#1704 Red Lobster - Part 1
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Jamie shares a terrifying severe hypoglycemia story involving 911. She discusses LADA, misdiagnosis, anaphylaxis, and how her husband supports her life with Type 1 diabetes.
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Scott Benner (0:0) As the holidays approach, I wanna say welcome and thank all of my good friends for coming back to the Juice Box podcast over and over again.
Jamie (0:19) Well, I am Jamie. (0:21) I am a type one diabetic. (0:23) I was diagnosed as LADA when I was, I think, 36. (0:27) And so it's been about eight years now. (0:30) Told everyone my age pretty much, and that's me.
Scott Benner (0:36) Hey. (0:36) I'm dropping in to tell you about a small change being made to the Juice Cruise twenty twenty six schedule. (0:41) This adjustment was made by Celebrity Cruise Lines, not by me. (0:45) Anyway, we're still going out on the Celebrity Beyond cruise ship, which is awesome. (0:49) Check out the walkthrough video at juiceboxpodcast.com/juicecruise.
Scott Benner (0:54) The ship is awesome. (0:55) Still a seven night cruise. (0:57) It still leaves out of Miami on June 21. (1:00) Actually, most of this is the same. (1:02) We leave Miami June 21, head to Coco Cay in The Bahamas, but then we're going to San Juan, Puerto Rico instead of Saint Thomas.
Scott Benner (1:10) After that, Bastille, I think I'm saying that wrong, Saint Kitts And Nevis. (1:14) This place is gorgeous. (1:15) Google it. (1:16) I mean, you're probably gonna have to go to my link to get the correct spelling because my pronunciation is so bad. (1:20) But once you get the Saint Kitts and you Google it, you're gonna look and see a photo that says to you, oh, I wanna go there.
Scott Benner (1:27) Come meet other people living with type one diabetes from caregivers to children to adults. (1:33) Last year, we had a 100 people on our cruise, and it was fabulous. (1:39) You can see pictures to get at my link juiceboxpodcast.com/juicecruise. (1:44) You can see those pictures from last year there. (1:46) The link also gives you an opportunity to register for the cruise or to contact Suzanne from Cruise Planners.
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Jamie (3:31) Well, I am Jamie. (3:33) I am a type one diabetic. (3:35) I was diagnosed as LADA when I was, I think, 36. (3:39) And so it's been about eight years now. (3:42) Told everyone my age pretty much, and that's me.
Scott Benner (3:47) Jamie, I'm just looking at your notes, and I realized why you're on, and this is gonna be interesting.
Jamie (3:53) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (3:53) Oh, okay. (3:54) So you got to the podcast by way of a Facebook post. (3:57) Can you tell people what you posted about?
Jamie (4:01) Yep. (4:01) My low. (4:02) I had my first severe low ever. (4:05) It was in August where my I I think my Dexcom wasn't quite accurate, and I had probably I hadn't been feeling that well that day. (4:14) Mhmm.
Jamie (4:15) So my stomach was upset, and I had taken insulin for dinner, and I did not eat enough carbs.
Scott Benner (4:22) Okay.
Jamie (4:23) And then I realized my alarm went off, and I was 67, double arrowed down.
Scott Benner (4:28) How long after you bolus do you think that that number existed?
Jamie (4:33) Well, I looked at it with my endo, and it was, like, half an hour.
Scott Benner (4:38) And you had eaten, but just not as much as you anticipated?
Jamie (4:41) Yeah. (4:41) I that's the only only explanation that I can come up with.
Scott Benner (4:45) Okay. (4:46) So give me context. (4:48) How many carbs did you bolus for?
Jamie (4:50) 55. (4:51) I had some Cheerios.
Scott Benner (4:52) My brain goes Cheeriodios when I hear that. (4:55) I don't Is that, like, an old commercial that they don't make anymore?
Jamie (4:57) I'm not sure.
Scott Benner (4:58) Yeah. (4:58) Trust me. (4:59) If I can think of it, it's old and you don't know what it is. (5:02) So 55 carbs for Cheerios, which should definitely, you know, be reasonable. (5:08) And Mhmm.
Scott Benner (5:09) But you didn't eat them all.
Jamie (5:11) I must not have because I didn't measure it. (5:14) I don't measure anymore. (5:16) I just look at food and say, okay. (5:18) This is about what it is, and that's what I put in the pump.
Scott Benner (5:20) Would you tell me do you think that you've had that amount of Cheerios about before and used 55 carbs? (5:27) Yeah. (5:28) Could it have been the illness? (5:29) Did you have a stomach illness?
Jamie (5:30) Yeah. (5:31) My stomach was upset. (5:32) It could have very easily been that, but nobody really knows. (5:36) Yeah. (5:36) And the endocrinologist looked at it and was like, I have no idea what happened.
Scott Benner (5:41) Right. (5:41) There's some illnesses Arden gets where her insulin needs go way down.
Jamie (5:45) Really?
Scott Benner (5:46) And I've I've also seen illnesses that have put her her insulin needs up, but I I've seen both. (5:52) So I wonder but rest of the day, you were okay, though. (5:55) Right? (5:55) You were eating and bolusing previous to that. (5:57) It was okay.
Jamie (5:58) Yeah. (5:58) Yeah. (5:59) I don't remember what else I ate that day, but I'm pretty sedentary for work. (6:03) I sit at a computer all day long pretty much. (6:06) So, you know, there's not a whole lot of movement.
Jamie (6:08) Logged out of work, decided I want some dinner, and ate some dinner, quick cleaned up a couple things around the house, and then sat down to change my pump. (6:16) And while I was changing my pump, my alarm went off, and I was like, oh, shit.
Scott Benner (6:20) Yeah. (6:21) That's weird.
Jamie (6:22) Yeah. (6:22) And I'm I, like, pretty much fell over.
Scott Benner (6:25) Wait. (6:26) Wait. (6:26) Hold on. (6:26) We'll get that. (6:27) But let me but first, have no business saying this, and, of course, I'm not judging you.
Scott Benner (6:31) But, this is maybe to everybody listening, not just to you. (6:34) I'd love it if you guys didn't eat cereal for dinner. (6:36) Are you eating are you an adult that eats cereal for dinner? (6:39) Why did you not make yourself a piece of chicken and a and a broccoli and something to go with it? (6:43) What what happened there?
Jamie (6:44) I mean, I was home alone. (6:45) My my husband was working late, and I was like, I don't feel like eating real food today. (6:51) My stomach had been upset. (6:52) Cheerios sounded good, so that's what I had. (6:54) Alright.
Scott Benner (6:55) Do you sugar the Cheerios? (6:57) Nope. (6:58) Yeah. (6:58) I'm such a I grew up so poorly. (7:01) I would definitely have sprinkled sugar over top of Cheerios when I was a kid.
Jamie (7:05) I don't even add milk to them usually. (7:07) I eat them dry right from the box. (7:09) I mean
Scott Benner (7:10) Was there milk in it this time? (7:12) No. (7:13) No. (7:13) You're just eating a handful of Cheerios like a homeless person. (7:17) Is that what you're telling me?
Jamie (7:18) Yeah. (7:19) Yes. (7:19) Much. (7:20) Yep.
Scott Benner (7:21) Sitting in your house just being like, ugh, long day. (7:25) Handful of Cheerios. (7:27) My god.
Jamie (7:28) I was actually sitting on my bed eating a handful of Cheerios straight from the box.
Scott Benner (7:32) I don't want you people eating in your bedrooms either. (7:34) Don't eat in your bedroom. (7:35) That's not okay. (7:36) Do I have to make a list for everybody?
Jamie (7:38) Maybe. (7:39) Alright. (7:39) Maybe. (7:39) Yep.
Scott Benner (7:40) So okay.
Jamie (7:41) Might be good.
Scott Benner (7:42) Yeah. (7:43) Don't eat I don't want you eating on your bed. (7:45) Not after you're 15. (7:46) Okay?
Jamie (7:47) I mean, I was home alone. (7:50) There was nobody here. (7:52) It was it was a quiet night. (7:53) I was getting you know, I was gonna get ready to bed, go to bed early.
Scott Benner (7:57) That that that sounds nice. (7:59) Yeah. (7:59) Yeah. (7:59) Yeah. (7:59) Were you were you, like, cuddle alarm.
Scott Benner (8:01) Cuddled up in bed eating Cheerios, watching TV, or just, like, sitting on the I I need a picture of it. (8:06) Or were you just sitting sadly on the edge of the bed?
Jamie (8:08) No. (8:09) I was, like, watching a TV show. (8:11) I don't even remember what I was watching.
Scott Benner (8:12) It's okay.
Jamie (8:12) And I was just chilling with the blankets and Yeah. (8:15) The cats were here.
Scott Benner (8:17) This makes more sense. (8:18) It makes more sense to me. (8:19) Alright. (8:20) Okay. (8:20) I take it back.
Scott Benner (8:21) It's okay. (8:22) Yeah. (8:22) But you've got $67.02 down pretty quickly after you bolus. (8:27) And you said you you fell over. (8:28) Do you mean, like, physically passed out, or do you mean, like, it stunned you?
Jamie (8:32) Like, I tried to stand up because my backseemia was in my purse. (8:36) Oh. (8:37) On the other side of the house. (8:39) And I'm like, I need my Baqsimi. (8:41) You know?
Jamie (8:41) And I wasn't was changing my pump, I had already taken my my pod off. (8:45) Mhmm. (8:46) Didn't occur to me at the time. (8:48) I kept my Baqsimi and my kit, and the kit was on the bed with me.
Scott Benner (8:53) Oh, were you already disoriented?
Jamie (8:55) I was already disoriented. (8:57) I stood up. (8:58) I fell over. (8:59) Somehow managed to hold on to my phone. (9:02) I grab I always keep grape soda for middle of the night lows
Scott Benner (9:07) Mhmm.
Jamie (9:07) On the nightstand. (9:09) And I grabbed the three cans there, stood back up, and tried to walk towards the other end of the house again. (9:15) And I only made it halfway, and I called 911 because I was afraid that I was gonna throw up the soda because I get really nauseous when I'm low or dropping fast.
Scott Benner (9:22) Yeah. (9:22) Yeah.
Jamie (9:23) And I knew my husband wasn't gonna be home until, like, 09:30, and it was, like, 08:30. (9:27) I'm like, if he doesn't get here till 09:30, 10:00, I'm in big trouble.
Scott Benner (9:31) Uh-huh. (9:32) You had time to think about all that.
Jamie (9:33) My brain went, like, super fast. (9:35) It was really weird.
Scott Benner (9:36) Okay. (9:37) And the entire time you're walking across the house, you're walking across the house to get to the backseat me, which was on the bed where you started?
Jamie (9:44) Yep.
Scott Benner (9:44) Oh, wow. (9:45) Mhmm. (9:46) Okay.
Jamie (9:46) So Yeah.
Scott Benner (9:49) Can you describe a little bit in hindsight? (9:51) Is there a way that you can tell me that it feels? (9:55) Is it scary? (9:57) Is it does it feel like time standing still? (9:59) Like, is there any kind of, like, you know, big ideas you could put to the experience?
Jamie (10:03) My body felt really heavy, and my brain felt really adrenaline soaked. (10:09) That's, like, the two biggest things.
Scott Benner (10:12) Okay.
Jamie (10:12) And the nine one one dispatcher kept telling me that I was like, I don't even know how much insulin I have on board. (10:18) And she's like, it's okay. (10:19) They'll give you your insulin when they get there.
Scott Benner (10:22) And you're like, no, bitch. (10:24) I don't want insulin. (10:25) No insulin. (10:26) Yes.
Jamie (10:26) And I was so angry because she wasn't understanding me Mhmm. (10:30) That I didn't need insulin. (10:31) I needed sugar. (10:33) And but she kept saying, it'll be okay. (10:35) They'll get you your insulin.
Jamie (10:36) I'm like, but I don't need insulin. (10:38) You're not understanding me. (10:39) And she's like, it's okay. (10:40) They're on their way.
Scott Benner (10:41) She's like, I might not understand, but I sent somebody who hopefully will. (10:45) Now
Jamie (10:45) Right.
Scott Benner (10:45) Was your door locked? (10:47) You know what? (10:48) Let me take that back. (10:49) There's no way your door was locked. (10:50) If you're eating Cheerios on your bed, your door is not locked.
Scott Benner (10:53) Because that would be on my list, by the way, Jamie. (10:55) When I write down a list of things to do in life, it would be every time you come through a door from the exterior, lock the door.
Jamie (11:01) Yeah. (11:01) No. (11:02) I usually leave so we have Ring cameras, so it alerts me if someone's moving around outside the house. (11:07) So if I'm home alone, I typically leave the door unlocked. (11:12) Oh my god.
Jamie (11:12) And this is a prime example of why.
Scott Benner (11:15) Well well, now yeah. (11:16) Also, I've heard other type ones talk about this. (11:19) That they in the back of their head, they're always thinking if I have an emerge how is emergency services gonna get in the house if if the door is locked?
Jamie (11:26) Right? (11:26) Do you know how expensive that would have been if they had to kick my door in?
Scott Benner (11:29) Tell me that door is not locked because you were worried about the expense if something like this would have happened.
Jamie (11:34) That is the big and I was worried about the cost for having 12 firefighters and paramedics show up at my house that night too. (11:40) I was like, are they gonna send me a bill?
Scott Benner (11:42) Did they charge you by the guy?
Jamie (11:43) I have no idea. (11:44) I've not gotten a bill yet, so I don't think I'm gonna get a bill. (11:47) But, yeah, it was it was there was a lot of people in my house.
Scott Benner (11:50) Even though it's the 2025 and things seem to have settled down, let me point out that I know that women could be firemen too, and they would be fire people or fire ladies Yeah. (11:58) Or fire persons. (12:00) I don't know exactly what. (12:01) I've fought fires with women right next to me. (12:03) So I just said guy Yeah.
Scott Benner (12:06) Because that's how it occurs to me. (12:07) But, so moving oh my god. (12:09) I almost fell. (12:10) How? (12:11) I know how you felt when your blood sugar was low for a second.
Scott Benner (12:13) I
Jamie (12:15) know. (12:15) I thought about that later too. (12:16) Like, how did I my nightstand had sharp corners on it. (12:19) How did I avoid the corners of my nightstand when I went down? (12:23) I don't I have no idea.
Scott Benner (12:24) Did you have a seizure at any point? (12:26) Lose consciousness? (12:26) I
Jamie (12:28) don't know if I had a seizure. (12:30) I was not fully unconscious. (12:32) I know that. (12:33) But I was definitely uncontrollably shaking, and I thought I had peed my pants. (12:38) Oh.
Jamie (12:39) But I didn't.
Scott Benner (12:39) Oh, I was gonna say don't tell me if you did or not. (12:41) We'll find out later. (12:42) That'll be fun. (12:42) You felt like you peed your pants, but you didn't.
Jamie (12:46) I was so sweaty, and my body was,
Scott Benner (12:48) like Oh.
Jamie (12:48) Hot. (12:49) It was, like, weird hot feelings, like, all over my body.
Scott Benner (12:52) Did you get any of the numb lips, numb numb numb tongue?
Jamie (12:56) No. (12:57) I haven't had that since I was first diagnosed.
Scott Benner (13:00) Okay. (13:01) How about your vision? (13:02) Did your vision change?
Jamie (13:04) Yeah. (13:04) I couldn't it was like tunnel vision.
Scott Benner (13:06) Mhmm. (13:07) You were getting close. (13:08) So Yeah. (13:10) Did they get there? (13:11) The the the 12 women firefighters, did they show up?
Jamie (13:15) They did. (13:15) And they all just basically sat there and watched me drink a soda and made me eat a protein bar to level it out. (13:23) And then, like, they hooked me up to the life pack. (13:25) So they checked my blood pressure, which was low.
Scott Benner (13:28) Yeah.
Jamie (13:28) My heart rate was extra high. (13:31) That was about it.
Scott Benner (13:32) Gotcha.
Jamie (13:33) I think they did an EKG too because they had I had little sticky things on my ankles.
Scott Benner (13:38) You weren't even sure?
Jamie (13:39) I don't remember.
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Jamie (15:54) Against medical advice, I did chose I chose to stay home. (15:57) They wanted to take me in, and I said no because I I knew that one I would have to pay for. (16:02) But I also knew it was a low, and I could feel my blood sugar coming back up.
Scott Benner (16:06) Yeah.
Jamie (16:06) And my husband was on his way home, so they were all pulling out of the driveway as he was pulling in.
Scott Benner (16:12) Did you call him first, or was he like, why is there a fire truck at my house?
Jamie (16:16) I did. (16:16) I called him because I was afraid. (16:18) I didn't want him to worry. (16:19) And I was afraid one of the neighbors would see them all at my house and call him.
Scott Benner (16:23) Oh, yeah. (16:23) That's a good point. (16:24) Hey. (16:25) There's, five trucks in front of your home and sirens and lights and yeah. (16:29) Yeah.
Scott Benner (16:29) Okay. (16:29) That's a good idea. (16:30) Yeah. (16:31) So then it didn't take you long to come out of it. (16:34) So when you got low, you drank the grape soda.
Scott Benner (16:37) By the way, how did you say you were 12? (16:39) How old are you? (16:39) You're you're 31?
Jamie (16:40) I'm 44 now. (16:42) 44.
Scott Benner (16:43) Just eating grape soda and Cheerios in your Yep. (16:48) But so you you got the soda in. (16:50) You were afraid you might vomit up the soda. (16:53) You Yep. (16:54) Felt poorly enough that you were like, I gotta get my glucagon.
Scott Benner (16:57) So my question is is many other times in your life have you thought, hey. (17:00) Where's my glucagon? (17:01) I need it.
Jamie (17:01) Never.
Scott Benner (17:02) Never. (17:02) Okay. (17:03) So oh, that's good. (17:04) So your brain was helping you. (17:05) It was like, oh, this is a problem.
Scott Benner (17:07) I should have my glucagon.
Jamie (17:08) It was trying. (17:10) Yeah.
Scott Benner (17:10) It was try it was trying. (17:11) So you hadn't ever used it before. (17:13) You didn't use it this time. (17:14) You Nope. (17:15) Defaulted during your your traversing the house to calling 911.
Jamie (17:20) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (17:21) I mean, have you been able to look back since then? (17:23) Do you know how long it took them to get to you?
Jamie (17:25) From when I called 911 to when I see them show up on the camera outside the house, it was roughly eight minutes.
Scott Benner (17:32) Wow.
Jamie (17:33) It felt like ten years.
Scott Benner (17:34) Yeah.
Jamie (17:36) And they they go by the house here Uh-huh. (17:39) And they whoop their sirens, I know they're closed. (17:42) And then it still felt like it took them twenty years to get here.
Scott Benner (17:46) Oh, so after you could hear them, it's so everything was felt like you know, have you ever heard Ardentel? (17:52) I don't know if she's talked about it on here or if I've repeated it. (17:55) She had a pretty severe low blood sugar after her senior prom, and that she felt like she was she called it glitching or jumping. (18:04) I think she called it jumping, where she was moving across the room, but, like, she was I don't know. (18:10) Like, imagine you're in a room that's, you know, fifteen, twenty feet long, and you're 20 feet from the wall.
Scott Benner (18:15) And then the next thing you know, you're 10 feet from the wall. (18:17) And the next thing you know, you're two feet from the wall, but you don't remember any of the distance in between. (18:22) Did you did you ever have that?
Jamie (18:23) No. (18:24) No. (18:24) I didn't. (18:25) No.
Scott Benner (18:25) Yeah. (18:26) Okay.
Jamie (18:26) Because I heard them, and I was like, if they had just stopped on the busy street right outside our house and come down the hill, they would have already been here. (18:34) That's what I was thinking.
Scott Benner (18:36) That's what you were thinking if I was with them, they would have gotten here quicker.
Jamie (18:39) Yeah. (18:40) Because they and then they have to drive around the block to get in because we're, like, in a weird cubby cul de sac type thing.
Scott Benner (18:45) Yeah.
Jamie (18:46) And so it was it felt like and it was probably just a couple more minutes before they got into the door, but I was it felt like it took forever.
Scott Benner (18:56) Weird left turn, Jamie. (18:57) Does anybody ever told you have control issues?
Jamie (19:01) Me? (19:01) Control issues? (19:02) No. (19:03) Come on. (19:04) Yes.
Jamie (19:05) I I'm a control freak.
Scott Benner (19:06) You're a control freak because I have to tell you that in the middle of that situation, to have a critique of how someone else is doing their job is absolutely insane.
Jamie (19:15) I just wanted them to get there because I thought, you know, I felt like I was dying. (19:20) Like, I literally was I was like, my god. (19:23) I'm dying. (19:23) I'm never gonna survive this. (19:24) There's Like
Scott Benner (19:25) Part of me that thinks that if my wife passes before me as we're putting her body in the ground, she'll sit up and go, you're doing it wrong.
Jamie (19:34) I would probably do the same thing. (19:36) Yeah.
Scott Benner (19:36) My gosh. (19:37) Okay. (19:37) So alright. (19:38) Well, you got through it, obviously. (19:39) Now, let let's go back a second.
Scott Benner (19:41) You have a lotta, and you've had it for eight years, did you say? (19:47) You've probably heard me talk about US Med and how simple it is to reorder with US Med using their email system. (19:53) But did you know that if you don't see the email and you're set up for this, you have to set it up. (19:58) They don't just randomly call you. (19:59) But I'm set up to be called if I don't respond to the email because I don't trust myself, a 100%.
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Jamie (21:09) Yeah. (21:09) I think so. (21:11) Because there was no oh, and my Dexcom just decided it's not gonna give me readings.
Scott Benner (21:16) Awesome. (21:16) Fun. (21:16) Perfect timing.
Jamie (21:17) So it's hard for me to say definitively when I was diagnosed because there wasn't like, I wasn't in DKA. (21:24) I wasn't you know? (21:26) Mhmm. (21:27) It was I knew something was wrong. (21:30) My general practitioner at the time kept telling me the reason my numbers were going up was because I was noncompliant, and I wasn't exercising, and I was eating too many carbs.
Scott Benner (21:38) Okay.
Jamie (21:39) And so by the time I made it to the endo and had the antibody testing done, he threatened to put me in the hospital for an eating disorder because I refused to eat carbs.
Scott Benner (21:49) Really?
Jamie (21:49) Well What? (21:50) How? (21:51) I kept told that I was eating too many carbs and I was already basically keto, so I had dropped it down and all I was eating was protein.
Scott Benner (21:58) When he said that you were noncompliant on exercise and eating, was that actually true?
Jamie (22:03) No. (22:04) That was my general practitioner and no, it was not. (22:06) I was exercising several hours a day Wow. (22:09) And I was eating like, I was completely clean eating because I was convinced I was type two and I'm like, I'm I'm gonna fix this. (22:15) I'm gonna lose weight.
Jamie (22:16) I'm gonna be healthy. (22:17) Yeah. (22:17) This isn't gonna be an issue. (22:19) He just kept telling me I was noncompliant, but I am. (22:23) Like and I had lost I lost, like, almost a 100 pounds.
Scott Benner (22:25) Woah.
Jamie (22:26) Like, I was nothing. (22:27) I was a little stick. (22:28) I look at those pictures of me back then, and I look you can see it on me. (22:33) I look sick.
Scott Benner (22:34) Oh, let's put context to it. (22:36) How tall are you?
Jamie (22:37) I'm five foot six.
Scott Benner (22:38) Five six. (22:39) And what did you weigh when you started to lose weight?
Jamie (22:42) I was over two hundred. (22:44) I was probably closer to two twenty. (22:46) I've I've always been chunky.
Scott Benner (22:48) Chonky?
Jamie (22:50) Yeah. (22:50) Chonky. (22:51) Okay. (22:51) Chonky. (22:52) Chonky.
Scott Benner (22:52) I don't know. (22:53) Chonky was funny. (22:54) Go with that.
Jamie (22:55) Yeah. (22:55) Two twenty. (22:57) Two twenty. (22:57) I was probably closer to two fifty because I was one fifty when I went to the endo.
Scott Benner (23:01) Wow. (23:02) And you lost a 100 pounds. (23:04) Yeah. (23:04) Just through diet and exercise. (23:05) Or was it exercise and not really eating much?
Jamie (23:09) Exercise and not eating much. (23:10) And then on top of that, my body wasn't making much insulin. (23:14) So my body was just
Scott Benner (23:16) Yeah.
Jamie (23:16) Not metabolizing any of the food I was eating.
Scott Benner (23:19) What was your a one c during that time? (23:21) Do you know? (23:21) Do you remember?
Jamie (23:22) I think I managed to get it down to eight or nine.
Scott Benner (23:25) Okay. (23:26) And you have down from where?
Jamie (23:30) When I first went in, it was 13.
Scott Benner (23:34) Okay. (23:34) 13 down to eight or nine with the exercise, the not eating. (23:37) But then the next doctor, it's not your GP, it's a different doctor who says you have an eating disorder. (23:42) Is that right?
Jamie (23:43) Yeah. (23:43) He was like, you need to eat carbs. (23:45) You at least need to be eating vegetables and fruit every day.
Scott Benner (23:48) And you said if I do that, my a one c is gonna be 13 again.
Jamie (23:50) And I said if I do that, my blood sugar's out of control.
Scott Benner (23:53) Okay. (23:54) And they called that an eating disorder?
Jamie (23:57) Yeah. (23:57) Because I was, like, I was mad at him. (23:59) He was, like, you need to eat. (24:00) You cannot this is not a healthy diet to just eat meat. (24:03) He goes, I am okay with you eating keto.
Jamie (24:06) He said, but you also need to eat the fruits and the vegetables, and you need to have those carbs. (24:10) Those are healthy carbs. (24:11) And I was, but I can't because then my blood sugar goes way out of control.
Scott Benner (24:15) What was the answer to that? (24:17) Do you recall?
Jamie (24:18) Basically, they put me on insulin almost right away Insulin. (24:21) At the endo. (24:22) Okay. (24:22) Yeah. (24:22) They put me on the insulin.
Jamie (24:24) I started with long acting, and I was still checking my blood sugar multiple times a day. (24:30) And he when I went back to him and I was like, okay. (24:33) I'm still experiencing a lot of, like, high blood sugars. (24:36) I'm really struggling. (24:38) And he was like, well, we can put you back on we can put you on short of the slow or fast acting, and that can help with after meals.
Jamie (24:46) He's like, but you're gonna really have to be careful because you're still he thought I still had some insulin response in my body. (24:54) Mhmm. (24:54) And so I did have to be really careful and watch it and make sure I wasn't going low. (24:58) And but yeah. (25:00) So they started me on insulin almost right away when I went to the endocrinologist.
Scott Benner (25:04) Did you get a c peptide and, an antibody test at some point?
Jamie (25:08) Yep. (25:09) When I was at the endo, that was the they did that the first day I was there.
Scott Benner (25:12) Okay. (25:12) And you definitely have type one?
Jamie (25:14) Yep. (25:15) Okay. (25:15) I am positive for all three antibodies.
Scott Benner (25:17) Positive for three antibodies. (25:19) Back then, that's eight years ago now. (25:21) And so have your insulin needs slowly increased? (25:24) Did they increase slowly then all at once and they're done? (25:27) Are they still changing?
Scott Benner (25:28) Where are you at in that pattern?
Jamie (25:30) They increased relatively slowly. (25:33) Mhmm. (25:34) But I will say that when I had so I've also got anaphylactic allergies, and I had an exposure that sent me to the emergency room.
Scott Benner (25:41) I'm sorry. (25:42) Give me some description about that anaphylactic allergies.
Jamie (25:45) So I'm super allergic to fish and shellfish, and somebody walked up to me with lobster, steaming lobster, which aerosolizes the protein, and I inhaled. (25:57) Wow. (25:58) And I ended up going to the emergency room. (26:00) And after that, my insulin needs shot up, and it stayed where they were at.
Scott Benner (26:06) Mhmm. (26:07) Probably doesn't matter to anybody but me. (26:08) But why was somebody wandering around with a lobster, and didn't they know that you had a a shellfish allergy?
Jamie (26:14) They did.
Scott Benner (26:16) Was this an attack? (26:17) Were you attacked with a lobster?
Jamie (26:19) No. (26:20) But wouldn't that be funny? (26:21) Could you imagine being attacked with a lobster and then dying because it like, that would be an interesting way to go. (26:27) That's morbid.
Scott Benner (26:27) I'm saying right now, I could murder you with a lobster and get away with it. (26:32) Not now that I know, but if I pretended I didn't know I could.
Jamie (26:35) Yeah. (26:36) Yeah. (26:36) You could.
Scott Benner (26:37) How quickly could it hurt you?
Jamie (26:39) I usually know pretty quickly when I've been exposed.
Scott Benner (26:42) Mhmm.
Jamie (26:42) It starts with my eyes being itchy, and then my nose and my mouth and my throat get itchy. (26:48) And then in this particular instance, it would have been my first time using the EpiPen, and so I really I was afraid to use the EpiPen.
Scott Benner (26:56) Mhmm.
Jamie (26:57) And my chest got like, it was itchy inside. (27:00) Like, my lungs itched. (27:01) I don't know how to describe that to somebody who has never experienced it other than it itched in my lungs and, like, under my sternum. (27:09) And it was really hard to breathe. (27:11) I kept having to, like, cough.
Scott Benner (27:13) What happened? (27:14) How did you how did you traverse it?
Jamie (27:15) I actually I didn't even call 911. (27:18) My mom came and picked me up from work.
Scott Benner (27:20) Were you working at the at the Red Lobster?
Jamie (27:22) No. (27:23) No. (27:24) I was not.
Scott Benner (27:25) Because you shouldn't have a job there. (27:26) That's what I was gonna tell you.
Jamie (27:27) Oh, right. (27:28) I should never work there. (27:29) I don't even go into Red Lobster. (27:30) They're tear it terrifies me. (27:32) I'd never survive.
Scott Benner (27:33) Red Lobster is terrifying. (27:35) I hear what you're saying.
Jamie (27:37) And not just because I'm allergic to fish and shellfish. (27:40) It might be
Scott Benner (27:40) for other reasons. (27:41) Can you tell me where you are?
Jamie (27:43) I'm in Minnesota.
Scott Benner (27:44) No. (27:45) No. (27:45) When when the lobster attack happened.
Jamie (27:47) Oh, I was at work.
Scott Benner (27:48) Yeah. (27:49) But what kind of like, I don't need to know the name of the place, but, like, what kind of work? (27:52) Like, at your office job?
Jamie (27:53) Retail loss prevention?
Scott Benner (27:54) Retail loss prevention? (27:57) Mhmm. (27:57) Who's eating that well in a retail loss prevention situation having a lobster? (28:01) Well, that to me is the whole
Jamie (28:03) higher end it's a higher end retailer. (28:05) Yeah.
Scott Benner (28:06) That's the whole story to me. (28:07) I could do a whole hour on where that lobster came from, how we ended up in this situation. (28:11) Who thought having lobster at lunch today at that place was a good idea?
Jamie (28:15) People did it all the time. (28:16) I would walk into the break room and somebody had microwaved fish, and I would be in like, an anaphylactic, like, that I didn't realize because the allergies were still new
Scott Benner (28:26) Uh-huh.
Jamie (28:27) To me as well. (28:28) And so I'd walk in, and my eyes would swell shut, and I'd be, like, coughing. (28:32) I had no idea I was in anaphylactic shock.
Scott Benner (28:35) I'm not laughing at you, by the way. (28:36) I'm just I'm laughing at the idea of people microwaving their fish at work. (28:40) Again, on my list of things I gotta make for your people, you can't do that.
Jamie (28:43) Who does that?
Scott Benner (28:44) Yeah. (28:45) You should've seen the guy. (28:46) If you're listening, sir, shame on you. (28:48) The guy on my flight I was on a flight to Orlando to go to Touch by Type one a couple weekends ago. (28:54) And, like, three rows ahead of me across the aisle on the aisle is a guy just barefoot on the airplane.
Scott Benner (29:02) Just Ew. (29:03) Vile. (29:04) And I've heard from people who do it, and they're like, it's not a big deal. (29:07) I'm like, that's fair. (29:08) You can have your thoughts on that.
Scott Benner (29:10) The rug is not the color that God intended it to be, and that's from dirt. (29:14) Okay? (29:14) There he is with the the thing, then he gotta go to the bathroom, goes to the bathroom without his shoes on. (29:20) That freaked me out. (29:21) Comes back, starts digging in the overhead.
Scott Benner (29:24) By the way, while the while the while the, the stewardess is on the microphone and and she's this is what she's saying. (29:31) I wanna remind everybody that the captain has not turned off the fasten seat belt sign. (29:35) We we're still in our ascent. (29:37) It's not timed. (29:38) You can't get out of your she was, like, confused.
Scott Benner (29:40) Like, she's like, you can't get out of your seats right now. (29:42) He had gotten up, peed without his shoes on, was digging in the overhead compartment, all while we were, like, still climbing. (29:50) And it was not a for any of like, well, might have really had to be trust me. (29:53) This was just a guy on his own journey. (29:56) Okay?
Scott Benner (29:56) And so then he's then he he fishes out some big, like, plastic bag, like, you'd get for takeout where I can see inside of it one of those Styrofoam shell like containers. (30:09) And he pulls it down. (30:10) There's steam still coming out of it. (30:12) It smells the high heaven terrible. (30:13) I don't know what it was.
Scott Benner (30:14) God. (30:15) And then he sits down on his feet. (30:18) Like, do you know how you can sit on your feet, like, underneath of So then he sat on his feet and settled in and cracked that thing open and started eating with a plastic fork. (30:26) And I was just like, am I gonna have to make a book so that people know not to do it? (30:31) Like, what are we gonna do exactly?
Scott Benner (30:32) And then I hear you're eating in your bedroom, but on the I I think I need to make a book. (30:37) The point is he scarfed that down. (30:40) Yikes. (30:40) And the whole time, on his right, in the middle section, a woman. (30:45) And I think, oh god.
Scott Benner (30:46) Like, her you know, this guy's poor wife. (30:47) Like, I guess she's used to it. (30:49) You know? (30:49) And then it's, an hour later when I realized that is not his wife. (30:52) She he does not know that woman.
Scott Benner (30:54) And she's horrified the entire flight. (30:57) His wife is actually across the aisle from him, and I thought, well, there's a lady who's flown with him before and thought, no. (31:02) No. (31:02) I'll sit on the other side of
Jamie (31:03) the aisle. (31:04) Sit on the other side of the aisle from him.
Scott Benner (31:06) Yeah. (31:06) You know, he looks like the kids, and he makes a decent living. (31:09) So I'm not getting rid of him, but I'm not sitting next to him on a plane. (31:13) But horrifying. (31:13) Anyway, please don't open hot food on an airplane and start eating it.
Jamie (31:18) Especially if it's fish or shellfish, because what if somebody's deathly allergic?
Scott Benner (31:22) Well, yeah. (31:22) I mean, because yeah. (31:23) It could've killed you for sure. (31:25) And, if it was the wrong thing I'm making my points here. (31:28) I'm making a lot of sense today.
Scott Benner (31:29) I want everybody to listen to me. (31:31) Okay. (31:31) Now, do you think by the way, ten minutes ago, I asked you about your lata. (31:35) I asked so that I could ask this question.
Jamie (31:38) Okay.
Scott Benner (31:38) Do you think on the day you got low, there was any help coming from your pancreas, or do you think you're long past that now?
Jamie (31:44) I think if there was help coming from my pancreas, it would have been, like, a random weird coincidence.
Scott Benner (31:51) Okay.
Jamie (31:51) And I don't really believe in coincidences.
Scott Benner (31:54) Just to get some of that. (31:55) Right. (31:56) Listen. (31:56) For those of you who don't make a podcast, you have to be impressed. (31:59) I'm telling you to be impressed, that I took that one question in my head and turned it into ten solid minutes of content.
Scott Benner (32:05) You're welcome.
Jamie (32:08) That is pretty impressive. (32:09) Yeah.
Scott Benner (32:09) Thank you. (32:10) It's my only skill, Jimmy. (32:11) Now when your husband gets home skills. (32:15) You're you're being very nice. (32:16) Actually, you know, somebody said to me the other day, you have to stop making fun of yourself on the podcast.
Scott Benner (32:19) It makes me upset.
Jamie (32:21) Aw.
Scott Benner (32:22) Yeah. (32:22) So for you it's just it's it's it's a self effacing humor. (32:26) Don't worry. (32:26) I'm good. (32:27) I I'm I'm okay.
Scott Benner (32:29) I think I must have said to somebody. (32:30) I'm like, I'm not that smart. (32:31) And people are like, you are smart. (32:33) I'm like, oh my gosh. (32:33) What are you?
Scott Benner (32:34) My my preschool teacher? (32:35) Thank you. (32:35) It's lovely. (32:36) But I'm okay. (32:37) So your husband gets home, you catch him up, and then, I mean, is there anything else from there?
Scott Benner (32:43) Do you talk about it? (32:44) Are you shook? (32:45) Like, what's the rest of the night look like?
Jamie (32:47) He was upset. (32:48) He tried to hide it, I think, because, like, the next several days, he definitely paid way more attention to my Dexcom.
Scott Benner (32:55) Mhmm.
Jamie (32:56) I ended up changing my alarm settings a little bit so that I get an alert if I'm double arrowed down before I'm at 67.
Scott Benner (33:03) You got it freaked out too.
Jamie (33:05) Yeah. (33:06) Yeah. (33:06) Because I I feel like there should have been some warning.
Scott Benner (33:11) Does double arrows not beep no matter where it is?
Jamie (33:15) If you have that alarm off, it will not tell you. (33:17) And I had shut it off because I'm on Omnipod five.
Scott Benner (33:20) Jamie. (33:21) Jamie. (33:21) Jamie. (33:22) Jamie. (33:22) Jamie.
Scott Benner (33:22) Jamie. (33:23) Jamie. (33:24) What? (33:24) Listen. (33:25) Let's put this whole interview aside, and you just start telling me everything you're doing, and I'll tell you if it's right or not.
Scott Benner (33:30) Okay? (33:30) How's that sound? (33:31) Let's do Alright. (33:33) Everyone, leave your alarms on. (33:34) I don't care if they bother you.
Scott Benner (33:36) That's what they're there for. (33:38) Oh, so you had your alarms off.
Jamie (33:40) Yeah. (33:41) I had so the low alarm was set for seventy five, but I didn't have, like, the drop alerts on.
Scott Benner (33:47) Right.
Jamie (33:47) So I have the drop alerts on now. (33:49) And then the other thing that we did, there was a lady on Facebook who suggested taping the vaccinee in the bathrooms, like, to the mirror.
Scott Benner (33:59) Okay. (34:00) I mean, that's not a not a style decision, but go ahead.
Jamie (34:04) No. (34:04) But what a smart idea because now it's right in my face every day. (34:10) We have a vaccine in the bathroom upstairs, which is our main bathroom. (34:13) And then I also have one taped to the basement garage door Okay. (34:17) So that there's one downstairs too.
Jamie (34:19) So we have that going. (34:21) So it's, like, right in everybody's space. (34:23) Everybody knows what it is, and it's not likely I'm gonna forget it's there because I see it every day.
Scott Benner (34:29) Right. (34:30) Did you have a conversation with your husband like, hey. (34:33) I'm sure you knew about this before, but let's do a refresher on this backseemi and everything else?
Jamie (34:38) Yeah. (34:39) Yeah. (34:39) Yep.
Scott Benner (34:40) How long do you think he was scared for? (34:42) And did you hate it when he was paying more attention in the days that followed, or was it comforting?
Jamie (34:47) I didn't hate it. (34:49) It just was different. (34:51) It's not a normal he doesn't normally pay any attention to my duckscom. (34:56) I usually handle everything on my own. (34:58) Mhmm.
Jamie (34:59) My mom is the one who follows and will call me, like, hey. (35:04) I'm getting low alerts. (35:05) Are you okay? (35:06) Yeah. (35:07) And if I don't answer, the sheriff's department will show up at the door.
Scott Benner (35:10) And if she would have called during your incident, that wouldn't have helped you, really. (35:14) Not that time. (35:15) Yeah.
Jamie (35:16) No.
Scott Benner (35:17) How do you do you feel any certain way about him not having that much interest in your die is it interest he doesn't have, or it's just the way you guys have had it set up? (35:25) I guess my first question is how long have you been together?
Jamie (35:27) We just celebrated our fourth anniversary, but we've known each other for probably ten or eleven years.
Scott Benner (35:35) So you got the beats when you were already knowing him at least?
Jamie (35:39) Yeah.
Scott Benner (35:40) Were you sexy time when you got it or were you just friends? (35:43) Wait.
Jamie (35:44) Can you rephrase the question? (35:45) What?
Scott Benner (35:46) Were you guys dating when you got diabetes or are you just friends at that point?
Jamie (35:50) We had dated for a while, and then we broke up for a while, and then we got back together.
Scott Benner (35:55) Did he do something wrong?
Jamie (35:57) He ghosted me. (35:58) He's gonna be so embarrassed. (35:59) I told everybody this.
Scott Benner (36:00) Did he really?
Jamie (36:01) He ghosted me. (36:02) Yeah. (36:02) He he had some issues going on in in his personal life, and he was embarrassed. (36:07) And so he basically just ended things.
Scott Benner (36:11) Without And
Jamie (36:12) I was
Scott Benner (36:13) without letting you know?
Jamie (36:14) Yeah. (36:15) Pretty much.
Scott Benner (36:15) After how me. (36:16) Jamie, after how long?
Jamie (36:18) Oh gosh. (36:19) We had been together for a year at that point.
Scott Benner (36:21) Get the fuck out of here. (36:22) Really?
Jamie (36:23) Yeah. (36:24) Wow. (36:24) Yeah. (36:25) But, you know, I knew he was the one. (36:28) Like, I knew.
Jamie (36:30) And so I was pretty upset when he left, but I was like, okay. (36:33) Well, life goes on. (36:34) But then he texted me through Facebook and was like sent me a no. (36:38) He sent me a friend request on Facebook, and I texted him back on Messenger. (36:42) And I was like, I think you got hacked because you just friend requested me.
Jamie (36:44) And he was like, no. (36:46) No. (36:46) That was me. (36:47) And I was like, okay. (36:48) Well, here's the deal.
Jamie (36:49) You're either gonna be a part of my life or you're not gonna be a part of my life.
Scott Benner (36:54) What are wrong with boys? (36:55) How did he mess that up so badly?
Jamie (36:58) I don't know.
Scott Benner (36:59) Do have you did you make him figure it out before you let him come be be back in together with you? (37:04) Awesome.
Jamie (37:05) Yep. (37:05) Did
Scott Benner (37:06) you make him explain himself?
Jamie (37:07) Figure everything out.
Scott Benner (37:08) Yeah. (37:08) Sit across from you at, like, a restaurant and explain the whole thing to you?
Jamie (37:12) Yeah. (37:13) Pretty much.
Scott Benner (37:13) What restaurant was it?
Jamie (37:15) It was I think we got Chipotle and hung out and sat. (37:18) Chipotle's one of my favorite places to eat, so yeah. (37:22) And he had to explain to me, like, look. (37:25) I was really embarrassed because I had some money issues going on, and it just was like, I don't care. (37:32) We're a if we're gonna be a couple, like, the money issues are a thing we face together because we're together.
Jamie (37:39) And so he has worked really hard at that and he, you know, is
Scott Benner (37:43) That's lovely.
Jamie (37:44) Still a guy. (37:45) He still has some learning, but he is
Scott Benner (37:46) He's still a little dopey? (37:47) Still trying to figure it out?
Jamie (37:49) Yeah. (37:50) Yeah. (37:50) That's okay.
Scott Benner (37:50) I'm sure he'll have it all straight by the time he's 60, maybe.
Jamie (37:53) Yeah. (37:54) Yeah. (37:54) He's been you know, he's, like, my best friend. (37:57) He's my soulmate. (37:58) He's the the thing that keeps me sane in my life, and he is my rock.
Jamie (38:03) So Saner.
Scott Benner (38:05) Let's say saner, Jamie. (38:07) Let's not go let's not go planning our flag in the mountain of sane. (38:12) Okay? (38:12) We've only been talking for thirty six minutes. (38:14) I don't know if you're sane or not yet.
Scott Benner (38:15) Oh.
Jamie (38:16) I'm not. (38:16) No. (38:17) I'm probably not. (38:18) He keeps me as close to sane as possible.
Scott Benner (38:20) That's it. (38:20) Let's be more accurate. (38:22) Wait. (38:22) But wait. (38:22) Wait.
Scott Benner (38:23) Wait. (38:23) Wait. (38:23) Wait. (38:23) I have more can I ask more questions? (38:25) I have more questions.
Jamie (38:26) Yes.
Scott Benner (38:27) You're telling me he just is like, you're, like, hanging out one day, doing something, and then the next day, he's not there. (38:36) And then the next day, he's not there. (38:37) And then it goes on for multiple days, you think to yourself, hey. (38:40) It's weird. (38:40) I haven't talked to that guy in a while that I've been dating for a year.
Scott Benner (38:43) I wonder what happened to him. (38:44) And then you text him and go, hey. (38:46) Are you okay? (38:47) And he doesn't respond.
Jamie (38:48) Pretty much. (38:49) I knew right right away that he had blocked me because he stopped talking. (38:53) Like, stopped responding. (38:54) Yeah. (38:55) And on Facebook, he was gone on Facebook and social media, and he had removed the, like, my family members and my friends from his Facebook.
Jamie (39:03) So I knew something had happened.
Scott Benner (39:05) Oh my
Jamie (39:05) god. (39:05) I just didn't know a 100% what it was. (39:08) I suspected what it was. (39:10) Jimmy. (39:10) But yeah.
Scott Benner (39:11) Wow. (39:12) I have to I'm listen. (39:13) No judgment. (39:14) Meanwhile, everything I say is judgment. (39:16) But just assume I don't just assume I don't mean any judgment by this.
Scott Benner (39:19) I don't think my wife would let me see her calves again if I did that to her, let alone, like, redate me. (39:25) I I I don't think she'd let me look at her in shorts. (39:27) I think she'd be like, no. (39:28) I'm sorry. (39:28) This isn't for you anymore.
Scott Benner (39:29) You were so taken with him. (39:31) How long were you not together after the the break?
Jamie (39:35) It was a, like, a year and a half.
Scott Benner (39:38) Wow. (39:38) You're a Yeah. (39:40) Wow. (39:40) Did you date in that time? (39:42) Somebody else?
Jamie (39:43) I did.
Scott Benner (39:44) Yeah. (39:44) Somebody he knew? (39:45) You probably picked somebody you knew on purpose. (39:47) Right?
Jamie (39:48) No. (39:48) No. (39:49) Actually, I didn't. (39:50) No.
Scott Benner (39:50) I might have. (39:50) All of
Jamie (39:51) his friends are married.
Scott Benner (39:52) I just realized I might be a slutty girl if I was a girl. (39:55) I was like
Jamie (39:56) I was Yeah.
Scott Benner (39:58) I'd find his best friend and definitely go out with him. (40:01) But all of his friends are married, like, so you okay. (40:05) So you
Jamie (40:05) went out
Scott Benner (40:06) Now I'm interested. (40:07) You're out and you're dating other people. (40:09) You just didn't find anybody that you jived with as well as you did with the guy who ghosted you? (40:14) Yeah. (40:14) Yeah.
Scott Benner (40:15) Can I be I'm ask a serious question? (40:17) Is that upsetting when you realize that?
Jamie (40:19) A little bit, but I just knew. (40:23) Like, I had never had as much fun with anybody else as I did with him. (40:27) Mhmm. (40:27) And I knew that, like like, we did goofy things, like, go to Claire's, and he would put the goofy little clown crowns on his head, the princess crowns, and goof off. (40:37) And, like, that was so much fun to me.
Jamie (40:39) And he would you know, he just let me be me. (40:42) Okay. (40:43) And he didn't judge me. (40:44) He didn't tell me I needed a change. (40:46) He didn't tell me I needed a you
Scott Benner (40:47) know? (40:48) Right.
Jamie (40:48) So the it just and then he was just gone.
Scott Benner (40:52) Yeah. (40:52) This thing happened that he was so flustered by. (40:56) He didn't want you to see it. (40:58) And Yep. (40:59) That's it.
Scott Benner (40:59) And that is how I explained it to you a year and a half later. (41:02) Do you did he date anybody in that year and a half?
Jamie (41:04) He did not.
Scott Benner (41:06) Yeah. (41:06) Interesting.
Jamie (41:08) Yeah.
Scott Benner (41:08) Is he very loyal now?
Jamie (41:11) He yes. (41:12) Yeah.
Scott Benner (41:12) I bet he tells you so Go ahead.
Jamie (41:14) I'm I'm also very loyal to him. (41:17) Like, he always feels like he can't make it up, I think, that he can't make up for that mistake. (41:22) But at the same time, like, he I don't know how to describe this. (41:25) This man has the biggest heart for the world that I have ever seen in my life. (41:29) Like, it does not matter who you are.
Jamie (41:32) If you had just insulted him and you needed a T shirt, he would take the shirt he's wearing and hand it to you. (41:38) Like, that is how he is, and he loves his family. (41:41) His family comes first, and we like, it just his heart is it's so incredible, and I can't even.
Scott Benner (41:52) I I'm sure he'll be touched to hear you describe him that way. (41:55) I wanna understand, though, how that person that you just described doesn't know that much about your diabetes. (42:00) How does that work? (42:01) You're diagnosed. (42:02) He knows you.
Scott Benner (42:03) You have type one. (42:05) You know, I mean, lot of I mean, you're taking insulin. (42:07) Right? (42:07) So probably tell people you have type one when they ask, I'd imagine.
Jamie (42:11) Oh, yeah. (42:12) And I wear my devices where everybody in the world can see them.
Scott Benner (42:15) Everybody knows about it. (42:16) He knows about it. (42:17) He's a big hearted guy. (42:19) Are you keeping him from knowing about your diabetes? (42:21) Is he staying at arm's length from it?
Scott Benner (42:24) Like, why does that connection not exist in the beginning like that?
Jamie (42:28) I think it's a it's probably me being stubborn.
Scott Benner (42:33) Okay. (42:33) Tell me more.
Jamie (42:35) Because I feel like I'm an adult and I can handle it and I don't need help. (42:39) The only thing that honestly drives me bonkers is that so he doesn't like to read the food labels
Scott Benner (42:45) Okay.
Jamie (42:46) Which is changing now because he also has to start watching what he's eating. (42:51) And so he'll bring me like, he'll make dinner and he'll bring me food. (42:56) I'll be like, so how many servings is this and how many grams of carbs? (42:59) And he's like, why? (42:59) Have no idea.
Scott Benner (43:00) So but you made it, and you got all the packages over there. (43:03) Right?
Jamie (43:04) Right. (43:05) Yeah. (43:05) So I was like, but sir, come on.
Scott Benner (43:07) Is this a math problem? (43:08) Is he bad with math?
Jamie (43:10) No. (43:10) He's very good with math. (43:12) I think it's a he's he's got ADHD. (43:14) Okay. (43:15) And I think it's I think it's an ADHD thing.
Jamie (43:17) He just forgets. (43:18) He gets so excited about cooking and eating and all the flavors that he just doesn't stop to think about the grams of carbs and the serving sizes.
Scott Benner (43:28) I just had a a joke pop into my head, and I thought, I wonder if people with ADHD would be upset if I said that.
Jamie (43:35) I don't know. (43:35) He's pretty laid back about it.
Scott Benner (43:37) Well, I don't mind worrying about him. (43:38) I'm worried about everyone else listening who has ADHD who might be offended. (43:41) But I thought, like, maybe he didn't really ghost you. (43:44) Maybe just forgot forgot about you for
Jamie (43:46) a while. (43:47) Right?
Scott Benner (43:48) Maybe he just got
Jamie (43:49) be the that's gonna be the new joke. (43:52) Yeah. (43:52) You should He just forgot.
Scott Benner (43:53) He should have just said, hey. (43:54) I'm so sorry. (43:55) But, like, I picked up this new thing on Netflix, and then I started putting puzzles together, and I forgot about you. (44:00) Right?
Jamie (44:01) Yeah.
Scott Benner (44:03) Sorry. (44:03) So Yeah.
Jamie (44:04) No. (44:05) It's okay. (44:05) No. (44:05) So, yeah, he he just doesn't think about it, and now he's finally starting to get it.
Scott Benner (44:11) Okay.
Jamie (44:11) Okay. (44:11) If I make, like, a frozen pizza real quick or whatever for dinner that I need to look at how many grams of carbs are in the serving I'm handing her. (44:19) And
Scott Benner (44:20) He's being really thoughtful about it. (44:22) And did the did the low blood sugar did it speed him up a little bit about his interest and concern, or did that only happen for a little while and it went and then it kinda went back to normal after that?
Jamie (44:32) I don't know how often he checks my blood sugar anymore Mhmm. (44:35) Honestly.
Scott Benner (44:36) Okay.
Jamie (44:36) I think I think he still looks I don't know. (44:39) But the other issue is that he drives professionally for a living, and he can't have alarms on his phone while he's driving. (44:45) So his his alarms, his follow alarms are off.
Scott Benner (44:48) Follow alarms are off. (44:49) He's not allowed to have what's he what's he driving? (44:52) The money? (44:54) You gotta
Jamie (44:54) Bosses.
Scott Benner (44:55) He's oh, he's driving people. (44:58) Yeah. (44:58) I see. (44:59) And they don't want they don't want his ship even while he's with them.
Jamie (45:02) Yeah. (45:02) They don't want any distractions while he's driving a bus.
Scott Benner (45:05) He's a limo driver?
Jamie (45:07) No. (45:08) He drives a bus. (45:09) Like like, the city buses.
Scott Benner (45:11) You said buses. (45:12) I thought you said buses.
Jamie (45:13) No. (45:14) Buses. (45:14) Oh. (45:15) It's that Minnesota accent going on.
Scott Benner (45:17) No. (45:18) I honestly thought, like, oh, he's probably got he's got, like, some important guy in a town car, he's running them all over. (45:22) By the way, also, women could be important. (45:23) Do know what I mean? (45:24) And Yeah.
Scott Benner (45:25) So he's driving a city bus. (45:28) So that's part of well, that makes sense. (45:29) Yeah. (45:30) I I just wanna say right now, don't want anybody driving a bus looking at their phone.
Jamie (45:33) Right. (45:34) Don't look at your phone.
Scott Benner (45:35) I watched a guy two days ago drive first of all, he's in the right lane, a two lane situation. (45:42) The speed limit's 55. (45:44) He's going 35. (45:45) Does not know it. (45:46) As I come up next to him thinking, like, what is he trying to get us all killed?
Scott Benner (45:49) I go around and I look over and he has just got, like, a tablet in his hand. (45:54) It's not even a phone. (45:54) It's a tablet, and he's reading. (45:56) And I'm like, what what why why are you so important? (46:01) You know what I mean?
Scott Benner (46:01) Like Who
Jamie (46:02) does that?
Scott Benner (46:02) Yeah. (46:02) Well, what why is this person so important that they this the only time they have to read? (46:07) You you know, like, I I I don't know. (46:08) Like, it I looked at him. (46:10) I didn't I didn't see a I didn't see a world leader in the car, but, I mean, maybe maybe he was making big decisions about something.
Scott Benner (46:16) I I have no idea. (46:17) Anyway, that freaked me out, and I don't want bus drivers doing that. (46:20) So he can't do that. (46:22) Could he have an Apple Watch that had, like, a follow on it? (46:25) Do they do that?
Scott Benner (46:26) Does Apple Watch have follow?
Jamie (46:27) He hates watches. (46:28) He never wears them.
Scott Benner (46:29) I see. (46:30) I see.
Jamie (46:31) So I mean and I'm honestly, I'm okay with it. (46:35) Like, we don't need two sets of alarms going off when we're together either. (46:40) Like, it just No. (46:41) It's enough if my phone goes off, and I keep a watch with my numbers on it. (46:46) And sometimes he'll look at my watch to see what I'm at, and it's alright.
Scott Benner (46:50) Yeah. (46:51) Do you have any residual fear left over from the low? (46:54) Does it stick in your head now a couple of months later, or have you pretty much gone back to normal?
Jamie (46:59) I've pretty much gone back to normal. (47:03) I feel like I I didn't have a whole lot of fear even in the beginning. (47:08) I guess I let myself run a little bit higher Mhmm. (47:12) Than I would have normally, but I also am just like I've been doing you know, I started your podcast way back when I first got diagnosed. (47:20) So my theory has always been to be bold with insulin, and I knew that a low like that could happen.
Jamie (47:26) Mhmm. (47:27) And I also know that a low like that is not the end of the world even though in the moment, it felt like it was gonna be Yeah. (47:34) The end of it. (47:35) But I know that lows are gonna happen, and there's reasons I keep low snacks. (47:40) There's reasons I wear Dexcom.
Jamie (47:42) There's reasons I have Baqsimi with me everywhere I go. (47:46) Like, that's the reason. (47:48) And even with a Dexcom, sometimes it's not perfect. (47:51) It's technology, and sometimes technology doesn't work right.
Scott Benner (47:55) Yeah.
Jamie (47:55) And I think in this instant, Dexcom said that I bottomed out at 55. (48:00) Now I have been 55.
Scott Benner (48:02) Didn't feel like that.
Jamie (48:03) This was not 55. (48:04) This was more like probably 30
Scott Benner (48:07) Okay.
Jamie (48:08) Ish or yeah.
Scott Benner (48:09) Did the squad not do a finger stick?
Jamie (48:12) They did. (48:12) And by the time they got here, I was already going back up.
Scott Benner (48:15) Grape soda was helping.
Jamie (48:17) Yeah. (48:17) The grape soda had been, like, in and it was going. (48:21) So
Scott Benner (48:21) What's a good brand of grape soda?
Jamie (48:23) I don't know. (48:24) I buy we buy the Cub. (48:26) I would have to get up and look.
Scott Benner (48:27) Wait. (48:27) You you buy the what?
Jamie (48:29) We buy it from Cub. (48:31) Cub Foods?
Scott Benner (48:31) I don't know what that is. (48:32) I don't live in that waste wasteland you live in in Minnesota, almost Canada, wherever the hell you are.
Jamie (48:39) I know. (48:39) Right?
Scott Benner (48:39) Yeah. (48:39) Yeah. (48:40) I know.
Jamie (48:40) It's super chill.
Scott Benner (48:41) It's soup wait. (48:42) That's what the soda's called?
Jamie (48:44) Yeah. (48:44) Super chill. (48:45) Okay. (48:45) It's a generic. (48:46) It doesn't have caffeine in it.
Jamie (48:48) So if I use it at night, it's not keeping me awake all night.
Scott Benner (48:51) Very nice. (48:51) Hold on. (48:52) I'm looking it up. (48:53) Also, I just put a piece of candy in my mouth. (48:55) I don't know why.
Scott Benner (48:55) I've never done that before. (48:56) It was stupid. (48:57) Now I gotta get rid
Jamie (48:58) of That's okay.
Scott Benner (48:59) Super chill. (49:00) Yeah.
Jamie (49:01) Grape soda. (49:02) They have orange soda stuff too. (49:05) They have root beer.
Scott Benner (49:08) Look at that. (49:09) I've never seen that in my life. (49:12) Isn't that interesting? (49:12) Yeah. (49:13) They make club soda too, if you ever need club soda.
Jamie (49:15) I just wanted something that had several grams of sugar and carbs and didn't have caffeine, and the grape soda is where we ended up.
Scott Benner (49:24) Can I tell you something? (49:26) Super Chill has something here called Diet Mountain Chill. (49:30) It's in a green bottle. (49:32) And between you and me, it's a direct Mountain Dew rip off. (49:35) And I say to them, well done.
Scott Benner (49:36) Because I looked at it and I knew exactly what it was supposed to be.
Jamie (49:40) Yeah. (49:40) It doesn't quite taste like unless they've changed the formula since the last time I had it, it doesn't quite taste like Mountain Dew.
Scott Benner (49:47) Have you tried it?
Jamie (49:47) And I don't, yes, I don't like diet. (49:50) I prefer the zeros.
Scott Benner (49:52) Okay. (49:52) Some good Super Chill information.
Jamie (49:56) Yeah. (49:56) And I don't think Super Chill has zeros. (49:59) Like so, like, I get Doctor Pepper zero
Scott Benner (50:02) Okay.
Jamie (50:02) Diet the Mountain Dew zero. (50:04) Those are my two go tos if I need caffeine. (50:08) But well, personally, I prefer coffee. (50:10) Kind of a crazy coffee person. (50:12) But
Scott Benner (50:13) yeah. (50:13) Coffee person? (50:14) I like how you said coffee. (50:15) Thank you for saying coffee.
Jamie (50:17) I love coffee. (50:18) What?
Scott Benner (50:19) Do you have Raynaud's?
Jamie (50:21) I do have Raynaud's.
Scott Benner (50:23) I just looked at the, at the notes and I was like, oh, I didn't see that before.
Jamie (50:27) I have Raynaud's. (50:29) I have anaphylactic allergies, and I also have psoriasis.
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