#1696 Down On My Knees
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Cecilia discusses fighting for a Dexcom immediately after her daughter’s diagnosis and using podcast education to achieve a 5.4 A1C despite limited medical guidance.
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Cecilia (1:55) Okay. (1:56) I'm not great at that kind of thing. (1:57) Is there, like, a template for introductions?
Scott Benner (2:00) Oh, that's so interesting. (2:01) This is now your introduction.
Cecilia (2:03) Okay. (2:03) Great.
Scott Benner (2:04) What's your name?
Cecilia (2:06) Cecilia.
Scott Benner (2:07) Oh, yeah. (2:08) You're the reason I've been singing that song all morning.
Cecilia (2:11) Yep. (2:11) I get that all the time.
Scott Benner (2:12) Sorry about that.
Cecilia (2:14) That's okay.
Scott Benner (2:14) I know it probably happens to you all the time, but it a 100% has happened to me today.
Cecilia (2:19) That's quite alright.
Scott Benner (2:20) Maybe because, oddly enough, when my son was a baby, it was one of the songs that made him comfortable when he couldn't sleep.
Cecilia (2:27) That's funny. (2:28) You gotta do what you gotta do.
Scott Benner (2:29) That one and the other one was a Beatles song. (2:31) I'd let you guess, but that would be boring. (2:33) It was Blackbird.
Cecilia (2:35) Oh. (2:35) Yeah. (2:36) Well, that's a good one.
Scott Benner (2:37) I used to sit with him when we first moved into our place, we didn't have a lot of stuff yet. (2:43) And so I would take him to this quiet room. (2:46) It was kind of like a loft, and that's being generous. (2:49) There was a small loft in a condo that we got that we never used because it was so small, was unusable. (2:56) And on the other side of it was a storage room, like, literally a storage room that I made my office in.
Scott Benner (3:02) So I would basically go upstairs, go into a large closet where my computer was. (3:07) I'd lay him across my lap, rub his back, and play Blackbird until he fell asleep.
Cecilia (3:13) Oh.
Scott Benner (3:13) And now it makes me cry every time I hear it.
Cecilia (3:16) Oh, I would be the same way.
Scott Benner (3:17) Yeah. (3:17) So I can't even listen to the song. (3:19) It's, ruined the song for me.
Cecilia (3:20) Alright.
Scott Benner (3:21) Anyway, Cecilia, what are you doing here? (3:24) You have a kid with type one? (3:25) You have type one yourself? (3:26) What are we finding out today?
Cecilia (3:28) My daughter has type one. (3:29) She is nine, and she was diagnosed almost a year ago. (3:33) Was October 9.
Scott Benner (3:34) Oh, very recently. (3:35) Mhmm. (3:36) Oh, gosh. (3:37) Just a year and a couple of weeks.
Cecilia (3:39) Yeah. (3:39) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (3:40) Alright. (3:41) Other kids?
Cecilia (3:42) I have a son. (3:43) He is a couple years older than her.
Scott Benner (3:45) Okay. (3:45) You're still married? (3:46) No? (3:46) Yes? (3:46) Who ever was?
Cecilia (3:47) We've been married for oh, wow. (3:49) It's too early for math. (3:50) Since 2012.
Scott Benner (3:51) Oh, that's fun. (3:52) At least well, at least you knew the year.
Cecilia (3:54) Yeah. (3:55) Yeah. (3:55) Yeah. (3:55) He's deployed right now, so my brain's all over the place.
Scott Benner (3:59) What does your husband do for us?
Cecilia (4:01) He's in the army.
Scott Benner (4:02) Yeah. (4:03) How long has he been in?
Cecilia (4:04) Fifteen years. (4:05) Oh, wow. (4:06) Yeah. (4:06) We're at we're at getting to the end.
Scott Benner (4:08) I was gonna say, is he, looking for a job?
Cecilia (4:10) Not yet. (4:11) No. (4:11) He's got he's got his last couple I think we have one duty station after this and then retirement from the army.
Scott Benner (4:18) What's he gonna retire as?
Cecilia (4:20) Right now, he's a master sergeant. (4:22) So he doesn't think he'll make sergeant major, but we'll see. (4:26) Oh. (4:26) We'll see.
Scott Benner (4:26) Sounds like you think he will.
Cecilia (4:28) I think he's pretty good at his job. (4:29) I I always think he's gonna do better than he does, but he's pretty humble.
Scott Benner (4:33) Oh, that's very nice. (4:34) Okay. (4:35) So how long has he been gone? (4:37) Like, what kind of chunks does he leave for, I guess, is my question.
Cecilia (4:40) It depends. (4:41) This time is a long a longer time, about a year. (4:43) So
Scott Benner (4:44) He's been gone a year. (4:45) Wait. (4:45) Was
Cecilia (4:45) No. (4:46) No. (4:46) No. (4:46) He's going to be gone about a year. (4:48) We're not even halfway yet.
Scott Benner (4:49) Ah, so he was around when your daughter was diagnosed?
Cecilia (4:52) Absolutely.
Scott Benner (4:53) Okay. (4:53) Mhmm. (4:53) Tell me about that a little bit.
Cecilia (4:56) Well, do you want me to talk about how we figured it out? (4:59) Or
Scott Benner (5:00) What do you wanna talk about?
Cecilia (5:01) I mean, we can talk about how she got diagnosed because I don't know. (5:06) I I I didn't know a whole lot about it.
Scott Benner (5:08) You're so amenable. (5:09) This is this is I'm I'm not accustomed to this. (5:11) I will, I say to my wife all the time, I should have married a more amenable person.
Cecilia (5:16) Well, it's you know, I don't know what I'm doing.
Scott Benner (5:19) No. (5:20) You but you're like, what would you like? (5:21) And I was and then that froze me because I was like, oh gosh. (5:23) No one ever asked me that.
Cecilia (5:26) No. (5:26) I don't know what I'm doing. (5:27) So you're the pro. (5:28) But, no, she was
Scott Benner (5:30) Yeah. (5:31) Tell me about it. (5:31) Like that.
Cecilia (5:32) Looking back now, I know what all of these things were.
Scott Benner (5:35) Okay.
Cecilia (5:35) But she started getting really agitated just randomly or what I thought was randomly. (5:41) And I'm talking like I don't know. (5:43) We it was like she was suddenly uncontrollable, but it wasn't all day every day. (5:47) And I thought, well, maybe she's just hanging out with some kids at school that maybe she shouldn't be hanging out with, or maybe she's just really frustrated. (5:54) We couldn't figure it out.
Cecilia (5:56) And then it turned into every night. (5:58) Oh, my stomach really hurts. (5:59) My stomach really hurts. (6:00) Well, she's always been my kid that's had a little bit of anxiety, and I thought she was just trying to get out of bedtime. (6:05) Mhmm.
Cecilia (6:06) And then it turned into one day, she got home from school. (6:10) We were picking her up in the car line, and she said, I really need you to start packing me some more water. (6:15) I was like, what? (6:16) You don't you're not my water drinker. (6:18) Like, we had just moved to South Carolina.
Cecilia (6:20) It's a lot hotter here than where we came from, and I thought, oh, well, you're finally listening to us. (6:25) You know? (6:25) My kids don't wanna drink water.
Scott Benner (6:26) Mhmm.
Cecilia (6:27) So I thought, oh, maybe you're finally listening to us and you're just thirsty. (6:31) Mind you, the water bottle that she brings to school is, I think it's 24 ounces. (6:35) Traditionally, she'd maybe drink half of it all day. (6:38) She started going through two, three, four of them a day, and I thought, that's kinda weird. (6:44) My husband and I looked at each other like, And now it should be noted that I have bad anxiety myself, and I have OCD, and I'm always like, oh my gosh.
Cecilia (6:53) The sky is falling. (6:54) This is the worst case possible. (6:57) And so I thought, well, you're just being weird about it. (6:59) Don't overthink it. (7:00) And it just started tumbling into one thing to the next, and she would again, she was my kid that didn't eat much either and started, you could not get enough chicken nuggets into this girl.
Cecilia (7:10) You couldn't get enough cereal. (7:11) Whatever it was, it wasn't enough. (7:13) And I told my husband, I was like, do you think this is weird? (7:17) He was like, yeah. (7:18) A little bit, but maybe she's growing.
Cecilia (7:20) And I started comparing pictures, and I was like, well, it looks like she's lost a little weight. (7:24) But, again, I just chalked it up to a growth spurt.
Scott Benner (7:27) Mhmm.
Cecilia (7:28) Didn't think anything of it. (7:29) And then there was a couple of times that she had a couple of accidents, and I'm like she go, oh, I just laughed too hard. (7:35) And, again, she's my kid that has always waited till the last second to go to the bathroom. (7:39) So all these things I wrote off to just being something else, not really thinking about diabetes. (7:45) And then one day, it just hit me in my gut, I was like, I think this is what this is.
Cecilia (7:49) And so I went on TikTok, and I started looking, well, how much water is too much water? (7:53) Trying to find anything I could to, like, I don't know, talk myself out of it being what it was. (7:58) Yeah. (7:59) I have two autoimmune diseases myself, and my husband's side of the family does have type one.
Scott Benner (8:05) Okay.
Cecilia (8:06) Should I have been surprised? (8:07) No. (8:08) And so I, you know, I remember calling my dad. (8:10) He was a firefighter for years and years and years, and so he's been to people's houses who have low blood sugar or whatever. (8:17) And I was like, hey.
Cecilia (8:17) Do you know anything about this? (8:19) He said, no. (8:19) But you should take her to get her checked. (8:22) Okay? (8:22) Smart.
Cecilia (8:23) We go to the primary care. (8:25) I tell her what my concerns are, and she's kinda, like, waving me off a little bit, probably thinking that I'm just, you know, crazy mom. (8:32) She was like, but it's no problem. (8:33) We'll check her finger. (8:33) No big deal.
Cecilia (8:34) She leaves. (8:35) The, medical assistant comes in, and I'm standing next to my daughter. (8:38) She pokes her finger. (8:39) My daughter, by the way, is, like, an anxious mess at this point because I don't we don't go to the doctor in this house. (8:45) So we're going.
Cecilia (8:47) Something is wrong. (8:48) She checks her finger and the meter just reads hi. (8:51) And I look at my husband like, oh
Scott Benner (8:54) Yeah.
Cecilia (8:54) And we went to the emergency room.
Scott Benner (8:57) I have a bunch of questions.
Cecilia (8:58) Sure.
Scott Benner (8:59) How old are you?
Cecilia (9:00) How old? (9:00) 37.
Scott Benner (9:01) 37. (9:02) Mhmm. (9:02) When you wanted information about drinking water, you went to TikTok?
Cecilia (9:06) Yeah. (9:06) Isn't that weird?
Scott Benner (9:07) No. (9:07) I I I don't know that it is. (9:09) I'm trying to but it's not what I would occur to me. (9:11) So how do you search TikTok for that information?
Cecilia (9:14) You know, I don't remember exactly what I did, but I think I put in, like, signs of type one diabetes, and I tried to figure out I was going through people's videos to try and see, you know, when they were saying, this is how I got diagnosed. (9:26) I was hoping to find, like, a concrete amount of water that people were drinking to say, okay. (9:31) That's an excessive amount. (9:32) I didn't know what that was.
Scott Benner (9:34) Okay.
Cecilia (9:34) And I thought, well, this is an excessive amount for her, but is it so excessive that I should be worried? (9:39) I was just trying to find and I went I went to Facebook. (9:42) I I searched everything.
Scott Benner (9:44) You were all over the place. (9:45) Okay.
Cecilia (9:45) All over the place. (9:46) And she had had a friend in her first grade class who was type one. (9:50) And I messaged his mom, and I said, hey. (9:53) When he got diagnosed, how much water was he drinking? (9:56) And she I mean, she didn't remember anymore at that point.
Cecilia (9:58) It had been a year or two for her, but I was everywhere and anywhere looking for something.
Scott Benner (10:04) Okay. (10:05) What made you think diabetes initially? (10:07) Just because it was in the family? (10:08) Or did something about the peeing bring it up for you?
Cecilia (10:12) The water and the hunger. (10:14) And then I started putting all of the little sides together.
Scott Benner (10:17) Together.
Cecilia (10:17) You know, I tell people all the time, I'm an anxious mess about everything, but this was different. (10:21) Like, once I knew, I knew. (10:24) And when they told me, I was not surprised.
Scott Benner (10:26) You have other autoimmune issues. (10:28) So what do you have? (10:29) Yes. (10:29) Hypothyroidism?
Cecilia (10:30) Yes. (10:31) I have Hashimoto's and celiac.
Scott Benner (10:32) Celiac. (10:33) Oh, this is gonna be my guess as you ruined it. (10:35) I was gonna look awesome. (10:36) And you have anxiety?
Cecilia (10:38) Yes.
Scott Benner (10:39) Like, diagnosed?
Cecilia (10:40) Yes.
Scott Benner (10:41) Do you do something about it?
Cecilia (10:42) I have Zoloft and therapy.
Scott Benner (10:44) Okay. (10:45) Is it helping?
Cecilia (10:46) A 100%.
Scott Benner (10:47) When you said you have OCD, do you meant diagnosed? (10:49) Or you just meant your Yes. (10:50) Your oh, okay. (10:51) Your and how does it manifest mostly? (10:54) A
Cecilia (10:54) lot of rumination and, like, worst case scenario, what if. (10:57) And then in my head, I'm like, okay. (10:59) Well, you know that you're doing this kinda knock it off thing. (11:02) It's not like an outward, I have to lock the car four times or
Scott Benner (11:06) You're not counting or taking steps or retracing your steps or something like that. (11:09) Okay. (11:10) Well, perfect for your husband to be in a war zone. (11:12) That's a great thing for you.
Cecilia (11:13) True. (11:13) Well, luckily, he's not in a dangerous spot right
Scott Benner (11:16) now. (11:16) Okay.
Cecilia (11:16) So thank God for that.
Scott Benner (11:17) I mean, really.
Cecilia (11:19) I know. (11:20) I know.
Scott Benner (11:20) All your life?
Cecilia (11:22) Yeah.
Scott Benner (11:23) Okay. (11:23) Anybody else in your family have that going on? (11:26) Your mom, your dad, your sisters, brothers? (11:28) No. (11:29) No.
Scott Benner (11:29) Just you. (11:30) Did they have any autoimmune stuff? (11:32) Your mom have high Hashimoto's?
Cecilia (11:35) No. (11:35) No. (11:36) Okay. (11:36) Well, I should say neither of them have anything that they ever knew about.
Scott Benner (11:39) No. (11:40) Fair enough. (11:40) Anybody pooping a lot after Thanksgiving dinner?
Cecilia (11:42) You know, I don't know. (11:43) I couldn't tell you that.
Scott Benner (11:44) You don't see people running off to the bathroom after food?
Cecilia (11:46) No.
Scott Benner (11:47) No. (11:47) Okay. (11:48) I'm gonna take a big swing here. (11:49) Is there any bipolar in your extended family?
Cecilia (11:53) Yes.
Scott Benner (11:54) Okay. (11:54) And on your husband's side, there's type one. (11:56) So you guys have, like, a perfect mix to make a baby with type one diabetes.
Cecilia (11:59) Yeah. (12:00) Yeah. (12:00) And it's it's funny because, you know, as they were growing up, when we went to the pediatrician and got their vaccines or whatever, and I would say, hey. (12:08) Is this something I need to worry about? (12:10) No.
Cecilia (12:11) Don't worry about
Scott Benner (12:12) it. (12:12) Okay. (12:13) Okay. (12:13) Any PCOS in your family?
Cecilia (12:16) No. (12:16) Not that I know
Scott Benner (12:16) of. (12:17) Not that you know of. (12:17) Have had any trouble making those babies or anything like that?
Cecilia (12:19) No. (12:20) We've all I mean, I only have two kids, but the rest of them mm-mm.
Scott Benner (12:23) Gotcha.
Cecilia (12:24) They're doing fine. (12:25) Alright.
Scott Benner (12:25) Okay. (12:25) I got it. (12:26) So I have all the information I was, interested in from that part. (12:29) So you're the meter high blood sugar sorry. (12:32) I'm gonna get you back on track.
Cecilia (12:33) That's okay.
Scott Benner (12:34) And then you end up at the emergency room?
Cecilia (12:37) Yeah. (12:37) We went to Children's.
Scott Benner (12:39) What was that blood sugar like? (12:40) Were you there for days, or was it a quick one?
Cecilia (12:43) We got there around 03:00, and we got they got her upstairs by of course, we were coming in at shift change, so it took a little bit longer. (12:53) She was admitted around 08:30 to the floor.
Scott Benner (12:57) Mhmm. (12:57) The keeper for how long?
Cecilia (12:59) We were discharged the next morning straight to endocrinology, which was across the parking lot.
Scott Benner (13:05) Oh, okay. (13:06) So not much in the way of, like, her blood sugars weren't too high. (13:10) She wasn't in DK, obviously, like, that kind of stuff you
Cecilia (13:12) would have gotten ahead of. (13:13) I couldn't tell you. (13:14) I'm assuming no. (13:15) Her blood sugar was six thirty six, and her a one c was 10 something.
Scott Benner (13:19) Mhmm.
Cecilia (13:20) But she hadn't been throwing up. (13:21) She wasn't breathing weird. (13:23) The doctors didn't say a whole lot to me. (13:25) That's a whole other thing.
Scott Benner (13:26) So go dig into that for a second. (13:28) What do you mean the doctors didn't say a whole lot to you?
Cecilia (13:30) We had one resident come in, and she talked to my daughter. (13:33) She was a type one as well, and she was showing her pump and everything. (13:37) But nobody said anything about DKA. (13:39) Nobody said anything about how long to expect to be there. (13:42) None of that.
Cecilia (13:43) And, you know, my husband was kind of in denial. (13:46) I was, like, just a mess on another planet. (13:49) I was keeping it together outwardly, but inwardly, it was like, oh my god. (13:53) And so we didn't really know what was going on or what to expect. (13:56) They didn't give her insulin for quite some time, which was insane to me.
Cecilia (14:00) But, again, I didn't know how it worked. (14:02) Mhmm. (14:03) And so I went back and read through the notes, and one of the doctors said she was in DKA, and one of the other ones didn't. (14:09) So
Scott Benner (14:09) I guess the one that said that she wasn't one because I don't think they would have let her out of there that quickly.
Cecilia (14:15) I don't either.
Scott Benner (14:16) Without my worry.
Cecilia (14:16) Fine. (14:17) It's I I don't want her to have been that sick, obviously. (14:19) No.
Scott Benner (14:20) Of course. (14:20) It's just interesting to to not get
Cecilia (14:22) Right.
Scott Benner (14:23) Yeah, agreement on it. (14:24) What what are you what you mean about your husband being in denial? (14:26) Was he, like, just talking about the football game and be like, we're almost out of here? (14:29) Or was like, what do you mean by that?
Cecilia (14:31) He's very protective over her and rightfully so. (14:34) And those were his words that he was in denial for quite some time. (14:37) Like, we were not the best team together for a few months thereafter.
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Cecilia (16:49) I wouldn't say in a panic so much. (16:52) I was just like and with everything, I wanna know as much as I can know about this, figure out how to start to live normally with it, move on to the next thing. (17:01) And he was kind of like I mean, not to speak for him, but from my perspective, I wish that this didn't happen. (17:08) She's still a normal kid, which, of course, she was. (17:10) But I don't know how to explain what I
Scott Benner (17:12) mean. (17:13) No. (17:13) You are explaining it. (17:14) Keep going.
Cecilia (17:15) He was just like, well, we don't need to. (17:16) I was big on, okay, we need to check her finger, see what she is before she eats because they wouldn't give us a Dexcom.
Scott Benner (17:22) Mhmm. (17:22) His take on that was what?
Cecilia (17:24) What was that?
Scott Benner (17:25) When you said you wanted to be checking your finger a lot, but he
Cecilia (17:28) He thought I was doing too much and I thought he wasn't doing enough. (17:32) I guess that's a good way to explain it all.
Scott Benner (17:33) Okay. (17:34) A year later, what was the truth?
Cecilia (17:36) Somewhere in the middle.
Scott Benner (17:37) Did he come around? (17:38) I mean, by that, I mean, did you yell at him and then make him do what he wanted? (17:43) How did that work?
Cecilia (17:44) You know? (17:47) Yeah. (17:49) I'm not even gonna lie. (17:51) I you know, I'm working on it. (17:52) I have a really big control problem, which kinda works out
Scott Benner (17:56) For this?
Cecilia (17:57) With managing this. (17:58) But, you know, in other areas of my life, it's not always served me well. (18:01) But we're we've we're so much better at it now a year later.
Scott Benner (18:05) Why do you think? (18:06) What do you think happened that made you better at it?
Cecilia (18:08) This podcast. (18:09) Oh. (18:10) And that's part of why I had emailed you a few months ago is because our education from the office I'm so torn on this because I feel like it wasn't enough. (18:19) And I had posted about this in the Facebook group, and somebody pointed out, you know, they don't have the time, and people don't all have the want to know.
Scott Benner (18:26) Mhmm.
Cecilia (18:27) They don't want to necessarily understand all this. (18:30) And so they just kind of, for lack of better words, dumb it down and simplify it just to get people out the door and start it. (18:37) Like, they just told us about carb counting. (18:39) We didn't get anything about proteins. (18:41) We didn't get anything about fats.
Cecilia (18:43) We didn't get anything about how basil could be different at different times of the day. (18:47) None of it. (18:48) Just straight carb counting.
Scott Benner (18:49) I have to say that after a a a fair amount of time being involved in this, I agree with that sentiment that it's possible there's no good way to attack it. (18:59) Yeah. (19:00) Right? (19:00) And but still, I don't think that's an excuse for not doing it.
Cecilia (19:05) Right.
Scott Benner (19:05) You know what I mean? (19:06) Like, I think you have to lay it out in a way that is, know, something that people can absorb in those first couple days, which is obviously already like, a crazy time to begin with. (19:16) They still deserve to hear they they deserve to know whether they can do something with it or not. (19:21) That's another story altogether.
Cecilia (19:23) Right.
Scott Benner (19:23) If I was on a cliff and there were a thousand lemmings walking off the cliff, I think it's still being incumbent upon me to go, hey, guys. (19:32) You are about to fall to your death. (19:34) Even though that's what they're there to do and that's probably what they're going to do. (19:38) And this might be a weird dislike like, maybe I'm not doing a a good job here. (19:42) But you know I mean?
Scott Benner (19:42) Like, there's a way this is gonna be handled by a certain number of people, a different way by another number. (19:48) I still think you should explain to them what's ahead of them. (19:51) And then you know what mean?
Cecilia (19:52) To their defense, they could have told me all of this information that I learned on the podcast in that day. (19:56) I mean, we were there for two hours, and then we were sent home. (20:00) I wouldn't have processed any of it. (20:02) So
Scott Benner (20:02) I believe that too. (20:03) I I I completely understand what you're saying. (20:05) And I I so it's a but that's a weird thing to me. (20:09) Like, if they would have done it, I don't know if it would have helped.
Cecilia (20:12) No. (20:12) It probably wouldn't have. (20:14) And since then, you know, we're a year into it now. (20:16) We still I've made adjustments myself. (20:19) Mhmm.
Cecilia (20:19) And it's worked out great. (20:22) It's been fine. (20:23) They would still have us at a 70 to $2.50 range. (20:26) We don't we don't do that. (20:28) There's been no other education given Yeah.
Cecilia (20:31) Besides we went to one pump class, which was just different reps there saying, hey. (20:37) This is what we have. (20:38) Mhmm. (20:38) Pick one kind of thing.
Scott Benner (20:39) Then this is the extension of that conversation then. (20:42) Like, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that telling you if they knew wouldn't be that valuable, maybe.
Cecilia (20:47) Yes.
Scott Benner (20:48) But now it's starting to sound like they didn't tell you because they didn't know.
Cecilia (20:52) And they might yeah. (20:54) I don't know.
Scott Benner (20:55) This is very interesting. (20:56) How are you supposed to know that coming in cold? (20:58) Right.
Cecilia (20:59) That was my biggest thing, and that's how I ended up I was in a different Facebook group. (21:03) It's like the mom t one d group or whatever, and a bunch of people said, oh, you gotta listen to the podcast. (21:09) And I already listened to podcasts, so that was fine with me. (21:12) And I drank it all up, and I was like, oh, okay. (21:17) This is why this is happening after she's having, say, pizza.
Scott Benner (21:20) Okay.
Cecilia (21:21) If I can understand why and there's not always an understanding of why something is happening. (21:27) But I learned so much more that I wasn't getting otherwise, and things started making sense, and it made it I don't wanna say easier because it's not easy. (21:35) When you understand it, it's a lit it's, for lack of a better word, a little easier to understand what to do and where to go.
Scott Benner (21:41) Yeah. (21:42) I I have to tell you, quite honestly, I didn't think you were gonna say the podcast when I asked you what changed things for you. (21:48) I I thought maybe you and your husband just came to an agreement or he started seeing something differently or you backed off a little. (21:54) I thought there was the story in there like that.
Cecilia (21:57) Oh, no. (21:57) I'm dead serious. (21:58) I listened to all of it. (22:02) The bold beginnings, the the math behind, I've listened to I couldn't tell you how many times. (22:08) The protein and fats, the one specific episode with Jeremy, the Control IQ Ninja, I've listened to that probably 10 times, I've taken notes each time to try and get her settings just right.
Cecilia (22:19) And we're a year in, and she's got 5.4 a one c.
Scott Benner (22:23) So Wow. (22:23) That was that's great. (22:24) Good for you. (22:25) That's
Cecilia (22:25) awesome. (22:25) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (22:26) Yeah. (22:27) Jeremy's episode is he's a great example of, like, right place, right time found the podcast, and I got to, like, like, get his his story out of him. (22:38) Because you come to realize like, I haven't talked to Jeremy in a while. (22:41) Right? (22:42) But I don't imagine that his level of involvement with diabetes is the same as it was back then.
Scott Benner (22:46) But in that moment, he found himself digging in. (22:51) He came to some great understanding. (22:52) He knew how to explain it. (22:54) It was really accessible. (22:56) I as far as his style of communication, you know?
Scott Benner (22:59) And there was. (23:00) Like, we were able to record it and put it down for somebody. (23:02) And awesome. (23:03) I can't tell you how many people have been helped by that one. (23:05) I actually wanna tell you that I am currently working with Tandem to build out a pro tip series for their pump.
Cecilia (23:12) So Even better. (23:13) Hopefully, that'll help.
Scott Benner (23:15) That'll help.
Cecilia (23:15) Absolutely. (23:16) I've learned between the podcast and a few different creators on TikTok
Scott Benner (23:20) Yeah.
Cecilia (23:21) I have learned so much. (23:22) And there is no way based off of the information we are getting from our endocrinologist and what I had known, had I not listened to anything, there is not a doubt in my mind that she would be doing as well as she is now.
Scott Benner (23:35) Yeah. (23:36) No. (23:36) It's awesome. (23:36) And it's awesome that you went and looked for it as well because you could have just said, hey. (23:41) It was 70 to two fifty.
Scott Benner (23:42) Right on. (23:42) I got it. (23:43) And no shade on him, but if you and your husband were thinking the same way, this sounds like what you'd be doing right now. (23:49) Mhmm. (23:50) You know?
Scott Benner (23:50) Because he was some people are just more ready to it's funny I called you amenable earlier, but you weren't amenable to any of that. (23:57) You were like, no. (23:57) No. (23:58) That's bullshit. (23:58) We're fixing this.
Cecilia (23:59) I don't want it to sound like I'm saying he didn't care about her and he was No. (24:03) Making dangerous decisions. (24:04) He absolutely was not. (24:06) He was more focused on, she's still an eight year old, let her be an eight year old.
Scott Benner (24:09) Oh, yeah.
Cecilia (24:10) And I was more like, she is an eight year old, we need to figure out how to make this adapt to her and try and keep her a little steady instead of up, down, up, down, up, down.
Scott Benner (24:19) Right. (24:20) I didn't take you that way. (24:21) Don't think anybody else did did either.
Cecilia (24:22) Okay. (24:22) Good.
Scott Benner (24:23) I'm just trying to say that, like, for somebody who's more floating in that direction, if someone tells you 70 to two fifty is good, you're gonna why would you question it? (24:32) You're like, oh, yeah. (24:33) I mean And
Cecilia (24:33) I didn't Man. (24:34) For about a month.
Scott Benner (24:35) I didn't question it for, like, a year. (24:37) And then I started thinking, like I I actually found myself telling this story the other day. (24:42) You know, I I finally started worrying about the higher blood sugars and the bouncing and everything. (24:46) And I said to the the nurse practitioner, like, you know, like, I don't know. (24:51) I feel like this is bad.
Scott Benner (24:52) Her blood sugars are high a lot. (24:54) And she said, oh, high blood sugars aren't a problem for young kids.
Cecilia (24:58) Oof.
Scott Benner (24:59) And I was like in the beginning, I went, oh, okay. (25:02) That's good news. (25:03) Like, there must be a physiological reason why high blood sugars aren't bad for kids. (25:08) And then it finally, like, it just stuck with me, I pushed. (25:11) And then I back to them again, I was like, what do you mean by that exactly?
Scott Benner (25:15) You know? (25:16) She just said, well, you know, like, dire circumstances from type one diabetes don't come for, like, thirty years. (25:21) And I was like, oh, she just means she's young. (25:25) I said, you know thirty years from now should be 32. (25:27) Right?
Cecilia (25:28) Right.
Scott Benner (25:28) Not really even, like, your life going yet. (25:30) Like, you you're telling me my daughter's gonna have, like, dire circumstances from her diabetes when she's 32?
Cecilia (25:36) Right.
Scott Benner (25:37) And you feel like that's comforting? (25:39) You might completely misunderstand this whole thing. (25:42) And I don't know where you're at in the country. (25:43) I'm not even asking you. (25:44) But we were going to a pretty popular mainstream, you know, children's hospital.
Scott Benner (25:50) So
Cecilia (25:50) We're in South Carolina. (25:52) I had to learn really quick to advocate for her and which is not a problem for me. (25:58) I don't have a problem doing that. (25:59) Mhmm. (25:59) You know, like I said earlier, they didn't even wanna give us a Dexcom.
Cecilia (26:02) I'm sure they have some sort of equation where they figure out, you know, basal rates and all that. (26:06) And, you know, they said, okay. (26:08) Well, let's see. (26:09) She was discharged. (26:11) We went in on a Wednesday night.
Cecilia (26:12) She was discharged Thursday morning. (26:14) Friday night, she's they said, okay. (26:17) Well, you don't need to check her her finger overnight after this weekend or after Friday.
Scott Benner (26:22) Okay.
Cecilia (26:22) I was like, okay. (26:23) That's weird. (26:23) I'm not doing that. (26:24) But okay. (26:25) And so I set an alarm for I don't know.
Cecilia (26:27) I think it was, like, every three hours or something overnight. (26:30) And, you know, I'm reading in these groups, get a Dexcom. (26:33) Get a Dexcom. (26:34) Get a Dexcom. (26:35) Because she was also nervous, and she was wanting to poke her finger way more than she probably needed to.
Cecilia (26:40) But I was like, you know what? (26:41) This is for you. (26:42) If this is gonna make you feel better, go right on ahead. (26:45) So And it was, like, two in the morning, and her blood sugar was 31. (26:48) And I was like, oh, you know, I feel like that's not great.
Cecilia (26:52) So and she was a little combative. (26:55) It was hard to get her to get some juice in. (26:57) We got it we got it handled, and I called them the next day, and I said, can you give me a reason why you won't give me a Dexcom other than you wanting us to learn the traditional way in case the Dexcom were to fail?
Scott Benner (27:07) Yeah.
Cecilia (27:08) And which whatever. (27:09) I kind of understand. (27:10) But I said, there's no good reason you can't just give her a Dexcom. (27:14) So can we come get one, please? (27:17) And we did.
Scott Benner (27:17) And they said yes?
Cecilia (27:19) Yeah. (27:19) And to be fair though, I wasn't really gonna let them tell me no. (27:23) So
Scott Benner (27:23) Yeah. (27:24) Okay. (27:24) So you they pushed back. (27:25) You pushed harder.
Cecilia (27:26) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (27:27) I see. (27:28) Interesting because the guy I interviewed yesterday said that they told him a year. (27:33) Yeah. (27:34) You can't have a CGM for a year.
Cecilia (27:36) Yeah. (27:36) They tried that, and I said no.
Scott Benner (27:39) A year? (27:40) Don't you think? (27:40) Wait. (27:41) I'll tell you anybody who has diabetes could tell you that in about three days, you figured out all the stuff that can go wrong.
Cecilia (27:46) Right. (27:47) That then that was my thing. (27:48) I'm like, okay. (27:49) Well, we understand how to do this. (27:50) This part isn't rocket science.
Cecilia (27:52) I said, it's going to improve her quality of life. (27:54) Well, can't you just give it to me? (27:56) I said, cause they just said, oh, well, insurance this and that. (27:59) I had already looked up my insurance. (28:01) It wasn't that.
Cecilia (28:01) So
Scott Benner (28:02) Right.
Cecilia (28:02) We got one and it's been fine.
Scott Benner (28:04) Boy, I'll tell you, a lot of overlap this week with the the episodes and and the stuff that I said when I was away giving my talk because, I mean, thousand six, Arden's diagnosed. (28:14) We started looking for a pump for her before kindergarten. (28:18) So she was around four. (28:19) So this is 2009, February. (28:22) Right?
Scott Benner (28:23) And Mhmm. (28:23) You know, we decided we wanted to have her pump before she went to school. (28:27) We went to the, you know, the pump fair at the hospital. (28:30) Yeah. (28:31) This is very early on.
Scott Benner (28:32) Like, I believe that Omnipod was just getting going or had only been going for, you know, a short amount of time. (28:39) And they had all these pot pumps laid out on tables. (28:42) Right? (28:42) Just beautiful Mhmm. (28:43) Everywhere.
Scott Benner (28:44) I should point out that I think that every one of those pumps that was there probably doesn't exist anymore except for
Cecilia (28:48) I was gonna say probably not.
Scott Benner (28:49) Yeah. (28:49) Except for the Omnipod. (28:50) Right? (28:51) It was kind of a conference room, but it was pretty big. (28:53) There were a lot of tables in the middle, a lot of people milling around, probably fifty, seventy people in there looking at pumps.
Scott Benner (28:58) The back of the room had this kind of weird cutout. (29:01) It was sort of triangular in the corner for some reason. (29:03) There was a table in it. (29:04) And as I was looking around, my wife was looking around, I looked up and I saw this table on the other side of the room. (29:09) There was something on it.
Scott Benner (29:10) I started walking towards it. (29:12) But as I got closer and closer to it, I realized this is not part of the display. (29:16) This is like the crap table at the event where they threw all the stuff. (29:19) But I kept Sure. (29:20) I kept walking to it for some reason.
Scott Benner (29:22) And as I got closer, I saw you know, honestly, I saw an Omnipod that it looked like somebody threw on the table. (29:29) It was the Omnipod box and a, you know, a dummy controller and, you you see there for demo reasons and a pod. (29:35) The best I can explain is it looked like somebody was tasked to put it on the table, got about five or six feet from the corner and was like, screw it, and just pitched it into the corner. (29:43) You know what I mean? (29:44) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (29:44) I walked over and I picked through it and I looked at it and I took it back to my wife and I was like, hey, yo, check this out. (29:50) You know, this is not a tubed, first of all. (29:54) I think that's a big deal. (29:55) And I was like, and it's disposable. (29:57) I kinda stood there and, you know, philosophized with my wife for a second.
Scott Benner (30:00) I was like, well, they'll update this one day and we'll just get the updates. (30:03) Like, there won't be any, like, oh, no. (30:05) That's the one you bought. (30:06) You're stuck with it for a while. (30:08) And then we took it to the the practitioner and we're like, this is we've found ours.
Scott Benner (30:12) We're getting this one. (30:13) Oh, Arden can't use that. (30:15) She's too lean. (30:16) She's too young. (30:16) She doesn't use enough insulin.
Scott Benner (30:17) And we pushed back and said, like, no. (30:21) You know what? (30:22) Like, we're gonna do this. (30:23) You know? (30:23) Like, this is the one we're gonna we're gonna try.
Scott Benner (30:26) And she pushed harder, then she went and got, like, you know, somebody above her to push on us. (30:31) That person looked us in the face and gave us like, just looked at us almost like four years. (30:35) And I was like, what? (30:36) She goes, you're stuck with this for four years if you pick it. (30:40) Your insurance won't let you switch.
Scott Benner (30:42) You're stuck. (30:42) Now I realize everything's different now. (30:44) But, like, this is this is the level that they were, like, leaning into it with. (30:48) You know, it comes out later. (30:49) They just didn't they didn't know anything about it.
Scott Benner (30:51) They didn't wanna look like they didn't know what they were doing.
Cecilia (30:54) Yep. (30:55) I figured that out real fast myself.
Scott Benner (30:57) I was like, you are kidding me. (30:59) Then meanwhile, you're at home with a 31 blood sugar and your nine year old, like, being like, is this gonna be every day of my life?
Cecilia (31:07) Yeah. (31:07) That was my thought. (31:08) I'm like, I'm never gonna sleep again.
Scott Benner (31:10) Yeah. (31:10) Oh, yeah. (31:11) Oh, no. (31:11) No. (31:11) Plus, you got other, impediments on top of you.
Scott Benner (31:14) DOCD stuff and, like, that must have hit you really hard.
Cecilia (31:17) Yeah. (31:18) Yeah. (31:18) I mean, we got it figured out though, and then we got her on the Moby mid December, so she was chugging along less than two months after diagnosis.
Scott Benner (31:27) So Yeah. (31:27) It's crazy that the people who you believe are there to help you are the ones
Cecilia (31:34) And you have to fight the hardest against.
Scott Benner (31:36) Yeah.
Cecilia (31:36) Truly.
Scott Benner (31:36) They're you from getting to the help. (31:39) Yeah. (31:39) And then for some reason that if you ask them to contextualize that they have none. (31:43) Like, why do I have to wait a year? (31:45) You know?
Cecilia (31:46) That's yeah. (31:47) And I'm yeah. (31:48) That was my strategy, honestly, because I knew what were they gonna say.
Scott Benner (31:53) Alright. (31:53) How's your daughter doing with all this?
Cecilia (31:56) Really good. (31:56) I mean, she has her days, obviously. (31:59) We just had she changed her pump site the other day, and it I don't know. (32:02) It ended up being a really sore spot. (32:04) She hadn't she wanted to change it, but she didn't wanna change it because it hurts.
Cecilia (32:08) And we have moments like that. (32:09) But for the most part, she does really, really well. (32:12) When she got diagnosed, it was actually during fall break, so we weren't even in school. (32:16) And that Monday, so what? (32:19) Thursday, Friday, Saturday, five days after diagnosis, she was back to school.
Cecilia (32:23) And I had never met a school nurse before. (32:25) And I just I walked into her office with a bag of supplies and was like, I don't know what I'm doing. (32:31) Please help me.
Scott Benner (32:32) And But she said
Cecilia (32:36) She just kinda looked at me, because then, of course, I had started crying. (32:40) My husband was going into what he thought he should say, and I was we were still not on the same page. (32:45) It had been five days. (32:46) And this poor nurse, I love her to death. (32:48) She's amazing.
Cecilia (32:49) Was just kinda looking at us like, what the hell? (32:51) It's 7AM on a Monday morning. (32:53) Can we take a minute? (32:55) But, you know, she did she's been great.
Scott Benner (32:59) You were like, no. (33:00) I don't have a minute. (33:01) I'm in a panic. (33:02) Thank you.
Cecilia (33:02) Correct.
Scott Benner (33:03) Mhmm. (33:04) What did it feel like? (33:05) Because when I dropped Arden off, I felt like for sure she was gonna die there.
Cecilia (33:09) Yeah. (33:09) I was sobbing, walking out, and I said, I don't even know how to take care of her. (33:13) How am I supposed to trust this stranger to take care of her?
Scott Benner (33:16) Oh, I had that exact same exact thought. (33:18) I can't do this right.
Cecilia (33:19) Yeah.
Scott Benner (33:19) I've been at it for four years, and I'm still figuring out or I don't know how long it had been then. (33:24) Maybe three three years. (33:25) And I was like, I still don't really know what I'm doing. (33:27) You're gonna do it? (33:28) You know, that's Right.
Cecilia (33:30) Yeah. (33:30) Yeah.
Scott Benner (33:31) You're not gonna care like the way I
Cecilia (33:33) do. (33:33) She's right. (33:34) And and not that I knew what I was doing either, especially five days later, but she has turned out to be I could cry talking about her. (33:41) She's also an ER nurse. (33:42) She was just I don't know.
Cecilia (33:44) She's the best.
Scott Benner (33:45) That's awesome. (33:46) Mhmm. (33:46) What do you think about her maid or grave? (33:49) Is it empathy? (33:50) Is it her understanding?
Scott Benner (33:52) Her willingness to communicate?
Cecilia (33:53) All of it. (33:54) Really? (33:54) All of it. (33:55) She has the same sense of dark humor that I have. (33:58) She added the Follow app onto her personal phone, kept an eye on her, and she was like, you know, I wanna learn what she looks like when she's low.
Cecilia (34:06) Because this school, I think, has seven, eight hundred kids, and my daughter is I think she was the third the second diabetic at this point, and then two weeks later, they got another one, which is strange. (34:18) But she just she was she did whatever I asked. (34:22) I didn't have to fight her. (34:23) We worked together on some things, especially for gym class. (34:27) We were like, oh, well, this didn't work last week.
Cecilia (34:28) What if we tried this this week? (34:30) And she was just great.
Scott Benner (34:32) She's one nurse for 700 kids? (34:35) Yeah. (34:36) And and she still put this kind of effort into it. (34:38) Yeah. (34:39) And yet I hear stories from other people, they can't get their nurses to do anything.
Cecilia (34:43) Yeah. (34:43) She I mean, there is a health room assistant too, but she's not she's not a nurse. (34:47) She's great too. (34:48) I love her to pieces. (34:50) Yeah.
Cecilia (34:50) Emily is just she's something else.
Scott Benner (34:53) That's extra special. (34:54) That's awesome. (34:55) Mhmm. (34:56) Would you say that there's gonna be some education when your husband comes back for him? (35:01) Because he's he left six months after her diagnosis.
Scott Benner (35:04) Right? (35:04) Ish? (35:05) Am I about right on that?
Cecilia (35:07) About ten ish months. (35:07) No. (35:08) He's he's good now.
Scott Benner (35:09) He's good. (35:09) He knows what to do now.
Cecilia (35:10) Oh, yeah. (35:10) Okay. (35:10) Yeah.
Scott Benner (35:11) Be fine when he gets back. (35:13) What about her? (35:14) Like, what level of I guess, what percentage do you think she's taking care of things, and what percentage are you helping?
Cecilia (35:20) That's a good question, and maybe you'll be able to help answer it. (35:23) So we had a little incident with a sub nurse at school. (35:26) So we had her paperwork actually changed to self management. (35:31) That being said, she's not out there winging it on her own. (35:34) I text her at snack time.
Cecilia (35:36) I text her at lunchtime. (35:36) I we text all the time. (35:38) For a while, she was not feeling her lows, and she's starting to really get pretty good at that. (35:45) So she carries, like, her stuff with her, and usually after recess, she knows to have a little a little treat. (35:51) She knows how to carb count.
Cecilia (35:53) If I forget to text, you know, fifteen minutes before lunch, she's texting me, hey. (35:57) We forgot to do pre bolus. (35:59) So she's doing great. (36:02) She does all her own site changes. (36:03) She was doing all of that even with the injections Yeah.
Cecilia (36:06) The day we got home.
Scott Benner (36:07) Well, she sounds like she's doing well for a year. (36:09) And
Cecilia (36:10) Yeah.
Scott Benner (36:10) Yeah. (36:10) Honestly. (36:11) How are her friends handling it? (36:13) Is she having any trouble with, you know, classmates, people being crappy to her? (36:17) Or
Cecilia (36:18) No. (36:19) Luckily, she actually made a little PowerPoint presentation last year and and, you know, told her taught her class about it because, you know, her stuff was beeping occasionally, and they've all been really receptive. (36:30) There was one little boy this year who brought in brownies, and he his mom stopped me in the car line, and she was like, you know, he wanted me to tell tell you that, you know, we need to make sure that we have the carb count because Alan has to have insulin, and she could still have it. (36:44) We just have to know, you know, the carb count and give her some insulin ahead of time. (36:47) And I'm like, oh, that's so sweet.
Scott Benner (36:49) Yeah. (36:49) And he knew he had it right too.
Cecilia (36:51) He did.
Scott Benner (36:52) Yeah. (36:52) Mhmm. (36:52) I saw his panic attack. (36:53) It must have been a hell of a PowerPoint.
Cecilia (36:55) I guess so. (36:57) I don't know how to make those, so she was on her own.
Scott Benner (36:59) I don't know how to make. (37:01) What do you do? (37:01) Are you stay home or you have a job? (37:03) What do you do during the day?
Cecilia (37:04) I stay while I work from home.
Scott Benner (37:06) Okay. (37:07) And so it's not trouble for you to kinda keep abreast of what's happening with her blood sugar?
Cecilia (37:11) Not at all.
Scott Benner (37:12) Do you find yourself communicating with her while she's at school? (37:16) Yeah. (37:17) Texting?
Cecilia (37:17) Well, yes. (37:19) Only I I mean, I'm not texting her to say, hey. (37:21) How's science class going? (37:22) But Right. (37:23) You know, I have my alerts set.
Cecilia (37:24) I know what time she goes to lunch or recess or gym class, and I just I glance at it before she has one of those things, see if we need to be doing anything, and we kinda handle it through there.
Scott Benner (37:34) What's your backup? (37:35) Like, is your if something goes wrong, how do you have it set up? (37:38) Do you do you call directly to the nurse? (37:40) The nurse is obviously following as well, but doesn't mean they see it right away. (37:44) How do you do all that?
Scott Benner (37:46) Have you not needed it yet?
Cecilia (37:47) No. (37:47) We haven't really needed it yet, luckily. (37:50) Emily is really good. (37:51) Like, she's I have her personal phone number, and I've kinda made her my best friend now. (37:55) So Mhmm.
Cecilia (37:56) She's always really responsive. (37:58) I've never had the only issue we had was that one day when she was out sick and there was a sub that didn't want to give her insulin for her lunch because she had already had insulin that morning.
Scott Benner (38:08) Oh, one time? (38:09) Good enough?
Cecilia (38:10) Yeah. (38:10) I said, that's not how it works.
Scott Benner (38:12) Was she older? (38:14) No. (38:15) No. (38:16) Okay. (38:16) Mm-mm.
Scott Benner (38:16) Misinformed a bit.
Cecilia (38:18) Yeah.
Scott Benner (38:18) Did she work in a hospital previously?
Cecilia (38:21) I have no idea.
Scott Benner (38:22) You know
Cecilia (38:22) what mean?
Scott Benner (38:22) Would Try to
Cecilia (38:23) I don't think so.
Scott Benner (38:24) Trying to think where that that idea came from.
Cecilia (38:27) I don't know, but I was we fixed that real quick.
Scott Benner (38:30) We fixed that real quick.
Cecilia (38:31) Because we we kinda got into it a little bit, and I was like, no. (38:35) We we're not playing this game.
Scott Benner (38:36) I don't know if I'm proud of this or not or if I'm ashamed, but in high school, I mean, Arden used the nurse's office as a place to, like, go swap a pot if she needed to. (38:46) You know what
Cecilia (38:46) I mean?
Scott Benner (38:46) Yeah. (38:46) Like, she was not not involved with these people at all. (38:50) Yeah. (38:50) One day, I realized that one of the nurses called Arden's endocrinologist for something.
Cecilia (38:57) Oh, I feel like did you do an episode about this? (38:59) Because I feel like I listened to it and was yelling along and
Scott Benner (39:01) I don't know. (39:02) But that lady might still be afraid of the telephone because I lost my head, you know?
Cecilia (39:08) Yep. (39:09) I did too. (39:09) To we had an emergency 504 meeting with the nursing director for the district, everybody. (39:15) And I was like, you guys aren't touching her anymore. (39:17) It's Emily or it's nobody.
Scott Benner (39:19) I was like, you gotta mind your own fucking business. (39:21) You know what I mean? (39:22) Like
Cecilia (39:22) Yes. (39:24) A 100%.
Scott Benner (39:24) I was like, I don't care. (39:26) I really don't. (39:26) I I have absolutely no care at all in the world why you thought it was okay to contact her doctor without telling talking to me first.
Cecilia (39:33) And No. (39:34) Not.
Scott Benner (39:35) It's crazy. (39:36) And then, by the way, I've heard other people like, oh, it's nice. (39:38) They got ahold of the doctor. (39:38) And then I'm like, I maybe it's just the way I think of it, but, like, that seemed like a line to me. (39:43) You know?
Cecilia (39:43) You know, I don't even really trust the doctor at this point. (39:46) So that would be a hard no for me.
Scott Benner (39:48) Well, yeah. (39:49) I mean, that's it's a good point. (39:50) The doctor, if I line all the years up and really look through it, didn't wanna increase Arden's thyroid medication when she needed it, misdiagnosed her thyroid thing as a heart problem, told us her eight A one C was okay when she was younger, you know, on and on and on and on. (40:08) And by the way, lovely people. (40:09) If I met them right now, I'd sit down at dinner with them.
Cecilia (40:11) Awesome people. (40:11) Percent.
Scott Benner (40:12) Yeah. (40:12) Yeah. (40:12) Yeah.
Cecilia (40:12) 100%.
Scott Benner (40:13) But so now I got those people and the school nurse, and they're gonna autonomously make decisions about Arden without talking to me even? (40:20) Yeah. (40:20) Yeah. (40:21) Of your mind.
Cecilia (40:21) My mind.
Scott Benner (40:22) Yeah. (40:22) Yeah. (40:23) I wouldn't what? (40:25) Snow. (40:26) And, you know what, I think I started out okay on the call.
Scott Benner (40:29) I wanna be clear. (40:30) I don't think I jumped on the call. (40:31) I don't think I was yelling while the phone was being
Cecilia (40:33) I started out that way too. (40:35) I did not finish that way.
Scott Benner (40:37) Well, I thought and then I was just like, oh, good. (40:40) You thought. (40:41) It's great. (40:41) Go make your own goddamn baby.
Cecilia (40:43) Yeah. (40:44) Yeah. (40:45) Uh-huh.
Scott Benner (40:47) You want something to take care of? (40:48) Get a puppy. (40:49) Leave my kid alone.
Cecilia (40:50) Oh, yeah.
Scott Benner (40:51) Here's what I need you to do. (40:52) It's all written down right here. (40:53) It's very simple. (40:54) Just do
Cecilia (40:55) And that was my thing. (40:56) I said you it was made clear to me that you did not even read the orders that are there. (41:01) And it just snowballed from there.
Scott Benner (41:03) I have to tell you, not only that, at this point, nor does Kara at school, these people were not involved with her at all.
Cecilia (41:10) Yeah. (41:10) That's even weirder.
Scott Benner (41:11) Like, how did I get in your crosshairs today?
Cecilia (41:14) Right.
Scott Benner (41:14) You know what I mean? (41:15) Like, what? (41:16) You're bored? (41:17) Like, was this before they put games on your phone? (41:19) Like, what's happening exactly?
Scott Benner (41:21) Oh my gosh. (41:22) Anyway. (41:23) Alright. (41:23) She has I'm sorry. (41:23) She has TandemObi.
Scott Benner (41:24) I wanna just say tandemdiabetes.com/juicebox if you'd like to learn more about that. (41:28) We should use Dexcom with that. (41:29) Right?
Cecilia (41:30) Yeah. (41:30) The g seven.
Scott Benner (41:31) Dexcom.com/juicebox. (41:33) And where are you at with the technology? (41:35) You love it? (41:36) You hate it?
Cecilia (41:37) Oh, I love it.
Scott Benner (41:38) You see room for improvement? (41:39) Like, what what's your feedback on all of it?
Cecilia (41:41) You know, the Dexcom, we've had some fights.
Scott Benner (41:45) Mhmm.
Cecilia (41:45) But overall, it's great. (41:49) I can't complain. (41:49) It's better than not having it.
Scott Benner (41:51) Well, yeah. (41:52) That's for sure. (41:53) You know, it feels like you're only in it for a year, so it'd be real it's interesting to hear from you on that because you had enough of an experience in the beginning to know that not having a CGM is tough. (42:05) Right? (42:05) And then Mhmm.
Scott Benner (42:06) And you've only been using it for, you know, I would imagine, like, eleven months now. (42:10) Yeah. (42:11) Right? (42:11) And Mhmm. (42:12) Not I mean, technology.
Scott Benner (42:14) Nothing's perfect. (42:15) It's got its limitations. (42:16) It, you know, probably fails sometimes or whatnot. (42:19) But it's interesting to hear your feedback on it because you're so new. (42:23) You're not, like, entrenched.
Scott Benner (42:24) You don't have a ton of, you know
Cecilia (42:26) Yeah. (42:26) Bias. (42:27) Mean, I really don't know what I'm doing. (42:30) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (42:32) I don't know what I'm doing.
Cecilia (42:33) We're doing the best we can every day.
Scott Benner (42:36) No. (42:36) It sounds like you're doing pretty well. (42:39) You know? (42:39) Don't you do you not feel that way?
Cecilia (42:41) Figuring it out.
Scott Benner (42:42) Do you do you feel accomplished at this point with it?
Cecilia (42:45) Yeah. (42:45) I don't feel, panicked about it anymore. (42:48) Even, you know, this summer, we have a trampoline in our backyard. (42:51) And that proved to be quite challenging over the summer, and I got to a point where I'm like, have tried this. (42:57) I've tried that.
Cecilia (42:58) I'm I'm not getting it right, but there's gotta be a way we can make this work. (43:02) And we had an appointment over the summer because they still have a score every three months. (43:07) And I you know, I was talking to the endocrinologist. (43:09) I'm like, you have any suggestions? (43:10) She was like, oh, well, have you tried doing this with basil, doing that with basil?
Cecilia (43:14) And I'm like, yes. (43:15) I've tried all of that. (43:16) And she kinda just stared at me. (43:17) And I'm like, oh, okay.
Scott Benner (43:19) That was the end?
Cecilia (43:20) I'm I'm on my own with this again. (43:22) And
Scott Benner (43:22) Sorry. (43:23) I'm not lit. (43:23) It is. (43:23) I'm just imagining It was I
Cecilia (43:25) was just like, are you for real? (43:26) Have
Scott Benner (43:28) you tried to tempt Basil? (43:29) I have. (43:30) Okay. (43:31) Well, we're done, I guess.
Cecilia (43:32) We kinda got into, like I don't wanna call it an argument, but she was trying to tell me the pump couldn't do something that I knew that it could. (43:40) And it got to the point where she took my daughter's phone, left the room with the diabetes educator. (43:47) They had a little powwow somewhere and came back and basically had to be like, oh, yeah. (43:50) You're right. (43:51) I know.
Cecilia (43:52) We left the appointment and my husband goes, cool. (43:54) You do not like her, do you? (43:56) I said, oh, was it that obvious?
Scott Benner (43:58) We googled it and figured out you were right. (44:00) Thank you.
Cecilia (44:00) Right. (44:00) Like, sorry.
Scott Benner (44:02) What were you trying to tell them the phone did you or the the app did? (44:05) Do you remember?
Cecilia (44:06) That you could set a temp basal for however long or?
Scott Benner (44:09) Wait. (44:09) Your diabetes educator didn't think you could set a temp basal for a certain amount of time?
Cecilia (44:14) Yeah. (44:15) They thought you could only do it I don't know. (44:17) It was right after Tandem came out with a Mobi that you could Oh. (44:20) They did the Control IQ Plus update or something. (44:23) I don't remember exactly what it was called.
Scott Benner (44:25) But In fairness to her, they had just updated the software to do that. (44:28) It didn't do it before.
Cecilia (44:29) No. (44:30) It did. (44:30) It just did it for longer now, and she thought it didn't do it at all. (44:33) And so I was just I thought, okay. (44:35) Well
Scott Benner (44:35) Again, like, doesn't fill you with confidence. (44:38) Forget the Tempezil thing and the and the bouncing and the trampoline. (44:41) Put all that aside. (44:42) It makes you feel like, oh my god. (44:45) I'm alone in this.
Cecilia (44:46) Yeah. (44:47) Yeah. (44:47) That's the very couldn't problem. (44:48) Even print out the right they can look up the pump settings on however they do it. (44:54) They couldn't even print out the right ones to give to school, and so I was having to call back and get the new ones mailed.
Cecilia (45:00) And it was just, I don't know. (45:01) I mean, I guess it's kind of fine that I've figured it out on my own and I make the settings, you know, I adjust them myself. (45:08) She doesn't seem to care. (45:09) I mean, how what is she gonna argue with me? (45:11) She has a 5.4 a one c.
Cecilia (45:12) What is there to argue? (45:13) Right. (45:13) She doesn't have a bunch of lows. (45:15) So
Scott Benner (45:15) Yeah. (45:15) You're not getting to that a one c dishonestly with
Cecilia (45:18) And I Yeah. (45:19) Know. (45:19) And I just I feel bad for the new families that go in there who don't know what they're doing, who don't know to look for the podcast. (45:27) They're out there drowning, I feel.
Scott Benner (45:29) Yeah. (45:29) Well, I'm pretty sure they are. (45:30) I I there's a lot of people and I don't mean just because they haven't found me, but, like, there are a lot of people struggling with this.
Cecilia (45:36) Yeah.
Scott Benner (45:37) Yeah. (45:38) Much more than you think. (45:39) And it all you can really do is, like, tell people and and hope they are able to put put it together. (45:46) You know?
Cecilia (45:46) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (45:47) Yeah. (45:47) Just it's important to remember, I think. (45:50) The limitations of most things in life come down to humans at some point. (45:55) Like, at some point or another, you're gonna bump into the chain where you're counting on a person to know a thing, to care, to have the communication skills to, you know, get it out to you if they do know and care. (46:07) But you're also gonna bump into people who are just at work, couldn't possibly care less, don't have the knowledge at all or misguided somehow, are just poor communicators and don't know what they're talking about.
Scott Benner (46:18) And then they kinda turn that on you and they're like, oh, it's your fault. (46:22) You know, like, imagine imagine this has only been eleven, ten, you know, ten excuse me, eleven, twelve months for you. (46:28) But imagine if you never found any of this information out. (46:31) In a decade from now, your daughter's struggling and someone turns to you and says, well, you guys are noncompliant. (46:36) You're not doing what we're telling you to do.
Cecilia (46:38) Oh, I'd be so pissed off.
Scott Benner (46:39) Right. (46:39) But you might also believe it.
Cecilia (46:41) Right.
Scott Benner (46:42) Yep. (46:43) So Mhmm. (46:44) I don't know. (46:44) There's part of me that thinks the machines are gonna save us sometimes. (46:47) If it hasn't become obvious already listening to the podcast for a year, it's become obvious to me after making it for eleven years that it's completely random who's gonna be good at this and who's not going to be.
Scott Benner (46:58) And I mean on a professional side of it. (47:00) And you can't like, imagine you're diagnosed, for everybody listening, you or your kid are diagnosed. (47:06) Right? (47:07) And the hospital you go to, what they tell you, where they send you, what the people at that place understand. (47:15) Are they gonna tell you, here's a CGM, go home?
Scott Benner (47:19) Are they gonna tell you, you can't have a CGM for a year? (47:21) Anywhere in between on their understanding and their compassion and their capacity to educate, there's a spectrum of that. (47:29) And you are not in charge of which person you land on that gives you that information.
Cecilia (47:34) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (47:34) And so it is literally like a lottery whether you end up with a good endo or not.
Cecilia (47:41) Yeah. (47:41) And I wish people, and I say this outside of diabetes too, weren't afraid to question things.
Scott Benner (47:49) Yeah. (47:49) Well, that's another human limitation. (47:52) Some people can't speak up. (47:53) I'm not saying, like, they're you know, they don't have the juice or whatever. (47:57) Like, it's just some people are not wired for that.
Cecilia (48:00) No. (48:01) Mm-mm.
Scott Benner (48:01) Like like I said, like, there are just some people who are told what to do, and they're rule followers. (48:07) I think it's a pretty simple way to say it. (48:08) Which
Cecilia (48:08) I outside of my kids
Scott Benner (48:11) You are.
Cecilia (48:12) I'm kind of one of those people. (48:13) But Yeah. (48:13) When it comes to my kids, no.
Scott Benner (48:15) Yeah. (48:16) It just it doesn't happen for everybody. (48:17) No. (48:18) And and by the way, if they're listening, this is not a judgment on you either. (48:23) I just think this is how it goes.
Scott Benner (48:24) It's like, you know, it's like that thing where they hold up the picture of the dress and it's purple or it's yellow or something. (48:29) And, like, sometimes you see one and sometimes you see the other. (48:32) Sometimes you react a certain way and sometimes you don't. (48:34) I don't think it's because you're not paying attention or you don't I don't think it's any of that. (48:38) I think it's just, you know, people's personalities.
Scott Benner (48:40) So imagine what happens when a very get along to get along person bumps into an endocrinologist who doesn't know what they're doing. (48:50) That ends up with ten years from now, your a one c is, like, eight, and you're like, I'm doing good. (48:55) They told me I was doing good. (48:56) Yeah. (48:56) You don't know any better, and they don't know any better.
Scott Benner (48:59) And then your two year old is thirty two one day and says, hey. (49:03) Why are there clouds floating in front of my eyes?
Cecilia (49:05) Right. (49:05) Well, and that's why I was getting so frustrated once I started listening to more episodes. (49:09) I'm like, why are we not telling people this?
Scott Benner (49:11) That's why I'm making the podcast, honestly.
Cecilia (49:13) Yeah. (49:14) I appreciate it.
Scott Benner (49:15) Yeah. (49:15) Very beginning, my wife was like, I don't know about all this. (49:18) And I was like, are you comfortable knowing this and not telling other people?
Cecilia (49:21) Right.
Scott Benner (49:21) I was like, because I'm just not we got lucky and figured it out. (49:26) And what now we're gonna go, like, just off and live our lives and and know all those people are still, like, being diagnosed or or forgetting even being diagnosed at this point, like, plenty of people. (49:38) I found myself telling a story this weekend, and I think it fits here. (49:43) So give me give me a second if you don't mind. (49:45) Mm-mm.
Scott Benner (49:46) Before the podcast was, I guess, somehow online known as a person that if you got in contact with, I had this kind of sharp forty five minute chat I could give you on the phone. (49:55) It would kind of put you in the right direction. (49:57) Right?
Cecilia (49:58) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (49:58) And so people would often say you know, see someone online struggling and say, oh, you should reach out to this guy. (50:04) He might help you. (50:05) And I I ended up on the phone one day with a woman, best of my recollection, was kind of in her mid forties, but she was a single mom with, like, seven kids, like, a lot of kids. (50:15) And, she had type one. (50:18) So she had type one, and she gets on the phone and says, hey.
Scott Benner (50:22) Like, I struggle all the time. (50:24) People said you might be able to help. (50:25) I gave her the talk. (50:27) You know? (50:27) Next day, she reaches back to me and asks if she can text me.
Scott Benner (50:31) I say yes. (50:32) She sends me a graph. (50:34) It's super like, looks so much better. (50:36) Asks if she can call for a second, and I say, sure. (50:39) She gets on the phone.
Scott Benner (50:41) We're chatting a little bit. (50:42) She tells me what she did, how it worked, you know, she was happy. (50:46) And then she just got angry, like, really, like, viscerally angry.
Cecilia (50:50) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (50:51) And I was like, hey. (50:52) You alright? (50:53) And she goes, why didn't anybody tell me this? (50:55) Yeah. (50:56) And then she kinda started to repeat it.
Scott Benner (50:58) Yeah. (50:58) Like, why didn't anyone tell me? (51:00) She goes, I have complications. (51:02) The part I'm not telling you is that, like, during the conversation she she shared with me, she was worried not that she wasn't gonna see her kids grow up and have grandchildren. (51:11) Like, she wasn't sure she was gonna get them out of high school.
Scott Benner (51:14) Like, Jake, she was worried about dying. (51:16) Yeah. (51:16) You know what I mean? (51:17) And over and over again, the part that stuck with me, that one sentence, why didn't anyone tell me this?
Cecilia (51:23) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (51:24) And that's kinda how I feel about it now. (51:26) Like, I sort of feel like with diabetes information, I feel like this. (51:32) There's a volcano in town, and it's about to erupt. (51:36) And if I don't tell you all, you're definitely gonna get hit by the lava.
Cecilia (51:39) Yes.
Scott Benner (51:40) And if I tell you, some of you are gonna get away and some of you are gonna decide to stay and some of you might trample each other in the street, but at least you've all got a fair shake to get away from the lava. (51:51) Yes. (51:51) That's how I feel about this now. (51:53) So Yeah. (51:54) Because that woman's tone in her voice, she was crying.
Scott Benner (51:57) Why didn't anyone tell me? (51:58) I've lived with this for thirty years or more. (52:01) You only talked to me for forty five minutes on the phone. (52:04) Yeah. (52:05) Yeah.
Scott Benner (52:05) Anyway, wasted time, I find I find that deplorable. (52:09) I find it deplorable wasting people's time. (52:11) So Mhmm.
Cecilia (52:12) And that's how I felt listening to the episodes. (52:14) I would tell my husband, you know, I'd listen to them on the way to the grocery store. (52:17) I'm like, how, you know, are all these people not knowing this information? (52:20) Like, this can change everything. (52:22) It changed our whole way of how we helped her deal with it.
Scott Benner (52:25) And it's super simple too. (52:26) Like, I'll go
Cecilia (52:27) It really is.
Scott Benner (52:28) Yeah. (52:28) Let me go on to make this point. (52:29) I am not some genius telling you some super difficult thing to understand that I just happen to know and no one else knows. (52:36) And it's it's I mean, it's really it's basically diabetes common sense. (52:41) You just have to know enough of it to make sense of it to put it together before you can regurgitate it.
Scott Benner (52:46) But, like, to be a diabetes educator or anywhere in between, to be somebody at a at a clinician's office who says, come here, and we'll help you with your diabetes, who doesn't know at least as much as my dumbass does.
Cecilia (53:00) Right.
Scott Benner (53:01) It's really disgusting. (53:02) Yeah. (53:02) Yeah. (53:03) Really is. (53:04) Anyway, I'm glad you found the information.
Scott Benner (53:06) It was helpful.
Cecilia (53:07) Yeah. (53:07) Me too.
Scott Benner (53:07) Seriously. (53:08) If there's any other nice things you wanna say about me, now would be a good time. (53:11) Just kidding. (53:12) Is there anything else
Cecilia (53:12) you I mean, I just really like the podcast, and I to everybody, you know, every new mom that comes on the Facebook group, oh, we just got diagnosed. (53:19) Tag the podcast. (53:21) Tag it in TikToks. (53:22) There's a really fun girl that I follow on TikTok. (53:24) I've been telling her she needs to come on here.
Cecilia (53:26) Addie Taylor, I think her last name is. (53:30) I know Marley has tried to tell her to go on there.
Scott Benner (53:33) Marley's on it last week.
Cecilia (53:34) I was yep. (53:35) I was just listening to part two this morning, actually. (53:37) Wait.
Scott Benner (53:39) Is Addie the one who does the she have dark hair and she puts her devices on a lot? (53:43) Is that her? (53:44) Yes. (53:44) Oh, I like her. (53:45) I feel like I've been in contact with her.
Scott Benner (53:46) I don't know.
Cecilia (53:47) Well, I tagged you and she was like, no. (53:49) I can't do that. (53:50) And you said, why not?
Scott Benner (53:52) Oh, I
Cecilia (53:52) said, yeah, Addy. (53:53) Why not? (53:54) She's about to run the New York City Marathon too. (53:56) So
Scott Benner (53:57) Yeah. (53:57) Some people don't have the, I don't know, long form. (54:00) They don't wanna sit and talk or whatever. (54:02) Maybe she may listen. (54:03) Let's be honest.
Scott Benner (54:04) Maybe she thinks I'm an asshole, and she's trying to be polite. (54:08) You know that. (54:08) Maybe. (54:09) Who knows? (54:09) You have no idea.
Cecilia (54:10) But we've learned so much from her too. (54:12) And so it's, you know, it's great.
Scott Benner (54:15) Yeah.
Cecilia (54:15) It's a really good con I hate to say it's a really good community to be a part of, but I have not met one person, whether it be through a TikTok, a Facebook group, whatever, that has not been willing to help.
Scott Benner (54:28) Yeah. (54:28) No. (54:29) I hear you. (54:30) I think that the community part is super important.
Cecilia (54:32) Mhmm. (54:33) So, you know
Scott Benner (54:34) Can I ask one more question then before I Absolutely? (54:36) Yeah. (54:37) Are you more comfortable in chaos?
Cecilia (54:40) Yes.
Scott Benner (54:41) And does calm feel like something bad's about to happen?
Cecilia (54:45) Yes. (54:46) I'm always waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Scott Benner (54:48) Mhmm. (54:49) Mhmm. (54:50) Mhmm. (54:50) Catholic, by any chance? (54:52) No.
Scott Benner (54:53) No? (54:53) Okay. (54:54) So this is just the divorce thing?
Cecilia (54:56) I mean, yeah. (54:57) It's probably yeah.
Scott Benner (54:58) Any drinkers in the family growing up?
Cecilia (55:01) Yes.
Scott Benner (55:02) Have you ever looked at the Aces list?
Cecilia (55:04) Oh, I score high on that.
Scott Benner (55:05) Yeah. (55:06) Yeah. (55:06) You've already already checked that out?
Cecilia (55:07) Yeah. (55:08) Yeah. (55:08) I have. (55:09) My therapist had me do that. (55:10) Uh-huh.
Cecilia (55:11) Here it Yep.
Scott Benner (55:12) It's weird because it feels like you're playing an online game where you're winning because you're like, oh, yeah. (55:15) That's me. (55:15) That's me. (55:16) That's me. (55:16) Then you realize
Cecilia (55:17) I was like, oh, I scored so good. (55:19) And my therapist was like, no. (55:21) That's weren't this is not as funny as you think it is. (55:24) Yeah. (55:24) But, you know, you gotta laugh.
Scott Benner (55:26) Yeah. (55:27) So you have that going on. (55:29) Blah blah blah. (55:29) So how has that tran how has that translated into your parenting? (55:33) Are you are do you look
Cecilia (55:35) into I joke now that my kids are gonna have to go to therapy because I'm too involved.
Scott Benner (55:39) Oh, okay. (55:41) Way too nice to them. (55:42) Yeah. (55:43) We never had anything bad happen. (55:45) One time, I almost fell, but my mom threw herself under me before I hit the ground.
Cecilia (55:49) A 100%. (55:50) Yes. (55:51) Yeah. (55:51) I just
Scott Benner (55:52) bounced off my mom and came right back up again from my feet.
Cecilia (55:54) Yeah. (55:55) Yep. (55:56) Absolutely.
Scott Benner (55:57) It's interesting to know that. (55:58) Okay. (55:58) Alright. (55:58) I appreciate you sharing that with me here at the end. (56:00) Thank you so much.
Cecilia (56:01) You're welcome.
Scott Benner (56:02) Hold on one second for me. (56:03) I wish you would have been horrible because I could've I could have called this episode, Cecile, you're break you're breaking my heart or something like that.
Cecilia (56:10) Oh, sorry to disappoint.
Scott Benner (56:11) No. (56:12) I don't think it's I don't think you should apologize for it. (56:15) But, really, if you were just a dick one time, it would have been awesome for the title.
Cecilia (56:19) Do you know? (56:21) Didn't happen in
Scott Benner (56:22) day. (56:22) Say something terrible if you no. (56:23) I'm just kidding.
Cecilia (56:24) It's too early in the morning.
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