#1749 Half Nelson to Full Health
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Scott talks with Connor about growing up with type 1 diabetes, wrestling through college, becoming a police officer, losing weight, and learning to manage blood sugar through experience, not guesswork.
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Scott Benner (0:0) Here we are back together again, friends, for another episode of the Juice Box podcast. (0:14) I'll be speaking with Connor today. (0:16) He has type one diabetes, but he's also a police officer. (0:20) And at the end of the episode, he tells a number of stories about, you know, being a cop. (0:25) I've put them in a bonus episode.
Scott Benner (0:27) So when you get to the end of this, it's gonna say, you know, Connor's stories of being a police officer are continued in the next episode. (0:34) That's how I'm gonna do it. (0:35) So if you wanna hear that, go check out the bonus episode. (0:38) I think it's about fifteen minutes long. (0:39) Just some stories of his of his career.
Scott Benner (0:41) And if you don't care about that, I guess you can just go to the next episode after that. (0:49) Nothing you hear on the juice box podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. (0:54) Always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan. (0:59) Hey. (0:59) Do you need support?
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Connor (2:59) Hello. (2:59) I'm Connor. (3:00) I have been type one diabetic for the last eighteen years, and I'm excited to share my journey of type one diabetes with you guys.
Scott Benner (3:10) Connor, good morning. (3:11) I appreciate you doing this with me very much. (3:14) Eighteen years, how old were you when you were diagnosed?
Connor (3:17) I was sorry. (3:19) 14 years old. (3:21) I was in middle school.
Scott Benner (3:22) Wow. (3:23) So hold on. (3:23) Watch this. (3:25) So you're 32 now?
Connor (3:27) 33. (3:27) Sorry to just map that up.
Scott Benner (3:29) Sorry. (3:30) Well, whatever. (3:31) What a what a bummer way to start. (3:33) Wait. (3:34) Wait.
Scott Benner (3:34) Is 14 and 18 not 32? (3:36) Well but but it happened, like, towards the end of the year or something like that? (3:41) That's fine.
Connor (3:41) Yeah.
Scott Benner (3:42) Alright. (3:42) Hey. (3:42) Hey. (3:42) That's not my fault. (3:43) Okay.
Scott Benner (3:44) Good. (3:45) Boom. (3:46) 14 years old. (3:47) 18
Connor (3:48) Or no. (3:48) No. (3:48) No. (3:48) I was 15. (3:49) Sorry.
Connor (3:49) I was 15.
Scott Benner (3:50) You son of a bitch. (3:51) Okay. (3:52) No. (3:52) I'm just kidding. (3:52) Alright.
Scott Benner (3:53) So you're 15 years old. (3:55) Yes. (3:55) Awesome. (3:56) So what's that? (3:57) 2010?
Scott Benner (3:58) No. (3:59) 2007.
Connor (4:00) No. (4:01) Yeah. (4:01) Yeah.
Scott Benner (4:01) Yeah. (4:02) Yeah. (4:02) So I was in middle school. (4:03) It was
Connor (4:05) spring break. (4:07) So I guess I can go into the story now.
Scott Benner (4:09) I'd love to.
Connor (4:10) Yeah. (4:10) So every spring break as a kid, I have two brothers. (4:16) I have an identical twin, and then I have another brother. (4:20) My dad would always take us up to the lake, and we live in we live in Northern Indiana. (4:26) Mhmm.
Connor (4:26) And we go up to the lake, and we just, you know, put the boat in and put the jet ski in, get the dock and everything put into the lake. (4:34) And we stay in this small little lake cottage that my uncle owned. (4:39) And we're also we're a big wrestling family, so we wrestled every weekend. (4:47) But, anyways so we're up at the lake, and I remember I'm sitting on the couch at the lake cottage, and I'm trying to read the clock.
Scott Benner (4:57) And normally, I just look at the oven, and
Connor (4:59) I can read I can read the clock fine. (5:01) And then looking at it, I'm like, wow. (5:03) My eyes are, like, going bad. (5:04) I'm I need to get glasses. (5:06) So I thought that was kinda weird.
Connor (5:08) And then, you know, throughout the week, I was so my dad worked at Pepsi, so we always had the fridge loaded with, you know, like, Mountain Dew, root beer, all that good stuff. (5:22) And I was just drinking so much of it, and then I was peeing all the time. (5:28) And we we had two small little bedrooms in the lake cottage, and one was, you know, just a king-size bed where normally my dad and my mom slept. (5:37) And then the the other one, we had two sets of bunk beds where me and my brothers and my cousins would sleep. (5:43) And I I literally would get up in the middle of night.
Connor (5:46) It seemed like every half hour to go pee. (5:49) And finally, I got so tired of it that I just I slept in bed with a milk jug just so
Scott Benner (5:54) I Really?
Connor (5:55) Yeah. (5:56) It's just so I I didn't have to get up and go pee all the time. (6:00) And and the the so, my dad, you know, during that week, we got to eat like, I remember going to Buffalo Wild Wings and just stuffing my face, and we go to pizza, and I'd stuff my face. (6:13) And I still had to go make weight the next weekend for whatever wrestling tournament we're going to. (6:19) And I remember checking my weight, and, like, I was underweight.
Connor (6:25) And I was like, wow. (6:26) This is crazy. (6:27) Like, I'm eating so much food, and I don't even have to worry about my weight. (6:31) It's this is kinda awesome. (6:32) But I I I wasn't I wasn't feeling the best, but I don't think I wasn't in DKA yet.
Connor (6:43) Yeah. (6:44) So we go to the wrestling tournament after well, we're still on spring break, and I'm feeling terrible. (6:51) I lose to everyone, but I wrestled my twin brother, and I still beat him even though I was I I was feeling terrible at the time.
Scott Benner (6:58) I like how earlier you said I have a brother a twin brother and another one. (7:03) I was like, oh, I that must help be how it feels for him. (7:06) He's he's the he's the other one.
Connor (7:08) He's the other one, but he's a I mean, we're we're all we all did pretty yeah. (7:14) We're all very close.
Scott Benner (7:15) Nice.
Connor (7:16) We all did very well in wrestling, but
Scott Benner (7:18) the other Hey. (7:19) Did ever miss the milk jug when you were painting it?
Connor (7:26) I don't I don't think so.
Scott Benner (7:29) Can I share a story? (7:30) I've never said on here. (7:31) It's been eleven years and, you know, every once in a while something pops into my head and I think, oh, I've never said this.
Connor (7:36) Yeah. (7:36) Go for it.
Scott Benner (7:37) I grew up boy, this is gonna be something. (7:39) My parents rented a house from a local church. (7:43) It's a I always think of it as, like, I grew up in a three story home, but it was rented. (7:48) And I didn't realize it when I was younger, but I know now that it was, you know, it was the church being nice to my broke ass family. (7:54) Right?
Scott Benner (7:55) And and running us this this house for, like, next to nothing. (7:59) And I lived in the 3rd Floor, which was really a converted attic. (8:04) But, you know, you had to because it was a converted attic, you entered it through my parents' bedroom. (8:09) So you'd go into my parents' bedroom into their closet, and then inside their closet was stairs that led upstairs to my bedroom. (8:16) And so I one night, I woke up and I was like, I just had to pee so bad.
Scott Benner (8:22) And I didn't I just didn't wanna go down through my parents' bedroom and then onto the hall and the whole thing. (8:28) And I I am here to tell you with with absolute shame, Connor, that I peed out the window. (8:36) And then I realized how handy that was, and I may have done that a couple of times. (8:42) So Yeah. (8:43) Anyway, I feel bad saying it out loud now.
Connor (8:46) Well, it's probably something that's maybe more common. (8:50) Well, I don't know. (8:51) I guess Look. (8:52) I'm not sure.
Scott Benner (8:52) Can I say something in my defense? (8:54) Yes. (8:56) The house was so old, and this is important to me, it did not have screens. (9:02) So you just when you opened the window, there was no straining that went on and no and and very low ability to get other things other than what you wanted.
Connor (9:13) Well, that's good.
Scott Benner (9:14) Yeah. (9:15) Yeah. (9:15) Yeah. (9:15) Does it sound like I'm no. (9:17) I don't wanna say that on the podcast.
Scott Benner (9:18) Never mind. (9:19) We'll stop now. (9:20) Okay. (9:21) So you're at the you're at the lake house. (9:23) You've just beat your brother in wrestling, and what happened next?
Connor (9:26) Yep. (9:27) So then I'm guessing that I think that was probably on a Saturday, the wrestling tournament was. (9:31) And then I'm starting to feel really, really bad. (9:35) Like, I don't I don't know. (9:37) Like, I'm sick.
Connor (9:38) I can't get out of bed. (9:39) We're and now we're back home at just our my parents' house. (9:45) Mhmm. (9:46) And my my family's going to church and I'm sick. (9:49) Like, I can't get up and move.
Connor (9:51) So my grandma comes over to watch me. (9:53) And then when my parents get home, she's like, I think he he might have diabetes, which I have no clue how she would know that.
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Connor (12:07) Because no one in any either my mom's side or my dad's side, has any auto well, my my, my mom's mom had a type two diabetes.
Scott Benner (12:19) Okay.
Connor (12:19) But that note, we
Scott Benner (12:20) That's not and that's not autoimmune. (12:22) Hey. (12:23) Maybe she learned it on Merv Griffin.
Connor (12:25) I don't know what Merv Griffin is.
Scott Benner (12:27) I know. (12:27) Might be I know you don't because you're young, but my grandmother would have called him Merv Griffith. (12:31) Just wanted to say that. (12:33) He was, like, probably the one of the OG talk show hosts, like, talk show hosts a long ass time ago.
Connor (12:39) Yeah. (12:40) That I mean
Scott Benner (12:41) You really don't know who Merv Griffin is. (12:42) No. (12:43) You ever watched Wheel of Fortune?
Connor (12:45) Absolutely.
Scott Benner (12:46) Came out of his brain. (12:47) He thought it up.
Connor (12:48) Oh, really?
Scott Benner (12:49) That's right. (12:49) It's it's a good show. (12:50) Yeah. (12:50) Alright. (12:51) Never mind.
Scott Benner (12:51) We can keep keep going. (12:52) Your grandmom, like, sniffs out die no pun intended, sniffs out diabetes, like, simply. (12:56) Does anybody listen to her?
Connor (12:58) Yeah. (12:59) So, my mom I remember for whatever reason, I was sleeping in my brother's room. (13:06) I don't I don't remember why. (13:07) But my mom loads me I'm feeling terrible. (13:10) My mom loads me up in the car, and we go to the local hospital, which, I mean, this it's not a very small city, so it's it's a decent sized hospital.
Connor (13:20) Yeah. (13:21) And I I remember, like, I I can like, I'm not functional. (13:25) I'm in full blown DKA and takes me to the hospital. (13:29) And I don't really remember a whole lot from getting to the hospital except that that I didn't even do inpatient stuff. (13:39) Like, they I I don't remember because I was 15 and I I but I do remember them, like, teaching me how to give shots and all that stuff.
Connor (13:47) But they did whatever I think they did a finger test, and I was HI high on the the glucose meter, so I didn't even read how high it was. (13:59) And then I remember they sent me home that night, and they told my mom they were gonna do another blood test the next morning and that I was supposed to eat food with not a lot of sugar. (14:11) And I remember my mom being like, I don't know what what foods you should like, what foods have a lot of sugar and what don't. (14:20) And so oops. (14:21) Sorry.
Connor (14:22) My phone is going on.
Scott Benner (14:24) Yeah. (14:24) You're fine. (14:24) Don't worry. (14:25) I can't hear it. (14:25) But you, you know, please go and do what you need to do.
Scott Benner (14:28) I'm just While you're doing that, let me tell you something. (14:31) Not only did Merv Griffin dream up Wheel of Fortune, he made Jeopardy too. (14:37) He also he also made the theme song for Jeopardy.
Connor (14:41) So this guy is, a really
Scott Benner (14:43) smart guy. (14:44) I mean, listen. (14:44) If back the man was born in 1925. (14:47) He was famous before, you know, when television had, you know, no color and and into that time. (14:52) I mean, he was just a white guy in the right place at the right time.
Scott Benner (14:54) But, like, you know, he was also like, he wrote this actually, the the the Jeopardy theme song has a name. (15:00) It's called A Time for Tony. (15:02) He wrote it as a lullaby for his son. (15:04) And later, it he's he's earned tens of millions of dollars off it and royalties from it being the the the Jeopardy theme song. (15:12) Boy, we're in the wrong business, Connor.
Scott Benner (15:13) Don't know what you do for a living, but we should be writing theme songs to game shows.
Connor (15:17) Yeah. (15:18) No kidding.
Scott Benner (15:18) What about that? (15:19) That's crazy. (15:20) Okay. (15:20) Anyway, what does Merv mean? (15:22) Before we get back to your thing, is Merv his real name?
Scott Benner (15:25) I mean, I'm not asking you, obviously. (15:27) I'm asking I'm asking the computer. (15:30) You didn't know who he is and still don't, by the way. (15:33) But that's not exactly Merv is short for his real name, Mervyn, m e r v y n. (15:39) Mervyn Edward Griffin junior.
Scott Benner (15:41) Merv. (15:42) All I know is, man, he sat behind the desk, talked to, like, famous people back before it was a thing. (15:47) It was in the afternoon, and, my grandmother watched it every day. (15:51) So
Connor (15:51) Oh, my grandma probably watched it every day too, and he's probably the reason that
Scott Benner (15:56) Let's just give Merv Griffin the credit, okay, for you Absolutely. (15:59) Getting diagnosed. (16:01) Is your grandmom alive?
Connor (16:03) The yeah. (16:04) The one that thought I had diabetes is alive. (16:06) Yes.
Scott Benner (16:06) Let's boy, is she do me a favor. (16:10) Next time you talk to her, ask her how she knew. (16:13) See if she remembers, and send me send me a note. (16:16) I'd be super interested. (16:16) But that the rest of you listening, you'll you'll never know, so screw you.
Scott Benner (16:19) But I I'll I'll get to know. (16:21) Yeah.
Connor (16:21) I'll see her at family Christmas. (16:22) So
Scott Benner (16:22) Very nice. (16:23) Very nice. (16:24) Okay. (16:24) I'm sorry. (16:25) Continue on.
Connor (16:26) Yeah. (16:27) So, they they basically sent sent us home, and they were like, don't eat a lot of sugar or don't eat a lot of foods with sugar, and then come back, and we'll do, like, the a real blood test or whatever the next morning. (16:40) And so we had no clue what to eat. (16:43) So I remember my mom took us to Sonic, and we're just, like, loading up on, like, burritos and stuff. (16:49) And then we go and do the test, and, I can't find the results anywhere for those tests.
Connor (16:56) But, anyways, we did out outpatient. (17:00) Just they just taught me about type one diabetes, and, I remember going home. (17:07) And for the next week, my blood sugar would not go under 250. (17:12) And my mom was so mad. (17:14) She's like, his blood sugar is so high.
Connor (17:16) We can't get it under control, and that the the doctors and whoever it was was in that was in charge of doing all that stuff, they they weren't really helping out. (17:26) I I guess I don't really know.
Scott Benner (17:28) Well, also, I mean, based on what your mom took you to eat when she was told to avoid sugar, she didn't really understand carbs either. (17:34) Right?
Connor (17:35) No. (17:35) No. (17:35) Absolutely not.
Scott Benner (17:36) You know, I just interviewed a lady yesterday who works for the Daphne organization. (17:41) It's which is a it's a nonprofit in England that teaches people about their diabetes. (17:46) It's really kinda wonderful. (17:47) And when she was talking, she said, like, big part of what they do is still to teach people what carbs are. (17:54) And I'm saying
Connor (17:55) If they would've just said carbs instead of sugars, it would've made a little bit easier at least for that one day.
Scott Benner (18:01) Yeah. (18:02) Who knows? (18:02) Okay. (18:03) So your mom couldn't get your blood sugar down. (18:04) And what what happened after that?
Scott Benner (18:06) I'm sorry.
Connor (18:06) Yeah. (18:07) So we spent a week, doing just what the hospital in Northeast, Indiana was telling us to do. (18:15) And finally, my mom just got so fed up and called down to the children's hospital down in Indianapolis and was like, hey. (18:25) My son just got diagnosed. (18:27) We're having a bunch of issues, and they were like, oh, yeah.
Connor (18:31) Come down here. (18:32) They admitted me for, I think, was three or four nights. (18:36) Both my parents went down there, and they, they taught me a lot more than the other hospital did, and we got everything under control. (18:46) And, yeah, we started MDI from there. (18:49) So I was on, it was either NovoLog or Humalog.
Connor (18:52) I don't remember which one of those. (18:54) And Atlantis. (18:55) Yeah. (18:55) So I was on Penns and started the journey from there. (19:00) And I I I remember I remember not I I hadn't had a low in such well, I never had a low prior to then because my blood sugar is always two fifty the prior week.
Connor (19:14) But I remember just wondering what it was gonna feel like to be low. (19:18) And one night before I was going to bed, I was up there brushing my teeth. (19:21) I was like, I feel really weird. (19:23) And I go down there. (19:24) I'm like, mom, I'm feeling weird.
Connor (19:25) And, she would check my blood sugar, and I was, I don't know, probably in the sixties. (19:31) And she she pulls out this big, like, gallon sized bag of Skittles, and she's like, Connor, start eating. (19:37) I was like, yes. (19:38) Because I had to be on such a strict thing to make sure that my basal rates and everything were together. (19:44) So I just start stuffing my face with skills, and I remember I like that.
Scott Benner (19:47) Yeah. (19:47) No kidding. (19:48) You were basal testing for a week probably, and you were just like, ah, finally. (19:52) Yes. (19:53) So then, I mean, you're 15 years old then.
Scott Benner (19:55) You have a couple more years of high school. (19:57) You're wrestling through high school, and you I know this, but everybody listening doesn't know you. (20:02) You wrestled in college as well. (20:03) Right? (20:04) Yes.
Scott Benner (20:04) How did you manage all that?
Connor (20:07) Yeah. (20:08) So it was, man, it was tough because I don't know when CGMs first became popular, but I I hated, like I I got on a so I got on a insulin pump. (20:26) It was actually January 1 is the day the first day I had an insulin pump. (20:34) So a little under a year of being diagnosed, I got an insulin pump. (20:39) And I didn't want it at first because I didn't wanna have the the just the site and everything.
Connor (20:44) Like, I I just wasn't a fan of it, and I didn't want people to know I had diabetes. (20:48) Like, I I don't know. (20:50) Okay. (20:50) I just didn't want it. (20:51) And then so but, eventually, my parents talked me into getting the insulin pump.
Connor (20:56) So that was nice because, you know, before wrestling practice, I could suspend my insulin, so I didn't have all the basal insulin going into practice just driving my blood sugar down and then just eating, like, snacks or something before practice. (21:11) This is how I started off in high school. (21:14) And and just checking my blood sugar all the time, like, man, it was it was constant. (21:22) Like, every every, like, half hour, you know, I'd be at least checking my blood sugar, making sure that it was going, you know, staying in range or starting to go up and not going down because I could handle, you know, a little high blood sugar. (21:41) But, you know, if you go low, like
Scott Benner (21:44) It's it's it's different. (21:46) Right?
Connor (21:46) Yeah. (21:47) And especially in the sport of wrestling where, like, you have to be so explosive and and all the different positions that you're in. (21:54) Like, you go low, you're you're you're gonna be you're gonna be hurting.
Scott Benner (21:58) Yeah.
Connor (21:58) So, yeah, I got through high school and actually so this is the interesting part. (22:04) My freshman year in high school, I broke my thumb, and I they told me I was gonna be out the whole season, but I ended up getting it healed, ready for, like, the postseason. (22:18) So we have sectionals, regional, semi state, and state. (22:21) Those are the that's the postseason for wrestling in Indiana. (22:25) And, so I get cleared to wrestle, like, a day or two before the sectional tournament.
Connor (22:33) And I was a little overweight, but going into practice on Friday, which is the day before the sectional tournament, I was, like, a pound overweight, which wasn't a big deal at all because normally you go to sleep and you wake up and you're a pound lighter. (22:47) So I'm going into practice, and my blood sugar is just not cooperating. (22:52) It's going low, going low, going low. (22:54) And I drink a Gatorade and gain however much weight just from drinking the liquid, and my body was already dehydrated just because I I I probably wasn't eating very healthy. (23:07) And Yeah.
Connor (23:08) Yeah, I worked out so much, and I I could not make weight. (23:13) So I missed weight my freshman year because my blood sugar went low, I had to overcorrect. (23:17) So that wasn't fun.
Scott Benner (23:19) That easy. (23:19) It was that easy to for that to get messed up.
Connor (23:22) Yeah. (23:23) Yeah. (23:24) Yes.
Scott Benner (23:25) And there's no, I don't know what the word would be, but but no no way they could just say, alright. (23:31) Well, I mean, you have diabetes, but we, you know, we can't ask him to drop dead because he doesn't wanna change his weight. (23:38) That there's no consideration for that whatsoever?
Connor (23:41) No. (23:42) I mean, there there was already someone up at the next weight class, and I would have had to wrestle them off. (23:47) And it was actually might have been my brother or something. (23:50) Who knows? (23:50) I don't remember.
Scott Benner (23:51) I
Connor (23:51) see. (23:53) Yeah. (23:53) So I miss weight, and the backup had to had to, make weight and wrestle. (24:00) So that sucked for me. (24:01) It sucked for my team, but I learned to not do that again.
Connor (24:07) Well, at least I learned how to control my blood sugar a little bit more. (24:11) But on top of that, like, my parents, they they were so on top of, like, my blood sugar as well. (24:19) Like, my mom, she would stay up late and check my blood come in and check my blood sugar while I was sleeping. (24:25) And then my dad, he always went to work early at, like, two or three in the morning. (24:28) Mhmm.
Connor (24:28) And he I remember him opening up my door and walk him in there and checking my blood sugar and he and making sure I was, in range. (24:40) And if I wasn't, give me a shot or
Scott Benner (24:41) or Connor, did your did your dad have COPD? (24:43) What was going on there?
Connor (24:45) No. (24:45) It's I don't know. (24:46) It's just how I picture it.
Scott Benner (24:48) You just met you remember him kinda huffing and puffing?
Connor (24:50) Yeah.
Scott Benner (24:51) Just It's interesting.
Connor (24:52) He doesn't have any I I don't know.
Scott Benner (24:54) That's just No. (24:55) It's just interesting the way you like like, your remembrance of it is interesting.
Connor (24:59) Yeah. (25:00) Yeah. (25:00) So, yeah, my my parents would always come in and be checking my blood sugar, making sure I was in range or if I was high or low, they would, you know
Scott Benner (25:11) Do do what was appropriate.
Connor (25:13) Yeah. (25:13) And I remember one time it was my senior in high school after whatever wrestling match it was, my mom comes in to check my blood sugar, and I must have been dreaming or something. (25:25) And she said she she, like, pricked my finger. (25:28) And, like, I started, like, trying to wrestle her or something when we were in bed.
Scott Benner (25:33) Did she wake up? (25:34) Did you have her in a full Nelson when you woke up? (25:36) Or
Connor (25:36) Yeah. (25:36) I I don't remember. (25:38) I had her in something, though. (25:40) And
Scott Benner (25:41) That's a real wrestling move. (25:42) Right? (25:42) It's not a thing I learned from the WWF, is it?
Connor (25:44) Yes. (25:44) Full Nelson is an illegal move in wrestling. (25:47) A half Nelson is legal.
Scott Benner (25:49) A half Nelson's legal. (25:50) Okay.
Connor (25:51) Yeah. (25:51) Yeah. (25:52) So yeah. (25:54) Just a lots of blood sugar checking. (25:56) This is in high school, and I had no CGM.
Connor (25:59) So all all I did was finger pricks. (26:02) So then I move on to college, and this is when, like, I really
Scott Benner (26:09) especially Is this when the shit went off the rails? (26:11) Is that what you're about to say? (26:13) Well, I I
Connor (26:17) my my first three years in college, I I did not eat the healthiest. (26:23) I, you know, I pretty much ate whatever I wanted. (26:26) And, you know, I took my my blood sugars were fine, but, like, you know, for someone who's an athlete who wants to perform at the highest level, you should probably be eating healthier and not, like, going to the the dining courts and eating basically making your own McFlurries and
Scott Benner (26:45) and eating
Connor (26:46) bunch of pizza and stuff every night.
Scott Benner (26:48) Did you stop can I ask, did you stop caring about wrestling, or was it just like was it the freedom? (26:53) Do you think it had anything to do with restrictions from diabetes? (26:57) Or, like, what why do you think you shifted like that so drastically?
Connor (27:02) Well, I mean, I guess it kinda was the freedom. (27:05) I mean, I we always at our our household, we always just kinda ate what whatever we wanted, like
Scott Benner (27:14) Mhmm.
Connor (27:14) Just as kids. (27:16) And we we were always so active that, like, we're always pretty fit. (27:21) And so I moved on to college, and, you know, you got the ice cream machines, you got the buffets at the dining courts and stuff. (27:29) And I was just like, you know, you get out of wrestling practice, and you're just you're tired and you're hungry. (27:35) And I'm like, man, you know, it sounds good.
Connor (27:37) A bunch of ice cream with Oreos and M and M's in it. (27:40) And then, you know, the one thing I I stopped drinking, so all I drank was water, though. (27:47) So my first three years in college, I I ate like crap, and, you know, I covered it with insulin. (27:55) And I was I was able to control my blood sugar. (27:58) I was always under a seven a one c.
Connor (28:01) Mhmm. (28:01) But my senior in college is like so my senior year in college was my little brother, you know, the other one. (28:11) He was an an a national champion. (28:14) So we all wrestled at a small division three NCAA school Mhmm. (28:19) In Indiana.
Connor (28:20) And my junior year my twenty ninth junior year, my my little brother's freshman year, he wins the national championship, first year there. (28:30) And that was really eye opening. (28:31) We're like, wow, man. (28:32) That was so cool. (28:33) And I was like, I need to lock in and do whatever I can to to do that because I don't wanna I don't wanna be sitting in the stands watching my brother do that.
Connor (28:45) I wanna be out there with him. (28:46) Right. (28:46) So I locked in and, you know, my diet, I had every this is literally what I ate every day. (28:54) I wake up in the morning, and I would have a huge bowl of oatmeal. (28:59) I'd throw a bunch of peanut butter in there, and I'd make, six eggs.
Connor (29:04) And I would eat that every single meal. (29:06) So I ate 18 eggs a day and, like, three humongous bowls of oatmeal, and then, I had that every day. (29:13) So, you know, eating the same thing for every meal, I learned how my body was gonna react to it, and I knew how much the, like, you know, the exact amount of insulin that I need to take. (29:24) So, you know, I don't know if it was, like, the healthiest thing in the world to be eating, but at least I I could lock in my blood sugars. (29:32) And I'm sure it was healthier than, you know, going to the food court and eating ice cream and whatnot.
Connor (29:37) So that's what I would would
Scott Benner (29:40) So you did this, Conor, just to catch up to your brother? (29:44) Like, like, did you make that shift? (29:47) Because you're like that he can't be the only one to win this or no?
Connor (29:51) Well, I mean, I was, like, I was a national qualifier that year. (29:57) My twin was an all American, and then, yeah, my little brother was a national champion. (30:03) And I man, like, I just knew, like, my my little brother worked so hard at everything, and and we always did the same stuff. (30:11) But, like, you know, there's just, like, the little things. (30:16) It's just the little things, that, you know, get you up over the top.
Connor (30:20) And I was like, if I start eating healthier, I think that'll help. (30:25) And then just my mindset at practice too. (30:27) Like, you get tired and, like, you you gotta not break mentally. (30:32) You gotta be so mentally tough too, you know, in certain, you know, wrestling positions. (30:37) Like, you know, if I take someone down on the wrestling mat, I can lay lay on top of them for the rest of the the live go and practice and and, you know, just kinda relax.
Connor (30:47) Or I can work hard and try to turn them and pin them and and score more points. (30:51) Or if I'm on bottom, you know, I can I could just relax and and wait until it goes over, or I can, you know, have a mindset that I need to get up? (31:01) Like, nothing is gonna stop me. (31:03) And so, like, my my mindset changed a little bit because that's how my little brother's mindset was. (31:09) I had to I had to have that same mindset and, you know, it eventually, you know, it worked out.
Connor (31:14) And on top of everything, changing my diet, it it allowed my weight to to I I I made weight so much easier. (31:24) Like, I wrestled a 174 my senior year in college, and I had to have been the smallest guy at the national tournament. (31:33) Like, I remember, normally, people are cutting weight. (31:36) Like, I would imagine, like, 10 pounds or or something like that. (31:41) Five to 10 pounds, like, in a in a wrestling practice, a two hour wrestling practice.
Connor (31:45) Like, if you have a good practice, like, just wearing t shirt and shorts, you can lose, like, nine pounds just sweating really much. (31:52) Jeez.
Scott Benner (31:52) That's crazy. (31:53) Although my my son goes out and plays basketball, and he's fascinated by he weighs himself before he leaves, and he weighs himself when he comes back. (31:59) And he's like, I I lose, like, five pounds playing basketball.
Connor (32:02) Yeah. (32:02) Yeah. (32:03) Is there anything anything physical when you're sweating and stuff?
Scott Benner (32:06) Yeah.
Connor (32:06) And and, like, a lot of times they crank the heat up in the wrestling room and stuff like that. (32:11) Yeah. (32:12) You'll sweat a lot.
Scott Benner (32:12) Hey. (32:13) Do you have a cauliflower ear?
Connor (32:15) Yes. (32:16) I do in both ears.
Scott Benner (32:17) In both ears. (32:18) Also, this has fascinated me since you mentioned it, but at today's prices, you were eating over $200 worth of eggs every month.
Connor (32:26) Yeah. (32:26) So my mom my mom would buy, like she would come down to to the rental house that we had, and she'd have those humongous cartons of eggs and just we'd fill our fridge with them.
Scott Benner (32:39) Oh my god.
Connor (32:40) And then she'd buy, like, the huge big boxes from Sam's Club of
Scott Benner (32:44) Yeah.
Connor (32:45) Oatmeal. (32:45) And, yeah, my brothers my brother and I, like, we just
Scott Benner (32:48) Went after it.
Connor (32:49) We went after it and we ate a lot of eggs.
Scott Benner (32:52) A lot of eggs and a lot of oatmeal.
Connor (32:54) Lot of eggs and oatmeal. (32:56) And
Scott Benner (32:56) yeah. (32:57) Just I just found myself thinking about today's, like, prices. (33:00) And I was like, because I saw I bought eggs the other day, and I my options in the grocery store were somewhere between, like, dollars and 50¢ and, like, up to $7. (33:12) Like, I don't know why one egg cost twice as much as another egg. (33:15) I mean, it, like, says free range, and the package looks nicer.
Scott Benner (33:18) But other than that, I'm not sure. (33:20) And I just thought, oh my god. (33:22) You guys must have been going broke. (33:23) So it wasn't just you eating the eggs. (33:24) It was your brother's.
Connor (33:25) Yeah. (33:26) Oh, yeah. (33:26) I mean, my brother and I, we did the exact my twin and I, like, we always did the exact same thing. (33:31) Yeah. (33:32) We are literally twins in pretty much every way.
Scott Benner (33:35) Your parents should have bought eggs or or bought chickens. (33:38) I think that would have been quicker maybe.
Connor (33:40) Probably. (33:40) Yeah.
Scott Benner (33:40) No kidding. (33:41) So what'd do in college? (33:42) What did you, study besides wrestling?
Connor (33:45) So started started off at a school in Northeast Indiana. (33:52) My brother and I both did. (33:54) And we started off we were like, oh, my mom's an accountant. (33:58) We wanna be CPA. (33:59) So we started off with accounting, and then that school didn't really work out.
Connor (34:05) So then we transferred to another school in Midwestern Indiana. (34:10) And it's a liberal arts school, so they don't have, like, the the regular, degrees.
Scott Benner (34:19) You can't you can't learn math there. (34:21) They they teach they teach you about poetry. (34:22) Is that right?
Connor (34:24) Yeah.
Scott Benner (34:24) So I didn't know what what I was gonna study. (34:26) I was like, man, I don't
Connor (34:27) know. (34:28) And, I didn't wanna go to school. (34:31) Like, I didn't wanna have to go to school, like, an extra year. (34:35) Like, I wanted to get school done. (34:37) Mhmm.
Connor (34:38) And so my brother and I just ended up picking history because, you know, we're twins, so we picked the same thing.
Scott Benner (34:44) Okay.
Connor (34:44) And so, yeah, I studied history, and that's what ended up I had no clue what I wanted to do after school. (34:57) And when I got diagnosed with diabetes, this is one thing I do remember them telling me is they were like, hey. (35:03) You can't be police officer, firefighter, pilot in the military. (35:07) And I was like, man, because I always wanted to be a fighter pilot. (35:10) I always thought that'd be so cool.
Connor (35:13) So I I didn't know what I wanted to do. (35:15) So then I was like, well, I guess I'll just become an accountant because my mom's an accountant, and she seems to be doing pretty well. (35:22) And yeah. (35:23) So I went to college and studied history and didn't know what I was gonna do with the history degree. (35:30) But
Scott Benner (35:30) Did you enjoy it?
Connor (35:34) I mean
Scott Benner (35:35) That sounds like a no finish this sentence. (35:36) Forescore and.
Connor (35:39) Forscore and?
Scott Benner (35:40) Yeah. (35:40) Finish the finish that sentence. (35:42) Forscore and.
Connor (35:43) Yeah. (35:44) I'm
Scott Benner (35:44) Yeah. (35:45) Oh my god. (35:45) It's it it that's the preamble. (35:47) Like like Yeah. (35:48) Yeah.
Scott Benner (35:48) Yeah. (35:49) You weren't. (35:49) Okay. (35:49) I see. (35:50) Was there at least a pretty girl that was keeping your attention?
Connor (35:53) I went to an all guy school. (35:56) You could so you could literally like, there there were, like, everyone they would have, like, interns or, you know, like, people from other countries that would come in and and, like, teach classes or whatever. (36:09) And sometimes they'd be girls, and you could literally smell them from across campus.
Scott Benner (36:15) Because because everything else just smelled like guys?
Connor (36:18) Yeah. (36:18) You're like, yeah. (36:19) Exactly.
Scott Benner (36:20) I I wanna say I
Connor (36:21) that perfume?
Scott Benner (36:21) I misspoke a second ago, and now I feel silly. (36:24) But, four score and seven years ago is the beginning of Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, not the first not the preamble of the constitution, but damn it. (36:30) I I I was onto something. (36:33) Anyway, so you didn't particularly care for history. (36:38) You cared for getting a degree and keeping wrestling.
Scott Benner (36:41) That's what you were trying to do in college?
Connor (36:43) Yes.
Scott Benner (36:43) Yeah. (36:44) Fair enough? (36:44) Yes. (36:44) Okay. (36:45) The boys school thing is so weird.
Scott Benner (36:47) Like, how did that happen? (36:48) Like, that
Connor (36:48) Yeah. (36:49) Yeah.
Scott Benner (36:49) Yeah. (36:49) Kinda seriously. (36:50) Like, when somebody said go here, you didn't go, but there's no girls there? (36:53) Because that would have been the first thing I thought.
Connor (36:55) No. (36:55) That's exactly what what I thought. (36:57) Okay. (36:58) So, yeah, we went to to the one college at first, my brother and I, and then we're like, okay. (37:03) We need to find a different school.
Connor (37:06) And, you know, the school is the the all guy school. (37:10) We're like, my brother committed, and I was like, dude, like, I don't wanna go to an all guy school because I'm never gonna find a girlfriend. (37:19) I've never like, I I I wanna get married someday. (37:23) And I I you know, how am I gonna find a girlfriend if I go to an all guy school? (37:27) But, eventually, talk me into it.
Connor (37:30) So, yeah, I don't it all worked out in the end.
Scott Benner (37:33) Yeah. (37:34) It's a
Connor (37:34) great school.
Scott Benner (37:35) Where'd you find the girl?
Connor (37:37) At Tinder. (37:37) My brother and I both met our wives on Tinder, my twin and I.
Scott Benner (37:41) No kidding.
Connor (37:42) You know, we're identical twins, so we do the same thing.
Scott Benner (37:44) Oh my god. (37:44) Do you match to the same girls?
Connor (37:47) I don't know. (37:48) What
Scott Benner (37:48) do you mean you don't know? (37:49) Stop it, Connor.
Connor (37:50) Well well, no. (37:51) So I met my wife, probably a year or two before my brother met his. (37:58) Oh, yeah. (37:59) Was funny. (37:59) So I met my wife on Tinder and yeah.
Connor (38:04) I mean, she my my wife is only the second girlfriend I ever had. (38:08) And, yeah, I met her and then
Scott Benner (38:11) And your brother was like, worked for him. (38:13) I'll try it too?
Connor (38:14) Pretty much. (38:15) We had one of our wrestling coaches. (38:18) So how I got mine, he literally made a Tinder account for me because I'm I was always so shy. (38:23) And so he made an account for me and pretty much just swiped right on every girl and made me start.
Scott Benner (38:29) Oh, thank god that's where that story was going because I thought for sure you were gonna say one of my wrestling coaches hit on me on Tinder. (38:34) I I like, where is this headed? (38:37) Oh, gosh. (38:38) So somebody took your phone and was like, look, man. (38:40) You gotta find some ladies and then, like, put put put helped you with your profile and then just, like, swiped on all of them.
Scott Benner (38:46) It was like, here. (38:47) Go meet somebody.
Connor (38:48) Yeah. (38:48) And I was like like, I was super shy and, like, I had no clue how to talk to girls.
Scott Benner (38:54) And Yeah.
Connor (38:54) And, yeah. (38:56) I don't know.
Scott Benner (38:56) I Well, you spend a lot of time rolling around on a mat with guys, I would imagine. (39:00) Like, I've seen the same thing. (39:02) I mean, my son played a lot of baseball growing up. (39:04) And sometimes you get those kids off that baseball field and start talking to them. (39:07) You're like, uh-oh.
Scott Benner (39:08) Somebody's been standing in a piece of grass by themselves a little too long. (39:11) You you know what I mean? (39:12) Like, you you you don't have a lot of social skills. (39:14) You're really good at baseball and, like, sometimes not nothing else.
Connor (39:18) Yeah. (39:18) Exactly.
Scott Benner (39:19) That's how long have you been married?
Connor (39:21) Eight years.
Scott Benner (39:22) You're a Tinder success story.
Connor (39:24) Yeah. (39:24) Absolutely.
Scott Benner (39:25) Do have little Tinder babies?
Connor (39:26) Yeah. (39:27) One little Tinder baby.
Scott Benner (39:28) Kidding. (39:28) What'd you name him?
Connor (39:30) Zoe. (39:31) Zoe. (39:31) Oh. (39:32) Yeah.
Scott Benner (39:32) She's awesome. (39:32) That's an awesome name for a girl. (39:34) That's really awesome. (39:35) Look at you. (39:36) Wow.
Scott Benner (39:36) And what what may I ask, since we're talking about this, your your wife, when she found herself on Tinder, have you guys talked about it? (39:43) Like, what led her there? (39:44) Did somebody grab her phone and stick her there, or how did she end up on it?
Connor (39:49) You know, I'm not really sure how she ended up on Tinder, but she said that she was, she was liked the name Connor, which that's my name. (40:01) So Perfect. (40:03) I it was either she liked the name Connor or guys that start with the letter c. (40:08) And
Scott Benner (40:09) Well, I'm trying too hard. (40:10) I didn't know that's what was going on.
Connor (40:12) Okay. (40:12) Liked she liked what my bio said. (40:14) I don't really remember what it said. (40:16) But my picture, my profile picture was like a picture of me, like, in my wrestling single when I won the national championship my senior year. (40:25) Mhmm.
Connor (40:25) And, apparently, the the picture's, like, from behind. (40:30) Like, I was, like, yelling at them to the stands, and it's only my back. (40:34) She can't even see my face. (40:35) And my wife was like, you didn't even have a picture of your, like, your face, so I didn't even know what you look like in your profile picture. (40:43) So I didn't know if you were just, like, ugly and didn't wanna show yourself or what.
Scott Benner (40:47) But But she still she still learned how about that? (40:51) It's really interesting because you had a c in your name or your name was Connor.
Connor (40:55) Yeah. (40:55) Exactly.
Scott Benner (40:56) Let me tell you something. (40:57) This is this is, should I say this? (40:59) Probably not. (41:00) Oh, well. (41:02) My son and his longtime girlfriend, they broke up last year.
Scott Benner (41:05) And so he's very private about, you know, his dating habits and stuff like that. (41:10) But every once in a while, like, he'll be, like on Friday, he'll be like, yeah. (41:13) I'm I'm going to the city. (41:15) And then he doesn't come back, you know, that night. (41:18) And I'm like, where are you?
Scott Benner (41:19) You did you meet somebody? (41:20) No. (41:20) No. (41:21) No. (41:21) I just I just met some friends.
Scott Benner (41:22) I might and I'm like, that's not what's happened. (41:25) I know what's going on. (41:26) So yeah. (41:27) Anyway, it's it's it's cute that he doesn't wanna, like, tell us. (41:31) But that's crazy, man.
Scott Benner (41:33) So you just you're just a shy person. (41:35) Now is your twin brother shy?
Connor (41:37) Yeah. (41:37) I mean, we're we're identical twins.
Scott Benner (41:40) We're Very similar.
Connor (41:41) The same thing. (41:42) So my brother starts using well, so he he he has Tinder. (41:48) He's, like, Christian Mingle and, like, all of whatever other dating websites. (41:52) And I remember my wife and I were trying to create him, like, an eHarmony profile, and we type his email address into it. (42:00) And it says, already account already created.
Connor (42:04) But it was funny because, like, he would he would be going on all these dates with all these different girls, and, like, it was just fun watching watching So the
Scott Benner (42:15) so you go on this I guess I don't I'm not asking, like, a lot of details about them. (42:21) But did you go on a lot of dates, or did you meet your future wife pretty early in the process?
Connor (42:26) Oh, no. (42:26) It's like she was the first Oh. (42:28) Person I ever went on a date
Scott Benner (42:30) with. (42:30) That's kinda boring, but okay. (42:31) Alright. (42:32) So but so when do you tell her about diabetes? (42:35) That's I'm really interested about that.
Scott Benner (42:37) Like, so she's meeting you almost sight unseen to begin with. (42:40) You're getting to know each other completely cold. (42:42) You're pretty shy. (42:43) But when does it occur to you that she should know about the type one?
Connor (42:46) I would imagine.
Scott Benner (42:47) I I You don't remember?
Connor (42:48) Remember, but I would imagine I told because we talked for, like, a week or two before we even went out on a date.
Scott Benner (42:55) Okay.
Connor (42:55) And and I would imagine I told her, like, pretty much right away.
Scott Benner (43:00) I would do good in this new ecosystem because I think the the chatting upfront part, you know what I mean? (43:06) Like, I think that would overcome a lot. (43:08) Like, I you know what I mean? (43:10) Like, I think they wouldn't care that I wasn't very tall by the time they liked me. (43:14) It's a whole, like there's a whole vibe to that.
Scott Benner (43:16) Hey. (43:16) Did did you know that there's a there's a height cutoff that, like, a large percentage of women won't won't consider men on dating apps under a certain height? (43:26) So there's a a rash of men lying about their height.
Connor (43:29) I've heard of that. (43:31) Yeah. (43:31) And I know I'm five six, so I'm not the tallest person.
Scott Benner (43:34) Oh my gosh, Connor. (43:34) No. (43:35) Yeah. (43:36) Again, then the and there's this other, there's this other stat I find fascinating, but it's not popping right to my head. (43:43) But, like, let me see if I can find it.
Scott Benner (43:46) There's a stat about about dating that women have what is it about dating? (43:56) Hold on. (43:57) Let me see. (43:58) Women, like, they have a better, like, choice of, like, the what is that? (44:04) Like, a certain percentage of the top percentage of women are only going after certain, like, percentage of guys, and so most other guys getting, like, queried, and it's, like, it's leaving to this whole imbalance of, like there's, like I don't know how to put it exact.
Scott Benner (44:20) Have you am I making sense right now? (44:22) Hold on a second. (44:23) Let me
Connor (44:23) I've heard of, like, I don't like, certain, like, dating apps or whatever. (44:29) They have, like they make a whole bunch of, like, fake women like, female profiles or something like that. (44:37) I don't know if
Scott Benner (44:38) that's what you're trying to No. (44:39) It's not, but that's happening too. (44:40) What do mean they're making fake profiles? (44:42) What so they can, like how what would that what would that
Connor (44:46) I feel like I've seen it on, like, Netflix documentaries. (44:49) Like Okay. (44:51) What what's the whatever the the website that people go on and cheat on their spouses. (44:58) Oh. (44:59) Like, they they would Oh.
Connor (45:02) They would make a whole bunch of, like, fake female profiles
Scott Benner (45:05) Mhmm.
Connor (45:06) Because, like, a lot more dudes are getting onto that website than than
Scott Benner (45:11) It's a whole weird ecosystem. (45:13) So okay. (45:14) Well, neither here nor there, I guess. (45:15) I'll figure it out while we're talking. (45:17) But when when you tell her about the diabetes, does she have context for it, or is she just like you're just like, I gotta give my child a shot or this is my pump, and she's like, right on.
Scott Benner (45:25) Who cares? (45:25) Or how did that go?
Connor (45:26) Yeah. (45:26) That I mean, that's how I remember it happening. (45:29) It it didn't really seem like a big deal at all. (45:32) And our and, you know, we went on our first date at a restaurant, and I showed her I I I'm guessing I told her everything about diabetes, like, in the first two weeks that we're talking to Texan. (45:46) Because I remember going on our first date, I was like, man, we've been talking for two weeks already.
Connor (45:52) I feel like I've already told her everything there is to know about me. (45:55) Like, what are we gonna talk about on our date? (45:58) Because I've already told her everything. (46:00) That's what I remember thinking going on.
Scott Benner (46:01) Were you then?
Connor (46:03) So that would have been I was probably 22.
Scott Benner (46:10) Mhmm. (46:11) Okay. (46:12) Wow. (46:13) And and she's, your first, like or your second girlfriend?
Connor (46:16) Yep.
Scott Benner (46:17) I well, I'm no kidding. (46:18) And how long did it have been between the first one and the second one?
Connor (46:22) Probably, like, six months. (46:26) Maybe a little less than that.
Scott Benner (46:27) Okay. (46:27) Okay. (46:28) Alright. (46:28) So you were you were doing it then. (46:30) So this I've I found the thing that I'm talking about, and I think it is a thing that maybe sometimes people say isn't true.
Scott Benner (46:37) But there's this idea that, like, 80% of the women are only looking at the top 20% of the men. (46:43) Like, so, like, so if you don't, like, fall somehow into a, you know, a desirable category at the top 20% of whatever that desirability is, that most women aren't looking for you. (46:56) And some something about the the the dating sphere being online like that allows it to like, I guess, it lets them, I don't know, be more choosy. (47:06) And and and it's easier because you can probably just filter by height or filter by, like, I did my son did tell us once on a dating app that he started talking to a girl, and she said, you listed your height as this. (47:17) Is that really how tall you are?
Scott Benner (47:20) And and he said, And she was, like, basically, like, do not show up here if you're not that height.
Connor (47:25) I was like, oh my god.
Scott Benner (47:27) It's pretty interesting. (47:28) You know?
Connor (47:29) Yeah. (47:29) Yeah. (47:29) I think I think I did put my height on there, I guess.
Scott Benner (47:32) Is your wife shorter than you?
Connor (47:34) We're, like, the same height. (47:36) I think I might be a little bit taller than her. (47:38) But every time we go out somewhere, she's always wearing, like, heels or something. (47:41) So I have to wear, like, thick thick soled shoes.
Scott Benner (47:43) Yeah. (47:44) My my wife is five nine, and she walks around. (47:47) She's, like, over six feet tall in shoes. (47:48) And I think she does it just to screw with me. (47:50) But but but she wore shoes like that before I knew her, so maybe not.
Scott Benner (47:55) I don't really I don't care. (47:56) I liked that my wife's tall, actually. (47:58) So, nevertheless. (48:01) So okay. (48:02) We so at that point when you're dating and you're using a pump at that point.
Scott Benner (48:06) Right?
Connor (48:07) Yes.
Scott Benner (48:07) Okay. (48:08) And how long or maybe never like, you've been married eight years. (48:13) I don't really know how long the courtship was, but it sounds like it's been about a decade here. (48:17) So how much does your wife know about your diabetes present day, and how comfortable were you giving the information that she has?
Connor (48:29) I mean, she knows I guess, like, I like, she she knows, like, if my blood sugar's high to give me insulin, like, insulin. (48:40) She knows, like, how to look it up because I use TandemObi.
Scott Benner (48:43) Mhmm. (48:44) She
Connor (48:44) she knows it's all on my phone, how to plug in the carbs and all that stuff. (48:50) And, like, if I go, woah, she knows I need to eat. (48:53) You know?
Scott Benner (48:53) But if I brought her to my house and said, hey. (48:55) Take care of my daughter. (48:56) Make all the decisions. (48:57) She wouldn't be great at it?
Connor (48:59) Yeah. (48:59) I I don't think so.
Scott Benner (49:00) You don't think so? (49:01) By the way, I wanna just say tandemdiabetes.com/juicebox if you'd like to get a tandem Mobi. (49:05) Absolutely. (49:06) Yeah. (49:06) Thank you.
Scott Benner (49:08) Okay. (49:08) So she's got enough of an idea of it that, like I don't know. (49:13) Like, if if you passed out, would she give you glucagon?
Connor (49:17) Yeah. (49:17) So that's a funny thing. (49:19) I hadn't had a glucagon the whole time we've been dating. (49:23) And then, like, my last endo appointment, I because I'd started listening to the podcast. (49:29) I was like, you know what?
Connor (49:30) I need to get it. (49:30) I should probably just carry around a glucagon, just in case. (49:35) So I ended up getting the Bisquimi. (49:37) Is that the the nasal one?
Scott Benner (49:39) Aiabaximi. (49:39) Right? (49:40) They you squirt the powder up the nose?
Connor (49:42) Yep. (49:42) So I got that one. (49:44) So I have one that I keep in my little fanny pack.
Scott Benner (49:47) That's always with me. (49:48) I think everybody should have something like that. (49:50) Also, they're not a sponsor, but, you know, it's fine. (49:52) I'm happy to talk about it. (49:53) I don't just talk about people who are sponsors.
Scott Benner (49:55) Although, in fairness, I think I got most of the companies as sponsors, so we're pretty close. (50:01) But, no, I I want people to have glucagon. (50:03) I really don't care which one you have. (50:05) I just I would really like you to have it, when you're walking around. (50:08) And I want the people around you to know how to use it and when to use it.
Connor (50:11) Yeah. (50:11) And I figured that would be, you know, just shoving it up your nose. (50:15) Because all glucagon I had was the one that in that red box.
Scott Benner (50:19) The red box.
Connor (50:19) Mix mix everything and give them a shot. (50:21) And I was like, it'd probably be easiest just for my wife to shove something up my nose and
Scott Benner (50:27) I'm pretty sure Lily stopped making that anyway. (50:30) So Oh, really?
Connor (50:31) Yeah. (50:31) Yeah.
Scott Benner (50:31) I think the red box is gone. (50:34) Yeah. (50:34) So, I mean, yeah, if you use Gvoke or you use Baqsimi, like, I just I just really think it's important to carry it with you.
Connor (50:40) Yeah. (50:41) Yeah. (50:41) So my wife, like, if if I needed help with something, she could do it. (50:45) But, like, I'm
Scott Benner (50:48) Taking care of yourself.
Connor (50:49) Yeah. (50:49) Like More granularly. (50:51) I'm very on on top of all my management.
Scott Benner (50:54) So What's that mean, Connor? (50:56) Like, where's your a one c set? (50:57) How's your variability?
Connor (50:59) So my last a one c that I had was a 4.9.
Scott Benner (51:03) Holy hell.
Connor (51:04) Yeah. (51:04) I was I was surprised. (51:06) And then, well, I guess and then, what's the the standard deviation or variability? (51:12) It was, like, 28 on my last Dexcom Clarity thing.
Scott Benner (51:17) Incumbent upon me to say congratulations and to ask you, get low a lot?
Connor (51:24) No. (51:25) So, like, I I've just, like so, like, there's a the whole big story. (51:31) You know, I get out of college and, you know, I I win my national championship and I do all that. (51:37) And, you know, after I'm I'm done wrestling, I continue I I go back to, like, kinda eating whatever I wanted because I was like, you know, I can eat whatever I want. (51:47) Mhmm.
Connor (51:47) And so I ate whatever I wanted. (51:50) And, you know, I go from one seventy four, up to two years ago. (51:56) I I weigh in, like, two hundred twenty five pounds.
Scott Benner (51:59) Wow. (51:59) You put 50 pounds on it. (52:00) I I'll tell you, man. (52:01) I I my son stopped playing baseball at the end of college, and we preached to him. (52:07) Like, cold that eating you were doing, that was because you were so active and you were working out so much.
Scott Benner (52:12) And, like, in a regular life, that's not gonna work. (52:14) And he's, as soon as and to his credit, as soon as his weight started to tilt one way, he was like, oh, no. (52:19) No. (52:19) No. (52:20) No.
Scott Benner (52:20) But, like, that happened to you.
Connor (52:22) Oh, it happened. (52:23) And, yeah, I I just thought, like, I thought I was always gonna be able to eat as much as I wanted and that I'd be fine. (52:31) Like, I would literally, because I I was working night shift most of the most of the time, because I'm now up I'm a police officer. (52:41) And
Scott Benner (52:42) Yeah. (52:42) I knew you weren't a history professor.
Connor (52:43) Yeah. (52:44) So I get home I get home from work, and I was like, man, what do I wanna eat? (52:50) So I would literally, like, pull out a bag of
Scott Benner (52:52) tortilla chips and then, like, a huge
Connor (52:54) tub of buffalo chicken dip, and I already eat, like, the whole thing. (52:57) And I'm like, man, I'm still kinda hungry. (53:00) I I would eat, like, Reese's and Kit Kats out of the freezer. (53:04) I would like
Scott Benner (53:05) Are you doing shift work? (53:06) So you you having these meals at, what, midnight sometimes? (53:09) Sometimes 7PM? (53:10) Like or do
Connor (53:10) you No. (53:11) I would I I would, work from, like, 6PM to 6AM. (53:15) So I get home, like, 6AM.
Scott Benner (53:17) Oh, eat like a monster in the middle of the morning. (53:20) Yeah. (53:20) Yeah.
Connor (53:20) I get home, eat, take a shower, go to bed. (53:24) That's what I did.
Scott Benner (53:25) Eat a tub of buffalo chicken dip, which I'm gonna tell you is grease and protein and and chips, then go sleep it off for 08:10 hours.
Connor (53:33) Yeah. (53:33) And yeah. (53:35) I don't I don't know how, like, I was able to control my blood sugar. (53:41) Like, I'm sure it wasn't that great.
Scott Benner (53:44) Mhmm.
Connor (53:44) But my my a one c's were always, you know, mid sixes and whatnot. (53:49) But my weight was always going up, and and I didn't have a CGM. (53:55) Like, my doctors were always like, we we want you to get a CGM. (53:58) And I'd had a CGM before, so, right when I got out of college because I I didn't want one when I was wrestling because, you know, I did the the med I was on Medtronic, pump at the time when I was in college, they had the the Guardian CGM. (54:14) And I was like, man, that thing is so big.
Connor (54:15) And I remember they gave me I tried it out during one summer, and, like, it was just such a hassle for me to to put that thing on. (54:24) There it was just so many different steps, and it was big.
Scott Benner (54:27) I think Medtronic is super excited to get their new Oh, yeah. (54:31) Out to people. (54:31) By the way, medtronicdiabetes.com/juicebox. (54:34) And, hey. (54:36) Yeah.
Scott Benner (54:36) I think the the Simplera and then the other one. (54:38) Like, they right? (54:39) They have one they're making.
Connor (54:40) The Libre?
Scott Benner (54:41) Yeah. (54:41) They're making one in house, and then they're and they have Libre is making another one with them, right, for their devices. (54:48) Yeah. (54:48) Yeah. (54:48) Yeah.
Scott Benner (54:48) It's gonna be like a whole little offering now from them.
Connor (54:51) Yeah. (54:51) Yeah. (54:52) That that's that's that's
Scott Benner (54:54) Exciting for people. (54:55) Like, because that Medtronic because those Medtronic pumps are like, that algorithm's good. (54:59) That seven eighty g algorithms is Yeah. (55:00) Is pretty good.
Connor (55:01) Absolutely. (55:02) And they so I they I tried out the Guardian the first time, and I was like and it kept falling off because I go to the lake, and it get ripped off, like, wakeboarding stuff. (55:13) They get ripped off, you know, wrestling. (55:16) And I was like, I'm not gonna do a CGM. (55:18) So go another however many years.
Connor (55:21) And then when I got out of college, I was like, well, I'm not wrestling anymore. (55:26) I'll try out the Guardian CGM again, and they got me whatever. (55:30) I don't remember which version of the pump I had. (55:33) Oh, it was, I think, the six eighty maybe. (55:35) Okay.
Connor (55:36) And so I try the the Guardian CGM again, and, man, I I don't know what it was, but the alarms and stuff, like, you couldn't control them as much as you can with the Dexcoms or the Libres. (55:52) Mhmm. (55:52) At least that was my experience Yeah. (55:54) At the time. (55:55) And I was just like, I I can't do this.
Connor (55:58) Like, I'm I'm better with just finger pricking. (56:00) So I I did finger pricks all the way up into a year and a half ago. (56:05) And then, my warranty had been up on my insulin pump on Medtronic, and I was like so I started doing a whole bunch of research and watching YouTube videos, and I saw the tandem Moby. (56:18) And there's a whole bunch of different reasons why I went with the Moby. (56:22) Mhmm.
Connor (56:23) But, like, at work, you know, I'm wearing my whole police uniform. (56:27) And for me, like, I I, like, cut holes in my pockets and would run the tubing through, like, my pockets. (56:34) So, like, the tubing never got caught on anything. (56:37) Yeah. (56:37) And, but I always had to pull my insulin pump out of my pocket, and it's hard with, like, the gun belt and everything.
Scott Benner (56:43) Mhmm.
Connor (56:43) So I was like, it'd be nice to have something else. (56:47) And, you know, the idea of the Omnipod is cool because, like, it's all con controlled through your phone or the PDM or whatever it but I just didn't like how you couldn't take it off. (57:00) Like, if I was gonna go wakeboarding or if I go to a wrestling practice or something, like, I'm gonna tear that thing off.
Scott Benner (57:06) You wanted there to be an infusion set still.
Connor (57:08) Yeah. (57:08) Because I I, like I mean, I even tore infusion sets off a lot. (57:12) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (57:13) Well, let me just say if, people disagree with you, omnipod.com/juicebox. (57:18) Links in the show notes. (57:19) Links at juiceboxpodcast.com. (57:21) Now now we keep going. (57:22) So you went with the Mobi, which is a great pump.
Scott Benner (57:24) Love the algorithm. (57:25) Absolutely awesome. (57:26) Right? (57:26) Did you do the update recently that gives you Absolutely.
Connor (57:29) Yeah. (57:30) Good. (57:30) Yeah. (57:30) So I I go with the Mobi. (57:32) Yeah.
Connor (57:32) And I ended up getting the Mobi, like, the day that it got linked that it was able to get linked with the g seven.
Scott Benner (57:42) Oh, okay.
Connor (57:42) So I've I first so how I got introduced to CGMs was I am on a I was on a special unit at my police department that's, like, a whole made up a whole of a whole bunch of different agencies in our area. (57:59) And one of the guys on our unit was, his son's type one diabetic. (58:02) He's like, oh, you need to get a CGM. (58:04) I was like, I don't want another thing to stick on my body. (58:07) He's like, trust me.
Connor (58:08) You need to get one. (58:09) They're awesome. (58:10) And so the funny thing is is we were fostering this dog. (58:14) My wife was, and, the dog's diabetic, and they would give her they gave her CGM to to measure the dog's blood sugar. (58:26) And, Sonja ended up adopting the dog, and we had, like, an extra Libre CGM laying around.
Connor (58:33) And I was like, you know, and I'm I'm just gonna throw this on and try it. (58:36) And it was really nice. (58:38) So then I was I just asked my doctor. (58:40) I'm like, hey. (58:41) Just the Libre Libre three was a small CGM.
Connor (58:44) I was like, that's the smallest one. (58:46) That's the only one I wanna use. (58:48) So I used the Libre three for, like, two weeks, and then I ended up getting the Mobi. (58:53) And it it connected to the g seven, and I was like, I really don't wanna use the g seven because it's bigger. (58:59) But I did, and I I love it.
Connor (59:02) Yeah. (59:02) Like, then the and especially with the new Control IQ plus, like, being able to do the temp basils, man, it's it's amazing that, like, I have such good control. (59:15) Like, I guess, like because, like, I I've started working out a lot more. (59:22) Like, I'm just trying to be really healthy because, you know, I gained all the weight. (59:27) And then, basically, it took me about a year, just with, you know, eating and exercising.
Connor (59:36) I got I'm down to about one sixty right now.
Scott Benner (59:39) I've been
Connor (59:39) maintaining one sixty for about the last year.
Scott Benner (59:44) That was just calories exercise? (59:46) That's how you how you got about it?
Connor (59:47) I had no clue how to lose weight at the beginning. (59:51) I knew that you had to eat less calories than what you burned. (59:54) So I had, like I downloaded MyFitnessPal or whatever. (59:57) And I remember when I first started losing weight, I was like, I don't know how many calories I should be eating in a day. (1:00:03) I was like, I'll just, like I'll eat, like, 1,600 calories a day.
Connor (1:00:06) That's how I started. (1:00:08) But I I still wasn't eating healthy. (1:00:10) Like, there's, like, leftover pizza in the fridge. (1:00:13) Like, my wife had pizza pizza that they had from her work that she leftover pizza. (1:00:19) And I was like, you know, I'm just gonna eat this pizza until I reach the calories and then, but eventually, I started, you know, eating healthier.
Connor (1:00:28) And, you know, now, like, I meal prep pretty much all my meals. (1:00:32) Right? (1:00:33) So I know and I I pretty much eat the same things for all my meals. (1:00:37) So I know, you know, it's kinda like I was my senior in college where I know, like, what I'm gonna eat and how much insulin I need to take and how it's gonna affect me. (1:00:48) And so I I've got it down to a science.
Connor (1:00:50) Like, I wake up at, like, 05:50 every morning, and I I do, like, an hour workout on my Peloton. (1:00:58) And, so the cool thing about the gosh. (1:01:02) I feel like I'm all over the place.
Scott Benner (1:01:03) No. (1:01:03) You're doing fine. (1:01:04) I I'm interested. (1:01:05) Keep going.
Connor (1:01:06) So the really cool thing about the Mobi I mean, you can do this probably on any of the insulin pumps, but you have all the different profiles that you have set. (1:01:15) And, like, I have a a morning workout profile that I I set, before I go to bed every every night. (1:01:22) Mhmm. (1:01:22) And, basically, whatever time I wake up normally, I wake up at, like, 05:50 in the morning on workdays. (1:01:29) And I have it set so two hours before I wake up, I set my basal to zero.
Connor (1:01:39) And and, so then I'll have no onboard insulin. (1:01:44) So I'll wake up depending on, like, what I what I eat the prior night. (1:01:48) Like, I'll wake up anywhere from from, like it's really cool to watch it on the CGM how it how it starts to work. (1:01:55) But, like, if it cuts off my my basal insulin at, like, let's say, 04:00, at, like, 05:00, it slowly starts rising up. (1:02:07) And then by the time I wake up, I'll be anywhere from, like, one fifty to one sixty normally.
Connor (1:02:12) Mhmm. (1:02:12) And then I know I, I work out and for my hour. (1:02:17) And by the end of my workout, because I do pretty hard workout normally Yeah. (1:02:22) Anywhere from 70 to 80. (1:02:25) And I know but the thing is since I haven't had the basal insulin for the last, by then, three hours by the end of my workout
Scott Benner (1:02:32) Yeah.
Connor (1:02:33) I know even if my blood sugar's 70, like, when I'm doing my cool down, I give myself point six or point seven depending on if I'm 70 or 80. (1:02:42) I'll give myself point six or point seven units of insulin, my last fifteen minutes of the cool down even if my blood sugar is at 70. (1:02:51) I'll still do that. (1:02:52) And then I go and take my I throw my food in the oven, and I go and take my shower. (1:02:58) When I hop out of my shower, I hit my pre bolus for one point six units.
Scott Benner (1:03:02) Yeah.
Connor (1:03:02) And then, you know, fifteen minutes later, my food's ready. (1:03:06) I eat it, and then my blood sugar's, like, steady at, like, to 90 to a 100 until I eat again. (1:03:15) And then yeah. (1:03:16) And then so I do that. (1:03:19) And, you know, in the afternoon, I like to take my daughter to the park and take her on walks and stuff like that.
Scott Benner (1:03:24) Right.
Connor (1:03:25) And, normally, like, my second meal, I'll have, like, I don't know, probably around, like, 20 grams of carbs with potatoes and, broccoli and stuff like that. (1:03:37) And
Scott Benner (1:03:39) You're kinda you've taken that what you learned, like, wrestling with how to manage food, and you're just doing it with this now.
Connor (1:03:46) Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:03:47) Yeah. (1:03:47) You're you're specific with it and careful.
Connor (1:03:50) Yeah. (1:03:51) And yeah. (1:03:53) I it's like I have a couple
Scott Benner (1:03:55) of questions, though. (1:03:55) How did you like, so first things first is I looked you up online because I didn't like, I saw you when you came on, and I've and and now I found a a a few photos of you that are just a few years old. (1:04:07) I mean, you really did you lost a lot of weight. (1:04:09) It's awesome. (1:04:09) Like, congratulations.
Scott Benner (1:04:11) Also, I saw that girl. (1:04:12) I don't know how the hell you tricked her into marrying you, but good job. (1:04:15) And I know. (1:04:15) Yeah. (1:04:16) Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:04:16) I mean, really. (1:04:17) Like, seriously, it's way way too pretty for you, Connor.
Connor (1:04:20) But but
Scott Benner (1:04:21) that's that's I did get lucky. (1:04:23) Yeah. (1:04:24) No. (1:04:24) No kidding. (1:04:25) But but you you decided to do something, obviously.
Scott Benner (1:04:29) You found the podcast at some point. (1:04:31) You look you were looking at ways to change your health. (1:04:33) Like, did you have has your diabetes management gotten any better, or has this all been food for you?
Connor (1:04:40) Yes. (1:04:41) So my diabetes management has gotten a lot better. (1:04:45) Like I said, I've always been in this in the below this seven a one c that you're supposed to have. (1:04:52) You know? (1:04:54) But, you know, I would just, you know, eating eating unhealthy and then just I would just, like, load myself up with insulin, and my insulin sensitivity has
Scott Benner (1:05:06) I dropped that blood.
Connor (1:05:07) Oh my gosh. (1:05:08) Yeah. (1:05:08) It's it's insane. (1:05:09) Like, I would go from I would take, like, sixty units a day. (1:05:14) I mean, granted, I was probably eating a lot more more carbs than what I do now, but I still I mean, now, like, I feel like I'm eating, like, different kinds of carbs, like veggies and stuff like that.
Connor (1:05:28) But I still like, I'll eat 300 carbs a day.
Scott Benner (1:05:32) Wow. (1:05:32) But they're Like,
Connor (1:05:33) my total daily my total daily units, like, I'll take, like, fifteen fifteen to 18 is is how many units I I take a day. (1:05:42) And if I ate that same thing back when I was when I was, you know, two hundred twenty twenty five pounds, like, I'd be I'd be up over, like, 50 units.
Scott Benner (1:05:53) Oh, sure. (1:05:54) Well, the the extra weight's gonna have something to do with your sensitivity and, you know, the types of carbs as well, but, like, you you start changing all of that. (1:06:02) You get your weight down by 50 pounds. (1:06:03) Right? (1:06:04) And and you you eat cleaner even though you're still eating a lot of carbs.
Scott Benner (1:06:08) That's a it's a big difference for you. (1:06:10) I'm I'm I'm happy for you.
Connor (1:06:12) And it's not only the diabetes. (1:06:14) Like, I, I had, like, acid reflux. (1:06:17) Like, I mean, it's actually me buffalo chicken dipping candy before going to bed. (1:06:21) But I remember, like, being in bed and, like, getting acid reflux and having to go take omeprazole or whatever and then, like, my blood pressure and, like, just, like, little things.
Scott Benner (1:06:35) Yeah.
Connor (1:06:35) And I remember I mean, just looking at yourself in the mirror, I remember telling my wife, I'm like, I think I'm fat. (1:06:40) And she's like, oh, you're not fat. (1:06:42) I was like, I think I am. (1:06:44) And I remember the thing that that got me to actually start losing the weight was we had a a training at work where it was like a firearms training and defensive tactics training, like, mixed together. (1:06:56) Mhmm.
Connor (1:06:57) And whatever the defensive like, we had to, like, wrestle around with these guys and then go shoot a handgun course or whatever. (1:07:05) And I remember I was so tired after doing the defensive tactics portion, and I was like, man, I was a a national champion in college. (1:07:13) I shouldn't be, like, this tired after doing this. (1:07:16) Yeah. (1:07:16) And I was like, I got I gotta change something.
Connor (1:07:18) And then that that was right after I had my daughter too. (1:07:21) And I was like, I I need to get healthy so I can
Scott Benner (1:07:24) Yeah. (1:07:24) Go go to the park.
Connor (1:07:26) Yeah. (1:07:26) Absolutely.
Scott Benner (1:07:27) Listen. (1:07:27) My buddy just retired last year, but I remember from years ago, like, the vests were really something. (1:07:33) Like, are they different now? (1:07:35) Are they not as bulky as they used to be? (1:07:37) Because I imagine that gets tougher as you're putting on weight and you're trying to wear a pump and, like, all the other stuff too.
Connor (1:07:42) Yeah. (1:07:43) I mean, it's luckily, the department that I work for, you know, you you you you have the the old school police uniform, you know, like the the the shirt and tie with the, you know, the trooper hat or whatever.
Scott Benner (1:08:01) Right.
Connor (1:08:01) That was kinda what we we had when I first got hired. (1:08:05) But now we have, like, the, you know, the load bearing vest where, like, you can put your radio
Scott Benner (1:08:10) Vest on the outside now.
Connor (1:08:11) Yeah. (1:08:12) So, like, it it it takes a lot a lot of the weight off your hips and stuff because you used to have to have everything that you carried was on your gun belt, and it was, like, a leather gun belt. (1:08:23) And it was, like
Scott Benner (1:08:24) Mhmm.
Connor (1:08:24) You know, just, like, not very comfortable. (1:08:27) And, like, now we our uniform, like, the the pants are a lot more comfortable. (1:08:31) The shirt's comfy. (1:08:33) The vest just takes a lot of the weight off
Scott Benner (1:08:35) of you. (1:08:36) It's almost like your it's almost like a ruck like a ruck then because Yeah. (1:08:39) It's up on your torso. (1:08:40) Yeah. (1:08:40) My I mean, I just I can picture Ray, like, if that thing's stuffed under his shirt, like, you're wearing a shirt and it like you said, he wore a tie in the beginning, like, over top of it.
Scott Benner (1:08:49) They got rid of the ties eventually. (1:08:52) And he was always pulling on that vest and pulling on that belt, like, constantly. (1:08:56) You
Connor (1:08:56) you know?
Scott Benner (1:08:57) So
Connor (1:08:57) It's it's and it's still, like, there's so much stuff. (1:09:00) Like, it gets it wears you out, but it's better than what it was. (1:09:06) And the thing with me is measured me from my new vest that I have now, like, right before I decided to lose all the weight. (1:09:13) So it's, like, kinda big on me.
Scott Benner (1:09:14) So Well, I was gonna say, like, it must just be more comfortable working and and managing your diabetes with your pump and and all that other stuff.
Connor (1:09:22) Yeah. (1:09:22) So that with the Mobi, it's really nice because, how I wear it is I use a 23 inch tubing, and I have, like, compression short underwear, and I have, like, the phone pockets on each side.
Scott Benner (1:09:33) Yeah.
Connor (1:09:34) So I just put the the Mobi on the same side that my CGM's on, and then, like, it so it's it connects better. (1:09:43) And then, like, if I need to adjust my basal or take a bolus or whatever I need to do, you know, I can just do it from my phone, which is so nice with all that gear on.
Scott Benner (1:09:53) It's awesome.
Connor (1:09:53) Which is why I love the Mobi.
Scott Benner (1:09:55) Yeah. (1:09:55) No kidding. (1:09:57) We should call this episode four score and 50 pounds ago.
Connor (1:10:00) Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:10:01) I'm happy for you, man. (1:10:02) And how old are you? (1:10:03) 33, did you say?
Connor (1:10:05) Yep. (1:10:05) 33.
Scott Benner (1:10:06) I mean, you you got a lot figured out and changed around for yourself in a in a short amount of time while you're still young, which I I I just feel good about that you didn't spend decades, you know, suffering and then figuring something out as it got worse and worse. (1:10:19) Yeah. (1:10:19) What and really, like, what it just was there all the things you mentioned just like wrestling around on a, you know, in a training and realizing you were out of shape and looking at yourself in the mirror, and these things just all kinda, like, piled up on you. (1:10:31) Like, I gotta do something here.
Connor (1:10:33) Yeah. (1:10:34) Yeah. (1:10:34) I'm I'm a I'm definitely a person that, I guess, I I live for the future. (1:10:41) Like, I I don't wanna, you know, like like, how I even gotten to this podcast, like, I used to I used to just listen to, like, finance podcasts, like, the MoneyGuy Show and Dave Ramsey and stuff like that Yeah. (1:10:56) To try to set myself up for the future financially.
Connor (1:11:00) And so that's all I did. (1:11:01) And then I came across Juicebox. (1:11:04) Someone there was a picture of someone wearing a Juicebox podcast shirt on Facebook, and I was like, Juicebox podcast? (1:11:13) I was like, that sounds kinda weird. (1:11:14) But then I looked it up, and then I started listening to the Juicebox podcast probably, I don't know, probably, like, five five months ago.
Connor (1:11:23) And, like, oh, man, I go through all the episodes, like
Scott Benner (1:11:26) I'm glad.
Connor (1:11:27) Yeah. (1:11:27) I love I love it. (1:11:28) I wish I would've started listening earlier because it definitely would've helped me.
Scott Benner (1:11:33) But And don't worry. (1:11:34) There's a 1,500 episodes you probably missed. (1:11:36) You can go find them somewhere. (1:11:37) But but that's interesting. (1:11:38) So you didn't learn about it through, like, somebody saying, hey.
Scott Benner (1:11:42) This is a diabetes thing. (1:11:43) You should check it out. (1:11:43) You just, like, literally saw it and thought it was odd and checked on it?
Connor (1:11:46) Yeah. (1:11:47) It it was probably so I wish I would have known about it when I got my Mobi because it I I probably would have learned a little bit more about it. (1:11:55) But, like, the funny thing with my Moby is is I did all I did was, like, research the Moby on YouTube. (1:12:02) I I didn't really do a whole lot of research on, like, podcasts and stuff like And I never went to a formal training with my Moby cause I just plugged in all the the same settings from my Medtronic, and I watched a whole bunch of YouTube videos. (1:12:17) And I was like, I'm throwing that thing in sleep mode twenty four seven.
Connor (1:12:21) And, that's what
Scott Benner (1:12:22) I how I do, and that's how
Connor (1:12:24) I manage it. (1:12:25) But then, yeah, somehow on Facebook, when I was just kinda digging in on the Moby a little bit more, I saw someone wearing a Juice Box podcast t shirt. (1:12:38) That's great. (1:12:38) And I was like, I'm gonna start listening to that. (1:12:41) And yeah.
Scott Benner (1:12:41) Yeah. (1:12:42) I'm in the process of putting up a whole Tandem, like Control IQ series together with Tandem. (1:12:49) So it's taken a little bit of time, but I think it's gonna be really good when it gets done and it comes out. (1:12:53) So hopefully that'll help you out a little bit too. (1:12:55) Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:12:56) Yeah. (1:12:56) It's awesome, man. (1:12:57) I'm I'm I'm just thrilled for you. (1:12:58) Do you ever I mean, you said you think about the future. (1:13:00) Do you ever worry about your daughter?
Scott Benner (1:13:02) Like, do you think about testing or, you know, is anything like that in the back of your head?
Connor (1:13:07) I do worry about it. (1:13:09) I mean, I don't, like, worry a whole lot, but I I don't I I sure hope she doesn't have to deal with with type one diabetes. (1:13:17) But my wife and I actually just did the, the trial net.
Scott Benner (1:13:22) Yep.
Connor (1:13:22) You know, they mail us the little kit and you prick her finger, and we did that. (1:13:26) And luckily, she, has none of the antibodies.
Scott Benner (1:13:29) Oh, that's great.
Connor (1:13:29) Now she's she's two and a half, so they said we could check her again. (1:13:33) And the funny thing is is we were not growing up when I when I, was diagnosed, they had me in a whole bunch of studies, me and my brother, because we're identical twins. (1:13:44) We did the exact same things our whole life, and somehow I got it and he didn't.
Scott Benner (1:13:49) And so I told my brother, I'm like, hey.
Connor (1:13:52) You should you should do this trial net thing and see if you have any of the antibodies right now. (1:13:58) So he contacted them, and they were like, yeah. (1:14:00) We've already tested you, like, five times, and you don't have any of the antibodies. (1:14:04) And we had no clue.
Scott Benner (1:14:05) Oh, because when you were little, it was happening, and they didn't your parents probably not telling you all that.
Connor (1:14:10) Yeah. (1:14:10) Yeah. (1:14:11) So so yeah. (1:14:13) We tested my daughter, and she doesn't, luckily, now, have any of the antibodies. (1:14:17) So that's good news, I guess.
Scott Benner (1:14:19) Yeah. (1:14:19) I'm glad. (1:14:20) No. (1:14:20) It's it's great news. (1:14:20) I'm happy for you.
Scott Benner (1:14:21) That's awesome. (1:14:22) Anything we didn't talk about that we should have? (1:14:24) Anything that we missed or that I skipped over or what anything at all? (1:14:29) Just wanna make sure.
Connor (1:14:30) No. (1:14:30) I mean, I just man, there's a there's a lot. (1:14:34) Like, I guess, for my my wrestling, like, back to the year that I won my national championship. (1:14:43) Like, I was still on the insulin pump. (1:14:47) But you know how, like, I said, like, sites get torn out and stuff like that.
Connor (1:14:52) So, like, I would during wrestling tournaments, I would still carry syringes and stuff, and I would take shots manually because, like, I knew if I took it with like, if I went and warmed up and somehow my sight got torn out, but, like, it's still sticking to your body so you don't like, you can't really tell if the cannula is still in or not.
Scott Benner (1:15:12) Yeah.
Connor (1:15:12) So I would always take shots, and then I don't know. (1:15:17) I I would I would like to help other people with diabetes and, who are active and who just need more information.
Scott Benner (1:15:31) How how how would you like to be helpful to them? (1:15:34) I'll tell you how you could actually be helpful to them is tell me how you get trick this girl and I marry you. (1:15:38) I think everybody like, seriously, man. (1:15:39) I gotta click off this. (1:15:41) It's freaking me out.
Scott Benner (1:15:42) Well done. (1:15:43) Like, you you outkicked your coverage. (1:15:46) So, and you're not a bad looking guy. (1:15:48) I'm not saying otherwise, but I'm just like, but but but seriously, how how do you wanna help people with diabetes? (1:15:54) Like, what do you feel like they need?
Connor (1:15:57) Man, I don't know. (1:15:58) I just you know, you see on the the Facebook groups, like, just people just having issues and I I people not I guess, a lot of people not taking things as seriously as what they should because, you know, as a as a diabetic, you can you can have the same quality of life. (1:16:22) You can live just as long or heck, I think, you know, I'm healthier. (1:16:27) I I think if I didn't have diabetes, I wouldn't be as healthy because I I probably wouldn't have taken, you know, my health as seriously. (1:16:38) But, like, you can just I don't I don't know.
Connor (1:16:42) I mean, you like, being eating healthy, working out, learning how to, you know, adjust your ratios on that that's another thing is, like, don't don't rely on your doctors because my like, I don't wanna talk bad about my doctors, but, like, man, they're like, I asked them about Afrezza, and they they were like they had no clue. (1:17:07) I told them I was in sleep mode twenty four seven on the Tandem Moby, and they were like, Like, what what's that? (1:17:13) Like, they they just I don't know. (1:17:15) Like, I I do all this research on my own so I can help better myself.
Scott Benner (1:17:23) Yeah.
Connor (1:17:23) And I feel like that's what people need to do, like, to, you know, take control of their their diabetes and do the best that they can. (1:17:32) Like, don't rely on other people. (1:17:34) Like, you gotta figure it out for yourself Mhmm. (1:17:36) And do the research for yourself and and reach out to other people, you know, listen to the podcast, and figure out what you need to do. (1:17:46) Like, don't don't rely on your your diabetes doctor, your endocrinologist, every three months or whatever to change your basal rates and your your correction factors and stuff like that.
Connor (1:17:58) Like, if you see, like, you you you're going high, like, change your up your basal. (1:18:04) And if you're going low, lower it. (1:18:06) If if you need to pre bolus, like, man, like, all these different things.
Scott Benner (1:18:14) I I'm glad you said that. (1:18:15) Actually, Connor, I I I really genuinely believe that where people end up having the most success is when they have the knowledge and the tools to make changes to their settings and make adjustments to their insulin. (1:18:28) Like, I think that's just incredibly important, a hallmark of of people who are successful and and, keeping their numbers where they want them to be. (1:18:37) Yeah. (1:18:38) Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:18:38) And and not that you can't get a great doctor because you you might. (1:18:42) Like that, and that would be awesome, but you also might get a bad one. (1:18:45) And I'm always struck by the idea that, like, how would you know the difference?
Connor (1:18:50) Yeah. (1:18:50) Right. (1:18:50) Yeah. (1:18:51) Absolutely. (1:18:51) Like, when I the last the one of the last times I went to the doctor, she was, like, she was concerned because, like, my blood sugar was, like, leveling off at 80.
Connor (1:19:03) And she's like, I don't want it to go low. (1:19:04) I was like, well, it's it's not gonna go low. (1:19:07) Like, I know it's gonna be fine. (1:19:09) And she was trying to change she wanted me to change my correction factor
Scott Benner (1:19:15) for whatever reason. (1:19:16) Sugar higher.
Connor (1:19:17) And I was like I was like, hey. (1:19:20) I'm in I'm in sleep mode twenty four seven, and I don't remember the last time, like, I had I've had to take, like, a correction, like, a big correction. (1:19:30) And she's like, what do you mean? (1:19:32) Like, how is how would changing changing the correction factor, like, adjust adjust, not make your blood sugar go higher? (1:19:42) It's like because my pump doesn't give me automatic boluses because I'm in sleep mode twenty four seven.
Connor (1:19:49) It only adjusts the basal, and she didn't she didn't understand.
Scott Benner (1:19:52) Yep. (1:19:53) Now listen. (1:19:54) I mean, you're not gonna obviously, everybody's not going to have the same level of understanding. (1:19:59) And for people who are new to this or, you know, you know, I I I guess it would make them a little weirded out to hear that your doctor might not understand something simple about how your pop your pump works, but at the same time, like, I mean, they're they're busy people and they do a lot. (1:20:16) I've just I've interviewed enough of them now to realize that you're gonna get one that knows, you're gonna get one that doesn't, and the rest of it's up to you.
Connor (1:20:23) Yeah. (1:20:24) So yeah. (1:20:24) Yeah. (1:20:24) I'm at the the point where where I I I kinda like just, you know, doing the research on my own, like, listening to podcasts, learning new things, doing my research on YouTube. (1:20:38) Just Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:20:39) You're not you're not looking for a buddy at the doctor's office. (1:20:41) You're looking for somebody to give you some scripts and
Connor (1:20:43) get out of your way. (1:20:44) I I would I would like to I I I asked him about Afrezza because I I was kinda interested in it. (1:20:51) Like, I'm
Scott Benner (1:20:52) not Yeah.
Connor (1:20:52) I'm not gonna switch off the tandem Moby. (1:20:54) I love the Moby. (1:20:55) I love how
Scott Benner (1:20:56) But you might wanna try having the IntelliBull with you. (1:20:58) Yeah.
Connor (1:20:59) Yeah. (1:20:59) Because one of the issues that sorry if this is going too long, but
Scott Benner (1:21:03) You're fine.
Connor (1:21:04) One of the the issues, like, every once in a while, you know, like, I'll take I'll do my pre bolus or whatnot. (1:21:10) And, like, if I put a new site in or something and it it's it doesn't work out, like, my blood sugar will shoot up. (1:21:17) And it would be really nice to you know, if my blood sugar's 200 or Smile like, down. (1:21:22) Just taking a Afrezza and bam, it's back down. (1:21:24) And also on top of that, I my my meal timing, how I eat is, like, I kinda plan it around my activity.
Connor (1:21:34) So because I don't wanna take insulin for the food I have. (1:21:39) And then, like because my insulin sensitivity is so high just because of of how active I am and how much weight I lost that, like, my blood sugar will just drop, like, drastically even, like, if I go for a little walk, like, I'm going low if I just took insulin. (1:21:56) With Afrezza, like, it will it won't it I don't think it would it doesn't stay in your system as long. (1:22:03) Right. (1:22:04) So that's another reason why I wanted to to try it, and it'd be it'd be nice.
Connor (1:22:11) I I also, like, I would love to try the Eversense.
Scott Benner (1:22:16) The implantable.
Connor (1:22:17) Oh, I I would really like to try it because, like, I love the Dexcom. (1:22:21) Like, it's awesome. (1:22:23) But I do have, like, issues with it just because of how active I am and how much I sweat. (1:22:28) Like, I feel like, you know, I a lot of my sensors, they'll fail or the the the numbers will just start jumping around so much that they end up having to replace a lot of them.
Scott Benner (1:22:40) Are you are you waiting for the Eversense CGM to work with, like, your system? (1:22:45) Is that your hope?
Connor (1:22:47) That's that's my hope, but, you know, I don't I I can't see it coming to I I mean, maybe it will. (1:22:54) I would love for it to come to the Mobi, but I don't I I I really like the the algorithm of the Mobi. (1:23:04) Yep. (1:23:04) So but I'll let you know that there's the twist pump, and that's kind of appealing to me too. (1:23:10) And the Eversense is supposed to be able to link up to the twist pump eventually, so that's an option.
Connor (1:23:16) But the another thing is, like, I love how the Dexcom has direct to Apple Watch. (1:23:24) So, you know, like, I just got an Apple Watch, like, a couple months ago, and that's super nice because, like, you know, you just gotta look at your wrist and you can see your blood sugar, and I can look at the graph. (1:23:37) And that and that's the major thing with me is, like, I can see the trend of where my blood sugar's going and, you know, your pump it, it will, like, suspend your insulin or whatever. (1:23:51) Like, it can it can make the guesses or whatnot, but I know I know what I'm gonna be doing in the future. (1:23:57) Like, I know if I'm going on a walk or I'm gonna do an operation at work and my blood sugar will probably go low because I'm gonna be active or stuff like that.
Connor (1:24:06) So I know that, like, oh, it looks like it's kinda trending down a little bit. (1:24:10) I should probably, you know, do a temp basal of, like, 50 or 20% or whatever it is. (1:24:18) So it's really nice to be able to, like, just glance at my watch, see see how, how my blood sugar is. (1:24:25) And I don't know I don't know if there's I I know you can have watch settings on other devices, but I don't know if it's, like, as real time. (1:24:39) Like, I know that g seven, it's real time.
Connor (1:24:42) But I either way, like, I would love to have the Eversense because it's just, like, I'm not gonna have the issues of of, you know, the sweat and the stuff that's gonna make The
Scott Benner (1:24:55) stuff about CGMs you don't like. (1:24:56) Yeah.
Connor (1:24:57) Yeah. (1:24:57) On top of that, like, I get a lot of, like, the pressure loads and stuff like that. (1:25:04) Like
Scott Benner (1:25:05) Compression.
Connor (1:25:05) But, I mean, all that, yeah, all that stuff is just, like, I deal with it.
Scott Benner (1:25:10) Be nice to it.
Connor (1:25:11) Yeah. (1:25:12) But I would yeah. (1:25:14) Well, May may
Scott Benner (1:25:15) Connor, listen to this. (1:25:16) This is a press release from September 2025. (1:25:20) I'm just gonna, like, jump around it for half a second here. (1:25:23) CGM commercial operations to transition from Ascensia diabetes care to Senseonics. (1:25:29) Brian Hansen to be appointed chief commercial officer.
Scott Benner (1:25:33) Looks like they pulled some money together, but here's the gist of it. (1:25:36) Since 2020, Ascensia has held the exclusive worldwide distribution rights for Eversense products, including Eversense three sixty five. (1:25:44) Under the terms of the memorandum of understanding, Senseonics would assume responsibility for all global sales, marketing, and commercial in The US beginning 01/01/2026, blah blah blah. (1:25:56) Here's the part you might like. (1:25:57) Brian Hansen, president of CGM at Asensia since February 24, who is formerly the chief commercial officer at Tandem, will join Senseonics as the chief commercial officer in January.
Scott Benner (1:26:10) So it sounds like somebody is gonna be working at Senseonics. (1:26:14) They're take they're taking back over control of Eversense. (1:26:18) These are pretty broad terms, but this guy's got a connection at Tandem. (1:26:21) So maybe that'll help you. (1:26:23) May maybe that'll
Connor (1:26:23) help hope he had a good relationship and left in good terms. (1:26:26) Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:26:27) I guess I hadn't thought about that. (1:26:28) But, yeah. (1:26:29) And I will, probably have the opportunity to ask them about it in the coming months. (1:26:33) So I'll ask.
Connor (1:26:34) Yeah. (1:26:35) That'd be great. (1:26:36) Yeah. (1:26:37) Because I would love to I mean, it would be so nice just to have something that, like, I didn't have to worry about bumping into things. (1:26:46) And if I do, you just, you know, slap it right back on, and you don't have to worry about the accuracy or whatnot.
Scott Benner (1:26:50) Hey. (1:26:51) The the next line of this, by the way, says, as awareness of Eversense continues to grow with the momentum of the Eversense March, I'd just like to say to that, you're welcome. (1:27:01) I mean, that's good news. (1:27:04) Yeah. (1:27:04) I I feel like I've had a little bit to do with the, the understanding of Eversense, being, how did they put it here, growing.
Connor (1:27:11) Yeah. (1:27:12) Yeah. (1:27:12) Absolutely. (1:27:13) Yeah. (1:27:13) I'd never I'd never really heard of I mean, I hadn't heard of Eversense until I started listening to the podcast and, you know, doing my research and stuff.
Connor (1:27:23) And, man, yeah, like, I've learned a lot about it, and it's it's really interesting to me. (1:27:30) I just you know, it's kinda hard to to I guess if Eversense is like, oh, yeah. (1:27:36) You you wanna just try it? (1:27:37) And I I I would wear two CGMs just because
Scott Benner (1:27:40) Give it a shot.
Connor (1:27:41) But, like, I'm not gonna go out
Scott Benner (1:27:43) and Connor, the thing I really heard is that Eversense should buy more ads in 2026. (1:27:47) Is that what you're saying, really?
Connor (1:27:49) Yes. (1:27:49) Absolutely. (1:27:50) Okay. (1:27:50) Hey. (1:27:50) They should because, like yeah.
Connor (1:27:52) I don't know. (1:27:53) You know, get more people aware of it. (1:27:56) And That's
Scott Benner (1:27:56) why you know about it. (1:27:57) Right?
Connor (1:27:58) Yeah. (1:27:58) Right on. (1:28:00) Yeah. (1:28:00) Yeah. (1:28:01) And, hopefully, they they get it to link up to them With the tandem.
Scott Benner (1:28:04) And all the other stuff. (1:28:06) Hey. (1:28:06) I like this. (1:28:07) I like I like how our conversation has gone. (1:28:09) A couple of quick questions at the end here.
Scott Benner (1:28:12) Yep. (1:28:12) They're not to do with diabetes, so I'm just interested. (1:28:15) Do you ever have to draw your gun at work? (1:28:23) This is episode seventeen forty nine. (1:28:25) If you want to hear Connor's answer to that question and a few other stories about being a police officer, they're in episode 750.
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Scott Benner (1:29:09) There are links in the show notes and links at juiceboxpodcast.com. (1:29:19) My diabetes pro tip series is about cutting through the clutter of diabetes management to give you the straightforward practical insights that truly make a difference. (1:29:28) This series is all about mastering the fundamentals, whether it's the basics of insulin, dosing adjustments, or everyday management strategies that will empower you to take control. (1:29:38) I'm joined by Jenny Smith, who is a diabetes educator with over thirty five years of personal experience, and we break down complex concepts into simple actionable tips. (1:29:48) The diabetes pro tip series runs between episode one thousand and one thousand twenty five in your podcast player, or you can listen to it at juiceboxpodcast.com by going up into the menu.
Scott Benner (1:30:05) Okay. (1:30:05) Well, here we are at the end of the episode. (1:30:07) You're still with me? (1:30:08) Thank you. (1:30:09) I really do appreciate that.
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