#1628 A River in Egypt - Part 2
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Patty, living with type 1 diabetes since 1987, reflects on denial, resilience, and decades of management—sharing how acceptance, support, and learning transformed her journey. Part 2 of 2.
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Patty 0:00
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I'm having an on body vibe alert. This episode of The Juicebox podcast is sponsored by ever since 365 the only one year where CGM that's one insertion and one CGM a year, one CGM one year, not every 10 or 14 days ever since cgm.com/juicebox the episode you're about to listen to is sponsored by tandem Moby, the impressively small insulin pump. Tandem Moby features tandems newest algorithm control, iq plus technology. It's designed for greater discretion, more freedom and improve time and range. Learn more and get started today at tandem diabetes.com/juicebox today's podcast is sponsored by us, med, us, med.com/juicebox, you can get your diabetes supplies from the same place that we do. And I'm talking about Dexcom, libre, Omnipod, tandem and so much more. Usmed.com/juicebox, or call, 888-721-1514, and I said, So my feeling about this person is, is that they they're just here for the money, and that was my expectation and but I said, again, never spoke to them. Don't know them. Haven't written to them. I don't know. I couldn't say for sure, it's my vibe. And the person said, I appreciate you sharing that with me. It's also my vibe. And then told me a number of kind of things that they had been dealing with that were not pleasant and underhanded and etc, and that they had just come out of a meeting where they said, Hey, we think this person does not have the best interest of people with diabetes in their heart. We think that they just see it as fish in a barrel. They have a skill. They know how
Patty 3:37
to do it, yeah, as a money maker. And that's, you know, in fairness,
Scott Benner 3:41
the next thing the person said was, like, Listen, what they do is good. Like, it works, and people like it, et cetera, but we've decided we don't want to be a party to it. And so I was like, Okay, great. Like, it was weird conversation to be in, but it reminded me, because then afterwards, this person said, Scott, we know you're out there trying to help people, and that makes this feel better for us. Like, yes, it's a business, and yes, we're trying to get people to look at our thing, but we like that they're finding our thing and being supported by you and that community that you've built on Facebook and and and and, you know, and they the end of that conversation was, we think you've taken a number of valuable things and brought them together for people, and we're watching people be better off for it. And if we're going to spend money in this space to try to get people to see our thing, we'd like it to be in places like this. Not that I'm the only one doing it with people who are well intentioned, you know, at the start, and I was like, oh, yeah, that's good. I'm glad you're, you're thinking of putting your money there, so it was pretty much it, yeah,
Patty 4:48
yeah. I'm glad, I'm glad that you know, yeah, because you know, and it's, you've talked about it, and people have talked about it on the podcast, about. You know the insurance companies, and you know the bottom line for them is the money. And you know, these are people's lives that they're playing with. And, no, it's
Scott Benner 5:15
always been my, I'm going to ask you about your about your life, obviously, in a second, but it's always been my intention that, like, Look, somebody is out there trying to they're marketing right for pumps and CGM and insulin, all the things they're trying to sell. And that's going to happen one way or the other, if I can take some of that money that they're planning on spending to reach people's ears and use it, and the way I used it ends with you coming on and saying what you said about finding the podcast and helping yourself, then I found a way to make something good out of a thing that was going to happen one way or the other. And, you know, some, you know, high minded people might be well, just do it for free. And, you know, that's sweet, but you don't know what it takes to do this. There's a small army of of time and ideas and that, you know, effort. Oh,
Patty 6:01
no, you have to value what you're doing. And you know, money is the way that. You know the world works.
Scott Benner 6:10
If you could pay me in food and heat and gasoline, I'd be fine too. Yeah, I don't care how it happens. I just
Patty 6:16
right food, especially, yeah, nowadays, and I gotta stay
Scott Benner 6:19
alive too. And my kids got diabetes, which, by the way, like, when you, if you think it like, I get anything for free, I don't like, that's not how this works, you know, yeah. So no, anyway, so you Yeah, I appreciate it. So here you are. You're growing up. We went a long way around. But, oh my, yeah, you are, like, in your 30s, 40s, and then you've had diabetes for like 10 years, then you get cancer, yeah. What happened
Patty 6:46
there? Crazy? Huh? Yeah, oh, that. That was really crazy. I actually, I had just gone to my first education with a Medtronic pump, and that was back in 99 and I was going to start pumping, and then I go to the doctor because I had a little bump on my left breast. And I was like, Ah, it's, here's the denial again. It's a mosquito bite, honey. Like, well, you know, it's not really, it's not going away. I think I'm going to go and, well, sure enough, yes, it was a breast cancer. I was 42 I went back to my Endo, and I'm like, I had the pump, you know, I paid a lot, even though we had good insurance. And I said, I can't do this. I I just have to stay with what I know, you know, MDI. And in a way, I think it worked out well for me, because with the treatments and the steroids that were given, you know, to me, You know what steroids do to people with, well, to everybody, but especially people with type one, because I was on long acting and I wasn't eating anything because I was so nauseous from the poison that was put inside My body to kill that little, tiny mosquito bite was killing everything else. My blood sugars kind of
Scott Benner 8:27
were okay, yeah, the MDI helped you get through it. You think? I think
Patty 8:31
it did. You know, because I couldn't eat after my treatments, I would go home, I would take some Ativan and sleep for two days, and by the second day, I would wake up and kind of get myself going again. So because I was on the long acting I think, you know, in my crazy mind, it kind of kept me from, you know, going too low or going too high because I wasn't eating well, I just was,
Scott Benner 9:05
yeah. I mean, that would have been your first pump, yeah. So, I mean, probably not a great time to be learning, like you knew how to do it. You knew how to do it with MDI at that point. So, yeah, right, right, right. Maybe not a great time to start something slap it on, yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be like, if you slapped on a new Omnipod five and then ended up in the hospital later that day for two weeks, which is just, which is, by the way, it's just a message to one person who's listening, and it actually ended up working out really well for them. But in the moment, you're like, oh no. Like, you know, gosh, I just, I, this is the day I'm switching. And then, you know, 12 hours later, you don't realize it, and here you go into another at least. Yeah, listen, I wouldn't made a big switch at that point. Did you eventually get a pump or you still?
Patty 9:50
MDI, no, no, no, I'm on tea. Slim, no, I What happened was, I had that point. I'm sorry, yeah, after, you know, I was like, Okay. Pump. I had this pump brand new that I had gotten just before my breast cancer diagnosis, and it was in the box, and I just kept looking at it and going, now, you know, I'm just going to keep doing MDI, MDI. But then I was getting a lot of lows at night, the endo said, you know, I think if you start on the pump, it might even things out just a little bit better. So by then, that pump had gone out of warranty. So it was, like, four years later, and I still hadn't, because I am kind of stubborn, like I said,
Scott Benner 10:38
we've mentioned it, yeah, yes,
Patty 10:42
and so then I put in and I got a Medtronic pump, which I was on Medtronic for, gosh, probably 18 years different Medtronic pumps. And then I was so disgusted with the CGM and everything, I decided with in my endos office, he brought up I was getting ready to leave my endo after a long time, because I was the patient who, you know, my a one, Cs were pretty Good, like, you know, seven, maybe I got a 6972, so I didn't have I didn't give him much trouble. And so after all those years, he was like, Hello, how are you? Here's your graph. You're looking good. And I'd have questions, but he'd be walking them backwards out the door. And I was like, this isn't cool. Wait a minute. I got a, you know, got a question. I was looking to change, and I really was going to change, but he brought on an amazing nurse practitioner who really listens, oh, my God, and you're a good listener. And she listened to me, and I was so happy that he brought her on, and she said, Why don't you try this tandem pump? You know, it's, I think it, I think you might like it. And so I did, but again, I strapped it on. You know, I got the basic education at the office. I, I didn't do my own due diligence, okay? Because here again, you know, it's like, oh, life goes on. I I'm busy, you know what? I guess I'm not a detail person, you know, until it smacks me really hard upside the head, and just like to get going. Yeah, and my my husband, was like, I don't think you should have tried. You should have changed to this pump, because I didn't know all the good things about it. I was just thinking it was like, you know the pump, I had the Medtronic, and it wasn't so anyway, through listening to you and doing, you know, a lot of my own homework now, you know, I really like it, except that, as I said, the infusion sites are becoming less and less viable for me after all these years, and, you know, I'm just wondering, like, do you when you hear that from other people, what do other people, you know, go off the pump and then, you know, start doing, you know, different things, like a Pres.
Scott Benner 13:39
Well, yeah, I mean, what do you what are you talking about, about your sites? Or, like, are they just not working any longer, or you just all beat up? Or, yeah,
Patty 13:46
you know, like, it takes a couple of tries. I'm on the true steel. The other day, I had to take it out and put it which I love, that feature, you know, take it out, put it in a couple of different spots until I could see that it was working, that I was getting the insulin that I needed. And so it is, I think, you know that I have a lot of scar tissue, and you know,
Scott Benner 14:15
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Patty 16:35
Yeah, exactly. And it's like, okay, well, I tried my arms. My arms are so skinny, you know, that's where I put my Dexcom. I'm still on the g6 which I love. I know the g7 smaller, but, you know, I'm stubborn. I don't want to change. Like, where the hell I have really small boobs and and, like, I see women that put the infusion sets in their boobs, and I'm like, Oh, that would not work at all. And especially, having had breast cancer,
Speaker 1 17:04
I'm running out of spaces,
Patty 17:08
you know. And I'm thinking, you know, as I'm hearing about a pres and, you know, I don't know it sounds, sounds good. So
Scott Benner 17:20
Well, there's plenty of people who use it to love it. And, yeah, I don't know if it's in in concert with their other insulin, that they think of it as, as really well, or if people are using it just with a, you know, a basal injection and and then a pres for meals and for highs, I don't know. Like, I've, I've talked to people have used it, really enjoy it. Still use it. I've talked to people used it. One guy just told me last week I got that cough, and I was like, oh, no, I'm good. I need to stop, you know. Like, so I talked to somebody who said that, you know, I know how to inhale it with, you know. So it kind of goes in in a way that, you know, that won't happen. A lot of people have theories about it and everything. I mean, could it hurt to try or to talk to somebody about it, just to but, I mean, the point is, is you're not going to stop putting your pump in anyway, right? Like you're going to use it in concert with it. So that's not going to really make up a difference with
Patty 18:15
maybe not, yeah, maybe not. Maybe I would just, you know, get off the pump take a little break, which kind of thinking, you know, I
Scott Benner 18:24
wonder if that would help, or if the scar tissues, if it's too far along, or if a break would help. Yeah, I don't know. Have you ever tried giving one place a break to see if it got better? Like, you know what I mean? Just like, I know you're already low on spot, yeah?
Patty 18:39
Like, I haven't used my stomach in years and years, and I've, you know, I've tried, and it just doesn't seem to work. It absorbs for like a day, you know, with the true steel, which, you know, you got to change it out every two days. And here, you know, it's exhaust this. So back. Okay, I'm, I'm sorry I'm going all over the place, but what you were saying about Arden and you know, yeah, you've got all the the managerial art down the amount of time and energy that some days it takes to just get the insulin going in and absorbing finding the right spot. When I hit a right spot, I'm like, yeah. Finally, I also do a lot of yoga. And my husband's theory is, you know, I'm stretching the areas and the the infusion sets getting moved around in my body, and, you know, all these things I don't know, but you're tired of thinking about it just seems to take a lot more work now than it did. You know? I. Years ago, you know, when I, when I was working full time running the school, you know, it was like,
Scott Benner 20:07
oh, you know, you were younger, and your body hadn't been abused as much.
Patty 20:12
That's the other thing, right? Yeah, yeah, being younger and having more energy and being able to tolerate like, now when, when my blood sugar is over, like, 161 70, ah, yeah, it just makes, makes me upset. You know, it's like, Oh, I gotta get that down. You feel bad
Scott Benner 20:35
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Patty 21:45
yeah, it just makes, makes me tired, you know, and I'd much rather treat a low than chase a high. That's you in quotes, because that was also another thing I think I I also was afraid of giving myself too much insulin, and now I'm not, you know, and I don't overdo it. You give yourself what you need. Yeah, here's the other thing, listening to you, getting my knowledge up to date on the device that I'm using my last day 1c, and I know it's just a number, and my everything, my variable is low,
Scott Benner 22:32
six. Oh, no, that's wonderful. Good for you. Congratulations. Yeah, yeah,
Patty 22:36
I'm, you know, I'm real happy about it, if it goes a few points up above, but, but I don't think I'll ever, and I hope I won't, you know, go back up to seven, you know, just with this technology, which also can prove to be anxiety ridden. How so? Oh, how So, all the alarms I have everything shut to vibrate. I I don't even my phone. I don't like having dings going off. So I have turned so many alarms off because I have developed anxiety over the years, you know, with managing this, I have been depressed. I been to see therapist, you know, to kind of help. I all okay. Here's the other thing. I was also my mother's caregiver in our home for five years. My mom just passed at the age of 97 and a half. I'm sorry, thank you, but she was ready, and she She was a beautiful mama, but just having that also, you know, extra, it was a lot, and it was a lot. I was in a real bad place, like seven months, seven months ago, eight months ago, and I was like, you know, I'm going to enroll in that blue circle health, because I need to talk to other people that have diabetes, you know, and and again, such a fabulous resource, awesome. Oh, I'm glad it helped. And, yeah, and unfortunately, I I missed a lot of opportunities because of the care that I had to be involved with towards the end. But the other thing is, you can sign up again after a year, okay, if you want to go through the program again. I mean, come on, can
Scott Benner 24:54
I ask you, at your age, was losing a parent any different than you imagined it was? Have been at a different age, like, did it matter that she lived that long and that you're in your 70s? Was it just as sad as it would have been if you were 3040, 50? Do you think I
Patty 25:09
think it was sadder? I believe that, my gosh, not many 70 year olds still have their mommy around. Yeah, all her grandchildren had her, you know, they're all in their 30s. They had their grandma, okay, and my dad lived to almost 102
Scott Benner 25:28
Jesus, yeah. Did you still utilize them like parents? Like, did you like, even in your later years? Can you think of a time in your 60s that you went to your parents for advice, or did it change the relationship?
Patty 25:44
Yeah, no, just the cover, no more of a comfort, no, but, but here's the kind of crazy thing. We moved in 1989 from New York to Florida to be close to my parents, who were like in their late 50s, early, you know, late 60s, we wanted to make sure we could be close by when they needed our help, right? They were very vibrant up until their 80s. 90s, both my parents, I get cancer. Oh, yeah, they move into my house to help you, to help me with our two sons, my husband, you know, everything and so, you know, looking back, yes, we we had made so many great memories with them, and our Kids had them for, you know, so long. And I believe that having them for as long as we did made it even harder, you know. I mean, she is so close to us, in in our hearts and in, you know, every memory you know, I understand, yeah, gosh, I'm sorry. Well, it's okay. She lived a good, long life. She did and she was ready. She kept telling us the last month, I'm done.
Scott Benner 27:18
I've seen the prices, right enough, this is over.
Patty 27:20
Yeah, Turner, classic, that was her favorite classic movies. Yeah,
Scott Benner 27:25
that's something, yeah. Well, God bless her. Okay, that's really lovely. And I mean, here you are probably thinking, I got 30 more years.
Patty 27:33
Oh, no, I do not want to live. No, I No, no, no, no,
Scott Benner 27:40
tell me, if you could put a time on it, where's the sweet spot? I'm okay,
Patty 27:45
you know. Well, maybe another year or two, hey, I'm okay, you know? I mean, I say it, you know, I am a very faithful person. I'm have a very strong relationship with God, with Jesus and but I'm also a realist, and practically speaking, you know, I don't want to be suffering. I work really hard to to keep myself healthy. I don't want to go. I don't want to have some okay, my husband, he he don't know. I mean, he does know a bit about my care with the pump, and
Scott Benner 28:29
he doesn't really understand what it's like. No,
Patty 28:33
no. You know it's like. It takes a lot to keep this body going.
Scott Benner 28:39
So you're saying when your health wanes, you think that's the end of life, like for you, like you. You're not looking to suffer to stay alive. Oh,
Patty 28:48
I'm not. I'm not. It's no, no, there's not. No, there's wouldn't be a quality. I don't want somebody having to to take care of me and change the diaper or whatever. God forbid. Yeah. So I am practical about that even, you know, like some people say, might say, oh, that's awful. You know how you know that's how you feel, yeah, it's how, it's how I feel, and it's okay, it's okay. I've lived a good life. I have beautiful family, most amazing friends. I love my yoga. I love teaching yoga. It has, it has also really helped with my manage, management of all the, yeah, the mental, emotional stuff, okay, comes up with the diabetes, you know, being able to meditate come back to your breathing, to move. And, you know, move with your breath. And you know, I'm not saying I stand on my head, but especially at 70. But the practice. Is a very deeply spiritual practice, and it's very helpful for people with chronic illnesses to be able to just kind of set that aside for half an hour and just be present in your body and learn how to use your breath to bring down the anxiety that comes with having to, you know, having this on you, 24 hours a day, seven days a week for the rest of your life, to try to be a major organ. You know, it's like, oh, today, I wasn't I didn't really act that good as a pancreas. I missed that, or I did, you know, I was tired, or whatever. I mean. What other organ Are you in charge of? Okay, yeah, and have to be in charge of for the rest of your life. I Is there one like, you know, the heart they took hook you up to a heart monitor, but you're not going to go in there and start pumping your own heart. Or, you know,
Scott Benner 31:09
you know, I used to say to people that try to imagine that breathing was a thing you had to think about in, out, in, or your heart pumping, that it was your job to that's what it felt like raising Arden, that it was my job to say, breathe in, breathe out, breathe in, breathe out. And if I didn't, if I, if I wasn't focused on it like that, that it might not happen. That was kind of one of the early that's
Patty 31:33
overwhelming, yeah, for Oh my god. When I was running the preschool, a woman came in frantic. She had had her two year old at another school, and he had been diagnosed with type one. He almost died this poor kid. Oh my gosh. And the people at the preschool, they we can't, we can't, you know, help him. You know, we've got 20 other three year olds, you know, it's going to take too much, yeah, and somehow or other, she found us. And I was, like, so thankful that she did. I mean it, he was newly diagnosed. He was all set up with his Omnipod is, you know, he had everything hooked up, and she was right there, you know, like sharing from afar. And I just said to her, we got this, don't worry. Yeah, he's in good hands. And he was, and I
Scott Benner 32:41
didn't ask you a question earlier. I'm sorry, yeah, you said you adopted, right? Yes, your heads are one
Patty 32:50
two boys, men now from South Korea back in 1986 and 1988
Scott Benner 33:01
was that a reason? Could you not have children? Or did you just want to adopt? Or I
Patty 33:05
couldn't. No, I couldn't. We had been trying, you know, which was fun, for seven years. And then I had a procedure done, and, and the doctor said, Well, you'll have a 30% chance, you know, of getting pregnant and and my husband and I, you know, we both come from fairly large families. I'm the oldest of five, he's the sixth of seven. We and we love kids, and we wanted kids, and we were like, I can't wait any longer. Let's just take this into our own hands. And we adopted two beautiful babies from South Korea who are now almost 39 and 37 years old.
Scott Benner 33:51
Wow, that's That's wonderful. Did you keep trying and it just never happened?
Patty 33:56
Yeah, yeah. Kept trying. Never happened. Oh, yeah. Do
Scott Benner 33:59
you think you have is it? Do you do you have any idea where the problem lies? Do you have PCOS?
Patty 34:05
I had a lot of endometriosis. My fallopian tubes were blocked, you know, all sorts of scar tissue and there. So, yeah, you know, it just it. I mean, it just wasn't going to happen, right? So, and that's fine, because we lucked out two brilliant men, you know, hard working, yeah, good, good parts, you know. And we're very proud of them.
Scott Benner 34:35
That's lovely. Are they, yeah, are they local? Do you get to see them? Or are they
Patty 34:40
spreading? Well, actually, our younger son just stopped by Monday. He, he lives in Gainesville. They, they both graduated from University of Central Florida in Orlando. Our oldest son, he still lives in Orlando and works in. Orlando and our younger son moved from Orlando to Gainesville, which is in the middle of the state, and he's been there about 11 years. And he was in he was up in Jupiter, Florida, and he came down to visit us in Point Beach. Did they have their own families? Not yet, not yet, not yet, no. So we'll see.
Scott Benner 35:30
Yeah, that's something else. Well, your your life's been something it's really, really great story.
Patty 35:36
Everybody has a story, right? Scott, I believe you've heard a lot of them,
Scott Benner 35:40
I'd like to hear some more. I'd like to hear some more, because I think the more I hear, the more I understand about myself and everybody else. And
Patty 35:49
that's so true. Yeah, that is so so true.
Scott Benner 35:53
You guys are helping me a lot, so I appreciate it. You know, it's a weird journey that we're that we're all on together. Interesting, how new people come in and out of it all the time. Like, would you say you started listening a couple
Patty 36:07
years ago? Yeah, probably just like two years ago. Wow,
Scott Benner 36:11
it's had that much impact on you already. And I was making it for nine years before that,
Patty 36:15
right? Imagine, and I know, no, I mean, and I, and it's so funny when I, when I listen to the older ones, it's like, wow, he has really, you know, you just get good at get better and better. I mean, you were good at it when you started, you know, because you were coming from that place of really wanting to help other people. So everybody gets that. But then the longer you've been doing it, just like any you know, just like a yoga practice, people think they're gonna, you know, start they never did anything. I can't touch my toes, you know. And they think the first time they go to a class, they're going to do that. I'm like, No, it's a practice. You got to do it every day.
Speaker 1 36:56
A lot of lessons in that about patients, yeah, yeah, you know. So I
Scott Benner 37:00
even wonder, if I went back, how well I do listening to myself. I've never, I've never really, I've never tried it, but
Patty 37:07
you don't have enough time. I would imagine
Scott Benner 37:09
also again, talking about being insane, if I started listening to my own podcast, that'd be crazy as well. But no, I wonder how annoyed I'd be by things I used to do or didn't do or, you know, right kind of stuff, yeah, yeah. Also, I'm always worried that I'll look back and think I was better at it back then. So anyway, Oh, that's funny, yeah. So Patty, I just want to thank you. This was really terrific. I appreciate you taking the time it can I ask you the last question, what made you want to do this?
Patty 37:42
I wanted to share my story because I love listening to you interview the professionals in the field. You know the Pro Tip series, you know the bold beginnings, all of that. But when I hear other people's stories, and, you know, they just inspire me. And I, I always learn something. And so I thought, well, I'll give it a try. I was really excited. In fact, my blood sugar is a little bit higher because I, I just have been excited to meet you and talk to you, so that's why. But I also, you know, I've been a preschool teacher for many, many years, and I, I love to sing, and I love to make up songs, so we're of the same kind of peer group. Did you used to watch Saturday Night Live? Of course, yeah. So one of the comedians on there, I forget what his name is, but he used to come on and say, I wrote a song about it. Want to hear it. Here go. So here's my song for you.
Scott Benner 38:57
You have a song for me? Oh, hold on a second. I thought you. I thought you were gonna say I was a preschool teacher, so I was ready to handle you, Scott, but this is different.
Patty 39:05
Well, that too kind of but this is, it's a very short song. It's very short. And here it goes. Juicebox podcast is good for you, whether your diabetes is one or two. Take some time to listen in. You'll gain so much knowledge, and that's a win.
Scott Benner 39:30
Oh, my God, that's wonderful. Thank you. Listen, Rob. You got to pluck that out and play it at the beginning of the episode, like before, before anything happens before I even say hey, like, Hello friends and welcome back to the Juicebox podcast. Play, play. Patty song first.
Patty 39:48
Oh, wow, thank you. I tell you, I wrote a song about it. Just last night. I was like, I gotta write him a little song.
Scott Benner 39:56
Awesome. Great patty. You could have been on Lawrence wealth back in. Day for sure.
Patty 40:03
Oh, my God, he's laughing. His grandmother loved Lawrence. We used to have to sit there every Saturday night and the one and the two,
Scott Benner 40:13
no kidding us too, like they drag his wife out. I was like, Oh, here we go. Yeah, no one knows what we're talking about right now, but, yeah, I suffered through that too. I just sit on my my grandmother's Davenport and shut my mouth and watch Lauren's walk. There he goes. A lot of old there's a lot of old words I'll throw right together for you. What else did she used to have? What she used to call the ottoman. She called it a passick. Maybe,
Patty 40:41
yes, a hastic, yes, we had one. Yeah, we had one.
Scott Benner 40:45
I know a lot of words, yeah, oh, that's true. How old are you? I turned 54 last weekend.
Patty 40:52
Oh, you're young. Come on, 54
Scott Benner 40:55
I just remember a lot of that stuff. That's all
Patty 40:58
Wow, when you were a baby, when you were watching that? Yeah,
Scott Benner 41:01
no kidding, I was, but I remember it because it was painful. And
Patty 41:05
so, Hey, Scott, can I just throw one more thing in there? I'm sorry. Go ahead, all this stuff. Jordan, the the nurse, head on, yeah, yeah. Ah, you like that. I I'm so glad that I listened to those episodes about the ER, because honestly, I I have, really, I haven't gone, and it's the one thing I like. I should have gone a couple of times. I know I was in DKA and but I'm so stubborn. I stayed home and I treated myself when I really should have gone to the ER, but I have such well, and also having, you know, gone through breast cancer. I really don't care for doctors and all of that stuff. But anyway, he just reassured me. You know it was, it was reassuring that, Okay, you go in there, and I do, I have all my settings and everything down and all and so it made me feel a whole lot better hearing what he had to say about, yeah, yeah, going to the hospital so, and I made my husband listen to that one too. So
Scott Benner 42:23
we're hoping to have Jordan back. He it's a little on him to come up with topics, yeah, stuff that he's passionate about, wanting to talk about, but when he has time, he just had his I don't think I'm, I think I'm, I think Jordan just had his fourth baby recently. He didn't, I believe,
Speaker 1 42:38
I believe his wife a lot of kids. I remember I was like, Wow. I believe his wife
Scott Benner 42:42
had the baby. But like, you know, yeah, he was, yeah, yeah. He might be busy at the moment, is what I'm
Patty 42:48
thinking. I think so, yeah, I think so, but, but he was good. And then you had another gal who, she's probably around my age, but she, she was in she was a psychologist, I think I can't, Sandy. Remember Sandy? Yeah, she was awesome as well. I really liked, I really liked listening to her, yeah, yeah, like I said, I, I really enjoy listening to I love hearing people's stories. And we I
Scott Benner 43:17
appreciate that. Let me tell you. I what I appreciate about it is that you in your 70s can hear somebody in their 60s or 50s, 40s, 30s, 20s, you know, down to little kids talk about diabetes and that it somehow is valuable for everybody. Like, I don't think, I can't think of another scenario where it would be valuable for a 70 year old to listen to a 20 year old. Do you know what I mean, like, or vice versa, or whatever, but there's certainly, I, there's certainly as much value in your story for somebody in their 30s as their 20s, 30s, 50s, etc. Like I, this is a very unique situation where it's really, really a good idea to listen to, yeah, all the different, you know, again, spectrums of people and ages who have had lived through type
Patty 44:04
one. So
Scott Benner 44:07
it's just really, yeah, it's great. Okay, well, I'll thank you very much for doing this, and thank
Patty 44:12
you was delightful. I'm so glad we got a chance to chat. You be well and enjoy your vacation.
Scott Benner 44:19
Thank you. And you beat me to calling you delightful. So thank you. Hold on one second for me. Okay, okay,
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