#1784 Someone Peed in My Bed
You can always listen to the Juicebox Podcast here but the cool kids use: Apple Podcasts/iOS - Spotify - Amazon Music - Google Play/Android - iHeart Radio - Radio Public, Amazon Alexa or wherever they get audio.
Britney discusses her son’s T1D diagnosis, the importance of flexible insulin management, and using Trio. Plus, Scott unveils new calculators for baseline insulin settings and the Warsaw method.
+ Click for EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
DISCLAIMER: This text is the output of AI based transcribing from an audio recording. Although the transcription is largely accurate, in some cases it is incomplete or inaccurate due to inaudible passages or transcription errors and should not be treated as an authoritative record. Nothing that you read here constitutes advice medical or otherwise. Always consult with a healthcare professional before making changes to a healthcare plan.
Scott Benner (0:0) Welcome back, friends. (0:01) You are listening to the Juice Box podcast.
Britney (0:11) Hi. (0:11) My name is Britney. (0:12) I am the mom of an eight year old who has type one diabetes.
Scott Benner (0:17) How would you like to share a type one diabetes getaway like no other? (0:21) Join me on Juice Cruise twenty twenty six. (0:24) You may be asking, what is Juice Cruise? (0:26) It's a week long cruise designed specifically for people and families living with type one diabetes. (0:31) It's not just a vacation.
Scott Benner (0:33) It's a chance to relax, connect, and feel understood in a way that is hard to find elsewhere. (0:38) We're gonna sail out of Miami, and the cruise includes stops in CocoCay, San Juan, Saint Kitts, Nevis aboard the stunning Celebrity Beyond. (0:47) This ship is chosen for its comfort, accessibility, and exceptional amenities. (0:53) You're gonna enjoy a welcoming environment surrounded by others who get life with type one diabetes. (0:58) I'm gonna host diabetes focused conversations and meetups on the days at sea.
Scott Benner (1:03) There's thoughtfully designed spaces, incredible dining, and modern amenities all throughout the celebrity beyond. (1:11) Your kids can be supervised and there's teen programs so everyone gets time to recharge. (1:16) Not just the the kids going on vacation, but maybe you get the kickback a little bit too. (1:20) There's gonna be zero judgment, real connections, a whole lot of sun and fun on Juice Cruise twenty twenty six. (1:26) Please come with me.
Scott Benner (1:28) You're going to have a terrific time. (1:30) You can learn more or set up your deposit at juiceboxpodcast.com/juicecruise. (1:35) Get ahold of Suzanne at cruise planners. (1:38) She will take care of everything. (1:39) Links in the show notes.
Scott Benner (1:40) Links at juiceboxpodcast.com. (1:43) Nothing you hear on the juice box podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. (1:48) Always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan. (1:53) The episode you're about to enjoy was brought to you by Dexcom, the Dexcom g seven, the same CGM that my daughter wears. (2:01) You can learn more and get started today at my link, dexcom.com/juicebox.
Scott Benner (2:07) Today's episode is also sponsored by Cozy Earth. (2:11) You can use my offer code juice box at checkout to save 20% off of your entire order at cozyearth.com. (2:20) Everything from the joggers that I'm actually wearing right now to the sheets I sleep on, the towels I use to dry myself with, and whatever else is available at cozyearth.com. (2:31) Just use the offer code juice box at checkout. (2:34) The podcast is also sponsored today by the Omnipod five.
Scott Benner (2:38) And at my link, omnipod.com/juicebox, you can get yourself a free what'd I just say? (2:45) A free Omnipod five starter kit. (2:48) Free? (2:49) Get out of here. (2:50) Go click on that link.
Scott Benner (2:51) Omnipod.com/juicebox. (2:54) Check it out. (2:54) Terms and conditions apply. (2:56) Eligibility may vary. (2:57) Full terms and conditions can be found at omnipod.com/juicebox.
Scott Benner (3:02) Links in the show notes. (3:03) Links at juiceboxpodcast.com.
Britney (3:06) Hi. (3:07) My name is Britney. (3:08) I am the mom of an eight year old who has type one diabetes.
Scott Benner (3:12) Good morning, Britney. (3:13) How are you?
Britney (3:14) I'm doing well. (3:15) How are you?
Scott Benner (3:16) You know, honestly, fantastic.
Britney (3:18) That's great.
Scott Benner (3:19) Yeah. (3:20) You know? (3:20) Seriously. (3:21) I don't know how it gets better to be perfectly honest with you.
Britney (3:24) Well, you don't have COVID.
Scott Benner (3:25) So I shook the COVID in, thirty six hours. (3:28) Like, it was nothing. (3:29) Couldn't stick to me. (3:30) Maybe made my nose a little drippy. (3:31) That was pretty well.
Scott Benner (3:32) That's not true. (3:32) I had a I got a little woozy there once, but I was okay. (3:35) Little yeah. (3:36) Head pressure. (3:37) You know what I'm talking about.
Scott Benner (3:38) Yeah. (3:38) But I got through it pretty fast. (3:40) What I was talking about more is it's the holidays. (3:43) I had a nice holiday season. (3:44) The family was around.
Scott Benner (3:45) I got a nice year coming up, planned. (3:48) Hopefully, things go pretty well. (3:49) I've buttoned up a lot of things with my health, so I'm feeling in tip top shape. (3:53) And I, I make a podcast, so my life is not what I would call taxing by standard, standard measurements. (4:01) So, yeah, I'm doing okay.
Britney (4:01) Yeah. (4:02) That's great.
Scott Benner (4:03) Took me a long time to get in this position. (4:06) For all
Britney (4:06) you And now you're here.
Scott Benner (4:07) Yeah. (4:07) For all of you who are like, you know, I work hard. (4:10) I wanna tell you about the time, in my life for four years when I got up at 05:00 in the morning to drive to my job in a sheet metal shop where I made $4.50 an hour and had to ride a motorcycle because I couldn't afford car insurance, and that was even in the winter. (4:25) So I put my time in. (4:27) Alright?
Scott Benner (4:27) Now Scott's gonna put his feet up and make this podcast. (4:30) Everyone else calm down. (4:31) Stop complain I'm already imagining people complaining to me. (4:36) Britney, why why you wanna come on a podcast and make the chitchat? (4:39) What's going on?
Scott Benner (4:41) Well,
Britney (4:42) I really love the podcast, and I would say it's probably the most helpful thing that I've encountered since my son's diagnosis. (4:49) And not that I have anything groundbreaking to say, I don't think, but I really love listening to everyone else's stories, and maybe someone will like listening to mine is what I'm hopeful for.
Scott Benner (5:00) Brittany, that's awesome. (5:01) Also, I don't know that you won't say something groundbreaking, and don't tell them that upfront. (5:05) They might switch off to another one. (5:07) You know what I mean?
Britney (5:07) Yeah. (5:08) I have some really big news. (5:09) How about we'll go with that?
Scott Benner (5:10) Yeah. (5:11) Britney has the secret to what? (5:14) Painless periods. (5:15) Right, Britney?
Britney (5:16) Yeah. (5:16) Yeah. (5:16) I do. (5:17) I don't have painful periods, so that's great.
Scott Benner (5:19) And we're gonna talk about that right after the ads. (5:24) So how old was it? (5:25) Was it your daughter? (5:26) I'm sorry.
Britney (5:27) My son.
Scott Benner (5:27) Son.
Britney (5:28) So my son yep. (5:30) He's eight year olds now, and he was diagnosed when he was seven and a half, so November 2024.
Scott Benner (5:36) Very fresh.
Britney (5:37) Yeah. (5:37) Just over a year ago, and it's been kind of a wild ride.
Scott Benner (5:41) Other kids?
Britney (5:43) I have an older son who is 11.
Scott Benner (5:45) Is there a boy you're allowed to live in the house with you?
Britney (5:47) Yes. (5:48) I'm married and have been for, I I don't know, like, years, I think.
Scott Benner (5:52) I don't know, like, thirteen years, I think.
Britney (5:55) I think. (5:56) I I don't know. (5:56) It's 2013, so I guess we're coming up on thirteen years.
Scott Benner (5:59) You think he hears that and he thinks, awesome. (6:01) That's awesome.
Britney (6:02) He has no idea
Scott Benner (6:03) Oh, you don't think we've been married. (6:04) Oh, really?
Britney (6:05) No. (6:06) Would you get Absolutely not.
Scott Benner (6:07) Which one of the boys did you get? (6:08) Did you get the, the sweet ones with the facial hair? (6:10) Did you get the one that can throw a ball real far and make money? (6:14) Did you get the one who's dirty all the time, but somehow, like, gets everything accomplished? (6:18) Which one did you get?
Britney (6:19) I think the third. (6:20) He's, like, dirty all the time. (6:21) He get he gets things done. (6:23) He's very tall, so that's kinda great.
Scott Benner (6:25) Is that what got you, the tall?
Britney (6:27) I think so.
Scott Benner (6:28) Do you ever look back and think, I had so many more, like, feelings about my my intellect, what I what I what would get me. (6:37) And you're like, you one day, you just look up and go, boy, that boy's tall. (6:40) Yeah. (6:40) Yeah.
Britney (6:41) That's what I was going for. (6:42) So
Scott Benner (6:43) I looked at Kelly, and I was like, her hip to waist ratio is awesome. (6:47) Let's go. (6:51) Oh, since then, I've learned other stuff about her that I like. (6:54) I just
Britney (6:54) Yeah. (6:55) I've learned other things about my husband that I like too, so that's great.
Scott Benner (6:58) Is one of them that he makes babies with diabetes?
Britney (7:01) Yeah. (7:01) Turns out he has a lot of autoimmune in his family, and I didn't really think much of that until recently.
Scott Benner (7:07) You didn't bring that up on the first date, I bet.
Britney (7:10) No. (7:10) No. (7:10) Definitely not.
Scott Benner (7:11) Can I make a guess? (7:13) Let me just guess. (7:14) Okay. (7:15) I propose nothing. (7:16) Let's think.
Scott Benner (7:17) Well, his mom definitely has Hashimoto's.
Britney (7:20) I don't I don't think so.
Scott Benner (7:22) Well lupus?
Britney (7:23) You know, she had something with her thyroid, but I don't know if it was Hashimoto's.
Scott Benner (7:26) Oh, so I got thyroid. (7:28) You how can you take that point for me? (7:29) That was crazy, Britney.
Britney (7:31) Okay. (7:31) Fine. (7:31) You can have that.
Scott Benner (7:32) Alright. (7:32) Alright. (7:33) Let's see. (7:33) We have a cousin once removed with celiac, maybe type one, and a lot of people are anxious.
Britney (7:43) There is no type one, but there are a few cousins with celiac, a cousin with MS, and then his dad, before he passed away, was diagnosed with myasthenia gravis.
Scott Benner (7:54) What now?
Britney (7:55) Myasthenia gravis. (7:57) I I don't really know what it is.
Scott Benner (7:59) That makes two of us.
Britney (8:00) But I I know it's autoimmune.
Scott Benner (8:02) Alright. (8:03) Well, we'll try to figure that out. (8:04) Nobody's anxious? (8:05) Bit of anxiety all over the place?
Britney (8:07) I mean, yes. (8:09) But, like, nothing diagnosed that I'm aware of. (8:12) But I don't know if everyone's going around letting everyone know they're diagnosed with anxiety.
Scott Benner (8:16) Yeah. (8:16) I mean but you can see it at Christmas is what you're saying.
Britney (8:19) Yeah. (8:20) A little bit.
Scott Benner (8:20) They used to call it type a.
Britney (8:23) Yeah. (8:24) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (8:25) MG is a chronic autoimmune neuromuscular disease that causes muscle weakness that worsens with activity and improves with rest. (8:32) So that doesn't set you up for a fun life. (8:35) What's actually going wrong? (8:36) Your immune system makes antibodies that interfere with communication between nerves and muscles, specifically at the neuromuscular junction. (8:44) The signal gets weaker, so muscles tire out quickly.
Scott Benner (8:47) Common symptoms would be drooping eyelids, double vision, slurred or nasal speech, trouble chewing or swallowing, weakness in arms, legs, neck, fatigue that gets worse as the day goes on. (8:57) Jeez. (8:58) What makes it Yeah. (8:59) Better or worse? (9:00) Exertion, illness, stress, heat, certain medications make it worse, better rest, sleep, proper treatment.
Britney (9:07) Right.
Scott Benner (9:07) How old was he when he passed?
Britney (9:10) Like, 75, I think. (9:12) And I think he was diagnosed at 74. (9:14) So it wasn't a long run with it, or maybe it was he had it going on and it wasn't diagnosed till later. (9:20) I don't really know.
Scott Benner (9:21) Yeah. (9:21) Do you have any idea if it impacted his life?
Britney (9:24) Yes. (9:24) Yeah. (9:25) I don't know exactly how. (9:27) We weren't super close with his dad, but
Scott Benner (9:30) How could you be the guy who was resting?
Britney (9:33) Yes. (9:33) He was resting a lot.
Scott Benner (9:35) Okay. (9:36) So that's all happening. (9:37) Now you make these babies. (9:38) Everything's going along pretty well for a while. (9:40) But then what happens?
Scott Benner (9:41) How do you notice the situation, and what steps do you take afterwards?
Britney (9:45) I guess we started noticing things a month prior to his diagnosis. (9:49) The first thing was my husband wanted to get rid of our cat because he thought that the cat was peeing on the floor in my son's room. (9:58) And it was happening a few times throughout a couple different weeks, and we finally came to realize that although he still wanted to get rid of the cat, it wasn't the cat's fault, and my son was waking up in the middle of the night thinking he was going to the bathroom and peeing on the new carpet in his room.
Scott Benner (10:16) Here's the question. (10:17) How big is the cat?
Britney (10:18) I mean, he was pretty big. (10:19) He's since passed away too. (10:21) But
Scott Benner (10:22) Oh, are we making air quotes around passed away? (10:24) Because it sounds like your husband wanted to get rid of this cat.
Britney (10:26) I mean, he really did pass away. (10:28) It was unfortunate, but the cat was pretty big, and it wasn't always a ton of pee that was on the floor. (10:34) Oh. (10:34) But there was enough where, like, I would notice it in the morning and run upstairs with the little green machine and clean it before my husband noticed because I didn't want him to get pissed about the cat. (10:44) So
Scott Benner (10:45) You're the lawyer for the cat. (10:46) You're like, we gotta fix this crime scene up so our guy doesn't take the fall here. (10:51) Yeah. (10:51) Because who would think that your kid's popping out of bed, whipping it out, and peeing on his rug?
Britney (10:56) Yeah. (10:56) Yeah. (10:56) I mean, we're like, there's no way. (10:58) And then one night, Henry, my son, came down into our bed, and he's like, somebody peed on my bed while I was sleeping.
Scott Benner (11:05) Mhmm. (11:06) That's what I just said too.
Britney (11:07) Oh, I'm like, okay. (11:09) I think that maybe it's you. (11:11) So, you this know, is kind of early in the school year. (11:13) We're like, maybe he's stressed out. (11:15) You know?
Britney (11:16) I don't know what's going on. (11:17) We went down to Boston for a Bruins game, and he was drinking tons of water. (11:24) My husband said, I think maybe he has diabetes. (11:27) And I said, like, you. (11:28) He doesn't have diabetes.
Britney (11:30) And he's like, well, you feed him so many sweets. (11:32) And I was just really offended.
Scott Benner (11:33) Oh my god. (11:35) Jesus. (11:36) Yeah. (11:37) You guys were all revved up from the game.
Britney (11:40) No. (11:40) It was ridiculous.
Scott Benner (11:41) Hitting each other into the metaphorical boards talking about the where did the diabetes thing pop into your husband's head from? (11:46) Because he went from did he say, I think he has diabetes and we're still getting rid of the cat?
Britney (11:51) Yeah. (11:51) I mean, like, we've moved on from the cat at this point. (11:53) We're like, okay. (11:54) He's stressed at school or something, and that's why he's peeing on the floor. (11:58) I don't know.
Britney (11:58) But when he said that he thinks he has diabetes and and kind of, like, said it was because I have a sweet tooth and passed it along to them, I was pretty pissed. (12:09) And then I remember being in the car on the ride home from Boston, we stopped, like, eight different times. (12:14) And so I was using I was new to ChadGBT, so I started using it, and I'm like, you know, increase urination, increase thirst, but not type one diabetes because I was like, there's no way he has diabetes. (12:25) So I'm like, oh, he has overactive bladder or a urinary tract infection, but definitely not diabetes. (12:31) I should know better because I am a nurse, but I didn't know better.
Britney (12:36) Mhmm. (12:36) And then we went to the doctor's office because I'm like, okay. (12:40) We'll, you know, we'll bring him in, and they'll probably give him meds for a UTI. (12:45) And the first thing they did was add a blood sugar, and the tech didn't say anything. (12:51) I said, oh, well, what was it?
Britney (12:53) Like, of course, it's gonna be normal. (12:54) He said, oh, 538. (12:57) And that's when I knew, like, okay. (12:58) This is diabetes. (13:00) Although I still wasn't totally sold on that fact.
Britney (13:03) And when the doctor came into the room to say that's what it was, I said, well, what's your differential? (13:08) Clearly cannot be diabetes. (13:10) And she's like, there is no differential. (13:12) He has type one diabetes.
Scott Benner (13:15) Well, you prefer chocolate or sugary sugary candy? (13:17) Which like, you like a nerd or a m and m? (13:20) What's your preference?
Britney (13:21) I like both all the time.
Scott Benner (13:23) He's like, listen. (13:25) I gotta tell you. (13:26) One hand has the nerds. (13:27) The other hand has the m and m's. (13:28) We go back and forth.
Britney (13:29) We really do go back and forth. (13:31) Like, sometimes I have M and M's with the side of pretzels because I like to eat them, like, sweet and salty.
Scott Benner (13:35) And Oh, I see. (13:37) Yeah. (13:37) Tell your husband from me that he's lucky that you're such a lovely person because if if my if my if I would have said that to my wife, she would have said, I I wonder how you're gonna enjoy living above a pizza place and sending us half your money for the rest of your life.
Britney (13:51) Right. (13:51) I mean, I was having those feelings.
Scott Benner (13:54) So yeah. (13:56) Oh my gosh. (13:57) Well okay. (13:58) Did he he didn't rub it in, though. (14:00) Right?
Britney (14:01) No. (14:01) Not Okay. (14:02) Not at all.
Scott Benner (14:03) He wasn't in the doctor's office, like, looking at you. (14:05) He just put his finger on his nose and eyeball on you. (14:07) Right? (14:07) Like, knew it.
Britney (14:08) No. (14:08) No. (14:09) It's definitely not.
Scott Benner (14:10) Does he understand since then that someone's sweet tooth doesn't have anything to do with their type one diagnosis?
Britney (14:15) Oh, yeah. (14:16) Without a doubt. (14:17) Like, I mean, I hammered it home to him and us did the doctors and yeah. (14:22) I was like, this is nothing. (14:23) This is not my fault.
Britney (14:25) It's not his fault. (14:25) It's nobody's fault. (14:26) Like, maybe it's all the autoimmune on your family's side, but whatever.
Scott Benner (14:30) When you say hammered at home, was it day 87 of no sex where he figured it out or where where exact
Britney (14:36) Yeah. (14:37) Like, right in the hospital. (14:38) Like, because we got admitted right to the hospital from there
Scott Benner (14:40) Okay.
Britney (14:41) From that doctor's appointment. (14:42) But, you know, he wasn't in DKA or anything, which was great. (14:45) So we had, you know, just a quick stay and a lot of somewhat okay education at the time.
Scott Benner (14:51) Mhmm.
Britney (14:51) And then we went home.
Scott Benner (14:53) That's just a handful of months ago.
Britney (14:56) Yeah. (14:57) I mean, a year and three months ago, I guess.
Scott Benner (15:00) Replaced the carpet or no?
Britney (15:02) No. (15:02) It was brand new.
Scott Benner (15:04) Pragmatic. (15:04) I like that. (15:05) You're like, hey. (15:05) We cleaned it. (15:06) It's fine.
Britney (15:07) We did. (15:07) I I think it it I think it is fine.
Scott Benner (15:09) Alright. (15:09) I wanna find out about the rest of this. (15:11) But first, if I don't ask this, it's gonna stick in my head. (15:13) What killed the cat? (15:16) Today's episode is brought to you by Omnipod.
Scott Benner (15:19) Did you know that the majority of Omnipod five users pay less than $30 per month at the pharmacy? (15:25) That's less than $1 a day for tube free automated insulin delivery. (15:29) And a third of Omnipod five users pay $0 per month. (15:33) You heard that right. (15:34) 0.
Scott Benner (15:35) That's less than your daily coffee for all of the benefits of tubeless, waterproof, automated insulin delivery. (15:41) My daughter has been wearing an Omnipod every day since she was four years old, and she's about to be 21. (15:47) My family relies on Omnipod, and I think you'll love it. (15:51) And you can try it for free right now by requesting your free starter kit today at my link, omnipod.com/juicebox. (15:59) Omnipod has been an advertiser for a decade.
Scott Benner (16:01) But even if they weren't, I would tell you proudly, my daughter wears an omnipod. (16:05) Omnipod.com/juicebox. (16:08) Terms and conditions apply. (16:10) Eligibility may vary. (16:11) Why don't you get yourself that free starter kit?
Scott Benner (16:13) Full terms and conditions can be found @omnipod.comslashjuicebox. (16:19) The Dexcom g seven is sponsoring this episode of the juice box podcast, and it features a lightning fast thirty minute warm up time. (16:27) That's right. (16:27) From the time you put on the Dexcom g seven till the time you're getting readings, thirty minutes. (16:33) That's pretty great.
Scott Benner (16:34) It also has a twelve hour grace period, so you can swap your sensor when it's convenient for you. (16:40) All that on top of it being small, accurate, incredibly wearable, and light, these things, in my opinion, make the Dexcom g seven a no brainer. (16:49) The Dexcom g seven comes with way more than just this. (16:53) Up to 10 people can follow you. (16:55) You can use it with type one, type two, or gestational diabetes.
Scott Benner (16:58) It's covered by all sorts of insurances and, this might be the best part. (17:04) It might be the best part. (17:05) Alerts and alarms that are customizable so that you can be alerted at the levels that make sense to you. (17:12) Dexcom.com/juicebox. (17:15) Links in the show notes.
Scott Benner (17:16) Links at juiceboxpodcast.com to Dexcom and all of the sponsors. (17:20) When you use my links, you're supporting the production of the podcast and helping to keep it free and plentiful.
Britney (17:26) Oh, god. (17:27) I don't know. (17:28) We brought him into the vet because he wasn't really eating or drinking, and he had it's not constipation. (17:34) It was called obstipation, I believe. (17:37) So, like, super impacted some re for some reason.
Britney (17:40) And they said that we could do, like, a big expensive surgery that's 2,000 to $5,000, but he's probably gonna need it again in the future. (17:48) And so we said, what is the cost to put him down?
Scott Benner (17:52) Or here's the different question. (17:54) And for those of you out here who are like, I would have done this surgery.
Britney (17:58) Yeah. (17:58) You're better people than me.
Scott Benner (17:59) Yeah. (17:59) Yeah. (17:59) Congratulations. (18:01) Right. (18:04) Britney's got a sofa she's got her eye on.
Scott Benner (18:05) Okay? (18:06) Like, just Yeah. (18:07) Decisions had to be made. (18:09) Okay. (18:09) Well, I'm so I'm so sorry about this.
Scott Benner (18:10) That is really terrible, except for your husband who apparently hated the cat anyway. (18:13) So it doesn't really matter.
Britney (18:14) Yeah. (18:15) I mean, he he kinda loved him, but whatever.
Scott Benner (18:17) Yeah. (18:17) Look. (18:18) So you you know, he's diagnosed. (18:20) This is all happening. (18:21) He's not in DKA, which is awesome.
Scott Benner (18:23) She's probably not in the hospital too long. (18:25) Mhmm. (18:25) But then you said you're a nurse. (18:27) What kind of nurse are you?
Britney (18:28) Well, for the past ten years, I've just dealt with workers' comp, but I've worked from home. (18:32) So, like a paperwork nurse, I guess. (18:35) Oh. (18:36) But prior to that, I was an ICU nurse.
Scott Benner (18:39) Okay. (18:40) How long?
Britney (18:40) Yeah. (18:41) Only a few years. (18:42) Like like, four years, I guess.
Scott Benner (18:43) You should have said about as long as people tend to be able to take it, Scott. (18:46) About four years, and then they get the hell out of there. (18:48) Yeah. (18:49) Except for the junkies. (18:50) Right?
Scott Benner (18:50) The, the adrenaline junkies, they stay.
Britney (18:52) Yeah. (18:53) I don't get that.
Scott Benner (18:53) Yeah. (18:54) So okay. (18:55) So okay. (18:55) You've got a background. (18:56) You've got an education and everything.
Scott Benner (18:58) Does that help you in the beginning? (19:01) You said you got pretty good direction, but how do you figure out that the direction is not everything you need? (19:06) What's that whole time look like?
Britney (19:08) Well, I would say I wasn't really set up for managing type one diabetes. (19:15) I didn't even know it was autoimmune until we were diagnosed, which maybe that's embarrassing to say because I'm a nurse, but that's me being honest. (19:24) I did not know type one was autoimmune. (19:26) My experience with diabetes in the ICU was doing finger sticks, sliding scale insulin. (19:32) I had a few people on insulin drips, but I didn't have much experience with it at
Scott Benner (19:36) all. (19:37) Okay.
Britney (19:37) Yeah. (19:38) So, you know, going home, we have the do not die advice, and it was okay. (19:44) I mean, we we left the hospital without a CGM but got one the next day when we came back for an appointment.
Scott Benner (19:50) Through research or through the the hospital suggesting it?
Britney (19:53) Through the hospital suggesting it. (19:55) So I guess it helped that I was a nurse, they were like, you know how to do an insulin injection. (19:59) You know how to do a blood sugar. (20:00) Go home, and tomorrow, you're coming back for your first appointment with the endocrinologist. (20:05) And at that appointment, we got the CGM.
Scott Benner (20:07) How did Henry accept what was happening?
Britney (20:09) He was really sad about it. (20:10) Sorry.
Scott Benner (20:11) Oh, I'm sorry. (20:12) I didn't mean to make you cry.
Britney (20:13) No. (20:13) It's okay.
Scott Benner (20:14) You wanna talk about the dead cat some more? (20:16) No. (20:17) No? (20:17) Okay. (20:17) Alright.
Britney (20:18) Henry, he was okay with it, but he was like, okay. (20:22) So I have to do a few shots and then it's gonna go away. (20:25) And I think the forever thing was really hard.
Scott Benner (20:28) Yeah. (20:29) For him or for you?
Britney (20:31) For both of us.
Scott Benner (20:32) Yeah. (20:33) It's okay. (20:33) How are you doing? (20:34) Are are you okay? (20:35) Like, I mean, day to day, or is it still friends, I just placed my order at cozyearth.com.
Scott Benner (20:42) They're today's sponsor, and I'm here to tell you about them. (20:44) Use my offer code juice box at checkout when you buy, and you'll save 20% off of your entire order. (20:50) That's everything in your cart at cozyearth.com. (20:53) Save 20% with the offer code juice box. (20:56) Now why am I excited?
Scott Benner (20:58) Well, I just ordered the Cozy Earth blanket. (21:01) It's the viscose bamboo blanket. (21:04) I'm super excited about it. (21:06) It looks comfy as can be, and it's gonna go so well with the sheets that we already have from Cozy Earth. (21:11) Now, yeah, I'm a bit of a a Cozy Earth convert, I guess.
Scott Benner (21:15) I'm sitting here in my joggers. (21:17) I used my towels coming out of the shower this morning. (21:19) I slept on my sheets last night. (21:21) Slept like a baby, by the way. (21:23) Cozyearth.com.
Scott Benner (21:25) Pretty much have everything you want. (21:27) Use the offer code juice box to save 20% at checkout on skin care, women's and men's clothing, bath and sleeping accessories. (21:35) And don't forget, Valentine's Day is coming up quickly. (21:38) Get those pajamas. (21:40) Cozyearth.com.
Scott Benner (21:41) Use the offer code juice box at checkout to save 20% off of your entire order.
Britney (21:46) Yes. (21:47) I am. (21:48) I don't know why I'm crying. (21:49) I guess sometimes I cry really easily, but yeah. (21:52) Sorry.
Scott Benner (21:52) Alright. (21:52) Don't be sorry.
Britney (21:53) I'm good. (21:54) Don't listen.
Scott Benner (21:55) You shouldn't you should Britney, you shouldn't feel sorry about that. (21:58) It's I mean, I could tell you any number of a thousand stories and make me start crying right now. (22:02) Don't worry about it.
Britney (22:03) Right. (22:03) Yeah. (22:04) I mean, I cry all the time when I listen to the podcast. (22:06) I like the silly things, happy things. (22:09) But
Scott Benner (22:09) yes. (22:10) Somebody told me once that the tagline for the podcast should be making women online cry or making women cry online. (22:16) And I was like, I don't think that sounds good. (22:19) Apparently, it's, one of the byproducts of what I do here.
Britney (22:23) Yeah.
Scott Benner (22:23) Yeah. (22:24) Yeah. (22:24) But it's all. (22:25) Like, you know, things happen. (22:26) You hear stuff that's similar to your story or brings up emotions, and you you know, it's sad.
Scott Benner (22:31) It just it really is. (22:32) Do you think he's as sad as you are right now? (22:34) If he heard that story, would it make him feel the same way?
Britney (22:38) I don't think so. (22:39) I think in the beginning, yes. (22:41) Like, he would look at pictures on my phone and be like, oh, that was before when I didn't have diabetes, and now pictures after that point in time or when I do have diabetes, and he used to get really sad about that. (22:52) Mhmm. (22:52) He's, like, fairly accepting of it now.
Britney (22:55) Sometimes it's harder than other times. (22:58) Like, last week, we had an upper endoscopy to see if we have a celiac diagnosis, and he's pretty stressed out about that now.
Scott Benner (23:06) Oh, the possibility of the diagnosis?
Britney (23:09) Yeah. (23:09) Which I think is probably pretty likely, but we don't know yet. (23:13) So we are eating all the gluten for the time being.
Scott Benner (23:17) What is happening that's that that made you get the the testing?
Britney (23:20) When he was first diagnosed, they drew the labs to test for that, and it was suggestive of it. (23:27) And then I put off really doing anything about it because he didn't have symptoms until his annual lab screening. (23:35) The numbers went down, but still suggestive, so they said we have to do an upper endoscopy. (23:40) That's what we've done so far. (23:41) He doesn't have any stomach issues.
Britney (23:46) I guess, occasionally, he does, but not really.
Scott Benner (23:48) Yeah. (23:49) Well, maybe he has something they call silent celiac.
Britney (23:52) Yeah. (23:53) I don't like that.
Scott Benner (23:53) But No. (23:54) I don't either. (23:55) I don't like it. (23:56) I don't like any of those. (23:57) No.
Scott Benner (23:58) Okay. (23:58) Well, I hope that that testing comes back positively for him in a way that, you know, keeps him from having to not eat bread anymore. (24:05) Because how's he gonna have a lobster roll when he goes to see the Bruins play? (24:08) You know what I mean?
Britney (24:09) I know. (24:09) I know. (24:10) Seriously. (24:11) But but then I'm like, if he's, this is probably gonna piss some people off. (24:17) I'm like, if he has no symptoms, maybe sometimes he will have a lobster roll, but I guess
Scott Benner (24:23) Oh, I listen. (24:24) I've learned my lesson about people with celiac. (24:26) Yeah. (24:26) I'm not saying that. (24:27) That's Britney.
Scott Benner (24:27) Go find her. (24:28) Yeah. (24:28) Leave me alone. (24:30) Yeah. (24:30) I
Britney (24:31) mean, I've done a lot of reading, and it's like, in some countries, if you don't have symptoms, they say it's, like, controversial to say, do a gluten free diet. (24:40) So
Scott Benner (24:41) I I don't know. (24:42) I I don't know. (24:42) I just one time suggested that maybe while a man was in the middle of a nervous breakdown about this, he could let his kid have a cupcake at a birthday party until he figures it out, and I got hammered. (24:52) So I'm not saying that at all.
Britney (24:54) Okay. (24:55) Yeah. (24:55) I am saying that.
Scott Benner (24:56) So Britney, go get her. (24:57) Leave me alone. (24:58) You're she's in Boston. (24:59) You can find her. (25:00) Go.
Scott Benner (25:00) Go.
Britney (25:01) Yeah. (25:02) Exactly.
Scott Benner (25:03) No. (25:03) Listen. (25:03) I I take your point. (25:05) You're in the middle of this new diagnosis here, you're you're trying to figure out, like, am I hurting something if I do this? (25:12) And I'm sure listen.
Scott Benner (25:13) I'm sure if someone comes back and says to you, look, you're whether his belly hurts or not, here's the damage, and here's what happens, you know, in the future if you keep doing this, I imagine you'll take that pretty seriously. (25:24) So I will.
Britney (25:25) Yeah. (25:25) Yeah.
Scott Benner (25:26) Yeah. (25:26) I I hear what you're saying. (25:28) Again, please do not email me about this. (25:30) Oh, god. (25:30) I such a passionate group of people, which, by the way, good for you guys.
Scott Benner (25:34) I like you're out there swinging for each other, but don't swing at me. (25:37) I didn't say Yeah. (25:38) How long will it take to get the results?
Britney (25:41) I think, like, sometime this week.
Scott Benner (25:42) Oh, gosh.
Britney (25:43) Yeah. (25:44) I'm just ignoring the I'm ignoring everything until I get an email or a phone call is how I'm approaching it.
Scott Benner (25:50) Do you think you don't have the bandwidth to get more news?
Britney (25:54) No. (25:55) I do. (25:57) He does. (25:57) I think my husband would really struggle with it, but I also think maybe my husband has celiac as well. (26:03) So Oh.
Britney (26:04) Maybe we could all go gluten free together if we have to.
Scott Benner (26:07) Hey. (26:07) Cut down on the toilet paper, Bill.
Britney (26:09) Yeah. (26:10) Why not? (26:10) There's there's a positive to look at it that way.
Scott Benner (26:12) Why do you think your husband has it too?
Britney (26:14) He has, like, constant stomach problems after he eats, and I just have a feeling that he probably has a touch of something too.
Scott Benner (26:22) Oh, I see. (26:23) Go out to the restaurant, gotta run home afterwards?
Britney (26:26) Yeah. (26:26) Something like that.
Scott Benner (26:27) Mhmm. (26:28) All you people out there who can hold your poop in, they don't know how lucky they are. (26:31) They go to the restaurant, then they go to the movie. (26:34) Yeah. (26:34) Like fancy people.
Scott Benner (26:35) They just keep moving around the world They
Britney (26:37) don't Right.
Scott Benner (26:38) Not looking for a toilet. (26:40) Yeah. (26:40) Well, listen. (26:41) Maybe because I've seen this with diabetes a lot. (26:44) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (26:45) Maybe you go to your husband and say, look. (26:47) You know how you're struggling with all this all the time? (26:49) That's gonna happen to him. (26:50) Like, we could present, you know, a better better example for him, maybe make his life better. (26:56) Wouldn't you wouldn't you like this not to be happening to you anymore?
Britney (26:59) Oh, yeah. (27:00) He's on board. (27:01) He told he told Henry, like, if you do have celiac and have to be gluten free, I'll do it with you.
Scott Benner (27:06) There you go. (27:06) So That's
Britney (27:07) the spirit. (27:08) He's a very good dad.
Scott Benner (27:09) Yeah. (27:10) Oh, that's awesome. (27:10) Yeah. (27:11) Henry, you ever call him Hank?
Britney (27:13) No. (27:14) No?
Scott Benner (27:14) Is it a family name?
Britney (27:16) No. (27:16) It's just like, guess, I like little old men names. (27:19) So
Scott Benner (27:19) Do you ever see, Goodfellas?
Britney (27:22) I have not.
Scott Benner (27:23) Don't watch that movie.
Britney (27:25) Okay.
Scott Benner (27:26) Because I think if you do, you're gonna start doing an impression of Joe Pesci saying Henry, and it's gonna ruin your life.
Britney (27:33) Yeah. (27:33) No. (27:33) Okay. (27:34) So I won't watch that.
Scott Benner (27:35) Don't. (27:35) You'll just run around going, Hendry. (27:37) Hendry. (27:37) And you're just gonna make you and you the kid's gonna be like, what is happening? (27:40) I got diabetes.
Scott Benner (27:41) Is this not bad enough? (27:42) Now the lady's losing her mind. (27:43) And, yeah. (27:44) Yeah. (27:44) Yeah.
Scott Benner (27:44) No. (27:44) Seriously, don't do that because every time I hear Henry, that's all I hear is Joe Pesci.
Britney (27:49) Sorry. (27:49) Okay. (27:50) I won't watch that.
Scott Benner (27:51) Yeah. (27:51) Also, maybe stop saying the name. (27:52) You're freaking me out. (27:53) Yeah. (27:53) But oh, my gosh.
Scott Benner (27:55) That's a lot. (27:56) So he's been sad in the past thinking of himself as as before and after. (28:02) You think that's getting better. (28:04) What about the other stuff? (28:06) How is he with the devices, the changes, that kind of thing?
Britney (28:09) He's really great about it. (28:11) I mean, he hates to take off his Dexcom, but we use, like, a solution that kinda dissolves the adhesive, and it will slide off after a little bit. (28:21) But he's really good about it. (28:22) He has the g seven, and then he has Omnipod Dash.
Scott Benner (28:27) Okay.
Britney (28:27) And he does awesome with it.
Scott Benner (28:28) Yeah. (28:29) Yeah. (28:29) He does does he play any sports?
Britney (28:31) He does. (28:32) He plays hockey. (28:33) He plays soccer, lacrosse. (28:35) He's a really active kid.
Scott Benner (28:37) Wow. (28:37) That's awesome. (28:37) And not having any trouble with all that?
Britney (28:40) No. (28:40) Yeah. (28:41) The devices are not in the way or noticeable to him, so it works out really well.
Scott Benner (28:45) Mhmm. (28:46) Do you think he's in any sort of a honeymoon? (28:48) Or is
Britney (28:48) He was until, I guess, from, like, November 2024 to February 2025. (28:56) He was definitely honeymooning, and then he had the flu. (28:59) And then he definitely came out of honeymoon after that is what I believe.
Scott Benner (29:04) Okay.
Britney (29:04) You know, he went from using, like, one point five units a day to six units a day to now, like, upwards of 15 to 20.
Scott Benner (29:13) Mhmm. (29:14) Are you I'm looking at your notes here. (29:15) They're really interesting. (29:16) But let me say this one thing, then I'm gonna dive into your notes. (29:19) Okay.
Scott Benner (29:19) I think you should be doing voice over for a living. (29:22) What is it you're are you Me? (29:23) Yeah. (29:24) My god. (29:24) If you feel like a, a reassuring slightly younger mother figure in an eighties movie.
Britney (29:33) Wow. (29:33) I've never liked my voice ever, so that makes me feel pretty good.
Scott Benner (29:38) Yeah. (29:38) That's insane. (29:39) Like, if you told me right now that I should, you know, be nicer to my brother and go clean my room, I feel like I would go do it.
Britney (29:46) Be nicer to your brother and go clean your room.
Scott Benner (29:48) I'm already so nice to them, though.
Britney (29:50) Yeah. (29:51) Okay. (29:51) Well, be nicer.
Scott Benner (29:52) And my room does need a cleaning. (29:53) How did you know? (29:54) Yeah. (29:55) Seriously, you have, like, such a lovely voice. (29:57) You don't know that?
Britney (29:59) No. (29:59) No. (30:00) In in fact, like, I feel like I'm pretty quiet around people because I don't like my voice so much.
Scott Benner (30:06) Brittany, you're making a huge mistake.
Britney (30:08) Okay. (30:08) Well, I'm gonna talk more then.
Scott Benner (30:10) Yeah. (30:10) No. (30:10) Do you have things to say that you don't say because you don't like your voice?
Britney (30:14) I don't know. (30:15) I think I think I'm just quiet overall, but that's because something I'm working on in 2026 is making I feel like I make myself small a lot, and I'm gonna make myself, like, less small and say what I want and say what I feel.
Scott Benner (30:30) That's awesome. (30:30) Do you have any idea why that happens?
Britney (30:32) No. (30:33) I don't. (30:33) No. (30:34) I mean, I have I have an inkling, and I I think like, it's nothing against my husband by any means, but he's ten years older than me. (30:41) So, like, when we started dating, everyone was you know, his friends that I would interact with were all older, and I always felt like I can't say things when I'm 22 and they're 32.
Britney (30:52) And
Scott Benner (30:52) You felt like you didn't have anything to add?
Britney (30:54) Yeah. (30:55) Like, where I was, like, too young to have, like, an opinion worth hearing.
Scott Benner (30:59) Mhmm.
Britney (31:00) I think so.
Scott Benner (31:01) But now you're 35.
Britney (31:03) Well, now I'm 40. (31:04) So
Scott Benner (31:04) 40? (31:05) My goodness. (31:05) Yeah. (31:06) His time's ticking by.
Britney (31:07) And I know.
Scott Benner (31:08) Yeah. (31:08) And you you might have to trade him in soon. (31:10) Right?
Britney (31:11) I mean, he talks about trading me in soon. (31:13) So He's kidding. (31:16) He's kidding.
Scott Benner (31:16) He's Sure is.
Britney (31:17) He's wonderful.
Scott Benner (31:17) Whatever. (31:18) Yeah. (31:18) He's wonderful. (31:18) Yeah. (31:21) Oh, wow.
Scott Benner (31:21) That's interesting. (31:22) I I thought you're for sure gonna tell me, like, you had a domineering mom or something like that.
Britney (31:26) No. (31:26) I don't know.
Scott Benner (31:27) No. (31:28) Just Yeah. (31:28) Just that weird, like, feeling of, like, I don't have a lot to add to this situation.
Britney (31:33) Yeah. (31:33) And and, like, coming on the podcast, like, I I think I kinda started it with saying I don't have a lot of groundbreaking things, but, like, maybe I do. (31:40) And I think I do because I think that I've been successful in diabetes because I'm flexible, and I think that's a little bit groundbreaking for people to hear. (31:49) Maybe? (31:49) I don't know.
Scott Benner (31:50) No. (31:50) No. (31:50) Don't don't say I don't know at the end. (31:52) Just say and maybe say just say I'm flexible, I think that's groundbreaking. (31:56) Tell me why flexibility around diabetes is not the norm.
Britney (31:59) I guess people can see, like, oh, when we have ice cream, we go to 500, and so ice cream is is off the table for my kid. (32:09) And I'm of the mindset like, okay, one time we went to 500, so clearly we need to do more insulin and time it better, and we'll try again. (32:18) And I think that trying again and saying like, Okay, well my carb ratio is this, but I anticipate this food's going hit a lot harder so I'm going to give a lot more insulin and have a good outcome. (32:31) And I think that being willing to try different things has has helped us be really successful.
Scott Benner (32:39) That's excellent. (32:40) And are you telling me that the direction you got from medical staff didn't lead to you being flexible or trying again?
Britney (32:47) Yeah. (32:48) Well, I would say that it was the February after his diagnosis when he had the flu, and I called the educators and I said, you know, I feel like this insulin has gone bad. (33:02) I'm trying a different pen. (33:03) I'm doing all of these things, and nothing is enough. (33:07) His blood sugar is staying sky high.
Britney (33:10) And the feedback I got was like, Okay, we can increase by 10% every week. (33:15) And if I had listened to that, he would have been in DKA, I feel like. (33:19) Like, he had an an a significantly increased need, and I decided to not listen to them and just meet the need. (33:27) And I think I mean, I got that from the podcast. (33:29) Like, I just have to meet the need of what his blood sugar is telling me he needs for insulin.
Scott Benner (33:33) I'm glad it helped you. (33:34) 10%, how much like, what was his total daily insulin during that time?
Britney (33:39) Like like, one point eight units
Scott Benner (33:41) a
Britney (33:42) day
Scott Benner (33:42) or something crazy like by, like, point one eight and see if this doesn't tackle it.
Britney (33:46) Yeah. (33:46) Like, that was that was insane to me. (33:49) And I and I think during that conversation, I was just, like, kinda smiling and nodding. (33:54) Like, okay. (33:54) Okay.
Britney (33:55) That sounds good. (33:56) And then I'm like, I'm I'm gonna hit him with a unit right now, and I'll catch it when it starts to drop. (34:00) And Yeah. (34:00) That's basically what we did. (34:02) And I'm like, okay.
Britney (34:03) I'll kind of listen to what their guidance is, but I'm not gonna call them for what I need. (34:07) I can figure this out.
Scott Benner (34:09) That quickly. (34:09) You took one piece of advice from them that didn't make sense to you, and you you trusted your sophomore.
Britney (34:15) I did. (34:16) And I think, like, one of my big skills is I'm good at figuring things out.
Scott Benner (34:20) Mhmm.
Britney (34:21) So I'm like, I can figure this out. (34:23) And I also had the podcast that I was listening to, you know, Bold Beginnings, all the different series, and I'm listening to them on 1.5 speed. (34:32) So I'm getting through them really fast, and it just all kinda clicked in my head. (34:36) Like, they're saying one thing. (34:38) That's their their guidance is, like, we have to tell people to move slowly.
Britney (34:42) And I understand, but it wasn't it wasn't what we needed at that time.
Scott Benner (34:47) You need actionable, like, real world advice for for your situation, not big picture not big picture stuff.
Britney (34:53) Right. (34:54) Right. (34:54) Like, yeah, like, maybe if we're noticing some highs, but they're not crazy, like, let's move it up by 10% and see what it looks like. (35:01) But I'm calling them saying, like, this isn't working.
Scott Benner (35:04) Yeah. (35:04) And that's He's got the flu. (35:05) And his blood sugar is this high. (35:07) You should know that he needs more than 10% here.
Britney (35:10) Right. (35:10) And, like, I I went to the Facebook group at that point, and I said, you know, my son's needs have increased by, like, 300%. (35:17) Is this normal? (35:18) What what are we doing? (35:19) And I had great feedback.
Scott Benner (35:21) Mhmm.
Britney (35:21) It was so helpful.
Scott Benner (35:23) There's always gonna be somebody that just can't wrap their brain around moving drastically off of whatever the norm is. (35:32) It just I think it shocks people. (35:34) It scares them. (35:34) I I saw a person the other day. (35:36) She said, can we please normalize?
Scott Benner (35:40) By the way, if you start a store if you start a sentence with, can we please normalize? (35:44) I stopped listening to you. (35:45) But but that it's okay. (35:47) You keep using your Instagram y catchphrases. (35:50) Yeah.
Scott Benner (35:50) Can we please normalize not going to Facebook to ask medical questions? (35:54) And I was like, you just came to a support group with 80,000 people in it. (36:00) Right. (36:01) They're saying that. (36:02) With each other constantly and going, you we shouldn't be doing this.
Scott Benner (36:06) First of all, you're not, and no one's looking for your opinion. (36:09) Thanks.
Britney (36:10) That's insane.
Scott Benner (36:11) Yeah. (36:11) I don't know how you watch so many people helping each other so successfully and then say, should stop doing this, especially after hearing your story that you just told.
Britney (36:20) Right. (36:20) Like, why why would you not ask people with real world experience, like, lived experience? (36:25) Hey. (36:26) Are you guys having this problem? (36:27) What should I do here?
Britney (36:28) Why why wouldn't you use that tool?
Scott Benner (36:30) Rules, Britney. (36:31) Is the way society work? (36:32) No. (36:33) No. (36:33) No.
Scott Benner (36:33) No. (36:33) Stop it. (36:34) Always follow the rules. (36:36) Always walk right into the volcano if you have to. (36:38) That's what I was told.
Scott Benner (36:40) Yeah. (36:41) Wait. (36:41) I don't know, but that's that's a tough perspective. (36:45) If if you're a person who can't, like, see blatant things in front of you and adjust off of what somebody taught you one day, I actually feel sorry is the wrong word, but I gosh. (36:56) I hope you can overcome that because I'm not saying you should just run around ignoring every, you know, trusted source on everything, but you you could think about it a little bit.
Scott Benner (37:06) You know? (37:06) Like, you don't have to just yell, that's not what we're supposed to do. (37:09) Everybody put your head down. (37:10) We're gonna get yelled at. (37:11) Then again, I don't know how that person grew up.
Scott Benner (37:12) Right. (37:13) They might have been getting their head screamed off all the time by somebody who told them, I'm smart and you're stupid and just listen to me.
Britney (37:18) Right.
Scott Benner (37:19) I have no idea. (37:20) You talked about feeling isolated around the diagnosis. (37:24) What was that about?
Britney (37:26) Yeah. (37:26) I mean, we live in a pretty small town in Vermont, and there's not a lot of other type one diabetics around. (37:33) We knew of one girl in high school with type one, but that was it. (37:37) I would see people, like, they're like, oh, how is everything going? (37:40) And I'm like, oh, you know, it's pretty hard, but we're we're getting through it.
Britney (37:44) And then the conversation kinda ends because they don't know what else to ask. (37:49) Yeah. (37:49) And I'm not someone who's give a ton of information that maybe someone's not interested in hearing or isn't equipped to hear.
Scott Benner (37:57) Mhmm.
Britney (37:57) And I also, like, didn't wanna scare people off. (37:59) I don't want them to be like, oh, we can't have your son over for a play date because, you know Yeah. (38:05) He might die in our care. (38:07) And so I've really struggled with how much information to give. (38:12) And I learned pretty quickly that too much information is overwhelming and just enough is what people need, but I also feel like I hadn't found people I could really talk about the successes and the failures with.
Britney (38:29) But I've come to terms with my people are the Facebook group. (38:34) It's your Facebook group and the Trio Facebook group. (38:38) Like, those are people that I can bounce ideas off of, share with successes and failures. (38:45) And in my real life, I guess it's a little bit isolating, but I'm okay with having an online community.
Scott Benner (38:52) Yeah. (38:52) No. (38:52) Listen. (38:53) It doesn't matter where they come from.
Britney (38:56) It really doesn't. (38:57) Yeah.
Scott Benner (38:57) As long as you find the interaction that you that you need and people who you can with, you know, some certainty of trust and, you know, you know that they have perspectives that are similar to yours, and hopefully that means they understand what you're going through and don't judge it right away. (39:14) Also, I don't you're not I don't know how you're supposed to trust people who don't have air conditioning. (39:19) The people of Vermont don't make any sense to me at all. (39:21) Buy an air conditioner. (39:22) What is wrong with Vermont?
Britney (39:24) I feel like a lot of people have them now.
Scott Benner (39:26) We have them. (39:27) I was there one time, and let me tell you something. (39:29) I know everything about Vermont now, and they didn't have air conditioning.
Britney (39:32) Okay. (39:33) Well, I do.
Scott Benner (39:34) Are people getting oh, you have you have fancy air conditioning? (39:37) Look at you. (39:37) You have chickens in your front yard in a trailer that's been converted into a coop.
Britney (39:42) No. (39:42) I don't. (39:42) I would love to have chickens, but there's bears around, and so we don't.
Scott Benner (39:46) Bears?
Britney (39:47) Yeah.
Scott Benner (39:47) Why don't you leave? (39:49) That's what I'm saying.
Britney (39:50) I don't know. (39:50) Vermont's great. (39:51) Like, I love that my kids can walk around in town and everybody knows them or you know? (39:56) Mhmm. (39:57) It's great.
Britney (39:57) It's wonderful.
Scott Benner (39:58) The bears won't follow you. (39:59) They don't do I don't understand what a bear does. (40:01) Like but
Britney (40:02) Yeah. (40:02) I don't know. (40:03) They eat birdseeds, so we don't put bird feeders out until they're hibernating.
Scott Benner (40:06) There you go. (40:07) Fair enough.
Britney (40:08) Yeah. (40:08) Yeah.
Scott Benner (40:08) Rock solid see, you said you weren't gonna be full of advice. (40:11) Don't put your bird feeders out till the bears are sleeping. (40:13) Okay? (40:13) Yeah. (40:14) Let's get some it's really good advice.
Britney (40:16) Big ground breaking advice.
Scott Benner (40:17) Yeah. (40:18) No. (40:18) Listen. (40:18) I bet you that's not a thing a lot of you I bet you a lot of people right now go, I didn't know that. (40:23) You know?
Scott Benner (40:23) Yeah. (40:24) That's good.
Britney (40:24) Just here for the big info.
Scott Benner (40:26) I'll be here for the big things. (40:28) So when you found yourself surrounded by people who didn't understand, the isolated feeling came from not wanting to say too much to somebody who wouldn't understand for fear that it there'd be some sort of retribution, not I mean, maybe the wrong word, but, like, impacts on your son that you didn't want.
Britney (40:45) Yeah. (40:45) It was mostly that and, like, maybe a little bit of disappointment from people that I thought would show up, like, people that I thought would be like Oh. (40:53) Let's go to this diabetes walk. (40:55) And I'm like, okay. (40:56) But they they weren't there.
Britney (40:57) They're not nobody has said that to me yet. (40:59) And I'm like, why why haven't you said it yet? (41:01) Like, why haven't you, like, asked me more about what's going on?
Scott Benner (41:05) How can I help? (41:06) They say to you, like, how can I help? (41:08) Is there something I could understand? (41:09) You're talking parents even, extended family? (41:12) Yeah.
Britney (41:12) Yeah. (41:13) So I guess I wanted some more from some people. (41:15) Like, I just want another parent to have fruit snacks on them. (41:19) Like, that would make my day if somebody I know is like, oh, is Henry Lowe? (41:25) I have fruit snacks.
Britney (41:26) Like, I'm just waiting for somebody to have fruit snacks.
Scott Benner (41:29) Do you do that for other people in your life?
Britney (41:32) I'm I'm always showing up for people in big ways. (41:35) And maybe when I don't get that in return, it not that I'm transactional in that way, but, like, sometimes I'm just like, when does somebody show up in a big way for me? (41:45) I feel like I'm whining a lot, and I don't mean to be.
Scott Benner (41:47) I well, with your terrific voice, it doesn't sound like whining, so you're fine. (41:51) I guess what I'm asking is is, like, you know, if that's how you are for other people, then there's an expectation that other people I I think we all do that a little bit. (41:58) Like, we we project how we are onto everyone else. (42:01) Right?
Britney (42:02) Right.
Scott Benner (42:02) But the truth is these people weren't doing that around anything else. (42:05) But this thing seems so big that you thought, like, this will get them off their Yeah. (42:11) Yeah. (42:11) But it it just hasn't.
Britney (42:13) It just hasn't. (42:14) And so that's where I've, like, come back around being like, okay. (42:17) The people online in the Facebook group, they can be my people, and I can be happy with that. (42:22) And I do have one friend who I've never met who I text with a lot who is like a friend of a friend, and she has a 15 year old, and she's been really great to, like, bounce ideas off of and text with here and there. (42:37) Mhmm.
Britney (42:37) So I do have that person.
Scott Benner (42:39) That's awesome. (42:39) Yeah. (42:39) It really is. (42:40) And you don't I I mean, this is my perspective, but I don't think you need the regular walking around people in your life to understand it that much. (42:49) Like, if you found some because I think that fills the need for you.
Scott Benner (42:52) Like, someone understands. (42:54) So you can't expect everyone to understand.
Britney (42:57) You it's so true. (42:58) So true.
Scott Benner (42:58) What what do people who think the world's a simulation call the other people non player characters? (43:04) Is that right?
Britney (43:05) You don't know this?
Scott Benner (43:06) I get you. (43:06) You're out there. (43:07) You're out in the woods. (43:08) You know what? (43:08) You're lucky you have the Internet.
Scott Benner (43:09) Does your still, like, go boop boop boop when it turns on?
Britney (43:12) Or No.
Scott Benner (43:13) No? (43:13) Okay. (43:13) Whatever.
Britney (43:14) It's not. (43:14) I have, like, real deal Internet.
Scott Benner (43:16) Yeah. (43:17) Get you. (43:18) Now you're just bragging. (43:19) Yeah. (43:20) I just I think that those kind of those nebulous people that float through your life, it's it's okay if they they don't understand.
Scott Benner (43:29) I can and I can also understand being disappointed if a parent or your sister or something like that isn't helping. (43:36) But Right. (43:36) I mean, maybe you could go to them and say, I feel alone because of this. (43:41) I really it would mean a lot to me if you could just if you could just learn a couple of little things. (43:47) And is there something in your life that you'd feel good about if if if I learn more about?
Scott Benner (43:51) Like, you know, is there a way we can both be, you know, this experience has made me realize that we need people and, you know, I'd like to be around for you more if I'm not. (44:01) I feel like I'm doing this, but maybe that's not what you need. (44:03) Is there something you'd prefer that I had knowledge about that would make you feel more comfortable around me and vice versa. (44:10) I don't know. (44:10) Like, depends on how far you wanna get into being a human being.
Scott Benner (44:13) You know?
Britney (44:13) That is great advice. (44:15) I I I really like that, and I think I would use that with, like, a a person I have in mind.
Scott Benner (44:19) So That's good. (44:20) Yeah. (44:21) They'll probably tie you a tree and smear maple syrup on you and let the bears eat you.
Britney (44:25) But Yeah. (44:26) Yeah. (44:26) Sounds great.
Scott Benner (44:27) And the bees. (44:27) The bees.
Britney (44:28) The bees too.
Scott Benner (44:29) What is that from? (44:30) The bees. (44:30) The bee. (44:30) It's a Simpsons episode. (44:32) The bees.
Britney (44:32) The
Scott Benner (44:33) bees. (44:33) It's, like, 25 years old, but my reference. (44:36) People are like, the way to reference a cartoon that was not our that I I I have not been alive to hear.
Britney (44:41) That's great, though.
Scott Benner (44:42) Anyway, find the episode of The Simpsons where mister Burns is yelling, the bees. (44:45) Is it mister Burns or is the system? (44:47) I'm not a 100% sure, but the bees the bees is, definitely worth looking into.
Britney (44:52) Okay. (44:52) I'll find it. (44:53) My kids got into the Simpsons recently, so I don't know how appropriate it is for my eight year old to watch it, but he really likes it.
Scott Benner (44:58) I watched it, and I'm fine, mostly.
Britney (45:00) Yeah. (45:01) I feel like the same way.
Scott Benner (45:03) I think it's, like, 30 years old now.
Britney (45:06) Yeah. (45:06) I think you're right.
Scott Benner (45:07) Is it the Simpsons celebrated its thirtieth anniversary in 2019. (45:11) Oh my gosh. (45:12) Wow. (45:12) So it's 36 years old?
Britney (45:15) Amazing.
Scott Benner (45:16) Alright, Britney. (45:17) Do you know what television show the Simpsons first debuted on? (45:21) It wasn't its own TV show.
Britney (45:22) No. (45:23) What what one?
Scott Benner (45:24) It was a sketch comedy show, and it was a little sketch that happened on I'm giving you that's as and that's as much as I'll tell you.
Britney (45:31) Oh, why don't I get to know?
Scott Benner (45:32) Oh, alright. (45:33) Fine. (45:33) Was the Tracy Old man show.
Britney (45:35) Oh, okay.
Scott Benner (45:36) You don't even know what that is, do you?
Britney (45:38) I've heard of it.
Scott Benner (45:39) That's awesome. (45:40) I wish I was younger. (45:41) Anyway, when you say here in your note that, you know, yes, I didn't know anything about diabetes even though I was a nurse, whatever. (45:51) That's fine.
Britney (45:52) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (45:52) My eyes have been opening up about not just about the care, but about a career change. (45:58) Like, what about diabetes has made you wanna change your career?
Britney (46:01) I love learning about it. (46:03) I love all the tech. (46:05) I I like, I'm in this this kind of silly job with workers' compensation that's a little bit boring, but it's really easy. (46:13) But I think, I I mean, I would love to work for Dexcom, for Insulet. (46:18) I don't know.
Britney (46:19) I just feel like I need to go where my interest is, I love learning about diabetes, and I love being involved in it. (46:27) And so at first I was thinking I want to be a diabetic educator, but I don't want to do that. (46:34) And I'm thinking about nurse practitioner, but I also don't want to take out more student loans, so I don't know. (46:39) I want to do something different. (46:43) It's just hard to pull me away from, like, a very easy job right now that has a lot of flexibility that pays me well to take on, you know, loans or a pay cut, but it's just something I was thinking about.
Britney (46:54) I think I gave you a lot of random notes in my notes.
Scott Benner (46:57) It's okay. (46:57) I like your randomness. (46:58) But is what you're telling me is that your son's diagnosis has maybe made you feel like your work life isn't purposeful enough?
Britney (47:06) Oh, yeah. (47:07) I mean, my work life is not purposeful, so I would love to have more of a purposeful work life, and I think that would be something involved in diabetes.
Scott Benner (47:16) What would stop you from looking into that?
Britney (47:18) Oh, no. (47:19) I look into it all the time. (47:20) I just I guess, like, student loans, like, more schooling would be the biggest deterrent or, like, a pay cut. (47:27) And so yeah. (47:29) But just those things.
Scott Benner (47:30) Could you not do, like, some I mean, you have your degree. (47:33) Right? (47:34) Could you not do some stuff, you know, in and around diabetes education and pile up your work hours that way?
Britney (47:40) I probably could. (47:41) I also don't wanna go I I like working from home.
Scott Benner (47:45) But you're like, listen. (47:46) I'd like to help people, but if I can do it from my house. (47:48) Right? (47:49) That's what I'm
Britney (47:50) that's what I'm going for. (47:51) I mean, to for me to drive, like, to the nearest hospital would be, a thirty five minute drive, and I've already worked there, you know, when I was in the ICU. (47:59) And I don't know. (48:00) I'm kind of looking for the perfect thing. (48:03) But for the time being, I will just stay where I am, I guess.
Scott Benner (48:08) Do you stretch your legs online with that? (48:11) Do you try to help people online? (48:12) Is there a way you you feed that desire?
Britney (48:15) I guess. (48:15) Like so I got into Trio, I guess, three or four months ago. (48:20) Mhmm. (48:21) And even though I'm new to that whole DIY looping, I love to, like, answer questions or, like, comment on things within that group. (48:32) So I I'm stretching my legs that way.
Britney (48:34) Like, I'm interested in computers and
Scott Benner (48:36) Very nice.
Britney (48:36) Helping people navigate if I can. (48:38) So That's that's awesome. (48:39) Getting it that way. (48:40) Yeah.
Scott Benner (48:40) How long has your, son been using Trio?
Britney (48:43) Just three months or, guess, November, December. (48:47) Like, two and a half months, and it's been the most amazing thing that we've ever encountered with diabetes Yeah. (48:53) Next to your podcast.
Scott Benner (48:54) Oh, it's for I I I find Trio to be awesome, personally. (48:58) Yeah. (48:58) Yeah. (49:00) You listed as a one c. (49:01) Is it okay for me to say?
Scott Benner (49:02) Yeah. (49:03) Five six. (49:04) Is that right?
Britney (49:05) Yeah. (49:05) Between five six and five nine since, after diagnosis.
Scott Benner (49:09) Wow. (49:09) Okay. (49:10) So what happened? (49:11) He wasn't in DK when he was diagnosed, and then you kinda quickly figured out what put you in that range so early on, do you think? (49:20) I mean, you had a little bit of, like, honeymooning at first.
Scott Benner (49:22) It helped you probably while you were figuring things out. (49:25) But, like, if you had to say to somebody, this is what I learned that stopped there from ever being confusion or high blood sugars that you know, so much so that I had an a one c in the seven c eights. (49:37) And I think, what is it you think happened there? (49:40) I know it's like a magic sauce for everybody, but what do you think it was for you?
Britney (49:45) I think that I was willing to keep trying. (49:49) I guess what, like, what I said about the ice cream before, like Mhmm. (49:52) I could have one outcome that I didn't love and then try again a different way, like trying differently with timing and amount. (50:00) And I think that I just wasn't afraid of insulin and that I learned to use insulin well. (50:07) I think that's what it was.
Britney (50:08) I mean, we were MDI for two months and then Omnipod five for nine months. (50:13) And while I really liked Omnipod five, like, I was putting a lot of work into it. (50:17) I was overriding the pump constantly. (50:20) I was seeing the suggested bolus and kinda laughing at it being like, no. (50:25) Thank you.
Britney (50:25) I'll I'll do a little bit more. (50:27) And I think just being flexible was was what allowed us to get these really good results.
Scott Benner (50:33) Okay. (50:34) That's awesome. (50:35) It really is. (50:35) Yeah. (50:36) And you think that information came just out of, like, old beginnings in that series?
Scott Benner (50:40) Or
Britney (50:41) It really did.
Scott Benner (50:42) Yeah.
Britney (50:42) I mean, there's a couple things that you said, like, you described, like, blood sugar on a football field maybe. (50:50) Was that does that sound right?
Scott Benner (50:52) I mean, said a lot of Britney. (50:53) I'm not sure.
Britney (50:55) Or, like, maybe, like, if the football player is, like, running really fast, like, you might have to, like, push hard against it. (51:01) Maybe maybe that's a glucose tablet. (51:04) And if it's, like, you know, drifting high, you're gonna give it a little bit of insulin. (51:08) Or if it's running full speed high, you're gonna give it more insulin to help knock it down a little bit. (51:14) And I think that was all just conversations that I listened to you have during with bold beginnings, and and it was listening to that that allowed me to not say, okay.
Britney (51:25) Well, this is the two hour rule. (51:27) He's had insulin in the last two hours. (51:29) I need to wait longer.
Scott Benner (51:30) Mhmm.
Britney (51:31) Like, no. (51:31) If I saw a a huge spike, I said, okay. (51:35) Well, he needs more insulin. (51:36) It's not stacking because he needs it. (51:38) Like, we didn't give him enough up front, so let's give him a little bit more.
Scott Benner (51:42) Yeah. (51:43) May I for a minute, I'm gonna pontificate a little bit for half a second. (51:45) Everybody settle in. (51:46) So I feel like what you're telling me is that, basically, there's a a slew of t shirt slogan ideas that I've kinda, like, peppered into that stuff. (51:56) Like, you know, it's not it's not stacking if you need it.
Scott Benner (51:59) But the core idea of meet resistance with an equal resistance to keep things from moving away from where you want them to be Right. (52:09) That was foundational for you. (52:10) So I think if I'm remembering correctly, it's also very interesting, by the way, that you you heard the story enough to understand it, but you don't have the details of it. (52:19) Like, I think I said, you know, if your quarterback is getting sacked all the time Right. (52:23) You might need to keep in another lineman or a tight end to block a little bit because there's more force coming from the defense than your offense is able to resist.
Scott Benner (52:31) Yeah. (52:32) And so try to think about that number and the insulin and the food as these two forces pushing each other back and forth off of a line and you're trying to stay on the line. (52:42) So
Britney (52:43) That was definitely it. (52:44) Not what I said.
Scott Benner (52:45) But I think it's beautiful that you didn't remember it exactly the way it was said because the idea there is is that you don't I don't even think you live in Vermont. (52:54) You don't even watch football, do you?
Britney (52:56) I mean, I don't. (52:57) My husband does.
Scott Benner (52:58) Yeah. (52:59) Does. (52:59) But what does he watch? (53:00) The Patriots?
Britney (53:01) Yeah. (53:01) Or something like that. (53:02) I
Scott Benner (53:03) don't know. (53:03) Mess. (53:03) Yeah. (53:03) Yeah. (53:03) But that's not what I'm saying.
Scott Benner (53:04) What I'm saying is that, like, something that you didn't have full context for still made enough sense to you. (53:10) Like, there's a line here. (53:12) Some stuff is pushing up and some stuff is pushing down. (53:16) And you know what? (53:17) Once in a while, when it's pushing up, I gotta put more of the down stuff in even if it's not the right time because, obviously, I need to meet the need.
Scott Benner (53:27) Like, so what stuck to you was meet the need. (53:29) Mhmm. (53:30) It's not stacking if you need it. (53:32) That's bolusing. (53:33) Like, little ideas like that, and then you just synthesize them in your own life and apply them.
Britney (53:39) Right. (53:40) That's exactly what it was. (53:41) It was, like, using the technology but not relying on it. (53:44) So, like, I think Omnipod five was great, but I couldn't rely on what it suggested all the time. (53:51) Sometimes I had to override it or do something a little bit differently.
Britney (53:54) So
Scott Benner (53:55) Mhmm.
Britney (53:55) Because of what I learned through the podcast.
Scott Benner (53:57) Sometimes you needed more blockers and it wasn't offering them to you, so you changed the play.
Britney (54:02) Right. (54:02) That's it. (54:03) Yep. (54:03) Exactly.
Scott Benner (54:04) Alright. (54:04) Britney, are you here to say that people should just listen to me?
Britney (54:07) Yeah. (54:07) I think that's what they need to do.
Scott Benner (54:09) I'm gonna call my wife right now. (54:10) Would you say that into the microphone at about
Britney (54:11) thirty seconds? (54:12) Please listen to Scott. (54:14) Yeah. (54:14) He has all the answers.
Scott Benner (54:17) I by the way, I'm not I don't care if anyone hears that except for Kelly because she will just come in and she'll be like, listen to me. (54:22) These people, they don't know you. (54:24) If she lived with you, she wouldn't say that. (54:28) That that's the second thing she would say. (54:30) She's probably she's probably right.
Scott Benner (54:31) But no. (54:32) I mean, listen. (54:33) In the end, I'm gonna bang this drum for as long as people are gonna listen to the podcast, I guess. (54:37) Mhmm. (54:38) It's all timing and amount.
Scott Benner (54:40) You need the right amount of insulin at the right time. (54:42) That's it. (54:43) You need to understand, you know, the impacts of your food. (54:46) It's not all the same. (54:47) One carb is not equal to the next.
Scott Benner (54:49) Not all the time. (54:50) Yes. (54:51) There are variables, and we're gonna wanna learn what they are along the way. (54:54) But truth be told, if you attack most days with put the right amount of insulin in the right place, that pretty much takes care of it.
Britney (55:02) Yeah. (55:02) I mean, that's that's all that it is. (55:04) Like, every time I see somebody post a graph online, and they're like, what happened here? (55:09) Like, we went so high. (55:10) It's like, okay.
Britney (55:10) Well, you didn't use enough insulin or you didn't do it soon enough or maybe you went low first, so it was too late. (55:18) I don't know. (55:18) I think you've simplified it with, like, timing and amount. (55:21) That's what it is. (55:22) So try again and just do do something differently.
Scott Benner (55:25) You even said something earlier about being flexible. (55:29) And I thought, oh, that's a nice idea. (55:31) But what she's really saying is because I even hear your conversation in, how could I distill it down more?
Britney (55:37) Right.
Scott Benner (55:37) But it's great that you understand it that way. (55:39) I don't care how distilled or not it is for you. (55:42) You have a thought and it works for you. (55:45) That's all I want.
Britney (55:46) Right.
Scott Benner (55:46) People should not listen to exactly what gets said and try to mimic it. (55:51) They should listen to the bigger ideas and then apply them. (55:54) Right. (55:55) If they get lost, if it doesn't fit in their thinking, if they can't make sense of it, then you might have to, like, then you might have to just say, like, well, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna believe what's being said here because I don't I I'm not synthesizing it to my thinking. (56:09) So let's just use it like this.
Scott Benner (56:11) Mhmm. (56:12) In the end, again, timing and amount, that's it. (56:14) Just use the right amount of insulin at the right time. (56:16) Does that sound super simple when it's not? (56:19) It's not super simple.
Scott Benner (56:20) But it is if you realize that if your basal's right, if your insulin to carb ratio's right, if your insulin sensitivity is set up correctly, then guess what? (56:31) Then that's a great starting place. (56:33) And then it's a lot easier to bump and nudge these settings or your usage and get dialed in a little bit. (56:42) I can't even share this with you yet because I haven't even settled on the URL that it's gonna go on, but I think I've decided to share something. (56:52) And so I'm I'm not a coder, Britney.
Scott Benner (56:57) There's a lot I don't understand. (56:59) We can make a very long list of things that we don't that I don't understand. (57:02) Okay? (57:03) But I know how I think about diabetes. (57:06) And, you know, you stop and listen to all these companies, you know, we're gonna put out a system one day.
Scott Benner (57:13) You're just gonna put your weight in it and it's gonna do the rest. (57:15) Right? (57:16) That's eyelet cell right now. (57:18) Right? (57:18) You just you you turn that thing on and you put your weight in and go.
Scott Benner (57:22) So you think what? (57:24) The magic box knows from my weight. (57:26) It's actually not magic at all. (57:28) Right? (57:29) So I made a calculator, okay, that you put your weight in the top, And it's going to give you starting spots for total daily dose for basal rate, for insulin to carb ratio, for sensitivity factor just by plugging in your weight.
Scott Benner (57:47) So I'm just gonna put in I'm gonna put in a weight of a hundred and fifty pounds. (57:51) That's it. (57:51) It's all it's all done already, by the way. (57:53) I typed one fifty, the whole calculator populated. (57:56) It converts your weight into kilograms to do other math.
Scott Benner (58:00) Okay? (58:01) There's an episode called there's three episodes called the math behind, the math behind insulin sensitivity, behind correction factor, behind basal. (58:09) It would explain all that to you. (58:11) But this thing says, okay. (58:12) Hundred and fifty pounds, that's sixty eight point two kilograms.
Scott Benner (58:15) Here's what I know from that now. (58:17) Your total daily insulin is about 37. (58:22) Now that's if you choose a factor of point five five or a standard or moderate factor. (58:26) Right? (58:26) But this thing gives you the opportunity to say, you know what?
Scott Benner (58:29) I'm more sensitive. (58:30) I'm more resistant. (58:31) I'm highly resistant. (58:32) You just click on those things and it changes it for you. (58:34) If you say I'm highly sensitive, it drops that to thirty point seven units a day.
Scott Benner (58:38) If you say I'm highly resistant, it puts it up all the way to sixty one point four units a day. (58:42) It isn't telling you that's exactly how much insulin you're gonna use. (58:45) It's telling you that based on your weight, this is this is what we can maybe expect. (58:51) You know, be careful. (58:52) Also, these are the formulas that your doctor uses when they try to figure out your basal rate in the beginning, when they try to figure out your sensitivity factor in the beginning.
Scott Benner (59:00) So anyway, I choose standard moderate thirty seven and a half units a day is the estimated total daily dose, which is just sixty eight point two kilograms times point five five. (59:10) That tells you that your calculated basal rate is about eighteen point seven five units a day or about point seven eight units an hour if you're using a pump. (59:17) Keep scrolling down. (59:19) Your insulin to carb ratio may be about 13.3. (59:23) That's using the standard 500 rule.
Scott Benner (59:25) One unit covers 13.3 grams. (59:27) If you go to the four fifty rule, which is more aggressive, it takes it to 12. (59:31) There's a little drop down box there where you can make that decision for yourself. (59:35) Your sensitivity factor at a 150 pounds, you know, at the 1,800 rule, 48. (59:41) One unit moves you about 48 points.
Scott Benner (59:43) You can the little slider there, you can slide it a little bit one way or the other way, change the rule for the math. (59:50) But and are these numbers perfect for you? (59:52) Definitely not gonna be. (59:54) But
Britney (59:54) No. (59:54) But they're a starting point for people and, like, a visual for people to see and understand.
Scott Benner (59:58) Yes. (59:59) And then if you have a nice starting point, then you can say to yourself, okay. (1:00:03) Well, let's see how this works. (1:00:06) And, you know, if oh, my basil's set the wrong way. (1:00:09) My you know?
Scott Benner (1:00:10) There's a little thing at the bottom here that says if your basil's set too low, your meal bowls will try to fill that hole of missing basil, and this makes carb ratios look wrong. (1:00:18) Like, so it kinda gives you the idea of, like, know, if one thing's wrong, it's gonna make something else look wrong. (1:00:23) Then it it's very clear. (1:00:24) It says the math provides a starting line. (1:00:26) You must perform basal testing, fasting periods to verify blood sugar, hold steady, like and you have to click on a disclaimer to get into it.
Scott Benner (1:00:33) The thing's disclaimered out. (1:00:34) Okay?
Britney (1:00:35) That's perfect.
Scott Benner (1:00:36) I can't decide if I'm gonna put it online. (1:00:39) I think I am.
Britney (1:00:39) Well, why wouldn't you?
Scott Benner (1:00:40) I I mean, because, like, you know, I I guess I'm okay. (1:00:45) Like, I get it explains how the tool's built. (1:00:48) Also, I want you to understand, it's not like I sat down and said, I know this math. (1:00:52) I'm gonna make this code do this thing. (1:00:54) I just fed common ideas about how Bazel and everything else is figured out.
Scott Benner (1:01:01) You can find it anywhere on the Internet from hospital websites to, you know, all kinds of different places. (1:01:08) And I don't know how to code it, so I basically built, like, three different calculators through something people call vibe coding, which, again Okay. (1:01:17) Just understand I you go to, like, a large language model and you say, look. (1:01:22) You know, go learn everything you can learn about the, I don't know, the 1,800 rule for this and how people with type one diabetes would use it to get a starting point for this setting. (1:01:32) It goes and looks at, a thousand different websites.
Scott Benner (1:01:35) It comes back and says, this is the math. (1:01:36) This is how it works. (1:01:37) I understand it now. (1:01:38) And I go, okay. (1:01:39) Can you build me a little embeddable calculator where people could figure that out for themselves?
Scott Benner (1:01:44) So I made three separate calculators that all worked independently. (1:01:48) And then I said, is there not a way that we couldn't combine all these into one calculator and limit people's interactions so they could get this in? (1:01:56) And they said, yeah. (1:01:56) They could just put their weight in, and we could figure the whole thing out from that. (1:02:00) And I was like, cool.
Scott Benner (1:02:01) Make that. (1:02:02) And then I used it and used it and used it and used it till I thought this is working. (1:02:07) And I'm not seeing any glitches, then I sent it to a friend and I said, hey. (1:02:10) Do you see anything here that doesn't look right? (1:02:13) They said there's one wording mistake right here.
Scott Benner (1:02:15) We made a little change. (1:02:17) You know, sending out the five or six other people who have been using it. (1:02:21) Seems to work for them okay. (1:02:23) And, you know, that's it. (1:02:25) But why do I bring all that up?
Scott Benner (1:02:26) I bring all that up because if you had your settings somewhere close to right and you understood I'm gonna tell you that I think if you had that calculator and at the minimum, the small sip series from the podcast, I think you'd be off on a good way.
Britney (1:02:43) I think you're totally right. (1:02:44) And I also think there's a lot of value to people who think they have their settings pretty good to use a calculator like that to see, you know, like, what's the next dial I might wanna turn to get things looking a little bit better.
Scott Benner (1:02:57) It may not prove true to you. (1:02:59) Like, it might say, oh, your daily basil is this. (1:03:01) You might be like, that's not right. (1:03:02) Well, okay. (1:03:03) That's good.
Scott Benner (1:03:04) Use your common sense and say that doesn't sound right. (1:03:06) Or if, you know, your daily basil right now is five units a day and the thing's telling you it's 12, I wouldn't go just yakking it up out of nowhere. (1:03:13) Like right? (1:03:13) But, like, it might give you the idea of, like, oh, I wonder if my basal's too weak. (1:03:18) Like, is that a thing I could be looking at?
Britney (1:03:19) Is this another tool? (1:03:20) Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:03:21) Could I go ask my doctor? (1:03:22) Hey. (1:03:22) You know, I found this calculator and it says this. (1:03:24) How come my base and and where does this all stem from? (1:03:27) Everything I do on the podcast stems from some personal experience I've had.
Scott Benner (1:03:30) Right? (1:03:31) Mhmm. (1:03:31) But for this one specifically, when Arden was diagnosed, she was little. (1:03:37) And I think her insulin sensitivity was like one to three fifty. (1:03:41) Like, one unit moved her 350 points or something like that.
Scott Benner (1:03:45) And as she's growing and getting older and I'm figuring out that she needs more insulin and I'm really making more decisions upfront where I'm ignoring the settings and going more with the amount of insulin I see needed. (1:03:56) Right? (1:03:56) And things are working. (1:03:57) So the doctor's like, oh, things are working. (1:04:00) You know, they never think about it again.
Scott Benner (1:04:01) One day
Britney (1:04:02) Right.
Scott Benner (1:04:02) One day I said, I swear to this this, you know, person who just said all this to you, I go in the doctor's office. (1:04:08) It's a couple years into it. (1:04:10) I go, what's the insulin sensitivity? (1:04:14) And they're like, what? (1:04:15) And I'm like, yeah.
Scott Benner (1:04:15) I don't really understand what that is. (1:04:17) So I was a couple years into it. (1:04:19) I didn't I didn't know what it meant. (1:04:20) I it was to me, it was just a setting in her pump. (1:04:24) I was like, I don't under like, this number hasn't moved since she was, like, four.
Britney (1:04:29) Right. (1:04:30) But you're moving every other number to try to make up for that.
Scott Benner (1:04:32) But I'm moving numbers all over the place trying to make up for it. (1:04:35) But, like, I'm like, what should this be? (1:04:37) And I remember the look of horror on the face of the person. (1:04:40) They took the pump for me, and they looked and they went, oh. (1:04:43) And their face just said to me, that number is nowhere near correct.
Britney (1:04:47) Wow.
Scott Benner (1:04:48) And then I was like, okay. (1:04:49) I was like, where do you think it should be? (1:04:51) And they're like, well, I I'm not sure. (1:04:52) And then they sat down and wrote some numbers on a piece of paper and gazinted a little bit and then moved it to another number. (1:05:00) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (1:05:00) And now I realized that all they did was take the total daily insulin and her weight and a couple of other little ideas and rejiggered the numbers.
Britney (1:05:10) Right. (1:05:10) Yeah. (1:05:11) I mean, that's but people so people need that calculator. (1:05:15) I mean, you think about people who start on, like, Omnipod five, and they're four months into diagnosis. (1:05:22) And then, you know, six months later, they're like, this pump doesn't work.
Britney (1:05:27) Omnipod five is crap. (1:05:29) I'm gonna go to Mobi instead. (1:05:31) It's like, well, you probably need a hard reset of your pump with the right numbers for what you need now.
Scott Benner (1:05:37) Mhmm.
Britney (1:05:37) And a calculator like that could be like, hey. (1:05:40) Let's reset your pump, and let's use these numbers and see if you're getting something better.
Scott Benner (1:05:45) No. (1:05:45) It's and it's not crazy. (1:05:47) Like, it really and I just had a conversation like that with somebody recently. (1:05:50) I think it motivated me more about the calculator. (1:05:53) This person reached out and said the same thing.
Scott Benner (1:05:55) Like, my you know, this automated system's not working for me and, you know, for my kid, and I think something's wrong. (1:06:00) And I was like, well, what are the settings? (1:06:01) He gave me the settings. (1:06:02) I was like, that doesn't sound right to me. (1:06:03) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (1:06:04) And then, you know, you realize that they, you know, they put those settings in, the kid on the pump, time has passed now, and the pump isn't doing what they needed to do. (1:06:13) And, you know, I said, well, I think you should go back into manual and try to, like, you know, reestablish some good settings. (1:06:21) I said, but you can't just do that. (1:06:22) Those settings are way wrong. (1:06:24) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (1:06:24) And that person did not know where to start, and I just said, well, you know, let's take their weight and do this. (1:06:30) They said, oh, well, that that one number is way different than what they had. (1:06:32) I said, well, don't move it drastically. (1:06:34) Like, just Yeah. (1:06:35) Keep it in the back of your head.
Scott Benner (1:06:37) Start over again. (1:06:38) You know? (1:06:38) If you it makes you more comfortable to call your doctor, call your doctor. (1:06:40) Like, I I don't care. (1:06:42) Like, you know, do do whatever makes you happy.
Britney (1:06:44) But, like, don't wait three months for your next endo appointment that's gonna be twenty minutes long and expect all of these things to happen. (1:06:50) Like, this is where people need to take some control of their own.
Scott Benner (1:06:55) And Yeah. (1:06:55) Also, this this person is is out of their mind. (1:06:57) They're not sleeping now.
Britney (1:06:59) Right.
Scott Benner (1:06:59) If this goes on for two more months, then they go into a doctor's office. (1:07:02) They're gonna sound like a raving lunatic. (1:07:05) I'm not sleeping at the baby and then yeah. (1:07:07) Like and and the doctor's gonna be like, oh, okay. (1:07:09) I'm just trying to make it for lunch.
Scott Benner (1:07:11) No. (1:07:11) No. (1:07:12) You know, like, relax. (1:07:13) They're gonna say, well, well, you're getting low at 03:00. (1:07:16) Why don't we turn your blah blah blah down at like and that's not gonna help anything.
Scott Benner (1:07:19) Mhmm. (1:07:20) Right? (1:07:20) So Well Anyway
Britney (1:07:21) And I think this is also maybe a time when people are like, oh, we have to do low carb because, like, the pump doesn't work with what we're eating, and we're told we can eat anything. (1:07:32) We just have to dose for it. (1:07:33) That's not true, so we have to do low carb. (1:07:35) And low carb people, like, fine. (1:07:37) Like, whatever works for you, but you don't have to be that.
Britney (1:07:41) You just have to have better settings.
Scott Benner (1:07:42) You can take low carb out of it. (1:07:44) Like, all the misconceptions start flying at
Britney (1:07:46) you. (1:07:46) Right.
Scott Benner (1:07:47) You know, like, oh, the insulin must be bad. (1:07:49) My sight's wrong.
Britney (1:07:50) Right.
Scott Benner (1:07:50) I you know, the I don't is it because I'm, you know, the phase of the moon? (1:07:54) Is it you know, like, I mean, you start seeing ghosts everywhere
Britney (1:07:59) Right.
Scott Benner (1:07:59) And you can't figure out what's actually happening.
Britney (1:08:04) Right.
Scott Benner (1:08:04) I just think that's a sad thing for people. (1:08:06) Like, I'm not saying plug your weight in and these numbers are gonna be exactly right. (1:08:11) You know, pop them into your device or, you know, use your MDI this way, everything's gonna be hunky dory. (1:08:17) But what I can tell you is is that it'll get you a lot closer than you are. (1:08:21) Right.
Scott Benner (1:08:22) And in that same vein, I I don't know if I have access to this one right now through a browser. (1:08:29) I do. (1:08:30) I also built and I Jenny and I talked about it in an episode recently, so I guess I'm maybe gonna have to put it out in the world. (1:08:38) I also built a a calculator that once you have those settings, okay Mhmm. (1:08:44) Take them and you drop them into this thing here.
Scott Benner (1:08:48) So insulin the car actually, do you know your kid's numbers off top of your head? (1:08:53) Yeah. (1:08:53) What's his carb ratio?
Britney (1:08:55) In the morning, it's 18, and the rest of the day, it's, like, 34 to 36.
Scott Benner (1:08:59) Let's just say 18 and do a breakfast thing. (1:09:02) Insulin sensitivity?
Britney (1:09:06) Ish? (1:09:08) Like, one twenty?
Scott Benner (1:09:10) One unit moves them a 120. (1:09:12) Let's make the target blood sugar 90. (1:09:14) I'm just filling in little boxes here. (1:09:17) How many carbs are breakfast?
Britney (1:09:19) Like, 60.
Scott Benner (1:09:20) Is there any fat in it?
Britney (1:09:23) A little bit.
Scott Benner (1:09:24) Do you know how much?
Britney (1:09:25) A few grams.
Scott Benner (1:09:26) A few grams. (1:09:26) Let's say four. (1:09:27) Is there protein in this thing? (1:09:29) Yes. (1:09:30) What?
Scott Benner (1:09:30) Do you know how much?
Britney (1:09:32) Six grams.
Scott Benner (1:09:33) Mhmm. (1:09:33) What's what's his current BG when he eats usually in the morning?
Britney (1:09:37) Around, like, ninety two. (1:09:39) Ninety two. (1:09:39) Ninety three.
Scott Benner (1:09:40) Okay. (1:09:40) Any insulin on board?
Britney (1:09:43) Like, point four probably.
Scott Benner (1:09:46) Point four. (1:09:47) And is his arrow his trend arrow usually stable, rising, or falling at that moment? (1:09:53) Like Stable. (1:09:54) Okay. (1:09:55) So click button.
Scott Benner (1:09:58) Does 3.33 sound like about the bolus you would use in that situation?
Britney (1:10:02) About the bolus? (1:10:03) Yeah. (1:10:04) Like, right around there, probably a little bit less, and then, like, the SMBs from Trio would take care of the rest
Scott Benner (1:10:10) Mhmm.
Britney (1:10:10) To take care of the rise. (1:10:11) Yeah. (1:10:12) Because I have my settings at, like, 80% of the recommended bolus, and then it kicks in over time.
Scott Benner (1:10:18) Okay. (1:10:18) So if if I gave you that calculator and you didn't know what you were talking about and it told you at the end, I would use a 3.33 unit bolus and wait about nine minutes to pre bolus, do you think that would go reasonably well for him? (1:10:31) Yes. (1:10:32) That's a calculator I made.
Britney (1:10:34) Yeah. (1:10:34) That's that's so helpful. (1:10:36) That's what people need.
Scott Benner (1:10:37) And trust me, something like that exists inside a probably inside a it could exist inside of people's pumps. (1:10:44) But if you don't know what you're doing, right, if you have no idea what you're doing and you sat down and said, my kid weighs this much and then took those numbers and moved it over into the other thing and said, here's a meal I don't understand, You know, blah blah blah. (1:11:00) And then it spit out 3.3 and you said to yourself, oh god. (1:11:03) I've been bullousing one and a half units for that.
Britney (1:11:05) Right.
Scott Benner (1:11:06) Or he gets low all the time and I bullous five units for that, but I don't pre bullous. (1:11:10) Like, it would at least maybe, like, light a candle in your head and make you go, Totally. (1:11:15) You know? (1:11:16) Yeah. (1:11:16) And by the way, we were to add more fat to this.
Scott Benner (1:11:19) Let's say that there was 15 grams of fat in this meal. (1:11:22) Mhmm. (1:11:22) I regenerated it. (1:11:24) It now tells you to do a 3.33. (1:11:27) Still wait the nine minutes, but it would like to see you do a point eight eight Warsaw wave.
Scott Benner (1:11:34) Basically, like, it's a bolus for the fat and the protein in the meal, which would take the the total dose up to four point two two. (1:11:40) It would like to see that that. (1:11:41) So, basically, it's asking you to make a square wave or extended bolus over three hours of point eight eight. (1:11:46) So three point three three up front with a point eight eight over three hours to deal with the fat. (1:11:53) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (1:11:53) And it gives you little things at the end. (1:11:55) You know, insulin on board safety correction only subtracted. (1:12:00) And there's something called ambiguity guard. (1:12:03) The 10 to 70 range was checked, the Warsaw method is using one FPU. (1:12:08) It discarded that because it's not touched.
Scott Benner (1:12:11) It's it's trying to show you how it's working a little bit. (1:12:14) And trust me, as I'm talking here, I don't understand. (1:12:18) But what I did do was teach it all about the Warsaw method and, like, let it go out. (1:12:24) I sent it everything we had on the podcast. (1:12:27) I sent it to websites that talk about it, three or four different places that talk about the math of the Warsaw method.
Scott Benner (1:12:34) I did my best to make the large language model as much of an expert on the Warsaw method as I could, and then I asked it to combine it into this calculator. (1:12:42) Maybe it's not right. (1:12:43) I don't know. (1:12:44) That's why, again, it has, you know, disclaimers all over it, and it's not I haven't put it on the on the web yet. (1:12:50) But what I can tell you is that there's a simple fat and protein calculator on the website now.
Scott Benner (1:12:56) Mhmm. (1:12:57) Under guides, it's a fat and protein insulin calculator. (1:13:01) It explains the Warsaw method in at I mean, it explains to the point where if you read all that, god bless you, because it's really broken down there. (1:13:09) But at the end, it gives you four episodes where we talk about fat and protein that you can listen to if you want and a simple calculator to figure out the fat and protein and how you might use it. (1:13:18) You have no idea how much email I get from educators out in the world who are like, hey.
Scott Benner (1:13:23) Please, I keep sharing that link with people. (1:13:26) That's awesome. (1:13:27) Thank you very much. (1:13:28) So So
Britney (1:13:29) You know? (1:13:29) I feel like the people who are going to that website or or using those calculators are people who are pretty proactive. (1:13:36) But how do you get that into the hands of somebody who feels so so lost and isn't proactive about figuring it out? (1:13:45) Like, what do you how do you get
Scott Benner (1:13:47) that asked. (1:13:49) You, being Scott, put your lazy ass on an airplane a bunch of times this year and go to a bunch of conferences where professional people are gonna be and stand around and banging the drum for telling people about this stuff. (1:14:02) Yeah. (1:14:02) And then, hopefully, it bleeds out into the world a little more because it does now. (1:14:07) I mean, there are a lot of institutions that, you know, suggest the podcast to
Britney (1:14:12) people. (1:14:12) Right.
Scott Benner (1:14:13) And maybe my honestly, my goal is I'm gonna stand at a table at a couple of professional conferences and talk to anybody who's willing to talk and tell them, look. (1:14:23) This is what I found talking to people. (1:14:25) What would be wrong with showing them how to get their settings right and how to figure out maybe the impact of the fat and protein in their food because, I mean, really, that's what they're missing.
Britney (1:14:34) And do you think that, like, you could get that to maybe endocrinologist offices are are on top of it, and the educators that work there are on top of it, but is there a way to get into, like, primary care with people who are having their PCP manage their diabetes? (1:14:49) Like, how do you get to them?
Scott Benner (1:14:51) Yeah. (1:14:51) I I mean, listen. (1:14:53) The only thing I've figured out about the Internet is that it it works at its own pace, and
Britney (1:14:58) Right.
Scott Benner (1:14:58) It you don't know how it's working. (1:15:00) So Right. (1:15:01) Word-of-mouth. (1:15:02) All you have to do is help somebody and give them the confidence that the thing you told them was valuable and they will hopefully go tell somebody else about it. (1:15:11) But other than that, there's no way.
Scott Benner (1:15:13) You can't I've watched I'll tell you what. (1:15:17) It's a pretty big organization a lot a few years ago now, and they wanted to make a push for, you know, just a finger stick during with kids with flu symptoms. (1:15:27) They tried really hard. (1:15:29) I mean, they put a massive effort around it, put money and manpower, it didn't work. (1:15:36) So Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:15:37) I don't know how I'm supposed to go do that. (1:15:39) So what I can do is I can help people
Britney (1:15:41) Right.
Scott Benner (1:15:42) To see the you know, what the bigger picture might be, hope that they, again, take the information, synthesize it for themselves, apply it to their own lives, have some success, and then it's been meaningful enough to them that they've they'll tell somebody else.
Britney (1:15:56) Right.
Scott Benner (1:15:56) That's it. (1:15:57) Yeah. (1:15:57) Citizen they call I saw I heard somebody call it citizen science recently. (1:16:02) Oh. (1:16:02) That's all fancy.
Scott Benner (1:16:03) I don't know what that means.
Britney (1:16:04) Yeah. (1:16:05) Okay. (1:16:05) I like the sound of it.
Scott Benner (1:16:06) Yeah. (1:16:06) Yeah. (1:16:07) I just you you gotta just try to help people, and hopefully, they'll try to help people. (1:16:11) I think that really is a I mean, you know, unless you wanna you know, I don't know. (1:16:17) Can you imagine getting on the phone with a GP's office and saying, hey.
Scott Benner (1:16:20) Do you have a lot of type, you know, ones in there that, you know, should be going to an endo, but they're coming to you instead and their a one c is 10? (1:16:26) I think I could help them. (1:16:27) And they're gonna be like, goodbye. (1:16:29) And, you you know, like, it's what what do
Britney (1:16:31) I guess, like, I started listening to the ADA twenty twenty six episode this morning. (1:16:36) Oh. (1:16:37) And you were talking a lot about your friend Mike. (1:16:39) And I'm thinking, like, how do you get it to his doctor? (1:16:41) Like, how do you how do you infiltrate those people who aren't getting what they need and having I don't know.
Britney (1:16:47) I'm I just, like I wish Mike's doctor had that information and shared it with him.
Scott Benner (1:16:51) Yeah. (1:16:51) Me too.
Britney (1:16:53) Yeah. (1:16:53) I
Scott Benner (1:16:53) appreciate that. (1:16:54) I I yeah. (1:16:54) I don't know the answer to that one, Britney. (1:16:56) Yeah. (1:16:57) World's not a perfect place.
Scott Benner (1:16:58) So No. (1:16:59) Yeah. (1:16:59) Thank you. (1:17:00) I think this is good place to stop, but I do wanna check to see if you have anything else that you wanna say or anything I missed that I should have brought up.
Britney (1:17:07) No. (1:17:07) I don't think so. (1:17:08) I mean, I hope that you can get something helpful out of this podcast. (1:17:11) Or
Scott Benner (1:17:11) Don't do that, Britney. (1:17:12) Don't do that. (1:17:13) Okay. (1:17:14) Okay. (1:17:14) Just say I was awesome, and my conversation spurred on other good conversations, Scott.
Scott Benner (1:17:21) And you're fantastic, and I'm fantastic, and let's be done.
Britney (1:17:24) It's all good. (1:17:25) I'm proud of myself for doing this and Good. (1:17:27) I thank you for your time.
Scott Benner (1:17:28) Don't doubt yourself.
Britney (1:17:30) Okay. (1:17:30) I won't.
Scott Benner (1:17:31) I said somewhere recently, somebody called me what did they call me? (1:17:37) Forget what it was. (1:17:38) Egotistical. (1:17:39) I forget. (1:17:40) Does it sound egotistical that I forget what they call me?
Scott Benner (1:17:42) Whatever.
Britney (1:17:42) No.
Scott Benner (1:17:43) No. (1:17:43) Yeah. (1:17:43) It does a little. (1:17:45) Somebody said something about that about and I and I said, look. (1:17:48) I I don't know what happened to you in the past that didn't allow you to trust yourself as much as I trust myself, but I'm sorry for you.
Scott Benner (1:17:55) Mhmm. (1:17:56) Also, it doesn't make me egotistical.
Britney (1:17:58) Right.
Scott Benner (1:17:58) I've explained 17 different ways in this conversation. (1:18:02) I don't know what I'm talking about. (1:18:03) I might not be right. (1:18:05) If you're looking for absolutes, don't look to me. (1:18:08) The disclaimer literally says, this tool is for educational purposes only.
Scott Benner (1:18:12) The results are mathematical estimations that do not constitute medical advice. (1:18:16) Please read our full disclaimer. (1:18:17) If you click on that full disclaimer, here's what that disclaimer says about 20 different ways. (1:18:22) If I was you, I wouldn't listen to me. (1:18:25) Okay?
Scott Benner (1:18:25) But I'm still talking. (1:18:27) Do what you want with it. (1:18:28) I don't know what happened to me that I say, look, I'm sharing how I feel and I'm not making any claims about it. (1:18:38) And but what happened to you that makes you go like, I'm sorry. (1:18:41) I hope I shared something today that was maybe valuable.
Scott Benner (1:18:43) Hopefully, you can cobble together eight minutes out of this that, you know, like, that if I was you, I'd go figure out what that is.
Britney (1:18:51) Right. (1:18:52) Okay. (1:18:52) I will.
Scott Benner (1:18:52) Trust yourself. (1:18:53) Have you ever hurt anybody on purpose?
Britney (1:18:55) What I don't know what you mean by that.
Scott Benner (1:18:57) You have you ever, like, have you ever, like, maliciously hurt someone?
Britney (1:19:01) Like, eavesdropped?
Scott Benner (1:19:02) No. (1:19:03) Like, you know, like, like I'm sorry.
Britney (1:19:04) I'm not following.
Scott Benner (1:19:05) I think that answer answers my question.
Britney (1:19:08) Okay.
Scott Benner (1:19:09) Do you lie, as a regular, like, part of your life? (1:19:13) Are you a big liar? (1:19:14) No. (1:19:14) No? (1:19:15) Okay.
Scott Benner (1:19:15) And you don't No. (1:19:16) You don't you you wouldn't you wouldn't screw somebody over to get $20 from them?
Britney (1:19:19) Oh my god. (1:19:20) No.
Scott Benner (1:19:20) No? (1:19:21) Then No. (1:19:22) Then okay. (1:19:23) Then what do you what do you think you're not doing then?
Britney (1:19:25) I don't know, but I'm gonna start doing what I'm not doing.
Scott Benner (1:19:29) Do have an ethos, like, how you live?
Britney (1:19:33) Not really. (1:19:34) I I guess I just try to be kind to do the right thing, and I try to hold space for other people and listen to people and be helpful.
Scott Benner (1:19:42) I have I have literally two sentences I run my whole life with.
Britney (1:19:46) What's that?
Scott Benner (1:19:48) I try to treat people the way I wanna be treated.
Britney (1:19:52) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (1:19:53) And I don't lie unless I have to.
Britney (1:19:56) Right.
Scott Benner (1:19:56) That's it.
Britney (1:19:57) I agree with both of those things.
Scott Benner (1:19:59) Yeah. (1:19:59) That's pretty much it. (1:20:00) And what what would constitute having to lie? (1:20:02) I don't know. (1:20:03) Maybe the zombies are coming, and, I got a steak, and, my kids are hungry.
Scott Benner (1:20:07) And you ask me if you, if I got a steak, and I go, no. (1:20:10) No steak.
Britney (1:20:12) Yeah. (1:20:12) I can get on board with that.
Scott Benner (1:20:14) Yeah. (1:20:14) But if if I had a steak and, there were no zombies and you said, hey. (1:20:19) Can I have some steak? (1:20:19) I'd be like, yeah. (1:20:20) Goddamn right.
Scott Benner (1:20:20) Let's have some steak together. (1:20:21) Yeah. (1:20:22) Yeah. (1:20:22) Right. (1:20:23) So, that's pretty much it.
Scott Benner (1:20:24) Like, I don't screw people over on, on purpose. (1:20:27) I'm sure I've done things in the past that have not been, you know, good for other people. (1:20:31) It wasn't on purpose, and it wasn't through ignorance. (1:20:33) Like, if it happened, it was it was completely benign on my part. (1:20:38) I don't run around screwing people over.
Scott Benner (1:20:40) I don't use my powers for evil. (1:20:41) I've settled on here a million times. (1:20:43) I don't know if you've heard it. (1:20:44) If I was a bad person, you'd know it because I'd have a lot more money, and I wouldn't be helping people with diabetes.
Britney (1:20:51) Right.
Scott Benner (1:20:52) I would be one of those people who looks at the world and goes, what can I extract out of this for me? (1:20:57) Mhmm. (1:20:57) And instead, I say, based on those two sentences, I'd like to help other people if I can make a reasonable living at it and take care of my kids. (1:21:07) So I have found a way to do that. (1:21:10) I again, if I was a lawyer or something like that, oh my god.
Scott Benner (1:21:13) You people would be in so much trouble. (1:21:14) Or if I decided to start a cult
Britney (1:21:17) Yeah.
Scott Benner (1:21:17) I'd be having sex with your wives, and you'd be sending money to my account every day. (1:21:22) What do think of that?
Britney (1:21:22) You'd be you'd be an incredible cult leader.
Scott Benner (1:21:24) Thank you. (1:21:26) I would be an incredible cult leader. (1:21:28) I take that as a compliment, by the way. (1:21:29) I just wanna say thank you. (1:21:31) I really do.
Britney (1:21:31) You should.
Scott Benner (1:21:32) I'm gonna walk around all day thinking that. (1:21:34) Listen. (1:21:36) I have no inclinations like that. (1:21:39) Like, none whatsoever, but there are people who do. (1:21:42) You know what I mean?
Scott Benner (1:21:43) And you're not one of them. (1:21:45) So don't question yourself when you're, I don't know, purporting who you are. (1:21:49) You're a good person.
Britney (1:21:50) I'm not gonna I'm not gonna question myself.
Scott Benner (1:21:52) Yeah. (1:21:52) What should we call this episode?
Britney (1:21:54) Oh, I don't know. (1:21:56) Really? (1:21:58) We wanna get rid of the cat. (1:22:00) I don't know.
Scott Benner (1:22:00) Oh.
Britney (1:22:03) The cat's peeing on the floor.
Scott Benner (1:22:04) That was so long ago with the cat peeing on the floor.
Britney (1:22:07) It was.
Scott Benner (1:22:08) It was. (1:22:08) Can I tell you something? (1:22:09) If it had more to do with it, I love your son's statement. (1:22:13) Someone peed on my bed.
Britney (1:22:16) I got somebody just peed on my bed.
Scott Benner (1:22:18) Somebody peed on my bed. (1:22:20) I don't know what's going on here. (1:22:21) Like, do people not lock the door? (1:22:24) Like, what
Britney (1:22:24) Right.
Scott Benner (1:22:25) I'm counting on you guys, and and I got a guy in here peed on my bed. (1:22:30) Someone peed on my bed is just strong title cost ability. (1:22:33) I also like the bees for some reason.
Britney (1:22:36) Okay. (1:22:36) The bees work. (1:22:37) The bees.
Scott Benner (1:22:37) The bees. (1:22:38) But that's only because I know the episode. (1:22:41) So
Britney (1:22:42) I'll know the episode later. (1:22:44) I'll I'll watch it.
Scott Benner (1:22:45) I'm going somebody peed on my bed. (1:22:47) Yeah. (1:22:47) Because metaphorically, someone peed on your bed.
Britney (1:22:50) Right.
Scott Benner (1:22:50) Yeah. (1:22:51) Yeah. (1:22:51) Alright. (1:22:52) Britney, you're awesome. (1:22:53) I feel like we could be friends.
Britney (1:22:55) Well, thank you. (1:22:55) I feel like we could be friends too.
Scott Benner (1:22:57) As long as there's air conditioning. (1:22:58) That's all I'm saying.
Britney (1:22:59) Yeah. (1:22:59) There is. (1:23:00) There is. (1:23:00) I have AC.
Scott Benner (1:23:01) Is it wait. (1:23:02) Is there a real air conditioner? (1:23:03) Like, it's outside. (1:23:04) It's a big unit. (1:23:05) It's hooked to a vent.
Britney (1:23:06) No. (1:23:06) It's not like Is it jammed on a window? (1:23:08) Central air.
Scott Benner (1:23:09) Oh my god.
Britney (1:23:09) No. (1:23:10) I don't have that. (1:23:11) I don't have central air. (1:23:12) I have, like, a heat pump that also functions for, like, AC and cooling.
Scott Benner (1:23:16) It doesn't sound like air conditioning. (1:23:19) Can you get it down to a crisp 67 in that house?
Britney (1:23:22) Yes. (1:23:22) I can. (1:23:23) It cuts all the humidity.
Scott Benner (1:23:24) Alright. (1:23:25) Actually
Britney (1:23:25) It's great.
Scott Benner (1:23:26) The the reason most people don't have or have it in the past had air conditioning in Vermont as well, it is cold there most of the year. (1:23:32) And even in the really hot months, it's more about humidity than heat. (1:23:36) Right?
Britney (1:23:37) Right. (1:23:37) Yeah. (1:23:38) Right. (1:23:38) So if you cut the humidity, it's so comfortable and it's, like, lovely in here.
Scott Benner (1:23:42) Yeah. (1:23:42) But still overnight with the humidity, I don't love it for the sleeping.
Britney (1:23:46) No. (1:23:47) God. (1:23:47) No. (1:23:47) I don't either. (1:23:48) That's why we have the heat pump that gets rid of the humidity.
Scott Benner (1:23:51) I know there's lot of problems in the world, I should probably be focusing on one of those. (1:23:55) But I just wanna tell you that, if I was lucky enough to be born somewhere with air conditioning, I'm not going backwards. (1:24:00) So Yeah. (1:24:00) Yeah.
Britney (1:24:01) Yeah. (1:24:01) That's Fair enough.
Scott Benner (1:24:02) My god. (1:24:02) Alright, Britney. (1:24:03) You're awesome. (1:24:04) Hold on one second for me. (1:24:05) Okay.
Scott Benner (1:24:11) A huge thank you to Cozy Earth, a longtime sponsor. (1:24:15) Cozyearth.com. (1:24:17) Use the offer code juice box at checkout. (1:24:21) You will save 20 percent off of your entire order when you use that code. (1:24:25) Don't let me down kids.
Scott Benner (1:24:27) Head over there now. (1:24:28) Get yourself some joggers, some towels, some sheets. (1:24:31) Save yourself some money. (1:24:32) Support the podcast. (1:24:33) Make your life beautiful and comfortable all at the same time.
Scott Benner (1:24:36) Cozyearth.com. (1:24:37) Use the offer code juice box at checkout. (1:24:40) This episode of the juice box podcast is sponsored by the Omnipod five. (1:24:44) And at my link, omnipod.com/juicebox, you can get yourself a free, what I just say, a free Omnipod five starter kit. (1:24:54) Free?
Scott Benner (1:24:56) Get out of here. (1:24:57) Go click on that link. (1:24:57) Omnipod.com/juicebox. (1:25:00) Check it out. (1:25:01) Terms and conditions apply.
Scott Benner (1:25:02) Eligibility may vary. (1:25:04) Full terms and conditions can be found at omnipod.com/juicebox. (1:25:09) Links in the show notes. (1:25:10) Links at juiceboxpodcast.com. (1:25:13) Dexcom sponsored this episode of the juice box podcast.
Scott Benner (1:25:16) Learn more about the Dexcom g seven at my link, dexcom.com/juicebox. (1:25:24) Thank you so much for listening. (1:25:25) I'll be back very soon with another episode of the Juice Box podcast. (1:25:29) If you're not already subscribed or following the podcast in your favorite audio app, like Spotify or Apple Podcasts, please do that now. (1:25:37) Seriously, just to hit follow or subscribe will really help the show.
Scott Benner (1:25:41) If you go a little further in Apple Podcasts and set it up so that it downloads all new episodes, I'll be your best friend. (1:25:47) And if you leave a five star review, oh, I'll probably send you a Christmas card. (1:25:52) Would you like a Christmas card? (1:25:55) If you're looking for community around type one diabetes, check out the Juice Box podcast private Facebook group. (1:26:01) Juice Box podcast, type one diabetes.
Scott Benner (1:26:04) But everybody is welcome. (1:26:05) Type one, type two, gestational, loved ones, it doesn't matter to me. (1:26:10) If you're impacted by diabetes and you're looking for support, comfort, or community, check out Juice Box podcast, type one diabetes on Facebook. (1:26:19) If you're new to type one diabetes, begin with the bold beginnings series from the podcast. (1:26:24) Don't take my word for it.
Scott Benner (1:26:26) Listen to what reviewers have said. (1:26:28) Bold beginnings is the best first step. (1:26:30) I learned more in those episodes than anywhere else. (1:26:33) This is when everything finally clicked. (1:26:35) People say it takes the stress out of the early days and replaces it with clarity.
Scott Benner (1:26:39) They tell me this should come with the diagnosis packet that I got at the hospital. (1:26:43) And after they listen, they recommend it to everyone who's struggling. (1:26:47) It's straightforward, practical, and easy to listen to. (1:26:50) Bold Beginnings gives you the basics in a way that actually makes sense. (1:26:55) Have a podcast?
Scott Benner (1:26:56) Want it to sound fantastic? (1:26:58) Wrongwayrecording.com.
Please support the sponsors
The Juicebox Podcast is a free show, but if you'd like to support the podcast directly, you can make a gift here. Recent donations were used to pay for podcast hosting fees. Thank you to all who have sent 5, 10 and 20 dollars!
