#1700 That About Sums It Up
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Shannon returns to discuss perimenopause, GLP-1s, and Hashimoto’s. She and Scott navigate the challenges of raising a teen with T1D and ADHD while preparing for adulthood.
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Scott Benner (0:00) Hello, friends. (0:01) Welcome to the Juice Box podcast. (0:03) From my family to yours, I want to wish you a happy holiday.
Shannon (0:17) Hey. (0:18) I'm Shannon, and I was on that episode 500 and something, that crazy mom from Texas, and this is my update.
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Shannon (2:47) Hey. (2:48) I'm Shannon, and I was on that episode 500 and something, that crazy mom from Texas, and this is my update.
Scott Benner (2:56) This is what it was wait. (2:57) Hold on. (2:58) I'll just yo. (2:59) Actually, it was called crazy mom from Texas.
Shannon (3:01) It was. (3:02) Because I you nicknamed me crazy mom from Texas.
Scott Benner (3:05) I can't I don't remember why. (3:06) Do you remember why?
Shannon (3:07) Oh, I do. (3:08) Oh, I do. (3:09) Oh, I I do. (3:10) Yep. (3:10) Do you want me to tell you
Scott Benner (3:11) that? (3:11) Want you to tell me what I what you said that made me comfortable enough to call you crazy when I don't know you.
Shannon (3:17) No. (3:18) No. (3:18) No. (3:18) No. (3:18) Okay.
Shannon (3:18) Well, I guess I should I should clarify that a little better. (3:21) Technically, I said it first, and you just ran with it. (3:26) So it's okay. (3:26) I can own my level of crazy. (3:28) But way back when, and honestly, I couldn't even tell you the year, but it's been a minute.
Shannon (3:32) It's been several years that we did this episode. (3:35) And my husband and I were on a night away in a hotel when my father-in-law was watching Nathan, my type one diabetic at the time. (3:44) And it was supposed to be, like, just us stepping away because life was just with type one diabetes was just insane. (3:50) And I had hit a breaking point with type one. (3:53) And I was like, let me message this random guy who runs a podcast who's, like, famous in the type one community.
Shannon (3:59) Let me ask him for help. (4:00) And so I did. (4:02) And you responded actually shockingly fast. (4:05) And I was like, hey. (4:06) I'm this crazy mom from Texas.
Shannon (4:08) I need help, and there you are.
Scott Benner (4:10) Well, I am what a story where I sound lovely. (4:12) That's really the kinds of stories we need.
Shannon (4:14) Yeah. (4:14) Yeah. (4:15) No. (4:15) No. (4:15) You actually were very lovely.
Shannon (4:16) You helped and helped us bowl us for Chick fil A and, you know, it was it was it was great. (4:22) And
Scott Benner (4:22) Wait. (4:22) Wait. (4:23) You said something a second ago. (4:24) It was probably just a slip of the tongue, but you said my type one diabetic at the time. (4:28) He doesn't know
Shannon (4:28) At the time. (4:29) No. (4:29) I know. (4:30) That didn't I realized after I said that.
Scott Benner (4:31) Yeah. (4:31) He hasn't been cured,
Shannon (4:32) hasn't he? (4:32) Type one. (4:33) Okay. (4:33) He hasn't. (4:34) No.
Shannon (4:35) I wish, but no. (4:35) He's still type one.
Scott Benner (4:36) Shannon's back on the show to say she's found the cure. (4:39) This is awesome.
Shannon (4:40) Oh, sorry. (4:41) I wish I really wish that was the case. (4:43) I didn't want people No. (4:44) He's I didn't want people who
Scott Benner (4:46) were paying attention to, like, get get the wrong idea. (4:48) That's all.
Shannon (4:49) I know. (4:49) Sorry. (4:50) No, I was I think I was on the track of saying, and he was around well, he was nine when he was diagnosed. (4:54) And I think he was around, like, maybe 10, 11 at the time. (4:57) And I went to start to say the age, like, 10 at the time, and it just came out wrong.
Scott Benner (5:00) I know what happened. (5:01) It's okay. (5:01) I'm just teasing you. (5:03) What are your thoughts? (5:04) Will we be able to call this one still crazy in Texas when we're done, or or have things gotten better?
Shannon (5:09) Oh, no. (5:10) Things have gotten better. (5:11) I mean, I still own my level of crazy, but I'm not we're not in Texas anymore. (5:14) We moved to East Tennessee, So I can still be the crazy mom from East Tennessee or Tennessee or whatever.
Scott Benner (5:19) Crazy move to Tennessee.
Shannon (5:20) Yeah. (5:21) Yeah.
Scott Benner (5:21) Why is it important to tell me it's East Tennessee?
Shannon (5:24) Oh, well, I guess, I mean, Tennessee well, I think well, they separate Tennessee, obviously, into West, Middle, and East here. (5:29) This is I've learned this since
Scott Benner (5:30) Oh, they do that?
Shannon (5:31) I've moved here. (5:32) So yes. (5:32) So, like, in Middle Tennessee is, like, Murfreesboro. (5:35) I think, like, East is obviously where I am. (5:38) West is what's on the other side?
Shannon (5:40) Not Knoxville, the other one. (5:41) I always forget. (5:42) It's on the other side. (5:43) Is that it's on the West Side.
Scott Benner (5:45) I don't know.
Shannon (5:45) It's escaping me right now. (5:46) It's escaping me right now.
Scott Benner (5:48) My brain is busy going Tennessee. (5:51) Tennessee. (5:52) So soon it's gonna start singing with that song. (5:55) So you moved from Texas to Tennessee. (5:57) You brought some of your crazy with you, but it's not as bad as it used to be.
Scott Benner (6:00) How long has your son had diabetes at this point?
Shannon (6:03) Seven years. (6:04) So he was nine when he was diagnosed, and he is now 16.
Scott Benner (6:07) Wow. (6:08) How does that make you feel?
Shannon (6:09) Oh my god. (6:10) It makes me feel old. (6:11) It's a different level of stress. (6:12) I guess I'll say that. (6:13) Like, I don't I worry differently now.
Shannon (6:16) Is that he's only got, like, a year and a half left of high school and then what? (6:20) You know? (6:20) It just it's a whole new level of, like, worry, concern. (6:24) So this so that's why I say the crazy is still there.
Scott Benner (6:26) Is there some ADHD with you or with him? (6:28) I forget.
Shannon (6:29) He has ADHD. (6:30) My husband's ADHD, but I probably have a touch of the ADD.
Scott Benner (6:34) Oh, just a touch of it? (6:35) Mhmm.
Shannon (6:36) Yeah. (6:36) A touch. (6:37) Yeah.
Scott Benner (6:37) Smattering. (6:38) How does it show up with you? (6:40) How does it show up with your son?
Shannon (6:42) School is a struggle for him, and it always has been, but diabetes has made that extra hard. (6:49) For me, it's just, like, focus. (6:50) I just noticed that now as I've gotten older and, like, this lovely perimenopausal phase, I've just noticed the ADD has just, you know, just the tension has kind of just gotten worse, but it definitely shows up in his blood sugar.
Scott Benner (7:03) Okay. (7:03) How old are you now?
Shannon (7:04) 45.
Scott Benner (7:05) 45. (7:05) It's upon you, the the change? (7:07) It
Shannon (7:08) is is upon me. (7:09) Mhmm. (7:10) Absolutely.
Scott Benner (7:10) How long have have you been, in the fight?
Shannon (7:14) I don't know. (7:14) I would say 40 was the downhill point. (7:17) Like, that's when it kind of all started. (7:19) And then definitely the last two years since we moved, and I don't know if it's, like, stress or or what. (7:24) But
Scott Benner (7:26) Sweaty? (7:26) Yeah. (7:27) Trouble sleeping? (7:28) Weight? (7:29) What's how's it getting you?
Shannon (7:30) Well, so I have Hashimoto's also. (7:32) I joke that in our family, it's, the Russian roulette of autoimmune diseases. (7:36) Which one are you gonna get? (7:37) And so mine is Hashimoto's. (7:39) And yeah.
Shannon (7:40) So, yeah, that definitely doesn't help with the weight. (7:43) I started taking the semaglutide shot, so that's helped.
Scott Benner (7:46) Awesome. (7:46) Have you lost the how long have you been doing the GLP?
Shannon (7:50) A year. (7:51) Just about a year, and I've lost 20 pounds, which I I'm not a I'm five three. (7:55) I'm not a large person. (7:57) I just wanted to get back to I really only need to lose, like, 20 pounds, but I just couldn't. (8:01) Like, I exercised every single day.
Shannon (8:03) I used my Peloton, and I just I couldn't it was just a pound here, another pound here, another pound here. (8:09) Kept coming. (8:10) And so yeah. (8:11) It just it would no matter what I did and I don't eat unhealthy, I need to drink more water. (8:16) That's my fault.
Scott Benner (8:17) But I'm laughing because I pulled out a cup this morning and I was like, I'm gonna fill this with water and then I didn't. (8:22) Can you tell me how much you weigh? (8:23) Is that too much?
Shannon (8:24) Yeah. (8:25) Well, now, I weigh one twenty two.
Scott Benner (8:27) One twenty Yeah. (8:29) Where you wanna be or getting close? (8:31) Yeah.
Shannon (8:32) Yeah. (8:32) No. (8:33) That's right. (8:33) That's I think that's perfect for me. (8:35) Like I said, I'm five three.
Shannon (8:36) So you put it on and there's not a lot for not a lot of places for it to go. (8:40) Yeah. (8:41) And so it just it was really starting to get to me. (8:44) So, you know, 20 pounds over two years.
Scott Benner (8:48) How would you say the GLP helped? (8:50) Was it with in your head? (8:52) Was it in your stomach? (8:53) Was it other ways?
Shannon (8:55) The food noise, for sure. (8:58) And then everybody talks about that, but, like, you're just hungry all the time. (9:02) I'm not as hungry anymore. (9:05) Mhmm. (9:05) But I will say and I don't know if everybody's like this or if this was just me.
Shannon (9:09) It is not a quick fix. (9:10) Like, it took me two months to lose five pounds. (9:12) And I was like, I'm not giving up. (9:14) I like I said, I was already for a year, I was already exercising and eating right, trying to drink more water. (9:21) But and I nothing.
Shannon (9:23) Like, I lost nothing. (9:24) And finally, I was like, I don't care. (9:25) I'm just gonna try this. (9:27) And, yeah, it just it just makes you not as hungry.
Scott Benner (9:30) I've been hungry once in, like, the last four months, I think. (9:33) And it's because I missed my shot. (9:35) I I talked about it recently on an episode. (9:37) I was driving home from somewhere, and I was like, god. (9:39) I think I'm getting sick.
Scott Benner (9:40) My stomach hurts. (9:41) And then it took me
Shannon (9:42) a turns out
Scott Benner (9:43) you're hungry? (9:43) Literally, it's like, oh god. (9:44) I'm gonna get sick. (9:45) Was like, have to go somewhere two weeks from now. (9:47) I hope that doesn't happen.
Scott Benner (9:48) And then, it then it hit me. (9:50) I was like, oh, I'm not sick. (9:51) This isn't nausea. (9:52) I'm hungry. (9:53) I didn't realize.
Scott Benner (9:54) I haven't felt hungry in so long. (9:56) I didn't I didn't really know what it was like. (9:58) So Yeah. (9:58) Yeah. (9:59) So I ate something and then remembered that I didn't give myself the injection.
Scott Benner (10:03) Where do you keep your TSH?
Shannon (10:05) Oh, I just had that drawn. (10:07) I just saw the results. (10:08) They just came in yesterday. (10:09) I wanna say it was, like, 1.5. (10:11) I will say, honestly, like, everything is in range, but I don't feel any better.
Shannon (10:15) I'm exhausted all the time. (10:17) And they're just like, I don't know.
Scott Benner (10:19) Well, have you have you asked the doctor about adding a Cytomil t three to it?
Shannon (10:23) So, yeah, that I was. (10:24) I was on oh, I'm on Synthroid now, and I was on liothyronine. (10:28) One of my physicians, like, put me on that because they said because and I also had a hysterectomy. (10:32) So they're like, oh, you had a hysterectomy, and you're over 40. (10:35) You can't convert the three to the four.
Shannon (10:36) I'm like, okay. (10:37) Whatever. (10:37) So they put me on the lyrothyronine, but just a small dosage of it. (10:41) And I'm I never felt any different. (10:42) I still don't.
Shannon (10:43) So then we moved here. (10:45) I will say the medical system, I think, overall, at least here, is, like, ten years behind. (10:49) So my PCP was like, why don't you just try the Synthroid and just see if that makes a difference? (10:54) I'm like, fine. (10:55) At this point, like, what is it?
Scott Benner (10:56) Shannon, stop. (10:57) They they were giving you t three but not t four?
Shannon (10:59) No. (11:00) Just the Loud Thyroid. (11:01) And that the
Scott Benner (11:02) I don't know that name. (11:03) Are you saying levothyroxine? (11:05) What what are you saying to me?
Shannon (11:06) No. (11:06) No. (11:06) No. (11:07) No. (11:07) Levothyroxine.
Shannon (11:08) So I call it Synthroid. (11:10) It's just easier to say.
Scott Benner (11:10) But Yeah. (11:11) Yeah.
Shannon (11:12) But the well, I can't find it now. (11:15) But no. (11:15) It's I don't know. (11:16) Liothyronine. (11:17) I thought it was the four.
Shannon (11:18) I thought that's what it was.
Scott Benner (11:20) Well, I'm trying to figure it out.
Shannon (11:22) I'd have to Google it.
Scott Benner (11:23) Yeah. (11:24) Liothyronine sold under the brand name, like, Cytema. (11:26) Okay. (11:26) Cytema. (11:26) You were taking Cytema.
Shannon (11:27) Oh, okay.
Scott Benner (11:28) But but this was the generic of it?
Shannon (11:30) Yes.
Scott Benner (11:31) And you took how much? (11:32) Would they give you? (11:33) 0.25?
Shannon (11:34) I should've asked me all those questions, wouldn't you?
Scott Benner (11:36) I mean, you know, you came on the podcast, not me.
Shannon (11:39) Yeah. (11:40) No. (11:40) Sorry. (11:41) Five mics.
Scott Benner (11:42) Oh, you were doing five, not two? (11:44) Okay.
Shannon (11:44) Yeah. (11:46) And seventy five of levothyroxine.
Scott Benner (11:49) And so your TSH is where they like it. (11:51) They hit you with the Citamen. (11:52) The Citamen didn't change anything for you.
Shannon (11:55) No. (11:55) And I even tried to double it. (11:57) I tried to I was like, let me try it for a little bit. (11:59) And I took 10, so I took two of the liothyronines.
Scott Benner (12:02) What are you, the nutty professor?
Shannon (12:04) I was like, listen.
Scott Benner (12:05) I wonder what two of these would do.
Shannon (12:06) It'll be fine.
Scott Benner (12:07) Honestly, if you took two of them and you didn't feel anything, I I that's pretty telling, actually. (12:13) Hey. (12:13) How's your vitamin d? (12:14) How's your iron?
Shannon (12:15) They checked both of those, but that's probably been closer to a year ago that they checked it. (12:20) My vitamin d is usually always low, but I've been really good about taking one every day. (12:24) Good. (12:24) So it's it's back in. (12:26) But and the iron, no.
Shannon (12:27) I never have a problem with, like, iron or my red blood cell count. (12:31) Like, I never have a problem with that.
Scott Benner (12:32) Do you happen to know where your fur tin is? (12:34) I know that's a weird question.
Shannon (12:36) You know, I will say they drew that because when I went to her, was like, draw it all. (12:40) I don't care. (12:40) Figure out why I'm so tired. (12:42) And because I remember you talking about that. (12:44) Like, you have to get infusions.
Shannon (12:45) Right?
Scott Benner (12:45) I don't anymore. (12:46) GLP fixed it.
Shannon (12:48) Oh, did it?
Scott Benner (12:48) Yeah. (12:49) Because my I think listen. (12:50) I'm guessing because, I have absolutely no medical background. (12:53) But I'm guessing what happened is as my digestion slowed down and things sort of going through me correctly, I'm actually now absorbing the nutrients that I'm eating. (13:02) So I have not had an iron infusion since I've been on a GLP.
Shannon (13:07) Interesting.
Scott Benner (13:07) Mhmm.
Shannon (13:08) Mhmm. (13:08) Well
Scott Benner (13:10) But I know you don't know it off top of your head, but go back and look at it at some point. (13:13) Okay?
Shannon (13:14) Yeah. (13:15) I know it was in range, whatever that is.
Scott Benner (13:16) Please don't worry about the range. (13:18) If your ferritin was under 70, like, you that might be your answer right there for being tired, especially and the lower it gets, they're still gonna tell you it's in range.
Shannon (13:28) I wrote that down. (13:28) I'll go back and look. (13:29) I'll log into that.
Scott Benner (13:31) Check into it. (13:31) Just I mean, it's worth looking into.
Shannon (13:33) Yeah.
Scott Benner (13:34) Like, because you're exhausted constantly?
Shannon (13:36) All the time.
Scott Benner (13:37) Yeah. (13:38) It's been your whole life or just recently?
Shannon (13:40) No. (13:40) Just since I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's, which was only been, like, four years ago.
Scott Benner (13:45) Okay. (13:45) Who else in your family has it?
Shannon (13:48) My dad has hyperactive thyroid. (13:50) They had hit he had his irradiated, and he also has type one.
Scott Benner (13:53) Okay.
Shannon (13:54) And his sister, my aunt, has type one. (13:57) My mom passed away of scleroderma, which is another autoimmune disease. (14:01) It's a terrible one.
Scott Benner (14:02) Wow.
Shannon (14:03) And I think I think that about sums it up.
Scott Benner (14:06) That about
Shannon (14:06) But yeah.
Scott Benner (14:06) That about sums it up. (14:07) Could be the episode title. (14:09) Yeah. (14:10) Alright. (14:11) Well, I would tell you, obviously, to keep after it.
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Shannon (16:42) Yeah. (16:43) I def I know I definitely see that. (16:45) And I thought, like, when we moved here, it'd be okay because I was switching to days. (16:48) I wasn't gonna do nights anymore. (16:49) Was like, I'll feel better.
Shannon (16:51) And that didn't really change very much, and it just seemed to, like, the older I get. (16:55) And then now I have a desk job, so I don't work bedside anymore. (16:58) And so then I was like, okay. (17:00) It's less stress. (17:01) Well, that wasn't it either.
Shannon (17:02) So, you know, it just it I I definitely see that it does. (17:06) It affects every aspect of your life.
Scott Benner (17:08) Hard to see it happening. (17:09) Yeah. (17:10) But it really, really does. (17:11) What else could we get you to try? (17:14) Here's a question.
Scott Benner (17:14) Have you had the COVID?
Shannon (17:17) Not recently.
Scott Benner (17:18) Is there any chance you have long COVID?
Shannon (17:21) Did I have what COVID?
Scott Benner (17:22) Long COVID?
Shannon (17:24) I don't know. (17:26) I had COVID. (17:27) I think it was last year. (17:28) Like, it was last I had the last time I think, actually, last time I had COVID was last December, so almost a year ago that I know of, that I was for sure tested.
Scott Benner (17:37) Yeah. (17:37) I mean, I don't know. (17:39) Long COVID's pretty specific of fatigue, post malaise, crashes after activity. (17:44) You ever get, like, real active and then it ruins you for a couple days?
Shannon (17:48) No. (17:48) No? (17:48) Mm-mm. (17:49) Okay.
Scott Benner (17:49) It's probably not that then. (17:50) But your menstrual cycles, well, you wouldn't know that they're they're dying anyway.
Shannon (17:55) Yeah. (17:55) Well, I don't know.
Scott Benner (17:56) Okay. (17:56) Alright. (17:57) Wait. (17:57) You had a hysterectomy?
Shannon (17:58) Oh, yeah. (17:59) You didn't yeah. (18:00) I well, I had said that at one point, but yeah. (18:02) Okay. (18:03) I said that was the beauty of having a hysterectomy.
Shannon (18:05) What's that? (18:05) That'll disappear. (18:06) Anymore.
Scott Benner (18:07) Tell me what made you wanna come back on the podcast.
Shannon (18:09) You had posted something about an update on one of the Facebook pages. (18:13) Like, if you had done a podcast or something like that, I don't I don't remember your wording. (18:18) And I had commented and I was like, oh, hey. (18:21) I was a crazy mom from Texas. (18:23) And I I don't remember what I said.
Shannon (18:25) Somebody replied back on the foot and said they would love to hear an update from me, and I was like, why? (18:31) But okay. (18:32) Sure. (18:32) I enjoyed talking with you. (18:33) It was fun.
Scott Benner (18:34) You made an impression on somebody. (18:35) Isn't that nice?
Shannon (18:36) I I guess I did. (18:38) So
Scott Benner (18:38) Somebody who was like, oh, I'm crazy too. (18:40) This is very comforting.
Shannon (18:42) Exact exactly. (18:43) If I can help one person.
Scott Benner (18:45) If I can
Shannon (18:45) help one.
Scott Benner (18:45) Okay. (18:46) So we're back. (18:46) So let's figure out what's happened since then. (18:48) I think we'll we'll start with you're worried about your son getting older and leaving for school and kinda work backwards. (18:55) So he's what at what point in high school now?
Shannon (18:58) He's a junior.
Scott Benner (18:59) What about him makes you worried?
Shannon (19:02) Nathan's a challenge. (19:04) I mean, he super sweet and funny kid. (19:06) I mean, he's hilarious. (19:07) But the ADHD and he's and he's 16. (19:12) I'm on I don't know.
Shannon (19:14) I assume this is normal for a 16 year old. (19:17) He just struggles with like, we'll go out of town with some friends for the day. (19:21) Like, we like to go to Gatlinburg, things like that for just for the day because it's literally, like, an hour away. (19:26) Mhmm. (19:26) And we'll leave him here, and he almost went to DKA one day.
Shannon (19:30) And because we were chipping with some friends, and I was like, Nathan, change your sight. (19:33) Nathan, change your sight. (19:34) Like, this isn't right. (19:35) I'm watching your sugars climb. (19:36) Nathan, he's like, eventually, did.
Shannon (19:38) And then there was something wrong with that one. (19:40) And I'm like, change it again. (19:41) He's like, no. (19:42) I don't want to. (19:43) I'm like, change it again.
Shannon (19:44) I don't really care. (19:44) And then that one was bent. (19:45) By the time I got home, his sugar had been high for, like, I don't even know, six hour. (19:50) His ketones were high. (19:51) He was about ready to throw up.
Shannon (19:52) It was just I was like, Nathan, like, come on, kid. (19:55) You know?
Scott Benner (19:55) Functionally, what happens there? (19:57) Is he unable to focus enough to do it? (20:00) Is he resistant, trying to exert some sort of, you know, singularity? (20:06) Like, what what's going on there?
Shannon (20:07) I think it's a little bit of both. (20:09) Like, resistance, I don't want to. (20:10) You know, I'm I'm busy. (20:11) It was a weekend. (20:12) You know?
Shannon (20:12) He was playing games or watching a movie or whatever. (20:15) It was doing something he wanted to do. (20:16) He didn't wanna stop. (20:17) I think that's part of the ADHD. (20:19) Like, I don't I don't wanna stop.
Shannon (20:20) I want to do this even though this is pressing at the moment. (20:24) Like, I don't want to. (20:25) And then, yeah, I'm I'm fine. (20:27) I've already given myself insulin, and, you know, I changed it. (20:30) He did.
Shannon (20:31) He changed it, like, twice, but I had to change it the third time when I got home because the second one was bent again. (20:36) And, you know, he felt like literal ass, and I told him, I said, go into my cabin and get the Zofran. (20:43) He got out the Pepto and took that. (20:45) I was like, well, that probably didn't help. (20:48) So it
Scott Benner (20:49) Did it occur to you to, like, do an injection?
Shannon (20:52) Oh, yeah. (20:52) He he did. (20:53) He had given himself. (20:54) I told him. (20:54) I was like, give yourself.
Shannon (20:55) So he he wasn't completely void of insulin at the time, but it still wasn't near enough. (20:59) You know? (21:00) He did. (21:00) I told him I was, like, seven units here, five units there, and he was doing shots in between. (21:05) I was like, we just changed the site.
Shannon (21:06) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (21:07) Is he by himself in that in that day?
Shannon (21:11) So no. (21:12) We usually have, my brother-in-law lives with us currently temporarily and then my father-in-law will come over and stay. (21:18) And so
Scott Benner (21:19) There were people there?
Shannon (21:21) Yeah. (21:21) Yeah. (21:22) Yeah. (21:22) Yeah. (21:22) There's adults.
Shannon (21:23) If he if he needed help, he he could have said I needed help, but he wants to do it himself also.
Scott Benner (21:28) Tell me a little bit about how the cannulas get bent.
Shannon (21:31) So we have our own process that, like, we put the infusion site in the freezer, and I, like, I will swear by this, is that I don't know. (21:39) I assume the physics is it makes it cold enough so when you insert it, it doesn't bend. (21:42) And it 98% of the time, it works beautifully. (21:46) But sometimes, he doesn't leave it in there long enough, so it's not quite cold enough. (21:49) Or he lets it sit out too long while he's, like, priming it or whatever.
Shannon (21:53) And then it it kinda warms back up. (21:55) And so and then I have also noticed when he inserts it, instead of just pushing once on the outside and then pulling it back off, then that's how it gets bent. (22:03) Because he sat there and, like, pushed on the applicator too many times, and that little, like, plunger will go in and out, and it will bend the cannula when he pulls it back out.
Scott Benner (22:11) Wanna say, first of all, I've never heard the freezer thing, and I I can't where did you hear that from?
Shannon (22:16) It's my claim to fame. (22:17) So, like, when we started on the t slim, like, a long time ago, I had a friend who had read that you put them in the in the refrigerator. (22:25) Well, like, I'm impatient, so the freezer's faster. (22:28) So that's why she said that, you know, put it in the refrigerator, it gets it cold and it won't bend. (22:33) So I just use the freezer because like I said, it's faster.
Scott Benner (22:36) I feel like it's incumbent upon me to say that I don't know if that's okay or not.
Shannon (22:39) So I mean
Scott Benner (22:40) Yeah. (22:41) I appreciate your ex sharing your experience.
Shannon (22:43) So he Do at your own risk.
Scott Benner (22:45) Yeah. (22:45) So he did the thing. (22:46) Does the ADHD come in there? (22:48) Like, you're saying he's pushing the the button too much or whatever. (22:50) He's pushing the applicator too much.
Scott Benner (22:51) Is that even him being impatient?
Shannon (22:53) Oh, for sure. (22:54) I'm sure of it. (22:55) Yeah. (22:55) Yeah. (22:55) Put or he puts it on too fast.
Shannon (22:57) He doesn't pull it straight back out, you know, because it's got that needle. (23:00) And if it's you pull it, like, if you pull it to the side, you're gonna bend it. (23:04) You you have to be push it on, pull it straight back off. (23:07) And
Scott Benner (23:08) That usage doesn't lend to his the way his brain works. (23:11) This happened a lot, or was it just a random thing that happened that day?
Shannon (23:14) No. (23:14) No. (23:14) No. (23:14) This is just a random thing. (23:15) This doesn't happen all that much because I'm generally there helping him with the sites and just, like, making sure.
Shannon (23:21) We we started a TikTok three or four years ago, and so, like, most of our content is this. (23:26) And so that's how I end up. (23:28) I'm just end up around him most of the time. (23:30) And so I ensure that, like, we put it in the freezer. (23:33) We do the process, all the things.
Scott Benner (23:34) Is this part of your nervousness because you know you're not gonna be around him?
Shannon (23:39) Oh, yeah. (23:39) Yeah. (23:40) Oh, yeah. (23:40) Some of it's controlling, I'm sure.
Scott Benner (23:43) Is he thinking of going to college?
Shannon (23:46) No. (23:47) He wants to go we have a technical school out here. (23:49) He wants to do heavy machine operator.
Scott Benner (23:51) Oh, that's perfect for somebody who can't concentrate.
Shannon (23:54) Yeah. (23:55) Yeah. (23:55) Yeah. (23:55) Isn't it?
Scott Benner (23:57) How'd that crane fall off of that bridge? (23:59) I don't know.
Shannon (24:01) Thanks for bringing that up. (24:01) I appreciate it.
Scott Benner (24:02) No problem. (24:03) Nathan got bored.
Shannon (24:04) I mean, I'm I'm really proud of him that event that now he has, like, at least picked something. (24:09) So he was at when we moved here, we put him in a small private Christian school, and we thought smaller class sizes. (24:15) He struggled in school. (24:16) He was diagnosed right before COVID. (24:18) And then then following year, COVID hit, and he was home he was home that fifth grade year.
Scott Benner (24:23) Yeah.
Shannon (24:23) He fell so far behind. (24:25) And, like, we tried desperately to catch him back up. (24:28) And so we thought, okay. (24:30) Smaller Christian school. (24:31) He got made fun of constantly for two years at that school, and he was on the edge.
Shannon (24:37) I I mean, he was threatening to beat kids up in the bathroom. (24:39) He was getting made fun of so bad. (24:42) And so finally, this year, we're like, alright. (24:43) I'm done. (24:44) This isn't this isn't any better.
Shannon (24:45) And we put him in the local public school, and they have tracks there that he can do. (24:51) And so he picked the, mechanic track.
Scott Benner (24:53) Okay. (24:54) Well, that's awesome.
Shannon (24:55) So I'm I mean, I'm glad I'm proud of him. (24:57) I'm glad he's found something that he likes, and that is it's motivating him.
Scott Benner (25:01) What would those kids pick on him for?
Shannon (25:03) Oh my god. (25:04) It was so bad. (25:05) I mean, they called him Diabito, which I know sounds really stupid, but it drove him crazy. (25:11) And this one kid who had a rough home life was going through a lot, just, I don't know, picked on Nathan. (25:19) It was they would mess with his devices, and that's one way to send that kid over the edge.
Shannon (25:22) I don't know if that's all type ones, but mess with his devices. (25:25) He will send you through the roof. (25:28) So they were taking his phone, and, you know, now we're in the days of they can't have phones at school. (25:33) And I know that doesn't apply to our kids, but he I know he knows he can have it, but then they all look at him. (25:39) And so it's just drawing attention that he doesn't want.
Shannon (25:42) Oh,
Scott Benner (25:43) that sucks.
Shannon (25:44) Yeah. (25:44) It's probably weird. (25:45) Was best. (25:46) I don't know. (25:47) Little punk kids.
Scott Benner (25:48) No kidding. (25:49) No. (25:49) So alright. (25:50) So you gotta move to a better place. (25:51) You found something he's enjoying.
Scott Benner (25:52) That's awesome. (25:53) Do you think he'll live at home for a while, or do you think I mean, do you think he's gonna, like, graduate from high school and just be gone, or do you think he'll be around for a bit?
Shannon (26:00) No. (26:01) I think he'll stay because here you get and Tennessee gives them two years of free, like, community college, and the technical college is included in that. (26:11) Nice. (26:11) And so, yeah, it's a huge benefit. (26:15) And so, no.
Shannon (26:16) I think it's, like, thirty, forty five minutes away from us here, and so, no. (26:20) I know he'll stay here through that.
Scott Benner (26:22) So what are you worried about then? (26:23) It sounds like he's not gonna be there he's gonna be there for four or five more years, it sounds like.
Shannon (26:27) Oh, probably. (26:28) But, you know, you still look like I don't know. (26:30) Is it just a mom thing? (26:31) Like, I look at it, I'm like, I feel like my time is getting shorter. (26:34) He's eventually going to be out on his own.
Scott Benner (26:37) No. (26:37) I understand the overall feeling of, like, you know, like, I only have so much time to get him to a place. (26:43) Is that how
Shannon (26:43) it feels? (26:43) Yes.
Scott Benner (26:44) Yeah. (26:44) Yes. (26:45) And you're not having a lot of success.
Shannon (26:47) No. (26:47) He doesn't wake up either. (26:48) I'm I need to get him that sugar was that Sugarpixel thing?
Scott Benner (26:51) Customtype1.com/juicebox. (26:54) I think I make a couple bucks if you buy one through that link, everybody. (26:57) I'm just saying.
Shannon (26:57) Do I do I get a discount?
Scott Benner (27:00) Well, I just said I get a couple bucks you don't get. (27:03) I mean, you get the sugar picks. (27:04) You get the sugar picks.
Shannon (27:06) Yeah. (27:06) Great. (27:06) Yeah. (27:07) No. (27:07) I I keep looking at them.
Shannon (27:08) I was like, I thought about it for Christmas, which I know that's a great Christmas present.
Scott Benner (27:12) But Yeah. (27:12) He'll be thrilled. (27:13) Awesome.
Shannon (27:14) Listen. (27:15) It's something unique.
Scott Benner (27:17) It's like the diabetes version of getting underwear for Christmas. (27:20) Like, awesome. (27:21) Just a sugar pixel. (27:22) Actually, I have one right here if you want it. (27:25) No.
Scott Benner (27:26) Yeah. (27:26) No. (27:26) I'm not giving it to I think I'm gonna use it for some, but I just
Shannon (27:30) That was rude.
Scott Benner (27:31) I'm sorry.
Shannon (27:32) Just take it. (27:35) You just dangle it like carrot. (27:36) You just yanked it back.
Scott Benner (27:38) I
Shannon (27:38) was like, wait.
Scott Benner (27:38) Are you serious? (27:39) Yeah. (27:39) I wanna goes to East Tennessee. (27:41) How am I gonna get it to you?
Shannon (27:42) It does. (27:42) No. (27:42) It does. (27:43) I'll pay to ship it.
Scott Benner (27:44) I actually don't know if I have I have one that's set up. (27:46) I'm wondering if I was sent to or not. (27:48) No. (27:49) I don't remember anymore. (27:49) I do know for sure that I'll get a couple of bucks if you buy one through my link, which again is customtype1.com/juicebox.
Shannon (27:55) Juice box. (27:56) Got
Scott Benner (27:56) it. (27:57) I wanna tell you something. (27:58) That's such a lovely thing because I it's not a thing I asked where they offered it to me, and I was like, yeah. (28:03) Sure. (28:03) Actually, I said no a couple of times.
Scott Benner (28:05) Just to all of you who think I'm, like, greedy. (28:07) I was like, no. (28:08) I'm like, I don't need that. (28:09) It's fine. (28:09) Like, I'll share your link.
Scott Benner (28:10) It's no big deal. (28:11) Like, I love the guy that runs the company and and and John. (28:14) I'm like, you know, but it's fine. (28:15) He goes, no. (28:16) He's like, you know, you're getting the clicks.
Scott Benner (28:17) Just take the money. (28:19) And I was like, okay. (28:19) Great. (28:20) So every once in a while, like, $25 will pop up on, like, my Apple Cash App card. (28:25) You know what I mean?
Scott Benner (28:26) Yeah. (28:27) Do you use your phone to pay for things?
Shannon (28:30) No. (28:30) Not really.
Scott Benner (28:31) Wrong with you? (28:31) Everyone, what is wrong with you?
Shannon (28:33) Well, I mean, I use PayPal,
Scott Benner (28:35) but No. (28:35) I mean, like, at the grocery store, like, you pay with your phone.
Shannon (28:38) No. (28:38) No. (28:39) I have a Samsung. (28:40) And, I mean, I have my credit card on there.
Scott Benner (28:41) I'm just trying to with your Samsung phone too?
Shannon (28:44) You can. (28:45) I can.
Scott Benner (28:45) You should do it. (28:46) It's awesome. (28:47) No. (28:47) That's not the point. (28:48) The point is the point is is that I have a number of cards.
Scott Benner (28:51) Like, I have, like, my bank card. (28:52) I have a credit card that's, a personal credit card. (28:56) I have a credit card for the, you know, for the business. (28:58) Like and and I have, like, a little cash card, and it gets loaded with, like, when I make a couple bucks from Custom Type one. (29:05) Every once in a while, I'll go to pay for something, and there'll be, like, $20 there.
Scott Benner (29:09) I'm like, oh, and it feels like I get something for free. (29:11) And then I think and then I have this, like, lovely moment where I I think of all of you. (29:15) And that's just a strange thing to say, but, like, sometimes I think, oh, I just got, like, you know, a gallon of milk and a stick of butter and, you know, a loaf of bread for free because everybody's so supportive. (29:25) And it feels nice, and I remember all of you, and I I I leave with my free milk. (29:29) Anyway It's nice.
Scott Benner (29:30) Yeah. (29:30) None of that's getting you this sugar pixel I may or may not have here. (29:33) But
Shannon (29:33) Okay. (29:34) It's fine.
Scott Benner (29:34) We did a giveaway at the thing we were at. (29:36) I think we gave, like, 10 of them away at Friends for Life, John did. (29:41) It was really nice. (29:42) Did you see that on our on what they call the social media?
Shannon (29:46) I I saw you were at Friends for Life, but, no, I don't think I saw.
Scott Benner (29:49) Yeah. (29:49) It was nice. (29:50) This is not the point either. (29:52) So please don't get that. (29:53) Just give them that, like, normally, don't get that as a Christmas present.
Scott Benner (29:56) My god. (29:58) So what what does he say about all this, Shannon? (30:00) Do you go to him and say, hey. (30:02) Listen. (30:02) I'm here's where I think you need to be.
Scott Benner (30:04) We, you know, we need to make some steps to get you there, or is that not how the relationship works?
Shannon (30:10) We have a very joking relationship. (30:14) You know, I don't I don't know how else to explain that. (30:16) Like, I mean, him and I are very similar personalities, and, like, we'll just go back and forth. (30:22) But most of the time, like, we're just laughing and cracking joke. (30:26) Mhmm.
Shannon (30:26) And so I think a lot of the times as far as, like, parental goes, and I'm like, I have to be like, okay. (30:31) Stop. (30:31) Like, I know you're joking, but I need you to do this. (30:34) And and so sometimes that kinda get that boundary kinda gets pushed. (30:38) Like, I can be completely honest and say that, like Yeah.
Shannon (30:41) I do give him way more. (30:43) Give him an inch. (30:44) That kid takes a mile. (30:45) So
Scott Benner (30:46) Have you ever tried? (30:47) And may I suggest trying, like, going out together by yourselves, maybe to a lunch or something, sit quietly somewhere and say, look, you know, just be you know, before the food comes out, you know, have a couple things I wanna talk to you about. (31:00) And, you know, and and say, these are I think should be goals. (31:04) I think we're doing great. (31:05) I think, you know, you're moving forward, etcetera.
Scott Benner (31:08) But I think we need to set some, you know, set some new goals and work towards them together because this is gonna become really important. (31:15) You're you're not gonna live here forever, and I don't want you to have to rush or feel pressured. (31:18) So I'd love to take this next four or five years and just make sure that, you know, by the time you're done living here that you, you know, you can take really great care of yourself and and be serious with them for a minute.
Shannon (31:30) Yeah. (31:31) No.
Scott Benner (31:31) Try it. (31:32) So and you'll get a lunch if nothing else. (31:34) Yeah.
Shannon (31:35) I know. (31:35) Right?
Scott Benner (31:35) What would you get at lunch? (31:37) Like a BLT with a fry, maybe?
Shannon (31:39) I don't know about a BLT.
Scott Benner (31:41) Wait. (31:41) No? (31:41) What what would you get? (31:42) Like, if you is there a diner near you? (31:44) First of all, I'm thinking about a diner.
Scott Benner (31:45) Is there a diner available?
Shannon (31:47) Oh, there is. (31:47) Yes.
Scott Benner (31:48) What would you get at the diner?
Shannon (31:50) Oh, I always get this sounds so boring, but I always get their chicken salad, like like salad mixed greens with chicken on it.
Scott Benner (31:57) Oh, I thought you're gonna say, like, a chicken salad sandwich, but no. (32:00) Like a
Shannon (32:00) No. (32:01) No. (32:01) No. (32:01) Like a salad with grilled chicken on it. (32:03) That's nice.
Shannon (32:03) Oh, they have these things here called Cheddar Oh my god. (32:07) They're amazing.
Scott Benner (32:07) Cheddar rounds?
Shannon (32:09) Cheddar rounds.
Scott Benner (32:10) Cheddar rounds. (32:11) What the hell are cheddar rounds?
Shannon (32:13) They're like tater tots, kind of, but they they're kind of, like, the shape of a quarter and, like, thicker. (32:19) So that way around, and they have cheese in them.
Scott Benner (32:23) Oh my god. (32:24) Is there a need to put cheese in something like that? (32:26) Delicious. (32:26) Isn't it already awesome? (32:27) Fried.
Shannon (32:28) Oh, no. (32:29) No. (32:29) It makes it better. (32:30) And dip it in some ranch. (32:32) Oh my god.
Shannon (32:32) So I always get side of their cheddar rounds with my salad. (32:35) So, you know, it balances.
Scott Benner (32:36) Well, I Shannon, I think we we've hit on something here. (32:38) This is really great news. (32:39) You're not really gonna have to wait or worry about five years from now. (32:42) You'll probably have a heart attack and be gone. (32:44) So
Shannon (32:45) I get a small order of cheddar rounds. (32:47) I told you I don't eat that bad. (32:49) I eat really well with some cheddar rounds, though. (32:52) Okay?
Scott Benner (32:52) You just told me you got deep fried potatoes with cheese inside of them.
Shannon (32:55) I don't get them often. (32:57) We don't go there that long.
Scott Benner (32:58) I'm just eating it. (32:59) So okay. (32:59) So you're
Shannon (32:59) judge me.
Scott Benner (33:00) I'm not just oh, look at these cheddar rounds. (33:04) Look at this. (33:04) They're very common. (33:06) I mean, at least the the Google found them. (33:08) No trouble.
Scott Benner (33:08) Pat's sudden service? (33:10) What does that even mean?
Shannon (33:11) Pals. (33:11) Pals. (33:12) Pals to pals.
Scott Benner (33:12) Oh, you know this.
Shannon (33:14) Yeah. (33:14) I told you it's Tennessee. (33:16) I mean, East Tennessee, specifically. (33:18) I don't know if there's pals other places, but, yes, we have pals everywhere. (33:21) I'm and I shouldn't say this on a podcast, but I'm not a huge fan of pals.
Shannon (33:25) Mhmm. (33:26) But cheddar rounds. (33:28) That's it.
Scott Benner (33:31) Sorry. (33:32) It made me laugh. (33:33) Are there a lot of them in Tennessee, Virginia?
Shannon (33:36) Yeah. (33:37) Yeah.
Scott Benner (33:38) My god, Tennessee. (33:39) They sprinkle them on you like like fairy dust. (33:42) They're everywhere.
Shannon (33:44) Yeah. (33:44) They're everywhere. (33:45) Yes.
Scott Benner (33:46) Wow. (33:47) What don't you like about it?
Shannon (33:49) The burgers are just kind of greasy, so I don't really like that.
Scott Benner (33:54) Do better, pals.
Shannon (33:55) Yeah. (33:55) But, I mean, everybody here loves it, and maybe that says something. (34:00) Uh-huh.
Scott Benner (34:00) Are they trying to the Pal's logo, are they trying to rip off the Bob's Burgers logo a little bit with the color and the and the font? (34:12) I
Shannon (34:14) don't know. (34:14) That's above my pay grade.
Scott Benner (34:16) Don't know Bob's No.
Shannon (34:18) I don't even know Bob's Burgers.
Scott Benner (34:19) Oh, Arden would be so disappointed if you don't know about Bob's Burgers.
Shannon (34:22) Bob's Burgers Yeah. (34:24) Logo. (34:25) I can Google it.
Scott Benner (34:26) See the color scheme and the
Shannon (34:27) They have these on their I don't know if you can see it online, they have these big burgers or big hot dogs that they sit on top of their restaurant. (34:36) And on my way to work every day, I drive down this, like, country Road, and there's just random pals hot dogs sitting on the side of the road that, like, somebody must have bought, and they just leave it there in on their property. (34:46) So
Scott Benner (34:47) First of all, I just wanna say I didn't mean ripped off. (34:49) Is it an homage to Bob's Burgers is what I should have said? (34:52) We're pretty far away from the point, but I think you should take the kid out, sit him down, and, like, talk to him. (34:57) I mean, you got other kids?
Shannon (35:00) Oh, yeah. (35:00) I have a 19 year old.
Scott Benner (35:02) How did it go with that one when you had to talk about important things? (35:06) God, did you not talk to him about anything?
Shannon (35:08) No. (35:08) No. (35:08) No. (35:09) No. (35:09) I do.
Shannon (35:09) I'm just thinking. (35:10) I mean No. (35:11) No. (35:12) We do. (35:12) He's just he's a very different kid.
Shannon (35:13) He's very quiet. (35:15) He doesn't say a lot. (35:16) It's like pulling teeth when you're talking to the older. (35:19) But he's still here too because he's going to school. (35:21) He is going for criminal justice, and he wants to go to the police academy, but you have to be 21.
Shannon (35:26) So he's 19. (35:27) So Okay. (35:27) He's here getting his associates in criminal justice. (35:30) So they're just very different kids. (35:32) Yeah.
Shannon (35:33) So Nathan, you kinda gotta, like, beat it into him. (35:35) You know?
Scott Benner (35:36) Because he forgets or because he's not concentrating? (35:39) And what do you do to manage his ADHD, if anything?
Shannon (35:43) Really? (35:43) Yeah. (35:43) No. (35:44) Nothing. (35:44) He's not on anything.
Shannon (35:45) He doesn't really like to take it. (35:47) And the point was is like, okay. (35:49) Well, we always told him that medication was a tool. (35:52) It is just a tool in your toolbox to help you focus, but you still have to put in the work. (35:56) That was the other part that a lot of his was choosing and behavior.
Shannon (35:59) Like, yeah, he was struggling paying attention, but he was also not helping the situation because he just didn't want to. (36:04) He hated school. (36:06) And so just pumping him up full of medicine was not what we wanted to do either. (36:10) Nobody wants to do that. (36:12) And then if there's no difference, like, he was still failing.
Shannon (36:16) And I was like, then what's the point? (36:18) So now he's got all a's and b's. (36:21) And, I mean, he's in a public school, so that might say something. (36:24) But Mhmm. (36:25) He's doing good.
Shannon (36:26) He's happy, and he's passing. (36:28) And so that was kind of I'm like, okay. (36:32) Well, that was the deal is if you stay, b's are higher. (36:35) He's working on getting his driver's license. (36:37) He has his permit.
Shannon (36:38) He has a car that's currently sitting out there that he can't drive yet, so he's gotta stay passing. (36:44) And that's kinda what we're working towards. (36:46) And so he seems to be working for that now. (36:49) So I'm hopeful we'll stay on that.
Scott Benner (36:50) You have two boys? (36:52) Mhmm. (36:52) Okay. (36:53) What about your husband? (36:54) Does he have any, sway over the kid?
Scott Benner (36:56) My dad would've just threatened me. (36:58) Did does your does your husband have a vibe? (37:00) What's he do?
Shannon (37:01) Yeah. (37:01) Oh, yeah. (37:02) Same thing.
Scott Benner (37:02) Threaten him. (37:03) She just do it. (37:04) Oh, yeah. (37:04) Okay.
Shannon (37:05) Just do it. (37:06) Yeah. (37:06) Listen to your mother. (37:07) Yes. (37:07) Yeah.
Scott Benner (37:08) Listen to your mother. (37:09) Hey. (37:09) If you don't do what she says, she's gonna complain to me. (37:12) So I need this to stop right now. (37:13) Is that about the vibe?
Shannon (37:15) Yeah. (37:15) Yes. (37:15) Pretty much. (37:16) Because then he gets tired of hearing it. (37:18) Because, you know, we we've had a battle with sneaking food.
Scott Benner (37:20) He's Oh.
Shannon (37:21) Doing much better with it. (37:22) Yeah. (37:23) That was a that was a huge deal back then when we originally talked. (37:26) And then we'd go back and forth where he would swear, I'm not sneaking. (37:29) I'm not sneaking, and we find out he was.
Shannon (37:31) And it was just a constant, especially on I mean, on any pump, really. (37:35) Like, we had a stint on the Omnipod five, and it just wasn't working because he was sneaking food. (37:40) So with any pump like that, it's just a struggle. (37:43) But he that was our main thing is I would find something he's sneaking, and I would go to Mike, and I'd be like, I'm gonna kill him. (37:49) I'm gonna kill him.
Shannon (37:49) And he would be he's like, I got it. (37:51) He would go in there.
Scott Benner (37:52) So it's not like he's sneaking food. (37:54) He's sneaking food and not bolusing for it.
Shannon (37:56) Oh, yeah. (37:57) Yes. (37:57) And I'm like, why?
Scott Benner (37:58) So, yeah, when you ask him now, what does he say?
Shannon (38:01) He says he doesn't know. (38:02) And I'm like, we don't restrict. (38:05) Now there might be times where we're like, not right now. (38:08) Like, your blood sugar's 200. (38:10) You know, we need to get it down.
Shannon (38:12) We'll have ice cream another night. (38:14) Or, like, you know, or can you eat these sugar free popsicles? (38:17) Or things like that. (38:18) We might be like, not now, but not ever. (38:20) So we're not restricting it.
Shannon (38:21) So Yeah. (38:22) That's why I'm like, I don't understand why. (38:24) Like, I'm just asking you to get what you want, and I bought these fancy scales that he can zero out the plate or the bowl and weigh it and scan the barcode and all the things, and it'll tell you exactly how many carb. (38:37) And
Scott Benner (38:37) You don't wanna do that?
Shannon (38:39) Yeah. (38:39) I'm like, I've given you all the tools. (38:40) I'm asking you to bolus. (38:43) Pick what you want, weigh it out, or measure it out, and bolus.
Scott Benner (38:47) I can't imagine Arden using that scale, by the way. (38:50) Like, I know what you're trying to do. (38:52) I'm sure it's cool to you. (38:53) You're old. (38:54) You think anything's cool that has electric in it.
Scott Benner (38:56) But, like, it's
Shannon (38:59) Two things. (39:00) Appreciate that. (39:01) You're old too.
Scott Benner (39:03) I didn't say I wasn't old. (39:05) I'm just saying that you I'm just saying you have, like
Shannon (39:09) I just thought I'd throw that out there.
Scott Benner (39:10) Yeah. (39:10) No. (39:11) No. (39:11) Yeah. (39:11) I appreciate that.
Scott Benner (39:11) Like, really, just hit me hard while I'm trying to trying to help poor Nathan here. (39:16) And, I I guess what I mean is all the time I hear people say, I made an app. (39:21) It's gonna help people with this. (39:22) We have a scale. (39:23) I'm like, none of this is gonna help anybody.
Scott Benner (39:25) Like, it's not in mass. (39:27) Like, there are gonna be people who have the scale and love it. (39:29) And if you're one of those people, calm down. (39:31) I'm sure you love your scale. (39:32) I'm sure it works awesome.
Scott Benner (39:33) And that's fine. (39:34) But most people aren't gonna do that. (39:37) Like, right Yeah. (39:37) Like, what helps most people is I mean, I I hate to say it, but I put it all on that podcast already. (39:43) Like, just you know, you gotta just do a couple of things.
Scott Benner (39:46) Right? (39:46) You gotta make sure your settings are right, understand how your food's gonna hit, pre bolus your meals. (39:49) That's pretty much the whole thing. (39:51) Yeah. (39:51) I haven't said this in a long time, but, I mean, the rest of the podcast is for fun.
Scott Benner (39:56) It's timing and amount. (39:57) That's the whole podcast. (39:58) The the podcast should be eight seconds long. (40:00) It should be like, hey. (40:01) Get the timing and the amount of your insulin right.
Scott Benner (40:02) You'll be fine.
Shannon (40:03) I've I've heard it. (40:04) I've heard it a time or two.
Scott Benner (40:05) Of course. (40:06) Of course. (40:06) And so to me, your goal is simple. (40:09) It's we're gonna let everything else go, but we're gonna pre bowls for food. (40:16) It's the one thing we're gonna focus on.
Scott Benner (40:18) Like, don't give him anything else to focus on. (40:21) Just have him pre bolus his meals. (40:23) And I bet you that changes things. (40:25) Like, what's his a one c like and his variability? (40:27) Where is he at?
Shannon (40:28) So his a one c stays between five four, 5.4, 5.3, somewhere in there, like, low fives. (40:37) We still have an issue at school. (40:39) I don't know if I've asked him, and we've tried to talk about it. (40:44) But from about 8AM, Monday through Friday till about 02:30, he stays over 200. (40:51) I've had to let some of it go.
Shannon (40:53) I've raised his settings. (40:53) He has a whole different school profile than he does for home because the home one is not near enough.
Scott Benner (40:58) Sucks because he's sitting around a lot. (41:00) What do you think it is? (41:00) Also, no one's listening anymore because you said 5354 and everybody's like, oh, this lady is crazy and they shut the podcast player off.
Shannon (41:06) Why? (41:07) Why? (41:07) What You're
Scott Benner (41:08) over here complaining like, this is it's upside down. (41:10) Nothing's gonna be okay. (41:11) Everything's a mess. (41:13) I mean, the kid's probably gonna die soon. (41:15) What's this a one c?
Scott Benner (41:16) It's a 53.
Shannon (41:17) 53.
Scott Benner (41:18) You are crazy. (41:19) No wonder I called you crazy last time.
Shannon (41:21) I told you I can own a level of crazy, but listen. (41:24) Let me let me say this.
Scott Benner (41:25) Go ahead.
Shannon (41:26) He used to be high fours, and I was obsessed with keeping him between 80 to 90. (41:32) Now how freaking realistic is that? (41:33) It's not. (41:34) So I've come a long way because now I look at it. (41:37) Well, now I'm on my phone, so I can't really see what his sugar is.
Shannon (41:39) But he was before you connected. (41:41) He was two thirty.
Scott Benner (41:43) I'm sorry. (41:43) I've been laughing the whole time you're talking. (41:45) You used to be four what? (41:47) Four eight?
Shannon (41:49) He was, like, four eight.
Scott Benner (41:50) What was he eating?
Shannon (41:51) Four point eight. (41:52) No. (41:52) We were compensating with Lowe's because he was sneaking. (41:55) So I was constantly carrying insulin at him. (41:57) So yeah.
Shannon (41:57) No. (41:58) No. (41:58) He we he had, like, crazy Lowe's. (42:00) That's the only reason his a one c was so low.
Scott Benner (42:02) And what about now?
Shannon (42:03) Now we are better on the Lowe's. (42:05) It's just most of the time, it's like dinner boluses sometimes where, you know, all boluses, and then I'm like, k. (42:11) Get what you want, Nathan. (42:13) And then, of course, inevitably, he comes back, and he wants more, and he wants this, and he wants that. (42:17) And I'm, like, throw and I'm like, or
Scott Benner (42:18) He's hungry. (42:19) He's growing.
Shannon (42:20) Yes. (42:21) And so then he sometimes I'm like, oops. (42:23) That was too much. (42:24) And so it's usually it's usually a food bolus miss.
Scott Benner (42:28) What's his percentage of time under 70 now?
Shannon (42:30) Oh, for Lowe's, you mean oh, just it's a low percentage.
Scott Benner (42:34) Is it 5%, 4%?
Shannon (42:36) No. (42:37) I would say less than that.
Scott Benner (42:38) Two one?
Shannon (42:39) Yeah. (42:40) One or two?
Scott Benner (42:40) This is an honest to god five four. (42:42) He's not achieving it with a bunch of lows. (42:43) It's offsetting the
Shannon (42:45) Correct.
Scott Benner (42:45) Okay.
Shannon (42:46) Correct. (42:47) It's the highs though that are like I mean, like I said, Monday through Friday, and I kid you not. (42:51) And he's he's 200, 300. (42:53) And I'm like, what are you doing? (42:55) He's like, it's English, mom.
Shannon (42:56) And I'm like, it can't be English, Nathan.
Scott Benner (42:58) Could is he bad at English? (43:00) Maybe he's, got the adrenaline. (43:02) Don't know. (43:02) He a hot girl in English or a hot guy? (43:05) Don't know if your kid's a guy or not.
Scott Benner (43:06) You see what I'm saying?
Shannon (43:06) I heard there was a girl. (43:07) No. (43:07) No. (43:08) No. (43:08) I heard there was a girl in a class.
Shannon (43:09) And I but he he doesn't wanna tell me all the details about which class she's in. (43:15) But I'm like, it's gotta be anticipation for the girl kid. (43:17) And he's like he's like, I don't know, mom. (43:20) So he's like, no. (43:21) It's English.
Scott Benner (43:21) Okay. (43:22) So so when his it's English. (43:25) I don't understand commas, it makes me very upset my blood sugar goes up.
Shannon (43:28) Yes. (43:28) It does.
Scott Benner (43:29) Yeah. (43:29) Okay.
Shannon (43:30) I think it's more about dumb.
Scott Benner (43:32) I think it's more about this girl.
Shannon (43:33) But That's what I say.
Scott Benner (43:34) It happens every day, no fail?
Shannon (43:36) Every day.
Scott Benner (43:37) Yeah. (43:37) Why don't you bowl us for it?
Shannon (43:39) Oh, we do. (43:40) And so, like, for breakfast, I thought, okay. (43:42) Well, let's stick with easy stuff for breakfast. (43:45) So he does, like, sausage and eggs or and just and or egg. (43:49) And he'll bowl us for the eggs, like, 10 grams of carbs for eggs.
Scott Benner (43:52) You're making
Shannon (43:53) me hungry? (43:53) Like, two. (43:56) Sorry. (43:57) So he'll eat, like, two eggs and bolus 10 for or he'll like, three sausage links and bolus 10 for them.
Scott Benner (44:03) Yeah.
Shannon (44:03) And he's fine. (44:05) So at set off the top of my head, I'm trying think what his settings are. (44:08) 06:30 or seven. (44:09) I raise his bowl his, sorry, basal from 1.1 to 1.8. (44:14) So, like, two hours before he spikes, I'm giving him a a lot more insulin.
Shannon (44:18) And I lower his correction factor in the t slim to, like, one to 20 when he's normally, like, one to 25. (44:23) And 08:00, like clockwork. (44:27) He's, like, straight r up, like, 01:50. (44:29) Then he's double r o up, two thirty.
Scott Benner (44:32) Is there a chance he's eating something else on the way to school? (44:34) Is he, like, the sausage just suck,
Shannon (44:35) but this thing No. (44:36) He says they get free breakfast and lunch, and I told him, I was like, I need you to stop with the breakfast
Scott Benner (44:41) because he's making it worse. (44:41) Two breakfasts?
Shannon (44:42) Well, but he was bolusing for them. (44:44) But I said, hey. (44:45) Can you, like, cut back on the can we not do the breakfast? (44:47) Like, you can bolus for the lunch at school, but can we not do breakfast? (44:50) And he said, fine.
Shannon (44:51) So he says, no. (44:51) He's only been eating the sausage or the eggs
Scott Benner (44:53) at home.
Shannon (44:54) And then
Scott Benner (44:54) That second breakfast, he's bolusing while he was eating, you know, if you're Oh, yeah. (44:59) If you're lucky. (44:59) Right. (45:00) So that's the arrows up thing.
Shannon (45:02) But now he's not.
Scott Benner (45:03) Two things. (45:04) First of all, someone should congratulate you because you you obviously really understand this diabetes thing. (45:10) So good for you. (45:11) No. (45:12) It's seriously obvious that you threw yourself into it.
Scott Benner (45:14) You have a lot of understanding about it. (45:16) And I get that you're having what they might call it, about what you think is, like, the loss of this thing that you accomplished, I'm I'm guessing. (45:24) So So you're doing a great job. (45:26) You're probably, I'm guessing, feeling a little bit of a loss. (45:29) Like, you, like, accomplished this thing.
Scott Benner (45:31) I'm gonna share with you, Sean. (45:32) I had had the same feeling because I know if we do the thing and the thing and the thing and we do it like I say to do it, I do it the way I know to do it, that your a one c is boom. (45:42) It's right here. (45:43) Five five. (45:44) We're all done.
Scott Benner (45:45) That's how I see Arden, like, my whole life. (45:47) Right? (45:47) If she'd shut the hell up and do what I told her, she'd have a five five. (45:52) Right? (45:52) But that's not really how things work, and you don't want them to work that way.
Scott Benner (45:56) Like, at some point, that kid is gonna live by himself. (46:01) Yeah. (46:01) That hot girl is gonna do something stupid and say yes to him. (46:05) And then the next thing you know, like, her life's gonna be ruined and they're gonna live together and and, like Oh,
Shannon (46:10) stop. (46:11) I need you to stop.
Scott Benner (46:12) You know it's gonna happen. (46:14) Right? (46:14) You hope it's gonna happen. (46:15) Oh
Shannon (46:16) my god.
Scott Benner (46:16) Look how happy you are with Mike. (46:18) Don't you want that for Nathan?
Shannon (46:19) Eventually. (46:20) Yeah.
Scott Benner (46:20) See? (46:21) Okay. (46:22) So that's all gonna happen one day. (46:24) He needs to have that time think about it like this. (46:28) Wouldn't you rather him have a two thirty blood sugar now where you're around and can continue to help guide him so that one day when he'll never tell you his blood sugar ever again, you know that he knows what to do.
Scott Benner (46:44) Right?
Shannon (46:45) I hope he doesn't ever not tell me his blood sugar.
Scott Benner (46:47) Well, yes, you do.
Shannon (46:49) I'm kidding. (46:49) Yeah. (46:49) No.
Scott Benner (46:50) I know.
Shannon (46:50) Yeah. (46:50) You don't want I'm gonna follow him until the day I die.
Scott Benner (46:53) Yeah. (46:53) Because I'll tell you what. (46:54) If he's 40 years old still telling his mom his blood sugar, those kids from the Christian Academy are gonna find him and pick on him again.
Shannon (47:00) Yeah. (47:01) They are.
Scott Benner (47:01) Yeah. (47:01) They're gonna be like, hey, mama's boy. (47:03) How's it going?
Shannon (47:04) Absolutely. (47:05) I know.
Scott Benner (47:06) Colonoscopy yet? (47:07) Because we're 50. (47:08) I
Shannon (47:11) know that's the goal. (47:12) I understand that.
Scott Benner (47:14) Yeah. (47:14) Who knew those Christian kids were so mean? (47:16) Are they all Christians, or it's just a Christian school? (47:18) Like, is your kid a Christian?
Shannon (47:20) Me yes. (47:20) But it's just a Christian school.
Scott Benner (47:22) Oh, so it could have been anybody in there.
Shannon (47:24) Yeah. (47:25) And that yeah. (47:27) I know you pay tuition, but usually, in our experience, the schools that we had gone to prior to that, you know, they usually have some sort of rules, and they don't generally tolerate that kind of behavior. (47:37) Usually, this place didn't tolerate that kind of behavior.
Scott Benner (47:40) So I can't tell you how disappointing I find it that there are non Christians in a Christian school. (47:44) Why are they calling it a Christian school? (47:46) Like, it would be like if I went to an Indian restaurant, they were like, here, would you like a cheeseburger? (47:49) I'd be like, this is a fucking Indian restaurant. (47:51) Like, what are you doing?
Scott Benner (47:52) I want Indian food. (47:53) That's why I'm here. (47:54) I don't know. (47:55) Nevertheless Yeah. (47:57) No.
Scott Benner (47:57) So back to being serious. (47:59) I love your ADD. (48:00) It makes it so easy to talk to you.
Shannon (48:01) Thank you. (48:02) I appreciate it. (48:04) I always like to consider myself I blame my husband, though, for the kids. (48:08) It's not me. (48:08) It's him.
Shannon (48:10) I'm like, this is you right here. (48:12) This is you.
Scott Benner (48:12) Oh, the ADHD thing?
Shannon (48:15) Yes.
Scott Benner (48:15) Oh, well, didn't you realize it when you were dating him?
Shannon (48:18) That he had ADHD?
Scott Benner (48:19) None of you girls look at us and realize that our kids are gonna be like us and then make better decisions? (48:25) How does this not happen?
Shannon (48:25) No. (48:26) I don't know. (48:27) But I look back now, and I was like, I'm like, oh my god. (48:30) These are you and your brother. (48:32) You know?
Shannon (48:33) Okay. (48:33) So, like
Scott Benner (48:34) Sean, let me explain the world to you. (48:36) You're all all you ladies. (48:37) You're in charge. (48:39) You get that you have all the fun, soft parts. (48:41) You make all we'll do anything you say.
Scott Benner (48:44) If you're filled with, like, self doubt, don't be. (48:46) Go pick the exact guy you want and go for that. (48:49) You'll get him easy. (48:50) What were you, like, giving in? (48:51) You're like, oh, this one seems dippy, but whatever.
Scott Benner (48:54) Like, I I don't know. (48:55) And but I'm sure Mike's nice. (48:56) I'm not saying that. (48:57) But, like, you you guys are in we'll do anything that we're told in exchange for sex. (49:03) Do you not understand?
Shannon (49:04) I don't know that all guys are like that, though. (49:06) I think What
Scott Benner (49:07) are you talking about?
Shannon (49:09) Yeah. (49:09) I don't know. (49:10) I don't think I mean okay. (49:11) Don't get me wrong. (49:12) I love my husband, but he's he's stubborn.
Shannon (49:14) He's gonna do it his way, come hell or high water, you know.
Scott Benner (49:17) I'm just You're doing like it wrong. (49:18) Maybe.
Shannon (49:20) I mean
Scott Benner (49:22) I'm comfortable saying if you made me a reasonable attractive woman, I could set my life up the way I wanted it. (49:29) That's all I'm saying.
Shannon (49:29) I mean, I'm kinda committed to this guy,
Scott Benner (49:32) you know.
Shannon (49:32) I mean, it's a lot of work to retrain him.
Scott Benner (49:35) Well, it doesn't sound like you did a great job the first time.
Shannon (49:37) Just wanna say. (49:37) Apparently not. (49:38) But I don't wanna do it again.
Scott Benner (49:39) So Oh, god. (49:40) Can you imagine? (49:42) Arden's like I know I've said this on here before. (49:44) Arden's always like, if mom dies Kelly loves what when she says that in front of her, she'll say, when mom dies, I see you with an Indian lady. (49:52) She says it to me all the time.
Scott Benner (49:53) Nobody understands why or where it came from, but she says it the time. (49:56) And I'm like, okay. (49:57) Whatever. (49:57) That's fine with me. (49:58) And I was like, Kelly, I'm sure you won't die first.
Scott Benner (50:01) And, like, you know, everybody makes a face and everything. (50:03) But the truth is is when Kelly dies, I'm out of this. (50:07) If Kelly Riddle passed away before me, like, you think I wanna get involved in this again?
Shannon (50:11) Oh, no.
Scott Benner (50:12) No way. (50:13) No way. (50:16) Way. (50:17) I maybe would find a sad lady who is in the same situation I was in. (50:21) I'd say, listen.
Scott Benner (50:22) Like, once a week, you wanna bump our genitals into each other? (50:26) We don't need to talk or even, like, like each other. (50:29) Like, just get another lady in that situation. (50:30) She'd probably be like, yeah. (50:32) Why not?
Scott Benner (50:32) You know what I mean? (50:33) Like, we do it like that. (50:34) Or maybe prostitution. (50:36) I don't know. (50:37) But, like, I'm not No.
Shannon (50:38) Don't do that.
Scott Benner (50:39) What? (50:39) Don't do that.
Shannon (50:41) Don't do that.
Scott Benner (50:41) It's legal in Vegas. (50:42) Why do think all those old guys moved to Vegas?
Shannon (50:44) Oh, no. (50:45) Do you know how many diseases? (50:47) No.
Scott Benner (50:47) No. (50:47) I'm joking. (50:48) Obviously.
Shannon (50:49) Yeah. (50:49) No.
Scott Benner (50:49) Do I seem like they're going to a prostitute kinda guy to you? (50:52) No. (50:52) No.
Shannon (50:52) No. (50:53) No. (50:53) No. (50:53) No. (50:53) That's what I'm just saying.
Shannon (50:54) Like, I don't
Scott Benner (50:55) get that. (50:56) Trying to make the bigger point of, like, I don't wanna get involved with, like, another relationship. (51:01) So, I mean, I put so much effort into this one. (51:03) It didn't go that well. (51:04) Like, she's very difficult.
Shannon (51:11) She's very difficult.
Scott Benner (51:12) I'm very difficult too, I imagine.
Shannon (51:15) Yeah.
Scott Benner (51:15) I wouldn't know, though, because for my personality, I'm perfect.
Shannon (51:18) You're great. (51:19) I know. (51:20) That's what I say.
Scott Benner (51:21) I get along with me. (51:22) Awesome.
Shannon (51:23) Just fine. (51:24) What
Scott Benner (51:26) are you gonna do to help yourself be a little less crazy, use these next few years in a way that's, you know, valuable for you and for him, and put him in a position where he is gonna be comfortable taking care of himself and you're gonna be comfortable that he's okay?
Shannon (51:43) What am I gonna do?
Scott Benner (51:44) Mhmm.
Shannon (51:45) That's a good question. (51:47) No. (51:47) No. (51:47) No. (51:47) I mean no.
Shannon (51:49) Well, I mean, we're continuously working on it, and I will sit down and have a serious conversation with him. (51:56) Yeah. (51:57) And it's not that we don't talk. (51:58) Like, I don't wanna that sounds bad. (52:00) It's not that we don't ever talk about serious things.
Scott Benner (52:02) I don't think he's locked in a closet and you pull him
Shannon (52:04) out to feed him or anything like that. (52:05) Yeah. (52:05) No. (52:05) It's just, you know, I I don't know. (52:07) Sometimes life and just busyness and things just kinda get in the way.
Shannon (52:10) But no. (52:11) I mean, we do absolutely talk and and set but it's it's not ever, like, we set a specific a specific time apart and just been like, okay. (52:19) This is what we're gonna do, and that's what we're gonna talk about it. (52:21) It's more of, like, I'll walk in there, and I'm like, hey. (52:24) We need to talk.
Shannon (52:24) We need to fix this. (52:25) Like, it's not it's not I
Scott Benner (52:27) said to Arden recently. (52:28) I'm like, hey. (52:28) We should go out and get lunch. (52:29) And she goes, oh god. (52:30) Are you gonna bring up my thyroid medication?
Scott Benner (52:32) I was like, probably. (52:33) And she goes, I don't wanna go to lunch then. (52:35) I'll feel trapped. (52:36) And I was like, too bad. (52:37) That's the only way we're gonna have this conversation.
Scott Benner (52:39) I bring this up, and I'm not the I'm not calling you out. (52:41) I'm not trying to make you feel bad, Sean. (52:43) I'm trying to point out to everybody listening that what you just said is the truth. (52:47) Life. (52:48) Right?
Scott Benner (52:48) No one it's nice to say, and we can all go read a book by some crunchy lady who tells you, like, the right way to live and everything like that. (52:57) Like and and she's not wrong. (52:59) The crunchy lady in the book's right. (53:01) But that's not what happened. (53:03) Right?
Scott Benner (53:03) And so I Yeah. (53:04) Saying, I think you have to thoughtfully set some time aside to have an actual conversation where we're not joking around or he's not playing a video game or he's not looking at his phone or you're not mad at Mike or, like, whatever else is going on and sit and just say for five seconds, look. (53:19) I love you. (53:20) I know you're a great person, and you're gonna be fine, but there are some things we're gonna have to do. (53:26) We don't wanna leave this to chance.
Scott Benner (53:28) We do not wanna be, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it kinds of people. (53:33) Like, let's figure out where the bridge is, how to get across it, make a plan so that when it comes up one day, you just breeze across and everything's fine. (53:40) I think that we all believe it's just going to happen in the normal course of life. (53:46) But what I think is that the normal course of life stops those things from happening. (53:51) That makes sense?
Shannon (53:51) Oh, absolutely. (53:52) Yeah. (53:52) Yeah. (53:53) No. (53:53) I agree completely.
Shannon (53:55) I will say, and this is maybe somewhat unrelated but slightly related, we do send him to camp every summer, and he does and I've listened to all your Sweeney one. (54:03) We send him to Sweeney, and I will say that it's it's made a huge impact on him. (54:09) And it's time away for him that I'm not, like, hovering over him. (54:12) And don't get me wrong. (54:13) I do call the med staff, and I'm like, hey.
Shannon (54:14) How's the sugar? (54:15) And then that's it. (54:16) That's it. (54:16) I call, like, once once a drive. (54:17) And then I'm like, I let it go.
Shannon (54:19) And he's on his own, and he even says to me, he's like, I feel free there That, like, I still have diabetes, and it doesn't go away. (54:26) Like, he obviously can't get away from diabetes. (54:28) But when he goes there, he just feels like it's less of an a burden.
Scott Benner (54:33) Good.
Shannon (54:34) And so it gives him his own space. (54:36) He has his own friends there, and, like, they help him. (54:40) And, you know, sometimes coming from other people or he's met counselors or people there that have made an impact on him. (54:47) And, you know, it's different than just mom or dad. (54:50) You know?
Shannon (54:51) So he's only got two more.
Scott Benner (54:53) He's only got two more years where he can go to camp?
Shannon (54:55) Yeah. (54:56) Yeah. (54:56) Because then he ages out.
Scott Benner (54:57) That's okay. (54:57) I mean, that's still they're great experiences. (54:59) And, let me interject right here because you brought it up. (55:03) I will be giving away four more places at Camp Sweeney this coming year.
Shannon (55:08) Oh, that's great.
Scott Benner (55:09) Yeah. (55:09) Free trips to Camp Sweeney, which is what? (55:11) They're almost three weeks long. (55:12) Right? (55:13) The camp?
Scott Benner (55:14) Yeah. (55:14) I think it's a savings to the person who wins the giveaway of, like, over $4,000. (55:20) And I made possible by our good friends at Asensia Diabetes and Camp Sweeney. (55:26) Camp Sweeney offered some slots at a discount, and I was able to talk to a a lovely man that I've worked with for years at Contour, the Contour Next Gen. (55:36) Contournext.com/juicebox.
Scott Benner (55:38) Support them by get a meter for yourself because they're gonna cover the difference for every kid. (55:44) Anyway, I'm I'm excited to do that because I sent some kids last year. (55:48) I had one on the show already to talk about his his experience there. (55:52) I think for the right person, camp is an overwhelmingly positive experience, with a lot of a lot of, forward looking value. (56:01) So, thanks to Kontoor and Cam Sweeney, and and I just want to say that.
Scott Benner (56:06) You'll be hearing about that soon, I think.
Shannon (56:08) Yeah. (56:09) Yeah. (56:09) Yeah. (56:09) Yeah. (56:09) No.
Shannon (56:10) I mean, it's it's been great, and it's a break. (56:14) I don't mean this in a bad way, so don't come at me, but it's a kind of a break for us too. (56:18) Because as as caregivers, it's overwhelming. (56:20) And sometimes there there's caregiver burnout, and so it's you know, he's having a blast. (56:25) So I know he's in a great place.
Shannon (56:28) And then Yeah. (56:29) We can kind of, like, breathe for a minute. (56:31) And he can he's even said the same thing that, like, he feels like he can breathe. (56:35) Like, I I don't know. (56:37) I don't it's just it's a great not a crazy
Scott Benner (56:39) lady there telling him about his diabetes all
Shannon (56:41) the time. (56:41) No. (56:41) Yeah. (56:41) Listen. (56:42) Okay?
Shannon (56:43) It's my job, and I do it well.
Scott Benner (56:45) It does sound like you do it well. (56:46) Also, I wouldn't come at you for saying that you need a break from your kids. (56:49) Everyone needs a diabetes or not, like everybody needs a break from everything sometimes. (56:54) You know? (56:54) Especially Yeah.
Scott Benner (56:55) Yeah. (56:55) Parenting is such a deal, really. (56:57) Right? (56:58) Because you get you get this little thing, and you love it, hopefully. (57:01) And then Yeah.
Scott Benner (57:02) You know? (57:02) And it's cute, hopefully. (57:03) And and, you know, you think it's cute even if it isn't. (57:05) So that's, like, a nice benefit of of nature.
Shannon (57:08) I know. (57:08) We we all think no. (57:09) When Noah was born, god bless him, he had the biggest cone head, my oldest, and he was jaundiced. (57:14) And so, like, my friend helped and did, like, newborn pictures for him, and I thought it was the cutest thing ever. (57:20) And I look back, and I'm like, you look like a yellow Oompa Loompa.
Scott Benner (57:23) They think that's, nature that keeps you from killing it when it first comes out. (57:27) Yeah.
Shannon (57:27) Yeah. (57:27) It does. (57:28) And I'm like, why did I do that to you? (57:30) I should have never done those newborn pictures. (57:31) Like, you you looked terrible.
Shannon (57:33) I should have waited until you weren't so jaundiced.
Scott Benner (57:35) But no. (57:36) But that's a great point. (57:37) Like, anyway, everyone loves their kid. (57:38) Everything's it's gonna be great, And it it generally is. (57:41) But our lifestyles here and and, you know, all over the world, it doesn't really matter.
Scott Benner (57:45) Like, your lifestyle leads to repetition and responsibility or strife, whatever your life ends up being. (57:53) And you never get to put the actual kind of effort into parenting that you want. (57:58) And so that instead of you know how I say, like, if you just put a little bit of effort into diabetes in the right places, it'll stop you from, you know life's like that too, but, like, again, good luck getting that accomplished. (58:09) Just like good luck with the diabetes part. (58:11) Like, you have to be so purposeful about it to get it done.
Scott Benner (58:16) And then what happens? (58:16) You get older, you get more tired. (58:18) Last night so I haven't slept well the last couple nights. (58:22) Apple screwed up my podcast, so I've had to stay up into the middle of the night to post it every night for you guys. (58:28) You're welcome.
Scott Benner (58:28) So I'm not mad at you. (58:30) I'm mad at Apple, not you. (58:32) And so I'm exhausted, like like, really genuinely exhausted, but still get up and do my job and be a person and do all the other stuff. (58:39) And yesterday, Cole's super excited. (58:42) Like, the three of us, Cole, Arden, and I are watching a TV show together, and new episode's out.
Scott Benner (58:48) Cole's like, hey. (58:48) I'm gonna go get a shower, come back down. (58:50) We're gonna watch this. (58:51) I'm like, right on. (58:51) Like, I got all my stuff done.
Scott Benner (58:53) I work on this dumb podcast till, like, eight, 09:00 at night every day. (58:56) So I'm like, I'm I'm almost finished with what I'm gonna do. (58:59) And, like, we all, like, Arden's studying for midterms. (59:02) Like, we all kinda, like, go to the sofa. (59:04) Arden's studying for midterms.
Scott Benner (59:05) That that dog is there. (59:07) And I'm there. (59:09) Cole's like, he can hear the shower shut off. (59:11) I'm like, oh, Cole will be down in a couple minutes. (59:12) I just fell asleep.
Scott Benner (59:14) I was like, unbelievable. (59:16) 09:00. (59:19) And I'm saying, you want me to be a dad? (59:21) I can barely stay up.
Shannon (59:22) Yeah. (59:23) Know, I go ahead. (59:24) Past nine. (59:24) I I know. (59:25) 09:00, 09:30.
Shannon (59:27) I'm out.
Scott Benner (59:27) Point is terrible. (59:28) Going on. (59:30) The stuff the really important stuff is the is the first stuff that gets dropped, and that's why you have to be more purposeful about doing it. (59:36) So for all of you, not just Shannon, like, you gotta have these conversations. (59:39) You gotta find time, and you can't just slip them in where they fit.
Scott Benner (59:43) I think that's where you end up with, hey. (59:45) Come here. (59:45) I gotta tell you something. (59:46) You gotta bolus. (59:48) You know what I mean?
Scott Benner (59:48) Like, that's not how you wanna have that conversation. (59:52) That's all. (59:53) Absolutely. (59:53) Everyone go be perfect. (59:54) It'll be fine.
Shannon (59:56) Yeah. (59:56) You'll be fine.
Scott Benner (59:57) I'm not by the way, I'm not saying I'm perfect. (59:59) I'm saying good luck trying to find perfection. (1:00:01) But there's some, like, small decisions that we could all make that would make these things go easier, I think. (1:00:06) Yeah. (1:00:07) How'd we do?
Scott Benner (1:00:07) What are you thinking about this?
Shannon (1:00:10) No. (1:00:10) I think it's good.
Scott Benner (1:00:11) You felt okay this conversation?
Shannon (1:00:13) Yeah. (1:00:14) Yeah?
Scott Benner (1:00:14) Do you see how I, like, lovingly pivoted from prostitution to sending kids to camp like it was nothing?
Shannon (1:00:21) Nothing. (1:00:21) Yes. (1:00:22) No. (1:00:22) I appreciate that because I don't know how you ended up there, but that's fine.
Scott Benner (1:00:26) Well, I like to think I'm open minded, but I'm sure people listening are like, well, you probably have ADHD, you freaking idiot. (1:00:33) Do you not see connections between things that you find sometimes other people don't see?
Shannon (1:00:38) What do you like like that? (1:00:39) Like, the prostitution? (1:00:40) Or no?
Scott Benner (1:00:41) No. (1:00:42) I no. (1:00:42) I don't know. (1:00:43) Like, I was talking to, I was recording yesterday with this lady, and she's like, I'm scared. (1:00:49) As we were starting, she's like, I'm nervous, and I'm afraid I'm gonna be scattered.
Scott Benner (1:00:52) And I was like, I don't care. (1:00:54) Like, I I'm just like, I I said, to me, being serious, like, I think if you do a podcast in time order or you follow, like, a bullet list, I think it's boring. (1:01:04) I don't think it's entertaining, and I don't think people would listen to it. (1:01:07) Right? (1:01:07) And I also think that if we sat down and every word that came out of our mouths for an hour was completely about diabetes, again, I don't think anybody would listen to it.
Scott Benner (1:01:16) So, you know, I think of this more as eight small conversations in an hour that are tangentially related to each other. (1:01:25) Mhmm. (1:01:25) And to me, that's that's consumable. (1:01:30) You know what I mean?
Shannon (1:01:30) Like No. (1:01:31) I agree. (1:01:31) And I think, like, I think personality wise, it's just I think it depends. (1:01:36) Like, I have a good friend who can do that, and she can like, I'll tell her something. (1:01:40) And again, like, you said, like, eight different conversations, and I can tell her something, and she can pull, like, so what you're saying is and I'm like, oh my god.
Shannon (1:01:46) How do you do that?
Scott Benner (1:01:47) Yeah. (1:01:47) No. (1:01:47) No. (1:01:47) No. (1:01:48) That's just how I like it.
Scott Benner (1:01:49) So I don't think we had a scattered conversation at all. (1:01:51) And I don't think it's strange to pivot from one thing to another. (1:01:54) I think it's all good. (1:01:55) Also, I wanna be clear about something. (1:01:57) I I think Shannon's right.
Scott Benner (1:01:58) I don't I don't think you should visit, a sex worker. (1:02:01) And at the same time, I I was just sort of trying to make the point that I don't know that I wanna build another deep relationship with them. (1:02:08) I don't know if I could do first of all, may I be honest? (1:02:11) Think I'd be too devastated to do it, honestly.
Shannon (1:02:14) Been with this person for how long? (1:02:15) I'm Mike and I will be married twenty five years this coming May.
Scott Benner (1:02:19) Yeah.
Shannon (1:02:19) And so, I mean, that's a long time.
Scott Benner (1:02:22) Yeah. (1:02:22) I started bothering Kelly when she was, like, the 19, and I think I got her to start dating me when she was, like, 20. (1:02:28) And, I mean, I saw she's pretty old. (1:02:31) So I we've been doing this for a while now. (1:02:33) There's so much of my life and my thoughts and everything is so, like, intertwined into who she is.
Scott Benner (1:02:38) Like, if she just disappeared, like, the idea that I could just turn to, like, you know, some nice Indian lady because Arden told me to and be like, hey. (1:02:46) Like, why don't we just, like, start going? (1:02:48) You know? (1:02:49) You, you know, I just I don't know how I was supposed to do that. (1:02:52) Like, I don't know how I'd walk through life and not remember Kelly every step of the way.
Shannon (1:02:55) She does Arden doesn't say why Indian. (1:02:57) I'm
Scott Benner (1:02:58) just mention why. (1:02:59) No. (1:02:59) Just that she sees me with a nice Indian lady. (1:03:01) So Okay. (1:03:02) Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:03:03) I mean, I'm up for whatever.
Shannon (1:03:04) Yeah. (1:03:05) No. (1:03:05) No. (1:03:05) No. (1:03:05) No.
Shannon (1:03:05) I'm just I was just curious, like, why that? (1:03:07) Like, you know?
Scott Benner (1:03:08) I don't know. (1:03:09) I think maybe I could ask her sometime. (1:03:10) Yeah. (1:03:11) She's never once said, like, a French lady or this or that. (1:03:13) Like, she's always just like, you know, that's it.
Scott Benner (1:03:17) I don't know. (1:03:17) I I I guess I should ask. (1:03:19) So I guess that'd be a good follow-up question.
Shannon (1:03:23) Of all the things.
Scott Benner (1:03:24) I guess that'd be a good follow-up question why you're saying, this person may because maybe I should be on the lookout. (1:03:29) Maybe I should be trading Kelly in. (1:03:32) You know? (1:03:33) On a can you imagine if Kelly heard me say that, she'd be like, please please give me away. (1:03:37) That would be awesome.
Shannon (1:03:39) I think we all think that. (1:03:41) I'm like, go ahead.
Scott Benner (1:03:41) You know, it's isn't it funny too? (1:03:43) Like, I do think everyone feels that there's an underlining vibe there. (1:03:47) But, you know, the minute you're away from your husband for a little while, don't you miss him?
Shannon (1:03:52) Yeah. (1:03:52) Of course.
Scott Benner (1:03:52) Yeah. (1:03:53) Nah. (1:03:53) It's really interesting.
Shannon (1:03:54) Even though he drives me nuts sometimes. (1:03:56) I'm just like, you know? (1:03:58) Okay. (1:03:58) Why
Scott Benner (1:03:59) do you move the other Texas?
Shannon (1:04:01) Well, Texas was getting really crowded and really expensive. (1:04:05) And my my like I said, my mom passed away four years ago. (1:04:09) My dad still lives on Miami, and we had always tried to move back closer east. (1:04:15) I don't wanna go to Florida or Miami. (1:04:16) It's just it's oh, I can't see me there.
Shannon (1:04:19) Yeah. (1:04:20) And so just to be closer, instead of a twenty four hour drive from, you know, from Dallas, it's, like, 14 here. (1:04:26) And so we found some land. (1:04:28) My, Mike's brother and his dad live here. (1:04:31) And so it was just we found the land, and then I was just ready to leave the job that I was in.
Shannon (1:04:39) So Mhmm. (1:04:40) I found this one, and then, yeah, here we are. (1:04:42) We built a house.
Scott Benner (1:04:43) I tried to get Kelly to move the other day, and she's like, no.
Shannon (1:04:46) She's like, no.
Scott Benner (1:04:47) I was like, please. (1:04:49) Please, let's get out of here.
Shannon (1:04:51) Yeah. (1:04:51) So
Scott Benner (1:04:52) She won't listen to me. (1:04:53) It's fine.
Shannon (1:04:53) Well, we bought 22 acres and it's I mean, it's a huge change from just the little, like, house that we lived in outside of Dallas. (1:05:02) And so yeah. (1:05:02) And we're 22 acres. (1:05:03) We have, like, 50 chickens. (1:05:05) Mike just went and bought three pigs.
Shannon (1:05:07) So we get those in November. (1:05:09) It's it's been
Scott Benner (1:05:11) Are you working from home?
Shannon (1:05:12) Today, I am. (1:05:13) But, no, I I have the flexibility, luckily, that I can, like, five appointments or whatever. (1:05:18) I can work from home. (1:05:19) But, no. (1:05:19) Most of the days, I go to office.
Scott Benner (1:05:21) Do? (1:05:21) We're making fun of him. (1:05:22) It sounds like he's, he's slinging it here. (1:05:24) How can he afford 22 acres? (1:05:26) What's going on?
Shannon (1:05:28) So well, we bought it before we moved here and then, you know, slowly started paying it down, and then we put a house on it. (1:05:34) So but he is in education. (1:05:37) He is a math instructional coach. (1:05:40) I had to think about
Scott Benner (1:05:41) that. (1:05:41) Really?
Shannon (1:05:41) So yeah. (1:05:42) Yeah. (1:05:43) So he helps math teachers for our local school district.
Scott Benner (1:05:45) No kidding. (1:05:46) And that pays enough to get 22 acres somewhere and put a house down?
Shannon (1:05:49) I mean I mean, listen. (1:05:51) Tennessee does not pay well. (1:05:52) I'll tell you that.
Scott Benner (1:05:53) The wrong job. (1:05:54) Well, wait. (1:05:54) Is it cheap to build in Tennessee? (1:05:56) I'm on my way. (1:05:57) How's the humidity?
Shannon (1:05:58) Oh, god. (1:05:59) It is humid. (1:06:00) Oh, never mind. (1:06:01) I I didn't realize how humid it was in the summer.
Scott Benner (1:06:03) I know.
Shannon (1:06:04) But it's definitely it's cooler in the winter if you like winter. (1:06:08) And it has fall, obviously, like Texas didn't really have that.
Scott Benner (1:06:11) Never mind. (1:06:12) I'm sorry. (1:06:12) I didn't realize there was humidity. (1:06:14) I'm I'm I'm completely gone.
Shannon (1:06:17) I do say that. (1:06:18) I'm like, your brother did not tell us about this humidity when we moved here. (1:06:21) He lied. (1:06:22) Because he's like, it's not that bad.
Scott Benner (1:06:23) That's why the 22 acres was affordable. (1:06:25) Because
Shannon (1:06:26) the humidity.
Scott Benner (1:06:27) It's not you're like, it wasn't affordable.
Shannon (1:06:29) I don't know about that. (1:06:30) I mean, it's getting more expensive, but luckily, we bought before it went higher. (1:06:34) So Okay. (1:06:34) I mean, it's nice. (1:06:36) It's definitely a slower pace of life, and it's kind of nice to like, yeah, it's definite pay cut for sure from what we were doing before in Dallas, but I don't you know, money's not everything.
Scott Benner (1:06:46) No. (1:06:46) No. (1:06:46) Certainly not. (1:06:47) Especially as you get older. (1:06:48) Right?
Scott Benner (1:06:48) Like, once you've got things paid for. (1:06:50) I'm looking at this map of the country. (1:06:53) There's nowhere to go. (1:06:54) There really isn't. (1:06:55) I mean, this Tennessee is in the middle of the, like like, I see.
Scott Benner (1:06:58) That's too far off though. (1:06:59) You can't get any breeze there. (1:07:00) Right? (1:07:01) You're too far in.
Shannon (1:07:01) My in law.
Scott Benner (1:07:02) That's why that's why that Atlanta is terrible with the with the humidity. (1:07:06) Yeah. (1:07:06) Yeah. (1:07:07) Oh, I'm seeing it now in Alabama, Mississippi. (1:07:10) We yeah.
Scott Benner (1:07:10) You can't go in any of those places.
Shannon (1:07:12) I don't know. (1:07:12) I mean, I I mean, I don't I don't mind it. (1:07:14) It's pretty. (1:07:15) I mean, we're surrounded by mountains. (1:07:17) I mean, like, hour and a half, we can go to Gatlinburg.
Shannon (1:07:20) We can go to the beach, which is a little further away, North Carolina ish or South Carolina. (1:07:25) That's even further away. (1:07:26) But, you know, it's it it's actually not too bad.
Scott Benner (1:07:29) I'm picking through all these states. (1:07:30) I don't see anything. (1:07:32) Yeah.
Shannon (1:07:33) Aren't you in, like, New Jersey?
Scott Benner (1:07:35) I am. (1:07:35) Ish. (1:07:35) Also, everything's terrible.
Shannon (1:07:37) Yeah. (1:07:38) My
Scott Benner (1:07:38) What am I look I I don't wanna be cold in the winter. (1:07:40) I don't wanna be sweaty in the summer. (1:07:42) These are my desires. (1:07:43) They're very simple.
Shannon (1:07:45) I don't know that that's simple.
Scott Benner (1:07:46) I know. (1:07:47) That's the problem. (1:07:48) So do I wanna be, like, like, Southern Utah? (1:07:50) Would that do it? (1:07:52) Like, down towards Arizona?
Scott Benner (1:07:53) No. (1:07:53) But
Shannon (1:07:54) Arizona's hot.
Scott Benner (1:07:56) I don't wanna be in Arizona. (1:07:57) I'm saying, like, isn't it, like or is it hot in Utah? (1:07:59) I don't maybe it would help if I understood the places better. (1:08:02) And Colorado, I don't wanna buy a Patagonia sweatshirt, so, like, I don't wanna go there.
Shannon (1:08:07) Colorado's expensive too.
Scott Benner (1:08:08) I think I'd like Montana or Wyoming in the summer.
Shannon (1:08:13) Yes. (1:08:14) I've heard that that they're beautiful places.
Scott Benner (1:08:16) And then in the winter, Southern California, that kind of weather. (1:08:22) Even in the winter, maybe northern I don't know. (1:08:24) North Texas is still like, they you got all those aren't they aren't the the the, what's the thing? (1:08:30) It makes you sneeze. (1:08:32) Allergies are terrible there.
Scott Benner (1:08:33) Right?
Shannon (1:08:33) Oh, yes. (1:08:34) Yeah. (1:08:34) Yes.
Scott Benner (1:08:35) I can't do that.
Shannon (1:08:35) I don't Here too, really. (1:08:37) Allergies I had to start taking an allergy pill every day here.
Scott Benner (1:08:40) You think this planet was even meant for us? (1:08:42) The hell?
Shannon (1:08:42) I don't think so. (1:08:44) Well,
Scott Benner (1:08:45) could I summer in Maine? (1:08:48) Would that be cooler?
Shannon (1:08:50) Oh, probably. (1:08:51) I don't know about the allergen level though. (1:08:53) You'd have to Google that.
Scott Benner (1:08:54) They got a lot of trees there too. (1:08:56) Yeah. (1:08:57) Yeah. (1:08:57) Okay. (1:08:58) I'm gonna get that bubble that John Travolta lived in in that TV movie in the seventies.
Scott Benner (1:09:04) It was called the boy in the plastic bubble in case anybody's wondering.
Shannon (1:09:06) I don't think you're gonna convince your wife to go anywhere though. (1:09:09) So
Scott Benner (1:09:10) She wants an ocean. (1:09:11) She just wants to be near the ocean. (1:09:13) Oh my god. (1:09:14) The Boy in the Plastic Bubble, starring John Travolta. (1:09:17) I remember watching this on television.
Scott Benner (1:09:19) It was terrible.
Shannon (1:09:20) When did that come out?
Scott Benner (1:09:21) Oh, I'm looking right now. (1:09:22) I'm gonna get you a date. (1:09:23) 1976. (1:09:24) I was five when I saw this, and I still remember it.
Shannon (1:09:28) No kidding. (1:09:28) I've heard of it, but I don't think I've I seen
Scott Benner (1:09:30) mean, I would not, forty nine years, remove from the time I saw it. (1:09:33) I I but I'm still recommending you don't watch it.
Shannon (1:09:36) Don't worry. (1:09:37) Okay. (1:09:37) Well, good. (1:09:38) I won't waste my time then.
Scott Benner (1:09:39) Alright. (1:09:39) This is good. (1:09:40) Go live your life. (1:09:42) Thank you for doing this with me. (1:09:43) I really do appreciate it.
Shannon (1:09:44) No problem. (1:09:44) Thanks for having me.
Scott Benner (1:09:45) That asked for, like, you know, people who've been on before to check back in. (1:09:49) If you didn't like this, this is your fault. (1:09:51) And if you did like
Shannon (1:09:52) It pretty much is.
Scott Benner (1:09:53) Yeah. (1:09:53) If you did like it, then here, I gave you what you wanted. (1:09:56) Leave me alone. (1:09:57) Thank you.
Shannon (1:09:57) That one person who commented, she wanted an update from me. (1:10:00) God bless her.
Scott Benner (1:10:01) We're making an episode for one person. (1:10:02) She's like, I got it. (1:10:03) I did what I I get this is awesome. (1:10:05) Yay, Shannon. (1:10:06) She's like, she's great.
Scott Benner (1:10:07) She's probably netting it now for moving out of Texas.
Shannon (1:10:11) Yeah. (1:10:11) Maybe.
Scott Benner (1:10:13) Alright. (1:10:14) I'm gonna go read more about the boy in the plastic bubble. (1:10:15) I figure what this is about. (1:10:17) See you.
Shannon (1:10:17) Well, you have fun.
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Scott Benner (1:11:50) It's the greatest gift you could give me. (1:11:52) Thank you so very much. (1:11:54) Unless, of course, you wanna share the show with someone else, then that would be an awesome gift too or a five star review. (1:11:59) I don't know. (1:11:59) You don't really owe me a gift, but I mean, if you're looking for something to do.
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Scott Benner (1:12:09) You've made it to the end of the podcast. (1:12:11) You must have enjoyed it. (1:12:12) You know what else you might enjoy? (1:12:13) The private Facebook group for the Juice Box podcast. (1:12:17) I know you're thinking, ugh, Facebook, Scott, please.
Scott Benner (1:12:19) But no. (1:12:20) Beautiful group, wonderful people, a fantastic community. (1:12:24) Juice Box podcast, type one diabetes on Facebook. (1:12:27) Of course, if you have type two, are you touched by diabetes in any way? (1:12:31) You're absolutely welcome.
Scott Benner (1:12:33) It's a private group, you'll have to answer a couple of questions before you come in. (1:12:36) We'll make sure you're not a bot or an evil doer, then you're on your way. (1:12:40) You'll be part of the family. (1:12:42) Hey. (1:12:42) I'm dropping in to tell you about a small change being made to the Juice Cruise 2026 schedule.
Scott Benner (1:12:47) This adjustment was made by Celebrity Cruise Lines, not by me. (1:12:51) Anyway, we're still going out on the Celebrity Beyond cruise ship, which is awesome. (1:12:55) Check out the walkthrough video at juiceboxpodcast.com/juicecruise. (1:13:00) The ship is awesome. (1:13:01) Still a seven night cruise.
Scott Benner (1:13:03) It still leaves out of Miami on June 21. (1:13:06) Actually, most of this is the same. (1:13:08) We leave Miami June 21, head to Coco Cay in The Bahamas, but then we're going to San Juan, Puerto Rico instead of Saint Thomas. (1:13:16) After that, Bastirie, I think I'm saying that wrong, Saint Kitts And Nevis. (1:13:20) This place is gorgeous.
Scott Benner (1:13:21) Google it. (1:13:22) I mean, you're probably gonna have to go to my link to get the correct spelling because my pronunciation is so bad. (1:13:26) But once you get the Saint Kitts and you Google it, you're gonna look and see a photo that says to you, oh, I wanna go there. (1:13:33) Come meet other people living with type one diabetes from caregivers to children to adults. (1:13:40) Last year, we had a 100 people on our cruise, and it was fabulous.
Scott Benner (1:13:45) You can see pictures to get at my link juiceboxpodcast.com/juicecruise. (1:13:49) You can see those pictures from last year there. (1:13:52) The link also gives you an opportunity to register for the cruise or to contact Suzanne from Cruise Planners. (1:13:58) She takes care of all the logistics. (1:13:59) I'm just excited that I might see you there.
Scott Benner (1:14:02) It's a beautiful event for families, for singles, a wonderful opportunity to meet people, swap stories, make friendships, and learn. (1:14:12) My grand rounds series was designed by listeners to tell doctors what they need, and it also helps you to understand what to ask for. (1:14:20) There's a mental wellness series that addresses the emotional side of diabetes and practical ways to stay balanced. (1:14:26) And when we talk about GLP medications, well, we'll break down what they are, how they may help you, and if they fit into your diabetes management plan. (1:14:33) What do these three things have in common?
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