#1706 The Classic Smash and Dash
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Rachel shares her chaotic journey through three pregnancies misdiagnosed as Gestational Diabetes before a life-threatening DKA event revealed she has LADA (Type 1). She discusses the dangers of misdiagnosis, the "smash and dash" humor of her marriage, and managing her fourth pregnancy with the right tools.
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Scott Benner (0:00) Hello, friends. (0:01) Welcome to the Juice Box podcast. (0:03) Happy holidays to everyone juggling carbs, cookies, and the chaos of this season.
Rachel (0:17) Hi. (0:17) I'm Rachel. (0:18) I have diabetes. (0:20) I got diagnosed at the January, the whole DKA drama as one does sometimes. (0:27) And I'm 26, so a little late in the game, one would think.
Rachel (0:31) However, we've learned so much differently now.
Scott Benner (0:35) My diabetes pro tip series is about cutting through the clutter of diabetes management to give you the straightforward practical insights that truly make a difference. (0:44) This series is all about mastering the fundamentals, whether it's the basics of insulin, dosing adjustments, or everyday management strategies that will empower you to take control. (0:54) I'm joined by Jenny Smith, who is a diabetes educator with over thirty five years of personal experience, and we break down complex concepts into simple actionable tips. (1:04) The diabetes pro tip series runs between episode one thousand and one thousand twenty five in your podcast player, or you can listen to it at juiceboxpodcast.com by going up into the menu. (1:16) Please don't forget that nothing you hear on the juice box podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise.
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Rachel (2:51) Hi. (2:52) I'm Rachel.
Scott Benner (2:53) Hey, Rachel. (2:54) How are you?
Rachel (2:55) I'm good. (2:56) How are you?
Scott Benner (2:57) Excellent. (2:57) Thank you. (2:58) I'm having a good day. (2:59) What do we not know about you? (3:00) What do we need to know?
Scott Benner (3:01) You got diabetes? (3:02) You got a kid with diabetes? (3:03) You're just here because you love me? (3:04) What are we here for?
Rachel (3:05) Well, I would be here if I loved you, but I don't think you'd let me be on the podcast if that were the case. (3:09) But, no, I have diabetes. (3:11) I got diagnosed at the January, the whole DKA drama as one does sometimes. (3:18) Just
Scott Benner (3:19) ten months ago?
Rachel (3:21) Yeah.
Scott Benner (3:22) Okay.
Rachel (3:22) It was and I'm 26, so a little late in the game, one would think. (3:27) However, we've learned so much differently now.
Scott Benner (3:30) Yeah. (3:30) You have a better understanding. (3:32) What happened that that you, I guess, what led you also, let me correct you for a second. (3:37) If there's somebody out there listening who has no connection to diabetes and you're just listening to this podcast because you like it, you can a 100% be on. (3:44) If nothing else, just to tell me that.
Scott Benner (3:46) Okay?
Rachel (3:47) Interesting.
Scott Benner (3:47) I would love to know why somebody would be listening if they have no connection to diabetes.
Rachel (3:52) I'd be really curious too. (3:54) Like, if it were a doctor or something like that, just a random guy, I'm I'm really curious.
Scott Benner (3:58) No connection. (3:59) They're just out there like, I don't know. (4:00) I love this podcast. (4:01) I wanna know why.
Rachel (4:02) They're just yeah. (4:03) I'm really curious. (4:04) That would
Scott Benner (4:04) be great.
Rachel (4:04) Somebody if anybody is out there that way, please come on the podcast. (4:07) I wanna hear that.
Scott Benner (4:08) Rachel, thank you. (4:09) Appreciate this.
Rachel (4:09) Yeah. (4:09) I'd listen to that episode.
Scott Benner (4:10) Yeah. (4:11) Of course you would. (4:11) I I'd make it lovely one way or the other. (4:13) Here's what I need to know. (4:15) How did you notice something was wrong?
Scott Benner (4:17) And I wanna know if there's any other people in your life, your family connected to you that has autoimmune issues other than diabetes.
Rachel (4:23) Yeah. (4:24) This is I kinda got out, like, a timeline for you. (4:27) Oh. (4:27) It's it's a really I don't wanna say typical misdiagnosed type two story, but it kind of is. (4:34) Do you want me to just give you the timeline?
Scott Benner (4:36) I would love it.
Rachel (4:37) K. (4:37) I have, like, a little drama in my head about it, so I hope you don't mind. (4:40) Do you mind a little drama?
Scott Benner (4:41) Is it gonna be a radio play? (4:42) Do you need me to do the inserts? (4:44) Honestly? (4:45) Could jump in once in a while and go, it's about them that Rachel discovered.
Rachel (4:49) I 100%. (4:50) You need to, like, hire a whole another team for this. (4:52) Like, we need a musical production as well. (4:54) Like, we're gonna
Scott Benner (4:55) Let's see if we can do it as a one woman show first. (4:57) Go ahead.
Rachel (4:58) Yeah. (4:59) Okay. (4:59) So the timeline starts. (5:00) Like, I have this I've, like, tracked this all in my head from each memory about how I got to this point in my life
Scott Benner (5:07) Okay.
Rachel (5:08) Because it really baffled me for a while. (5:09) So, anyway, when I was, I don't know, 18 or something, I went to the doctor just for, like, a checkup and stuff. (5:16) And the doctor's like, oh, you're a sugar monster. (5:19) And I was like, well, yeah, because I have really bad sweet tooth. (5:23) He said, just, you know, eat dessert on the weekends or something.
Rachel (5:26) And I was like, okay. (5:27) So that's, like, the very first memory that Santa I was 18. (5:31) This is, like, right before I got married. (5:33) And he had told me that, and I just didn't think anything of it because I didn't know anything about diabetes. (5:38) And
Scott Benner (5:38) Rachel, pause.
Rachel (5:39) We had a sweet tooth.
Scott Benner (5:40) I have questions already.
Rachel (5:41) Questions? (5:42) Come. (5:42) Yes. (5:42) Come. (5:43) Not the questions.
Rachel (5:43) I'm ready.
Scott Benner (5:44) What would have prompted that? (5:45) Did you have a high a one c? (5:46) Were you overweight? (5:47) Was there something that got the doctor to say that?
Rachel (5:50) After I got my blood test done with
Scott Benner (5:52) them Wow.
Rachel (5:53) And he was reading the results, and that's what he said to me. (5:56) He didn't tell me what my a one c was, but I from that memory, I'm like, obviously, he saw something in my blood, obvious most likely my a one c
Scott Benner (6:04) Yeah.
Rachel (6:04) That my it was elevated. (6:06) Whether it was in range and elevated or not, I don't know. (6:09) But, like, for him not to be concerned and just to be, like, eat sugar on the weekends, I'm assuming it was higher elevated in range or something at that point.
Scott Benner (6:16) I see you're a sugar monster. (6:19) Just eat sugar on the weekends.
Rachel (6:20) Right. (6:21) And I'm like, the negligence, bro. (6:23) Come on. (6:24) Like, I okay. (6:25) I was 18.
Rachel (6:26) Okay. (6:26) Probably maybe 17, 18 probably. (6:28) Yep. (6:29) And I was, like, maybe a hundred and ten pounds
Scott Benner (6:32) Mhmm.
Rachel (6:32) And young. (6:34) And not to say, like, anybody with type two people can get type two at any weight, age, whatever. (6:38) That happens. (6:39) Okay? (6:40) But that's unlikely at that age and that weight and, like, sir, hello.
Scott Benner (6:46) And do you think because of your age and probably, you know, hadn't been through a whole lot by then that you just thought, oh, I do have a sweet tooth, and then just just wrote it off and kept going?
Rachel (6:57) A 100% because, like, that's how people like, my my person I babysat for, she's wonderful, but she always make used to make fun of me and call me cookie monster. (7:06) Because I really I, like, I really love sweets and stuff. (7:09) But
Scott Benner (7:09) listen, you're still babysitting. (7:11) You need help. (7:12) Was there a parent in the room with you when this happened?
Rachel (7:15) When I was 18? (7:16) I don't think so. (7:17) No.
Scott Benner (7:17) No? (7:18) Okay. (7:18) Alright. (7:18) Did you go home and tell anybody about this?
Rachel (7:21) No. (7:22) Probably not. (7:22) I don't know why you something I would've kept to myself because I would I don't I I never was proud of my sweet tooth, you know. (7:29) I always thought that that was not something to be proud of, really. (7:32) So I don't know why I would tell somebody that.
Rachel (7:34) I I thought the doctor thought I was eating too much sugar.
Scott Benner (7:36) My last question around this part, which by the way, this is fascinating. (7:39) You've started with such a nice thing is, did you wonder about it moving forward or did you put it out of your head?
Rachel (7:44) I had always kept it in mind, like, that he said I should watch my sugar intake. (7:50) So it's something like that I, you know, I had to keep in mind just because my I I was always scared to get become overweight and not be healthy and all that stuff. (8:00) So when he said that, I was like, oh, that's kinda scary. (8:02) So it's always been in my head. (8:03) Now that I've been, like, a super dieter or had, like, any eating disorders, but as I think any young girl is gonna have that in her mind, like, what she eats and that fear, I think.
Scott Benner (8:15) It's just such a strange thing to was it a guy or a woman, the doctor?
Rachel (8:18) It was on my end.
Scott Benner (8:19) Because I'm sitting I'm sitting here thinking, my wife and I have known each other thirty years. (8:26) I have an amazing relationship with my daughter. (8:29) And if I looked at either of them, it was like, somebody's a little sugar monster. (8:33) I mean, they put a pillow over my head while I was sleeping. (8:36) So that's a a really strange way to try to get it through to somebody.
Scott Benner (8:40) So anyway and and without context, because they could have said, you know, your a one c is elevated.
Rachel (8:46) Right. (8:46) Yeah. (8:47) And there was none of that explanation. (8:49) And I wish I had known the questions asked, but when you're 18, the doctor tells you you're a sugar monster. (8:54) You're not like, so what does that mean?
Rachel (8:55) Like, why are you why are you telling me that? (8:57) You know? (8:58) Exactly what do you think? (8:59) So you I didn't have the understanding to advocate for myself and be like, can you, tell me a little bit more about why you think that?
Scott Benner (9:04) I mean, you didn't do anything wrong. (9:06) I mean Yeah. (9:06) This is okay. (9:07) Alright. (9:07) What happens to you're 18, then what's your next touch what's your next touch point in the story?
Rachel (9:12) Yeah. (9:12) Okay. (9:13) So then I get married, and I get knocked up real quick because I love my husband. (9:18) And and, like, it was, like, my birthday, and they called me my midwife, they called me, and they're like, so you have gestational diabetes? (9:27) And I was like, no.
Rachel (9:28) That's rude. (9:29) No. (9:30) Thank you. (9:30) And I continued to eat things and stuff. (9:33) And then I go to my appointment, and they're like, this is serious.
Rachel (9:35) You need to take this seriously. (9:37) And I was like, oh gosh. (9:38) Okay. (9:40) And so, yeah, I ended up getting, and I'm saying this in air quotes because we know that's not true. (9:46) Gestational diabetes.
Rachel (9:47) I don't wanna say traumatic. (9:49) I think that's overused. (9:50) But it was really, really mentally tolling because I could not eat a lick of ketchup without my blood sugar shooting up. (9:59) I could only I would eat meat and vegetables, and my blood sugar would shoot up.
Scott Benner (10:03) Right.
Rachel (10:03) I could not eat anything without real every single day. (10:06) It was so infuriating, and I was so just upset and, like, torn every day because I tried so hard. (10:13) I exercised. (10:14) I ate so I just literally ate meat and vegetables. (10:17) And, like, I would wake up and get my fasting numbers would be off, and I would just start the day so bad.
Rachel (10:23) And I ended up because I was at a birth center, and my numbers had to be, like, perfect to be able to have a kid at a birth center. (10:31) They ended up kicking me out and which was really sad because I was like, I was, like, 19, and I didn't know anything. (10:38) And I was like, these people that I had been with my whole pregnancy had just kicked me out and I was like, what, thirty six, thirty seven weeks. (10:45) I don't know. (10:45) Thirty six, thirty five weeks, something like that.
Rachel (10:47) And so I was like, oh, I guess I'll just
Scott Benner (10:49) Wait. (10:49) Wait. (10:49) Hold on. (10:50) So you're 19 and you're a birth center. (10:52) You have to tell me what a birth center is.
Rachel (10:54) Birth center is kind of in between having a home birth and a hospital.
Scott Benner (10:58) Okay.
Rachel (10:58) I like to go a lot more natural, so I had intended to have a home birth. (11:02) But we were living with my in laws at the time, and they weren't comfortable. (11:05) So I was gonna go to a birth center instead. (11:07) So it's kind of all set up like a house and it's very like, think like a cottage feel. (11:12) So everything's very cozy and nice.
Rachel (11:14) Yeah. (11:14) Go ahead.
Scott Benner (11:15) Tell me about the day at 19. (11:17) Are you married at 19?
Rachel (11:18) Oh, yeah. (11:19) Yes. (11:19) Hot damn. (11:19) I'm I'm married really good. (11:21) Okay.
Rachel (11:21) Like, we've been married for, seven years. (11:23) We've been together for, eight years.
Scott Benner (11:24) You're 19. (11:24) I love him so much. (11:25) I I know. (11:26) You really do love that guy. (11:27) I'm gonna find out why later.
Scott Benner (11:27) I love him.
Rachel (11:28) Yeah. (11:28) Yeah. (11:28) He's amazing. (11:29) Incredible.
Scott Benner (11:30) You're 19. (11:31) You're married living with your in laws. (11:32) And you say, hey. (11:33) Can we set a baby pool up in here so I can give birth? (11:36) And I just wanna know what they said.
Rachel (11:37) Well, listen. (11:39) I'm not okay. (11:40) Maybe I shouldn't say this. (11:41) You said okay. (11:41) Never mind.
Rachel (11:42) Let's just say, yeah, they weren't comfortable with that because that's not how their culture is.
Scott Benner (11:46) Okay.
Rachel (11:47) And my culture, my mom has had well, she we I my family is blended, but we have 10 they have 10 kids in total. (11:55) So and all four of them, I think, she's had at home.
Scott Benner (11:59) So Is this just a thing that you grew up with. (12:01) You wanted to keep doing it. (12:02) It was different for them. (12:03) They were like, no. (12:04) Thank you.
Scott Benner (12:05) You somehow found a cottage to give birth in.
Rachel (12:08) And When you say it like that, sounds really, like, fairy tale like Disney.
Scott Benner (12:11) I mean, you used the word.
Rachel (12:13) I did.
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Rachel (14:55) Yes. (14:55) Yeah. (14:55) Well, because, yeah, if your blood sugar isn't well, you know, you've talked to Jenny. (14:59) If your blood sugar is in range, then it's not safe to you know, there's risks. (15:03) You need
Scott Benner (15:04) to have a bigger baby. (15:05) Right.
Rachel (15:05) All the things. (15:06) Yeah. (15:06) So for having that birth at a birth center, it's just not their liability is at risk. (15:12) Okay. (15:13) All that.
Rachel (15:13) Yep. (15:13) Whatever.
Scott Benner (15:14) I got it. (15:14) Keep going. (15:14) Thank you.
Rachel (15:16) Yes. (15:16) Of course. (15:16) Yeah. (15:16) So I end up having the baby at the hospital. (15:18) Everything's fine.
Rachel (15:19) She's healthy. (15:20) She's super awesome. (15:21) So I had, like, such a bad experience with the gestational that I just completely ignore everything. (15:26) They I think they did do that three after you have a baby, if you have gestational, do the they'll do, like, a three month I think it was a one c check. (15:33) They'll do an a one c check.
Rachel (15:34) They said it was fine
Scott Benner (15:35) Mhmm.
Rachel (15:36) At that point, and then I just completely ignored it because it was so not fun. (15:40) And then I got pregnant again with my son. (15:45) I totally expected to have the gestational. (15:48) And I this is funny. (15:49) I remember, like, walking into the doctor's office, getting a blood test done, or having bringing her my fasting, I think it was.
Rachel (15:57) And she was like, oh my gosh. (15:58) You're sick. (15:59) And I was like, yeah. (16:00) I know. (16:01) Isn't that great?
Rachel (16:02) I totally expected this. (16:03) And I was, like, actually psychotic on and she finally looked at me like I was crazy because I was just there so happy to be pregnant. (16:09) And she's like, you're sick. (16:10) And I'm like, isn't it great? (16:11) But yeah.
Rachel (16:13) So, anyway, that happens. (16:16) And so I know exactly what to expect, exactly what I need to do. (16:19) I put off treating it because, basically, you treat gestational like a type two, you know, exercise, eating well. (16:25) So I kinda put it off because, like, I swear, when I was eating with my first one, it was just meat and veggies. (16:31) It was so hard.
Rachel (16:32) I'm just not cool like that. (16:33) Well, whoever the people who do that, they're really cool, but it was really hard. (16:36) Okay. (16:36) When I'm when you're young, you like you like eating things, and I you know? (16:41) Mhmm.
Rachel (16:41) I put it off for a while, but I found my midwife here and in Arizona because We used to live in Washington,
Scott Benner (16:48) so we
Rachel (16:48) live in Arizona now. (16:49) And she was really great. (16:50) She actually has type two, and so she was willing to help me through the gestational. (16:56) And she was, like, so wonderful. (16:57) She taught me so much and helped me so much more than that other place had ever in at all.
Rachel (17:03) It was really fantastic experience. (17:05) So I actually got to do a home birth with him. (17:07) And then, of course, again, like I said, I was really this whole experience, being pregnant and and having gestational supposedly, was really difficult. (17:17) And so I just, like, put off put off getting tested, and I never got tested. (17:22) And I actually accidentally got pregnant again, like, nine months later, whoopsies, with my third my third kid.
Rachel (17:32) And, of course, expected the gestational, did the whole thing. (17:36) It was the toughest one yet. (17:37) I had to exercise until I literally the, like, the day before I popped, I was exercising every single day. (17:45) No breaks because it was that hard to keep my blood sugar under control
Scott Benner (17:49) Okay.
Rachel (17:49) Just to even keep it somewhat in range, like having that fasting or meals was vital. (17:55) So I exercised every single day. (17:57) I ate only meat and vegetables and, like, no carbs whatsoever. (18:01) Absolutely done.
Scott Benner (18:01) How do you measure blood sugar? (18:03) Do like, I mean, the first time, they must give you a meter. (18:06) Right? (18:06) But does the second time get you to a CGM or the third time?
Rachel (18:09) Well, I think because it even though it was only six years ago, a lot of things have changed in the medical area for CGMs and devices and things like that. (18:20) Yeah. (18:20) So when I had my first one, it was still a little old school, I think, and it was all finger pokes, and that was it. (18:27) So which is kind of refreshing because I wonder if I had CGM. (18:30) Like, they could have seen that I was doing a lot better because all they see is those spikes and the fasting, and, like, they didn't see anything in between, which I think could have shown a lot better.
Scott Benner (18:38) Might have helped something. (18:39) Yeah.
Rachel (18:39) Probably. (18:41) That's fine. (18:41) Then the third one, it was closer to the end. (18:43) I got a Libre, and that was the best thing in the entire world. (18:47) It helped so so much.
Rachel (18:49) Sure. (18:49) It was incredible. (18:51) And I was so spoiled. (18:52) I was like, if I ever have to have any more babies, I'm getting CGM. (18:56) And that was when I thought I still had whatever type I don't know.
Rachel (19:01) Whatever that was.
Scott Benner (19:01) What did you think by then? (19:03) Like, you're three pregnancies into this. (19:04) It's happened to you each time. (19:06) Right? (19:06) In between, you don't know what's happening because you're kinda not looking on purpose.
Scott Benner (19:09) Also Yeah. (19:10) Speaking of kinda not looking on purpose, does that third baby, like what do you mean you got pregnant by mistake? (19:14) What does that mean?
Rachel (19:16) Well, it means I really love my husband, Scott. (19:18) K. (19:19) It really I just love him so much. (19:21) Well, actually so I hadn't hadn't got my period back yet, and and you ovulate, you know, before you have your period. (19:28) And I'm a say it was the Lord.
Rachel (19:30) The Lord just
Scott Benner (19:31) Rachel, when he makes that face, you can just kinda push with your hands, you know, just
Rachel (19:37) that's not fun. (19:38) It's more fun, you know. (19:39) Anyway, I'm okay. (19:41) Scott, you're gonna really love this. (19:43) I'm pregnant again.
Scott Benner (19:44) Of course, you are.
Rachel (19:46) I'm pregnant right now as we speak.
Scott Benner (19:48) How pregnant are you?
Rachel (19:50) Only six weeks, but I did get the bible, pregnancy with type one d diabetes by Ginger Viera and Jennifer c Smith. (19:57) I have it right next to me.
Scott Benner (19:58) Awesome.
Rachel (19:59) So we're reading that. (20:01) Thank you, Jenny. (20:02) If you're listening, which you're probably not, but thank you. (20:04) Hey. (20:04) Love
Scott Benner (20:04) you. (20:04) She listens sometimes. (20:06) Alright. (20:06) Hold on a second. (20:07) So this during the third pregnancy, are you seeing numbers that are different than before, or are they pretty consistent with the other pregnancies?
Rachel (20:16) Oh, no. (20:16) It I think it was I don't wanna say it was different, but I was working a lot harder.
Scott Benner (20:25) Okay.
Rachel (20:25) I had to work a lot harder. (20:27) And I had the CGM, and that yes. (20:30) You know, it's, incredible device, so that helped so much. (20:34) It's funny. (20:34) My midwife, she was really cool.
Rachel (20:35) She was like, hey. (20:36) Wake up. (20:36) I'll set your alarm for, like, 3AM. (20:38) Take those good numbers. (20:40) If there's fasting at 3AM and it's good number, take that shit.
Rachel (20:43) Because, you know, I really wanted a home birth, and you have to be at a certain in a certain range.
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Rachel (21:53) I thought I was just a person that got gestational diabetes k. (21:57) Because I didn't wanna look in between. (22:00) I know I needed to look in between, but, honestly, the diabetes during pregnancy was so stressful and so difficult. (22:06) As we know, we know why now. (22:08) Spike was closing my eyes to it and just Yeah.
Rachel (22:10) I'm just the person that gets gestational blah blah blah blah blah, you know, being stupid, of course.
Scott Benner (22:14) You believe there was a bigger issue, but you didn't have the the nerve to look into it.
Rachel (22:18) Yeah. (22:19) A 100%. (22:19) Okay. (22:20) Yeah. (22:20) That's you're right.
Scott Benner (22:21) So then what's the issue? (22:22) I mean, listen. (22:23) Yeah. (22:23) I'm not calling you out. (22:24) You're telling a good story.
Scott Benner (22:25) We all hear it. (22:26) Yeah. (22:26) What's the expectation that you would find if you looked?
Rachel (22:30) Crap.
Scott Benner (22:33) You just thought you'd get bad news?
Rachel (22:35) I thought I would get bad news. (22:36) Yeah.
Scott Benner (22:36) You didn't Google it or ask a friend or anything?
Rachel (22:41) No. (22:42) Okay. (22:43) I knew. (22:43) I knew, and I just didn't wanna know.
Scott Benner (22:45) Okay.
Rachel (22:45) You
Scott Benner (22:45) know? (22:46) Alright. (22:46) I hear you. (22:46) Okay. (22:47) I'm sorry.
Scott Benner (22:47) Go ahead. (22:48) How does the third birth go?
Rachel (22:51) So everything went great. (22:52) Beautifully perfect. (22:54) Yeah. (22:54) It was great. (22:55) So go no.
Rachel (22:56) So that was my second home birth. (22:58) It was wonderful. (22:59) I actually was kinda fun, but that's besides the point.
Scott Benner (23:03) Last question. (23:03) Do you buy your own pool because you figure, gotta stop renting these? (23:07) I'm gonna be using this a lot?
Rachel (23:08) Honestly, Scott, I just lay down like a cow and just let baby come out.
Scott Benner (23:12) Wait. (23:13) On your hands and knees?
Rachel (23:14) No. (23:15) Just lay down, like, on my I just, like, get my Squishmallows, put a pillow over my head, and have a baby.
Scott Benner (23:20) I have to tell you, there's there's a type one who's also a doula who I must have, like, must have followed me on Instagram at some point. (23:29) And I I liked a couple of her posts and now I get a lot of them. (23:32) And you can and you can it's not really handy for me because I I will never have a baby, and, I think Kelly is, is pretty past that.
Rachel (23:41) I was gonna say, Kelly's probably a little bit
Scott Benner (23:44) Yeah.
Rachel (23:44) Done with that.
Scott Benner (23:45) She's a little too ripe going back to the Bulls for Banana episode. (23:48) And so she's got little brown spots on her now. (23:50) She can't have any more babies.
Rachel (23:51) I don't I hope she doesn't she doesn't listen to these. (23:52) Right? (23:53) You know? (23:53) She's not gonna listen
Scott Benner (23:54) I mean, I don't even think she knows I do this. (23:57) I get her in my feed sometimes. (23:59) Right? (23:59) And, basically, I only have a I have an Instagram feed of, like, people who follow me and people with diabetes. (24:05) Like, I don't, like, pretty much use Instagram for anything else.
Scott Benner (24:08) I I've learned through this that you can have a baby in a number of different positions that I did not expect. (24:13) You can. (24:14) Yeah. (24:15) Like, some I see people on their hands and knees. (24:17) I see people, like, half standing in a chair, like, squatting.
Scott Benner (24:21) There's all kinds of is it just whatever's comfortable for you? (24:24) Like, what puts you in the best comfort position, you think?
Rachel (24:27) For me, yeah. (24:27) But some people it just depends on the baby too. (24:30) Like, what's what's the baby up to? (24:31) If they need a little bit of help, then a a different position might help the baby come out.
Scott Benner (24:36) Little gravity? (24:37) Maybe throw some gravity on the whole thing?
Rachel (24:39) Exactly. (24:40) Yeah. (24:40) Okay. (24:40) That's right. (24:41) And it also, like, the biggest thing too is being relaxed.
Rachel (24:44) And I know that's hard to
Scott Benner (24:45) It's hard to relax.
Rachel (24:46) Imagine when you're in labor. (24:48) But, yeah, the biggest thing is being relaxed because, that's how my mom my mom taught me how to give birth. (24:53) So it's it's I know it's called it's kinda funny. (24:55) It's called the Bradley method, but, basically, you just start relaxing your body head to toe, and that's kinda what you're thinking about as you're going through labor. (25:02) You're just, like, going up your body.
Rachel (25:04) Like, are my toes relaxed? (25:05) Are my eyebrows relaxed? (25:06) Is my my arms, my fingers, everything relaxed? (25:09) Yeah. (25:09) And that just gets the baby right out.
Rachel (25:10) Just lad right out.
Scott Benner (25:11) Nice. (25:12) Kinda like an awake meditation almost.
Rachel (25:14) Uh-huh. (25:14) It's probably I haven't looked into it much, but it sounds similar to hypnobirthing. (25:18) I I imagine that's what it's like. (25:19) You kinda just, like, meditating almost and and just, like yeah. (25:23) It's it's cool.
Rachel (25:24) I actually almost fell asleep at the end of my last one. (25:26) I was about to fall asleep, and then the midwife was like, hey. (25:28) You was about to come out. (25:29) Was like, dang it. (25:29) I was about to fall asleep, bro.
Scott Benner (25:31) That would be a baller move to fall asleep like that. (25:34) Just be like, I'll just nappy through this.
Rachel (25:36) Yeah. (25:36) Right? (25:37) Yeah. (25:37) It's hard work.
Scott Benner (25:38) I feel like a king when I fall asleep during, like, a root canal or something like that. (25:42) I'm like, I'm so unbothered by this. (25:44) I'm gonna take a nap.
Rachel (25:45) Yeah. (25:45) That's incredible. (25:47) Love that for you.
Scott Benner (25:48) Thank you. (25:48) How big were the babies? (25:49) Like, were they reasonably sized? (25:51) Were they larger than you were hoping?
Rachel (25:53) This might not be interesting to you, but I think it's kinda interesting.
Scott Benner (25:56) Mhmm.
Rachel (25:56) My first one, she so I didn't start, oh, I didn't know until I was in the third trimester that I had, in air quotes again, gestational. (26:04) So she was six pounds six ounces. (26:07) And then my second, I started taking care of that a little sooner, probably more towards the middle of the second trimester, maybe the second trimester ish. (26:14) And he was, like, six pounds three ounces maybe. (26:18) But this last one, which is really interesting because I worked my butt off, like I said, literally every day, he was five pounds.
Scott Benner (26:27) Are these full term, all of them?
Rachel (26:29) Full term. (26:30) Well, I have my babies a little early. (26:32) I cook them fast about thirty seven weeks. (26:34) My my longest one was thirty eight weeks. (26:36) So they just come right out.
Rachel (26:37) Yeah. (26:37) They just come on right out.
Scott Benner (26:38) But they come out when Jesus wants them. (26:39) It's not like you you're not getting, what's the word? (26:42) Where they make you go sooner.
Rachel (26:44) No. (26:44) No. (26:45) No. (26:45) I don't I never have gotten induced.
Scott Benner (26:46) Yeah. (26:46) Okay. (26:47) Yeah.
Rachel (26:47) They just my water broke in this morning.
Scott Benner (26:49) How about your did your mom have small kids?
Rachel (26:52) Not super big. (26:53) I think, like, her biggest one probably was eight pounds or something.
Scott Benner (26:56) But but larger than yours, though.
Rachel (26:59) Yeah. (26:59) Interesting. (27:00) But she's a bigger woman. (27:01) She's she's, like, decently tall.
Scott Benner (27:04) So Okay. (27:04) Alright. (27:05) I hear it. (27:05) Do you know how big your husband was when he came out?
Rachel (27:08) I don't know, but my husband is kind he's, like, five nine. (27:14) Okay. (27:15) A little on the shorter side. (27:16) Okay.
Scott Benner (27:16) Alright. (27:17) This is interesting. (27:17) Okay. (27:18) So third one zips out. (27:21) Is this when you talk yourself into checking your blood sugar and talking to a doctor again?
Rachel (27:25) Yes. (27:25) Because I knew it was yeah. (27:27) I knew I needed to take care it. (27:29) It was it was very obvious, especially because, you know, after if you have gestational diabetes, after you give birth, your blood sugar should go right back to normal essentially a couple hours after at the very most. (27:40) Yeah.
Rachel (27:40) Maybe, I think, maybe a week, but I think that's I'm not sure about that. (27:44) Don't quote me. (27:45) And I had a well, again, a reminder, labor is really hard work, but I ate an entire chicken bake in one sitting, and that my blood sugar was funny. (27:56) My alarm, like, thirty minutes later, was like, and I was like, oh, shoot. (28:01) That's not a good sign.
Rachel (28:02) It was, like, 300 or 200 or something. (28:04) And I was like, we'll just ignore that. (28:07) Let's just turn that off. (28:08) We don't need to worry about that right now. (28:10) I'm taking care of a baby.
Scott Benner (28:12) What pushed you to do it, though? (28:14) Like, what pushed you to go ask?
Rachel (28:16) Oh, I don't know. (28:17) I just knew I needed to. (28:18) It was just it was just like it'd been, like you said, three times, and I just knew my blood sugar wasn't getting better after the birth. (28:26) Like, I think I checked it, a week or two after as well, and it was still elevated. (28:30) So I just knew I needed to.
Scott Benner (28:32) Okay. (28:33) And you're today, you're 26 years old? (28:36) Yeah. (28:37) Okay. (28:37) So you've had three kids, one on the way.
Scott Benner (28:41) By the time you're 27, you'll have had four kids.
Rachel (28:44) Yes, sir.
Scott Benner (28:45) We done, That's pretty I mean, listen. (28:48) It's very efficient.
Rachel (28:50) Thank you. (28:50) I have tried. (28:51) Like, I was like, sir, we need to get on this. (28:54) He had me take, like, a three year break between the first two, and I was like, this is I don't know about this man.
Scott Benner (28:58) He's probably trying to save money. (28:59) Don't you think?
Rachel (29:00) Yeah. (29:01) I he's he's way smarter than me. (29:03) He's, like, actually financially responsible and, like
Scott Benner (29:05) Maybe we ought to try to figure out how to pay for these kids.
Rachel (29:08) He that is a good point. (29:11) Okay? (29:12) Listen, the biological clock is a real thing. (29:15) And also, I'm a diabetic, so I need to get these babies out because it ain't gonna get easier.
Scott Benner (29:19) How many more how many more do we need?
Rachel (29:21) Okay. (29:21) Listen, honestly, if if we have any more, my husband might go get the milk one day and not come back. (29:26) So I don't he's threatening to get snipped.
Scott Benner (29:29) So four. (29:30) Four is our number.
Rachel (29:31) That's what he says.
Scott Benner (29:33) Okay.
Rachel (29:33) I'm I'm just saying I'm leaving my heart open for if the Lord wants to bless us. (29:38) No. (29:39) Okay. (29:40) He's maybe not leaving his self open.
Scott Benner (29:42) No. (29:42) No. (29:42) It sounds it sounds like he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna take a rock and smash his penis is what it sounds like he's gonna do. (29:49) My accent. (29:50) He might
Rachel (29:51) he's like, I don't need this anymore.
Scott Benner (29:52) So enough of this. (29:55) You go to a doctor? (29:55) Do you go to an urgent care? (29:57) How do you how do you get your whole thing going?
Rachel (29:59) Oh, Scott. (30:00) I hate this. (30:01) This is the worst part of the story because it drives me insane. (30:04) I wanna beat my head against the wall. (30:05) Okay.
Rachel (30:06) So very classic type two story. (30:08) This is where the classic part comes in. (30:09) Okay. (30:10) Three months postpartum, I go to the doctor and be like, sir, I have problems. (30:14) Please test my body.
Rachel (30:15) And they do testing, and they're like, yeah. (30:18) Stuff is elevated. (30:19) And I was like, okay. (30:20) I'll try and eat better, exercise better, blah blah blah blah blah. (30:23) So I do that.
Rachel (30:24) Things look a little bit better. (30:27) As I think I went in at five point eight maybe. (30:29) Yeah. (30:30) And then I think I got it I think I might have got it down a teensy bit, so I thought, okay. (30:34) Maybe this is working.
Rachel (30:36) And then at the holidays, it went all to poop. (30:40) This is when I believe my pancreas said, I'm not doing this anymore. (30:44) I'm done with you. (30:45) Holidays, absolute poop. (30:47) And I went into the doctor, like, twice in that time being like, I don't understand what's going on.
Rachel (30:52) I do not eat McDonald's every day. (30:53) I don't sit on my butt all day long. (30:55) I exercise. (30:56) I eat well. (30:56) I just don't understand.
Rachel (30:57) Like, I'm trying so hard to take care of myself, and I don't get this. (31:01) And so I'm, like, literally crying because my surely, blood sugar is insane and my hormones are going crazy. (31:07) And so they put me oh, this makes me so bad. (31:10) Instead of just testing my secret antibodies like a normal person should, like a doctor should immediately do, they give me metformin.
Scott Benner (31:19) Okay.
Rachel (31:19) So annoyed. (31:20) Well It's like, bro.
Scott Benner (31:21) Don't you think that makes sense though for what they were saying
Rachel (31:23) or no? (31:24) No. (31:25) Because if somebody is fairly young listen. (31:29) They had also tested my blood. (31:30) My thyroid was a little off.
Rachel (31:32) My vitamin d was a little off. (31:33) Mhmm. (31:33) My blood sugars were insane. (31:35) I'm young. (31:35) I'm healthy.
Rachel (31:36) Generally, besides that, I have a good weight. (31:38) Scott, you could have looked at me and told me I had diabetes. (31:42) You you are not I know you're not a doctor, but you could have looked at me. (31:46) A person that has had diabetes for a single year, not just myself, ten months, I could have looked at me and I could have said you you have diabetes.
Scott Benner (31:53) Have diabetes. (31:54) Bit of hindsight, you can see what they didn't see.
Rachel (31:56) And I'm not a doctor. (31:58) Like, this is what drives me. (31:59) So every podcast you talk about this, I'm like, you are so right because why can somebody who's had diabetes for, like, two seconds see type one diabetes and a doctor who's been doing doctor stuff for a while not see it? (32:10) And it's, like, a common disease.
Scott Benner (32:12) Is this the same doctor that said you what did he say about the the sugar?
Rachel (32:16) The sugar monster. (32:17) No. (32:17) That was
Scott Benner (32:18) That's not the sugar is it the same area?
Rachel (32:20) Like No. (32:21) I'm in Arizona. (32:21) That was in Washington.
Scott Benner (32:22) Okay. (32:23) So there was a it's not like you're in the same place. (32:26) No. (32:26) Okay. (32:27) You are you paying for your health care with, like, I don't know.
Scott Benner (32:29) Are you trading for vegetables? (32:31) Do you like, how are you is it a real is it a hospital?
Rachel (32:34) This is a real doctor in my town. (32:36) We live in a small town, so I don't know if that makes that shouldn't matter. (32:40) But
Scott Benner (32:40) Yeah. (32:40) You wouldn't think. (32:41) Well, you would hope, I guess.
Rachel (32:42) Yeah. (32:43) You would hope. (32:43) But yeah. (32:44) So it just really frustrates me because there's all these signs. (32:47) And if they had just tested my antibodies, it's not that hard to test your you take some blood.
Rachel (32:53) That's it. (32:54) It's not that. (32:54) And I even asked for it, and they did it. (32:57) And they never got the results back to me.
Scott Benner (32:59) Where did you wait. (33:00) Wait. (33:01) Wait. (33:01) Where did you find out that that was the thing you could ask for? (33:03) Did you finally, go to the Internet?
Rachel (33:06) In this process, because my doctor was saying that we were when I had first got in, we were trying to figure out what I had, if I had type two or not or whatever. (33:17) I wanted to find a little bit of support, so I went on Facebook and I was like, hey. (33:20) Any other moms with diabetes in this area? (33:23) And so there was actually several moms who had type one, and they thankfully welcomed me into their arms. (33:29) We had, like, a little Facebook chat.
Rachel (33:31) And one of the moms, she's, I I don't know, probably 30, and she got diagnosed, I think it was five or six years ago. (33:38) And, also, they thought she had type two. (33:41) Mhmm. (33:41) And she's like, hey, girl. (33:43) You should just get your antibodies tested and get this, Scott.
Rachel (33:45) You know what I said to her? (33:47) I said, wouldn't I be suffering more if I had type one diabetes?
Scott Benner (33:51) She didn't know about Lada.
Rachel (33:54) Probably not. (33:55) Well, she I mean, I don't know if she knew about because she had it. (33:58) So
Scott Benner (33:59) Yeah. (33:59) I mean, maybe. (34:00) Who knows? (34:01) Right? (34:01) Yeah.
Scott Benner (34:01) And so why did you think that?
Rachel (34:02) Don't
Scott Benner (34:03) know. (34:03) What was your back then before you knew feeling about, like, oh, no. (34:07) If I had type one, I'd be somehow worse off?
Rachel (34:10) Well, it's that stigma. (34:11) Like, it's kids. (34:11) It's always kids that get type one. (34:13) You never hear about adults. (34:15) And so I and they're, like, on their deathbed, and they're, like, sick and, you know, and
Scott Benner (34:20) That's how they get diagnosed.
Rachel (34:22) Right. (34:22) Exactly. (34:23) And I So
Scott Benner (34:23) that you knew about.
Rachel (34:24) Leading up to it because Latta is so slow, and I think that's what I've had this whole time, obviously, even when I was 18. (34:30) I think that was in the first or second stage. (34:33) So it's just been slowly going. (34:34) And, you know, probably each pregnancy, my pancreas has been like, help me. (34:38) You know?
Rachel (34:40) And, yeah, here I just died. (34:42) And so I was but I was doing okay. (34:44) I was feeling fine until they put me on the metformin. (34:47) And the metformin, since it's meant for type two, it supposedly can really mess up a type one, and it messed me up so bad. (34:53) I was so, so sick.
Rachel (34:55) Like, I had lost I was, like, a hundred and twenty five, and I was down to a hundred pounds when I was admitted. (35:01) And I could barely move. (35:03) I could barely get up every day. (35:05) I could I was so tired.
Scott Benner (35:07) I'll stop you there, Ray. (35:08) I don't think that's the metformin. (35:09) I think that's the your pancreas doing less and less work because there are there are plenty of type ones that take metformin for insulin resistance. (35:17) So there are some people that take metformin prophylactically for reasons that I don't even know are are real. (35:23) I'm not sure if they're even real or not.
Scott Benner (35:24) So that's a fairly well tolerated drug. (35:27) I think you were just slipping further and further closer and closer to probably you know, you're probably working your way very slowly towards DKA is what I would expect.
Rachel (35:36) I hear you on that. (35:37) Yeah. (35:37) And my theory is just that since I've heard that metformin can mess up a type one, my theory is that before I I swear, before I got in that metformin, I felt okay. (35:47) Like, I was fine. (35:48) And then, like, immediately when I got on it is when I started feeling really, really sick, and, like, I couldn't eat in that
Scott Benner (35:55) I was gonna say, did did it mess with your stomach and you weren't able to eat?
Rachel (35:59) Yeah. (35:59) I couldn't eat, and it was refreshing because, like, all I could tolerate was, like, toast. (36:02) And I was like, this is not helping me with my diabetes because all I could eat is toast or nothing.
Scott Benner (36:07) Got it. (36:08) I take that back then. (36:09) Then that makes more that makes sense that way. (36:11) I misunderstood you, I guess, thing. (36:12) But go ahead.
Rachel (36:13) And you're probably right. (36:14) You're probably I'm sure I think I've heard some type ones use it, so maybe it's different people, but I think it just messed with me. (36:21) Maybe you're right. (36:21) So sorry. (36:21) I just get really passionate about it because No.
Rachel (36:24) It's fine. (36:24) Passionate about diabetes. (36:26) That's why I asked to do the interview with you when you said there was an opening because I just love to talk about diabetes. (36:32) I love to help like, if I can help people, I wanna help them. (36:35) Like, even when I got pregnant the first time after I had my daughter, I didn't feel like I'd gotten the help I needed.
Rachel (36:40) I've always had in mind someday that I would get involved helping moms with type with type one or I was gestational or whatever. (36:49) Just diabetes. (36:50) Like, wanna help other people with diabetes because I didn't feel like I got the help.
Scott Benner (36:54) I wanna tell you. (36:54) I think in general, you seem passionate about a lot of different things.
Rachel (36:58) Oh, like what? (36:58) Like my husband?
Scott Benner (36:59) About being a mom, about your your husband. (37:01) You said more nice things about your husband in the last, forty five minutes than my wife said about me in my entire life. (37:06) I mean, babies, being a mom. (37:08) Right?
Rachel (37:09) Like I love you.
Scott Benner (37:10) Yeah. (37:10) You seem you seem, like, aggressively passionate about a number of different things.
Rachel (37:13) You know, when you say the word aggressively passionate, that doesn't give me good energy, but I know I think you have good energy behind it, so I'll take it.
Scott Benner (37:19) No. (37:20) I mean it that way. (37:20) I mean, like, you just feel, like, you really feel, like, positive.
Rachel (37:24) Yeah. (37:24) So I'm very so, yeah, I am very passionate about that. (37:26) I I really I love my family. (37:28) I love my kids. (37:29) I love being a mother.
Rachel (37:30) I I go to bed every night. (37:32) Thank god that I have these beautiful kids. (37:34) And I I'm I know. (37:36) Sorry. (37:36) It's not super religious podcast or anything like that, but I do feel like the lord blessed me in not getting that type one right away, like, having that lad that I was able to have these three beautiful kids first Yeah.
Rachel (37:46) And have the home birth and everything. (37:48) And here we are now with this fourth one, and this is gonna be a whole new adventure. (37:52) It's gonna be hard, but it's gonna if I am gonna help people in the future, this is gonna really add to that experience too and be able to help more moms. (37:59) Like, I love what Jenny does. (38:01) I feel like she's really an inspiration, and you're an inspiration too.
Rachel (38:03) And I just you guys that's why I love the podcast because it's, what I wanna do some days is help people. (38:10) I love it. (38:10) He's so fantastic.
Scott Benner (38:11) You don't have to apologize for telling me about your religion. (38:14) That's Okay. (38:15) Yeah. (38:15) I don't I I listen. (38:16) I interviewed Noah Gray recently.
Scott Benner (38:18) He talked about it every eighteen seconds. (38:21) I thought it was him sharing his story. (38:24) I had the same thing I think think about you or anybody else. (38:26) I don't I have I ever come across in the podcast, like, I didn't want somebody to talk about their religion?
Rachel (38:30) No. (38:31) I just don't wanna I just wanna make sure that you're comfortable to post this and it's not gonna step on advice to us.
Scott Benner (38:37) Yeah. (38:37) No. (38:37) I'm comfortable with it. (38:38) I've said in the past, and I know you haven't been listening that long. (38:41) Maybe you haven't gotten to it yet.
Scott Benner (38:43) Is that I I used to be like, a number of years ago, I was perplexed by how many deeply religious people like the podcast because I don't I'm not a religious person. (38:53) I'm outwardly honest about that. (38:56) I always just wondered, like, what is the vibe about like, because I'm like, something about the podcast is attractive to people who have, like, really, like, firmly held religious beliefs. (39:07) I've always been, like, not confused by it. (39:09) I think it's lovely.
Scott Benner (39:09) I just I don't I don't understand it.
Rachel (39:12) That's really interesting.
Scott Benner (39:13) Yeah. (39:13) I thought you'd be I thought they wouldn't like me is what I was saying.
Rachel (39:16) I think you're great. (39:17) You're really funny, and it's it's fantastic. (39:20) I love listening to you, and you're just here to help people and tell your experiences, and I think I think it's great.
Scott Benner (39:24) I stopped wondering about it a while ago.
Rachel (39:26) Oh, okay. (39:27) Well, never mind. (39:27) I won't talk about it anymore. (39:28) Thanks.
Scott Benner (39:28) Yeah. (39:28) Also, I'm huge in the Mormon community. (39:30) Hey, Mormons. (39:31) What's up?
Rachel (39:31) Oh, interesting. (39:32) LGS.
Scott Benner (39:32) What's going on? (39:34) They love me out there.
Rachel (39:35) Love that.
Scott Benner (39:35) And I take Why why they won't have me out for a talk? (39:37) I don't know. (39:38) I've never been approached. (39:39) Actually, that's not fair. (39:40) There I now know that there's somebody listening right now who's like, I've asked you to come out here and speak.
Rachel (39:44) Oh, no. (39:45) You're gonna get emails now. (39:46) Your inbox is filling up as we speak.
Scott Benner (39:48) What I meant was, you put an event together and then I come to it. (39:52) Not that I have to come and make the event. (39:53) I don't have that kind of juice. (39:54) You know what I mean?
Rachel (39:55) Yeah. (39:56) Yeah. (39:56) It's
Scott Benner (39:56) not fair. (39:57) I actually made the, I made the cruise happen. (40:00) I guess I could maybe I don't have that kind I don't have that kind of energy maybe is what we're talking about. (40:03) I don't have infrastructure is what I don't have, Rachel. (40:06) If there was a
Rachel (40:06) Oh, look at a cruise is pretty cool. (40:08) Like, that's That was a little bit different.
Scott Benner (40:10) But I didn't do the grunt work on that. (40:12) Somebody else did. (40:13) Suzanne did that. (40:15) Like, I guess if if somebody could, like, set up a bunch of, like, in person meetings, I'd show up and do a business. (40:20) Like, I'd do a thing.
Scott Benner (40:21) I have business So to talk.
Rachel (40:22) What you need is an unpaid intern to do all the legwork.
Scott Benner (40:25) Hey. (40:26) That's what
Rachel (40:26) I'm hearing.
Scott Benner (40:26) Actually, now the people who are listening to help with the Facebook group and other stuff are laughing. (40:30) Like, I am an unpaid intern. (40:32) Thanks. (40:33) No. (40:33) I just I think I'm at I'm at the edge of my ability to add more stuff to my day.
Rachel (40:39) Oh, yeah. (40:40) I can't imagine how busy you are. (40:41) Yeah.
Scott Benner (40:41) I think I could do other stuff if I wasn't doing a lot of the back end stuff. (40:45) But I don't think that a podcast about type one diabetes is ever gonna get to the size where it supports a staff of paid people. (40:54) You know what I mean? (40:55) Like, the the editor is is an expense, but I can swing that. (40:59) But I if you if you told me, like, I had to hire Rachel and, like, give her, you know, benefits and so I'd be like, I don't make that kind of money.
Scott Benner (41:06) So Mm-mm. (41:07) Yeah. (41:08) It's alright. (41:08) It's okay.
Rachel (41:09) The benefits that we would get from you is, like, Juicebox from Costco.
Scott Benner (41:13) Yeah. (41:13) But if you if you worked for me, you'd ex also expect medical benefits and and other stuff like that.
Rachel (41:19) Honestly, Apple juice should be a medical benefit at this point.
Scott Benner (41:22) It should be. (41:23) Right? (41:24) I've made that argument a couple of times, like, accountants and people like that. (41:28) I'm like, why can't we write off, like, our cell phones? (41:30) And, like and then I think I finally have done that.
Scott Benner (41:32) I think my I think I finally found somebody who was like, look. (41:34) That's a medical device. (41:35) I was like, yeah. (41:36) Right on. (41:36) Like, you just write off the cost of it, which is to say it's really the truth is is you don't really save much.
Scott Benner (41:43) But, you know, I think stuff like that counts. (41:45) Like, if the CGM is on there and the pump's on there, then there's an argument to be made that I I wouldn't need a phone if it wasn't for this. (41:52) So Mhmm. (41:53) I don't know. (41:54) I'm beginning of the tax code now, which is another thing I don't know anything about.
Scott Benner (41:57) Okay. (41:57) So where are we at? (41:59) Baby metformin? (42:01) I
Rachel (42:02) was just yeah. (42:04) So oh, go ahead.
Scott Benner (42:05) Wait. (42:05) When do you figure out it's not type two?
Rachel (42:08) Ugh. (42:09) Okay. (42:09) Anyway, so, basically, I'm struggling a bunch. (42:13) I can't even get up from a diaper change without using all my mental willpower. (42:17) So I go back to the doctor and I say, I need to get off of this medication because this is making me really, really sick.
Rachel (42:23) Because I thought this whole time I was on it for three weeks, I think. (42:25) I thought the whole time it was the medication that was making me that sick. (42:28) So I'm apparently really dumb. (42:30) And so they had me come in. (42:33) I think he did a blood test, but then I go home.
Rachel (42:36) And the next day, he calls me, and he's like, you need to go to the hospital. (42:38) I think you're in DKA. (42:40) And I was like, okay. (42:41) And he's like, that's where your blood is turning acidic. (42:43) And I'm like, oh, okay.
Rachel (42:45) That sounds scary. (42:47) So I go to the hospital, and so I get admitted and and all that fun stuff like that. (42:53) And the the whole time too, nobody wanted to test me for type one diabetes. (42:57) The whole time that I was, like, thinking, well, I think I just got diagnosed with type two, and they're like, okay. (43:02) Just accepting that.
Rachel (43:03) So it's all over my charts too, and I'm like, that's dumb. (43:06) But, yeah, they the whole time, they're like, giving me an insulin drip. (43:10) They think I'm type two so. (43:12) And went to the ICU. (43:14) Is there, like, overnight and then went to a regular room.
Rachel (43:18) And they were going to discharge me thinking again as a type two, only having me take home Lantus. (43:27) The doctor wanted the nurse how to show me wanted the nurse to show me how to use, a syringe to do it. (43:33) And she's like, hey. (43:34) I'm not really comfortable with this. (43:36) I feel like you need to see the diabetic educator.
Rachel (43:39) And the doctor was just gonna discharge me. (43:41) And but the nurse is like, no. (43:43) I think you really need to see the diabetic educator and stuff. (43:45) So she actually the nurse, I'm gonna say the nurse saved my life, basically, and and it helped me not get back into the hospital again by making sure I saw a diabetic educator and got that help from her. (43:57) So I stayed for, like, a whole another day to wait to see the diabetic educator.
Rachel (44:01) Mhmm. (44:02) And they brought her in. (44:03) She talked to me for, like, an hour and a half just like this lady was incredible. (44:08) Like, to so much information. (44:09) Just information dumped everything.
Rachel (44:11) And she looked at me, and she was like, you are ninety nine percent a type one diabetic. (44:17) I can almost guarantee it. (44:19) Like, if you're type two, I would be very surprised. (44:21) There's a small chance, but she looked at me and she's like, you're type one. (44:24) Yeah.
Rachel (44:24) And I looked I just, like, cried because it it just made sense, and I didn't understand because this whole time I've worked really hard and I I tried my best. (44:34) And then for her to tell me that is a was a relief in a way because it wasn't my fault. (44:41) And I'm so sorry to any type who I I don't wanna say it's your fault because sometimes it's not. (44:44) But, like, I had to end my mind this whole time because of the way I I thought maybe it was the way I had eaten when I was younger. (44:51) Like, it's my fault.
Rachel (44:52) And I just couldn't get that out of my head. (44:55) So when she told me that, it was such a relief. (44:57) It wasn't my fault.
Scott Benner (44:58) Yeah. (44:59) I would think not just that too, but all the effort you're putting into eating and exercising and everything like that probably felt like you were failing at that as well. (45:05) And now you see that that really wasn't, you know, gonna take care of things.
Rachel (45:10) Yeah. (45:10) It was it wasn't my fault. (45:12) You know?
Scott Benner (45:12) How long does the relief last, and when does it turn into, oh, crap. (45:15) I have type one diabetes?
Rachel (45:18) I think, in a way, it still is a relief because it's everybody's gonna be kill me if I say this. (45:29) But, honestly, Scott, this is easier in a way than having type two and not having the medication. (45:35) Because I was treating during my pregnancies, after my pregnancies, I was trying so, so hard. (45:41) I worked so hard, and that was so tiring mentally, physically, emotionally. (45:45) And now I have the right medicine I need, and I feel good, and I can exercise.
Rachel (45:49) I can eat pizza. (45:50) I can have cake. (45:51) Like, I can do these things and not feel guilty. (45:53) I can live my life and not feel guilty. (45:56) You could eat and not feel guilty.
Rachel (45:57) Sometimes it's getting a little bit harder now. (45:59) I think, you know, the relief maybe is wearing off a little bit, but it right now, it's just life, and I just feel blessed that I'm alive sometimes they think, wow, I should be dead. (46:09) This were a hundred plus years ago, I would be dead. (46:11) If I had these kids, I would have my husband wouldn't have me anymore. (46:14) Like
Scott Benner (46:15) I was wondering what he did just for the night you were in the ICU with those three kids.
Rachel (46:19) Oh, I don't know. (46:20) I don't know what they were. (46:21) Oh, it's oh, it's really sad. (46:22) Was my son's first birthday. (46:24) Was really sad.
Rachel (46:26) The day I went in.
Scott Benner (46:27) Are you a stay at home mom or do you work?
Rachel (46:29) I am a stay at home mom. (46:30) Praise Jesus.
Scott Benner (46:31) Well, no. (46:31) I mean, like, because that's what I was trying to say. (46:33) Was, like, you know, he might not have a whole lot of experience with those three small kids. (46:38) Right?
Rachel (46:39) Maybe. (46:41) My mom probably took it. (46:43) I think my mom took care
Scott Benner (46:43) of them.
Rachel (46:43) He was with me most of the time.
Scott Benner (46:45) You think your mom took care of him?
Rachel (46:47) Yeah. (46:47) She's really great. (46:48) We she lives three minutes away. (46:49) I hang out with her all the time.
Scott Benner (46:50) Okay. (46:51) Alright. (46:51) So his job is just basically to get your pregnant and pay for stuff?
Rachel (46:54) A 100%. (46:55) I call it smash and dash.
Scott Benner (46:58) Do you really call it that?
Rachel (47:00) I do. (47:01) I've told my friends about it. (47:02) I have another friend whose husband is only home on the weekends, and he as well does the smash and dash. (47:07) Classic smash and dash.
Scott Benner (47:08) The classic smash and dash.
Rachel (47:10) No. (47:11) I think everybody knows how much I love my husband. (47:13) I'm very open about that.
Scott Benner (47:14) You think your mom thinks you've had sex four times and each time you've gotten pregnant?
Rachel (47:18) No. (47:18) No. (47:19) My mom would never think that. (47:20) But she's she's special. (47:22) She's real special.
Rachel (47:22) She's she's very she's more open about sex than anybody in my entire life.
Scott Benner (47:25) Well, she's got like, you said it's a blended family, but how many kids did your mom have?
Rachel (47:29) She has six.
Scott Benner (47:30) Okay. (47:30) And she and she found a guy with four?
Rachel (47:33) Yep. (47:33) My dad had four before they got married.
Scott Benner (47:35) Oh. (47:35) Oh, you're you're her I see. (47:38) Your father had four before he met your mom.
Rachel (47:41) Mhmm. (47:41) And my mom had one, and then they got together and they didn't hit us.
Scott Benner (47:45) And they made Mars. (47:45) I gotcha. (47:46) Yeah. (47:46) Did they have pets when they got together?
Rachel (47:49) Oh, I don't know. (47:50) But they had pets when I was growing up.
Scott Benner (47:51) My god. (47:52) Where do people get the energy?
Rachel (47:54) I don't know.
Scott Benner (47:55) And my mom I don't understand the energy and the money. (47:58) While you're talking, none of it make sense to me.
Rachel (48:00) Listen, Scott, like you said, you're not religious, but it's gotta be the lord. (48:04) That's all I can say. (48:05) That's the only explanation we have in this world.
Scott Benner (48:07) Yeah. (48:08) I don't know. (48:08) I can have another explanation. (48:10) But I I
Rachel (48:12) Okay. (48:12) Robbery.
Scott Benner (48:14) I don't know. (48:14) I don't I don't know what you're doing over there. (48:16) Okay. (48:17) Alright. (48:17) So trying to put my head around it.
Scott Benner (48:20) So you have Lada, but they give you insulin. (48:22) They give you Lantus at first. (48:23) And then Yes. (48:24) She helps you by hooking you up with the educator who says, like, hey. (48:28) That was all wrong.
Scott Benner (48:30) Gets you go in the right direction. (48:31) Do you leave with fast acting insulin with a better understanding? (48:34) Like, how do you launch into the world? (48:36) And and, again, this is ten months ago. (48:38) Right?
Rachel (48:38) Oh, yes. (48:39) It was. (48:39) Yeah. (48:39) Okay.
Scott Benner (48:40) Mhmm.
Rachel (48:40) So really great. (48:41) She she made them give get me the antibody test and because they didn't do that. (48:45) The whole entire hospital did not run an antibody test. (48:48) And then she got me that PASACTA and the Lantus. (48:51) So I was on NovoLog and Lantus, did MDI for a while.
Rachel (48:54) I think I got a CGM pretty much right away and then the pump probably, like, three months after. (48:59) I'm on Omnipod and Dex.
Scott Benner (49:01) Okay. (49:02) How long did they keep you in the hospital then?
Rachel (49:05) Three days? (49:06) Two days?
Scott Benner (49:06) Okay. (49:06) So you left with some training, not a ton.
Rachel (49:09) Yeah. (49:09) Literally, that hour and a half with the educator was all I got, and the rest of it was from your podcast on I'm not even kidding you.
Scott Benner (49:16) Really?
Rachel (49:16) And my I'm not even kidding you. (49:18) My a one c last time I got it was five point five, and I was admitted at a thirteen.
Scott Benner (49:24) My goodness. (49:24) Good job.
Rachel (49:25) Thank you, sir.
Scott Benner (49:26) You think you're honeymooning, or do you think that's or not? (49:29) I
Rachel (49:30) don't think I don't see. (49:31) I don't even know if I had a honeymoon. (49:32) I don't know if it's a Lada. (49:33) Like, it punched in, it punched out. (49:35) I think that's what happened.
Scott Benner (49:36) So you think the slow progression is going all the way back to your eighteen till ten months ago, but ten months ago, you were, like, full blown, let's go type one.
Rachel (49:44) I think so. (49:44) And if there was a honeymoon, it was possibly for, like, two seconds. (49:49) And, yeah, I don't think so anymore.
Scott Benner (49:50) Okay.
Rachel (49:51) Because everything is really consistent, and I have a lot of ups and downs.
Scott Benner (49:55) I see. (49:56) So I see. (49:57) Okay. (49:57) Listen. (49:58) This is apropos of nothing, but you seem to have a lot of answers.
Scott Benner (50:01) Do you think I should get Botox? (50:02) I have some wrinkles around my eyes and on my forehead. (50:04) And I was looking the other day, and I thought, could I get rid of these? (50:08) Botox didn't occur to me. (50:10) But then I was in a restaurant Saturday night, and we were joking around.
Scott Benner (50:13) My wife and I were talking to actually, I was diagnosing someone with a thyroid issue, my waitress, which by the way, I was right about. (50:22) And as soon soon I brought it up, she was like, I've been wondering that about myself too. (50:26) I was like, uh-huh. (50:27) So I got her all set up with how to take care of that. (50:30) And we were joking around about something.
Scott Benner (50:32) I think she looks looks younger than she is or something or I forget what the vibe was. (50:37) And and I said, don't know. (50:39) I look at my wrinkles. (50:40) I'm thinking of getting Botox. (50:42) And she goes, I do it.
Scott Benner (50:44) And I was like, wait. (50:45) What? (50:45) She's, like, really young. (50:47) And I was like, what do you mean you do it? (50:48) She goes, well, I have a family member who does it, you know, so I I don't really pay the whole cost.
Rachel (50:53) Oh my gosh.
Scott Benner (50:53) I do it prophylactically. (50:55) She she didn't use that word, but that's what she meant. (50:57) She meant, like by the way, prophylactic can mean to stop something from happening. (51:01) I know you would have no idea about this. (51:03) It's also could mean a condom.
Scott Benner (51:04) It's another thing I don't think you've ever seen in your life.
Rachel (51:06) Thought it was, but you're right. (51:08) I have there is, a bag of condoms that are untouched in this house.
Scott Benner (51:12) Oh, I bet they're dry rotted somewhere.
Rachel (51:14) Probably. (51:15) They're expired, certainly.
Scott Benner (51:17) And she's like, it would really work. (51:18) And I thought, oh, would I do that? (51:20) And then I thought, maybe I would. (51:22) What do you think?
Rachel (51:23) If you can't afford to hire a staff, can you afford Botox?
Scott Benner (51:28) I don't know what it cost. (51:29) That's the one thing she didn't know. (51:30) I asked her. (51:30) Was like, well, what's it cost? (51:31) She's like, I don't really know.
Scott Benner (51:32) I don't pay the real price. (51:33) And I was like, oh, okay.
Rachel (51:35) What was the did she tell you what the not real price was?
Scott Benner (51:38) Because that
Rachel (51:38) might give you a good idea.
Scott Benner (51:39) It sounded like it sounded like her aunt does it for her. (51:42) I just thought of just saying to her, I was like, why you just get your aunt to help me out a little bit? (51:45) I just helped you with your thyroid thing.
Rachel (51:47) Yeah. (51:47) Right?
Scott Benner (51:48) But I didn't say that. (51:49) Why why don't we find out just very quickly before we get back to your story?
Rachel (51:53) Yeah. (51:53) Please. (51:53) Look it up. (51:54) This is really, really important.
Scott Benner (51:55) I think
Rachel (51:55) it is look at this right now.
Scott Benner (51:57) Right around my eyes and my forehead, how much?
Rachel (52:01) I am looking at a picture of you right now, and I'm not gonna say anything else.
Scott Benner (52:05) Yeah. (52:05) I look old.
Rachel (52:07) I don't say old, but you do look like you have had some time in this world.
Scott Benner (52:11) I've been in the sun. (52:12) Right? (52:13) How much is what we just call it Botox for my forehead.
Rachel (52:19) I wonder if insurance would touch that at
Scott Benner (52:21) all. (52:21) Around my eyes. (52:22) Can you imagine if I was like, listen. (52:24) I have a podcast, so this is a medical thing.
Rachel (52:27) You Okay. (52:28) Can maybe go to a dermatologist. (52:29) Maybe it'll be covered if you could do it under that.
Scott Benner (52:31) Oh, woah. (52:32) Hold on. (52:32) Botox is often priced per unit. (52:34) Typically, it's a range of 10 to $20 or more per unit in The US. (52:38) A session treating your forehead might require, oh, ten to thirty units or more.
Scott Benner (52:42) Okay.
Rachel (52:43) Imagine if that were in insulin, like, ten to thirty units to the forehead.
Scott Benner (52:47) Wow. (52:48) Yeah. (52:48) Wait. (52:49) You definitely you would definitely get low from that. (52:50) There are areas around your eyes like crow's feet that could take ten to twenty four units.
Scott Benner (52:53) So what I'm hearing here is I might need somewhere between twenty and fifty five units, depending on my anatomy and my goals. (53:02) For the forehead, you might expect the cost to be somewhere between a $106,100 dollars. (53:06) Well, for the areas around the eyes, 50 150 to 400. (53:11) If I treat them okay. (53:12) Well, how how long does it last for?
Scott Benner (53:14) Typical timeline. (53:15) Results appear within three to seven days. (53:17) I could look younger in seven days. (53:19) Full effects around two weeks. (53:21) Peak effectiveness, two to eight weeks.
Scott Benner (53:24) Fading, three three months.
Rachel (53:27) Wow.
Scott Benner (53:28) I'm looking at $3 a year to keep my face smooth?
Rachel (53:31) That's the that's what I'm telling you now.
Scott Benner (53:33) For that.
Rachel (53:34) Paid intern instead. (53:35) Paid intern.
Scott Benner (53:35) I'm 54 now. (53:36) If I live twenty more years, you're telling me about three no. (53:39) Alright. (53:40) $60,000 of Botox? (53:42) I can't do it.
Scott Benner (53:43) Alright. (53:44) I guess I'll just look like this. (53:45) Now, by the way
Rachel (53:46) There goes your retirement.
Scott Benner (53:47) Now if next year I show up at some event and people are like, where are all your wrinkles? (53:50) They'll be like, that guy, he spent that money on that Botox.
Rachel (53:53) He spent his retirement on Botox.
Scott Benner (53:56) I wonder if I could get, like, an advertiser to pay for it. (53:59) Oh. (54:00) Hey, Omnipod. (54:00) Do you wanna pay for my Botox? (54:04) I'll look younger at events when I'm there.
Scott Benner (54:06) Right?
Rachel (54:07) Mhmm. (54:08) Yep. (54:08) Prettier prettier people sell things. (54:11) Right?
Scott Benner (54:11) No. (54:11) Tandem had me to friends for diabetes. (54:13) Wouldn't you like me to look younger next year at friends for diabetes tandem? (54:16) Just
Rachel (54:17) like the people, like, who come into the doctor's office, they drop off the samples. (54:21) So there's your argument. (54:23) I need to look like the sample people.
Scott Benner (54:25) I have to say, as much as I would like it to just last forever if I'm paying for it, the other side of me thinks, like, I'm glad it wouldn't last forever because what if I didn't like it? (54:33) You know what I mean?
Rachel (54:34) True.
Scott Benner (54:35) Like, at what at least it would go away.
Rachel (54:37) What if Kelly likes to, though?
Scott Benner (54:38) Kelly.
Rachel (54:39) She's kinda your sugar mama. (54:40) Right? (54:40) She'll pay for it.
Scott Benner (54:41) I don't think she looks me in the eye. (54:42) How would she see my eyes? (54:43) She's so tight. (54:45) That girl works so hard. (54:46) You have no idea.
Scott Benner (54:46) Cool. (54:47) Yeah. (54:48) Just seriously, I don't talk about it enough. (54:50) It's quite a feat, how much how much she works, actually. (54:54) Very good at her job.
Scott Benner (54:55) Very type a. (54:56) Tough job. (54:57) She really digs deep. (54:58) Does a good job for people. (54:59) So
Rachel (55:00) Does she still work with the the pharmaceutical company? (55:03) Because I'm way back.
Scott Benner (55:04) Yeah. (55:04) No. (55:04) She does drug safety. (55:05) Yeah. (55:05) She's, she's the one who tries to make sure that the stuff is safe and effective and that reporting is done correctly and all the stuff you hope somebody's doing at a pharmaceutical company.
Scott Benner (55:15) So
Rachel (55:16) Oh, I thank her for her service then because, you know, we need that stuff.
Scott Benner (55:19) She hustles. (55:20) She really does. (55:21) Okay. (55:22) Now that we've gotten past my Botox, which is not I mean, is it gonna happen? (55:28) What if I could I just do one eye for couldn't that be crazy if I got no wrinkles on one side?
Rachel (55:32) I was
Scott Benner (55:33) like, let me just see if this
Rachel (55:33) is the truck drivers, you know, how one side of their face is, like, totally wrinkled and then the other side is nice.
Scott Benner (55:39) Oh, I do know that. (55:41) Yeah. (55:42) Well, they probably get off cheaper when they do Botox then.
Rachel (55:45) That's hilarious.
Scott Benner (55:46) You think you think truck drivers get cheaper Botox?
Rachel (55:49) PSA to all the truck drivers out there. (55:52) Half price Botox.
Scott Benner (55:53) Yeah. (55:53) But what should they do? (55:54) Like, maybe get a sun shade, you think?
Rachel (55:56) I have no idea. (55:57) I I don't know.
Scott Benner (55:59) They should do sun I don't
Rachel (55:59) know if anyone maybe just slather sunscreen on one side every morning.
Scott Benner (56:03) Mine is from the baseball and softball fields, which Mhmm. (56:06) You know, is awesome because neither of my kids play baseball or softball anymore, and I still look like I've been outside my whole life. (56:12) Also, I probably could have, like, you know, worn a hat or, you know, done something.
Rachel (56:17) That's okay. (56:18) You had other stuff on your mind.
Scott Benner (56:19) I yeah, I was thinking about all that stuff.
Rachel (56:22) Yeah. (56:22) I mean, that's crazy with trying to exercise and diabetes is.
Scott Benner (56:26) How are you gonna do this with your kids? (56:27) They're so close in age. (56:28) What if they wanna play soccer or something? (56:30) How are you even gonna, like, do that?
Rachel (56:33) Oh, I don't know. (56:34) I don't know.
Scott Benner (56:35) Seriously, you're not gonna be able to. (56:36) Like, you have to buy one of those, like, t shirt cannons and just shoot them towards the different fields because you won't have time to run them to each one of them. (56:43) It's gonna be a problem for you. (56:44) Maybe just release them into the park and tell them to run-in the general direction of where their practice is.
Rachel (56:49) Yeah. (56:49) That's what I'll do.
Scott Benner (56:50) Do you enjoy the sports, or do you think your kids won't do that?
Rachel (56:53) I hope they don't. (56:54) I don't wanna do any sports. (56:56) I don't like sports.
Scott Benner (56:56) You didn't sports at all as a child?
Rachel (56:58) No. (56:59) I wanted to, but again, I'm the big family. (57:01) Didn't really have money. (57:02) My brothers did football though. (57:04) Hello.
Rachel (57:04) Prioritize the son.
Scott Benner (57:06) My bad. (57:07) There. (57:07) Yeah. (57:07) Calling you out right there. (57:08) How about that boy?
Rachel (57:09) Called them out. (57:10) I was like, you guys no. (57:11) I'm kidding.
Scott Benner (57:12) How about that boy that you let up marry you? (57:13) Does he, did he like sports?
Rachel (57:15) He likes basketball, but he's actually a jujitsu instructor. (57:19) He's really awesome. (57:21) And he my daughter does jujitsu too. (57:23) So we're gonna raise them up in the martial arts. (57:26) And Oh, that's nice.
Rachel (57:27) Hopefully, it'll all just be one dojo, and that'll be a lot easier.
Scott Benner (57:29) Yeah. (57:30) Okay. (57:30) Well, that's nice. (57:31) Plus, he can show them, and he'll know a little bit about it. (57:33) We're gonna finish up with why your husband's so awesome right after we finish up with your diabetes.
Scott Benner (57:37) This is these are our last two topics right now.
Rachel (57:39) So Okay.
Scott Benner (57:40) Today, are you using a pump or are you still MDI?
Rachel (57:43) I am using a pump.
Scott Benner (57:44) No. (57:45) You said Omnipod.
Rachel (57:46) Yeah. (57:46) I'm on the Omnipod. (57:47) And I was I thought you might be interested to know. (57:50) I'm actually using manual mode. (57:51) I was in automated, but it was driving me nuts.
Rachel (57:54) So I switched to manual because I want to I think I'm a little bit of a control freak.
Scott Benner (57:58) No. (57:59) Stop. (58:00) Sorry. (58:00) That was a joke because you're making all these babies. (58:02) It feels like you are trying to control things is what I'm saying.
Rachel (58:04) Oh, no. (58:05) Dang. (58:05) That's rough. (58:06) Oh, I'll say that's gonna take some reflection. (58:08) I'm gonna have to think about it.
Scott Benner (58:09) Well, do that on your own time.
Rachel (58:11) Okay. (58:12) You did the Botox on your on our time here, so I don't know.
Scott Benner (58:15) It's my podcast. (58:15) If you wanna talk about your thing, make your own damn podcast. (58:18) Invite me on. (58:19) And then tell me and then tell me I would like to reflect, and I'll sit and listen.
Rachel (58:23) I'm gonna I actually had a, like, a mini short podcast I was sending only to my brothers and sisters. (58:27) I believe it was Jesus and titties, because, like, type one diabetes titties. (58:32) So I would I would do my, like, bible devotions, and then I would talk to them about that and then talk to them about sometimes diabetes on the treadmill. (58:40) So sometimes Jesus and titties on the treadmill.
Scott Benner (58:42) Wait. (58:42) I don't understand. (58:43) And now you're gonna make me say titties, but titties is the diabetes?
Rachel (58:47) Think think about it. (58:48) T one d, titties.
Scott Benner (58:50) Am I understanding this right? (58:51) In your mini podcast that you were only sharing with your siblings, that's what you had? (58:55) Yes. (58:55) Boy, I'll tell you what. (58:56) Look out for my brothers.
Scott Benner (58:57) I'm gonna start I'm gonna start recording audio and send it to you. (59:00) They're like, oh my god. (59:01) Don't do that. (59:03) See, you didn't actually talk about breasts in the podcast.
Rachel (59:06) There could have been, but probably not.
Scott Benner (59:07) You could have been. (59:08) Did you breastfeed those three kids?
Rachel (59:10) Oh, yeah.
Scott Benner (59:10) Oh, no kidding. (59:11) You do the fourth one too?
Rachel (59:13) Oh, I will be.
Scott Benner (59:14) And what about when you trick that boy into fifth one? (59:16) Do you think it was with that one too?
Rachel (59:18) Of course.
Scott Benner (59:18) Of course.
Rachel (59:19) Maybe the maybe the eighth one as well.
Scott Benner (59:21) I swear to god. (59:22) If you only have four kids, I'll eat my hat. (59:24) There's no way that's gonna happen.
Rachel (59:26) Gosh. (59:27) If I have more than four kids, I don't know. (59:29) My husband don't know if he's got this might. (59:32) Thing. (59:34) He really might.
Rachel (59:35) He might he might take away my my wiener rights. (59:39) We'll say that.
Scott Benner (59:39) He might have to get you into a throuple so somebody else has to pay for some of this.
Rachel (59:43) No. (59:43) Scott, don't say that. (59:44) Oh. (59:44) We're we're about the lord over here. (59:46) No throuples.
Scott Benner (59:46) You just said wiener rights.
Rachel (59:49) So? (59:50) The lord the lord made sex, my guy.
Scott Benner (59:52) You don't think he made throuples? (59:54) No. (59:55) Alright. (59:55) Well, you
Rachel (59:56) draw not biblical. (59:57) That is not biblical.
Scott Benner (59:58) Drawn your line. (59:59) I understand. (1:00:00) Yeah. (1:00:00) So wait. (1:00:01) So you're using Omnipod five in manual?
Scott Benner (1:00:03) My transitions are apoplectic at this point, but I apologize
Rachel (1:00:09) this for that. (1:00:10) Podcast. (1:00:11) We're gonna have a time.
Scott Benner (1:00:12) So why are you not using automated?
Rachel (1:00:14) Well, so it has this goal. (1:00:16) You know, the goal is one ten, and I really want to be a normal person in range because as you know, we're not a fan of birth control over here.
Scott Benner (1:00:24) Mhmm.
Rachel (1:00:24) And when you're pregnant, you have to be in between seventy and one twenty. (1:00:28) And, also, I just wanna live my life like that. (1:00:30) I wanna be normal and healthy as long as I can.
Scott Benner (1:00:32) Okay.
Rachel (1:00:32) So I just wanna stay in that range. (1:00:34) So I like your your idea of floating in the eighties. (1:00:37) So as always, my goal is to float in the eighties, and I have my ranges set between seventy and one thirty. (1:00:42) I have my alarm set at 01:20, and I'm usually between 80 to 88% in range in between that.
Scott Benner (1:00:49) You're awesome at this. (1:00:50) I taught you all this?
Rachel (1:00:52) You did, sir, and the endocrinologist was 0% helpful. (1:00:55) Crap. (1:00:55) Did not go back them. (1:00:56) I'm not seeing them. (1:00:58) I have my drug dealer now as my primary care doctor.
Rachel (1:01:01) So so sorry, endocrinologist. (1:01:03) I don't mean to be mean, but it's true. (1:01:04) They were not helpful at all. (1:01:05) They told me not to correct. (1:01:07) Okay?
Scott Benner (1:01:07) Just stay higher? (1:01:08) They wouldn't just stay higher?
Rachel (1:01:10) Yeah. (1:01:10) They told me he told me not to correct. (1:01:11) He told me to just go on a walk or or drink some water. (1:01:14) And I was like
Scott Benner (1:01:15) Wait. (1:01:15) Your blood sugar's high? (1:01:16) Should have a drink of water?
Rachel (1:01:18) Drink yeah. (1:01:18) Go on a walk and go on a walk and or drink water.
Scott Benner (1:01:21) That was the endocrinologist.
Rachel (1:01:22) That was the endocrinologist.
Scott Benner (1:01:24) Okay. (1:01:25) Alright.
Rachel (1:01:25) Oh, I don't see them anymore. (1:01:27) I see them.
Scott Benner (1:01:27) Thank god for me.
Rachel (1:01:28) I I yeah. (1:01:30) Can you
Scott Benner (1:01:31) imagine if I meant that?
Rachel (1:01:32) I don't have an endocrinologist because I my I feel comfortable taking care of myself because of your podcast.
Scott Benner (1:01:38) Well, I'm I'm genuinely happy about that. (1:01:40) I know we've been joking around a lot, but I I really do appreciate that knowing that, and I'm glad that you feel that way and you're having those outcomes. (1:01:46) That's really awesome.
Rachel (1:01:47) Thank you. (1:01:47) And I I mean, that's, again, why I wanted to come on here and tell people. (1:01:50) And I I hope they hear this because this podcast has changed my life, has has helped me so much. (1:01:57) It's been a valuable resource, and I tell everybody I know. (1:02:00) I've told all the diabetics that I know about it.
Rachel (1:02:02) One little lady, she's been a die I just met at the gym. (1:02:05) She's been a diabetic since she was 15, and she just started listening to your podcast and has already helped her some. (1:02:10) And so I just feel like this has been so helpful, and I am so thankful.
Scott Benner (1:02:15) So Jeez. (1:02:15) I yeah. (1:02:16) It almost made me Thank you. (1:02:17) Almost made me cry.
Rachel (1:02:18) It's I it's true. (1:02:19) It's good.
Scott Benner (1:02:20) That's lovely.
Rachel (1:02:20) I tell everybody.
Scott Benner (1:02:21) I'm so happy. (1:02:22) That's that's really wonderful. (1:02:23) Isn't it interesting that we have found a way to take this somehow religious, stupid, tiny bit prerogative conversation and and do all these things with it. (1:02:35) And yet somehow, through listening to this thing, you you're having those health outcomes.
Rachel (1:02:40) Yeah. (1:02:41) I I'm very grateful.
Scott Benner (1:02:42) Oh, you're very nice. (1:02:43) You don't have to are you thanking me? (1:02:45) You don't need to thank me. (1:02:46) What I'm saying is that this is how people learn. (1:02:50) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (1:02:51) You know, I guess what what's got it in my head is that I've been compiling a list for a while, and I've got it down. (1:02:57) It's pretty close to done. (1:02:58) I think I'm gonna float it one more time out to the to the listenership and make sure I haven't missed anything. (1:03:04) But it's a list of things that people struggle with. (1:03:08) I started off by getting a list of things that people struggle with, then we kinda, like, let people upvote it so you could see, like, you know, it's not just one person who said this thing.
Scott Benner (1:03:16) There's 300 people agreed that that was a problem. (1:03:19) I'm looking at that and then I've kinda reverse engineered about how to put that list into the podcast in ways that will actually help you. (1:03:29) Mhmm. (1:03:30) Not make it cold or not make it, I don't know, clinical. (1:03:37) People don't like that.
Scott Benner (1:03:39) It's not how people learn. (1:03:40) And I think the conversational is better. (1:03:43) You know, it does it open it up to every once in a while somebody says something like, oh, I wish I wouldn't have said it that way. (1:03:48) Yeah. (1:03:48) But I I trust adults to be adults and listen through and make their own decisions and everything.
Scott Benner (1:03:55) And and I just think that having made the podcast for this long gives me the opportunity to do stuff like that. (1:04:02) You have to really be around this for a long time and absorb a lot of different aspects and hear 2,000 conversations from other people. (1:04:11) And Mhmm. (1:04:11) You watch, you know, a Facebook group with I mean, I don't even know what's in it anymore. (1:04:16) 75,000 members, maybe.
Scott Benner (1:04:18) Right? (1:04:19) And watch what what's torturing them, what's working for them, what they need, you know, and be able to kinda coalesce it all together and then put it back out in a way that is, you know, I don't know, I think easy to absorb and understand. (1:04:36) I was thinking about this because I have to go give a talk next week where I'm gonna try to explain to people how they could be helpful to other people too. (1:04:46) I kept coming back to the idea of how grateful I was that this thing actually became like, I'm actually I I I to say because I think it's obvious, but, like, I'm a podcaster. (1:04:56) Like, I do that professionally.
Scott Benner (1:04:58) And if I wasn't doing it like this with this singular focus of trying to help people and if I was not continuing to focus on this one aspect of it, I don't think that I'd have the opportunity to continue to hear things, absorb them, put them back out again, clarify them, re clarify them, that kind of stuff like that. (1:05:21) That just wouldn't exist.
Rachel (1:05:22) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (1:05:23) I I think this is just a thing that doesn't happen in a lot of walks of life.
Rachel (1:05:28) Yeah. (1:05:28) That's
Scott Benner (1:05:29) true. (1:05:29) And yeah. (1:05:30) I'm just really happy that it that it I mean, because to hear that you went through all the stuff that you went through, right, and ten months ago, had a 13 a one c, somebody who didn't help you, and ten months later would you say you're a five five, did you say?
Rachel (1:05:46) Yes. (1:05:46) And I I'm coming up on another one soon, I think going in manual mode because that was in auto mode. (1:05:52) Going in manual mode. (1:05:53) Have high hopes that will be even lower. (1:05:55) That was like
Scott Benner (1:05:56) You were doing a five five in auto?
Rachel (1:05:58) Yes, sir.
Scott Benner (1:05:59) Okay. (1:05:59) That's awesome too. (1:06:01) So Thank you. (1:06:02) Yeah. (1:06:02) No.
Scott Benner (1:06:02) You're welcome. (1:06:03) How did you find the time to listen to the podcast, get the information, put it into practice? (1:06:08) And you have three kids, and I'm assuming are cooking or having sex with all of your other time. (1:06:13) Right?
Rachel (1:06:14) At the same time.
Scott Benner (1:06:15) At the same time.
Rachel (1:06:17) I'm kidding.
Scott Benner (1:06:18) Well, I don't know if you're kidding, first of all, but that's fine. (1:06:20) And secondly, I'm trying to say, like, I hear a lot of people online tell me, I don't have time. (1:06:26) What are the ages of your kids?
Rachel (1:06:28) Six to a year and a half ish.
Scott Benner (1:06:31) Uh-huh. (1:06:32) Alright. (1:06:32) I don't think I wanna hear that excuse from people anymore. (1:06:34) You sound busy is what I'm saying.
Rachel (1:06:36) Yes. (1:06:37) And if it helps, and not to brag, but I do homeschool. (1:06:40) So
Scott Benner (1:06:41) Well, you're homeschooling the kids on top of all that?
Rachel (1:06:44) Yeah. (1:06:44) My my homeschool, my daughter, she's six. (1:06:46) My other one is three, so he's not doing anything yet.
Scott Benner (1:06:49) And you found time to, like, go dive into a podcast and learn a bit? (1:06:53) You didn't even you started at the beginning. (1:06:54) Right?
Rachel (1:06:55) I started with the pro tip series Okay. (1:06:57) And then started it back at the beginning and just kinda listening here and there to what I needed. (1:07:02) So, like, I pop back in at, you know, how to use auto mode or Yeah. (1:07:08) Yeah. (1:07:08) Whatever whatever area I needed to go in our Next one, I'm obviously gonna be doing pregnancy.
Rachel (1:07:13) I gotta check-in on that one.
Scott Benner (1:07:14) Good for you. (1:07:14) Yeah. (1:07:14) We have a lot of pregnancy episodes. (1:07:17) Oh, my last question for you. (1:07:19) Do you have anything for me before I ask you my last question?
Rachel (1:07:21) Oh, well, you asked how I have the time. (1:07:24) So I just do it I just listen while I'm doing chores or cooking. (1:07:27) That's that's it. (1:07:28) I just listen during the day as I'm doing stuff, but that doesn't need my brain.
Scott Benner (1:07:33) You live you live in the headphones or you have it out out loud in the house?
Rachel (1:07:36) I live in my headphones, honestly. (1:07:38) Yeah. (1:07:39) I I just, you know, pause it if my daughter talks to me or something or Sure. (1:07:42) If I need to yell at somebody.
Scott Benner (1:07:43) Sometimes I get yelled at because my headphones are noise cancelling.
Rachel (1:07:46) Mhmm. (1:07:47) Yeah. (1:07:47) Mine are noise cancelling, but my kids are louder, so it's fine.
Scott Benner (1:07:50) I can still hear them. (1:07:51) Alright. (1:07:51) So being serious, like, don't just be, like, Pollyanna. (1:07:56) What's so special about that boy? (1:07:58) How did you, like, lock him down early?
Scott Benner (1:08:00) Like, how did you even figure out when you were how old did you marry him at?
Rachel (1:08:04) I married him when I was 19. (1:08:06) We, started dating when I was 18. (1:08:08) We were friends when I was 17. (1:08:10) Sorry.
Scott Benner (1:08:11) Yeah. (1:08:11) But how do you figure that out? (1:08:13) Like like, how do you at 18, how do you say that kid is gonna come through? (1:08:19) He's not gonna flake. (1:08:21) Like, how did you how did you know?
Rachel (1:08:23) I just knew he was a really good man. (1:08:25) And I've always said this to him, and I've said it to others that even if I didn't love him, I think I still would have married him because he's such a good man. (1:08:33) And I know he would provide for me and take care of my family, and he's just a man of God and he yeah. (1:08:40) He's just really a really good man.
Scott Benner (1:08:42) Wow. (1:08:43) Even if you weren't attracted to him and didn't love him, you think he'd still be the best choice?
Rachel (1:08:47) I honestly think so because somebody can be the most beautiful person. (1:08:51) You can have all the feelings for them, but they can still end up being garbage. (1:08:54) And my husband, after eight years, is wonderful and amazing and a treasure.
Scott Benner (1:08:59) No kidding. (1:09:00) Good for him. (1:09:01) Woah. (1:09:01) Woah. (1:09:01) How'd that happen?
Scott Benner (1:09:03) Like, did he was he raised well? (1:09:05) Like, what what do you think it was?
Rachel (1:09:07) He's Vietnamese. (1:09:07) His parents are, you know, classic Asian, so they're very strict. (1:09:10) And he always had a good work ethic that he learned from his family. (1:09:14) And, you know, it's always been about god, family, and working hard. (1:09:18) And so he's just had these really great qualities that his parents have imparted on him.
Rachel (1:09:23) And that, think, also, like, naturally, been a part of his character. (1:09:29) And I could just tell that. (1:09:31) And I know it's really a cliche, but when you know, you know. (1:09:33) And I knew immediately that I wanted to marry him, and he knew he wanted to marry me. (1:09:37) And I think it's going pretty well.
Rachel (1:09:39) I mean, it's been eight years, so that's pretty good. (1:09:41) A lot of people don't make it that far. (1:09:43) And we have three kids, and we're still in love. (1:09:45) And we just wanna spend our time together as much as we can. (1:09:48) He actually works two jobs, so it's a little bit hard.
Rachel (1:09:51) He works two jobs so I can stay home. (1:09:52) So I feel very blessed that he like I like I said, he's a really good provider. (1:09:57) So he he works two jobs like, stay home and take care of these kids and homeschool and, you know, smash and dash, all that good stuff.
Scott Benner (1:10:03) How lovely.
Rachel (1:10:05) And He's really amazing.
Scott Benner (1:10:06) Yeah. (1:10:07) You I that that that's really nice. (1:10:09) That's a lovely way to end this. (1:10:10) I I appreciate you telling me that. (1:10:12) That is that is really terrific.
Scott Benner (1:10:13) I hope that the podcast continues to be valuable for you, and I really appreciate you taking the time to share this all with me. (1:10:19) Can I ask you, like, one last question even though I said I wasn't going to?
Rachel (1:10:22) Of course.
Scott Benner (1:10:23) Do you think you'll have your kids tested for antibodies ever?
Rachel (1:10:26) I have already.
Scott Benner (1:10:28) Okay.
Rachel (1:10:29) Yeah. (1:10:29) But my youngest is still too little, but the other two, all clear so far.
Scott Benner (1:10:33) Okay. (1:10:34) And, I I never got to, is there any other autoimmune for you or in your family line on your your side?
Rachel (1:10:42) No diabetes, except my my grandma has type two. (1:10:45) Classic, again. (1:10:46) My brother has a thyroid problem, and my mom has fibromyalgia. (1:10:51) Mhmm. (1:10:51) So I don't know if that has any played it, but other than that, no diabetes.
Rachel (1:10:54) No type one.
Scott Benner (1:10:55) Okay. (1:10:56) How were you raised? (1:10:57) What genre are you?
Rachel (1:11:00) Like What do you mean?
Scott Benner (1:11:01) Have, like, like, you're religious. (1:11:02) Like, what religious background are you?
Rachel (1:11:03) Oh, Christian.
Scott Benner (1:11:05) Just just a, like, a classic vanilla Christian background.
Rachel (1:11:08) I mean, I guess you could say vanilla. (1:11:10) Sure.
Scott Benner (1:11:10) But I mean, does does it does it lean Catholic or Baptist or something like that, I mean?
Rachel (1:11:14) No. (1:11:15) I don't I don't prefer to say dominant denominational. (1:11:17) I don't really believe in that.
Scott Benner (1:11:18) Gotcha. (1:11:19) Okay.
Rachel (1:11:20) We I would say, I don't even know what the all the denomination names are. (1:11:24) I just love the Lord and I believe in the Lord and that's where I'm at. (1:11:27) Alright.
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