to it. (20:55) And now we're sitting here worrying about the worrying. (20:59) You see what I'm saying?
Janelle (21:00) It's always something.
Scott Benner (21:02) It's your whole generation. (21:03) Guys you gotta seriously, you guys are a mess. (21:06) Like, just chill out. (21:08) It's all gonna be okay.
Janelle (21:09) Yeah.
Scott Benner (21:10) Yeah. (21:10) You're not in charge of anything. (21:12) No. (21:12) It doesn't matter. (21:13) You can't you can't really change the world.
Scott Benner (21:15) You're you're upset about politics. (21:17) It doesn't matter. (21:18) You're upset about this. (21:19) It doesn't matter. (21:20) You want your husband to be different.
Scott Benner (21:21) Doesn't matter. (21:21) That's how boys are. (21:23) He wants you to stop worrying. (21:24) Doesn't matter. (21:24) That's how girls are.
Scott Benner (21:25) Your kids got a real issue. (21:27) It's worth worrying about. (21:28) It's just not worth ruining your life over. (21:30) Like, so Yeah. (21:31) My thought here would be stay rested.
Scott Benner (21:34) I know it sounds crazy, but make sure you're getting your sleep. (21:37) Because once the sleep starts slipping away, then all these thoughts could pile up on you real quickly. (21:41) Right?
Janelle (21:41) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (21:42) So keep sleeping. (21:43) Let the boy keep helping you. (21:45) Right? (21:45) Yeah. (21:46) Be a little nicer to him.
Scott Benner (21:48) Okay? (21:49) You know what I'm saying? (21:50) It's not like an alarm shouldn't go off once a month and you go, okay. (21:53) You've got ten minutes. (21:54) Like, that's not a really good way to do it.
Scott Benner (21:56) I'll talk to you now. (21:58) And he's like, I thought we'd have sex. (21:59) You go, listen, you can talk or have sex, but one way that you got ten minutes and I'm out of here. (22:03) You can't be like that. (22:04) Right?
Janelle (22:04) Yeah.
Scott Benner (22:06) And you just, like, you know, have experiences, realize that you know what's going to happen, and there's not a reason to worry about every little thing because you you understand this a lot better than you think you do. (22:17) Yeah. (22:17) That's all. (22:18) Yeah. (22:19) It's good self talk.
Janelle (22:21) Yeah. (22:21) I think it is.
Scott Benner (22:22) This is one of these episodes that Erica will listen to and later send me a text and go, you were so good with that girl, And I'll say thank you.
Janelle (22:29) I'll give him I'll give him a gold star.
Scott Benner (22:31) Oh, thank you. (22:32) The no copay. (22:33) I gotcha.
Janelle (22:34) No. (22:34) I mean, I don't know. (22:36) I'm thinking on that one.
Scott Benner (22:37) What are people paying for their therapy?
Janelle (22:38) I don't know. (22:39) I think it's I mean, I don't know. (22:41) Insurance is ridiculous. (22:43) But
Scott Benner (22:43) I know it is. (22:43) Do you have, like is it military insurance? (22:45) Is he still in, by the way, or is he out?
Janelle (22:47) No. (22:47) He's not. (22:47) He did he did five years, and then he got out.
Scott Benner (22:50) What's he doing now?
Janelle (22:52) He works for IBM.
Scott Benner (22:53) I gonna was say, what kind of good job did he get that you're sitting at not sitting at home. (22:56) You understand what mean? (22:57) You don't have to work.
Janelle (22:57) Well, I know what you're saying. (22:58) No. (22:58) I'm sitting at home.
Scott Benner (23:01) It's not like it's, like, 75, and I'm like, wow. (23:03) Your ass is spreading, and that boy's out there working. (23:06) Like, I wasn't talking about that. (23:07) Like, I just meant, like, I mean, you don't have to make an income is what I'm saying.
Janelle (23:10) No. (23:11) No. (23:11) I don't.
Scott Benner (23:11) Okay. (23:12) And North Carolina, a little cheaper to live. (23:14) Right?
Janelle (23:14) A little bit. (23:15) Yeah.
Scott Benner (23:15) That's not much because we keep coming down there and ruining it.
Janelle (23:19) I mean, I was one of the ones that came down here and ruined it, so I can't
Scott Benner (23:22) When I said we, I meant me and you. (23:23) Yeah. (23:24) Yeah. (23:24) Yeah. (23:25) I didn't didn't mean me and the people I'm living around.
Scott Benner (23:27) Although, my neighbor just left for North Carolina.
Janelle (23:30) Ah, okay.
Scott Benner (23:31) Actually, they're good people too.
Janelle (23:34) Okay.
Scott Benner (23:34) They're moving there because their daughter's playing softball in college, and they literally sold their house, changed jobs, and went there just so they could catch some of her softball games.
Janelle (23:43) That's so awesome.
Scott Benner (23:44) Yeah. (23:45) Anyway, for the rest of you, that's what good parenting looks like. (23:49) People are just like, my dad was doing heroin, and I'm lucky to be here. (23:52) Okay? (23:53) And so and I get it.
Scott Benner (23:54) We don't all get the same, the same good role as others. (23:58) Although, I do think it's overly simple, like, what causes. (24:01) And I I guess I'd like you to think about that, really. (24:04) Yeah. (24:05) Like, when I asked you why are you, like, a solid person, you named very basic things about your parents.
Janelle (24:12) Yeah.
Scott Benner (24:12) Right? (24:13) That should tell you that those are really the only things your kids need from you, really.
Janelle (24:17) Yeah.
Scott Benner (24:18) You know, the rest of this is sort of bull
Janelle (24:20) Yeah. (24:20) I agree.
Scott Benner (24:21) Yeah. (24:21) I mean, has your kid come close to having a seizure? (24:24) No. (24:25) Mine had one by the time they were three.
Janelle (24:27) Really?
Scott Benner (24:28) Yeah. (24:28) Arden had one. (24:29) She was, like, six months after she was diagnosed.
Janelle (24:31) That's wild. (24:32) Yeah. (24:32) We've been we've been very fortunate. (24:34) He hasn't gone back into DKA. (24:36) I mean, he wasn't in DKA at diagnosis, he's never gone into DKA in the three and a half years that we've been
Scott Benner (24:41) No. (24:41) You caught it quickly, by the way. (24:43) Yeah. (24:44) Yeah. (24:44) In the story, it got lost a little bit because I was a I'm a little all over the place today, but that's between us.
Scott Benner (24:48) But, I mean but, like, it got you you you picked that up pretty quickly. (24:52) You you got him in the hospital on time. (24:54) It sounds like early even. (24:56) I mean Yeah. (24:56) You're gonna use that same brain to watch him as he's moving forward.
Scott Benner (25:00) Yeah. (25:00) And the only real damage you can do to him is what? (25:03) Come on. (25:04) It's right there. (25:04) Just saying.
Janelle (25:05) It's right there. (25:05) It's right there. (25:06) I mean, I guess give him negative associations with type one.
Scott Benner (25:10) Yeah. (25:10) You don't wanna be one of those people that when people talk about their mom, go, you you know my mom. (25:14) She's a you you you know. (25:16) Yeah. (25:16) Yeah.
Scott Benner (25:17) Yeah. (25:17) You know people. (25:17) Right? (25:18) Yeah. (25:18) Hey, my mom.
Scott Benner (25:19) My mom. (25:19) You you know what I'm saying? (25:21) Yeah. (25:21) You just don't want them to say that. (25:22) You just wanna say, oh, my mom's cool.
Scott Benner (25:24) Yeah. (25:24) Yeah. (25:25) To be cool. (25:26) Be a little Fonzie.
Janelle (25:28) I need to.
Scott Benner (25:29) Do you even know what that means?
Janelle (25:31) I feel like I've heard that saying before.
Scott Benner (25:32) Oh my god. (25:33) You don't know what that means?
Janelle (25:34) No. (25:35) Oh,
Scott Benner (25:35) hell. (25:35) I'm gonna be dead soon. (25:37) Okay. (25:38) Jeez. (25:39) Fonzie was a character on a television show called Happy Days.
Janelle (25:43) Okay.
Scott Benner (25:43) And he was a very cool person. (25:46) And back then, was nothing better than being cool in the fifties when the show was being, portrayed, and he was almost magical. (25:52) Fonzie could strike a jukebox and it would just start playing the song he wanted just by tapping it with his fist.
Janelle (25:59) Okay.
Scott Benner (25:59) He was like a magician in the fifties with a leather jacket riding a motorcycle.
Janelle (26:03) Okay.
Scott Benner (26:04) Yeah. (26:04) Had, like, a real, like, kind of, like, tough guy vibe, ironically played by a a very mild mannered Jewish man named Henry Winkler.
Janelle (26:13) Okay.
Scott Benner (26:13) Who is a a a lovely man if you go find him somewhere and where he's still an older man talking right now. (26:19) Just lovely. (26:21) It's not the point. (26:22) The point is is that, it was, like, be cool like Fonzie.
Janelle (26:26) Okay.
Scott Benner (26:26) So we're all gonna be little Fonzies. (26:28) Now that's a lot hold on. (26:30) You're not done yet with the rest of
Janelle (26:31) done yet. (26:32) I'm still listening.
Scott Benner (26:33) Be little Fonzies is a line from Pulp Fiction. (26:36) I'm gonna guess another movie you haven't seen.
Janelle (26:38) Yeah. (26:39) No.
Scott Benner (26:39) Oh my god, you people. (26:41) Okay. (26:43) So there's, like, this moment where everybody's pointing guns at each other. (26:46) I think Sam Jackson was it Sam Jackson's little Fonzie? (26:49) Yeah.
Scott Benner (26:49) He's like, hey. (26:49) He's like, be cool. (26:50) Be cool. (26:50) We're all Fonzie or little Fonzies or something like that. (26:53) Anyway, that's written by Quentin Tarantino.
Janelle (26:56) Okay.
Scott Benner (26:57) You've seen any of his movies? (26:58) No. (26:59) What have you been doing?
Janelle (27:00) Diabetes.
Scott Benner (27:01) Why don't you go watch a fun why don't you go watch a what's your favorite movie? (27:05) Let's pivot for a second, Janelle. (27:07) What's your favorite film? (27:08) Gonna say 13 going on 30 or something like that? (27:10) I'm gonna kill myself.
Scott Benner (27:11) Also, don't think we're allowed to say that
Janelle (27:13) on even lamer and say that I'm a Disney adult.
Scott Benner (27:15) Oh my god, Janelle. (27:17) Stop it. (27:19) And the rest of you stop it too. (27:23) I mean, listen. (27:24) I did I tell somebody the other day what a good movie The Incredibles is?
Scott Benner (27:28) I did. (27:28) You know? (27:29) Actually, it was Rob. (27:30) I was it made me I don't Rob and I were talking about something. (27:33) Rob and I text a lot, apparently.
Scott Benner (27:36) And I was, I was talking about that scene where Frozone is looking for a super suit.
Janelle (27:41) Yeah.
Scott Benner (27:41) Yeah. (27:42) And he's like he's like, woman, where is my super suit? (27:44) That whole thing? (27:45) I love that. (27:46) I love it.
Scott Benner (27:46) It's a great scene. (27:47) And then I said, The Incredibles is probably the best Fantastic Four movie we're ever gonna get. (27:53) Right? (27:53) And now you're here telling me you have not seen Pulp Fiction? (27:56) No.
Scott Benner (27:57) Have you even heard of it?
Janelle (27:59) Yeah. (27:59) I've heard of it.
Scott Benner (28:00) And what stops you from watching it?
Janelle (28:04) I don't know. (28:04) I guess I've never been, like, a huge movie person in general, so maybe that's why.
Scott Benner (28:08) Well, that's fine. (28:09) Do you prefer television? (28:10) Have you seen New Girl?
Janelle (28:12) Yes. (28:13) I've seen some episodes of New Girl.
Scott Benner (28:14) Some episode how do you start watching New Girl and not watch them all? (28:18) Are you busy with the diabetes?
Janelle (28:19) I think think I tried it a while ago and I just couldn't get into it.
Scott Benner (28:22) Oh my god. (28:23) What is happening to everybody?
Janelle (28:25) I don't know.
Scott Benner (28:26) The sarcasm is so tight in New Girl. (28:27) It's awesome. (28:29) Alright. (28:29) And it's, okay. (28:30) This is not the point.
Scott Benner (28:32) I need you to I need you to relax. (28:34) What are we gonna do one thing this weekend that gets you away from diabetes? (28:38) Take that kid no offense, Paxton. (28:40) Take that kid. (28:42) You name him after Bill Paxton?
Scott Benner (28:43) No way. (28:44) You don't even know who the hell Bill Paxton is. (28:45) Never mind. (28:46) No. (28:46) Alright.
Scott Benner (28:46) Take that kid and to your moms, and go over there and say to her this. (28:51) This is a following. (28:51) Go, mom, listen. (28:52) I love you, but I am noticing I am really uptight. (28:56) And I gotta I gotta and, god bless you.
Scott Benner (28:58) You are too. (29:00) But it's too late for you now, and it's not too late for me. (29:03) So I'm gonna I wanna I'm gonna give these kids to you. (29:06) I need you to keep them alive, and I don't wanna hear from you for the next three hours. (29:11) Okay?
Scott Benner (29:11) Like, it's like, don't kill this kid. (29:13) I wanna think he's gonna die. (29:14) Even the little one, what's her name over there with the red hair? (29:16) If she falls off of something and then nothing's broken, I don't wanna hear about it. (29:20) Okay?
Scott Benner (29:20) Three hours, my husband and I, we're gonna go to a movie. (29:23) We're gonna have lunch, and we're gonna make sex, and then we'll be back and get these kids. (29:26) Okay? (29:27) Also, if I was you, I'd sex before the lunch, but that's just how I think about it, but it's up to you how you handle it, Janelle.
Janelle (29:33) Personal preference.
Scott Benner (29:34) I don't like you on a full belly. (29:36) You know what I mean? (29:36) Me me or him. (29:37) Like, nothing worse than somebody's like, well, I'm gonna go to the bathroom first. (29:40) But now it's over.
Scott Benner (29:41) You know what
Janelle (29:42) I mean? (29:42) Like We're done now.
Scott Benner (29:43) Yeah. (29:43) Yeah. (29:44) Yeah. (29:44) Now that part's not happening anymore. (29:46) So, like, I say, what do we do?
Scott Benner (29:48) We go sex, a movie. (29:50) That's nice. (29:51) You kinda lean on each other in the film. (29:53) Then you go to have some lunch, and then you go get the kid.
Janelle (29:56) Yeah.
Scott Benner (29:56) Yeah. (29:57) And then you and then when you get back there, normally, you go, what happened? (30:00) Tell me everything. (30:00) You don't even ask. (30:01) You go, hey.
Scott Benner (30:02) We're here for the kids. (30:03) And you just take them and you leave.
Janelle (30:05) Alright.
Scott Benner (30:05) It's a good practice run. (30:07) And you'll have all that serotonin, whatever that happens to you from the intercourse. (30:11) You know what I mean? (30:11) Like, I say it's good for you. (30:13) You'll be chilled out a little bit.
Scott Benner (30:15) He's gonna be happy as a clam. (30:17) Mean, you he won't argue for a week about anything. (30:20) You know what I mean? (30:20) You could be like, we're buying a new sofa and painting the room. (30:23) He'd be like, right on.
Scott Benner (30:23) Let's do it. (30:24) And so you got him nice and calm. (30:26) You forget about the kids for a couple of hours. (30:28) You let your mom in on it so that she knows you need a little separation from this right now. (30:33) Like, don't be I I it'll be texting me.
Scott Benner (30:35) Don't ask me anything. (30:36) You're a nurse. (30:37) If you can't keep this kid alive, says a lot about you. (30:42) Put it on her. (30:43) You know what I mean?
Janelle (30:43) Yeah.
Scott Benner (30:44) And then that's it. (30:45) And you come can you do that?
Janelle (30:47) Yeah.
Scott Benner (30:48) Alright. (30:49) Hey. (30:49) If your husband gets laid out of this, I expect a thank you note. (30:52) Oh my gosh. (30:56) You too, by the way.
Scott Benner (30:57) Both of you write a note. (30:58) And I want them separately. (30:59) I don't want them together.
Janelle (31:00) Okay. (31:01) Sounds like a plan.
Scott Benner (31:01) Yeah. (31:02) I want separate thank you notes. (31:04) Alright. (31:04) Just what else? (31:06) What oh my god.
Scott Benner (31:07) I'm out of my mind today. (31:08) It's a Friday. (31:08) We shouldn't have done this on a Friday.
Janelle (31:11) Poor planning.
Scott Benner (31:12) Oh my god. (31:13) I'm really good. (31:13) These are my best podcast. (31:15) Do you think I'm the only one that thinks that, or do you think other people are listening and enjoying it?
Janelle (31:19) I think everyone hopes that you record more on Fridays.
Scott Benner (31:22) Yeah. (31:22) I hope so. (31:23) Because as I get done, I I like, I'll get done here, and I'll think, am I the only one that enjoyed that? (31:29) Or is
Janelle (31:31) No. (31:31) I'm having a blast.
Scott Benner (31:32) Oh, good. (31:32) Then I try to decide if I care.
Janelle (31:35) The answer's probably no.
Scott Benner (31:36) I'm in a really unique position where enough people listen that, like, I really could just do it for me at this point, and it wouldn't really matter. (31:45) I could kinda, like, handle it that way. (31:46) But I'm trying to give you guys what you want to. (31:48) Also, I think we've mixed in a lot of good advice in this conversation. (31:53) Yeah.
Scott Benner (31:54) Yeah. (31:54) I've said some questionable things here and there, but I don't think anything cancelable. (31:58) So, like, you know No.
Janelle (31:59) I mean, I think this episode is definitely cleaner than squishy pushy.
Scott Benner (32:02) Oh, wait. (32:03) Do you guys hear that one? (32:04) Yeah. (32:04) Yeah. (32:05) Yeah.
Scott Benner (32:05) This one's way cleaner than that. (32:06) And Brenda cursed a lot. (32:09) Jeez. (32:09) A lot. (32:10) God.
Scott Benner (32:10) She said some things I never thought I'd hear a 71 year old lady say, but then there it was. (32:14) So anyway Check
Janelle (32:16) it off your list now.
Scott Benner (32:16) Let me just tell you what I'm expecting is that Brenda's also gonna see a movie that I know get laid this weekend too is what I'm getting at. (32:26) So she's she's awesome. (32:28) Oh, like, you were good.
Janelle (32:29) Those are the those are, like, the best episodes.
Scott Benner (32:31) I hope so. (32:32) I really do. (32:33) I always think too about, like, people who just, like, I just did a speaking gig.
Janelle (32:36) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (32:36) Like, so I imagine all the people who were, oh, you talked about pre policing and blah blah blah, and then they're gonna turn on an episode and I'm gonna be saying to you. (32:43) I'm, go to a movie and get laid. (32:44) They're gonna be, like
Janelle (32:46) This this podcast is about only type one stuff. (32:49) Right? (32:49) Like, free ketos and all that fun stuff.
Scott Benner (32:52) Kid has type one diabetes. (32:53) I didn't break the rules. (32:55) Don't worry. (32:56) Somebody asked me the other day, what's your podcast about? (32:58) I'm like, oh, it's just a podcast.
Janelle (32:59) It's just a podcast.
Scott Benner (33:00) Yeah. (33:00) And they're like they're like, about type one? (33:02) I'm like, well, I mean, I talk to people who have diabetes.
Janelle (33:04) Yeah. (33:04) There's some connection.
Scott Benner (33:06) I mean, loose. (33:08) But, again, I and I told I followed up, and I was like, if I I said, you make a podcast that's just about diabetes, and what you're making is a podcast that no one's gonna listen to. (33:17) So I
Janelle (33:18) mean, fair. (33:18) Yeah.
Scott Benner (33:19) Yeah. (33:19) Just it's not don't get me wrong. (33:21) I'm sure that you get a couple downloads, but you're not gonna yeah. (33:24) I could be celebrating 20,000,000 like I'm gonna be next month. (33:27) Congrats.
Scott Benner (33:29) Just I'm just celebrating here on my own right now. (33:31) Do you have any idea how few podcasts get 20,000,000 total downloads?
Janelle (33:35) I don't. (33:36) But
Scott Benner (33:36) It ain't a lot.
Janelle (33:37) I will I will take your word for it.
Scott Benner (33:38) It ain't a lot. (33:39) I'm I'm I'm sitting at the very tip of a mountain. (33:42) The only people above me are very famous people and anybody who's ever been on the Joe Rogan podcast.
Janelle (33:48) Hey. (33:48) There you go. (33:48) I'd say that's something to be proud of.
Scott Benner (33:50) I I I'm pretty pretty proud of it, to be perfectly honest with you. (33:52) Okay. (33:52) Do you have any questions for me? (33:54) Anything at all that you wanna talk about?
Janelle (33:56) I don't think so.
Scott Benner (33:58) We did it?
Janelle (33:59) I think I think we I think we did a little a good little therapy session.
Scott Benner (34:03) I do too. (34:03) This is I'm way better than your therapist. (34:05) It's okay if you wanna say it.
Janelle (34:06) Yeah. (34:06) Hopefully, she doesn't listen to this and feel
Scott Benner (34:08) Inadequate? (34:09) Yeah. (34:12) But she's probably got rules she's following.
Janelle (34:15) I would I mean, fair. (34:16) Yeah.
Scott Benner (34:17) And she's probably burdened by things like, you know, her education and knowing what she's talking about. (34:24) I have no such burdens. (34:26) Janelle, I have no such burdens.
Janelle (34:28) No. (34:28) No such burdens.
Scott Benner (34:29) Yeah. (34:29) I'm just over here saying what I think makes sense.
Janelle (34:32) Hey. (34:32) Whatever.
Scott Benner (34:33) Yeah. (34:33) Also, your husband. (34:34) What's his name?
Janelle (34:35) Tyler.
Scott Benner (34:36) Tyler, I'm gonna speak directly to you right now. (34:38) You can't tell your wife to calm down. (34:41) I mean, I know we we act like it's it's all, like, equal and everything and, like, you know, it's not exactly equal. (34:47) There's, like, a handful of things you can't say to your wife. (34:50) Like, here's another one.
Scott Benner (34:51) Like, it's not that bad. (34:52) You don't say that during their period. (34:53) You know? (34:54) But it's not really that bad, is it? (34:55) You know?
Scott Benner (34:57) You don't say stuff like that. (34:59) You knew not to say the thing about the period. (35:00) How did you not know to not say the thing about the calm down?
Janelle (35:03) No. (35:04) It just makes it worse.
Scott Benner (35:05) Oh my god. (35:06) Are you kidding? (35:08) Only a thing you say if you want to make a fight, not if you wanna stop a fight.
Janelle (35:12) Exactly.
Scott Benner (35:13) Yeah. (35:14) You should just calm down. (35:15) I could see it in my wife's eyes. (35:18) If she had a gun, she'd murder me. (35:19) Okay?
Scott Benner (35:21) Now I I'm a glutton for punishment. (35:23) So every once in a while, I'll throw it in there, but not like you can't and she does it to me too. (35:28) I see her Yeah. (35:28) Like, picking at me. (35:30) You do that to him every once in a while?
Janelle (35:31) Every once in a while.
Scott Benner (35:32) Yeah. (35:33) Yeah. (35:33) Just to get him going for reasons you can't even, like, put into words. (35:36) Right?
Janelle (35:36) Yeah. (35:37) Yeah. (35:37) He's gotta push the buttons.
Scott Benner (35:38) You're just like, oh, let's see what happens if I do this.
Janelle (35:40) Yeah. (35:40) Oh
Scott Benner (35:43) my god. (35:44) I like okay. (35:45) You said you're never having any more kids. (35:46) I think you're gonna have more
Janelle (35:48) Oh, I hope not.
Scott Benner (35:49) I think you may I tell you what I think is gonna happen?
Janelle (35:51) Go for it.
Scott Benner (35:52) You're gonna chill out in the next year and a half or so. (35:55) Mhmm. (35:55) You're on a pathway. (35:56) You're doing well. (35:57) You're gonna realize the impact it's gonna have on your family.
Scott Benner (35:59) I think you're smart enough and thoughtful enough to put an end to it. (36:01) Right? (36:02) So you're gonna you're gonna tamp it back a little bit, and then everything's gonna seem lighter. (36:06) And then that voice in your head's gonna go, maybe we should have one more baby. (36:11) And then you're not gonna gain your wits about you in time, and then you're gonna be pregnant.
Janelle (36:15) It'll be too late.
Scott Benner (36:18) And then you'll spend the rest of your life going, what did I do here? (36:22) Yeah. (36:22) And then you know who you're gonna blame? (36:24) Tyler. (36:24) Tyler, you're gonna say, you should have spoken up, Tyler.
Scott Benner (36:26) You knew I didn't wanna have more kids. (36:28) And yet when I came to you in a moment of weakness, you made me pregnant again, you shouldn't have done that. (36:33) And then Tyler's gonna say, I thought I wasn't supposed to argue with you. (36:36) And then you're gonna say, well, not in those situations. (36:39) And then Tyler's gonna go run his head into a wall, and you're gonna smile with the rest of your life.
Janelle (36:43) Oh, my god. (36:44) It's a it's a lose lose. (36:46) Right?
Scott Benner (36:46) Well, that is what, being a heterosexual male is. (36:49) Yes. (36:49) Yeah. (36:51) You know, the only people that have it worse are lesbians.
Janelle (36:54) Oh, my god.
Scott Benner (36:55) I don't know what they're doing. (36:57) They're out of their minds. (36:58) Ivy, can you imagine?
Janelle (37:00) Yeah.
Scott Benner (37:01) Like, two people in the same situation telling each other to calm down at different parts.
Janelle (37:05) I I don't know how that would work.
Scott Benner (37:07) Oh, no. (37:07) I mean, obviously, it's gotta be incredibly difficult. (37:10) Yeah. (37:11) And by the way, is gonna be one of these things where I sound older, like a thing that older people say and everything. (37:17) And if you're thinking that right now, just try to stay alive twenty more years, then come back and check on them.
Scott Benner (37:22) Okay. (37:22) By the way, nothing wrong with, how anybody works or, you know, like, you know, I'm okay with how boys are, how girls are, how everybody is. (37:30) It's just the thing that I think you honestly need to understand while you're navigating your life. (37:35) I'm not overly generalizing and saying, you know how this person is or you know how this person can act. (37:39) Just are people, they have reactions to things.
Scott Benner (37:42) I don't know anything special about you, Janelle. (37:44) Like, I've just talked to 1,500 people. (37:47) Yeah. (37:48) Yeah. (37:48) We have a lot in common, and a lot of it is stuff that we like to pretend we're in control of, but really is more chemical or emotional than you wanna think it is.
Scott Benner (37:56) And silly to sit here and say that you're gonna stop it or that you're gonna therapy your way out of it or whatever. (38:03) It really is gonna turn into a situation where, like, you're gonna have a a an amount of experience. (38:08) It's gonna tell you how you wanna be. (38:10) And with some luck and a lot of effort, you'll do it. (38:13) Yeah.
Scott Benner (38:14) And some people do and some people don't. (38:16) I think it's got a lot to do with how much it means to you to get it done and how much time and effort you're willing to put into it to, you know, create a life for yourself that, you know, mimics the one you imagine.
Janelle (38:27) Yeah. (38:27) Agreed.
Scott Benner (38:28) That's it. (38:28) That's all. (38:29) And the rest of it's just silliness so that you'll listen. (38:32) Yeah. (38:32) Because I gotta sell these ads.
Scott Benner (38:34) Yeah. (38:34) I mean, Jesus. (38:35) It's something. (38:36) Hey. (38:36) You have no idea what it's like.
Scott Benner (38:37) You all out there with, like, your regular jobs. (38:39) You think they're hard? (38:40) Just try making a podcast. (38:42) It ain't easy.
Janelle (38:43) Oh, my gosh. (38:43) I can only imagine.
Scott Benner (38:44) No. (38:45) Do know what sucks? (38:46) Parts of it. (38:47) This part this part's fun. (38:49) Like, the rest of it, it's not as much fun.
Janelle (38:51) This is the easy part.
Scott Benner (38:53) This is the entire easy part. (38:55) It it real it really is. (38:56) Not like pipe fitting or anything like that, but it's Yeah. (38:59) I mean, it's not like making sure the email works for the military. (39:01) That sounds hard.
Scott Benner (39:04) You guys, does he, keep up with the certification? (39:07) Does he shoot?
Janelle (39:09) No. (39:09) Not, like, normally.
Scott Benner (39:11) Didn't even care.
Janelle (39:11) Not regularly.
Scott Benner (39:12) So you're not, like, an average, like, military young military family, really?
Janelle (39:17) I think it's more just the fact that he's putting his extra time elsewhere right now. (39:22) He's trying to finish up, he's in the last semester, for his bachelor's degree. (39:26) So he's trying to knock that out.
Scott Benner (39:28) Good for him. (39:29) That's awesome. (39:30) Oh, so he went in bef oh, yeah. (39:31) He went in without college, and then he came out and he's getting his degree. (39:35) He's working and getting a degree?
Scott Benner (39:37) Yeah. (39:38) Wait a minute. (39:38) He's working and getting a degree, and he's got a kid with type one. (39:42) He's got a wife who's freaking herself out about the type one.
Janelle (39:45) Yeah. (39:45) And we both coach soccer on top of that.
Scott Benner (39:47) You both coach soccer, I still had to tell you to have sex this weekend? (39:51) What the hell is wrong with you, Janelle? (39:53) Let's get to it. (39:53) Okay? (39:54) My god.
Scott Benner (39:56) I went over this in a recent episode. (39:57) I can't do it again. (39:58) But you're you're a whole generation. (39:59) You're not having sex enough. (40:01) I don't know what you're doing.
Scott Benner (40:04) I know you got the phone. (40:05) It's awesome and everything. (40:06) But, like, you gotta stop putting the blocks in order or whatever it is you're doing on your phone and, like you know what I mean?
Janelle (40:13) Yeah.
Scott Benner (40:13) It's like the best free thing in the world. (40:16) That I mean, it's a toss-up, really. (40:18) Pizza and sex, both awesome.
Janelle (40:20) I mean yeah.
Scott Benner (40:21) Yeah. (40:21) I mean, not that you no. (40:22) Not since you moved from New York. (40:23) Hey. (40:24) Tell people how much better the pizza was at home.
Janelle (40:26) Oh, so much better.
Scott Benner (40:27) Mhmm. (40:28) Mhmm. (40:28) They don't think they don't believe me when I say it.
Janelle (40:30) No. (40:30) North Carolina pizza is
Scott Benner (40:32) Yeah. (40:32) Most of you are eating the worst pizza in the world. (40:34) You don't even realize it.
Janelle (40:35) You don't even realize it.
Scott Benner (40:36) You have no idea. (40:37) I actually just saying it out loud, I'm gonna go get myself a pizza right now. (40:42) I am. (40:42) I'm gonna go to one of the best rated pizza places in New Jersey and get a pie.
Janelle (40:47) That sounds so good.
Scott Benner (40:49) You've all seen that remember that barstool guy who seemed fun and then turned into a lunatic? (40:54) You've all seen him stand outside of a pizza place that is, like, five seconds from my house enjoying a slice of pizza.
Janelle (41:01) Oh, my gosh.
Scott Benner (41:02) And I'm gonna go I'm gonna go there right now.
Janelle (41:05) And I'm gonna go there.
Scott Benner (41:06) Alright, Janelle. (41:06) Hold on a second. (41:07) You were awesome, by the way.
Janelle (41:09) Thanks.
Scott Benner (41:09) Please listen to only, like, 12% of what I said. (41:15) Why are you so nice? (41:17) I don't know. (41:18) You are, though. (41:19) You know it.
Scott Benner (41:20) Right?
Janelle (41:21) I don't think I do. (41:22) I think, honestly, most of the time, I think I'm just like a cranky bitch.
Scott Benner (41:25) Do you think you're a cranky bitch?
Janelle (41:28) Sometimes. (41:28) Yeah.
Scott Benner (41:29) Has this not been reminiscent of who you are today?
Janelle (41:32) I think more so, like, this is who I am when I'm not necessarily worried about the other stuff.
Scott Benner (41:38) Oh, like a like a doctor Jack or mister Hyde sort of situation.
Janelle (41:42) Maybe. (41:43) Yeah. (41:43) Which one is the question? (41:43) Have a maybe I have a personality disorder. (41:45) Maybe we missed that diagnosis.
Scott Benner (41:47) I just sniffed that out in the first twenty five minutes. (41:48) I'm fine. (41:49) You're that doesn't exist. (41:51) Do you think people now are listening are like, do you think he thought I had a personality disorder when he was recording with me? (41:55) He didn't mention it because, like, I mean, would I mention it if I thought you had one?
Scott Benner (41:58) Probably not.
Janelle (41:59) This journal of all of his podcast guests and what mental illness he suspects they have.
Scott Benner (42:03) Meanwhile, I should see the list of mental illnesses I suspect I might have.
Janelle (42:07) Which list is longer?
Scott Benner (42:09) Well, I don't wanna say. (42:10) It's embarrassing. (42:11) But no. (42:12) But you wait. (42:13) So this is who you wanna be?
Janelle (42:16) Yeah. (42:17) I would say so.
Scott Benner (42:18) Okay. (42:19) So then tell me how to be that person. (42:22) Like, what are you doing right now that you don't do in your regular life? (42:24) Because I'm just me. (42:26) Like, I don't have, like, another gear.
Janelle (42:28) Yeah. (42:30) I don't know. (42:31) I think I'm just sitting here not worried about Pax's blood sugars right now, and it's mostly as simple as that.
Scott Benner (42:36) And is he alive?
Janelle (42:38) Yeah. (42:38) He's alive.
Scott Benner (42:39) Is he under your charge right now?
Janelle (42:42) Kind of. (42:43) I told my husband that I was obviously tied up, and so I told him you're in charge of whatever happens and don't bother me.
Scott Benner (42:49) And now you're okay?
Janelle (42:51) I'm okay.
Scott Benner (42:52) Well, then just keep doing that.
Janelle (42:53) Yeah. (42:53) I know. (42:54) But like you said, it's easier said than done.
Scott Benner (42:56) Janelle, I gotta tell you again. (42:57) You gotta calm the down. (42:58) Like like I mean, if this is who you could be, you're awesome.
Janelle (43:03) Thanks.
Scott Benner (43:03) Yeah. (43:03) And I mean, I'm twice your age, so it feels weird. (43:05) But, like, I don't know what you look like. (43:07) I don't know anything. (43:08) And I would easily if I was your age, I'd be like and you well, of course, this Tyler guy didn't scoop you up.
Scott Benner (43:14) I'd be like, hey. (43:15) We should we should go out to dinner and get to know each other. (43:17) Like, you have a really good vibe about you.
Janelle (43:19) Thank you.
Scott Benner (43:19) Yeah. (43:20) No. (43:20) You're welcome. (43:20) But you're telling me that if I met you in any other situation, I would run for the hills. (43:24) Is that right?
Janelle (43:25) Possibly. (43:26) Yeah. (43:27) If you caught me at a bad moment, a 100%. (43:29) Uh-oh. (43:31) Like, actually, disengage.
Janelle (43:32) We're gonna go the other way.
Scott Benner (43:33) That lady's running a key down the side of my car in the parking lot. (43:38) Why? (43:39) I don't know. (43:39) I think I parked crooked. (43:40) She seemed very upset.
Janelle (43:41) Your your tire was touching the line.
Scott Benner (43:45) Alright. (43:46) Listen. (43:46) Janelle, for you and everyone else listening who wish they could be this version of themselves, I wish you all a ton of luck. (43:51) I can only tell you that I am, generally speaking, this level of this all the time. (43:58) And I am as nervous and worried as the rest of you about everything else.
Scott Benner (44:02) I don't know why that is, and I genuinely feel bad about it. (44:05) Whenever I talk to somebody who's anxious and I wouldn't put you in the level of, like, anxiety ridden. (44:09) But, like, whenever I talk to somebody who's struggling with that, it pulls to my heartstrings more than anything else because I wish you could feel what it feels like not to have that hanging over your head. (44:22) Like, I I don't think I can properly explain it to you.
Janelle (44:25) I don't I think it's hard to imagine what it would be like to not have it hanging over my head.
Scott Benner (44:29) It's so it's so freeing not to like, and that's all I can think when I'm talking to you. (44:34) Like, if I felt the way you felt, I imagine I'd be having the exact same outcomes that you're having. (44:39) Yeah. (44:39) Yeah. (44:40) And the weed didn't help.
Scott Benner (44:41) So I don't You wanna try mushrooms or something? (44:44) Like, I'm not an advocate, but, I mean, like, are you I mean, you know some
Janelle (44:48) I don't know. (44:49) I don't know if I'm on board with the mushrooms.
Scott Benner (44:50) You know some military people. (44:52) I'm assuming you could get a hold of it if you needed to.
Janelle (44:54) I mean, maybe.
Scott Benner (44:55) Is he keep in touch with the guys or no?
Janelle (44:58) Yes and no.
Scott Benner (44:59) Depends. (45:00) Depends on who they are in this situation. (45:01) Yeah. (45:01) I gotcha. (45:02) Alright.
Scott Benner (45:02) You're very interesting.
Janelle (45:04) Thank you.
Scott Benner (45:04) Yes. (45:05) You can come back again.
Janelle (45:06) Okay. (45:07) Cool.
Scott Benner (45:08) Couple years from now, when you figure the whole thing out and you know what you did, come back and tell everybody.
Janelle (45:14) Alright. (45:14) Cool.
Scott Benner (45:14) I will keep the podcast going until then. (45:16) That's the my that's that's my burden. (45:18) My burden is to keep this podcast going. (45:20) Your burden is to put your shit into motion and make it work.
Janelle (45:23) Alright. (45:24) Sounds like a plan.
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