#1710 Out of Shell - Part 1
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Janelle discusses marrying young, military life, and her son’s Type 1 diagnosis. She shares how she manages anxiety, homeschooling, and why she switched from Omnipod to Tandem Mobi.
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Scott Benner (0:00) As the holidays approach, I wanna say welcome and thank all of my good friends for coming back to the Juice Box podcast over and over again.
Janelle (0:18) Hi. (0:19) I'm Janelle. (0:20) That's it. (0:21) I I don't got a lot about me. (0:23) Really, I really don't.
Janelle (0:24) That's the funny that's the funny thing. (0:25) This is out of my comfort zone.
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Janelle (2:13) Hi. (2:13) I'm Janelle.
Scott Benner (2:14) That was it, Janelle? (2:15) That's what you're giving?
Janelle (2:16) That's it. (2:17) I I don't got a lot about me.
Scott Benner (2:20) Don't start off like that. (2:21) People would be like, oh, I don't wanna listen to this one. (2:23) No. (2:23) Jenelle doesn't even know how to talk about herself.
Janelle (2:24) I'd I really I really don't. (2:26) That's the funny that's the funny thing. (2:27) This is out of my comfort zone.
Scott Benner (2:28) I'm well, we'll we'll get you comfortable. (2:30) But I'm laughing because just as we were starting, I got a text from Rob who's, I'm sure, editing the show right now all all the way across the country. (2:38) And I must have said something that I couldn't think of the name of, and he's just randomly texting it to me now. (2:45) So try to imagine that a number of weeks ago, I was apparently having a conversation where I was trying to think of an anime cartoon that I was watching as a kid called Starblazers, but I couldn't think of it. (2:57) And he just text me randomly, Starblazers.
Scott Benner (2:59) No. (2:59) Wait. (2:59) He's typing again.
Janelle (3:01) He's like, hey. (3:02) Wait.
Scott Benner (3:02) How meta is this gonna be for him weeks from now when he edits this? (3:06) And he's like, oh, I remember that happening. (3:08) Alright. (3:08) Let's see what he's texting. (3:10) Can you imagine if it's something horrible?
Janelle (3:12) I mean, I wouldn't doubt
Scott Benner (3:14) it. (3:14) Would I he's a good guy, but would I you were trying to figure out this cartoon and then you did laugh out loud. (3:19) Yes. (3:19) Starblazers ruled. (3:21) Okay, Rob.
Scott Benner (3:21) I agree with you, man. (3:22) That cartoon was awesome. (3:23) Now I'm gonna close my text messages. (3:25) And alright. (3:28) So, Janelle, that's the entire podcast.
Scott Benner (3:30) This is Janelle, everybody. (3:32) Goodbye.
Janelle (3:32) Nice to meet you guys.
Scott Benner (3:33) How old are you?
Janelle (3:34) I'm 28.
Scott Benner (3:35) You have type one? (3:37) You got a kid with type one? (3:37) Or what's going on?
Janelle (3:38) I have a six year old son with type one diabetes.
Scott Benner (3:41) Oh, you're 28, and have a six year old.
Janelle (3:44) Yes.
Scott Benner (3:44) You're rocking through life the way we did it.
Janelle (3:47) Yeah.
Scott Benner (3:47) Were you, married when you had, said six year old?
Janelle (3:50) Yes. (3:51) I was.
Scott Benner (3:51) How old were you when you got married?
Janelle (3:52) I got married the day before I turned 20.
Scott Benner (3:55) Woah. (3:56) Yeah. (3:57) I love that you said before we started recording that you're not that interesting. (4:01) We're gonna find out much differently now. (4:04) Watch how I do this.
Scott Benner (4:05) Everyone gets to look into my mind's eye. (4:07) Do you live in the Midwest? (4:09) No. (4:10) Even more interesting. (4:13) Alright, Janelle.
Scott Benner (4:13) Ready?
Janelle (4:15) Yeah.
Scott Benner (4:15) Oh, I don't know where to start. (4:17) This is super exciting. (4:18) Are you married are you married still? (4:20) Yeah. (4:20) Interesting.
Scott Benner (4:21) And do you have any other children?
Janelle (4:23) Yes. (4:23) I also have a four year old daughter.
Scott Benner (4:25) Four year old daughter. (4:26) Did you marry your high school sweetheart?
Janelle (4:28) Yes.
Scott Benner (4:29) You did. (4:29) What how old were you when you started dating this boy?
Janelle (4:32) I was 17.
Scott Benner (4:35) Was he your
Janelle (4:35) And he was 18.
Scott Benner (4:36) Was he your first real boyfriend? (4:38) Or Yeah. (4:39) Was he your first boyfriend?
Janelle (4:40) I guess it kinda goes either way. (4:42) I would say probably yes.
Scott Benner (4:44) Okay. (4:44) What about him?
Janelle (4:46) No.
Scott Benner (4:47) Oh, what a little whore he was. (4:49) Okay. (4:49) Now so
Janelle (4:51) I make that joke all the time.
Scott Benner (4:52) Are you particularly religious? (4:56) No. (4:57) No? (4:57) No. (4:58) Were you pregnant when you got married?
Scott Benner (5:00) No. (5:01) Get the fuck out of here. (5:02) Really? (5:03) Yeah. (5:03) Interesting.
Scott Benner (5:04) Are you from a broken home?
Janelle (5:06) No. (5:06) My parents are still married.
Scott Benner (5:07) Oh, you're breaking all the paradigms. (5:09) I love this.
Janelle (5:11) I don't know if it helps. (5:12) He joined the military straight out of high school.
Scott Benner (5:14) Military. (5:15) I was getting to it, Janelle. (5:16) Give me a second.
Janelle (5:17) Sorry to cut you off there.
Speaker 3 (5:18) I'd have figured it out. (5:20) I hold on a second.
Scott Benner (5:22) Did anybody get hit as children? (5:24) You or him? (5:25) No. (5:25) No. (5:26) You're a pretty you you consider yourself having a pretty nice upbringing.
Scott Benner (5:30) Yeah. (5:30) You just met a boy, fell in love, got married right before you're 20 years old.
Janelle (5:34) Yeah.
Scott Benner (5:35) Your parents, his parents were thrilled or really upset?
Janelle (5:39) I think my parents were pretty okay with it other than the fact of, like, letting your only daughter get married before they turn 20. (5:46) But I think I mean, I don't think there was any, like, ill feelings necessarily kind of just like, do we really wanna let them go through with this this young? (5:53) Or
Scott Benner (5:53) No kidding. (5:54) Do you have a lot of siblings?
Janelle (5:56) No. (5:56) I'm an only child.
Scott Benner (5:57) Get the hell out. (5:58) Everything you're saying is wrong. (6:01) Oh, this is super interesting. (6:03) Like, you're breaking all the little, like, preconceived notions I have about everything.
Janelle (6:07) Awesome.
Scott Benner (6:08) Yeah. (6:08) That's really cool. (6:10) Okay. (6:10) Okay. (6:11) Okay.
Scott Benner (6:11) Okay. (6:11) Wow. (6:12) I thought for sure it's like was like 10 of you, and your parents were like, ah, we figured one of them would be a disaster.
Speaker 3 (6:16) No. (6:17) No.
Scott Benner (6:17) It wasn't even like that. (6:18) Wait. (6:18) So you didn't even get married and have a baby right away. (6:20) You, like, got married and, like, lived a little bit of a life for a couple years.
Janelle (6:24) A little bit. (6:24) It was, we got married in December 2016, and my husband deployed in February 2017. (6:32) He was gone for the remainder of our first year of marriage. (6:36) And then once he was about to come home from deployment, I actually picked up my life from New York, which is where we were both born and raised, and I moved to North Carolina to be where he was going to be stationed at when he got back from deployment.
Scott Benner (6:49) Like, Upstate New York?
Janelle (6:50) So Rochester.
Scott Benner (6:51) Yeah. (6:52) Yeah. (6:52) That's Upstate New Okay. (6:53) As they would have said in the old Vietnam movies, was he in the or what was he doing while he was gone?
Janelle (7:00) He was on a ship. (7:01) He did a bunch of IT stuff while he was in the Marine Corps. (7:05) So he was kind of, like, not on the back line, so to speak. (7:08) Like, he he saw some stuff.
Scott Benner (7:09) Okay.
Janelle (7:10) But it wasn't necessarily, like, you know, on the front lines by any means.
Scott Benner (7:13) Okay. (7:14) He's a marine on a ship doing IT. (7:17) Yes. (7:17) That's the most 2,025 thing anybody's ever said to me. (7:21) It's crazy.
Scott Benner (7:22) How was it being young and married and alone?
Janelle (7:25) I mean, it was kind of rough. (7:27) I still lived with my parents at the time, obviously, because I was so young. (7:31) It was just kind of hard trying to navigate that first year of marriage while being thousands and thousands of miles away from each other and barely getting to communicate at all.
Scott Benner (7:39) Yeah. (7:39) Did it it feel like you kinda weren't married?
Janelle (7:41) Sometimes, yeah. (7:42) I can see how I could could have felt like that.
Scott Benner (7:45) Did you ever look and see like a cute boy walking around and thinking like, why did I pick one that left right away?
Janelle (7:50) No. (7:51) I actually never had those feelings.
Scott Benner (7:52) Oh, good for him. (7:54) Yeah. (7:54) He'll like to hear that is what I'm saying is if he listens to this. (7:57) Oh my god. (7:58) You're like an old fashioned broad.
Scott Benner (7:59) Do you know what I mean by that, Janelle?
Janelle (8:01) Kind of. (8:02) Yeah.
Scott Benner (8:02) Yeah. (8:02) You have like a big unapologetic happy personality.
Janelle (8:06) Why, thank you.
Scott Benner (8:07) Yeah. (8:07) You would have fit in the fifties really well, but people would have thought you were mentally ill at that point.
Janelle (8:11) Oh, a 100%.
Scott Benner (8:12) Let's find out if you're mentally ill now.
Janelle (8:14) I don't know. (8:14) We'll have to ask my therapist.
Scott Benner (8:15) Oh, don't worry. (8:16) We'll be able to figure it out in the next twenty two minutes. (8:18) It's really not it's not that difficult. (8:22) So he goes off, you're there, blah blah blah. (8:25) He comes back, Then there's, like, the, oh, you're here, and then you made a baby thing.
Janelle (8:29) Yeah. (8:29) Pretty much. (8:30) A few months after he got back from deployment.
Scott Benner (8:32) Okay. (8:32) And how long until that baby got diabetes?
Janelle (8:35) He was diagnosed when he was three.
Scott Benner (8:38) Okay. (8:39) So twenty twenty twenty, maybe?
Janelle (8:43) '22.
Scott Benner (8:44) 2022. (8:44) I was just trying to do the math from when you said you got married and everything. (8:47) So June '22, your then three year old? (8:52) Yes. (8:53) He is diagnosed with type one.
Scott Benner (8:54) Does it oh my gosh. (8:55) Hold on a second. (8:56) I don't usually record this late in the day. (8:59) Oh my god. (8:59) The so this alright.
Scott Benner (9:02) So the sprinkler system's going off in the chameleon's cage right now, which drew my attention, and it's loud. (9:07) So we're pretty much gonna talk over for a second. (9:09) But I looked up. (9:10) He's walking all over the place. (9:11) He's excited because the water's coming down.
Scott Benner (9:13) But I looked up. (9:14) There is a silkworm riding on his back.
Speaker 3 (9:17) Oh, my gosh.
Scott Benner (9:18) I'm gonna need to get that off of him. (9:20) So I'm gonna get up in a second and get rid of that for
Janelle (9:22) him. (9:23) Okay.
Scott Benner (9:24) And then I really thought you're gonna eat that. (9:26) He had two today. (9:27) He doesn't usually eat the silkworms.
Janelle (9:29) Oh my gosh.
Scott Benner (9:30) But he knocked down a couple today. (9:31) And I thought, oh, let me put an extra one in there for him. (9:33) Maybe he'll go after it. (9:34) It turns out the thing just found him is riding on him like like it's a circus in there. (9:40) What a ridiculous image of it.
Scott Benner (9:42) You should just see him licking these water droplets off the branches.
Janelle (9:44) Oh my god.
Scott Benner (9:45) He's so excited the water's coming down. (9:47) So I don't wanna interrupt him while he's doing that. (9:49) So this is gonna stop in about thirty seconds. (9:51) I'm gonna get up and snatch up the silkworm, then I'm gonna come back and find out about your kid's diagnosis. (9:58) Rob is probably gonna put an ad right here, just so you know.
Janelle (10:01) Hey. (10:01) That's perfect then.
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Scott Benner (12:32) But so I I wish you could see this. (12:34) It's so ridiculous. (12:35) It's this giant chameleon with this tiny little silkworm, like, standing on it.
Janelle (12:40) Oh, my gosh. (12:40) How long before you think he can get it off his back?
Scott Benner (12:42) He's not gonna be able to get rid of it. (12:45) That thing will live there forever. (12:46) He wants to. (12:46) He's not gonna
Janelle (12:47) Oh, my gosh.
Scott Benner (12:48) They're not quick. (12:49) Do you know what mean? (12:50) Like, he can't start, like, darting around or, like, spinning or anything like that.
Janelle (12:54) Oh, yeah. (12:54) That silkworm's like, it's the best day of my freaking life right now.
Scott Benner (12:57) I mean, it's pretty much on the travel channel right now. (12:59) It's seen Yeah. (13:01) It has seen every square inch of this this cage today. (13:04) It's been all over the place. (13:05) Alright.
Scott Benner (13:05) Hold on. (13:06) I'm gonna I'm gonna take off my oh, hold on. (13:08) I have to move my my conductor's wand. (13:11) I should explain that to you when I get back to you. (13:12) I'll be right back.
Scott Benner (13:13) Hold on. (13:13) Okay. (13:14) That was ridiculous. (13:17) Conductor's wand. (13:17) Steven made me a conductor's wand.
Scott Benner (13:19) I hold it while I'm recording sometimes.
Janelle (13:21) Okay.
Scott Benner (13:21) Yeah. (13:22) That's neither here nor there, and only Steven's gonna understand that. (13:24) But I really appreciate it, and it's, it's really wonderful. (13:28) Okay. (13:28) So in your family, any other autoimmune?
Scott Benner (13:31) Is there any reason to think that diabetes was coming? (13:34) Anything like that?
Janelle (13:35) Not like any specific, like, type one diagnoses. (13:39) My mother-in-law has some autoimmune stuff. (13:41) Other than that, not really. (13:44) It was we were kinda blindsided to some degree.
Scott Benner (13:46) What's her stuff, the mother-in-law?
Janelle (13:48) She has lupus, and then, I can't remember what the other one is off the top of my head.
Scott Benner (13:54) RA, hypothyroidism, Graves' disease, celiac. (13:59) No. (13:59) I'm not saying any of the words. (14:01) No. (14:01) Vitilago.
Scott Benner (14:03) No. (14:03) Oh, what's the, the one with the cold fingers? (14:07) Oh, damn.
Janelle (14:09) No. (14:09) I don't think so.
Scott Benner (14:10) Okay. (14:10) Alright. (14:10) Well, whatever. (14:11) Okay. (14:12) So your mother-in-law has some, autoimmune, but other than that, you don't have her any nothing that would make you think type one.
Scott Benner (14:17) Yeah. (14:18) What happens that makes you think something's up with the baby?
Janelle (14:21) We were actually up in New York visiting my husband's family, and we were on vacation there for almost, like, two weeks, I think. (14:27) And, obviously, you know how it is when you get around the grandparents and they're spoiling the kids and all the sugar, all that kind of stuff. (14:33) And that's when we really noticed a difference in him just constantly drinking water, couldn't drink enough water, peeing through multiple overnight pull ups during a two hour nap. (14:43) Once we got towards the end of the trip, I was really starting to, like, get concerned about it. (14:47) Yeah.
Janelle (14:47) And I went down the doctor Google black hole most like every other mom, and I saw that it could possibly be a sign of type one diabetes. (14:58) Mhmm. (14:58) And I was I remember having a conversation a few days before we left with my mother-in-law and her mentioning to me, like, oh, hey. (15:03) Like, don't worry about it. (15:04) Like, we have, like, bladder issues on our side of the family.
Janelle (15:07) And I was like, oh, okay. (15:07) Like, that would make a lot of sense. (15:11) So I kind of, like, forced myself to, like, think it was that so I didn't, like, cause a spiral. (15:17) But on our way on our drive back, it's a, like, twelve hour drive, and I decided to call our son's pediatrician's office just to get him in to be seen, just to be safe because I had this, like, nagging feeling in the back of my head that it wasn't bladder issues. (15:32) Yeah.
Janelle (15:33) And so we called and got him an appointment for the next day. (15:37) We literally got home that night at, like, nine or 10PM. (15:42) And by 07:30 in the next morning, I was bringing him to his pediatrician's office. (15:47) Mhmm. (15:47) On the way there, I had let him have, like, a couple animal crackers as a breakfast because I wasn't gonna have time to feed him a real breakfast before we left.
Janelle (15:55) Hindsight is twenty twenty. (15:56) I should have left him fasting for that, but I'm kind of glad I didn't. (15:59) We got to the office. (16:01) They checked his blood sugar, and he was one seventy, I believe, after just a couple of animal crackers. (16:08) And they were like, that's weird.
Janelle (16:10) Let's test his urine. (16:11) Came back with large ketones. (16:13) They tested his finger again, and his blood sugar had actually gone down to, like, one thirty. (16:17) His pediatrician was so confused. (16:20) He called the on call endocrinologist at our children's hospital, and she was equally as confused.
Janelle (16:28) He was like, I I think it's type one diabetes, but this is, like, the slowest onset case of type one diabetes I think I've ever seen. (16:36) So he's like, you need to go to the children's hospital right now. (16:40) Don't go home. (16:41) Don't pass go. (16:42) Don't collect $200.
Janelle (16:43) Just go. (16:44) I mean, we show up and we get to the emergency room, and they are trying to get, you know, blood work from him and everything, and they have to bribe him with a popsicle. (16:56) And by the time he had eaten that popsicle afterwards, they poked his finger another, like, twenty minutes later, and he was in the 2 hundreds. (17:01) And as soon as I saw that, I already knew.
Scott Benner (17:03) Yeah.
Janelle (17:04) But, you know, we waited a couple hours before they came back in and officially told us that he had type one. (17:09) Okay. (17:09) And it was just, like, wild, honestly, because it's like you you have the feeling in your gut, but you don't want it to be true.
Scott Benner (17:16) Sure. (17:17) No. (17:17) I I understand.
Janelle (17:18) And I it was it was like, it was just so wild.
Scott Benner (17:20) Also interesting, isn't it, that people say doctor Google like a pejorative, but it was, perfectly figured out what was wrong with him.
Janelle (17:27) Yeah. (17:27) Yeah. (17:27) Yeah.
Scott Benner (17:28) We would have to get past that as being an insult in the future. (17:31) Seems like Agreed.
Janelle (17:32) Agreed. (17:33) Sometimes it can be, but in this case, it was it was beneficial.
Scott Benner (17:36) Yeah. (17:36) No. (17:36) I think what can happen, obviously, is you could get type in the wrong thing or or lead Uh-huh. (17:41) Lead it astray or something and then end up way down the wrong path. (17:44) But yeah.
Scott Benner (17:44) Listen. (17:45) You figured it out. (17:45) That was awesome. (17:46) Yeah. (17:46) Also, the bladder.
Scott Benner (17:47) I'd spent twenty minutes right now talking to your mother-in-law. (17:50) Like, tell me what the bladder issues in your family are. (17:52) Like, that's a fascinating state. (17:54) But, like, I mean, that's that's not just a thing you say because somebody pees a lot one time. (17:58) You know what I mean?
Scott Benner (17:59) Like, I wonder what all that means. (18:00) That's really interesting. (18:01) Is your husband with you, at the hospital?
Janelle (18:04) Yes. (18:05) So he I was the one that brought Paxton, my son, to the, doctor's office because at that time, my daughter was, let me do the math, like, 18 old, I wanna say. (18:16) Mhmm. (18:17) So, you know, I wasn't gonna drag her into the doctor's office if I didn't need to. (18:21) So he was at home with her.
Janelle (18:23) And as soon as they sent us to the children's hospital, I called him and then let him know kind of what was going on, and he started packing us a bag. (18:31) Yeah. (18:31) He took my daughter to my parents' house so that way they could watch her, and then he met us at the hospital.
Scott Benner (18:37) Wow. (18:38) Did you go to college?
Janelle (18:40) I went to college for a semester and a half before I dropped out.
Scott Benner (18:42) Okay. (18:43) And why are you, mature? (18:47) You are. (18:48) Right? (18:48) You've been like this your whole life?
Janelle (18:50) I feel like I always have Yeah. (18:51) To some degree.
Scott Benner (18:52) Like oh, so my point is is that not that you have to go to college, but, like, sometimes you go to college and you spend a bunch of years having problems and figuring them out and getting through them and stuff like that. (19:00) You didn't have that. (19:01) Yeah. (19:01) You had you I mean, so you went right from high school to being married.
Janelle (19:04) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (19:04) Then he's gone for a year. (19:06) That's tough. (19:06) That's a thing to get through. (19:07) But you were still with your family. (19:09) Why are you so solid?
Scott Benner (19:10) What's going on right now? (19:12) What did your parents do to you? (19:15) Like, everyone wants to know, like, how their children can be this level headed. (19:19) How do we make that happen?
Janelle (19:21) I I honestly couldn't tell you. (19:22) I mean, like, I have I have amazing parents, and I'm very grateful for the environment that I got to grow up in. (19:29) But I also think, like, having to mature air quotes at a younger age by being married and kind of having to, you know, figure out how to be in a marriage when you are that young also kind of helped me, like, push along that process a little bit and then getting thrown a life altering diagnosis for my three year old when I was 24.
Scott Benner (19:50) Yeah. (19:51) That's what I'm That's really young.
Janelle (19:52) No option but to mature.
Scott Benner (19:54) Mhmm. (19:55) That's very, very young. (19:56) Kelly wasn't much older than that one, you know, when all this happened. (20:00) Yeah. (20:00) But we were still we we still, like, had, like, adult jobs for quite a while at that point.
Scott Benner (20:05) Like, you know, you're still we still had other opportunities. (20:08) Let let's pick through your family real quickly. (20:10) I mean, I'm really, like, fascinated by this. (20:12) Would you yes. (20:13) Simple yes or no questions.
Scott Benner (20:14) Usually, your parents are drunks? (20:16) No. (20:17) You've seen them high? (20:19) No. (20:20) They took you to church?
Scott Benner (20:22) No. (20:22) They have a mental illness that you're aware of? (20:26) No. (20:26) Is it that simple? (20:28) If you all
Janelle (20:28) just I guess so.
Scott Benner (20:29) Is it really, like, that easy?
Janelle (20:31) Is this the magic equation? (20:32) I don't know.
Scott Benner (20:33) Yeah. (20:33) They were interested in you?
Janelle (20:35) Yeah.
Scott Benner (20:36) Yeah. (20:36) You felt loved? (20:37) Yeah. (20:38) But not smothered? (20:39) No.
Scott Benner (20:40) They left you alone once in a while when they went out? (20:42) Yeah. (20:43) Yeah. (20:43) How about that? (20:44) See how easy it is, everybody?
Scott Benner (20:45) There you go. (20:46) Do whatever Janelle's parents did, and everything is gonna be fine. (20:50) Wow. (20:51) Good for them. (20:52) I'd like to introduce that.
Scott Benner (20:53) I'd like to I'd like to speak to your parents. (20:55) I it seems like it seems like they might know something.
Janelle (20:58) I guess so.
Scott Benner (20:58) So okay. (20:59) So this is happening. (21:01) I mean, obviously, you're really young, and it's it's a lot. (21:05) But Mhmm. (21:06) How do you adjust to it?
Scott Benner (21:07) Like, are you living near your parents or his parents at that point?
Janelle (21:11) At that point, yeah. (21:12) Like I said, all all of us are kind of originally from Rochester. (21:16) But once we got pregnant with Paxton, my parents were like, well, screw it. (21:20) We're gonna we're gonna move down, and we're gonna follow you. (21:23) And they had kind of always had that intention.
Janelle (21:25) Obviously, I'm their only kid, so it's not like they've got anything to leave behind so to speak.
Scott Benner (21:29) Talk to them to each other? (21:30) That's ridiculous. (21:31) Yeah. (21:32) Yeah. (21:32) Yeah.
Janelle (21:33) So I think they were they they had moved down here before we actually had Paxton, and they've been down here ever since. (21:39) And now they live five minutes down the road.
Scott Benner (21:41) Selfless they are. (21:42) Yeah. (21:43) And at the same time, they wanted to be near family. (21:45) Yeah. (21:46) I hope everyone's taking notes.
Scott Benner (21:47) Or you just take the transcript later, drop it to AI and say, hey, how come Janelle's parents are solid people? (21:54) How can I be too? (21:55) It'll probably just spit it right back at you. (21:58) Well, that's really cool. (21:59) Listen, it's the thing that stops us from like, we're too old, like, at this point.
Scott Benner (22:04) Like, our kids are just about done with us. (22:06) You know what I mean? (22:06) Mhmm. (22:07) And you start thinking about, like, what? (22:08) Am I gonna stay here forever?
Scott Benner (22:10) Like, am I sitting in New Jersey and pay these incredible taxes for no reason? (22:13) Yeah. (22:13) You know? (22:13) And you start thinking about places to go and everything, but it always stops you because you think, like, well, where are the kids gonna be?
Janelle (22:19) Exactly. (22:20) Yeah.
Scott Benner (22:20) Yeah. (22:20) I know the kids aren't thinking about that. (22:22) They're not like, oh, I don't wanna go somewhere where my parents can't be. (22:24) But they didn't know we Yeah. (22:25) That we're gonna stalk them for sure.
Scott Benner (22:28) So, but it's probably great. (22:30) Right? (22:30) Because you're you probably got to all learn the diabetes together, and
Janelle (22:34) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (22:34) They're probably good caregivers for him as well, I imagine.
Janelle (22:37) Yeah. (22:37) It's super convenient because my mom's also on our end. (22:39) Oh. (22:39) So
Scott Benner (22:40) Well, hell. (22:40) Let's get her a job. (22:41) Are they, what what's that word when you stop working on purpose? (22:46) Retired? (22:47) Jesus.
Janelle (22:48) No. (22:48) They're neither of my parents are retired.
Scott Benner (22:50) Oh my god. (22:51) I couldn't think of the word retired just now.
Janelle (22:54) It's three it's 03:00 on a Friday.
Scott Benner (22:56) When people stop working on purpose, I said. (23:00) What in the hell? (23:02) That's embarrassing. (23:04) Also, I'm so I'm pretty upset because the chameleon's staring at the leaves wondering why there's no more water. (23:09) I'm, like, trying to remember that when I get done here, I'm gonna have to give them a little more to drink.
Scott Benner (23:12) So your parent your mom's still working. (23:16) Your dad's not retired. (23:17) Oh, yeah. (23:17) Because you're young. (23:18) You're, like, 12.
Janelle (23:19) Yeah. (23:20) Basically.
Scott Benner (23:21) They're probably my age. (23:22) Right?
Janelle (23:23) My mom is 58, and then my dad is about to turn 63.
Scott Benner (23:27) Oh, yeah. (23:27) Your mom's a little too old for me. (23:28) But I get it. (23:29) Like, not that's not too she holding it together? (23:31) Would I be interested?
Janelle (23:33) I I mean, I'm not I'm not sure.
Scott Benner (23:37) I just wanted to hear if you were gonna comment on your mom's looks or not. (23:40) That was awesome. (23:42) I don't really care. (23:43) I just wanted to know what you were gonna do. (23:45) Oh
Janelle (23:46) my gosh.
Scott Benner (23:47) I wonder if people realize how much of this is just me trying to see what people will say and not necessarily me caring what they're gonna say.
Janelle (23:55) Really pushed the limits there.
Scott Benner (23:56) I just wanna find out. (23:58) Plus, you know about the recording that I did earlier today that nobody listening knows. (24:01) I'm already, like, off kilter because of my my days events. (24:05) Listen. (24:06) If any of you are hearing this and thinking, I wonder why Scott's a little wacky today, go find an episode that I'll be calling squishy pushy.
Speaker 3 (24:14) Go find squishy pushy and listen to that. (24:18) Oh
Scott Benner (24:19) my god. (24:19) And you'll know why I'm giddy right now. (24:22) Anyway okay. (24:23) So how would you say it hit you, like, emotionally?
Janelle (24:27) I would say pretty hard. (24:29) Not to, like, any fault of his own, but I think, like, the first year after diagnosis, it was pretty much just me taking on everything.
Scott Benner (24:38) Mhmm.
Janelle (24:39) And it was just easier that way. (24:41) In my mind, I was like, I'll I'll become the master at this. (24:44) I'll figure out the ins and outs or whatever. (24:47) And then, you know, I was the one doing all of the all of the shots at the beginning. (24:52) And then, you know, once we got on a pump a month and a half later, I was the one doing all the pump changes and
Scott Benner (24:57) Okay.
Janelle (24:57) All of the, you know, middle of the night lows, middle of the night highs, everything like that. (25:01) And, I think around a year after Paxton's diagnosis is when I kind of hit, like, my breaking point. (25:07) Just, like, emotionally, mentally, I was like, I can't do this by myself anymore. (25:10) And then that's kinda when my husband got into, you know, high gear and wanted to learn everything and anything to, you know, help and support and, you know, take some of that weight off of my back. (25:20) And that was that was really nice.
Janelle (25:22) But I think that first year is always, like, just so hard trying to, like, integrate this diagnosis into your life and figure out how it fits.
Scott Benner (25:29) Yeah. (25:29) Janelle, I'm gonna ask an honest question. (25:30) Give me an honest answer. (25:31) Okay?
Janelle (25:32) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (25:32) Did he not want to be involved in the beginning, or did you did you set it up so that it was gonna be you and he probably felt like I should step back while she's doing this?
Janelle (25:42) I think part of it was just the fact that I threw my whole being into, you know, figuring everything out and also to the fact of I think he was also spending that first year trying to process a lot of his emotions about diagnosis, and so therefore, unconsciously distancing himself from it.
Scott Benner (26:03) Okay.
Janelle (26:03) Not, you know, out of malice or, you know, on purpose or anything like that. (26:07) Mhmm. (26:08) I think it needed to happen that way to some degree, and I'm, you know, somewhat grateful it did, but definitely a lot different nowadays than it was back in that first year.
Scott Benner (26:16) I think it's a function of his age a little bit. (26:19) Like, do you think he'd have the same reaction if it if the diagnosis happened today?
Janelle (26:24) I don't know.
Scott Benner (26:25) Interesting. (26:26) Because I can't imagine you being married to a shithead. (26:29) Like No. (26:30) So right. (26:30) Right.
Scott Benner (26:30) Right. (26:31) Right. (26:31) So, like, it just doesn't seem like you would it this is just never would have happened. (26:35) Like, you're too level headed. (26:37) Like, you had too much of a good base.
Scott Benner (26:39) Yeah. (26:39) I don't see you being married to a Nodex. (26:41) So, like, then I'm wondering, like, you know, the military is one thing, but it also sounds like he's just making sure people's emails work or something like that. (26:49) Like, not like he's out there, you know, getting in position. (26:53) You know what I'm saying?
Janelle (26:53) Yeah. (26:54) Yeah. (26:54) Yeah.
Scott Benner (26:54) So, like, maybe this is the first, like, real, like, struggle that hits him too because right? (27:00) I mean, you're young. (27:01) You fall in love in high school. (27:02) You get married when you're young. (27:04) It's a it's a lovely story.
Scott Benner (27:05) He goes off to the military. (27:07) You wait for him. (27:08) You start a life. (27:09) You make a family. (27:09) Things are going pretty well right before that diagnosis.
Janelle (27:12) Yeah.
Scott Benner (27:12) Yeah. (27:13) Okay. (27:14) So that takes him a little bit to pull together. (27:17) You probably ran forward with adrenaline for the first year, then you ran
Janelle (27:21) out Yeah.
Scott Benner (27:21) You ran out of that. (27:22) And then did you come to him and say, hey. (27:26) Time to tag in, or did he see it happening and and get in on his own?
Janelle (27:30) I think it was a little bit of both.
Scott Benner (27:32) Yeah. (27:32) Yeah. (27:33) Okay. (27:34) And then so did what did you know by then? (27:36) Like and did you pass it off to him, or did you let him come in cold and figure it out?
Janelle (27:40) I wanna say it was a lot of, like, I I'm very much a control freak. (27:45) So I think a lot of it was, like, I had him watch me do some pump changes, watch me, you know what I mean, treat the lows, try to teach him how to like, how much to give when he's this low or you know? (27:57) Yeah. (27:57) All that kind of stuff and kind of, like, almost shadow me for a little bit. (28:00) And then Mhmm.
Janelle (28:01) He he's a very quick learner, so it didn't take him very long. (28:04) And, especially, like, when we when we started the pump, we started on Omnipod, but we were on Omnipod for two and a half years. (28:12) And I'm gonna say, like, Omnipod is a very user friendly pump. (28:16) There's three steps. (28:17) You pop it on, and you're good to go.
Janelle (28:20) Mhmm. (28:20) And now about a year ago, we switched Paxton to the tandem Moby.
Scott Benner (28:25) Okay.
Janelle (28:25) And it's it's a lot more steps. (28:27) It's a lot more to remember. (28:29) So, you know, we've kind of been starting to slowly integrate the Moby into my husband's kind of routine with site changes as well too.
Scott Benner (28:38) I like that you made him your intern. (28:41) You know, like, listen, buddy. (28:42) You walk around here. (28:43) If you do a good enough job, we'll start paying you.
Janelle (28:45) Yeah. (28:45) Maybe. (28:45) Interesting.
Scott Benner (28:47) And, like, I I think people would wanna know more about that. (28:49) So if Moby's more steps to use and less user friendly for you Mhmm. (28:54) Why'd you change?
Janelle (28:56) Better algorithm.
Scott Benner (28:57) So you like the the more aggressive nature of the tandem algorithm over the Omnipod algorithm?
Janelle (29:02) Yeah. (29:03) I do. (29:04) When we were back on Omnipod, we just kinda really struggled to get his blood sugar under control, and I couldn't, for the life of me, figure out how no matter what changes I made, it was just never good enough. (29:15) And we we had a lot of those first few years, whether it be because he honeymooned for eighteen months or just whatever. (29:22) His his blood sugar was wild for those first two and a half years that we were on Omnipod, and I don't know if it was because of Omnipod or if it was because of something else.
Janelle (29:31) But I just wanted more control, and I had heard great things about the Control IQ algorithm. (29:36) And I had a personal friend that had her son on the Moby, and I was like, well, screw it. (29:42) We're just gonna switch because it can't get any worse.
Scott Benner (29:44) Right.
Janelle (29:44) And it's been it's been amazing.
Scott Benner (29:46) And and you happen to you happen to know because we chatted before we started that the lady from squishy pushy, she really likes the Omnipod for reasons that
Janelle (29:55) She does. (29:56) Yeah. (29:56) Yeah. (29:56) And I mean, hey. (29:57) They each their own.
Janelle (29:57) It just didn't work for for my four year old.
Scott Benner (30:00) Her reasons are definitely not the same reasons your four year old is gonna
Janelle (30:04) Yeah. (30:04) Just slightly.
Scott Benner (30:05) Yeah. (30:07) Makes it reminds me as you're talking that Omnipod has they're doing a study right now. (30:12) It seems to me that the study is on another version of that algorithm.
Janelle (30:16) So Okay.
Scott Benner (30:16) Yeah. (30:16) It looks like they're gonna I don't know what their plan is, but my assumption is is that they're gonna, it's just it up a little bit. (30:23) So
Janelle (30:23) I mean, hey. (30:24) Yeah. (30:24) That would be nice.
Scott Benner (30:25) Interesting. (30:26) One way or the other, whether you want the convenience of Tubeless or the Tandem Moby, you should just use the links in the show notes of the podcast player to go check it out and find out more. (30:35) Because like Janelle said earlier, click on the links, help the podcast.
Janelle (30:38) Yeah. (30:39) Click on them.
Scott Benner (30:39) Yeah. (30:39) Excellent. (30:40) Thank you. (30:40) Look at you. (30:41) You're good at this.
Scott Benner (30:42) Okay. (30:43) Husband comes on board, understands. (30:45) Would you say now these three years later are things where you do you like them to be? (30:50) And did you think he was honeymooning for this first two years?
Janelle (30:54) I I truly think that Paxton spent a good eighteen months honeymooning, especially when, you know, back then we would talk to his endocrinologist, and she didn't really have an answer for anything other than the fact that he was still honeymooning. (31:06) And we could tell when it when it ended because it hit hard.
Scott Benner (31:09) I can hear the PR people at Omnipod listening to this right now, and they're like, oh, it's just always six more months. (31:15) It would have been okay.
Speaker 3 (31:17) The honeymoon. (31:18) Don't blame the pump. (31:19) That's
Scott Benner (31:20) I know. (31:20) I know.
Janelle (31:21) Well, to be fair, we still stayed on it a year after he ended his honeymoon, so I gave it a fair shot.
Scott Benner (31:25) Did you ever try to reset it? (31:28) Yeah. (31:28) Yeah.
Janelle (31:28) We had to reset it multiple times.
Scott Benner (31:30) Never helped you?
Janelle (31:31) No. (31:32) Okay.
Scott Benner (31:32) It's not where it didn't it just didn't work. (31:34) This is what we talk about all the time. (31:36) Like, it's just not the right fit for you.
Janelle (31:37) Yeah. (31:38) And it's like, I I truly think that there are plenty of people, and I know plenty of people that, like, benefit so much from the Omnipod, and it just didn't it just didn't work for Paxton, and I'm okay with that.
Scott Benner (31:48) Yeah. (31:48) No. (31:48) No. (31:48) It's listen. (31:49) I think it's good to you to be flexible and to try something else too.
Scott Benner (31:52) I think that's a great idea instead of sitting and beating your head against the same wall if that's what's happening, you know. (31:57) Yeah. (31:58) Awesome. (31:58) Okay. (31:59) So he's in school now?
Janelle (32:01) He's homeschooled.
Scott Benner (32:02) Oh, wait a minute. (32:03) You're gonna try to turn another reasonable person out into the world? (32:06) Is that what your goal is?
Janelle (32:07) Trying my best.
Scott Benner (32:09) So I was gonna ask you how you handle school, but apparently, handled the same way you handled the living room. (32:13) So Yeah. (32:13) Yeah. (32:14) Were you always gonna do that, or was that a function of the diabetes, do you think?
Janelle (32:18) It was it was a mix of both. (32:20) I kind of always liked the idea of homeschool back before I had kids, but didn't know if it would be, like, feasible.
Scott Benner (32:28) Mhmm.
Janelle (32:29) And then kind of once we got that diabetes diagnosis and learned a little bit more, like, specifically to the area that we live in to the fact that, like, public schools aren't required to have a nurse on staff every day. (32:41) So they have floating nurses who are only there one to two days a week.
Scott Benner (32:44) Okay.
Janelle (32:45) I wasn't comfortable with that. (32:47) So we kind of just made the decision for at least now to homeschool him until he is old enough to kind of do most of his management by himself and also be able to advocate for himself and stand up if, you know, someone tries to tell him something that isn't right.
Scott Benner (33:00) Sure.
Janelle (33:01) But yeah. (33:01) So we're we're riding with the homeschool right now, and he's he's liking it a lot.
Scott Benner (33:05) Nice. (33:05) Are you getting paid?
Janelle (33:06) I am not, unfortunately.
Scott Benner (33:08) Seems unfair. (33:11) It didn't occur to me until you you the way you mentioned it earlier. (33:14) But, like, when he's being diagnosed, do you have an 18 old at that point? (33:17) Yeah. (33:18) Jeez.
Scott Benner (33:19) That's a that's a lot. (33:20) Yeah. (33:22) Alright. (33:22) Do you think you'll have more kids?
Janelle (33:24) No. (33:24) We are completely done.
Scott Benner (33:25) You are completely done?
Janelle (33:27) We are completely done. (33:28) I have a type one diabetic, and I have a redheaded daughter. (33:30) I think we can just put the period there
Scott Benner (33:33) It's all good.
Janelle (33:33) And we are good.
Scott Benner (33:36) I think you said completely done because using the word completely before done is not necessary. (33:40) It did
Janelle (33:42) I just really wanna emphasize that.
Scott Benner (33:43) I just wanna emphasize that no. (33:45) I I won't be having any more kids.
Janelle (33:47) You couldn't pay me, actually.
Scott Benner (33:49) Is the girl, is she what they call a spitfire? (33:51) Is a
Janelle (33:52) Oh, a 100%. (33:53) It's a mix of the second child syndrome with being a redhead, and it's a deadly combination.
Scott Benner (33:58) Are you or your husband redheads?
Janelle (34:00) We have redhead in the family, but neither of us are actually redheaded.
Scott Benner (34:05) Oh, did that freak you out when it popped out?
Janelle (34:07) More so the fact that we chose her name halfway through the pregnancy and her name is Amber. (34:11) No. (34:12) And so it was kind of just like this happy coincidence, and I'm like, don't I don't think this could have happened any other way.
Speaker 3 (34:17) Wait. (34:17) Stop it. (34:18) You named
Scott Benner (34:18) your daughter Ember before you realized she was a redhead and you didn't have any real reason to think she was gonna be have red hair?
Janelle (34:24) Yeah.
Scott Benner (34:24) Oh, that's kinda cool. (34:26) Yeah. (34:26) It is cool. (34:27) What do you by the way, I don't know any redheads personally. (34:29) Like, what is it you're what what is it you're referring to?
Janelle (34:33) I mean, usually, redheads are pretty crazy Really? (34:35) To my understanding, at least. (34:36) I think that's the stereotype.
Scott Benner (34:37) Oh, wait a minute. (34:39) You know, I grew up with a kid named Jim. (34:41) Can I say Jim Woodson? (34:43) Why why not? (34:43) Jim Wood.
Scott Benner (34:44) He he had a bit of that redhead energy. (34:47) He did.
Janelle (34:48) Yeah. (34:48) I think redheads are just built different.
Scott Benner (34:51) Alright. (34:51) Hey, Jim. (34:51) If you're out there, what's up, man? (34:54) In your mid fifties right now wondering how you got mentioned on a diabetes podcast.
Janelle (34:59) Full circle event here.
Scott Benner (35:00) You live right down the street from the apartment I grew up in. (35:03) So you crossed the street from Eric. (35:05) That is really not important, I don't think, to to anyone listening. (35:08) Okay. (35:10) So what is mean, what's your goal coming on the podcast?
Scott Benner (35:14) Like, what what made you reach out?
Janelle (35:15) I think just forcing myself to get out of my comfort zone a little bit. (35:18) I think with having a kid with type one diabetes, it kind of, like, becomes your whole personality, and you kind of lose yourself in that. (35:24) And so I'm kind of trying to get back to finding myself a little bit and finding things that I enjoy, and I figured that pushing myself to come on a podcast would kind of be a good little first step.
Scott Benner (35:34) How do you lose yourself? (35:35) Describe it.
Janelle (35:38) I think you something happens in your brain where the only reason you're really living is to to keep your kid alive. (35:46) And, obviously, every parent has to keep their kid alive to some degree, but it's it's so much different when they are basically on you know, when they're on insulin, they're on life support to some degree. (35:59) Mhmm. (35:59) And it's like, I think when you look at it like that and I try not to too much because then it causes me to spiral. (36:05) But it looking at it like that, it kind of puts it into a better perspective of, like, you kind of don't think there's really time for anything else other than putting all of your attention and focus into keeping this child alive.
Scott Benner (36:18) Is any of this a function of this type a thing you were talking about?
Janelle (36:22) Probably. (36:22) Yeah.
Scott Benner (36:23) I mean, do you feel like if you didn't have that kind of personality that you might not feel this way about the rest of it?
Janelle (36:29) I think it's definitely a possibility. (36:31) Yeah.
Scott Benner (36:31) Okay. (36:32) I mean, I said we were gonna try to find your mental illness in twenty two minutes. (36:35) I don't know if we did or not, but it's pretty close.
Janelle (36:37) I I don't know.
Scott Benner (36:38) Does it impact any other parts of your life? (36:40) Do you have trouble, like, making time for other things?
Janelle (36:44) Yeah. (36:45) I think I struggle to make time, like, specifically for myself. (36:48) Like, it's hard for me to go and, like, do things by myself without just, like, staring at the follow-up the entire time I'm gone.
Scott Benner (36:56) Were you like that before the diabetes?
Janelle (36:58) To some extent, I don't think it was this bad, though.
Scott Benner (37:00) Okay. (37:00) Do you have, like, mom guilt Yes. (37:03) On top of everything?
Janelle (37:04) But I had mom guilt before the diabetes too. (37:05) So it just, like, got, you know, exacerbated with the diagnosis.
Scott Benner (37:09) What's mom guilt look like when you're, like, 24 years old and you have a baby?
Janelle (37:15) I guess I would say probably, like, to some degree thinking, like, how am I even old enough to, like, raise this being? (37:24) Like, I'm barely old enough to function myself. (37:27) And thinking, like, you know, I could probably be doing so much better if I was older, but you're not. (37:33) So you gotta figure it out.
Scott Benner (37:34) The little impostor syndrome on being a mom and then start feeling like, well, if I would have just done this differently, maybe I'd be a better mom. (37:42) Yeah. (37:42) Why did you think you weren't a good mom? (37:44) By the way, we're two steps away from realizing you have anxiety. (37:47) I'm just getting to it.
Scott Benner (37:48) That's all.
Janelle (37:48) You're not wrong.
Scott Benner (37:50) No. (37:50) I know. (37:54) Just didn't know if you knew. (37:56) That's all. (37:56) I'm sorry.
Scott Benner (37:57) Didn't wanna spring it on I just didn't wanna spring it on you.
Janelle (37:59) I had I had the I had the little Pandora's box over here, I'm like, is he gonna is he gonna find the key for it? (38:03) Or
Scott Benner (38:04) Probably. (38:04) I mean, if not, then I should probably pack it in. (38:06) Right? (38:07) So and I don't I can't quit making this podcast now.
Janelle (38:10) I feel like I put too much time into this.
Scott Benner (38:12) Well, no. (38:13) Not just that. (38:14) Today, I had this meeting with these people I'm doing a talk for coming up. (38:19) And it's by the way, no one you're never gonna know what don't even bother guessing what it is. (38:22) And and so I'm doing some public speaking for somebody, and at the end of the meeting, the person on the call, like, very sincerely says I said to him, well, I gotta go.
Scott Benner (38:31) I gotta go jump on a call. (38:32) I'm recording an episode. (38:33) I didn't, at that time, know that I was going to record, squishy pushy. (38:37) But at the time and she and she looked at me real sincerely, and she's like, go change the world. (38:42) And I was like, oh my gosh.
Scott Benner (38:43) Like, I will. (38:45) Thank you. (38:45) Yeah. (38:46) But this person knows the podcast and knows me, and that's their feeling about me. (38:49) And I thought, oh, I didn't like, it was so strange to it was nice, but it was strange to just have a a a stranger sit down in front of you and tell you what the thing they think you're doing.
Janelle (38:59) Yeah. (38:59) That's awesome, though.
Scott Benner (39:00) Yeah. (39:00) It was really cool. (39:00) But so I guess my point is is that you're if you're that young and you're feeling like, oh, I'm probably failing at this, but you're not. (39:10) Like, there's no there's no indicators that you're failing at it. (39:13) Yeah.
Scott Benner (39:13) Then you're worried about something that doesn't exist, and to some degree, that's anxiety. (39:17) So have you been anxious your whole life?
Janelle (39:19) Yeah. (39:20) I think so.
Scott Benner (39:20) Yeah? (39:21) Yeah. (39:21) Is it a type one person type a personality, or is it a anxiety, or is it a mix?
Janelle (39:26) It's definitely a mix.
Scott Benner (39:28) And who do you think after your mom or your dad?
Janelle (39:31) My mom.
Scott Benner (39:31) Gotcha. (39:33) And is your dad, like, all laid back while she's out of her mind? (39:36) Yep. (39:37) Did you marry a guy who's all laid back? (39:39) Yep.
Scott Benner (39:39) Is that why you characterized him as not getting involved right away because he didn't meet your level of involvement?
Janelle (39:45) Maybe to some degree. (39:46) Yeah.
Scott Benner (39:47) Yeah. (39:47) $40 is my co pay on this, by the way. (39:51) No one's ever sent me the 40. (39:52) I just wanna be clear. (39:53) I I keep waiting for someone to, like, find me and just put a co pay in my hand, but it's not today, I guess.
Janelle (39:58) Be the worst thing?
Scott Benner (39:59) I mean, I don't think I can make a real living $40 at a time, but it would be a nice, add on income. (40:07) I wouldn't I wouldn't say no to it. (40:09) Yeah. (40:10) Also, I'm not fishing for everyone to send me 40.
Janelle (40:14) He's gonna drop his Venmo here.
Scott Benner (40:15) Well, I just know there's 10, like, unstable people out there, so he's trying to get them to pay them. (40:21) I'm not. (40:22) You're just crazy. (40:22) So or you don't hear sarcasm. (40:24) I can't tell which it is.
Scott Benner (40:25) I don't have time for you people. (40:27) But, wow. (40:28) Okay. (40:28) So, like, so all this is going. (40:30) Is this a thing that you've learned about yourself and you're actively working on, or is it a thing that you've learned about yourself and you're just accepting?
Janelle (40:36) I think there's a degree of both that have to happen. (40:39) I think you have to accept that this is kind of the way you are before you can start to want to work on it and change it.
Scott Benner (40:45) Are you at that point? (40:46) Yeah. (40:47) Okay. (40:48) And this is part of that? (40:49) Like, coming on here and pushing through some comfort zones as part of your, like, working on yourself thing?
Scott Benner (40:54) Yeah. (40:55) Nice. (40:56) Yeah. (40:56) Oh, so I didn't tell you anything you didn't know? (41:00) No.
Scott Benner (41:00) But are you a little surprised that I figured it out just through this conversation?
Janelle (41:04) Not really.
Scott Benner (41:05) Oh, you listen to the podcast then. (41:07) Yeah. (41:07) Yeah. (41:07) Okay. (41:09) Well, for the other people, they're surprised.
Scott Benner (41:10) Some people think I'm a magician right now. (41:12) Okay? (41:14) Some people are just like, my god, he does this all the time. (41:17) So irritating.
Janelle (41:18) They're like, oh, another therapy session.
Scott Benner (41:20) God, that's not my fault. (41:21) I didn't get married out of high school. (41:24) You did. (41:26) Were you afraid you were gonna lose him? (41:29) Is it because he went does it because he went into the military?
Scott Benner (41:33) Why'd you get married?
Janelle (41:33) Honestly, I think
Scott Benner (41:35) You'll be divorced by the time we get done.
Janelle (41:40) I mean, maybe. (41:42) I don't know. (41:42) I think it was just a fact of that we knew we were gonna get married. (41:45) So then at that point, we were like, well, why wait?
Scott Benner (41:48) Okay.
Janelle (41:49) And just kinda went with that mindset.
Scott Benner (41:51) We got married for car insurance.
Janelle (41:53) Hey.
Scott Benner (41:53) So, I mean, your reason sounds as good as ours did.
Janelle (41:58) They're about equal. (41:58) Yeah.
Scott Benner (41:59) Should've got my wife got a good job, and we couldn't afford car insurance.
Speaker 3 (42:07) It does. (42:08) I mean, people
Scott Benner (42:09) have gotten married for worse reasons, haven't they?
Janelle (42:10) Oh, a 100%.
Scott Benner (42:12) Yeah. (42:12) We're still married, by the way. (42:13) I don't know if you all know that, but next year is Okay. (42:16) Our thirtieth Yeah. (42:19) That's crazy.
Scott Benner (42:20) Right? (42:20) You're not even 30 years old. (42:22) Yeah. (42:23) Yeah. (42:23) Can you imagine being married thirty years from now?
Janelle (42:26) Yeah. (42:26) I can imagine it. (42:27) I mean, I've watched my parents stay married for that long plus some.
Scott Benner (42:30) Are they doing it despite each other or they actually seem happy?
Janelle (42:34) No. (42:35) They're actually happy.
Scott Benner (42:36) They're just they're not just, you know, this long protracted battle to see which one can live longer. (42:41) No. (42:41) Yeah. (42:42) Yeah. (42:42) So when one of them dies and go, I beat you.
Janelle (42:45) No. (42:46) Oh my gosh.
Scott Benner (42:47) My wife's definitely gonna do that. (42:49) If I drive first, she's gonna be like, I knew I could outlast him. (42:51) I think she'll be sad till the afternoon at least, though. (42:57) Yeah. (42:58) Yeah.
Scott Benner (42:58) Yeah.
Janelle (42:58) I think you deserve that much at least.
Scott Benner (43:00) I mean, a solid day. (43:01) I would I I think it would be hours. (43:03) I I don't want her to bring a date to the funeral is what I'm saying.
Janelle (43:06) So maybe a couple days then.
Scott Benner (43:07) Yeah. (43:07) Yeah. (43:08) We talked about my cremation last night. (43:09) That was fun. (43:10) I tried to explain to them that I thought they should press my ashes into a diamond and somebody should wear it.
Scott Benner (43:16) No one seemed up for that.
Janelle (43:18) I mean, that that sounds sweet.
Scott Benner (43:21) They don't even want the to be like it. (43:23) I'm like, well, what do you like, who's gonna get my ashes? (43:25) They're like, oh, can we spread them somewhere? (43:26) And I was like, you don't want my ashes? (43:28) And they're like, not really.
Scott Benner (43:29) And I was like, oh, okay.
Janelle (43:31) No. (43:31) That's that's fine.
Scott Benner (43:32) I guess that's fine. (43:34) Just you just discard me somewhere after I'm gone. (43:38) Yeah. (43:38) You know what the diamond? (43:39) Doesn't that sound nice?
Scott Benner (43:41) No one thought that was nice. (43:43) It's really upsetting. (43:44) I mean, not that Yeah. (43:45) Yeah. (43:45) Yeah.
Scott Benner (43:46) Yeah. (43:46) You know what I mean? (43:46) Like, because my wife wants to be buried.
Janelle (43:48) Okay.
Scott Benner (43:49) But I don't want that. (43:50) You have a thought? (43:51) Okay. (43:51) What do wanna do with your carcass when when you're done?
Janelle (43:54) I honestly try not to put too much thought into it right now, but maybe I should.
Scott Benner (43:57) Well, I mean, like, seriously, like, either someone's gonna put you in a hole in the ground or they're gonna set you on fire. (44:03) Which which sounds better to you?
Janelle (44:07) Pick of the litter right there. (44:08) I don't know. (44:09) I guess I'd say cremated.
Scott Benner (44:10) I'm with you. (44:11) Yeah. (44:12) Yeah. (44:12) Right? (44:12) Because you're gonna end up in dust anyway.
Janelle (44:16) Yeah.
Scott Benner (44:16) I I don't wanna I don't wanna rot slowly.
Janelle (44:20) Yeah. (44:20) You could always get turned into a tree.
Scott Benner (44:23) Alright. (44:23) I mean, I do. (44:24) Oh oh, yeah. (44:25) They they do the thing and then they plant the tree with you in the bowl. (44:28) I don't know.
Scott Benner (44:29) You know you know, I'm okay with that, I guess. (44:32) I don't wanna pay for it. (44:33) Even dead, I'm cheap. (44:35) I'm like, I don't wanna put that kind of money out for that.
Janelle (44:37) I can't afford that.
Scott Benner (44:38) Yeah. (44:39) No. (44:39) We can't be that's actually what I thought. (44:40) I was like, that sounds pricey. (44:43) Do I care?
Scott Benner (44:44) I'm gonna be dead. (44:45) Sorry.
Janelle (44:45) A bit out of the budget. (44:46) Yeah.
Scott Benner (44:46) Yeah. (44:47) Like, why do I care? (44:48) I was like, right now, was like, oh, I don't know. (44:50) I mean, what's that cost? (44:51) Jesus.
Scott Benner (44:53) You should look into my thoughts. (44:55) I'm like, oh my god. (44:56) Yeah. (44:57) Yeah. (44:57) I think we I don't ask that question enough on the podcast.
Scott Benner (45:00) I do I've like, buried her. (45:02) Because, like, at some point, you know, I don't know how I don't exactly like, let me be clear. (45:08) Like, most things in the podcast, I don't really understand a lot of the details of it. (45:11) But, like, at some point, like, you're gonna be rotting.
Janelle (45:15) Yeah.
Scott Benner (45:16) The meat's gonna be gone, and the skin will just be hanging on like crepe paper. (45:20) Ugh. (45:21) And you're just gonna be under there. (45:23) And then one day, two hundred years from now, they're gonna need that land for something else and just push into a pile somewhere. (45:29) Like, I just think the the cremation's the way to go.
Janelle (45:31) I mean, yeah. (45:32) I think, honestly, instead of introduce yourself, that should be your opening question on the podcast is buried or cremated.
Scott Benner (45:37) Instead of what autoimmune issues are in your family? (45:42) Although, we should add the Viking funeral to it though.
Janelle (45:45) Yes. (45:46) Right? (45:46) That's a valid option.
Scott Benner (45:47) The on top of, like, firewood doused in gasoline pushed out the sea on fire? (45:52) Yeah. (45:53) Yeah. (45:53) Maybe I'd like that. (45:55) That'd be nice.
Scott Benner (45:55) Put some fireworks in the background.
Janelle (45:57) Yeah.
Scott Benner (45:58) Right? (45:58) And I don't need it videoed. (46:00) I I'm not one of those people. (46:01) I don't want everything on video. (46:05) I was saying the other day, like, I don't understand some of the things y'all take pictures of.
Scott Benner (46:10) Oh
Janelle (46:11) my god.
Scott Benner (46:11) I was like, here's a picture of me in the hospital. (46:13) I'm like, why? (46:17) I you look terrible, first of all. (46:19) Secondly, like, this is not a great moment in your life. (46:22) Like, what are you snapping?
Scott Benner (46:23) And I I even see having the pictures later as maybe being valued. (46:26) But in the moment, like, I don't get a person who's like, oh, let me get my camera out right now. (46:30) Yeah. (46:30) I don't remember to do that when I'm supposed to.
Janelle (46:33) Yeah. (46:34) I agree with that.
Scott Benner (46:35) I'm glad. (46:35) I like you. (46:37) If your parents died prematurely, I would adopt you. (46:40) So Perfect. (46:41) Yeah.
Scott Benner (46:41) Yeah. (46:41) Yeah. (46:42) I'm not gonna pay for anything. (46:43) As you heard with the with the tree thing, it's like, my god. (46:46) Yeah.
Scott Benner (46:46) I'd the worst dad. (46:47) You'd be like, can I get $50 to plant? (46:49) I'll be like, no. (46:50) Don't I can't do that.
Janelle (46:51) No. (46:51) Sorry. (46:51) Can't swing it.
Scott Benner (46:52) Go ask that boy that married you. (46:55) See see what he's got going on.
Janelle (46:57) Yeah.
Scott Benner (46:58) Alright. (46:58) So we gotta get back on track here. (47:00) Really, the squishy pushy really threw me off today. (47:02) You're never I really gonna can't even you know what? (47:06) Rob, I'm gonna say why squishy pushy push me off and then bleep the whole thing out so that nobody can hear it.
Scott Benner (47:12) Okay? (47:13) No. (47:13) There'll be too much bleeping. (47:15) No. (47:16) You're just gonna have to go listen to it.
Scott Benner (47:17) I'm sorry. (47:17) I was trying to make it fun for you guys who are listening to this one, but I can't. (47:20) Just let's just say that Brenda said something that stopped me in my tracks. (47:26) You'll know
Janelle (47:28) it when you hear
Scott Benner (47:28) it.
Speaker 3 (47:28) You will. (47:29) Yeah. (47:29) If you don't,
Scott Benner (47:29) you're not paying attention. (47:30) That's for sure. (47:32) My god. (47:32) Alright. (47:33) So how is this gonna help you break out of your norms?
Scott Benner (47:36) Like, what is it you're hoping to like, on this little journey of yours, where are trying to get to? (47:47) This episode was too good to cut anything out of, but too long to make just one episode. (47:52) So this is part one. (47:53) Make sure you go find part two right now. (47:55) It's gonna be the next episode in your feed.
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Scott Benner (50:13) Check out the walkthrough video at juice box podcast dot com slash juice cruise. (50:18) The ship is awesome. (50:19) Still a seven night cruise. (50:21) It still leaves out of Miami on June 21. (50:24) Actually, most of this is the same.
Scott Benner (50:26) We leave Miami June 21, head to Coco Cay in The Bahamas, but then we're going to San Juan, Puerto Rico instead of Saint Thomas. (50:34) After that, Bastirie, I think I'm saying that wrong, Saint Kitts And Nevis. (50:38) This place is gorgeous. (50:39) Google it. (50:40) Mean, you're probably gonna have to go to my link to get the correct spelling because my pronunciation is so bad.
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