#1706 The Classic Smash and Dash

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Rachel shares her chaotic journey through three pregnancies misdiagnosed as Gestational Diabetes before a life-threatening DKA event revealed she has LADA (Type 1). She discusses the dangers of misdiagnosis, the "smash and dash" humor of her marriage, and managing her fourth pregnancy with the right tools.

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Scott Benner (0:00) Hello, friends. (0:01) Welcome to the Juice Box podcast. (0:03) Happy holidays to everyone juggling carbs, cookies, and the chaos of this season.

Rachel (0:17) Hi. (0:17) I'm Rachel. (0:18) I have diabetes. (0:20) I got diagnosed at the January, the whole DKA drama as one does sometimes. (0:27) And I'm 26, so a little late in the game, one would think.

Rachel (0:31) However, we've learned so much differently now.

Scott Benner (0:35) My diabetes pro tip series is about cutting through the clutter of diabetes management to give you the straightforward practical insights that truly make a difference. (0:44) This series is all about mastering the fundamentals, whether it's the basics of insulin, dosing adjustments, or everyday management strategies that will empower you to take control. (0:54) I'm joined by Jenny Smith, who is a diabetes educator with over thirty five years of personal experience, and we break down complex concepts into simple actionable tips. (1:04) The diabetes pro tip series runs between episode one thousand and one thousand twenty five in your podcast player, or you can listen to it at juiceboxpodcast.com by going up into the menu. (1:16) Please don't forget that nothing you hear on the juice box podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise.

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Rachel (2:51) Hi. (2:52) I'm Rachel.

Scott Benner (2:53) Hey, Rachel. (2:54) How are you?

Rachel (2:55) I'm good. (2:56) How are you?

Scott Benner (2:57) Excellent. (2:57) Thank you. (2:58) I'm having a good day. (2:59) What do we not know about you? (3:00) What do we need to know?

Scott Benner (3:01) You got diabetes? (3:02) You got a kid with diabetes? (3:03) You're just here because you love me? (3:04) What are we here for?

Rachel (3:05) Well, I would be here if I loved you, but I don't think you'd let me be on the podcast if that were the case. (3:09) But, no, I have diabetes. (3:11) I got diagnosed at the January, the whole DKA drama as one does sometimes. (3:18) Just

Scott Benner (3:19) ten months ago?

Rachel (3:21) Yeah.

Scott Benner (3:22) Okay.

Rachel (3:22) It was and I'm 26, so a little late in the game, one would think. (3:27) However, we've learned so much differently now.

Scott Benner (3:30) Yeah. (3:30) You have a better understanding. (3:32) What happened that that you, I guess, what led you also, let me correct you for a second. (3:37) If there's somebody out there listening who has no connection to diabetes and you're just listening to this podcast because you like it, you can a 100% be on. (3:44) If nothing else, just to tell me that.

Scott Benner (3:46) Okay?

Rachel (3:47) Interesting.

Scott Benner (3:47) I would love to know why somebody would be listening if they have no connection to diabetes.

Rachel (3:52) I'd be really curious too. (3:54) Like, if it were a doctor or something like that, just a random guy, I'm I'm really curious.

Scott Benner (3:58) No connection. (3:59) They're just out there like, I don't know. (4:00) I love this podcast. (4:01) I wanna know why.

Rachel (4:02) They're just yeah. (4:03) I'm really curious. (4:04) That would

Scott Benner (4:04) be great.

Rachel (4:04) Somebody if anybody is out there that way, please come on the podcast. (4:07) I wanna hear that.

Scott Benner (4:08) Rachel, thank you. (4:09) Appreciate this.

Rachel (4:09) Yeah. (4:09) I'd listen to that episode.

Scott Benner (4:10) Yeah. (4:11) Of course you would. (4:11) I I'd make it lovely one way or the other. (4:13) Here's what I need to know. (4:15) How did you notice something was wrong?

Scott Benner (4:17) And I wanna know if there's any other people in your life, your family connected to you that has autoimmune issues other than diabetes.

Rachel (4:23) Yeah. (4:24) This is I kinda got out, like, a timeline for you. (4:27) Oh. (4:27) It's it's a really I don't wanna say typical misdiagnosed type two story, but it kind of is. (4:34) Do you want me to just give you the timeline?

Scott Benner (4:36) I would love it.

Rachel (4:37) K. (4:37) I have, like, a little drama in my head about it, so I hope you don't mind. (4:40) Do you mind a little drama?

Scott Benner (4:41) Is it gonna be a radio play? (4:42) Do you need me to do the inserts? (4:44) Honestly? (4:45) Could jump in once in a while and go, it's about them that Rachel discovered.

Rachel (4:49) I 100%. (4:50) You need to, like, hire a whole another team for this. (4:52) Like, we need a musical production as well. (4:54) Like, we're gonna

Scott Benner (4:55) Let's see if we can do it as a one woman show first. (4:57) Go ahead.

Rachel (4:58) Yeah. (4:59) Okay. (4:59) So the timeline starts. (5:00) Like, I have this I've, like, tracked this all in my head from each memory about how I got to this point in my life

Scott Benner (5:07) Okay.

Rachel (5:08) Because it really baffled me for a while. (5:09) So, anyway, when I was, I don't know, 18 or something, I went to the doctor just for, like, a checkup and stuff. (5:16) And the doctor's like, oh, you're a sugar monster. (5:19) And I was like, well, yeah, because I have really bad sweet tooth. (5:23) He said, just, you know, eat dessert on the weekends or something.

Rachel (5:26) And I was like, okay. (5:27) So that's, like, the very first memory that Santa I was 18. (5:31) This is, like, right before I got married. (5:33) And he had told me that, and I just didn't think anything of it because I didn't know anything about diabetes. (5:38) And

Scott Benner (5:38) Rachel, pause.

Rachel (5:39) We had a sweet tooth.

Scott Benner (5:40) I have questions already.

Rachel (5:41) Questions? (5:42) Come. (5:42) Yes. (5:42) Come. (5:43) Not the questions.

Rachel (5:43) I'm ready.

Scott Benner (5:44) What would have prompted that? (5:45) Did you have a high a one c? (5:46) Were you overweight? (5:47) Was there something that got the doctor to say that?

Rachel (5:50) After I got my blood test done with

Scott Benner (5:52) them Wow.

Rachel (5:53) And he was reading the results, and that's what he said to me. (5:56) He didn't tell me what my a one c was, but I from that memory, I'm like, obviously, he saw something in my blood, obvious most likely my a one c

Scott Benner (6:04) Yeah.

Rachel (6:04) That my it was elevated. (6:06) Whether it was in range and elevated or not, I don't know. (6:09) But, like, for him not to be concerned and just to be, like, eat sugar on the weekends, I'm assuming it was higher elevated in range or something at that point.

Scott Benner (6:16) I see you're a sugar monster. (6:19) Just eat sugar on the weekends.

Rachel (6:20) Right. (6:21) And I'm like, the negligence, bro. (6:23) Come on. (6:24) Like, I okay. (6:25) I was 18.

Rachel (6:26) Okay. (6:26) Probably maybe 17, 18 probably. (6:28) Yep. (6:29) And I was, like, maybe a hundred and ten pounds

Scott Benner (6:32) Mhmm.

Rachel (6:32) And young. (6:34) And not to say, like, anybody with type two people can get type two at any weight, age, whatever. (6:38) That happens. (6:39) Okay? (6:40) But that's unlikely at that age and that weight and, like, sir, hello.

Scott Benner (6:46) And do you think because of your age and probably, you know, hadn't been through a whole lot by then that you just thought, oh, I do have a sweet tooth, and then just just wrote it off and kept going?

Rachel (6:57) A 100% because, like, that's how people like, my my person I babysat for, she's wonderful, but she always make used to make fun of me and call me cookie monster. (7:06) Because I really I, like, I really love sweets and stuff. (7:09) But

Scott Benner (7:09) listen, you're still babysitting. (7:11) You need help. (7:12) Was there a parent in the room with you when this happened?

Rachel (7:15) When I was 18? (7:16) I don't think so. (7:17) No.

Scott Benner (7:17) No? (7:18) Okay. (7:18) Alright. (7:18) Did you go home and tell anybody about this?

Rachel (7:21) No. (7:22) Probably not. (7:22) I don't know why you something I would've kept to myself because I would I don't I I never was proud of my sweet tooth, you know. (7:29) I always thought that that was not something to be proud of, really. (7:32) So I don't know why I would tell somebody that.

Rachel (7:34) I I thought the doctor thought I was eating too much sugar.

Scott Benner (7:36) My last question around this part, which by the way, this is fascinating. (7:39) You've started with such a nice thing is, did you wonder about it moving forward or did you put it out of your head?

Rachel (7:44) I had always kept it in mind, like, that he said I should watch my sugar intake. (7:50) So it's something like that I, you know, I had to keep in mind just because my I I was always scared to get become overweight and not be healthy and all that stuff. (8:00) So when he said that, I was like, oh, that's kinda scary. (8:02) So it's always been in my head. (8:03) Now that I've been, like, a super dieter or had, like, any eating disorders, but as I think any young girl is gonna have that in her mind, like, what she eats and that fear, I think.

Scott Benner (8:15) It's just such a strange thing to was it a guy or a woman, the doctor?

Rachel (8:18) It was on my end.

Scott Benner (8:19) Because I'm sitting I'm sitting here thinking, my wife and I have known each other thirty years. (8:26) I have an amazing relationship with my daughter. (8:29) And if I looked at either of them, it was like, somebody's a little sugar monster. (8:33) I mean, they put a pillow over my head while I was sleeping. (8:36) So that's a a really strange way to try to get it through to somebody.

Scott Benner (8:40) So anyway and and without context, because they could have said, you know, your a one c is elevated.

Rachel (8:46) Right. (8:46) Yeah. (8:47) And there was none of that explanation. (8:49) And I wish I had known the questions asked, but when you're 18, the doctor tells you you're a sugar monster. (8:54) You're not like, so what does that mean?

Rachel (8:55) Like, why are you why are you telling me that? (8:57) You know? (8:58) Exactly what do you think? (8:59) So you I didn't have the understanding to advocate for myself and be like, can you, tell me a little bit more about why you think that?

Scott Benner (9:04) I mean, you didn't do anything wrong. (9:06) I mean Yeah. (9:06) This is okay. (9:07) Alright. (9:07) What happens to you're 18, then what's your next touch what's your next touch point in the story?

Rachel (9:12) Yeah. (9:12) Okay. (9:13) So then I get married, and I get knocked up real quick because I love my husband. (9:18) And and, like, it was, like, my birthday, and they called me my midwife, they called me, and they're like, so you have gestational diabetes? (9:27) And I was like, no.

Rachel (9:28) That's rude. (9:29) No. (9:30) Thank you. (9:30) And I continued to eat things and stuff. (9:33) And then I go to my appointment, and they're like, this is serious.

Rachel (9:35) You need to take this seriously. (9:37) And I was like, oh gosh. (9:38) Okay. (9:40) And so, yeah, I ended up getting, and I'm saying this in air quotes because we know that's not true. (9:46) Gestational diabetes.

Rachel (9:47) I don't wanna say traumatic. (9:49) I think that's overused. (9:50) But it was really, really mentally tolling because I could not eat a lick of ketchup without my blood sugar shooting up. (9:59) I could only I would eat meat and vegetables, and my blood sugar would shoot up.

Scott Benner (10:03) Right.

Rachel (10:03) I could not eat anything without real every single day. (10:06) It was so infuriating, and I was so just upset and, like, torn every day because I tried so hard. (10:13) I exercised. (10:14) I ate so I just literally ate meat and vegetables. (10:17) And, like, I would wake up and get my fasting numbers would be off, and I would just start the day so bad.

Rachel (10:23) And I ended up because I was at a birth center, and my numbers had to be, like, perfect to be able to have a kid at a birth center. (10:31) They ended up kicking me out and which was really sad because I was like, I was, like, 19, and I didn't know anything. (10:38) And I was like, these people that I had been with my whole pregnancy had just kicked me out and I was like, what, thirty six, thirty seven weeks. (10:45) I don't know. (10:45) Thirty six, thirty five weeks, something like that.

Rachel (10:47) And so I was like, oh, I guess I'll just

Scott Benner (10:49) Wait. (10:49) Wait. (10:49) Hold on. (10:50) So you're 19 and you're a birth center. (10:52) You have to tell me what a birth center is.

Rachel (10:54) Birth center is kind of in between having a home birth and a hospital.

Scott Benner (10:58) Okay.

Rachel (10:58) I like to go a lot more natural, so I had intended to have a home birth. (11:02) But we were living with my in laws at the time, and they weren't comfortable. (11:05) So I was gonna go to a birth center instead. (11:07) So it's kind of all set up like a house and it's very like, think like a cottage feel. (11:12) So everything's very cozy and nice.

Rachel (11:14) Yeah. (11:14) Go ahead.

Scott Benner (11:15) Tell me about the day at 19. (11:17) Are you married at 19?

Rachel (11:18) Oh, yeah. (11:19) Yes. (11:19) Hot damn. (11:19) I'm I'm married really good. (11:21) Okay.

Rachel (11:21) Like, we've been married for, seven years. (11:23) We've been together for, eight years.

Scott Benner (11:24) You're 19. (11:24) I love him so much. (11:25) I I know. (11:26) You really do love that guy. (11:27) I'm gonna find out why later.

Scott Benner (11:27) I love him.

Rachel (11:28) Yeah. (11:28) Yeah. (11:28) He's amazing. (11:29) Incredible.

Scott Benner (11:30) You're 19. (11:31) You're married living with your in laws. (11:32) And you say, hey. (11:33) Can we set a baby pool up in here so I can give birth? (11:36) And I just wanna know what they said.

Rachel (11:37) Well, listen. (11:39) I'm not okay. (11:40) Maybe I shouldn't say this. (11:41) You said okay. (11:41) Never mind.

Rachel (11:42) Let's just say, yeah, they weren't comfortable with that because that's not how their culture is.

Scott Benner (11:46) Okay.

Rachel (11:47) And my culture, my mom has had well, she we I my family is blended, but we have 10 they have 10 kids in total. (11:55) So and all four of them, I think, she's had at home.

Scott Benner (11:59) So Is this just a thing that you grew up with. (12:01) You wanted to keep doing it. (12:02) It was different for them. (12:03) They were like, no. (12:04) Thank you.

Scott Benner (12:05) You somehow found a cottage to give birth in.

Rachel (12:08) And When you say it like that, sounds really, like, fairy tale like Disney.

Scott Benner (12:11) I mean, you used the word.

Rachel (12:13) I did.

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Rachel (14:55) Yes. (14:55) Yeah. (14:55) Well, because, yeah, if your blood sugar isn't well, you know, you've talked to Jenny. (14:59) If your blood sugar is in range, then it's not safe to you know, there's risks. (15:03) You need

Scott Benner (15:04) to have a bigger baby. (15:05) Right.

Rachel (15:05) All the things. (15:06) Yeah. (15:06) So for having that birth at a birth center, it's just not their liability is at risk. (15:12) Okay. (15:13) All that.

Rachel (15:13) Yep. (15:13) Whatever.

Scott Benner (15:14) I got it. (15:14) Keep going. (15:14) Thank you.

Rachel (15:16) Yes. (15:16) Of course. (15:16) Yeah. (15:16) So I end up having the baby at the hospital. (15:18) Everything's fine.

Rachel (15:19) She's healthy. (15:20) She's super awesome. (15:21) So I had, like, such a bad experience with the gestational that I just completely ignore everything. (15:26) They I think they did do that three after you have a baby, if you have gestational, do the they'll do, like, a three month I think it was a one c check. (15:33) They'll do an a one c check.

Rachel (15:34) They said it was fine

Scott Benner (15:35) Mhmm.

Rachel (15:36) At that point, and then I just completely ignored it because it was so not fun. (15:40) And then I got pregnant again with my son. (15:45) I totally expected to have the gestational. (15:48) And I this is funny. (15:49) I remember, like, walking into the doctor's office, getting a blood test done, or having bringing her my fasting, I think it was.

Rachel (15:57) And she was like, oh my gosh. (15:58) You're sick. (15:59) And I was like, yeah. (16:00) I know. (16:01) Isn't that great?

Rachel (16:02) I totally expected this. (16:03) And I was, like, actually psychotic on and she finally looked at me like I was crazy because I was just there so happy to be pregnant. (16:09) And she's like, you're sick. (16:10) And I'm like, isn't it great? (16:11) But yeah.

Rachel (16:13) So, anyway, that happens. (16:16) And so I know exactly what to expect, exactly what I need to do. (16:19) I put off treating it because, basically, you treat gestational like a type two, you know, exercise, eating well. (16:25) So I kinda put it off because, like, I swear, when I was eating with my first one, it was just meat and veggies. (16:31) It was so hard.

Rachel (16:32) I'm just not cool like that. (16:33) Well, whoever the people who do that, they're really cool, but it was really hard. (16:36) Okay. (16:36) When I'm when you're young, you like you like eating things, and I you know? (16:41) Mhmm.

Rachel (16:41) I put it off for a while, but I found my midwife here and in Arizona because We used to live in Washington,

Scott Benner (16:48) so we

Rachel (16:48) live in Arizona now. (16:49) And she was really great. (16:50) She actually has type two, and so she was willing to help me through the gestational. (16:56) And she was, like, so wonderful. (16:57) She taught me so much and helped me so much more than that other place had ever in at all.

Rachel (17:03) It was really fantastic experience. (17:05) So I actually got to do a home birth with him. (17:07) And then, of course, again, like I said, I was really this whole experience, being pregnant and and having gestational supposedly, was really difficult. (17:17) And so I just, like, put off put off getting tested, and I never got tested. (17:22) And I actually accidentally got pregnant again, like, nine months later, whoopsies, with my third my third kid.

Rachel (17:32) And, of course, expected the gestational, did the whole thing. (17:36) It was the toughest one yet. (17:37) I had to exercise until I literally the, like, the day before I popped, I was exercising every single day. (17:45) No breaks because it was that hard to keep my blood sugar under control

Scott Benner (17:49) Okay.

Rachel (17:49) Just to even keep it somewhat in range, like having that fasting or meals was vital. (17:55) So I exercised every single day. (17:57) I ate only meat and vegetables and, like, no carbs whatsoever. (18:01) Absolutely done.

Scott Benner (18:01) How do you measure blood sugar? (18:03) Do like, I mean, the first time, they must give you a meter. (18:06) Right? (18:06) But does the second time get you to a CGM or the third time?

Rachel (18:09) Well, I think because it even though it was only six years ago, a lot of things have changed in the medical area for CGMs and devices and things like that. (18:20) Yeah. (18:20) So when I had my first one, it was still a little old school, I think, and it was all finger pokes, and that was it. (18:27) So which is kind of refreshing because I wonder if I had CGM. (18:30) Like, they could have seen that I was doing a lot better because all they see is those spikes and the fasting, and, like, they didn't see anything in between, which I think could have shown a lot better.

Scott Benner (18:38) Might have helped something. (18:39) Yeah.

Rachel (18:39) Probably. (18:41) That's fine. (18:41) Then the third one, it was closer to the end. (18:43) I got a Libre, and that was the best thing in the entire world. (18:47) It helped so so much.

Rachel (18:49) Sure. (18:49) It was incredible. (18:51) And I was so spoiled. (18:52) I was like, if I ever have to have any more babies, I'm getting CGM. (18:56) And that was when I thought I still had whatever type I don't know.

Rachel (19:01) Whatever that was.

Scott Benner (19:01) What did you think by then? (19:03) Like, you're three pregnancies into this. (19:04) It's happened to you each time. (19:06) Right? (19:06) In between, you don't know what's happening because you're kinda not looking on purpose.

Scott Benner (19:09) Also Yeah. (19:10) Speaking of kinda not looking on purpose, does that third baby, like what do you mean you got pregnant by mistake? (19:14) What does that mean?

Rachel (19:16) Well, it means I really love my husband, Scott. (19:18) K. (19:19) It really I just love him so much. (19:21) Well, actually so I hadn't hadn't got my period back yet, and and you ovulate, you know, before you have your period. (19:28) And I'm a say it was the Lord.

Rachel (19:30) The Lord just

Scott Benner (19:31) Rachel, when he makes that face, you can just kinda push with your hands, you know, just

Rachel (19:37) that's not fun. (19:38) It's more fun, you know. (19:39) Anyway, I'm okay. (19:41) Scott, you're gonna really love this. (19:43) I'm pregnant again.

Scott Benner (19:44) Of course, you are.

Rachel (19:46) I'm pregnant right now as we speak.

Scott Benner (19:48) How pregnant are you?

Rachel (19:50) Only six weeks, but I did get the bible, pregnancy with type one d diabetes by Ginger Viera and Jennifer c Smith. (19:57) I have it right next to me.

Scott Benner (19:58) Awesome.

Rachel (19:59) So we're reading that. (20:01) Thank you, Jenny. (20:02) If you're listening, which you're probably not, but thank you. (20:04) Hey. (20:04) Love

Scott Benner (20:04) you. (20:04) She listens sometimes. (20:06) Alright. (20:06) Hold on a second. (20:07) So this during the third pregnancy, are you seeing numbers that are different than before, or are they pretty consistent with the other pregnancies?

Rachel (20:16) Oh, no. (20:16) It I think it was I don't wanna say it was different, but I was working a lot harder.

Scott Benner (20:25) Okay.

Rachel (20:25) I had to work a lot harder. (20:27) And I had the CGM, and that yes. (20:30) You know, it's, incredible device, so that helped so much. (20:34) It's funny. (20:34) My midwife, she was really cool.

Rachel (20:35) She was like, hey. (20:36) Wake up. (20:36) I'll set your alarm for, like, 3AM. (20:38) Take those good numbers. (20:40) If there's fasting at 3AM and it's good number, take that shit.

Rachel (20:43) Because, you know, I really wanted a home birth, and you have to be at a certain in a certain range.

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Rachel (21:53) I thought I was just a person that got gestational diabetes k. (21:57) Because I didn't wanna look in between. (22:00) I know I needed to look in between, but, honestly, the diabetes during pregnancy was so stressful and so difficult. (22:06) As we know, we know why now. (22:08) Spike was closing my eyes to it and just Yeah.

Rachel (22:10) I'm just the person that gets gestational blah blah blah blah blah, you know, being stupid, of course.

Scott Benner (22:14) You believe there was a bigger issue, but you didn't have the the nerve to look into it.

Rachel (22:18) Yeah. (22:19) A 100%. (22:19) Okay. (22:20) Yeah. (22:20) That's you're right.

Scott Benner (22:21) So then what's the issue? (22:22) I mean, listen. (22:23) Yeah. (22:23) I'm not calling you out. (22:24) You're telling a good story.

Scott Benner (22:25) We all hear it. (22:26) Yeah. (22:26) What's the expectation that you would find if you looked?

Rachel (22:30) Crap.

Scott Benner (22:33) You just thought you'd get bad news?

Rachel (22:35) I thought I would get bad news. (22:36) Yeah.

Scott Benner (22:36) You didn't Google it or ask a friend or anything?

Rachel (22:41) No. (22:42) Okay. (22:43) I knew. (22:43) I knew, and I just didn't wanna know.

Scott Benner (22:45) Okay.

Rachel (22:45) You

Scott Benner (22:45) know? (22:46) Alright. (22:46) I hear you. (22:46) Okay. (22:47) I'm sorry.

Scott Benner (22:47) Go ahead. (22:48) How does the third birth go?

Rachel (22:51) So everything went great. (22:52) Beautifully perfect. (22:54) Yeah. (22:54) It was great. (22:55) So go no.

Rachel (22:56) So that was my second home birth. (22:58) It was wonderful. (22:59) I actually was kinda fun, but that's besides the point.

Scott Benner (23:03) Last question. (23:03) Do you buy your own pool because you figure, gotta stop renting these? (23:07) I'm gonna be using this a lot?

Rachel (23:08) Honestly, Scott, I just lay down like a cow and just let baby come out.

Scott Benner (23:12) Wait. (23:13) On your hands and knees?

Rachel (23:14) No. (23:15) Just lay down, like, on my I just, like, get my Squishmallows, put a pillow over my head, and have a baby.

Scott Benner (23:20) I have to tell you, there's there's a type one who's also a doula who I must have, like, must have followed me on Instagram at some point. (23:29) And I I liked a couple of her posts and now I get a lot of them. (23:32) And you can and you can it's not really handy for me because I I will never have a baby, and, I think Kelly is, is pretty past that.

Rachel (23:41) I was gonna say, Kelly's probably a little bit

Scott Benner (23:44) Yeah.

Rachel (23:44) Done with that.

Scott Benner (23:45) She's a little too ripe going back to the Bulls for Banana episode. (23:48) And so she's got little brown spots on her now. (23:50) She can't have any more babies.

Rachel (23:51) I don't I hope she doesn't she doesn't listen to these. (23:52) Right? (23:53) You know? (23:53) She's not gonna listen

Scott Benner (23:54) I mean, I don't even think she knows I do this. (23:57) I get her in my feed sometimes. (23:59) Right? (23:59) And, basically, I only have a I have an Instagram feed of, like, people who follow me and people with diabetes. (24:05) Like, I don't, like, pretty much use Instagram for anything else.

Scott Benner (24:08) I I've learned through this that you can have a baby in a number of different positions that I did not expect. (24:13) You can. (24:14) Yeah. (24:15) Like, some I see people on their hands and knees. (24:17) I see people, like, half standing in a chair, like, squatting.

Scott Benner (24:21) There's all kinds of is it just whatever's comfortable for you? (24:24) Like, what puts you in the best comfort position, you think?

Rachel (24:27) For me, yeah. (24:27) But some people it just depends on the baby too. (24:30) Like, what's what's the baby up to? (24:31) If they need a little bit of help, then a a different position might help the baby come out.

Scott Benner (24:36) Little gravity? (24:37) Maybe throw some gravity on the whole thing?

Rachel (24:39) Exactly. (24:40) Yeah. (24:40) Okay. (24:40) That's right. (24:41) And it also, like, the biggest thing too is being relaxed.

Rachel (24:44) And I know that's hard to

Scott Benner (24:45) It's hard to relax.

Rachel (24:46) Imagine when you're in labor. (24:48) But, yeah, the biggest thing is being relaxed because, that's how my mom my mom taught me how to give birth. (24:53) So it's it's I know it's called it's kinda funny. (24:55) It's called the Bradley method, but, basically, you just start relaxing your body head to toe, and that's kinda what you're thinking about as you're going through labor. (25:02) You're just, like, going up your body.

Rachel (25:04) Like, are my toes relaxed? (25:05) Are my eyebrows relaxed? (25:06) Is my my arms, my fingers, everything relaxed? (25:09) Yeah. (25:09) And that just gets the baby right out.

Rachel (25:10) Just lad right out.

Scott Benner (25:11) Nice. (25:12) Kinda like an awake meditation almost.

Rachel (25:14) Uh-huh. (25:14) It's probably I haven't looked into it much, but it sounds similar to hypnobirthing. (25:18) I I imagine that's what it's like. (25:19) You kinda just, like, meditating almost and and just, like yeah. (25:23) It's it's cool.

Rachel (25:24) I actually almost fell asleep at the end of my last one. (25:26) I was about to fall asleep, and then the midwife was like, hey. (25:28) You was about to come out. (25:29) Was like, dang it. (25:29) I was about to fall asleep, bro.

Scott Benner (25:31) That would be a baller move to fall asleep like that. (25:34) Just be like, I'll just nappy through this.

Rachel (25:36) Yeah. (25:36) Right? (25:37) Yeah. (25:37) It's hard work.

Scott Benner (25:38) I feel like a king when I fall asleep during, like, a root canal or something like that. (25:42) I'm like, I'm so unbothered by this. (25:44) I'm gonna take a nap.

Rachel (25:45) Yeah. (25:45) That's incredible. (25:47) Love that for you.

Scott Benner (25:48) Thank you. (25:48) How big were the babies? (25:49) Like, were they reasonably sized? (25:51) Were they larger than you were hoping?

Rachel (25:53) This might not be interesting to you, but I think it's kinda interesting.

Scott Benner (25:56) Mhmm.

Rachel (25:56) My first one, she so I didn't start, oh, I didn't know until I was in the third trimester that I had, in air quotes again, gestational. (26:04) So she was six pounds six ounces. (26:07) And then my second, I started taking care of that a little sooner, probably more towards the middle of the second trimester, maybe the second trimester ish. (26:14) And he was, like, six pounds three ounces maybe. (26:18) But this last one, which is really interesting because I worked my butt off, like I said, literally every day, he was five pounds.

Scott Benner (26:27) Are these full term, all of them?

Rachel (26:29) Full term. (26:30) Well, I have my babies a little early. (26:32) I cook them fast about thirty seven weeks. (26:34) My my longest one was thirty eight weeks. (26:36) So they just come right out.

Rachel (26:37) Yeah. (26:37) They just come on right out.

Scott Benner (26:38) But they come out when Jesus wants them. (26:39) It's not like you you're not getting, what's the word? (26:42) Where they make you go sooner.

Rachel (26:44) No. (26:44) No. (26:45) No. (26:45) I don't I never have gotten induced.

Scott Benner (26:46) Yeah. (26:46) Okay. (26:47) Yeah.

Rachel (26:47) They just my water broke in this morning.

Scott Benner (26:49) How about your did your mom have small kids?

Rachel (26:52) Not super big. (26:53) I think, like, her biggest one probably was eight pounds or something.

Scott Benner (26:56) But but larger than yours, though.

Rachel (26:59) Yeah. (26:59) Interesting. (27:00) But she's a bigger woman. (27:01) She's she's, like, decently tall.

Scott Benner (27:04) So Okay. (27:04) Alright. (27:05) I hear it. (27:05) Do you know how big your husband was when he came out?

Rachel (27:08) I don't know, but my husband is kind he's, like, five nine. (27:14) Okay. (27:15) A little on the shorter side. (27:16) Okay.

Scott Benner (27:16) Alright. (27:17) This is interesting. (27:17) Okay. (27:18) So third one zips out. (27:21) Is this when you talk yourself into checking your blood sugar and talking to a doctor again?

Rachel (27:25) Yes. (27:25) Because I knew it was yeah. (27:27) I knew I needed to take care it. (27:29) It was it was very obvious, especially because, you know, after if you have gestational diabetes, after you give birth, your blood sugar should go right back to normal essentially a couple hours after at the very most. (27:40) Yeah.

Rachel (27:40) Maybe, I think, maybe a week, but I think that's I'm not sure about that. (27:44) Don't quote me. (27:45) And I had a well, again, a reminder, labor is really hard work, but I ate an entire chicken bake in one sitting, and that my blood sugar was funny. (27:56) My alarm, like, thirty minutes later, was like, and I was like, oh, shoot. (28:01) That's not a good sign.

Rachel (28:02) It was, like, 300 or 200 or something. (28:04) And I was like, we'll just ignore that. (28:07) Let's just turn that off. (28:08) We don't need to worry about that right now. (28:10) I'm taking care of a baby.

Scott Benner (28:12) What pushed you to do it, though? (28:14) Like, what pushed you to go ask?

Rachel (28:16) Oh, I don't know. (28:17) I just knew I needed to. (28:18) It was just it was just like it'd been, like you said, three times, and I just knew my blood sugar wasn't getting better after the birth. (28:26) Like, I think I checked it, a week or two after as well, and it was still elevated. (28:30) So I just knew I needed to.

Scott Benner (28:32) Okay. (28:33) And you're today, you're 26 years old? (28:36) Yeah. (28:37) Okay. (28:37) So you've had three kids, one on the way.

Scott Benner (28:41) By the time you're 27, you'll have had four kids.

Rachel (28:44) Yes, sir.

Scott Benner (28:45) We done, That's pretty I mean, listen. (28:48) It's very efficient.

Rachel (28:50) Thank you. (28:50) I have tried. (28:51) Like, I was like, sir, we need to get on this. (28:54) He had me take, like, a three year break between the first two, and I was like, this is I don't know about this man.

Scott Benner (28:58) He's probably trying to save money. (28:59) Don't you think?

Rachel (29:00) Yeah. (29:01) I he's he's way smarter than me. (29:03) He's, like, actually financially responsible and, like

Scott Benner (29:05) Maybe we ought to try to figure out how to pay for these kids.

Rachel (29:08) He that is a good point. (29:11) Okay? (29:12) Listen, the biological clock is a real thing. (29:15) And also, I'm a diabetic, so I need to get these babies out because it ain't gonna get easier.

Scott Benner (29:19) How many more how many more do we need?

Rachel (29:21) Okay. (29:21) Listen, honestly, if if we have any more, my husband might go get the milk one day and not come back. (29:26) So I don't he's threatening to get snipped.

Scott Benner (29:29) So four. (29:30) Four is our number.

Rachel (29:31) That's what he says.

Scott Benner (29:33) Okay.

Rachel (29:33) I'm I'm just saying I'm leaving my heart open for if the Lord wants to bless us. (29:38) No. (29:39) Okay. (29:40) He's maybe not leaving his self open.

Scott Benner (29:42) No. (29:42) No. (29:42) It sounds it sounds like he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna take a rock and smash his penis is what it sounds like he's gonna do. (29:49) My accent. (29:50) He might

Rachel (29:51) he's like, I don't need this anymore.

Scott Benner (29:52) So enough of this. (29:55) You go to a doctor? (29:55) Do you go to an urgent care? (29:57) How do you how do you get your whole thing going?

Rachel (29:59) Oh, Scott. (30:00) I hate this. (30:01) This is the worst part of the story because it drives me insane. (30:04) I wanna beat my head against the wall. (30:05) Okay.

Rachel (30:06) So very classic type two story. (30:08) This is where the classic part comes in. (30:09) Okay. (30:10) Three months postpartum, I go to the doctor and be like, sir, I have problems. (30:14) Please test my body.

Rachel (30:15) And they do testing, and they're like, yeah. (30:18) Stuff is elevated. (30:19) And I was like, okay. (30:20) I'll try and eat better, exercise better, blah blah blah blah blah. (30:23) So I do that.

Rachel (30:24) Things look a little bit better. (30:27) As I think I went in at five point eight maybe. (30:29) Yeah. (30:30) And then I think I got it I think I might have got it down a teensy bit, so I thought, okay. (30:34) Maybe this is working.

Rachel (30:36) And then at the holidays, it went all to poop. (30:40) This is when I believe my pancreas said, I'm not doing this anymore. (30:44) I'm done with you. (30:45) Holidays, absolute poop. (30:47) And I went into the doctor, like, twice in that time being like, I don't understand what's going on.

Rachel (30:52) I do not eat McDonald's every day. (30:53) I don't sit on my butt all day long. (30:55) I exercise. (30:56) I eat well. (30:56) I just don't understand.

Rachel (30:57) Like, I'm trying so hard to take care of myself, and I don't get this. (31:01) And so I'm, like, literally crying because my surely, blood sugar is insane and my hormones are going crazy. (31:07) And so they put me oh, this makes me so bad. (31:10) Instead of just testing my secret antibodies like a normal person should, like a doctor should immediately do, they give me metformin.

Scott Benner (31:19) Okay.

Rachel (31:19) So annoyed. (31:20) Well It's like, bro.

Scott Benner (31:21) Don't you think that makes sense though for what they were saying

Rachel (31:23) or no? (31:24) No. (31:25) Because if somebody is fairly young listen. (31:29) They had also tested my blood. (31:30) My thyroid was a little off.

Rachel (31:32) My vitamin d was a little off. (31:33) Mhmm. (31:33) My blood sugars were insane. (31:35) I'm young. (31:35) I'm healthy.

Rachel (31:36) Generally, besides that, I have a good weight. (31:38) Scott, you could have looked at me and told me I had diabetes. (31:42) You you are not I know you're not a doctor, but you could have looked at me. (31:46) A person that has had diabetes for a single year, not just myself, ten months, I could have looked at me and I could have said you you have diabetes.

Scott Benner (31:53) Have diabetes. (31:54) Bit of hindsight, you can see what they didn't see.

Rachel (31:56) And I'm not a doctor. (31:58) Like, this is what drives me. (31:59) So every podcast you talk about this, I'm like, you are so right because why can somebody who's had diabetes for, like, two seconds see type one diabetes and a doctor who's been doing doctor stuff for a while not see it? (32:10) And it's, like, a common disease.

Scott Benner (32:12) Is this the same doctor that said you what did he say about the the sugar?

Rachel (32:16) The sugar monster. (32:17) No. (32:17) That was

Scott Benner (32:18) That's not the sugar is it the same area?

Rachel (32:20) Like No. (32:21) I'm in Arizona. (32:21) That was in Washington.

Scott Benner (32:22) Okay. (32:23) So there was a it's not like you're in the same place. (32:26) No. (32:26) Okay. (32:27) You are you paying for your health care with, like, I don't know.

Scott Benner (32:29) Are you trading for vegetables? (32:31) Do you like, how are you is it a real is it a hospital?

Rachel (32:34) This is a real doctor in my town. (32:36) We live in a small town, so I don't know if that makes that shouldn't matter. (32:40) But

Scott Benner (32:40) Yeah. (32:40) You wouldn't think. (32:41) Well, you would hope, I guess.

Rachel (32:42) Yeah. (32:43) You would hope. (32:43) But yeah. (32:44) So it just really frustrates me because there's all these signs. (32:47) And if they had just tested my antibodies, it's not that hard to test your you take some blood.

Rachel (32:53) That's it. (32:54) It's not that. (32:54) And I even asked for it, and they did it. (32:57) And they never got the results back to me.

Scott Benner (32:59) Where did you wait. (33:00) Wait. (33:01) Wait. (33:01) Where did you find out that that was the thing you could ask for? (33:03) Did you finally, go to the Internet?

Rachel (33:06) In this process, because my doctor was saying that we were when I had first got in, we were trying to figure out what I had, if I had type two or not or whatever. (33:17) I wanted to find a little bit of support, so I went on Facebook and I was like, hey. (33:20) Any other moms with diabetes in this area? (33:23) And so there was actually several moms who had type one, and they thankfully welcomed me into their arms. (33:29) We had, like, a little Facebook chat.

Rachel (33:31) And one of the moms, she's, I I don't know, probably 30, and she got diagnosed, I think it was five or six years ago. (33:38) And, also, they thought she had type two. (33:41) Mhmm. (33:41) And she's like, hey, girl. (33:43) You should just get your antibodies tested and get this, Scott.

Rachel (33:45) You know what I said to her? (33:47) I said, wouldn't I be suffering more if I had type one diabetes?

Scott Benner (33:51) She didn't know about Lada.

Rachel (33:54) Probably not. (33:55) Well, she I mean, I don't know if she knew about because she had it. (33:58) So

Scott Benner (33:59) Yeah. (33:59) I mean, maybe. (34:00) Who knows? (34:01) Right? (34:01) Yeah.

Scott Benner (34:01) And so why did you think that?

Rachel (34:02) Don't

Scott Benner (34:03) know. (34:03) What was your back then before you knew feeling about, like, oh, no. (34:07) If I had type one, I'd be somehow worse off?

Rachel (34:10) Well, it's that stigma. (34:11) Like, it's kids. (34:11) It's always kids that get type one. (34:13) You never hear about adults. (34:15) And so I and they're, like, on their deathbed, and they're, like, sick and, you know, and

Scott Benner (34:20) That's how they get diagnosed.

Rachel (34:22) Right. (34:22) Exactly. (34:23) And I So

Scott Benner (34:23) that you knew about.

Rachel (34:24) Leading up to it because Latta is so slow, and I think that's what I've had this whole time, obviously, even when I was 18. (34:30) I think that was in the first or second stage. (34:33) So it's just been slowly going. (34:34) And, you know, probably each pregnancy, my pancreas has been like, help me. (34:38) You know?

Rachel (34:40) And, yeah, here I just died. (34:42) And so I was but I was doing okay. (34:44) I was feeling fine until they put me on the metformin. (34:47) And the metformin, since it's meant for type two, it supposedly can really mess up a type one, and it messed me up so bad. (34:53) I was so, so sick.

Rachel (34:55) Like, I had lost I was, like, a hundred and twenty five, and I was down to a hundred pounds when I was admitted. (35:01) And I could barely move. (35:03) I could barely get up every day. (35:05) I could I was so tired.

Scott Benner (35:07) I'll stop you there, Ray. (35:08) I don't think that's the metformin. (35:09) I think that's the your pancreas doing less and less work because there are there are plenty of type ones that take metformin for insulin resistance. (35:17) So there are some people that take metformin prophylactically for reasons that I don't even know are are real. (35:23) I'm not sure if they're even real or not.

Scott Benner (35:24) So that's a fairly well tolerated drug. (35:27) I think you were just slipping further and further closer and closer to probably you know, you're probably working your way very slowly towards DKA is what I would expect.

Rachel (35:36) I hear you on that. (35:37) Yeah. (35:37) And my theory is just that since I've heard that metformin can mess up a type one, my theory is that before I I swear, before I got in that metformin, I felt okay. (35:47) Like, I was fine. (35:48) And then, like, immediately when I got on it is when I started feeling really, really sick, and, like, I couldn't eat in that

Scott Benner (35:55) I was gonna say, did did it mess with your stomach and you weren't able to eat?

Rachel (35:59) Yeah. (35:59) I couldn't eat, and it was refreshing because, like, all I could tolerate was, like, toast. (36:02) And I was like, this is not helping me with my diabetes because all I could eat is toast or nothing.

Scott Benner (36:07) Got it. (36:08) I take that back then. (36:09) Then that makes more that makes sense that way. (36:11) I misunderstood you, I guess, thing. (36:12) But go ahead.

Rachel (36:13) And you're probably right. (36:14) You're probably I'm sure I think I've heard some type ones use it, so maybe it's different people, but I think it just messed with me. (36:21) Maybe you're right. (36:21) So sorry. (36:21) I just get really passionate about it because No.

Rachel (36:24) It's fine. (36:24) Passionate about diabetes. (36:26) That's why I asked to do the interview with you when you said there was an opening because I just love to talk about diabetes. (36:32) I love to help like, if I can help people, I wanna help them. (36:35) Like, even when I got pregnant the first time after I had my daughter, I didn't feel like I'd gotten the help I needed.

Rachel (36:40) I've always had in mind someday that I would get involved helping moms with type with type one or I was gestational or whatever. (36:49) Just diabetes. (36:50) Like, wanna help other people with diabetes because I didn't feel like I got the help.

Scott Benner (36:54) I wanna tell you. (36:54) I think in general, you seem passionate about a lot of different things.

Rachel (36:58) Oh, like what? (36:58) Like my husband?

Scott Benner (36:59) About being a mom, about your your husband. (37:01) You said more nice things about your husband in the last, forty five minutes than my wife said about me in my entire life. (37:06) I mean, babies, being a mom. (37:08) Right?

Rachel (37:09) Like I love you.

Scott Benner (37:10) Yeah. (37:10) You seem you seem, like, aggressively passionate about a number of different things.

Rachel (37:13) You know, when you say the word aggressively passionate, that doesn't give me good energy, but I know I think you have good energy behind it, so I'll take it.

Scott Benner (37:19) No. (37:20) I mean it that way. (37:20) I mean, like, you just feel, like, you really feel, like, positive.

Rachel (37:24) Yeah. (37:24) So I'm very so, yeah, I am very passionate about that. (37:26) I I really I love my family. (37:28) I love my kids. (37:29) I love being a mother.

Rachel (37:30) I I go to bed every night. (37:32) Thank god that I have these beautiful kids. (37:34) And I I'm I know. (37:36) Sorry. (37:36) It's not super religious podcast or anything like that, but I do feel like the lord blessed me in not getting that type one right away, like, having that lad that I was able to have these three beautiful kids first Yeah.

Rachel (37:46) And have the home birth and everything. (37:48) And here we are now with this fourth one, and this is gonna be a whole new adventure. (37:52) It's gonna be hard, but it's gonna if I am gonna help people in the future, this is gonna really add to that experience too and be able to help more moms. (37:59) Like, I love what Jenny does. (38:01) I feel like she's really an inspiration, and you're an inspiration too.

Rachel (38:03) And I just you guys that's why I love the podcast because it's, what I wanna do some days is help people. (38:10) I love it. (38:10) He's so fantastic.

Scott Benner (38:11) You don't have to apologize for telling me about your religion. (38:14) That's Okay. (38:15) Yeah. (38:15) I don't I I listen. (38:16) I interviewed Noah Gray recently.

Scott Benner (38:18) He talked about it every eighteen seconds. (38:21) I thought it was him sharing his story. (38:24) I had the same thing I think think about you or anybody else. (38:26) I don't I have I ever come across in the podcast, like, I didn't want somebody to talk about their religion?

Rachel (38:30) No. (38:31) I just don't wanna I just wanna make sure that you're comfortable to post this and it's not gonna step on advice to us.

Scott Benner (38:37) Yeah. (38:37) No. (38:37) I'm comfortable with it. (38:38) I've said in the past, and I know you haven't been listening that long. (38:41) Maybe you haven't gotten to it yet.

Scott Benner (38:43) Is that I I used to be like, a number of years ago, I was perplexed by how many deeply religious people like the podcast because I don't I'm not a religious person. (38:53) I'm outwardly honest about that. (38:56) I always just wondered, like, what is the vibe about like, because I'm like, something about the podcast is attractive to people who have, like, really, like, firmly held religious beliefs. (39:07) I've always been, like, not confused by it. (39:09) I think it's lovely.

Scott Benner (39:09) I just I don't I don't understand it.

Rachel (39:12) That's really interesting.

Scott Benner (39:13) Yeah. (39:13) I thought you'd be I thought they wouldn't like me is what I was saying.

Rachel (39:16) I think you're great. (39:17) You're really funny, and it's it's fantastic. (39:20) I love listening to you, and you're just here to help people and tell your experiences, and I think I think it's great.

Scott Benner (39:24) I stopped wondering about it a while ago.

Rachel (39:26) Oh, okay. (39:27) Well, never mind. (39:27) I won't talk about it anymore. (39:28) Thanks.

Scott Benner (39:28) Yeah. (39:28) Also, I'm huge in the Mormon community. (39:30) Hey, Mormons. (39:31) What's up?

Rachel (39:31) Oh, interesting. (39:32) LGS.

Scott Benner (39:32) What's going on? (39:34) They love me out there.

Rachel (39:35) Love that.

Scott Benner (39:35) And I take Why why they won't have me out for a talk? (39:37) I don't know. (39:38) I've never been approached. (39:39) Actually, that's not fair. (39:40) There I now know that there's somebody listening right now who's like, I've asked you to come out here and speak.

Rachel (39:44) Oh, no. (39:45) You're gonna get emails now. (39:46) Your inbox is filling up as we speak.

Scott Benner (39:48) What I meant was, you put an event together and then I come to it. (39:52) Not that I have to come and make the event. (39:53) I don't have that kind of juice. (39:54) You know what I mean?

Rachel (39:55) Yeah. (39:56) Yeah. (39:56) It's

Scott Benner (39:56) not fair. (39:57) I actually made the, I made the cruise happen. (40:00) I guess I could maybe I don't have that kind I don't have that kind of energy maybe is what we're talking about. (40:03) I don't have infrastructure is what I don't have, Rachel. (40:06) If there was a

Rachel (40:06) Oh, look at a cruise is pretty cool. (40:08) Like, that's That was a little bit different.

Scott Benner (40:10) But I didn't do the grunt work on that. (40:12) Somebody else did. (40:13) Suzanne did that. (40:15) Like, I guess if if somebody could, like, set up a bunch of, like, in person meetings, I'd show up and do a business. (40:20) Like, I'd do a thing.

Scott Benner (40:21) I have business So to talk.

Rachel (40:22) What you need is an unpaid intern to do all the legwork.

Scott Benner (40:25) Hey. (40:26) That's what

Rachel (40:26) I'm hearing.

Scott Benner (40:26) Actually, now the people who are listening to help with the Facebook group and other stuff are laughing. (40:30) Like, I am an unpaid intern. (40:32) Thanks. (40:33) No. (40:33) I just I think I'm at I'm at the edge of my ability to add more stuff to my day.

Rachel (40:39) Oh, yeah. (40:40) I can't imagine how busy you are. (40:41) Yeah.

Scott Benner (40:41) I think I could do other stuff if I wasn't doing a lot of the back end stuff. (40:45) But I don't think that a podcast about type one diabetes is ever gonna get to the size where it supports a staff of paid people. (40:54) You know what I mean? (40:55) Like, the the editor is is an expense, but I can swing that. (40:59) But I if you if you told me, like, I had to hire Rachel and, like, give her, you know, benefits and so I'd be like, I don't make that kind of money.

Scott Benner (41:06) So Mm-mm. (41:07) Yeah. (41:08) It's alright. (41:08) It's okay.

Rachel (41:09) The benefits that we would get from you is, like, Juicebox from Costco.

Scott Benner (41:13) Yeah. (41:13) But if you if you worked for me, you'd ex also expect medical benefits and and other stuff like that.

Rachel (41:19) Honestly, Apple juice should be a medical benefit at this point.

Scott Benner (41:22) It should be. (41:23) Right? (41:24) I've made that argument a couple of times, like, accountants and people like that. (41:28) I'm like, why can't we write off, like, our cell phones? (41:30) And, like and then I think I finally have done that.

Scott Benner (41:32) I think my I think I finally found somebody who was like, look. (41:34) That's a medical device. (41:35) I was like, yeah. (41:36) Right on. (41:36) Like, you just write off the cost of it, which is to say it's really the truth is is you don't really save much.

Scott Benner (41:43) But, you know, I think stuff like that counts. (41:45) Like, if the CGM is on there and the pump's on there, then there's an argument to be made that I I wouldn't need a phone if it wasn't for this. (41:52) So Mhmm. (41:53) I don't know. (41:54) I'm beginning of the tax code now, which is another thing I don't know anything about.

Scott Benner (41:57) Okay. (41:57) So where are we at? (41:59) Baby metformin? (42:01) I

Rachel (42:02) was just yeah. (42:04) So oh, go ahead.

Scott Benner (42:05) Wait. (42:05) When do you figure out it's not type two?

Rachel (42:08) Ugh. (42:09) Okay. (42:09) Anyway, so, basically, I'm struggling a bunch. (42:13) I can't even get up from a diaper change without using all my mental willpower. (42:17) So I go back to the doctor and I say, I need to get off of this medication because this is making me really, really sick.

Rachel (42:23) Because I thought this whole time I was on it for three weeks, I think. (42:25) I thought the whole time it was the medication that was making me that sick. (42:28) So I'm apparently really dumb. (42:30) And so they had me come in. (42:33) I think he did a blood test, but then I go home.

Rachel (42:36) And the next day, he calls me, and he's like, you need to go to the hospital. (42:38) I think you're in DKA. (42:40) And I was like, okay. (42:41) And he's like, that's where your blood is turning acidic. (42:43) And I'm like, oh, okay.

Rachel (42:45) That sounds scary. (42:47) So I go to the hospital, and so I get admitted and and all that fun stuff like that. (42:53) And the the whole time too, nobody wanted to test me for type one diabetes. (42:57) The whole time that I was, like, thinking, well, I think I just got diagnosed with type two, and they're like, okay. (43:02) Just accepting that.

Rachel (43:03) So it's all over my charts too, and I'm like, that's dumb. (43:06) But, yeah, they the whole time, they're like, giving me an insulin drip. (43:10) They think I'm type two so. (43:12) And went to the ICU. (43:14) Is there, like, overnight and then went to a regular room.

Rachel (43:18) And they were going to discharge me thinking again as a type two, only having me take home Lantus. (43:27) The doctor wanted the nurse how to show me wanted the nurse to show me how to use, a syringe to do it. (43:33) And she's like, hey. (43:34) I'm not really comfortable with this. (43:36) I feel like you need to see the diabetic educator.

Rachel (43:39) And the doctor was just gonna discharge me. (43:41) And but the nurse is like, no. (43:43) I think you really need to see the diabetic educator and stuff. (43:45) So she actually the nurse, I'm gonna say the nurse saved my life, basically, and and it helped me not get back into the hospital again by making sure I saw a diabetic educator and got that help from her. (43:57) So I stayed for, like, a whole another day to wait to see the diabetic educator.

Rachel (44:01) Mhmm. (44:02) And they brought her in. (44:03) She talked to me for, like, an hour and a half just like this lady was incredible. (44:08) Like, to so much information. (44:09) Just information dumped everything.

Rachel (44:11) And she looked at me, and she was like, you are ninety nine percent a type one diabetic. (44:17) I can almost guarantee it. (44:19) Like, if you're type two, I would be very surprised. (44:21) There's a small chance, but she looked at me and she's like, you're type one. (44:24) Yeah.

Rachel (44:24) And I looked I just, like, cried because it it just made sense, and I didn't understand because this whole time I've worked really hard and I I tried my best. (44:34) And then for her to tell me that is a was a relief in a way because it wasn't my fault. (44:41) And I'm so sorry to any type who I I don't wanna say it's your fault because sometimes it's not. (44:44) But, like, I had to end my mind this whole time because of the way I I thought maybe it was the way I had eaten when I was younger. (44:51) Like, it's my fault.

Rachel (44:52) And I just couldn't get that out of my head. (44:55) So when she told me that, it was such a relief. (44:57) It wasn't my fault.

Scott Benner (44:58) Yeah. (44:59) I would think not just that too, but all the effort you're putting into eating and exercising and everything like that probably felt like you were failing at that as well. (45:05) And now you see that that really wasn't, you know, gonna take care of things.

Rachel (45:10) Yeah. (45:10) It was it wasn't my fault. (45:12) You know?

Scott Benner (45:12) How long does the relief last, and when does it turn into, oh, crap. (45:15) I have type one diabetes?

Rachel (45:18) I think, in a way, it still is a relief because it's everybody's gonna be kill me if I say this. (45:29) But, honestly, Scott, this is easier in a way than having type two and not having the medication. (45:35) Because I was treating during my pregnancies, after my pregnancies, I was trying so, so hard. (45:41) I worked so hard, and that was so tiring mentally, physically, emotionally. (45:45) And now I have the right medicine I need, and I feel good, and I can exercise.

Rachel (45:49) I can eat pizza. (45:50) I can have cake. (45:51) Like, I can do these things and not feel guilty. (45:53) I can live my life and not feel guilty. (45:56) You could eat and not feel guilty.

Rachel (45:57) Sometimes it's getting a little bit harder now. (45:59) I think, you know, the relief maybe is wearing off a little bit, but it right now, it's just life, and I just feel blessed that I'm alive sometimes they think, wow, I should be dead. (46:09) This were a hundred plus years ago, I would be dead. (46:11) If I had these kids, I would have my husband wouldn't have me anymore. (46:14) Like

Scott Benner (46:15) I was wondering what he did just for the night you were in the ICU with those three kids.

Rachel (46:19) Oh, I don't know. (46:20) I don't know what they were. (46:21) Oh, it's oh, it's really sad. (46:22) Was my son's first birthday. (46:24) Was really sad.

Rachel (46:26) The day I went in.

Scott Benner (46:27) Are you a stay at home mom or do you work?

Rachel (46:29) I am a stay at home mom. (46:30) Praise Jesus.

Scott Benner (46:31) Well, no. (46:31) I mean, like, because that's what I was trying to say. (46:33) Was, like, you know, he might not have a whole lot of experience with those three small kids. (46:38) Right?

Rachel (46:39) Maybe. (46:41) My mom probably took it. (46:43) I think my mom took care

Scott Benner (46:43) of them.

Rachel (46:43) He was with me most of the time.

Scott Benner (46:45) You think your mom took care of him?

Rachel (46:47) Yeah. (46:47) She's really great. (46:48) We she lives three minutes away. (46:49) I hang out with her all the time.

Scott Benner (46:50) Okay. (46:51) Alright. (46:51) So his job is just basically to get your pregnant and pay for stuff?

Rachel (46:54) A 100%. (46:55) I call it smash and dash.

Scott Benner (46:58) Do you really call it that?

Rachel (47:00) I do. (47:01) I've told my friends about it. (47:02) I have another friend whose husband is only home on the weekends, and he as well does the smash and dash. (47:07) Classic smash and dash.

Scott Benner (47:08) The classic smash and dash.

Rachel (47:10) No. (47:11) I think everybody knows how much I love my husband. (47:13) I'm very open about that.

Scott Benner (47:14) You think your mom thinks you've had sex four times and each time you've gotten pregnant?

Rachel (47:18) No. (47:18) No. (47:19) My mom would never think that. (47:20) But she's she's special. (47:22) She's real special.

Rachel (47:22) She's she's very she's more open about sex than anybody in my entire life.

Scott Benner (47:25) Well, she's got like, you said it's a blended family, but how many kids did your mom have?

Rachel (47:29) She has six.

Scott Benner (47:30) Okay. (47:30) And she and she found a guy with four?

Rachel (47:33) Yep. (47:33) My dad had four before they got married.

Scott Benner (47:35) Oh. (47:35) Oh, you're you're her I see. (47:38) Your father had four before he met your mom.

Rachel (47:41) Mhmm. (47:41) And my mom had one, and then they got together and they didn't hit us.

Scott Benner (47:45) And they made Mars. (47:45) I gotcha. (47:46) Yeah. (47:46) Did they have pets when they got together?

Rachel (47:49) Oh, I don't know. (47:50) But they had pets when I was growing up.

Scott Benner (47:51) My god. (47:52) Where do people get the energy?

Rachel (47:54) I don't know.

Scott Benner (47:55) And my mom I don't understand the energy and the money. (47:58) While you're talking, none of it make sense to me.

Rachel (48:00) Listen, Scott, like you said, you're not religious, but it's gotta be the lord. (48:04) That's all I can say. (48:05) That's the only explanation we have in this world.

Scott Benner (48:07) Yeah. (48:08) I don't know. (48:08) I can have another explanation. (48:10) But I I

Rachel (48:12) Okay. (48:12) Robbery.

Scott Benner (48:14) I don't know. (48:14) I don't I don't know what you're doing over there. (48:16) Okay. (48:17) Alright. (48:17) So trying to put my head around it.

Scott Benner (48:20) So you have Lada, but they give you insulin. (48:22) They give you Lantus at first. (48:23) And then Yes. (48:24) She helps you by hooking you up with the educator who says, like, hey. (48:28) That was all wrong.

Scott Benner (48:30) Gets you go in the right direction. (48:31) Do you leave with fast acting insulin with a better understanding? (48:34) Like, how do you launch into the world? (48:36) And and, again, this is ten months ago. (48:38) Right?

Rachel (48:38) Oh, yes. (48:39) It was. (48:39) Yeah. (48:39) Okay.

Scott Benner (48:40) Mhmm.

Rachel (48:40) So really great. (48:41) She she made them give get me the antibody test and because they didn't do that. (48:45) The whole entire hospital did not run an antibody test. (48:48) And then she got me that PASACTA and the Lantus. (48:51) So I was on NovoLog and Lantus, did MDI for a while.

Rachel (48:54) I think I got a CGM pretty much right away and then the pump probably, like, three months after. (48:59) I'm on Omnipod and Dex.

Scott Benner (49:01) Okay. (49:02) How long did they keep you in the hospital then?

Rachel (49:05) Three days? (49:06) Two days?

Scott Benner (49:06) Okay. (49:06) So you left with some training, not a ton.

Rachel (49:09) Yeah. (49:09) Literally, that hour and a half with the educator was all I got, and the rest of it was from your podcast on I'm not even kidding you.

Scott Benner (49:16) Really?

Rachel (49:16) And my I'm not even kidding you. (49:18) My a one c last time I got it was five point five, and I was admitted at a thirteen.

Scott Benner (49:24) My goodness. (49:24) Good job.

Rachel (49:25) Thank you, sir.

Scott Benner (49:26) You think you're honeymooning, or do you think that's or not? (49:29) I

Rachel (49:30) don't think I don't see. (49:31) I don't even know if I had a honeymoon. (49:32) I don't know if it's a Lada. (49:33) Like, it punched in, it punched out. (49:35) I think that's what happened.

Scott Benner (49:36) So you think the slow progression is going all the way back to your eighteen till ten months ago, but ten months ago, you were, like, full blown, let's go type one.

Rachel (49:44) I think so. (49:44) And if there was a honeymoon, it was possibly for, like, two seconds. (49:49) And, yeah, I don't think so anymore.

Scott Benner (49:50) Okay.

Rachel (49:51) Because everything is really consistent, and I have a lot of ups and downs.

Scott Benner (49:55) I see. (49:56) So I see. (49:57) Okay. (49:57) Listen. (49:58) This is apropos of nothing, but you seem to have a lot of answers.

Scott Benner (50:01) Do you think I should get Botox? (50:02) I have some wrinkles around my eyes and on my forehead. (50:04) And I was looking the other day, and I thought, could I get rid of these? (50:08) Botox didn't occur to me. (50:10) But then I was in a restaurant Saturday night, and we were joking around.

Scott Benner (50:13) My wife and I were talking to actually, I was diagnosing someone with a thyroid issue, my waitress, which by the way, I was right about. (50:22) And as soon soon I brought it up, she was like, I've been wondering that about myself too. (50:26) I was like, uh-huh. (50:27) So I got her all set up with how to take care of that. (50:30) And we were joking around about something.

Scott Benner (50:32) I think she looks looks younger than she is or something or I forget what the vibe was. (50:37) And and I said, don't know. (50:39) I look at my wrinkles. (50:40) I'm thinking of getting Botox. (50:42) And she goes, I do it.

Scott Benner (50:44) And I was like, wait. (50:45) What? (50:45) She's, like, really young. (50:47) And I was like, what do you mean you do it? (50:48) She goes, well, I have a family member who does it, you know, so I I don't really pay the whole cost.

Rachel (50:53) Oh my gosh.

Scott Benner (50:53) I do it prophylactically. (50:55) She she didn't use that word, but that's what she meant. (50:57) She meant, like by the way, prophylactic can mean to stop something from happening. (51:01) I know you would have no idea about this. (51:03) It's also could mean a condom.

Scott Benner (51:04) It's another thing I don't think you've ever seen in your life.

Rachel (51:06) Thought it was, but you're right. (51:08) I have there is, a bag of condoms that are untouched in this house.

Scott Benner (51:12) Oh, I bet they're dry rotted somewhere.

Rachel (51:14) Probably. (51:15) They're expired, certainly.

Scott Benner (51:17) And she's like, it would really work. (51:18) And I thought, oh, would I do that? (51:20) And then I thought, maybe I would. (51:22) What do you think?

Rachel (51:23) If you can't afford to hire a staff, can you afford Botox?

Scott Benner (51:28) I don't know what it cost. (51:29) That's the one thing she didn't know. (51:30) I asked her. (51:30) Was like, well, what's it cost? (51:31) She's like, I don't really know.

Scott Benner (51:32) I don't pay the real price. (51:33) And I was like, oh, okay.

Rachel (51:35) What was the did she tell you what the not real price was?

Scott Benner (51:38) Because that

Rachel (51:38) might give you a good idea.

Scott Benner (51:39) It sounded like it sounded like her aunt does it for her. (51:42) I just thought of just saying to her, I was like, why you just get your aunt to help me out a little bit? (51:45) I just helped you with your thyroid thing.

Rachel (51:47) Yeah. (51:47) Right?

Scott Benner (51:48) But I didn't say that. (51:49) Why why don't we find out just very quickly before we get back to your story?

Rachel (51:53) Yeah. (51:53) Please. (51:53) Look it up. (51:54) This is really, really important.

Scott Benner (51:55) I think

Rachel (51:55) it is look at this right now.

Scott Benner (51:57) Right around my eyes and my forehead, how much?

Rachel (52:01) I am looking at a picture of you right now, and I'm not gonna say anything else.

Scott Benner (52:05) Yeah. (52:05) I look old.

Rachel (52:07) I don't say old, but you do look like you have had some time in this world.

Scott Benner (52:11) I've been in the sun. (52:12) Right? (52:13) How much is what we just call it Botox for my forehead.

Rachel (52:19) I wonder if insurance would touch that at

Scott Benner (52:21) all. (52:21) Around my eyes. (52:22) Can you imagine if I was like, listen. (52:24) I have a podcast, so this is a medical thing.

Rachel (52:27) You Okay. (52:28) Can maybe go to a dermatologist. (52:29) Maybe it'll be covered if you could do it under that.

Scott Benner (52:31) Oh, woah. (52:32) Hold on. (52:32) Botox is often priced per unit. (52:34) Typically, it's a range of 10 to $20 or more per unit in The US. (52:38) A session treating your forehead might require, oh, ten to thirty units or more.

Scott Benner (52:42) Okay.

Rachel (52:43) Imagine if that were in insulin, like, ten to thirty units to the forehead.

Scott Benner (52:47) Wow. (52:48) Yeah. (52:48) Wait. (52:49) You definitely you would definitely get low from that. (52:50) There are areas around your eyes like crow's feet that could take ten to twenty four units.

Scott Benner (52:53) So what I'm hearing here is I might need somewhere between twenty and fifty five units, depending on my anatomy and my goals. (53:02) For the forehead, you might expect the cost to be somewhere between a $106,100 dollars. (53:06) Well, for the areas around the eyes, 50 150 to 400. (53:11) If I treat them okay. (53:12) Well, how how long does it last for?

Scott Benner (53:14) Typical timeline. (53:15) Results appear within three to seven days. (53:17) I could look younger in seven days. (53:19) Full effects around two weeks. (53:21) Peak effectiveness, two to eight weeks.

Scott Benner (53:24) Fading, three three months.

Rachel (53:27) Wow.

Scott Benner (53:28) I'm looking at $3 a year to keep my face smooth?

Rachel (53:31) That's the that's what I'm telling you now.

Scott Benner (53:33) For that.

Rachel (53:34) Paid intern instead. (53:35) Paid intern.

Scott Benner (53:35) I'm 54 now. (53:36) If I live twenty more years, you're telling me about three no. (53:39) Alright. (53:40) $60,000 of Botox? (53:42) I can't do it.

Scott Benner (53:43) Alright. (53:44) I guess I'll just look like this. (53:45) Now, by the way

Rachel (53:46) There goes your retirement.

Scott Benner (53:47) Now if next year I show up at some event and people are like, where are all your wrinkles? (53:50) They'll be like, that guy, he spent that money on that Botox.

Rachel (53:53) He spent his retirement on Botox.

Scott Benner (53:56) I wonder if I could get, like, an advertiser to pay for it. (53:59) Oh. (54:00) Hey, Omnipod. (54:00) Do you wanna pay for my Botox? (54:04) I'll look younger at events when I'm there.

Scott Benner (54:06) Right?

Rachel (54:07) Mhmm. (54:08) Yep. (54:08) Prettier prettier people sell things. (54:11) Right?

Scott Benner (54:11) No. (54:11) Tandem had me to friends for diabetes. (54:13) Wouldn't you like me to look younger next year at friends for diabetes tandem? (54:16) Just

Rachel (54:17) like the people, like, who come into the doctor's office, they drop off the samples. (54:21) So there's your argument. (54:23) I need to look like the sample people.

Scott Benner (54:25) I have to say, as much as I would like it to just last forever if I'm paying for it, the other side of me thinks, like, I'm glad it wouldn't last forever because what if I didn't like it? (54:33) You know what I mean?

Rachel (54:34) True.

Scott Benner (54:35) Like, at what at least it would go away.

Rachel (54:37) What if Kelly likes to, though?

Scott Benner (54:38) Kelly.

Rachel (54:39) She's kinda your sugar mama. (54:40) Right? (54:40) She'll pay for it.

Scott Benner (54:41) I don't think she looks me in the eye. (54:42) How would she see my eyes? (54:43) She's so tight. (54:45) That girl works so hard. (54:46) You have no idea.

Scott Benner (54:46) Cool. (54:47) Yeah. (54:48) Just seriously, I don't talk about it enough. (54:50) It's quite a feat, how much how much she works, actually. (54:54) Very good at her job.

Scott Benner (54:55) Very type a. (54:56) Tough job. (54:57) She really digs deep. (54:58) Does a good job for people. (54:59) So

Rachel (55:00) Does she still work with the the pharmaceutical company? (55:03) Because I'm way back.

Scott Benner (55:04) Yeah. (55:04) No. (55:04) She does drug safety. (55:05) Yeah. (55:05) She's, she's the one who tries to make sure that the stuff is safe and effective and that reporting is done correctly and all the stuff you hope somebody's doing at a pharmaceutical company.

Scott Benner (55:15) So

Rachel (55:16) Oh, I thank her for her service then because, you know, we need that stuff.

Scott Benner (55:19) She hustles. (55:20) She really does. (55:21) Okay. (55:22) Now that we've gotten past my Botox, which is not I mean, is it gonna happen? (55:28) What if I could I just do one eye for couldn't that be crazy if I got no wrinkles on one side?

Rachel (55:32) I was

Scott Benner (55:33) like, let me just see if this

Rachel (55:33) is the truck drivers, you know, how one side of their face is, like, totally wrinkled and then the other side is nice.

Scott Benner (55:39) Oh, I do know that. (55:41) Yeah. (55:42) Well, they probably get off cheaper when they do Botox then.

Rachel (55:45) That's hilarious.

Scott Benner (55:46) You think you think truck drivers get cheaper Botox?

Rachel (55:49) PSA to all the truck drivers out there. (55:52) Half price Botox.

Scott Benner (55:53) Yeah. (55:53) But what should they do? (55:54) Like, maybe get a sun shade, you think?

Rachel (55:56) I have no idea. (55:57) I I don't know.

Scott Benner (55:59) They should do sun I don't

Rachel (55:59) know if anyone maybe just slather sunscreen on one side every morning.

Scott Benner (56:03) Mine is from the baseball and softball fields, which Mhmm. (56:06) You know, is awesome because neither of my kids play baseball or softball anymore, and I still look like I've been outside my whole life. (56:12) Also, I probably could have, like, you know, worn a hat or, you know, done something.

Rachel (56:17) That's okay. (56:18) You had other stuff on your mind.

Scott Benner (56:19) I yeah, I was thinking about all that stuff.

Rachel (56:22) Yeah. (56:22) I mean, that's crazy with trying to exercise and diabetes is.

Scott Benner (56:26) How are you gonna do this with your kids? (56:27) They're so close in age. (56:28) What if they wanna play soccer or something? (56:30) How are you even gonna, like, do that?

Rachel (56:33) Oh, I don't know. (56:34) I don't know.

Scott Benner (56:35) Seriously, you're not gonna be able to. (56:36) Like, you have to buy one of those, like, t shirt cannons and just shoot them towards the different fields because you won't have time to run them to each one of them. (56:43) It's gonna be a problem for you. (56:44) Maybe just release them into the park and tell them to run-in the general direction of where their practice is.

Rachel (56:49) Yeah. (56:49) That's what I'll do.

Scott Benner (56:50) Do you enjoy the sports, or do you think your kids won't do that?

Rachel (56:53) I hope they don't. (56:54) I don't wanna do any sports. (56:56) I don't like sports.

Scott Benner (56:56) You didn't sports at all as a child?

Rachel (56:58) No. (56:59) I wanted to, but again, I'm the big family. (57:01) Didn't really have money. (57:02) My brothers did football though. (57:04) Hello.

Rachel (57:04) Prioritize the son.

Scott Benner (57:06) My bad. (57:07) There. (57:07) Yeah. (57:07) Calling you out right there. (57:08) How about that boy?

Rachel (57:09) Called them out. (57:10) I was like, you guys no. (57:11) I'm kidding.

Scott Benner (57:12) How about that boy that you let up marry you? (57:13) Does he, did he like sports?

Rachel (57:15) He likes basketball, but he's actually a jujitsu instructor. (57:19) He's really awesome. (57:21) And he my daughter does jujitsu too. (57:23) So we're gonna raise them up in the martial arts. (57:26) And Oh, that's nice.

Rachel (57:27) Hopefully, it'll all just be one dojo, and that'll be a lot easier.

Scott Benner (57:29) Yeah. (57:30) Okay. (57:30) Well, that's nice. (57:31) Plus, he can show them, and he'll know a little bit about it. (57:33) We're gonna finish up with why your husband's so awesome right after we finish up with your diabetes.

Scott Benner (57:37) This is these are our last two topics right now.

Rachel (57:39) So Okay.

Scott Benner (57:40) Today, are you using a pump or are you still MDI?

Rachel (57:43) I am using a pump.

Scott Benner (57:44) No. (57:45) You said Omnipod.

Rachel (57:46) Yeah. (57:46) I'm on the Omnipod. (57:47) And I was I thought you might be interested to know. (57:50) I'm actually using manual mode. (57:51) I was in automated, but it was driving me nuts.

Rachel (57:54) So I switched to manual because I want to I think I'm a little bit of a control freak.

Scott Benner (57:58) No. (57:59) Stop. (58:00) Sorry. (58:00) That was a joke because you're making all these babies. (58:02) It feels like you are trying to control things is what I'm saying.

Rachel (58:04) Oh, no. (58:05) Dang. (58:05) That's rough. (58:06) Oh, I'll say that's gonna take some reflection. (58:08) I'm gonna have to think about it.

Scott Benner (58:09) Well, do that on your own time.

Rachel (58:11) Okay. (58:12) You did the Botox on your on our time here, so I don't know.

Scott Benner (58:15) It's my podcast. (58:15) If you wanna talk about your thing, make your own damn podcast. (58:18) Invite me on. (58:19) And then tell me and then tell me I would like to reflect, and I'll sit and listen.

Rachel (58:23) I'm gonna I actually had a, like, a mini short podcast I was sending only to my brothers and sisters. (58:27) I believe it was Jesus and titties, because, like, type one diabetes titties. (58:32) So I would I would do my, like, bible devotions, and then I would talk to them about that and then talk to them about sometimes diabetes on the treadmill. (58:40) So sometimes Jesus and titties on the treadmill.

Scott Benner (58:42) Wait. (58:42) I don't understand. (58:43) And now you're gonna make me say titties, but titties is the diabetes?

Rachel (58:47) Think think about it. (58:48) T one d, titties.

Scott Benner (58:50) Am I understanding this right? (58:51) In your mini podcast that you were only sharing with your siblings, that's what you had? (58:55) Yes. (58:55) Boy, I'll tell you what. (58:56) Look out for my brothers.

Scott Benner (58:57) I'm gonna start I'm gonna start recording audio and send it to you. (59:00) They're like, oh my god. (59:01) Don't do that. (59:03) See, you didn't actually talk about breasts in the podcast.

Rachel (59:06) There could have been, but probably not.

Scott Benner (59:07) You could have been. (59:08) Did you breastfeed those three kids?

Rachel (59:10) Oh, yeah.

Scott Benner (59:10) Oh, no kidding. (59:11) You do the fourth one too?

Rachel (59:13) Oh, I will be.

Scott Benner (59:14) And what about when you trick that boy into fifth one? (59:16) Do you think it was with that one too?

Rachel (59:18) Of course.

Scott Benner (59:18) Of course.

Rachel (59:19) Maybe the maybe the eighth one as well.

Scott Benner (59:21) I swear to god. (59:22) If you only have four kids, I'll eat my hat. (59:24) There's no way that's gonna happen.

Rachel (59:26) Gosh. (59:27) If I have more than four kids, I don't know. (59:29) My husband don't know if he's got this might. (59:32) Thing. (59:34) He really might.

Rachel (59:35) He might he might take away my my wiener rights. (59:39) We'll say that.

Scott Benner (59:39) He might have to get you into a throuple so somebody else has to pay for some of this.

Rachel (59:43) No. (59:43) Scott, don't say that. (59:44) Oh. (59:44) We're we're about the lord over here. (59:46) No throuples.

Scott Benner (59:46) You just said wiener rights.

Rachel (59:49) So? (59:50) The lord the lord made sex, my guy.

Scott Benner (59:52) You don't think he made throuples? (59:54) No. (59:55) Alright. (59:55) Well, you

Rachel (59:56) draw not biblical. (59:57) That is not biblical.

Scott Benner (59:58) Drawn your line. (59:59) I understand. (1:00:00) Yeah. (1:00:00) So wait. (1:00:01) So you're using Omnipod five in manual?

Scott Benner (1:00:03) My transitions are apoplectic at this point, but I apologize

Rachel (1:00:09) this for that. (1:00:10) Podcast. (1:00:11) We're gonna have a time.

Scott Benner (1:00:12) So why are you not using automated?

Rachel (1:00:14) Well, so it has this goal. (1:00:16) You know, the goal is one ten, and I really want to be a normal person in range because as you know, we're not a fan of birth control over here.

Scott Benner (1:00:24) Mhmm.

Rachel (1:00:24) And when you're pregnant, you have to be in between seventy and one twenty. (1:00:28) And, also, I just wanna live my life like that. (1:00:30) I wanna be normal and healthy as long as I can.

Scott Benner (1:00:32) Okay.

Rachel (1:00:32) So I just wanna stay in that range. (1:00:34) So I like your your idea of floating in the eighties. (1:00:37) So as always, my goal is to float in the eighties, and I have my ranges set between seventy and one thirty. (1:00:42) I have my alarm set at 01:20, and I'm usually between 80 to 88% in range in between that.

Scott Benner (1:00:49) You're awesome at this. (1:00:50) I taught you all this?

Rachel (1:00:52) You did, sir, and the endocrinologist was 0% helpful. (1:00:55) Crap. (1:00:55) Did not go back them. (1:00:56) I'm not seeing them. (1:00:58) I have my drug dealer now as my primary care doctor.

Rachel (1:01:01) So so sorry, endocrinologist. (1:01:03) I don't mean to be mean, but it's true. (1:01:04) They were not helpful at all. (1:01:05) They told me not to correct. (1:01:07) Okay?

Scott Benner (1:01:07) Just stay higher? (1:01:08) They wouldn't just stay higher?

Rachel (1:01:10) Yeah. (1:01:10) They told me he told me not to correct. (1:01:11) He told me to just go on a walk or or drink some water. (1:01:14) And I was like

Scott Benner (1:01:15) Wait. (1:01:15) Your blood sugar's high? (1:01:16) Should have a drink of water?

Rachel (1:01:18) Drink yeah. (1:01:18) Go on a walk and go on a walk and or drink water.

Scott Benner (1:01:21) That was the endocrinologist.

Rachel (1:01:22) That was the endocrinologist.

Scott Benner (1:01:24) Okay. (1:01:25) Alright.

Rachel (1:01:25) Oh, I don't see them anymore. (1:01:27) I see them.

Scott Benner (1:01:27) Thank god for me.

Rachel (1:01:28) I I yeah. (1:01:30) Can you

Scott Benner (1:01:31) imagine if I meant that?

Rachel (1:01:32) I don't have an endocrinologist because I my I feel comfortable taking care of myself because of your podcast.

Scott Benner (1:01:38) Well, I'm I'm genuinely happy about that. (1:01:40) I know we've been joking around a lot, but I I really do appreciate that knowing that, and I'm glad that you feel that way and you're having those outcomes. (1:01:46) That's really awesome.

Rachel (1:01:47) Thank you. (1:01:47) And I I mean, that's, again, why I wanted to come on here and tell people. (1:01:50) And I I hope they hear this because this podcast has changed my life, has has helped me so much. (1:01:57) It's been a valuable resource, and I tell everybody I know. (1:02:00) I've told all the diabetics that I know about it.

Rachel (1:02:02) One little lady, she's been a die I just met at the gym. (1:02:05) She's been a diabetic since she was 15, and she just started listening to your podcast and has already helped her some. (1:02:10) And so I just feel like this has been so helpful, and I am so thankful.

Scott Benner (1:02:15) So Jeez. (1:02:15) I yeah. (1:02:16) It almost made me Thank you. (1:02:17) Almost made me cry.

Rachel (1:02:18) It's I it's true. (1:02:19) It's good.

Scott Benner (1:02:20) That's lovely.

Rachel (1:02:20) I tell everybody.

Scott Benner (1:02:21) I'm so happy. (1:02:22) That's that's really wonderful. (1:02:23) Isn't it interesting that we have found a way to take this somehow religious, stupid, tiny bit prerogative conversation and and do all these things with it. (1:02:35) And yet somehow, through listening to this thing, you you're having those health outcomes.

Rachel (1:02:40) Yeah. (1:02:41) I I'm very grateful.

Scott Benner (1:02:42) Oh, you're very nice. (1:02:43) You don't have to are you thanking me? (1:02:45) You don't need to thank me. (1:02:46) What I'm saying is that this is how people learn. (1:02:50) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (1:02:51) You know, I guess what what's got it in my head is that I've been compiling a list for a while, and I've got it down. (1:02:57) It's pretty close to done. (1:02:58) I think I'm gonna float it one more time out to the to the listenership and make sure I haven't missed anything. (1:03:04) But it's a list of things that people struggle with. (1:03:08) I started off by getting a list of things that people struggle with, then we kinda, like, let people upvote it so you could see, like, you know, it's not just one person who said this thing.

Scott Benner (1:03:16) There's 300 people agreed that that was a problem. (1:03:19) I'm looking at that and then I've kinda reverse engineered about how to put that list into the podcast in ways that will actually help you. (1:03:29) Mhmm. (1:03:30) Not make it cold or not make it, I don't know, clinical. (1:03:37) People don't like that.

Scott Benner (1:03:39) It's not how people learn. (1:03:40) And I think the conversational is better. (1:03:43) You know, it does it open it up to every once in a while somebody says something like, oh, I wish I wouldn't have said it that way. (1:03:48) Yeah. (1:03:48) But I I trust adults to be adults and listen through and make their own decisions and everything.

Scott Benner (1:03:55) And and I just think that having made the podcast for this long gives me the opportunity to do stuff like that. (1:04:02) You have to really be around this for a long time and absorb a lot of different aspects and hear 2,000 conversations from other people. (1:04:11) And Mhmm. (1:04:11) You watch, you know, a Facebook group with I mean, I don't even know what's in it anymore. (1:04:16) 75,000 members, maybe.

Scott Benner (1:04:18) Right? (1:04:19) And watch what what's torturing them, what's working for them, what they need, you know, and be able to kinda coalesce it all together and then put it back out in a way that is, you know, I don't know, I think easy to absorb and understand. (1:04:36) I was thinking about this because I have to go give a talk next week where I'm gonna try to explain to people how they could be helpful to other people too. (1:04:46) I kept coming back to the idea of how grateful I was that this thing actually became like, I'm actually I I I to say because I think it's obvious, but, like, I'm a podcaster. (1:04:56) Like, I do that professionally.

Scott Benner (1:04:58) And if I wasn't doing it like this with this singular focus of trying to help people and if I was not continuing to focus on this one aspect of it, I don't think that I'd have the opportunity to continue to hear things, absorb them, put them back out again, clarify them, re clarify them, that kind of stuff like that. (1:05:21) That just wouldn't exist.

Rachel (1:05:22) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (1:05:23) I I think this is just a thing that doesn't happen in a lot of walks of life.

Rachel (1:05:28) Yeah. (1:05:28) That's

Scott Benner (1:05:29) true. (1:05:29) And yeah. (1:05:30) I'm just really happy that it that it I mean, because to hear that you went through all the stuff that you went through, right, and ten months ago, had a 13 a one c, somebody who didn't help you, and ten months later would you say you're a five five, did you say?

Rachel (1:05:46) Yes. (1:05:46) And I I'm coming up on another one soon, I think going in manual mode because that was in auto mode. (1:05:52) Going in manual mode. (1:05:53) Have high hopes that will be even lower. (1:05:55) That was like

Scott Benner (1:05:56) You were doing a five five in auto?

Rachel (1:05:58) Yes, sir.

Scott Benner (1:05:59) Okay. (1:05:59) That's awesome too. (1:06:01) So Thank you. (1:06:02) Yeah. (1:06:02) No.

Scott Benner (1:06:02) You're welcome. (1:06:03) How did you find the time to listen to the podcast, get the information, put it into practice? (1:06:08) And you have three kids, and I'm assuming are cooking or having sex with all of your other time. (1:06:13) Right?

Rachel (1:06:14) At the same time.

Scott Benner (1:06:15) At the same time.

Rachel (1:06:17) I'm kidding.

Scott Benner (1:06:18) Well, I don't know if you're kidding, first of all, but that's fine. (1:06:20) And secondly, I'm trying to say, like, I hear a lot of people online tell me, I don't have time. (1:06:26) What are the ages of your kids?

Rachel (1:06:28) Six to a year and a half ish.

Scott Benner (1:06:31) Uh-huh. (1:06:32) Alright. (1:06:32) I don't think I wanna hear that excuse from people anymore. (1:06:34) You sound busy is what I'm saying.

Rachel (1:06:36) Yes. (1:06:37) And if it helps, and not to brag, but I do homeschool. (1:06:40) So

Scott Benner (1:06:41) Well, you're homeschooling the kids on top of all that?

Rachel (1:06:44) Yeah. (1:06:44) My my homeschool, my daughter, she's six. (1:06:46) My other one is three, so he's not doing anything yet.

Scott Benner (1:06:49) And you found time to, like, go dive into a podcast and learn a bit? (1:06:53) You didn't even you started at the beginning. (1:06:54) Right?

Rachel (1:06:55) I started with the pro tip series Okay. (1:06:57) And then started it back at the beginning and just kinda listening here and there to what I needed. (1:07:02) So, like, I pop back in at, you know, how to use auto mode or Yeah. (1:07:08) Yeah. (1:07:08) Whatever whatever area I needed to go in our Next one, I'm obviously gonna be doing pregnancy.

Rachel (1:07:13) I gotta check-in on that one.

Scott Benner (1:07:14) Good for you. (1:07:14) Yeah. (1:07:14) We have a lot of pregnancy episodes. (1:07:17) Oh, my last question for you. (1:07:19) Do you have anything for me before I ask you my last question?

Rachel (1:07:21) Oh, well, you asked how I have the time. (1:07:24) So I just do it I just listen while I'm doing chores or cooking. (1:07:27) That's that's it. (1:07:28) I just listen during the day as I'm doing stuff, but that doesn't need my brain.

Scott Benner (1:07:33) You live you live in the headphones or you have it out out loud in the house?

Rachel (1:07:36) I live in my headphones, honestly. (1:07:38) Yeah. (1:07:39) I I just, you know, pause it if my daughter talks to me or something or Sure. (1:07:42) If I need to yell at somebody.

Scott Benner (1:07:43) Sometimes I get yelled at because my headphones are noise cancelling.

Rachel (1:07:46) Mhmm. (1:07:47) Yeah. (1:07:47) Mine are noise cancelling, but my kids are louder, so it's fine.

Scott Benner (1:07:50) I can still hear them. (1:07:51) Alright. (1:07:51) So being serious, like, don't just be, like, Pollyanna. (1:07:56) What's so special about that boy? (1:07:58) How did you, like, lock him down early?

Scott Benner (1:08:00) Like, how did you even figure out when you were how old did you marry him at?

Rachel (1:08:04) I married him when I was 19. (1:08:06) We, started dating when I was 18. (1:08:08) We were friends when I was 17. (1:08:10) Sorry.

Scott Benner (1:08:11) Yeah. (1:08:11) But how do you figure that out? (1:08:13) Like like, how do you at 18, how do you say that kid is gonna come through? (1:08:19) He's not gonna flake. (1:08:21) Like, how did you how did you know?

Rachel (1:08:23) I just knew he was a really good man. (1:08:25) And I've always said this to him, and I've said it to others that even if I didn't love him, I think I still would have married him because he's such a good man. (1:08:33) And I know he would provide for me and take care of my family, and he's just a man of God and he yeah. (1:08:40) He's just really a really good man.

Scott Benner (1:08:42) Wow. (1:08:43) Even if you weren't attracted to him and didn't love him, you think he'd still be the best choice?

Rachel (1:08:47) I honestly think so because somebody can be the most beautiful person. (1:08:51) You can have all the feelings for them, but they can still end up being garbage. (1:08:54) And my husband, after eight years, is wonderful and amazing and a treasure.

Scott Benner (1:08:59) No kidding. (1:09:00) Good for him. (1:09:01) Woah. (1:09:01) Woah. (1:09:01) How'd that happen?

Scott Benner (1:09:03) Like, did he was he raised well? (1:09:05) Like, what what do you think it was?

Rachel (1:09:07) He's Vietnamese. (1:09:07) His parents are, you know, classic Asian, so they're very strict. (1:09:10) And he always had a good work ethic that he learned from his family. (1:09:14) And, you know, it's always been about god, family, and working hard. (1:09:18) And so he's just had these really great qualities that his parents have imparted on him.

Rachel (1:09:23) And that, think, also, like, naturally, been a part of his character. (1:09:29) And I could just tell that. (1:09:31) And I know it's really a cliche, but when you know, you know. (1:09:33) And I knew immediately that I wanted to marry him, and he knew he wanted to marry me. (1:09:37) And I think it's going pretty well.

Rachel (1:09:39) I mean, it's been eight years, so that's pretty good. (1:09:41) A lot of people don't make it that far. (1:09:43) And we have three kids, and we're still in love. (1:09:45) And we just wanna spend our time together as much as we can. (1:09:48) He actually works two jobs, so it's a little bit hard.

Rachel (1:09:51) He works two jobs so I can stay home. (1:09:52) So I feel very blessed that he like I like I said, he's a really good provider. (1:09:57) So he he works two jobs like, stay home and take care of these kids and homeschool and, you know, smash and dash, all that good stuff.

Scott Benner (1:10:03) How lovely.

Rachel (1:10:05) And He's really amazing.

Scott Benner (1:10:06) Yeah. (1:10:07) You I that that that's really nice. (1:10:09) That's a lovely way to end this. (1:10:10) I I appreciate you telling me that. (1:10:12) That is that is really terrific.

Scott Benner (1:10:13) I hope that the podcast continues to be valuable for you, and I really appreciate you taking the time to share this all with me. (1:10:19) Can I ask you, like, one last question even though I said I wasn't going to?

Rachel (1:10:22) Of course.

Scott Benner (1:10:23) Do you think you'll have your kids tested for antibodies ever?

Rachel (1:10:26) I have already.

Scott Benner (1:10:28) Okay.

Rachel (1:10:29) Yeah. (1:10:29) But my youngest is still too little, but the other two, all clear so far.

Scott Benner (1:10:33) Okay. (1:10:34) And, I I never got to, is there any other autoimmune for you or in your family line on your your side?

Rachel (1:10:42) No diabetes, except my my grandma has type two. (1:10:45) Classic, again. (1:10:46) My brother has a thyroid problem, and my mom has fibromyalgia. (1:10:51) Mhmm. (1:10:51) So I don't know if that has any played it, but other than that, no diabetes.

Rachel (1:10:54) No type one.

Scott Benner (1:10:55) Okay. (1:10:56) How were you raised? (1:10:57) What genre are you?

Rachel (1:11:00) Like What do you mean?

Scott Benner (1:11:01) Have, like, like, you're religious. (1:11:02) Like, what religious background are you?

Rachel (1:11:03) Oh, Christian.

Scott Benner (1:11:05) Just just a, like, a classic vanilla Christian background.

Rachel (1:11:08) I mean, I guess you could say vanilla. (1:11:10) Sure.

Scott Benner (1:11:10) But I mean, does does it does it lean Catholic or Baptist or something like that, I mean?

Rachel (1:11:14) No. (1:11:15) I don't I don't prefer to say dominant denominational. (1:11:17) I don't really believe in that.

Scott Benner (1:11:18) Gotcha. (1:11:19) Okay.

Rachel (1:11:20) We I would say, I don't even know what the all the denomination names are. (1:11:24) I just love the Lord and I believe in the Lord and that's where I'm at. (1:11:27) Alright.

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Scott Benner (0:00) Hello, friends. (0:01) Welcome to the Juice Box podcast. (0:03) Happy holidays to everyone juggling carbs, cookies, and the chaos of this season.

Jamie (0:17) Well, I am Jamie. (0:19) I am a type one diabetic. (0:21) I was diagnosed as LADA when I was, I think, 36. (0:26) And so it's been about eight years now. (0:29) Told everyone my age pretty much, and that's me.

Scott Benner (0:33) This is part two of a two part episode. (0:35) Go look at the title. (0:36) If you don't recognize it, you haven't heard part one yet. (0:39) It's probably the episode right before this in your podcast player. (0:44) If you're new to type one diabetes, begin with the bold beginnings series from the podcast.

Scott Benner (0:49) Don't take my word for it. (0:50) Listen to what reviewers have said. (0:52) Bold beginnings is the best first step. (0:55) I learned more in those episodes than anywhere else. (0:58) This is when everything finally clicked.

Scott Benner (1:00) People say it takes the stress out of the early days and replaces it with clarity. (1:04) They tell me this should come with the diagnosis packet that I got at the hospital. (1:08) And after they listen, they recommend it to everyone who's struggling. (1:12) It's straightforward, practical, and easy to listen to. (1:15) Bold Beginnings gives you the basics in a way that actually makes sense.

Scott Benner (1:20) Nothing you hear on the Juice Box podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. (1:25) Always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan. (1:33) I'd like to remind you again about the MiniMed seven eighty g automated insulin delivery system, which, of course, anticipates, adjusts, and corrects every five minutes twenty four seven. (1:43) It works around the clock so you can focus on what matters. (1:48) The Juice Box community knows the importance of using technology to simplify managing diabetes.

Scott Benner (1:53) To learn more about how you can spend less time and effort managing your diabetes, visit my link, medtronicdiabetes.com/juicebox. (2:03) Today's episode of the juice box podcast is sponsored by the Kontoor Next Gen blood glucose meter. (2:10) This is the meter that my daughter has on her person right now. (2:14) It is incredibly accurate and waiting for you at contournext.com/juicebox. (2:21) What?

Scott Benner (2:21) Do you have Raynaud's?

Jamie (2:23) I do have Raynaud's.

Scott Benner (2:25) I just looked at the, at the notes and I was like, oh, I didn't see that before.

Jamie (2:28) I have Raynaud's. (2:29) I have anaphylactic allergies and I also have psoriasis.

Scott Benner (2:34) Awesome. (2:35) So I'm just like, where's the psoriasis at?

Jamie (2:39) Ugh. (2:40) Got in my ear canals is the worst. (2:42) And then I also have it on the back of my head.

Scott Benner (2:44) What do you do about it in your ears? (2:45) Something you can put in there?

Jamie (2:47) I have, like, a liquid steroid topical thing that I use, and then my dermatologist also gave me because they always get infected.

Scott Benner (2:56) K.

Jamie (2:57) When it's in there, you know, when you scratch at it and then it gets infected. (3:01) So I also have a topical liquid antibiotic that I have to use when I'm using the steroids as well.

Scott Benner (3:06) To come and go like flares?

Jamie (3:09) Oh, yeah. (3:10) Stress. (3:11) I'm pretty sure something is in my diet is also setting it off, but I haven't figured out what yet.

Scott Benner (3:16) Could be super chill soda.

Jamie (3:18) Right? (3:19) Yeah. (3:20) No. (3:21) It happens way more than I drink the super chill.

Scott Benner (3:23) Gotcha.

Jamie (3:24) But yeah.

Scott Benner (3:25) You think something in your diet's making it flare as well?

Jamie (3:28) Yeah. (3:28) And stress. (3:29) Stress for sure will will kick it off, and then it ends up being a couple week long thing where I have to fight with it.

Scott Benner (3:35) Gotcha. (3:36) It's interesting. (3:37) Any other autoimmune in your family or with you? (3:39) Any sisters, brothers, mothers, fathers have something?

Jamie (3:43) I'm an only child, but most of our family has either type one or type two.

Scott Benner (3:48) Really?

Jamie (3:50) Yep. (3:50) And then a lot of us

Scott Benner (3:52) Tell me how many people with type one are in your extended family?

Jamie (3:56) I have one first cousin and a couple of second or third cousins that also have it. (4:02) Mhmm. (4:03) And then, like, my grandpa was a type two. (4:06) My mom has type two.

Scott Benner (4:08) K.

Jamie (4:09) I'm pretty sure the rest of my there's quite a few people. (4:12) K. (4:12) And then there's also celiac.

Scott Benner (4:15) Not with you, but with other people. (4:17) Yeah. (4:18) Okay. (4:19) I cut you off. (4:20) Is that what you were gonna say, also celiac, when I I cut you off earlier?

Jamie (4:24) No. (4:24) I don't have celiac No. (4:25) But other people do.

Scott Benner (4:26) Were you adding you were saying also, and then I cut you off. (4:29) I felt bad, but we we stopped, so I kept going. (4:33) I I guess that's probably what we were doing. (4:34) Yeah. (4:35) Well, how important can it be?

Jamie (4:37) Yeah. (4:38) I don't remember it.

Scott Benner (4:39) Eighteen months, that boy didn't call you.

Jamie (4:42) Yeah. (4:43) Eighteen months.

Scott Benner (4:43) Then he friended you back on Facebook. (4:46) What a smooth operator.

Jamie (4:48) Right?

Scott Benner (4:48) Yeah. (4:49) And you went for it. (4:50) Did your mom yell at you?

Jamie (4:52) Yeah.

Scott Benner (4:53) Yeah. (4:53) I bet you she I would've yelled at you. (4:54) I just want you to know.

Jamie (4:55) She was not happy. (4:56) She was because I was dating someone else too, and she's like, I feel like you're going back to back to your husband. (5:02) Like, obviously, he wasn't my husband at that time. (5:05) Before, you're breaking up with so and so. (5:07) And I was like, mom, that is not how this happened.

Jamie (5:09) Yes. (5:10) It was very close together, but it's not how it happened.

Scott Benner (5:14) You left the boy though when the guy reached out again?

Jamie (5:16) Yep. (5:18) Because I can't be with somebody else if I have feelings. (5:21) He's like, he he texted me, and I was like, oh, I I still really have really strong feelings for this guy.

Scott Benner (5:27) And your friends didn't try to talk you out of it?

Jamie (5:29) No. (5:30) Most of my friends were for it because they know him.

Scott Benner (5:32) Oh, okay. (5:33) Well, that makes me feel better. (5:35) Hey. (5:35) He doesn't have a lot of money because you said it was money problems. (5:38) Is it a big do you have a does he have, like, a big you know I mean?

Jamie (5:42) No. (5:42) No? (5:43) No. (5:43) No. (5:43) Not not that either.

Jamie (5:45) No. (5:45) It just it really is his heart for the world and the people and the way he treats me and makes me feel.

Scott Benner (5:52) Can I just say to any girl out there, if someone asks you that, just say yes? (5:56) Like, what would have hurt just now for you to go, yeah, that is what it was actually, Scott. (5:59) I gotta tell you. (6:00) It's just it's unimaginable, and I I I had just missed it so much. (6:04) But because he he would have loved that answer.

Scott Benner (6:06) Instead, you went, no. (6:07) That wasn't it.

Jamie (6:08) No. (6:09) I'm not that shallow.

Scott Benner (6:11) Now he's got no. (6:12) But now he's gotta hear that. (6:13) You gotta hear it from his side.

Jamie (6:15) I know. (6:16) I'm sorry. (6:17) I love you, honey.

Scott Benner (6:19) She's not sorry. (6:20) Stop. (6:23) Do you ever get him back sometimes? (6:25) Do you ever give him a zing for the eighteen months and he knows that's what it's for and he just takes it?

Jamie (6:30) Yes.

Scott Benner (6:32) Are you proud?

Jamie (6:32) Yes. (6:33) We do. (6:33) Yeah. (6:34) We do it all the time. (6:35) Are

Scott Benner (6:35) you proud of that or should you stop doing that, Jamie?

Jamie (6:37) I probably should stop doing it. (6:39) Yeah. (6:39) Yeah.

Scott Benner (6:40) Do want me to put that

Jamie (6:40) on the list for you? (6:41) Sometimes I do pick on him and and, you know, you did this. (6:46) Yeah. (6:46) So

Scott Benner (6:47) How about do you have any fear that he's gonna do it again? (6:51) No. (6:52) Your parents

Jamie (6:53) now

Scott Benner (6:53) Go ahead. (6:54) I'm sorry.

Jamie (6:54) Now we own a house together. (6:56) Like, we are financially worse

Scott Benner (6:58) You got them locked in with money situation. (7:01) I got you.

Jamie (7:02) Yep. (7:02) We're stuck now.

Scott Benner (7:03) Yeah.

Jamie (7:03) There's no way. (7:04) So

Scott Benner (7:05) That's how I I I I held on to my wife through the early part because she wasn't sure if she wanted more kids, and I think she wanted them all to look the same. (7:11) So she held on to me just in case.

Jamie (7:13) Oh.

Scott Benner (7:14) And then later, you know, you you put a couple dollars aside and you look at that. (7:17) It's not as much money as you're hoping. (7:19) You think, I can't split that with somebody. (7:20) I guess I gotta let him stay. (7:22) That's how I do it.

Scott Benner (7:22) You understand?

Jamie (7:24) Yeah. (7:24) Yeah.

Scott Benner (7:24) That's how

Jamie (7:25) I hang. (7:25) Yeah.

Scott Benner (7:25) That's how I hang. (7:26) Your parents are still married. (7:28) Right?

Jamie (7:29) No. (7:29) My parents were actually never married.

Scott Benner (7:31) Oh, it may be even different. (7:34) Were they are they together?

Jamie (7:36) No.

Scott Benner (7:36) No? (7:38) Mm-mm. (7:38) But you didn't experience a divorce. (7:40) Would you grow up in a single family household the whole time?

Jamie (7:43) Single parent household? (7:44) Yes. (7:44) I did.

Scott Benner (7:44) Yeah. (7:45) Since you were little. (7:46) You never you didn't see two people love each other and then break up?

Jamie (7:50) Nope.

Scott Benner (7:50) Okay. (7:51) Because so you're not afraid of that happening because you're not afraid of of being alone because you like your mom, and your mom did a good job.

Jamie (7:57) Yeah. (7:58) Yeah. (7:58) My mom my mom I mean, I don't tell her thank you enough, I think, for all the things that she put up with. (8:05) I really should tell her more often. (8:07) We're going over there to see her tonight, so I'm probably gonna sit down, make sure I tell her tonight again.

Jamie (8:11) But Tell her

Scott Benner (8:13) I said hello. (8:13) Yeah.

Jamie (8:15) Yeah. (8:15) Of course.

Scott Benner (8:15) Because thanks for her service raising you. (8:17) Because you sound like you might have been a pain in the ass when you were younger, Jamie.

Jamie (8:20) Oh my gosh. (8:21) I was I was a spitfire. (8:22) I was horrible. (8:23) Always in into something I shouldn't have been, and I'm sure I just gave her a lot of sleepless nights. (8:30) I know that when I was young, there were nights I came home.

Jamie (8:34) I had snuck out of the house, I'd come home drunk or high, and she'd be like, what the hell?

Scott Benner (8:40) What kind of high, Jamie?

Jamie (8:41) Marijuana.

Scott Benner (8:42) Okay. (8:43) What are your top two stories where you think if that happened to me as a parent, I would probably flip out that you did to your mom?

Jamie (8:51) Gosh. (8:52) I don't I have no idea.

Scott Benner (8:53) Nothing sticks out?

Jamie (8:55) No. (8:56) I mean Just the running away.

Scott Benner (8:58) You ran away? (8:59) How old?

Jamie (9:00) I was 16. (9:01) 15.

Scott Benner (9:02) Was it a real runaway? (9:03) Did you actually run away?

Jamie (9:05) Yeah. (9:05) I packed my bags. (9:06) I was gone for a couple of days, and I called the police department to bring me home because I was afraid she would kill me.

Scott Benner (9:14) You ran away when you were 16, stayed away for a few days, called the cops, and said, look, I ran away a few days ago, but I'm going back. (9:21) I And think the lady's gonna lynch me if I get there. (9:23) So can you come with me and make sure she doesn't hurt me? (9:26) Yep. (9:26) Was she gonna hurt you or was she just grateful you were back?

Jamie (9:29) I think she was grateful I was back. (9:31) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (9:32) Yeah. (9:32) I ran away when I was little, but I did the, like, I'm leaving, like, looking over your shoulder, like, does anybody care about this? (9:37) You know what I mean? (9:38) I didn't actually go anywhere. (9:40) Like, walked outside and came back again.

Jamie (9:42) So No. (9:42) I packed my bag and left. (9:43) It was, 10:00 at night, and we had gotten into a fight, I packed my bag up and left.

Scott Benner (9:49) Where do you go when you're 16?

Jamie (9:51) I went to my boyfriend's house.

Scott Benner (9:52) Oh. (9:54) Was he, was he not a good, good kind of boyfriend?

Jamie (9:57) No. (9:57) He was not a good influence at all.

Scott Benner (9:59) Mhmm. (10:00) I gotcha.

Jamie (10:01) Yeah. (10:02) Glad we dodged that bullet.

Scott Benner (10:03) Did your mom know that?

Jamie (10:04) Yeah. (10:05) My mom knew that. (10:06) She knew that he was a part of my life. (10:08) She didn't approve of him. (10:10) And I'm pretty sure she knew I was there, but there wasn't a whole lot she could do even though she had called the police.

Jamie (10:16) So

Scott Benner (10:17) When my girlfriend one of my girlfriends broke up with me, my mom was like, oh, thank god. (10:22) She was no good. (10:22) And I was like, oh, no. (10:23) She was lovely. (10:24) My mom was like, no.

Scott Benner (10:26) She wasn't. (10:26) I was like, okay. (10:28) But then again, don't know if my mom likes Kelly or not. (10:30) My mom's dead now. (10:31) I can't ask her, but, you

Jamie (10:32) know Oh.

Scott Benner (10:33) She's I know. (10:33) I'm just kidding. (10:34) She like Kelly. (10:35) Sorry. (10:35) My sarcasm got too it was too tight there.

Scott Benner (10:38) It made you sad. (10:39) I didn't mean for that to happen. (10:41) I was being sarcastic. (10:42) My mom did like Kelly after a while.

Jamie (10:46) Yeah. (10:46) Sometimes it takes a while, but, you know, then you learn how nice people are or what how great they really are for your kid and, you know, or for your your friends, and you're just like, hey. (10:57) Yeah. (10:57) You are really a good a blessing to us and and that, I mean

Scott Benner (11:01) Did the cop laugh at you? (11:03) First of they actually sent a cop to bring you home? (11:06) Yeah. (11:07) And did the cop laugh right at you?

Jamie (11:09) He didn't laugh. (11:10) He let me have it. (11:11) How dare you do this to your mother? (11:13) How dare you run away and behave like this? (11:15) And you're gonna be in so much trouble if you keep on down this path and blah blah blah blah blah.

Scott Benner (11:20) He tried to scare you straight while you're in the car?

Jamie (11:22) Oh, yeah.

Scott Benner (11:23) You sit in the back behind the cage?

Jamie (11:26) Yep. (11:26) They will let you sit in the front where the guns are.

Scott Benner (11:30) No. (11:31) Oh, they saw you, and they're like, we can't let her near the guns? (11:36) Funny story,

Jamie (11:37) though. (11:37) I

Scott Benner (11:37) mean Wait. (11:38) Wait. (11:38) Funny story. (11:38) Go ahead. (11:39) Wait.

Scott Benner (11:39) What? (11:39) Go ahead.

Jamie (11:40) I went into law enforcement. (11:42) That's how I ended up, you know, in the field of retail loss prevention. (11:46) I was in a police officer for a while. (11:48) And, man

Scott Benner (11:50) Wait. (11:50) You were a police officer for a while?

Jamie (11:52) For a little yeah. (11:53) A year. (11:54) And I it was not it was not a good department. (11:57) So

Scott Benner (11:58) Did you have to go to police academy and do all the stuff? (12:00) Did you get hired directly and they sent you to academy? (12:03) How does that work?

Jamie (12:04) I got hired directly and they sent me.

Scott Benner (12:06) And then you didn't like them. (12:08) Did they like you? (12:09) Was this a preemptive?

Jamie (12:10) I I think it was pretty pretty mutual. (12:13) We did not fit together.

Scott Benner (12:15) You were like, I don't like you and you don't like me. (12:17) I'm gonna get out of here now.

Jamie (12:18) Yep.

Scott Benner (12:19) Did you ever get to, like, pull your gun out?

Jamie (12:22) No.

Scott Benner (12:22) No? (12:23) Did what's the craziest thing you did as a police officer?

Jamie (12:27) We did like, there were some SWAT things where we ended up keeping perimeters. (12:31) There was I worked in the jail a lot because I was low in the seniority. (12:35) Mhmm. (12:36) And so I didn't really carry my gun when I was at the jail because, obviously, you can't carry a gun in the jail. (12:42) So

Scott Benner (12:43) Do ever get into an altercation? (12:44) Do ever have to tase somebody? (12:45) I love those taser videos.

Jamie (12:47) Oh, I hate tasers. (12:48) I hate them.

Scott Benner (12:50) Did you have to get tased to carry a taser?

Jamie (12:53) You do have to get tased to carry a taser, and I never took the taser hit because they terrify me.

Scott Benner (12:58) Mhmm. (12:58) Okay. (13:00) Would you have a stick? (13:01) Were you a cop with what's this, England? (13:02) Did you have a stick?

Jamie (13:03) No. (13:04) I mean, we did have batons, but no. (13:06) That's a stick.

Scott Benner (13:07) Yeah. (13:07) Like, wait.

Jamie (13:09) One of those, like firearm.

Scott Benner (13:11) Was it one of them that you extended, like, the movies?

Jamie (13:14) Yeah. (13:15) Yeah. (13:15) Collapsibles?

Scott Benner (13:16) Yeah. (13:16) Yeah. (13:16) Yeah. (13:17) Yeah. (13:17) It looks so scary when somebody opens one of those up.

Scott Benner (13:20) Like, oh, I'm gonna get smacked with that thing for sure.

Jamie (13:22) And the weight is really nice on them.

Scott Benner (13:24) Oh.

Jamie (13:25) Like, you can inflict some serious damage with those with just the flick of a wrist.

Scott Benner (13:29) No kidding. (13:30) I'm not gonna get

Jamie (13:31) Yeah. (13:31) If you don't use it right, you are you are causing some serious damage to somebody's body.

Scott Benner (13:37) No kidding. (13:37) Well, we'll make sure Kelly doesn't, like, get one of those then.

Jamie (13:40) Yeah. (13:41) Don't let Kelly get

Scott Benner (13:41) one of How long were you a cop for before you you quit?

Jamie (13:45) Just a just a year.

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Jamie (16:10) It was classes on and off that they sent me to while I worked there in the training. (16:16) So I didn't have a full, like, law enforcement certification, so I couldn't do the road like, a road shift by myself. (16:23) I had to be with somebody else if I went on the road.

Scott Benner (16:25) Gotcha. (16:26) Did they let you drive though?

Jamie (16:28) No. (16:29) I never drove because I didn't have a squad assigned to me, so I didn't drive.

Scott Benner (16:32) Oh, so you when you bounce somebody, you were the extra all the time.

Jamie (16:35) Yeah.

Scott Benner (16:36) Gotcha. (16:36) You know what show Usually. (16:38) Go ahead.

Jamie (16:38) Usually, I was in the jail because they needed a female officer in the jail twenty four hours a day.

Scott Benner (16:43) To pat the ladies down.

Jamie (16:45) Yep. (16:45) And then they were short staffed on females, plus I was the lowest on the totem pole for seniority as it was. (16:52) Uh-huh. (16:53) So even if I wasn't covering a female shift, I was still stuck in the jail most of the days.

Scott Benner (16:57) What do people try to sneak in and where do they try to sneak it in?

Jamie (17:02) A lot of people stick things in their private parts that they're just not supposed to, or they have things, like, stuck in the folds of their skin.

Scott Benner (17:09) Wait. (17:09) What when you say private parts, you're and you're talking about females. (17:13) There's obviously the two that come to mind. (17:15) So, like, which one is used more frequently? (17:20) The front or the back?

Jamie (17:22) The for women, I know I saw a few with it that had in the front.

Scott Benner (17:26) What are they trying to well, we they squat and cough and it falls out. (17:30) Right?

Jamie (17:31) Not always. (17:31) No. (17:32) We there was a I had a special detail once where I had to go to the the hospital with an with an inmate who was brought in to the jail, and they admitted to having stuff up there, and they couldn't get it out.

Scott Benner (17:45) Well, that's a humble brag a little bit, don't you think?

Jamie (17:48) It's an embarrassing I I feel embarrassed for her still.

Scott Benner (17:52) I feel embarrassed for her still. (17:54) I I sent her a holiday card, Scott. (17:56) I'm very, very upset for her. (17:57) So you did the squat, cough. (17:59) It didn't come out.

Scott Benner (18:00) You knew something was there. (18:01) I don't know how. (18:02) And then

Jamie (18:03) She told us.

Scott Benner (18:04) She what was it? (18:05) Please tell me what was in there. (18:06) Please tell me.

Jamie (18:07) She had marijuana, bags of marijuana. (18:10) But so if somebody is doing like, when you're doing the strip search

Scott Benner (18:15) Yeah.

Jamie (18:15) And if they lose their bladder, it's a sure sign that there's something up there.

Scott Benner (18:21) Oh, so she peed.

Jamie (18:24) Yeah. (18:24) So she peed herself, and I was like, what is going on here?

Scott Benner (18:27) You said, hey. (18:27) What's your hoochie? (18:28) And she said, bags of weed. (18:30) I can't get it out. (18:31) Please help me.

Jamie (18:32) Well, no. (18:33) She was like, there's nothing. (18:34) I don't know what you're talking about. (18:36) And so I told my lieutenant who called the judge and woke the judge up and got they got a body cavity search that night. (18:42) And we went to the emergency room, and as the doctors were in the hospital, she's, like, in her gown, and she's in her cuffs with me.

Jamie (18:51) And she looks at me and she goes, okay. (18:53) I have to be honest. (18:54) And I was like, yeah. (18:55) And she goes, well, there's there's I have two bags of marijuana up there. (18:58) And I was like, I kinda figured now that we're here, we're gonna let the doctor handle it.

Scott Benner (19:02) Yeah. (19:02) How much weed?

Jamie (19:03) Oh god. (19:04) It was it was a decent size.

Scott Benner (19:06) Was it personal use? (19:08) She was taking it in for herself?

Jamie (19:09) No. (19:10) She I don't think she was planning on being arrested that night.

Scott Benner (19:13) Oh. (19:14) Oh. (19:14) Oh. (19:14) If if if if ew. (19:16) Oh, no.

Jamie (19:16) And it was up there. (19:17) They had put it up there for something, her and her boyfriend, and then they couldn't get it back out.

Scott Benner (19:22) They never heard of pockets, you think?

Jamie (19:25) I I mean

Scott Benner (19:26) Is weed legal in in Minnesota?

Jamie (19:29) It is legal in Minnesota, but I was working in Wisconsin at the time.

Scott Benner (19:32) Oh, in the big Conston. (19:33) I gotcha.

Jamie (19:34) And it was not legal. (19:36) Know it's definitely not legal to take it into the into the jail.

Scott Benner (19:39) Jail. (19:40) Yeah. (19:40) No. (19:40) I by the way, I I for some reason, no weed's not legal in Wisconsin. (19:44) Why do I know that?

Scott Benner (19:45) It doesn't matter why.

Jamie (19:46) I think you had somebody else on the podcast and you were talking about it.

Scott Benner (19:49) Oh, that's probably why. (19:50) I know things I don't know why I know them. (19:51) This is sometimes why people say it, and I'm like, oh, that's stuck in my head.

Jamie (19:55) Yeah. (19:56) Okay. (19:56) Me too.

Scott Benner (19:57) Okay. (19:57) Well, that's awesome. (20:00) And you quit that job?

Jamie (20:02) Yeah. (20:02) And then I went to retail loss prevention. (20:04) I did that for a lot of years. (20:05) I really loved it.

Scott Benner (20:06) Yeah.

Jamie (20:07) And I'm an adrenaline junkie. (20:09) I was I was, you know, I was good at it. (20:11) I could catch a shoplifter in my sleep.

Scott Benner (20:13) No kidding. (20:14) Is it happening constantly, shoplifting?

Jamie (20:17) Oh, yeah.

Scott Benner (20:18) Yeah. (20:18) Just constantly. (20:18) Why am I paying for everything? (20:21) Why don't I go shoplift something? (20:23) Does everybody get caught?

Jamie (20:24) Not everybody. (20:25) No. (20:25) But I would catch you.

Scott Benner (20:27) Oh, I take that as a challenge. (20:28) I think I could get away with it.

Jamie (20:30) I don't do that anymore, though. (20:32) Now I work for a law firm.

Scott Benner (20:33) What? (20:34) Can I just say something? (20:35) Wait. (20:35) Wait. (20:36) Wait, Jamie.

Scott Benner (20:36) Before I hear about the law firm, let's just patent this idea right now. (20:40) What a great idea for a mister beast video, at least, maybe a game show. (20:48) Loss prevention people try to catch people shoplifting, and not everybody in the show is shoplifting. (20:57) And some people get to pretend to shoplift, and if they get caught and they're not really shoplifting, they get points. (21:02) And if you're able to shoplift something without somebody seeing you shoplifted, you get points.

Scott Benner (21:07) And if the guy catches you, girl, could k. (21:10) Could be a girl. (21:11) Obviously, Jamie did it. (21:12) Mhmm. (21:13) Like, they catch you, then they get points.

Scott Benner (21:15) Whoever's got the most points at the end wins. (21:17) But if if team shoplifter team, not shoplifter team lost prevention. (21:21) I am having a fucking awesome idea right now. (21:24) Why is no one writing this down?

Jamie (21:26) It's it would be a fun show.

Scott Benner (21:28) Patent pending.

Jamie (21:29) Yeah.

Scott Benner (21:29) What a great idea.

Jamie (21:30) So I can tell you though, if you get if you are a loss prevention agent or officer and you make an apprehension of somebody you suspect of shoplifting and they did not in fact shoplift, you are very likely gonna lose your job.

Scott Benner (21:44) Oh, I shoplifted as a child.

Jamie (21:47) I never did.

Scott Benner (21:48) Never? (21:49) No. (21:51) Am I gonna

Jamie (21:51) I stole something once from my best friend when she was, like, five You stole it from five or six.

Scott Benner (21:56) You stole it from her?

Jamie (21:57) She had, like, this cute little, like, jewelry box that I really wanted. (22:03) And instead of asking her, I took it. (22:05) And she knew I took it, and she confronted me. (22:07) And and I was like, I took it. (22:08) I'm sorry.

Jamie (22:08) And she's like, why didn't you just ask me for it? (22:10) I would have given it to you.

Scott Benner (22:11) I had a kid steal one of my Jawa action figures one time from Star Wars. (22:15) I was pissed.

Jamie (22:17) I'd be mad too.

Scott Benner (22:18) Yeah. (22:18) You know what? (22:18) That was a real problem, by the way, back then. (22:20) We started getting Star Wars action figures. (22:22) My dad and mom got me a Jawa, but was, like, dozens of Jawas in the movie.

Scott Benner (22:26) So I was like, I need more of them. (22:27) And my parents were like, we're not buying you multiple of these. (22:30) And I'm like, but that there's more than one in the movie. (22:32) It was a big bone of contention in my life.

Jamie (22:34) How do you recreate your scenes without having 12?

Scott Benner (22:36) I mean, that's where I was at, just so you know. (22:40) But am I gonna admit to what I shop with? (22:42) I mean, I was a little kid. (22:43) I guess I would. (22:45) Why not?

Scott Benner (22:45) Right? (22:46) I think I was a teenager, probably 14, 15, and they'd come out with portable televisions. (22:54) So Oh. (22:55) Try to imagine a TV that's maybe no more than six inches tall, maybe five inches wide, inch thick, had an actual, like, old radio antenna, like, extended antenna down the side of it and had the screen was probably only two by one. (23:11) And it was a TV and it had tuner in it.

Scott Benner (23:13) You could, like, tune in, like, you know, ABC, CBS, three six ten, like, that kind of stuff, right, over the air television. (23:19) And I, I swiped that thing right out of a Kmart like it was nothing. (23:23) I just wanna let you all know. (23:24) I just I get that right out of there. (23:25) It was no trouble at all.

Scott Benner (23:26) I was later apprehended for stealing candy from a seven Eleven in my Of course. (23:31) My crime spree summer.

Jamie (23:34) Yeah. (23:34) Yeah. (23:34) Yeah. (23:35) It it depends on, like, who's watching too for stuff like that. (23:39) So, I mean, it it really it does vary.

Scott Benner (23:44) Can I test my theory on you, Jamie?

Jamie (23:46) What's that?

Scott Benner (23:47) So there's probably way more cameras nowadays than there used to be. (23:50) I'm gonna say that first of all.

Jamie (23:51) Oh, yeah?

Scott Benner (23:52) Yeah. (23:52) Yeah. (23:52) So I maybe wouldn't be as good at this as but I would love I'm telling you, I would love to try. (23:57) I don't want the thing. (23:58) I just wanna know if I could do it.

Scott Benner (24:00) Anyway, that's not the point. (24:02) The point is is that I found that just acting like you weren't doing anything wrong was the key to it. (24:08) Like, it was more body language, I thought, than the actually, my theory is is that I could walk into a store, walk out with an arm full of stuff, and you wouldn't notice if I looked like I was supposed to be doing it. (24:19) Am I onto something?

Jamie (24:21) Yeah. (24:22) Mhmm. (24:22) I mean and that's part of why I was, like, really good at is because I could I could pick up on those little nuances. (24:28) Those little Yeah. (24:29) The nervous tick, the the quick glance around.

Jamie (24:33) Right. (24:34) And I was good at floor walking and, like, blending in. (24:37) So, you know, that I had more than once where I stood there and held the door open as somebody walked past me and then, you know

Scott Benner (24:45) Tapped him on the shoulder.

Jamie (24:46) My badge. (24:47) Yeah. (24:47) Yeah. (24:47) Yeah. (24:48) I have loss prevention coming back in with me.

Scott Benner (24:50) Do people run ever?

Jamie (24:52) Oh, yeah. (24:53) Yeah. (24:53) People run all the time and, you know, wrestle with you or fight you and it's yeah. (24:59) Tussle.

Scott Benner (24:59) A tussle. (24:59) Nice. (25:00) I saw a video online recently where there was a guy, like, stealing, like I I think it was, like, a cart full of food, And he's, like, he's making his way through the the the parking lot, there's somebody chasing after him and yelling at him, like, from the store. (25:14) And that guy, like, quits. (25:15) Like, I guess they're probably told not to, like, pursue them too far.

Scott Benner (25:19) And a bystander comes along with an empty cart and just trucks the guy in the cart and knocks him over. (25:24) And he's like, I'm so tired of you people. (25:27) And he's like, that's my stuff. (25:28) He goes, well, if it's your stuff, pick it up and leave with it. (25:30) And the guy ran off.

Scott Benner (25:31) And I was like, oh my god. (25:32) It was the craziest video. (25:34) He didn't hit the guy with the card. (25:35) He hit the other card. (25:36) He, like, blew up the card, knocked it over.

Scott Benner (25:38) And the guy's like, yo. (25:39) It's my stuff. (25:39) He goes, it's not your stuff. (25:40) It was awesome. (25:44) You've had a fun life.

Jamie (25:46) It's it's been a bit crazy. (25:48) Yeah. (25:48) I'm a troublemaker still, even, you know, in the ripe old age of 44. (25:52) I'm I'm I'm up to stuff all the time.

Scott Benner (25:55) How does a 44 year old cause trouble?

Jamie (25:58) Oh, gosh. (25:59) I'm always into everything. (26:01) I don't even know. (26:02) We go to the stores, and I'm like, that guy's shoplifting. (26:06) And my husband's like, you do not work here?

Jamie (26:09) Shut up. (26:09) Shut up. (26:11) You do not work here. (26:14) And I'm like, but he's stealing. (26:16) And yeah.

Jamie (26:17) So there's there's

Scott Benner (26:19) You see it while you're shopping. (26:20) Like, you you still watch it happen?

Jamie (26:23) Oh, yeah.

Scott Benner (26:24) Yeah?

Jamie (26:24) It's hard to just let it go because it's part of the reason that prices are so high, and it fuels so many other things in our economy and destroys our economy. (26:33) But also, like, it's just hard to let it go because it's so ingrained in me to do something about it.

Scott Benner (26:40) Yeah.

Jamie (26:41) But I don't work for that store.

Scott Benner (26:43) Do you say something? (26:44) Do you ever go like, hey. (26:45) That guy's, like, stealing something right now?

Jamie (26:47) Yeah. (26:48) Yep. (26:48) We had one just the other it was, like, three weeks ago. (26:51) We went into a quick trip. (26:52) It's a gas station out here.

Jamie (26:53) Mhmm. (26:54) And there's a guy standing there just shoving food up his jacket sleeve. (26:58) So I was like, hey. (26:59) Why don't you put that back? (27:00) And he's like, I don't know what you mean.

Jamie (27:02) And I was like, hey. (27:02) That guy's stealing.

Scott Benner (27:04) Did he freak out?

Jamie (27:05) And my husband yeah. (27:06) He he put it all down and ran. (27:08) Wow. (27:09) My husband's like, what is wrong with you? (27:11) And I'm like, dude, he's stealing food from the gas station.

Jamie (27:14) If he's hungry, I will buy him a meal, but he doesn't need to steal it.

Scott Benner (27:18) Wow. (27:18) Look at you. (27:19) Did you buy him something?

Jamie (27:21) No. (27:21) Because he ran.

Scott Benner (27:22) Is a guy been on the corner near my house recently holding the sign says, like, I need money and blah blah blah. (27:28) You know, after you see him once, you feel terrible and then, you know

Jamie (27:31) And you see him again and you're kinda numb?

Scott Benner (27:33) Well, the twentieth time in a row, it is a little numbing. (27:35) Right? (27:35) Like, he's there every day and, like and I looked over the other day and he's got a giant iced coffee and he's on his phone. (27:44) And I'm like, I mean, aren't those coffees, like, $10? (27:50) And like and I'm like,

Jamie (27:51) guess someone bought it for him.

Scott Benner (27:52) And then I'm hoping so they're right, but then it goes to my head. (27:55) Like, god. (27:55) I hope somebody gave it to him. (27:56) You know what I mean? (27:57) Like, also, he's got a phone.

Scott Benner (27:58) Phones seem expensive to me or maybe they're not. (28:01) Like, maybe it's a thing you get through services. (28:03) I don't know exactly. (28:04) But it it gave me all kinds of question. (28:06) It gave me more questions than answers.

Scott Benner (28:08) You know what I mean?

Jamie (28:09) Yeah.

Scott Benner (28:10) Yeah. (28:10) That was all. (28:11) I wanted everyone to know in the end.

Jamie (28:12) You should sit down and talk to him, see if he'll talk to you on the podcast.

Scott Benner (28:15) I gotta tell you, that's that's my next thing. (28:17) I'm gonna start I'm gonna start just podcasting with people out in the world who are, like, extreme. (28:21) Would that be a good idea, wouldn't

Jamie (28:24) Yeah. (28:24) Just randomly walk around and start talking to people.

Scott Benner (28:26) I think I could do it. (28:27) That's my first thought.

Jamie (28:28) I'm sure you could. (28:29) You you you talk to people really well. (28:31) You're pretty sociable.

Scott Benner (28:33) I am I am. (28:33) Jimmy, thank you. (28:34) I appreciate this. (28:35) Actually, you know, I shared online today that, an acquaintance of mine, not a person I see frequently at all, older guy than me by probably fifteen years, ten years. (28:45) I don't know how old I am exactly or how old he is, but he's a lot older than me.

Scott Benner (28:48) And he lost the dog, lost a pet. (28:51) And I knew the dog had passed, but I didn't realize that it had passed very, like, recently. (28:56) I just knew the dog had passed. (28:58) And I offered my condolences when I bumped into him. (29:01) And rather unexpectedly, because he's not I didn't take him as this kind of guy, But he got real, like, emotionally, like, started feeling all of his feelings.

Scott Benner (29:10) And we're talking and he's, like, he's crying, and we were in public. (29:13) And I was not uncomfortable. (29:15) I made eye contact the whole time. (29:17) I asked good questions. (29:18) I was supportive.

Scott Benner (29:19) Like, I did a I did a really good job of, like, having that conversation with him and I think letting him get through things, getting him back on his way, feeling well. (29:27) And when I walked away, I thought, that's because of that podcast I make. (29:31) Like, a decade ago, I would not have been good at this. (29:34) Like, I would have said, hey. (29:36) I'm so sorry to hear about your dog.

Scott Benner (29:37) And then he would have got upset, and I would have been like, I wasn't looking for all

Jamie (29:41) know what to say. (29:42) Yeah.

Scott Benner (29:42) Please, like, I let me apologize for bringing this up, let's get away from each other now. (29:46) It's probably how it would have felt to me, but I was not uncomfortable while he was having his feelings. (29:51) I kept eye contact, which was I thought a big deal. (29:54) Because if you've listened to the podcast for a long time, you might know that I wasn't good at eye contact, like, many years ago. (29:59) And I asked good reflexive questions.

Scott Benner (30:02) I kept him on a good pace. (30:03) I said encouraging things. (30:05) I brought a little bit of my own experience and without making it about myself. (30:08) Like, I was really proud of myself when I walked away. (30:10) Not that I was, you know that wasn't my takeaway from the moment, but, like and I was happy for him because I don't think that that he has another outlet in his life to have those emotions.

Jamie (30:21) Yeah. (30:21) Yeah. (30:22) It's hard. (30:23) I struggle I I do a lot of I'm pretty active in our church, so I'm around a lot of people with that. (30:30) And I still struggle sometimes when people come to me with emotional things, like, I don't know how to always handle it.

Scott Benner (30:36) Yeah.

Jamie (30:36) And sometimes it makes me cry.

Scott Benner (30:39) Yeah. (30:39) It's not helpful to them.

Jamie (30:40) Which I'm sure is is even more awkward.

Scott Benner (30:43) Like, great. (30:44) This lady asked me how I'm doing, and now she's crying. (30:46) Awesome.

Jamie (30:47) Yeah. (30:48) Yep.

Scott Benner (30:48) And there it was. (30:49) Like, I did not expect that to happen. (30:51) It ended up being good. (30:52) I actually even found myself thinking much later, not during it. (30:56) I'm not a sociopath.

Scott Benner (30:57) But, like, during it, like, I'm like, oh, later I thought, that would have been interesting. (31:02) Like, to hear that recorded, that ten or fifteen minutes, like, I think it would have been interesting to people. (31:07) So Yeah. (31:08) Nevertheless. (31:09) Maybe one day I'll stop doing this podcast.

Scott Benner (31:10) I'll start making a different kind. (31:12) I'll go out in the world and just randomly interview people.

Jamie (31:15) I don't know. (31:15) Where would people be without your podcast, though? (31:17) Like, Juice Sauce podcast has been such a part of my diabetes life.

Scott Benner (31:22) Really?

Jamie (31:23) Yeah. (31:23) Like, it really has framed how I think about my diabetes and how I handle it and how I treat it. (31:31) And a lot of people feel like it's a a disability to them, but I don't feel like it really disables it. (31:37) I feel like it just changes the way I live. (31:39) It's not disabling me from doing things.

Scott Benner (31:42) Yeah.

Jamie (31:43) And I think a big part of that is from listening to your podcast because it gave me that, like, the hope and the ability to make those decisions and treatment decisions on my own without being forced to constantly ask the doctor for help. (31:56) Mhmm. (31:57) And, yeah, it's really shaped how I handle my diabetes. (32:01) Oh. (32:01) I don't know how else to explain it.

Scott Benner (32:03) Well, no. (32:03) You explained it really well, and I I really appreciate you sharing that with me. (32:06) Thank you. (32:07) Yeah. (32:07) I don't know.

Scott Benner (32:08) I feel lucky to be in the position where that's true and that you're able to tell me about it. (32:13) Because, you know, very similarly, when we got done talking, the guy said to me, he's like, I really appreciate this. (32:18) Thank you. (32:18) I'm sorry for dumping all this on you, he said. (32:20) I was I wanted to say, like, oh, it's okay.

Scott Benner (32:22) I make a podcast. (32:23) I'm used to this. (32:24) I'm used to people telling me how horrible their lives are or how sad they are or what's going wrong for them and then chatting through it. (32:31) I just was like, no. (32:32) It's my pleasure.

Scott Benner (32:32) And I actually told him. (32:33) I said, I'm proud of you, man. (32:34) I'm like, you know, your age, like, I'm sure you didn't grow up with a dad who would have cried about his dog passing away, and I don't imagine anybody modeled that for him. (32:43) And and I thought it was a big deal. (32:44) Like, I congratulate him for standing there and feeling how he felt.

Scott Benner (32:47) You know? (32:48) Yeah. (32:49) Yeah. (32:49) I thought it was really, really kinda special. (32:51) And I appreciate you saying that very much.

Scott Benner (32:53) Thank you.

Jamie (32:53) Even in my age growing up, like and I don't think you're I think we're almost the same age. (32:58) We're not that you're not that much No.

Scott Benner (33:00) You don't understand. (33:01) Older than you're 44?

Jamie (33:04) Yeah.

Scott Benner (33:04) Yeah. (33:05) That's ten years younger than me. (33:06) Those ten years are like Really? (33:07) Yeah. (33:08) When, like, ligaments stop working in your joints and stuff like that.

Scott Benner (33:11) Those are those are not

Jamie (33:11) Oh, gosh. (33:12) No. (33:12) I'm already there. (33:13) No. (33:13) I was

Scott Benner (33:13) gonna say those are not fun ten years, forty four to fifty four. (33:16) The only good thing that happens in this decade is if you don't get sick and you're not dying or somebody hasn't died in your life, you start feeling a little like you understand the world. (33:27) And that's kinda comforting. (33:29) Like, any of the, like, nervousness or anxiety you have, like, eventually goes I don't know if you get your ten thousand hours or, you know, whatever. (33:36) For me, at least, like, things slowed down.

Scott Benner (33:39) I feel more present. (33:41) I feel more, like, I understand.

Jamie (33:44) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (33:44) I feel less worried. (33:47) I feel less rushed. (33:49) I, like, I understand now what people say when, like, you know, it's so life's so upsetting the way it works. (33:54) It starts off, you don't know anything, and just when you're figuring it out, you die. (33:58) Like, I get I get that vibe now.

Scott Benner (34:00) Because now, like

Jamie (34:01) Okay.

Scott Benner (34:01) Yeah. (34:02) Like, I wanna stay alive now because, I'm like, I wonder I could probably do something now. (34:06) Like, I'm I'm tuned in now at this point. (34:08) But your body, not is not great. (34:11) It that that part's not like, I saw myself in a video the other day and I was like, oh, I look older.

Scott Benner (34:16) And I don't even know how to put that. (34:17) It's just like the like, your frame or the way you move or something like that. (34:21) That that part's upsetting.

Jamie (34:23) See, I feel like that was all of my autoimmune except for my fish well, my shellfish allergy and my latex allergy. (34:31) Those happened when I was younger, but everything else has been since my diabetes diagnosis.

Scott Benner (34:38) Okay. (34:38) Latex allergy, by the way, sounds like the start of a childish eighties joke, but how did you figure out oh, I guess I'm gonna ask. (34:46) How did you figure out you had a latex allergy?

Jamie (34:48) When I was working at the sheriff's department, our gloves were latex.

Scott Benner (34:52) Oh. (34:53) Oh. (34:53) You couldn't have got that weed out of there one way or the other. (34:56) That would've been a problem for you.

Jamie (34:58) I was yeah. (34:59) Gotcha. (34:59) So, I mean so it's just one of those things. (35:02) And then as I've gotten older, you know, like, all the autoimmune diseases have just, like Piled. (35:06) Riddled my body.

Jamie (35:08) And then I had long COVID and all of, like, all of the things. (35:13) And it's just like, what what next is this body gonna come up with to try to kill me?

Scott Benner (35:17) Have you gotten through long COVID, or does it flare up on you sometimes?

Jamie (35:22) It flares up on me. (35:23) I'm actually trying the nicotine patch therapy right now. (35:27) The protocol for that is, like, seven milligrams.

Scott Benner (35:31) Woah. (35:31) Woah. (35:31) Hold on a second. (35:32) Slow so you're all hold on. (35:33) I wanna hear about this so much.

Scott Benner (35:35) I tried to get my wife to pay attention to this, and she poo pooed me. (35:38) Tell me Oh. (35:39) Who who delivered you this idea that this was an idea? (35:42) How did you get it going? (35:43) What has your outcomes been like so far?

Jamie (35:46) So a friend of mine has brought it up to me a couple of times. (35:49) Like, you should try the nicotine patch therapy. (35:52) And then my chiropractor started talking about it. (35:54) He was like, I read a study about nicotine patch therapy. (35:57) Maybe it would help you.

Jamie (35:59) And I finally bit the bullet and researched the nicotine patches and decided on a brand and ordered them from Amazon. (36:07) And I cut them into strips of three. (36:11) So they're the twenty one milligram patches, and I cut them into three.

Scott Benner (36:14) Go on.

Jamie (36:14) The one patch lasts for three days, and I change it every night before bed. (36:19) And I am on so I started this will be twenty one days will be on Sunday.

Scott Benner (36:25) Okay. (36:26) So you're twenty one days into it. (36:27) And any Yes. (36:29) Any impacts at all?

Jamie (36:30) My brain fog is a lot better.

Scott Benner (36:33) Mhmm.

Jamie (36:34) The nerve pain today is the first day I've had any kind of nerve pain in almost two weeks, which is a first in quite a while.

Scott Benner (36:43) Describe the nerve pain.

Jamie (36:45) Like, my my skin feels like it's on fire.

Scott Benner (36:48) Okay.

Jamie (36:49) And it'll roam. (36:51) So, like, today, it's in my left foot, like, in my toes. (36:56) And then, like, tomorrow, it would be in a different spot, or it might be in a different spot in a couple days. (37:01) Sometimes it lasts a couple days in one spot. (37:03) Sometimes it would just move every day.

Jamie (37:05) Sometimes I would go a day or two without it.

Scott Benner (37:07) Right.

Jamie (37:08) And the migraines. (37:09) The migraines have just been insane.

Scott Benner (37:12) You you you get headaches since you've had COVID?

Jamie (37:15) Yeah. (37:16) I had migraines. (37:17) I've had a history of migraines, but COVID set them off again

Scott Benner (37:20) Okay.

Jamie (37:22) Where I was getting them almost every day.

Scott Benner (37:24) Which patch did you go with? (37:25) The habitual?

Jamie (37:27) No. (37:27) I picked rugby, the rugby brand.

Scott Benner (37:29) Okay. (37:30) Rugby. (37:31) And Yeah. (37:33) Where did you learn like, when you said the protocol let's use that word lightly because it sounds like a thing you got on Reddit, but that's still fine. (37:40) I see you out there, Reddit, and I appreciate you.

Jamie (37:43) Right.

Scott Benner (37:44) Where did you hear like, where did you get this protocol from?

Jamie (37:47) I actually googled and started looking at different studies that have been published. (37:51) And the COVID Institute had one that said to try seven milligrams for twenty one days.

Scott Benner (37:57) And do you stop it after that?

Jamie (37:59) Yeah. (38:00) Supposedly, you can just be done and it should be better. (38:03) So we'll see.

Scott Benner (38:05) I need you, and I'm not joking, to email me in a couple weeks and tell me how it's going.

Jamie (38:11) Yeah.

Scott Benner (38:12) Alright? (38:12) Because this girl I married is, is struggling a little

Jamie (38:16) bit. (38:17) With the COVID?

Scott Benner (38:18) Yeah. (38:18) The long COVID. (38:19) And she's here every day. (38:20) You know what I mean? (38:21) Like, I can't get rid of her now.

Scott Benner (38:22) I've been with her for, like, thirty years. (38:23) Well, I could do what your husband did, I guess, and just fucking disappear. (38:27) But Right?

Jamie (38:31) See, I'm

Scott Benner (38:32) really up for that. (38:33) As I mentioned earlier, we've saved a couple of dollars and I don't wanna lose half of it.

Jamie (38:37) Right.

Scott Benner (38:38) It's not enough. (38:39) You know, it's not enough, but it's enough. (38:40) You know what I'm saying?

Jamie (38:42) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (38:43) Goddamn. (38:44) Oh, I I have I have such hope for you about this. (38:46) What is the idea behind what it might do for you?

Jamie (38:50) So according to the the papers I've read, so COVID is binding to a nicotine receptor in your body, which is causing a lot of the long term effects. (39:00) Mhmm. (39:00) And so by using it, a nicotine patch, like, in seven milligrams a day for twenty one days, it's not a habit forming. (39:05) So, like, you should be able to stop it and not have any withdrawals.

Scott Benner (39:08) Okay.

Jamie (39:09) And so it's enough though that it puts the nicotine into your body and disrupts the COVID that's stuck to that nicotine receptor and knocks it out of there.

Scott Benner (39:18) No kidding.

Jamie (39:20) That's what I've read.

Scott Benner (39:21) And this is something you, like, heard on Joe Rogan or something like that. (39:24) Like, it actually might be like a I mean, I'm looking at it now. (39:27) Covidinstitute.org nicotine dash patch dash protocol. (39:31) Yeah. (39:32) So you heard this online.

Scott Benner (39:33) You read about it, and then you're trying it.

Jamie (39:35) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (39:35) You're on the twenty first day today. (39:37) Just

Jamie (39:37) No. (39:38) Sunday is my twenty first will be my last patch.

Scott Benner (39:41) We do not support using a nicotine patch for any longer than thirty days and preferably no longer than fourteen days. (39:48) Yeah. (39:48) You saw the same

Jamie (39:49) I chose

Scott Benner (39:49) website that I'm looking at.

Jamie (39:51) Yep. (39:52) I chose twenty one days because there were some other studies, and I don't remember what other studies I read that had said that it needed to be at least twenty one days to be fully effective.

Scott Benner (40:03) Any unpleasant side effects?

Jamie (40:05) So I have pretty sensitive skin, but sometimes it itches.

Scott Benner (40:10) The

Jamie (40:10) patch will

Scott Benner (40:11) itch. (40:11) Yeah.

Jamie (40:12) And sometimes they don't stay on for a full twenty four hours, which is kind of annoying. (40:16) Like Ugh. (40:18) Stay put. (40:18) You know? (40:19) Like yeah.

Jamie (40:20) Because, like, we're used to our diabetes, like, devices staying on for ten days or or Yeah. (40:24) Yeah. (40:25) Full eighty hours. (40:26) And here's a nicotine patch that can't even make it twenty four hours. (40:29) Like, what a piece of crap.

Scott Benner (40:30) I wonder what else this could do for me. (40:32) Could this help me? (40:33) I don't have long COVID, but I, I would like to feel better. (40:35) What does this got to do with anything?

Jamie (40:38) I I don't know. (40:39) I don't know, but it it's really done wonders for me.

Scott Benner (40:42) May I ask a question?

Jamie (40:44) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (40:45) Did you consider just smoking a cigarette every day?

Jamie (40:48) No. (40:48) Because the cigarettes have so much extra stuff put in them. (40:51) Mhmm. (40:52) It really I I used to smoke when I was younger, and I don't anymore. (40:56) And I remember how crappy they made me feel.

Scott Benner (40:58) I don't want you

Jamie (40:58) to cigarette is, like, one mill like, milligram of nicotine. (41:03) So Oh. (41:03) A seven milligram patch is like smoking seven cigarettes in a day.

Scott Benner (41:07) No kidding.

Jamie (41:07) And I'm not getting all the extra chemicals.

Scott Benner (41:10) How many milligrams of nicotine

Jamie (41:15) Is in a cigarette? (41:16) A cigarette. (41:17) I'm pretty sure it's one milligram.

Scott Benner (41:18) Heard a guy the other day say, if you're gonna be successful, you need one computer that you work on and one computer that's just for your AI model. (41:26) I don't know if that's true or not. (41:27) A typical cigarette contains about eighty to twenty milligrams of nicotine depending on the brand and type. (41:32) However, your body can only absorb around one to two milligrams of nicotine per cigarette when you smoke it. (41:38) What about about those pouches I see hipsters using?

Scott Benner (41:47) Sorry, hipsters.

Jamie (41:48) I have a bunch of friends who use those pouches. (41:50) I'm totally telling them you should call them hipsters.

Scott Benner (41:53) What do you think they're hipsters?

Jamie (41:54) At least one is.

Scott Benner (41:55) Yeah. (41:56) Uh-huh. (41:56) Okay. (41:56) Nicotine contains in a pouch two to twelve milligrams nicotine per pouch depending on the brand and the strength. (42:01) Common sizes, three milligrams, six milligrams, eight milligrams absorption.

Scott Benner (42:04) A six milligram pouch delivers roughly the same nicotine as smoking half to a full cigarette depending on the person. (42:10) So these patches are really the way to go if you wanna do this.

Jamie (42:13) Yeah. (42:14) Yeah. (42:14) Plus, I feel like you can move the patch around to different places. (42:17) You're supposed to wear them in between your, like, your groin area and your neck, either on your arms or your torso. (42:25) And I feel like you can move them around.

Jamie (42:27) Like, you're not supposed to put them in the same spot every day.

Scott Benner (42:29) Yeah.

Jamie (42:29) And so you can move them around, and you're not, like, repeatedly damaging your skin or your mouth or your lungs by using a cigarette or a pouch.

Scott Benner (42:39) Yeah.

Jamie (42:39) Plus, think about all the extra chemicals they put in those pouches. (42:42) There's flavoring. (42:43) There's stuff that they're using to, like, preserve it. (42:47) And it just

Scott Benner (42:48) I wanna say I wouldn't I wouldn't do it. (42:50) I was just asking the question.

Jamie (42:51) Yeah. (42:51) I wouldn't I wouldn't do it.

Scott Benner (42:53) I'm not gonna dig deeper because now I'm wondering, do cigarette smokers suffer less long COVID symptoms?

Jamie (43:00) Right? (43:01) How did they figure this out?

Scott Benner (43:03) Had to

Jamie (43:03) be I have no idea.

Scott Benner (43:04) There's It just Long COVID.

Jamie (43:07) A friend of mine who does all kinds of research was like, you need to try this, and he just kept after me about it. (43:12) And then my chiropractor started to numb me about it too. (43:15) And I was like, okay. (43:16) Fine. (43:16) I will let me do some research, and then this is what I picked.

Jamie (43:20) And here I am.

Scott Benner (43:22) Oh, it says here multiple studies have found that smokers or users of tobacco and e cigarettes were more likely to have severe COVID requiring mechanical ventilation. (43:31) I don't know if any of this is right or not. (43:32) Like, I I don't know how to figure out any of them. (43:34) This is just Yeah.

Jamie (43:35) But that's, like, while they're sick with COVID, but what about long COVID?

Scott Benner (43:38) That's what I'm asking too. (43:39) Like, say I didn't get sick with COVID, like, in a way that I was, like, laid up, but I got long COVID. (43:44) Is the cigarettes I'm so listen. (43:47) I'm gonna tell you something right now. (43:48) Nicotine is used pretty widely for a number of things.

Scott Benner (43:51) It is obviously something you can get addicted to and you shouldn't, you know, trifle with. (43:57) And I'm certainly not saying anybody should do it, but I am also saying that if you're suffering from long COVID and you're in any kind of situation like I see my poor wife in, anything might be worth a try at some point or another.

Jamie (44:09) Yeah. (44:09) So And that's where I was too. (44:11) I was like, it's $20 for a box a box of twenty one milligram pouches. (44:15) Like, what am I out? (44:16) $20.

Jamie (44:17) Okay. (44:18) Boohoo. (44:19) Either it works or it doesn't work.

Scott Benner (44:20) Yeah. (44:21) You're not gonna grow a third arm in twenty one days or anything like that.

Jamie (44:24) Right. (44:24) Yeah. (44:25) And I did notice almost I mean, like I said, the nerve pain was reduced a lot, almost almost right away. (44:32) I think I noticed the second or third day I was on the patch that I didn't have nerve pain like I did before. (44:40) And I had tried gabapentin too for the long COVID, and I was on a pretty high dose of gabapentin.

Jamie (44:45) And it just Wait.

Scott Benner (44:46) What's gabapentin?

Jamie (44:47) It's a prescription drug. (44:49) It's almost on the same wavelength of, like, a narcotic. (44:53) It's not a schedule three, though. (44:54) They use it it blocks the pain receptors in your brain, and that's really all I know about it. (45:00) But I was taking it three times a day, so it's easy to forget and miss a dose.

Jamie (45:05) Yeah. (45:05) And there's a lot of studies that talk about, like, if you suddenly quit gabapentin or if if you reduce your stuff or if you reduce it too quickly, you can do damage to your heart. (45:17) Oh. (45:17) And I'm like, well, that's not a side effect I want. (45:21) And I was only on the gabapentin for about a year.

Jamie (45:23) I was still having migraines quite a bit. (45:26) I was still having nerve pain quite a bit. (45:28) Mhmm. (45:28) I still have brain fog where, like, I couldn't pick up a book and read it and absorb it. (45:33) I'd have to sit and read it and read it and read it over and over and over.

Jamie (45:37) And that was the hardest part for me. (45:39) It's because I love learning. (45:42) I'm constantly trying to learn new things, and I couldn't absorb things I was trying to learn Okay. (45:47) With the long COVID, and it made me so frustrated. (45:51) So, yeah, they had me on the gabapentin, and then I had it's like I had to get another prescription for Imitrex and, like, all this stuff and

Scott Benner (45:58) It's a lot. (45:58) Was it helping any of that?

Jamie (46:00) The gabapentin did help. (46:02) Like, the brain fog eased a little bit, but it wasn't gone by any means. (46:06) Okay. (46:08) The migraines and the nerve pain were still there.

Scott Benner (46:10) Tell me again. (46:11) In the last twenty one days, you think your brain fog has lifted?

Jamie (46:14) My brain fog is is like yeah. (46:17) It's not I think I still have rough days, but, like, I can pick up a book and read it and not have to reread it.

Scott Benner (46:26) Okay. (46:26) Do you feel better rested, or is there anything else that's going on for you that's valuable, or just that as your takeaway so far?

Jamie (46:33) I sleep better.

Scott Benner (46:35) Sleep better.

Jamie (46:35) I don't know. (46:36) Yeah. (46:36) I'm sleeping better. (46:37) So in the last twenty one days, I am for sure sleeping better because I'm not waking up with nerve pain, and I'm not waking up with the migraine every night.

Scott Benner (46:44) Yeah. (46:45) Okay.

Jamie (46:46) Alright. (46:46) So I do I still get the migraine? (46:48) Yes. (46:48) I just had a migraine. (46:50) Like, I think it's been a week and a half for my last migraine, which is really actually really good.

Jamie (46:54) It doesn't sound like much, but considering I was getting them almost daily

Scott Benner (47:00) It's good for you.

Jamie (47:01) Yeah. (47:02) So I'm I'm really hopeful that, like, this is going forward is gonna be because it's been three years

Scott Benner (47:09) Yeah. (47:09) Since It's hard. (47:11) And yeah. (47:12) Anybody else who has any experience with this, I'd love to have you on the podcast talk about it too. (47:17) So alright.

Scott Benner (47:19) I'm gonna let you go, Jamie, because we've been talking way too long. (47:22) This is a two part episode now.

Jamie (47:24) And Oh, okay.

Scott Benner (47:25) Poor Robert has now been editing for, like, a month and a half to get through this episode.

Jamie (47:30) Fair. (47:30) Yeah. (47:30) Well and then just so you know, my bread maker is done. (47:33) I heard it beeping.

Scott Benner (47:34) You started talking about that before we started recording, but you said you were making you were making bread because of me. (47:38) I hope it's good.

Jamie (47:39) You always talk about bread and how you would make bread for Arden. (47:43) And I was like, I really wanna learn how to bake bread. (47:45) So I found a bread maker, and this is my first loaf. (47:48) So we'll see how it goes. (47:49) I'll send you an email.

Scott Benner (47:50) Well, if it's done, go get it out because you don't want it to start sweating and then get moist. (47:53) Okay?

Jamie (47:54) Okay.

Scott Benner (47:55) Yeah. (47:55) Once they're done cooking, you wanna get them out and put them on a cooling rack. (47:58) Don't let them lay flat. (47:59) Right? (47:59) Because they'll get wet underneath.

Scott Benner (48:01) You have a cooling rack?

Jamie (48:01) I do. (48:02) We have several.

Scott Benner (48:03) Throw it up on a cooling rack. (48:04) And if it's not a tall cooling rack, I might even put a couple paper towels under the cooling rack to catch the moisture, pull it out. (48:11) Keeps keeps the loaf nice and nice and tight.

Jamie (48:13) Good to know.

Scott Benner (48:14) You were really awesome. (48:15) I appreciate you sharing all this with me. (48:16) Thank you.

Jamie (48:17) Yeah. (48:17) Thanks for taking the time to talk to me, and and, you know, I hope Kelly gets gets better because it's rough being sick with long COVID.

Scott Benner (48:25) Yeah. (48:25) No. (48:25) I really appreciate that. (48:26) And she said kids were like I'm not gonna say this on here. (48:33) The kids at some point were like, mom, like, think if you die, like, like, I don't think dad will have any trouble dating.

Scott Benner (48:38) And she's like, what?

Jamie (48:39) Oh, no.

Scott Benner (48:40) One of the kids goes Like, one of those diabetes ladies will go out with him. (48:44) And Arden's like, yeah. (48:45) One of those ladies listening would love dad to take care of their kid. (48:49) Would have nothing to do with me. (48:51) They were like, yeah.

Scott Benner (48:52) They'd probably, like, you know, be able to use him for, like, a good I was like, why is this how I'm being spoken about? (48:58) And I was like, and I'm not going out with somebody. (49:00) Can you imagine if I dated somebody listening to the podcast after my wife passed away? (49:03) I would look like a terrible person.

Jamie (49:06) No? (49:06) That would that would be yeah.

Scott Benner (49:08) Yeah. (49:08) That

Jamie (49:08) She's not gonna die for long COVID, though. (49:10) She'll get better.

Scott Benner (49:11) I also don't think she's gonna die. (49:12) I'm just saying, like, the, you know, the kids have, like, a funny sense of humor, and this was it.

Jamie (49:16) I did have a question Go ahead. (49:18) About Arden's lows.

Scott Benner (49:19) Go ahead.

Jamie (49:20) Was she when she, like, came back up from the low, was she exhausted for a couple of days?

Scott Benner (49:25) It kicked her ass for a while, actually.

Jamie (49:28) Okay.

Scott Benner (49:28) Yeah.

Jamie (49:28) And was she, like, overly hungry for a couple of days?

Scott Benner (49:31) I don't know about that one. (49:33) I'm trying to think it's been a couple of years now.

Jamie (49:35) I don't

Scott Benner (49:36) She was scared to sleep by herself for a while.

Jamie (49:39) Oh. (49:39) Yeah. (49:39) I can understand that.

Scott Benner (49:41) Yeah. (49:41) Yeah.

Jamie (49:41) No. (49:42) I it took me a good three or four days at least to feel awake, like like I had slept enough. (49:48) And then I could not get enough carbs into my body.

Scott Benner (49:51) I've heard other people talk about what you're saying, so it's not the first time someone said

Jamie (49:55) it to me. (49:56) Okay.

Scott Benner (49:56) Arden didn't have that specific.

Jamie (49:58) I was just wondering if I was weird.

Scott Benner (49:59) Yeah. (50:00) No. (50:00) I don't think so. (50:01) I don't think you're weird.

Jamie (50:01) Okay.

Scott Benner (50:02) Also, Arden's yelling she's hungry all the time. (50:04) So

Jamie (50:05) I mean, I'm old and I'm hungry all the time.

Scott Benner (50:08) Will you promise me that tonight you you'll eat dinner at the kitchen table and it'll be something hot?

Jamie (50:12) Oh, we're going to my mom's house tonight for dinner. (50:14) So

Scott Benner (50:15) You got some lady to cook for you. (50:16) Okay. (50:16) That's smart. (50:17) Okay.

Jamie (50:17) Yeah. (50:17) We gotta go make we gotta fix her toilet.

Scott Benner (50:20) You're gonna swap a toilet fix for a dinner?

Jamie (50:22) Oh, all the time. (50:23) Yeah. (50:23) We go over my mom's house and do stuff for her and she's like, oh, I'll make you guys some food. (50:26) What do you wanna eat for dinner?

Scott Benner (50:27) Nice. (50:28) It's a good idea. (50:29) Yeah. (50:29) I'll keep that in mind for later in my life. (50:31) Thank you.

Jamie (50:33) It's my mom's idea.

Scott Benner (50:34) Oh, Jamie, hold on for a second. (50:35) This was awesome. (50:36) Thank you.

Jamie (50:37) Yeah.

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Scott Benner (0:0) As the holidays approach, I wanna say welcome and thank all of my good friends for coming back to the Juice Box podcast over and over again.

Jamie (0:19) Well, I am Jamie. (0:21) I am a type one diabetic. (0:23) I was diagnosed as LADA when I was, I think, 36. (0:27) And so it's been about eight years now. (0:30) Told everyone my age pretty much, and that's me.

Scott Benner (0:36) Hey. (0:36) I'm dropping in to tell you about a small change being made to the Juice Cruise twenty twenty six schedule. (0:41) This adjustment was made by Celebrity Cruise Lines, not by me. (0:45) Anyway, we're still going out on the Celebrity Beyond cruise ship, which is awesome. (0:49) Check out the walkthrough video at juiceboxpodcast.com/juicecruise.

Scott Benner (0:54) The ship is awesome. (0:55) Still a seven night cruise. (0:57) It still leaves out of Miami on June 21. (1:00) Actually, most of this is the same. (1:02) We leave Miami June 21, head to Coco Cay in The Bahamas, but then we're going to San Juan, Puerto Rico instead of Saint Thomas.

Scott Benner (1:10) After that, Bastille, I think I'm saying that wrong, Saint Kitts And Nevis. (1:14) This place is gorgeous. (1:15) Google it. (1:16) I mean, you're probably gonna have to go to my link to get the correct spelling because my pronunciation is so bad. (1:20) But once you get the Saint Kitts and you Google it, you're gonna look and see a photo that says to you, oh, I wanna go there.

Scott Benner (1:27) Come meet other people living with type one diabetes from caregivers to children to adults. (1:33) Last year, we had a 100 people on our cruise, and it was fabulous. (1:39) You can see pictures to get at my link juiceboxpodcast.com/juicecruise. (1:44) You can see those pictures from last year there. (1:46) The link also gives you an opportunity to register for the cruise or to contact Suzanne from Cruise Planners.

Scott Benner (1:52) She takes care of all the logistics. (1:54) I'm just excited that I might see you there. (1:56) It's a beautiful event for families, for singles, a wonderful opportunity to meet people, swap stories, make friendships, and learn. (2:06) While you're listening, please remember that nothing you hear on the Juice Box podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. (2:14) Always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan or becoming bold with insulin.

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Jamie (3:31) Well, I am Jamie. (3:33) I am a type one diabetic. (3:35) I was diagnosed as LADA when I was, I think, 36. (3:39) And so it's been about eight years now. (3:42) Told everyone my age pretty much, and that's me.

Scott Benner (3:47) Jamie, I'm just looking at your notes, and I realized why you're on, and this is gonna be interesting.

Jamie (3:53) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (3:53) Oh, okay. (3:54) So you got to the podcast by way of a Facebook post. (3:57) Can you tell people what you posted about?

Jamie (4:01) Yep. (4:01) My low. (4:02) I had my first severe low ever. (4:05) It was in August where my I I think my Dexcom wasn't quite accurate, and I had probably I hadn't been feeling that well that day. (4:14) Mhmm.

Jamie (4:15) So my stomach was upset, and I had taken insulin for dinner, and I did not eat enough carbs.

Scott Benner (4:22) Okay.

Jamie (4:23) And then I realized my alarm went off, and I was 67, double arrowed down.

Scott Benner (4:28) How long after you bolus do you think that that number existed?

Jamie (4:33) Well, I looked at it with my endo, and it was, like, half an hour.

Scott Benner (4:38) And you had eaten, but just not as much as you anticipated?

Jamie (4:41) Yeah. (4:41) I that's the only only explanation that I can come up with.

Scott Benner (4:45) Okay. (4:46) So give me context. (4:48) How many carbs did you bolus for?

Jamie (4:50) 55. (4:51) I had some Cheerios.

Scott Benner (4:52) My brain goes Cheeriodios when I hear that. (4:55) I don't Is that, like, an old commercial that they don't make anymore?

Jamie (4:57) I'm not sure.

Scott Benner (4:58) Yeah. (4:58) Trust me. (4:59) If I can think of it, it's old and you don't know what it is. (5:02) So 55 carbs for Cheerios, which should definitely, you know, be reasonable. (5:08) And Mhmm.

Scott Benner (5:09) But you didn't eat them all.

Jamie (5:11) I must not have because I didn't measure it. (5:14) I don't measure anymore. (5:16) I just look at food and say, okay. (5:18) This is about what it is, and that's what I put in the pump.

Scott Benner (5:20) Would you tell me do you think that you've had that amount of Cheerios about before and used 55 carbs? (5:27) Yeah. (5:28) Could it have been the illness? (5:29) Did you have a stomach illness?

Jamie (5:30) Yeah. (5:31) My stomach was upset. (5:32) It could have very easily been that, but nobody really knows. (5:36) Yeah. (5:36) And the endocrinologist looked at it and was like, I have no idea what happened.

Scott Benner (5:41) Right. (5:41) There's some illnesses Arden gets where her insulin needs go way down.

Jamie (5:45) Really?

Scott Benner (5:46) And I've I've also seen illnesses that have put her her insulin needs up, but I I've seen both. (5:52) So I wonder but rest of the day, you were okay, though. (5:55) Right? (5:55) You were eating and bolusing previous to that. (5:57) It was okay.

Jamie (5:58) Yeah. (5:58) Yeah. (5:59) I don't remember what else I ate that day, but I'm pretty sedentary for work. (6:03) I sit at a computer all day long pretty much. (6:06) So, you know, there's not a whole lot of movement.

Jamie (6:08) Logged out of work, decided I want some dinner, and ate some dinner, quick cleaned up a couple things around the house, and then sat down to change my pump. (6:16) And while I was changing my pump, my alarm went off, and I was like, oh, shit.

Scott Benner (6:20) Yeah. (6:21) That's weird.

Jamie (6:22) Yeah. (6:22) And I'm I, like, pretty much fell over.

Scott Benner (6:25) Wait. (6:26) Wait. (6:26) Hold on. (6:26) We'll get that. (6:27) But let me but first, have no business saying this, and, of course, I'm not judging you.

Scott Benner (6:31) But, this is maybe to everybody listening, not just to you. (6:34) I'd love it if you guys didn't eat cereal for dinner. (6:36) Are you eating are you an adult that eats cereal for dinner? (6:39) Why did you not make yourself a piece of chicken and a and a broccoli and something to go with it? (6:43) What what happened there?

Jamie (6:44) I mean, I was home alone. (6:45) My my husband was working late, and I was like, I don't feel like eating real food today. (6:51) My stomach had been upset. (6:52) Cheerios sounded good, so that's what I had. (6:54) Alright.

Scott Benner (6:55) Do you sugar the Cheerios? (6:57) Nope. (6:58) Yeah. (6:58) I'm such a I grew up so poorly. (7:01) I would definitely have sprinkled sugar over top of Cheerios when I was a kid.

Jamie (7:05) I don't even add milk to them usually. (7:07) I eat them dry right from the box. (7:09) I mean

Scott Benner (7:10) Was there milk in it this time? (7:12) No. (7:13) No. (7:13) You're just eating a handful of Cheerios like a homeless person. (7:17) Is that what you're telling me?

Jamie (7:18) Yeah. (7:19) Yes. (7:19) Much. (7:20) Yep.

Scott Benner (7:21) Sitting in your house just being like, ugh, long day. (7:25) Handful of Cheerios. (7:27) My god.

Jamie (7:28) I was actually sitting on my bed eating a handful of Cheerios straight from the box.

Scott Benner (7:32) I don't want you people eating in your bedrooms either. (7:34) Don't eat in your bedroom. (7:35) That's not okay. (7:36) Do I have to make a list for everybody?

Jamie (7:38) Maybe. (7:39) Alright. (7:39) Maybe. (7:39) Yep.

Scott Benner (7:40) So okay.

Jamie (7:41) Might be good.

Scott Benner (7:42) Yeah. (7:43) Don't eat I don't want you eating on your bed. (7:45) Not after you're 15. (7:46) Okay?

Jamie (7:47) I mean, I was home alone. (7:50) There was nobody here. (7:52) It was it was a quiet night. (7:53) I was getting you know, I was gonna get ready to bed, go to bed early.

Scott Benner (7:57) That that that sounds nice. (7:59) Yeah. (7:59) Yeah. (7:59) Yeah. (7:59) Were you were you, like, cuddle alarm.

Scott Benner (8:01) Cuddled up in bed eating Cheerios, watching TV, or just, like, sitting on the I I need a picture of it. (8:06) Or were you just sitting sadly on the edge of the bed?

Jamie (8:08) No. (8:09) I was, like, watching a TV show. (8:11) I don't even remember what I was watching.

Scott Benner (8:12) It's okay.

Jamie (8:12) And I was just chilling with the blankets and Yeah. (8:15) The cats were here.

Scott Benner (8:17) This makes more sense. (8:18) It makes more sense to me. (8:19) Alright. (8:20) Okay. (8:20) I take it back.

Scott Benner (8:21) It's okay. (8:22) Yeah. (8:22) But you've got $67.02 down pretty quickly after you bolus. (8:27) And you said you you fell over. (8:28) Do you mean, like, physically passed out, or do you mean, like, it stunned you?

Jamie (8:32) Like, I tried to stand up because my backseemia was in my purse. (8:36) Oh. (8:37) On the other side of the house. (8:39) And I'm like, I need my Baqsimi. (8:41) You know?

Jamie (8:41) And I wasn't was changing my pump, I had already taken my my pod off. (8:45) Mhmm. (8:46) Didn't occur to me at the time. (8:48) I kept my Baqsimi and my kit, and the kit was on the bed with me.

Scott Benner (8:53) Oh, were you already disoriented?

Jamie (8:55) I was already disoriented. (8:57) I stood up. (8:58) I fell over. (8:59) Somehow managed to hold on to my phone. (9:02) I grab I always keep grape soda for middle of the night lows

Scott Benner (9:07) Mhmm.

Jamie (9:07) On the nightstand. (9:09) And I grabbed the three cans there, stood back up, and tried to walk towards the other end of the house again. (9:15) And I only made it halfway, and I called 911 because I was afraid that I was gonna throw up the soda because I get really nauseous when I'm low or dropping fast.

Scott Benner (9:22) Yeah. (9:22) Yeah.

Jamie (9:23) And I knew my husband wasn't gonna be home until, like, 09:30, and it was, like, 08:30. (9:27) I'm like, if he doesn't get here till 09:30, 10:00, I'm in big trouble.

Scott Benner (9:31) Uh-huh. (9:32) You had time to think about all that.

Jamie (9:33) My brain went, like, super fast. (9:35) It was really weird.

Scott Benner (9:36) Okay. (9:37) And the entire time you're walking across the house, you're walking across the house to get to the backseat me, which was on the bed where you started?

Jamie (9:44) Yep.

Scott Benner (9:44) Oh, wow. (9:45) Mhmm. (9:46) Okay.

Jamie (9:46) So Yeah.

Scott Benner (9:49) Can you describe a little bit in hindsight? (9:51) Is there a way that you can tell me that it feels? (9:55) Is it scary? (9:57) Is it does it feel like time standing still? (9:59) Like, is there any kind of, like, you know, big ideas you could put to the experience?

Jamie (10:03) My body felt really heavy, and my brain felt really adrenaline soaked. (10:09) That's, like, the two biggest things.

Scott Benner (10:12) Okay.

Jamie (10:12) And the nine one one dispatcher kept telling me that I was like, I don't even know how much insulin I have on board. (10:18) And she's like, it's okay. (10:19) They'll give you your insulin when they get there.

Scott Benner (10:22) And you're like, no, bitch. (10:24) I don't want insulin. (10:25) No insulin. (10:26) Yes.

Jamie (10:26) And I was so angry because she wasn't understanding me Mhmm. (10:30) That I didn't need insulin. (10:31) I needed sugar. (10:33) And but she kept saying, it'll be okay. (10:35) They'll get you your insulin.

Jamie (10:36) I'm like, but I don't need insulin. (10:38) You're not understanding me. (10:39) And she's like, it's okay. (10:40) They're on their way.

Scott Benner (10:41) She's like, I might not understand, but I sent somebody who hopefully will. (10:45) Now

Jamie (10:45) Right.

Scott Benner (10:45) Was your door locked? (10:47) You know what? (10:48) Let me take that back. (10:49) There's no way your door was locked. (10:50) If you're eating Cheerios on your bed, your door is not locked.

Scott Benner (10:53) Because that would be on my list, by the way, Jamie. (10:55) When I write down a list of things to do in life, it would be every time you come through a door from the exterior, lock the door.

Jamie (11:01) Yeah. (11:01) No. (11:02) I usually leave so we have Ring cameras, so it alerts me if someone's moving around outside the house. (11:07) So if I'm home alone, I typically leave the door unlocked. (11:12) Oh my god.

Jamie (11:12) And this is a prime example of why.

Scott Benner (11:15) Well well, now yeah. (11:16) Also, I've heard other type ones talk about this. (11:19) That they in the back of their head, they're always thinking if I have an emerge how is emergency services gonna get in the house if if the door is locked?

Jamie (11:26) Right? (11:26) Do you know how expensive that would have been if they had to kick my door in?

Scott Benner (11:29) Tell me that door is not locked because you were worried about the expense if something like this would have happened.

Jamie (11:34) That is the big and I was worried about the cost for having 12 firefighters and paramedics show up at my house that night too. (11:40) I was like, are they gonna send me a bill?

Scott Benner (11:42) Did they charge you by the guy?

Jamie (11:43) I have no idea. (11:44) I've not gotten a bill yet, so I don't think I'm gonna get a bill. (11:47) But, yeah, it was it was there was a lot of people in my house.

Scott Benner (11:50) Even though it's the 2025 and things seem to have settled down, let me point out that I know that women could be firemen too, and they would be fire people or fire ladies Yeah. (11:58) Or fire persons. (12:00) I don't know exactly what. (12:01) I've fought fires with women right next to me. (12:03) So I just said guy Yeah.

Scott Benner (12:06) Because that's how it occurs to me. (12:07) But, so moving oh my god. (12:09) I almost fell. (12:10) How? (12:11) I know how you felt when your blood sugar was low for a second.

Scott Benner (12:13) I

Jamie (12:15) know. (12:15) I thought about that later too. (12:16) Like, how did I my nightstand had sharp corners on it. (12:19) How did I avoid the corners of my nightstand when I went down? (12:23) I don't I have no idea.

Scott Benner (12:24) Did you have a seizure at any point? (12:26) Lose consciousness? (12:26) I

Jamie (12:28) don't know if I had a seizure. (12:30) I was not fully unconscious. (12:32) I know that. (12:33) But I was definitely uncontrollably shaking, and I thought I had peed my pants. (12:38) Oh.

Jamie (12:39) But I didn't.

Scott Benner (12:39) Oh, I was gonna say don't tell me if you did or not. (12:41) We'll find out later. (12:42) That'll be fun. (12:42) You felt like you peed your pants, but you didn't.

Jamie (12:46) I was so sweaty, and my body was,

Scott Benner (12:48) like Oh.

Jamie (12:48) Hot. (12:49) It was, like, weird hot feelings, like, all over my body.

Scott Benner (12:52) Did you get any of the numb lips, numb numb numb tongue?

Jamie (12:56) No. (12:57) I haven't had that since I was first diagnosed.

Scott Benner (13:00) Okay. (13:01) How about your vision? (13:02) Did your vision change?

Jamie (13:04) Yeah. (13:04) I couldn't it was like tunnel vision.

Scott Benner (13:06) Mhmm. (13:07) You were getting close. (13:08) So Yeah. (13:10) Did they get there? (13:11) The the the 12 women firefighters, did they show up?

Jamie (13:15) They did. (13:15) And they all just basically sat there and watched me drink a soda and made me eat a protein bar to level it out. (13:23) And then, like, they hooked me up to the life pack. (13:25) So they checked my blood pressure, which was low.

Scott Benner (13:28) Yeah.

Jamie (13:28) My heart rate was extra high. (13:31) That was about it.

Scott Benner (13:32) Gotcha.

Jamie (13:33) I think they did an EKG too because they had I had little sticky things on my ankles.

Scott Benner (13:38) You weren't even sure?

Jamie (13:39) I don't remember.

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Jamie (15:54) Against medical advice, I did chose I chose to stay home. (15:57) They wanted to take me in, and I said no because I I knew that one I would have to pay for. (16:02) But I also knew it was a low, and I could feel my blood sugar coming back up.

Scott Benner (16:06) Yeah.

Jamie (16:06) And my husband was on his way home, so they were all pulling out of the driveway as he was pulling in.

Scott Benner (16:12) Did you call him first, or was he like, why is there a fire truck at my house?

Jamie (16:16) I did. (16:16) I called him because I was afraid. (16:18) I didn't want him to worry. (16:19) And I was afraid one of the neighbors would see them all at my house and call him.

Scott Benner (16:23) Oh, yeah. (16:23) That's a good point. (16:24) Hey. (16:25) There's, five trucks in front of your home and sirens and lights and yeah. (16:29) Yeah.

Scott Benner (16:29) Okay. (16:29) That's a good idea. (16:30) Yeah. (16:31) So then it didn't take you long to come out of it. (16:34) So when you got low, you drank the grape soda.

Scott Benner (16:37) By the way, how did you say you were 12? (16:39) How old are you? (16:39) You're you're 31?

Jamie (16:40) I'm 44 now. (16:42) 44.

Scott Benner (16:43) Just eating grape soda and Cheerios in your Yep. (16:48) But so you you got the soda in. (16:50) You were afraid you might vomit up the soda. (16:53) You Yep. (16:54) Felt poorly enough that you were like, I gotta get my glucagon.

Scott Benner (16:57) So my question is is many other times in your life have you thought, hey. (17:00) Where's my glucagon? (17:01) I need it.

Jamie (17:01) Never.

Scott Benner (17:02) Never. (17:02) Okay. (17:03) So oh, that's good. (17:04) So your brain was helping you. (17:05) It was like, oh, this is a problem.

Scott Benner (17:07) I should have my glucagon.

Jamie (17:08) It was trying. (17:10) Yeah.

Scott Benner (17:10) It was try it was trying. (17:11) So you hadn't ever used it before. (17:13) You didn't use it this time. (17:14) You Nope. (17:15) Defaulted during your your traversing the house to calling 911.

Jamie (17:20) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (17:21) I mean, have you been able to look back since then? (17:23) Do you know how long it took them to get to you?

Jamie (17:25) From when I called 911 to when I see them show up on the camera outside the house, it was roughly eight minutes.

Scott Benner (17:32) Wow.

Jamie (17:33) It felt like ten years.

Scott Benner (17:34) Yeah.

Jamie (17:36) And they they go by the house here Uh-huh. (17:39) And they whoop their sirens, I know they're closed. (17:42) And then it still felt like it took them twenty years to get here.

Scott Benner (17:46) Oh, so after you could hear them, it's so everything was felt like you know, have you ever heard Ardentel? (17:52) I don't know if she's talked about it on here or if I've repeated it. (17:55) She had a pretty severe low blood sugar after her senior prom, and that she felt like she was she called it glitching or jumping. (18:04) I think she called it jumping, where she was moving across the room, but, like, she was I don't know. (18:10) Like, imagine you're in a room that's, you know, fifteen, twenty feet long, and you're 20 feet from the wall.

Scott Benner (18:15) And then the next thing you know, you're 10 feet from the wall. (18:17) And the next thing you know, you're two feet from the wall, but you don't remember any of the distance in between. (18:22) Did you did you ever have that?

Jamie (18:23) No. (18:24) No. (18:24) I didn't. (18:25) No.

Scott Benner (18:25) Yeah. (18:26) Okay.

Jamie (18:26) Because I heard them, and I was like, if they had just stopped on the busy street right outside our house and come down the hill, they would have already been here. (18:34) That's what I was thinking.

Scott Benner (18:36) That's what you were thinking if I was with them, they would have gotten here quicker.

Jamie (18:39) Yeah. (18:40) Because they and then they have to drive around the block to get in because we're, like, in a weird cubby cul de sac type thing.

Scott Benner (18:45) Yeah.

Jamie (18:46) And so it was it felt like and it was probably just a couple more minutes before they got into the door, but I was it felt like it took forever.

Scott Benner (18:56) Weird left turn, Jamie. (18:57) Does anybody ever told you have control issues?

Jamie (19:01) Me? (19:01) Control issues? (19:02) No. (19:03) Come on. (19:04) Yes.

Jamie (19:05) I I'm a control freak.

Scott Benner (19:06) You're a control freak because I have to tell you that in the middle of that situation, to have a critique of how someone else is doing their job is absolutely insane.

Jamie (19:15) I just wanted them to get there because I thought, you know, I felt like I was dying. (19:20) Like, I literally was I was like, my god. (19:23) I'm dying. (19:23) I'm never gonna survive this. (19:24) There's Like

Scott Benner (19:25) Part of me that thinks that if my wife passes before me as we're putting her body in the ground, she'll sit up and go, you're doing it wrong.

Jamie (19:34) I would probably do the same thing. (19:36) Yeah.

Scott Benner (19:36) My gosh. (19:37) Okay. (19:37) So alright. (19:38) Well, you got through it, obviously. (19:39) Now, let let's go back a second.

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Scott Benner (20:05) So one time, I didn't respond to the email. (20:08) And the phone rings at the house. (20:10) It's like, ring, you know how it works. (20:11) And I picked it up. (20:12) I was like, hello?

Scott Benner (20:13) And it was just the recording. (20:14) It was like, US med, doesn't actually sound like that, but you know what I'm saying. (20:17) It said, hey, you're, I don't remember exactly what it says, but it's basically like, hey, your order's ready. (20:22) You want us to send it? (20:23) Push this button if you want us to send it.

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Jamie (21:09) Yeah. (21:09) I think so. (21:11) Because there was no oh, and my Dexcom just decided it's not gonna give me readings.

Scott Benner (21:16) Awesome. (21:16) Fun. (21:16) Perfect timing.

Jamie (21:17) So it's hard for me to say definitively when I was diagnosed because there wasn't like, I wasn't in DKA. (21:24) I wasn't you know? (21:26) Mhmm. (21:27) It was I knew something was wrong. (21:30) My general practitioner at the time kept telling me the reason my numbers were going up was because I was noncompliant, and I wasn't exercising, and I was eating too many carbs.

Scott Benner (21:38) Okay.

Jamie (21:39) And so by the time I made it to the endo and had the antibody testing done, he threatened to put me in the hospital for an eating disorder because I refused to eat carbs.

Scott Benner (21:49) Really?

Jamie (21:49) Well What? (21:50) How? (21:51) I kept told that I was eating too many carbs and I was already basically keto, so I had dropped it down and all I was eating was protein.

Scott Benner (21:58) When he said that you were noncompliant on exercise and eating, was that actually true?

Jamie (22:03) No. (22:04) That was my general practitioner and no, it was not. (22:06) I was exercising several hours a day Wow. (22:09) And I was eating like, I was completely clean eating because I was convinced I was type two and I'm like, I'm I'm gonna fix this. (22:15) I'm gonna lose weight.

Jamie (22:16) I'm gonna be healthy. (22:17) Yeah. (22:17) This isn't gonna be an issue. (22:19) He just kept telling me I was noncompliant, but I am. (22:23) Like and I had lost I lost, like, almost a 100 pounds.

Scott Benner (22:25) Woah.

Jamie (22:26) Like, I was nothing. (22:27) I was a little stick. (22:28) I look at those pictures of me back then, and I look you can see it on me. (22:33) I look sick.

Scott Benner (22:34) Oh, let's put context to it. (22:36) How tall are you?

Jamie (22:37) I'm five foot six.

Scott Benner (22:38) Five six. (22:39) And what did you weigh when you started to lose weight?

Jamie (22:42) I was over two hundred. (22:44) I was probably closer to two twenty. (22:46) I've I've always been chunky.

Scott Benner (22:48) Chonky?

Jamie (22:50) Yeah. (22:50) Chonky. (22:51) Okay. (22:51) Chonky. (22:52) Chonky.

Scott Benner (22:52) I don't know. (22:53) Chonky was funny. (22:54) Go with that.

Jamie (22:55) Yeah. (22:55) Two twenty. (22:57) Two twenty. (22:57) I was probably closer to two fifty because I was one fifty when I went to the endo.

Scott Benner (23:01) Wow. (23:02) And you lost a 100 pounds. (23:04) Yeah. (23:04) Just through diet and exercise. (23:05) Or was it exercise and not really eating much?

Jamie (23:09) Exercise and not eating much. (23:10) And then on top of that, my body wasn't making much insulin. (23:14) So my body was just

Scott Benner (23:16) Yeah.

Jamie (23:16) Not metabolizing any of the food I was eating.

Scott Benner (23:19) What was your a one c during that time? (23:21) Do you know? (23:21) Do you remember?

Jamie (23:22) I think I managed to get it down to eight or nine.

Scott Benner (23:25) Okay. (23:26) And you have down from where?

Jamie (23:30) When I first went in, it was 13.

Scott Benner (23:34) Okay. (23:34) 13 down to eight or nine with the exercise, the not eating. (23:37) But then the next doctor, it's not your GP, it's a different doctor who says you have an eating disorder. (23:42) Is that right?

Jamie (23:43) Yeah. (23:43) He was like, you need to eat carbs. (23:45) You at least need to be eating vegetables and fruit every day.

Scott Benner (23:48) And you said if I do that, my a one c is gonna be 13 again.

Jamie (23:50) And I said if I do that, my blood sugar's out of control.

Scott Benner (23:53) Okay. (23:54) And they called that an eating disorder?

Jamie (23:57) Yeah. (23:57) Because I was, like, I was mad at him. (23:59) He was, like, you need to eat. (24:00) You cannot this is not a healthy diet to just eat meat. (24:03) He goes, I am okay with you eating keto.

Jamie (24:06) He said, but you also need to eat the fruits and the vegetables, and you need to have those carbs. (24:10) Those are healthy carbs. (24:11) And I was, but I can't because then my blood sugar goes way out of control.

Scott Benner (24:15) What was the answer to that? (24:17) Do you recall?

Jamie (24:18) Basically, they put me on insulin almost right away Insulin. (24:21) At the endo. (24:22) Okay. (24:22) Yeah. (24:22) They put me on the insulin.

Jamie (24:24) I started with long acting, and I was still checking my blood sugar multiple times a day. (24:30) And he when I went back to him and I was like, okay. (24:33) I'm still experiencing a lot of, like, high blood sugars. (24:36) I'm really struggling. (24:38) And he was like, well, we can put you back on we can put you on short of the slow or fast acting, and that can help with after meals.

Jamie (24:46) He's like, but you're gonna really have to be careful because you're still he thought I still had some insulin response in my body. (24:54) Mhmm. (24:54) And so I did have to be really careful and watch it and make sure I wasn't going low. (24:58) And but yeah. (25:00) So they started me on insulin almost right away when I went to the endocrinologist.

Scott Benner (25:04) Did you get a c peptide and, an antibody test at some point?

Jamie (25:08) Yep. (25:09) When I was at the endo, that was the they did that the first day I was there.

Scott Benner (25:12) Okay. (25:12) And you definitely have type one?

Jamie (25:14) Yep. (25:15) Okay. (25:15) I am positive for all three antibodies.

Scott Benner (25:17) Positive for three antibodies. (25:19) Back then, that's eight years ago now. (25:21) And so have your insulin needs slowly increased? (25:24) Did they increase slowly then all at once and they're done? (25:27) Are they still changing?

Scott Benner (25:28) Where are you at in that pattern?

Jamie (25:30) They increased relatively slowly. (25:33) Mhmm. (25:34) But I will say that when I had so I've also got anaphylactic allergies, and I had an exposure that sent me to the emergency room.

Scott Benner (25:41) I'm sorry. (25:42) Give me some description about that anaphylactic allergies.

Jamie (25:45) So I'm super allergic to fish and shellfish, and somebody walked up to me with lobster, steaming lobster, which aerosolizes the protein, and I inhaled. (25:57) Wow. (25:58) And I ended up going to the emergency room. (26:00) And after that, my insulin needs shot up, and it stayed where they were at.

Scott Benner (26:06) Mhmm. (26:07) Probably doesn't matter to anybody but me. (26:08) But why was somebody wandering around with a lobster, and didn't they know that you had a a shellfish allergy?

Jamie (26:14) They did.

Scott Benner (26:16) Was this an attack? (26:17) Were you attacked with a lobster?

Jamie (26:19) No. (26:20) But wouldn't that be funny? (26:21) Could you imagine being attacked with a lobster and then dying because it like, that would be an interesting way to go. (26:27) That's morbid.

Scott Benner (26:27) I'm saying right now, I could murder you with a lobster and get away with it. (26:32) Not now that I know, but if I pretended I didn't know I could.

Jamie (26:35) Yeah. (26:36) Yeah. (26:36) You could.

Scott Benner (26:37) How quickly could it hurt you?

Jamie (26:39) I usually know pretty quickly when I've been exposed.

Scott Benner (26:42) Mhmm.

Jamie (26:42) It starts with my eyes being itchy, and then my nose and my mouth and my throat get itchy. (26:48) And then in this particular instance, it would have been my first time using the EpiPen, and so I really I was afraid to use the EpiPen.

Scott Benner (26:56) Mhmm.

Jamie (26:57) And my chest got like, it was itchy inside. (27:00) Like, my lungs itched. (27:01) I don't know how to describe that to somebody who has never experienced it other than it itched in my lungs and, like, under my sternum. (27:09) And it was really hard to breathe. (27:11) I kept having to, like, cough.

Scott Benner (27:13) What happened? (27:14) How did you how did you traverse it?

Jamie (27:15) I actually I didn't even call 911. (27:18) My mom came and picked me up from work.

Scott Benner (27:20) Were you working at the at the Red Lobster?

Jamie (27:22) No. (27:23) No. (27:24) I was not.

Scott Benner (27:25) Because you shouldn't have a job there. (27:26) That's what I was gonna tell you.

Jamie (27:27) Oh, right. (27:28) I should never work there. (27:29) I don't even go into Red Lobster. (27:30) They're tear it terrifies me. (27:32) I'd never survive.

Scott Benner (27:33) Red Lobster is terrifying. (27:35) I hear what you're saying.

Jamie (27:37) And not just because I'm allergic to fish and shellfish. (27:40) It might be

Scott Benner (27:40) for other reasons. (27:41) Can you tell me where you are?

Jamie (27:43) I'm in Minnesota.

Scott Benner (27:44) No. (27:45) No. (27:45) When when the lobster attack happened.

Jamie (27:47) Oh, I was at work.

Scott Benner (27:48) Yeah. (27:49) But what kind of like, I don't need to know the name of the place, but, like, what kind of work? (27:52) Like, at your office job?

Jamie (27:53) Retail loss prevention?

Scott Benner (27:54) Retail loss prevention? (27:57) Mhmm. (27:57) Who's eating that well in a retail loss prevention situation having a lobster? (28:01) Well, that to me is the whole

Jamie (28:03) higher end it's a higher end retailer. (28:05) Yeah.

Scott Benner (28:06) That's the whole story to me. (28:07) I could do a whole hour on where that lobster came from, how we ended up in this situation. (28:11) Who thought having lobster at lunch today at that place was a good idea?

Jamie (28:15) People did it all the time. (28:16) I would walk into the break room and somebody had microwaved fish, and I would be in like, an anaphylactic, like, that I didn't realize because the allergies were still new

Scott Benner (28:26) Uh-huh.

Jamie (28:27) To me as well. (28:28) And so I'd walk in, and my eyes would swell shut, and I'd be, like, coughing. (28:32) I had no idea I was in anaphylactic shock.

Scott Benner (28:35) I'm not laughing at you, by the way. (28:36) I'm just I'm laughing at the idea of people microwaving their fish at work. (28:40) Again, on my list of things I gotta make for your people, you can't do that.

Jamie (28:43) Who does that?

Scott Benner (28:44) Yeah. (28:45) You should've seen the guy. (28:46) If you're listening, sir, shame on you. (28:48) The guy on my flight I was on a flight to Orlando to go to Touch by Type one a couple weekends ago. (28:54) And, like, three rows ahead of me across the aisle on the aisle is a guy just barefoot on the airplane.

Scott Benner (29:02) Just Ew. (29:03) Vile. (29:04) And I've heard from people who do it, and they're like, it's not a big deal. (29:07) I'm like, that's fair. (29:08) You can have your thoughts on that.

Scott Benner (29:10) The rug is not the color that God intended it to be, and that's from dirt. (29:14) Okay? (29:14) There he is with the the thing, then he gotta go to the bathroom, goes to the bathroom without his shoes on. (29:20) That freaked me out. (29:21) Comes back, starts digging in the overhead.

Scott Benner (29:24) By the way, while the while the while the, the stewardess is on the microphone and and she's this is what she's saying. (29:31) I wanna remind everybody that the captain has not turned off the fasten seat belt sign. (29:35) We we're still in our ascent. (29:37) It's not timed. (29:38) You can't get out of your she was, like, confused.

Scott Benner (29:40) Like, she's like, you can't get out of your seats right now. (29:42) He had gotten up, peed without his shoes on, was digging in the overhead compartment, all while we were, like, still climbing. (29:50) And it was not a for any of like, well, might have really had to be trust me. (29:53) This was just a guy on his own journey. (29:56) Okay?

Scott Benner (29:56) And so then he's then he he fishes out some big, like, plastic bag, like, you'd get for takeout where I can see inside of it one of those Styrofoam shell like containers. (30:09) And he pulls it down. (30:10) There's steam still coming out of it. (30:12) It smells the high heaven terrible. (30:13) I don't know what it was.

Scott Benner (30:14) God. (30:15) And then he sits down on his feet. (30:18) Like, do you know how you can sit on your feet, like, underneath of So then he sat on his feet and settled in and cracked that thing open and started eating with a plastic fork. (30:26) And I was just like, am I gonna have to make a book so that people know not to do it? (30:31) Like, what are we gonna do exactly?

Scott Benner (30:32) And then I hear you're eating in your bedroom, but on the I I think I need to make a book. (30:37) The point is he scarfed that down. (30:40) Yikes. (30:40) And the whole time, on his right, in the middle section, a woman. (30:45) And I think, oh god.

Scott Benner (30:46) Like, her you know, this guy's poor wife. (30:47) Like, I guess she's used to it. (30:49) You know? (30:49) And then it's, an hour later when I realized that is not his wife. (30:52) She he does not know that woman.

Scott Benner (30:54) And she's horrified the entire flight. (30:57) His wife is actually across the aisle from him, and I thought, well, there's a lady who's flown with him before and thought, no. (31:02) No. (31:02) I'll sit on the other side of

Jamie (31:03) the aisle. (31:04) Sit on the other side of the aisle from him.

Scott Benner (31:06) Yeah. (31:06) You know, he looks like the kids, and he makes a decent living. (31:09) So I'm not getting rid of him, but I'm not sitting next to him on a plane. (31:13) But horrifying. (31:13) Anyway, please don't open hot food on an airplane and start eating it.

Jamie (31:18) Especially if it's fish or shellfish, because what if somebody's deathly allergic?

Scott Benner (31:22) Well, yeah. (31:22) I mean, because yeah. (31:23) It could've killed you for sure. (31:25) And, if it was the wrong thing I'm making my points here. (31:28) I'm making a lot of sense today.

Scott Benner (31:29) I want everybody to listen to me. (31:31) Okay. (31:31) Now, do you think by the way, ten minutes ago, I asked you about your lata. (31:35) I asked so that I could ask this question.

Jamie (31:38) Okay.

Scott Benner (31:38) Do you think on the day you got low, there was any help coming from your pancreas, or do you think you're long past that now?

Jamie (31:44) I think if there was help coming from my pancreas, it would have been, like, a random weird coincidence.

Scott Benner (31:51) Okay.

Jamie (31:51) And I don't really believe in coincidences.

Scott Benner (31:54) Just to get some of that. (31:55) Right. (31:56) Listen. (31:56) For those of you who don't make a podcast, you have to be impressed. (31:59) I'm telling you to be impressed, that I took that one question in my head and turned it into ten solid minutes of content.

Scott Benner (32:05) You're welcome.

Jamie (32:08) That is pretty impressive. (32:09) Yeah.

Scott Benner (32:09) Thank you. (32:10) It's my only skill, Jimmy. (32:11) Now when your husband gets home skills. (32:15) You're you're being very nice. (32:16) Actually, you know, somebody said to me the other day, you have to stop making fun of yourself on the podcast.

Scott Benner (32:19) It makes me upset.

Jamie (32:21) Aw.

Scott Benner (32:22) Yeah. (32:22) So for you it's just it's it's it's a self effacing humor. (32:26) Don't worry. (32:26) I'm good. (32:27) I I'm I'm okay.

Scott Benner (32:29) I think I must have said to somebody. (32:30) I'm like, I'm not that smart. (32:31) And people are like, you are smart. (32:33) I'm like, oh my gosh. (32:33) What are you?

Scott Benner (32:34) My my preschool teacher? (32:35) Thank you. (32:35) It's lovely. (32:36) But I'm okay. (32:37) So your husband gets home, you catch him up, and then, I mean, is there anything else from there?

Scott Benner (32:43) Do you talk about it? (32:44) Are you shook? (32:45) Like, what's the rest of the night look like?

Jamie (32:47) He was upset. (32:48) He tried to hide it, I think, because, like, the next several days, he definitely paid way more attention to my Dexcom.

Scott Benner (32:55) Mhmm.

Jamie (32:56) I ended up changing my alarm settings a little bit so that I get an alert if I'm double arrowed down before I'm at 67.

Scott Benner (33:03) You got it freaked out too.

Jamie (33:05) Yeah. (33:06) Yeah. (33:06) Because I I feel like there should have been some warning.

Scott Benner (33:11) Does double arrows not beep no matter where it is?

Jamie (33:15) If you have that alarm off, it will not tell you. (33:17) And I had shut it off because I'm on Omnipod five.

Scott Benner (33:20) Jamie. (33:21) Jamie. (33:21) Jamie. (33:22) Jamie. (33:22) Jamie.

Scott Benner (33:22) Jamie. (33:23) Jamie. (33:24) What? (33:24) Listen. (33:25) Let's put this whole interview aside, and you just start telling me everything you're doing, and I'll tell you if it's right or not.

Scott Benner (33:30) Okay? (33:30) How's that sound? (33:31) Let's do Alright. (33:33) Everyone, leave your alarms on. (33:34) I don't care if they bother you.

Scott Benner (33:36) That's what they're there for. (33:38) Oh, so you had your alarms off.

Jamie (33:40) Yeah. (33:41) I had so the low alarm was set for seventy five, but I didn't have, like, the drop alerts on.

Scott Benner (33:47) Right.

Jamie (33:47) So I have the drop alerts on now. (33:49) And then the other thing that we did, there was a lady on Facebook who suggested taping the vaccinee in the bathrooms, like, to the mirror.

Scott Benner (33:59) Okay. (34:00) I mean, that's not a not a style decision, but go ahead.

Jamie (34:04) No. (34:04) But what a smart idea because now it's right in my face every day. (34:10) We have a vaccine in the bathroom upstairs, which is our main bathroom. (34:13) And then I also have one taped to the basement garage door Okay. (34:17) So that there's one downstairs too.

Jamie (34:19) So we have that going. (34:21) So it's, like, right in everybody's space. (34:23) Everybody knows what it is, and it's not likely I'm gonna forget it's there because I see it every day.

Scott Benner (34:29) Right. (34:30) Did you have a conversation with your husband like, hey. (34:33) I'm sure you knew about this before, but let's do a refresher on this backseemi and everything else?

Jamie (34:38) Yeah. (34:39) Yeah. (34:39) Yep.

Scott Benner (34:40) How long do you think he was scared for? (34:42) And did you hate it when he was paying more attention in the days that followed, or was it comforting?

Jamie (34:47) I didn't hate it. (34:49) It just was different. (34:51) It's not a normal he doesn't normally pay any attention to my duckscom. (34:56) I usually handle everything on my own. (34:58) Mhmm.

Jamie (34:59) My mom is the one who follows and will call me, like, hey. (35:04) I'm getting low alerts. (35:05) Are you okay? (35:06) Yeah. (35:07) And if I don't answer, the sheriff's department will show up at the door.

Scott Benner (35:10) And if she would have called during your incident, that wouldn't have helped you, really. (35:14) Not that time. (35:15) Yeah.

Jamie (35:16) No.

Scott Benner (35:17) How do you do you feel any certain way about him not having that much interest in your die is it interest he doesn't have, or it's just the way you guys have had it set up? (35:25) I guess my first question is how long have you been together?

Jamie (35:27) We just celebrated our fourth anniversary, but we've known each other for probably ten or eleven years.

Scott Benner (35:35) So you got the beats when you were already knowing him at least?

Jamie (35:39) Yeah.

Scott Benner (35:40) Were you sexy time when you got it or were you just friends? (35:43) Wait.

Jamie (35:44) Can you rephrase the question? (35:45) What?

Scott Benner (35:46) Were you guys dating when you got diabetes or are you just friends at that point?

Jamie (35:50) We had dated for a while, and then we broke up for a while, and then we got back together.

Scott Benner (35:55) Did he do something wrong?

Jamie (35:57) He ghosted me. (35:58) He's gonna be so embarrassed. (35:59) I told everybody this.

Scott Benner (36:00) Did he really?

Jamie (36:01) He ghosted me. (36:02) Yeah. (36:02) He he had some issues going on in in his personal life, and he was embarrassed. (36:07) And so he basically just ended things.

Scott Benner (36:11) Without And

Jamie (36:12) I was

Scott Benner (36:13) without letting you know?

Jamie (36:14) Yeah. (36:15) Pretty much.

Scott Benner (36:15) After how me. (36:16) Jamie, after how long?

Jamie (36:18) Oh gosh. (36:19) We had been together for a year at that point.

Scott Benner (36:21) Get the fuck out of here. (36:22) Really?

Jamie (36:23) Yeah. (36:24) Wow. (36:24) Yeah. (36:25) But, you know, I knew he was the one. (36:28) Like, I knew.

Jamie (36:30) And so I was pretty upset when he left, but I was like, okay. (36:33) Well, life goes on. (36:34) But then he texted me through Facebook and was like sent me a no. (36:38) He sent me a friend request on Facebook, and I texted him back on Messenger. (36:42) And I was like, I think you got hacked because you just friend requested me.

Jamie (36:44) And he was like, no. (36:46) No. (36:46) That was me. (36:47) And I was like, okay. (36:48) Well, here's the deal.

Jamie (36:49) You're either gonna be a part of my life or you're not gonna be a part of my life.

Scott Benner (36:54) What are wrong with boys? (36:55) How did he mess that up so badly?

Jamie (36:58) I don't know.

Scott Benner (36:59) Do have you did you make him figure it out before you let him come be be back in together with you? (37:04) Awesome.

Jamie (37:05) Yep. (37:05) Did

Scott Benner (37:06) you make him explain himself?

Jamie (37:07) Figure everything out.

Scott Benner (37:08) Yeah. (37:08) Sit across from you at, like, a restaurant and explain the whole thing to you?

Jamie (37:12) Yeah. (37:13) Pretty much.

Scott Benner (37:13) What restaurant was it?

Jamie (37:15) It was I think we got Chipotle and hung out and sat. (37:18) Chipotle's one of my favorite places to eat, so yeah. (37:22) And he had to explain to me, like, look. (37:25) I was really embarrassed because I had some money issues going on, and it just was like, I don't care. (37:32) We're a if we're gonna be a couple, like, the money issues are a thing we face together because we're together.

Jamie (37:39) And so he has worked really hard at that and he, you know, is

Scott Benner (37:43) That's lovely.

Jamie (37:44) Still a guy. (37:45) He still has some learning, but he is

Scott Benner (37:46) He's still a little dopey? (37:47) Still trying to figure it out?

Jamie (37:49) Yeah. (37:50) Yeah. (37:50) That's okay.

Scott Benner (37:50) I'm sure he'll have it all straight by the time he's 60, maybe.

Jamie (37:53) Yeah. (37:54) Yeah. (37:54) He's been you know, he's, like, my best friend. (37:57) He's my soulmate. (37:58) He's the the thing that keeps me sane in my life, and he is my rock.

Jamie (38:03) So Saner.

Scott Benner (38:05) Let's say saner, Jamie. (38:07) Let's not go let's not go planning our flag in the mountain of sane. (38:12) Okay? (38:12) We've only been talking for thirty six minutes. (38:14) I don't know if you're sane or not yet.

Scott Benner (38:15) Oh.

Jamie (38:16) I'm not. (38:16) No. (38:17) I'm probably not. (38:18) He keeps me as close to sane as possible.

Scott Benner (38:20) That's it. (38:20) Let's be more accurate. (38:22) Wait. (38:22) But wait. (38:22) Wait.

Scott Benner (38:23) Wait. (38:23) Wait. (38:23) Wait. (38:23) I have more can I ask more questions? (38:25) I have more questions.

Jamie (38:26) Yes.

Scott Benner (38:27) You're telling me he just is like, you're, like, hanging out one day, doing something, and then the next day, he's not there. (38:36) And then the next day, he's not there. (38:37) And then it goes on for multiple days, you think to yourself, hey. (38:40) It's weird. (38:40) I haven't talked to that guy in a while that I've been dating for a year.

Scott Benner (38:43) I wonder what happened to him. (38:44) And then you text him and go, hey. (38:46) Are you okay? (38:47) And he doesn't respond.

Jamie (38:48) Pretty much. (38:49) I knew right right away that he had blocked me because he stopped talking. (38:53) Like, stopped responding. (38:54) Yeah. (38:55) And on Facebook, he was gone on Facebook and social media, and he had removed the, like, my family members and my friends from his Facebook.

Jamie (39:03) So I knew something had happened.

Scott Benner (39:05) Oh my

Jamie (39:05) god. (39:05) I just didn't know a 100% what it was. (39:08) I suspected what it was. (39:10) Jimmy. (39:10) But yeah.

Scott Benner (39:11) Wow. (39:12) I have to I'm listen. (39:13) No judgment. (39:14) Meanwhile, everything I say is judgment. (39:16) But just assume I don't just assume I don't mean any judgment by this.

Scott Benner (39:19) I don't think my wife would let me see her calves again if I did that to her, let alone, like, redate me. (39:25) I I I don't think she'd let me look at her in shorts. (39:27) I think she'd be like, no. (39:28) I'm sorry. (39:28) This isn't for you anymore.

Scott Benner (39:29) You were so taken with him. (39:31) How long were you not together after the the break?

Jamie (39:35) It was a, like, a year and a half.

Scott Benner (39:38) Wow. (39:38) You're a Yeah. (39:40) Wow. (39:40) Did you date in that time? (39:42) Somebody else?

Jamie (39:43) I did.

Scott Benner (39:44) Yeah. (39:44) Somebody he knew? (39:45) You probably picked somebody you knew on purpose. (39:47) Right?

Jamie (39:48) No. (39:48) No. (39:49) Actually, I didn't. (39:50) No.

Scott Benner (39:50) I might have. (39:50) All of

Jamie (39:51) his friends are married.

Scott Benner (39:52) I just realized I might be a slutty girl if I was a girl. (39:55) I was like

Jamie (39:56) I was Yeah.

Scott Benner (39:58) I'd find his best friend and definitely go out with him. (40:01) But all of his friends are married, like, so you okay. (40:05) So you

Jamie (40:05) went out

Scott Benner (40:06) Now I'm interested. (40:07) You're out and you're dating other people. (40:09) You just didn't find anybody that you jived with as well as you did with the guy who ghosted you? (40:14) Yeah. (40:14) Yeah.

Scott Benner (40:15) Can I be I'm ask a serious question? (40:17) Is that upsetting when you realize that?

Jamie (40:19) A little bit, but I just knew. (40:23) Like, I had never had as much fun with anybody else as I did with him. (40:27) Mhmm. (40:27) And I knew that, like like, we did goofy things, like, go to Claire's, and he would put the goofy little clown crowns on his head, the princess crowns, and goof off. (40:37) And, like, that was so much fun to me.

Jamie (40:39) And he would you know, he just let me be me. (40:42) Okay. (40:43) And he didn't judge me. (40:44) He didn't tell me I needed a change. (40:46) He didn't tell me I needed a you

Scott Benner (40:47) know? (40:48) Right.

Jamie (40:48) So the it just and then he was just gone.

Scott Benner (40:52) Yeah. (40:52) This thing happened that he was so flustered by. (40:56) He didn't want you to see it. (40:58) And Yep. (40:59) That's it.

Scott Benner (40:59) And that is how I explained it to you a year and a half later. (41:02) Do you did he date anybody in that year and a half?

Jamie (41:04) He did not.

Scott Benner (41:06) Yeah. (41:06) Interesting.

Jamie (41:08) Yeah.

Scott Benner (41:08) Is he very loyal now?

Jamie (41:11) He yes. (41:12) Yeah.

Scott Benner (41:12) I bet he tells you so Go ahead.

Jamie (41:14) I'm I'm also very loyal to him. (41:17) Like, he always feels like he can't make it up, I think, that he can't make up for that mistake. (41:22) But at the same time, like, he I don't know how to describe this. (41:25) This man has the biggest heart for the world that I have ever seen in my life. (41:29) Like, it does not matter who you are.

Jamie (41:32) If you had just insulted him and you needed a T shirt, he would take the shirt he's wearing and hand it to you. (41:38) Like, that is how he is, and he loves his family. (41:41) His family comes first, and we like, it just his heart is it's so incredible, and I can't even.

Scott Benner (41:52) I I'm sure he'll be touched to hear you describe him that way. (41:55) I wanna understand, though, how that person that you just described doesn't know that much about your diabetes. (42:00) How does that work? (42:01) You're diagnosed. (42:02) He knows you.

Scott Benner (42:03) You have type one. (42:05) You know, I mean, lot of I mean, you're taking insulin. (42:07) Right? (42:07) So probably tell people you have type one when they ask, I'd imagine.

Jamie (42:11) Oh, yeah. (42:12) And I wear my devices where everybody in the world can see them.

Scott Benner (42:15) Everybody knows about it. (42:16) He knows about it. (42:17) He's a big hearted guy. (42:19) Are you keeping him from knowing about your diabetes? (42:21) Is he staying at arm's length from it?

Scott Benner (42:24) Like, why does that connection not exist in the beginning like that?

Jamie (42:28) I think it's a it's probably me being stubborn.

Scott Benner (42:33) Okay. (42:33) Tell me more.

Jamie (42:35) Because I feel like I'm an adult and I can handle it and I don't need help. (42:39) The only thing that honestly drives me bonkers is that so he doesn't like to read the food labels

Scott Benner (42:45) Okay.

Jamie (42:46) Which is changing now because he also has to start watching what he's eating. (42:51) And so he'll bring me like, he'll make dinner and he'll bring me food. (42:56) I'll be like, so how many servings is this and how many grams of carbs? (42:59) And he's like, why? (42:59) Have no idea.

Scott Benner (43:00) So but you made it, and you got all the packages over there. (43:03) Right?

Jamie (43:04) Right. (43:05) Yeah. (43:05) So I was like, but sir, come on.

Scott Benner (43:07) Is this a math problem? (43:08) Is he bad with math?

Jamie (43:10) No. (43:10) He's very good with math. (43:12) I think it's a he's he's got ADHD. (43:14) Okay. (43:15) And I think it's I think it's an ADHD thing.

Jamie (43:17) He just forgets. (43:18) He gets so excited about cooking and eating and all the flavors that he just doesn't stop to think about the grams of carbs and the serving sizes.

Scott Benner (43:28) I just had a a joke pop into my head, and I thought, I wonder if people with ADHD would be upset if I said that.

Jamie (43:35) I don't know. (43:35) He's pretty laid back about it.

Scott Benner (43:37) Well, I don't mind worrying about him. (43:38) I'm worried about everyone else listening who has ADHD who might be offended. (43:41) But I thought, like, maybe he didn't really ghost you. (43:44) Maybe just forgot forgot about you for

Jamie (43:46) a while. (43:47) Right?

Scott Benner (43:48) Maybe he just got

Jamie (43:49) be the that's gonna be the new joke. (43:52) Yeah. (43:52) You should He just forgot.

Scott Benner (43:53) He should have just said, hey. (43:54) I'm so sorry. (43:55) But, like, I picked up this new thing on Netflix, and then I started putting puzzles together, and I forgot about you. (44:00) Right?

Jamie (44:01) Yeah.

Scott Benner (44:03) Sorry. (44:03) So Yeah.

Jamie (44:04) No. (44:05) It's okay. (44:05) No. (44:05) So, yeah, he he just doesn't think about it, and now he's finally starting to get it.

Scott Benner (44:11) Okay.

Jamie (44:11) Okay. (44:11) If I make, like, a frozen pizza real quick or whatever for dinner that I need to look at how many grams of carbs are in the serving I'm handing her. (44:19) And

Scott Benner (44:20) He's being really thoughtful about it. (44:22) And did the did the low blood sugar did it speed him up a little bit about his interest and concern, or did that only happen for a little while and it went and then it kinda went back to normal after that?

Jamie (44:32) I don't know how often he checks my blood sugar anymore Mhmm. (44:35) Honestly.

Scott Benner (44:36) Okay.

Jamie (44:36) I think I think he still looks I don't know. (44:39) But the other issue is that he drives professionally for a living, and he can't have alarms on his phone while he's driving. (44:45) So his his alarms, his follow alarms are off.

Scott Benner (44:48) Follow alarms are off. (44:49) He's not allowed to have what's he what's he driving? (44:52) The money? (44:54) You gotta

Jamie (44:54) Bosses.

Scott Benner (44:55) He's oh, he's driving people. (44:58) Yeah. (44:58) I see. (44:59) And they don't want they don't want his ship even while he's with them.

Jamie (45:02) Yeah. (45:02) They don't want any distractions while he's driving a bus.

Scott Benner (45:05) He's a limo driver?

Jamie (45:07) No. (45:08) He drives a bus. (45:09) Like like, the city buses.

Scott Benner (45:11) You said buses. (45:12) I thought you said buses.

Jamie (45:13) No. (45:14) Buses. (45:14) Oh. (45:15) It's that Minnesota accent going on.

Scott Benner (45:17) No. (45:18) I honestly thought, like, oh, he's probably got he's got, like, some important guy in a town car, he's running them all over. (45:22) By the way, also, women could be important. (45:23) Do know what I mean? (45:24) And Yeah.

Scott Benner (45:25) So he's driving a city bus. (45:28) So that's part of well, that makes sense. (45:29) Yeah. (45:30) I I just wanna say right now, don't want anybody driving a bus looking at their phone.

Jamie (45:33) Right. (45:34) Don't look at your phone.

Scott Benner (45:35) I watched a guy two days ago drive first of all, he's in the right lane, a two lane situation. (45:42) The speed limit's 55. (45:44) He's going 35. (45:45) Does not know it. (45:46) As I come up next to him thinking, like, what is he trying to get us all killed?

Scott Benner (45:49) I go around and I look over and he has just got, like, a tablet in his hand. (45:54) It's not even a phone. (45:54) It's a tablet, and he's reading. (45:56) And I'm like, what what why why are you so important? (46:01) You know what I mean?

Scott Benner (46:01) Like Who

Jamie (46:02) does that?

Scott Benner (46:02) Yeah. (46:02) Well, what why is this person so important that they this the only time they have to read? (46:07) You you know, like, I I I don't know. (46:08) Like, it I looked at him. (46:10) I didn't I didn't see a I didn't see a world leader in the car, but, I mean, maybe maybe he was making big decisions about something.

Scott Benner (46:16) I I have no idea. (46:17) Anyway, that freaked me out, and I don't want bus drivers doing that. (46:20) So he can't do that. (46:22) Could he have an Apple Watch that had, like, a follow on it? (46:25) Do they do that?

Scott Benner (46:26) Does Apple Watch have follow?

Jamie (46:27) He hates watches. (46:28) He never wears them.

Scott Benner (46:29) I see. (46:30) I see.

Jamie (46:31) So I mean and I'm honestly, I'm okay with it. (46:35) Like, we don't need two sets of alarms going off when we're together either. (46:40) Like, it just No. (46:41) It's enough if my phone goes off, and I keep a watch with my numbers on it. (46:46) And sometimes he'll look at my watch to see what I'm at, and it's alright.

Scott Benner (46:50) Yeah. (46:51) Do you have any residual fear left over from the low? (46:54) Does it stick in your head now a couple of months later, or have you pretty much gone back to normal?

Jamie (46:59) I've pretty much gone back to normal. (47:03) I feel like I I didn't have a whole lot of fear even in the beginning. (47:08) I guess I let myself run a little bit higher Mhmm. (47:12) Than I would have normally, but I also am just like I've been doing you know, I started your podcast way back when I first got diagnosed. (47:20) So my theory has always been to be bold with insulin, and I knew that a low like that could happen.

Jamie (47:26) Mhmm. (47:27) And I also know that a low like that is not the end of the world even though in the moment, it felt like it was gonna be Yeah. (47:34) The end of it. (47:35) But I know that lows are gonna happen, and there's reasons I keep low snacks. (47:40) There's reasons I wear Dexcom.

Jamie (47:42) There's reasons I have Baqsimi with me everywhere I go. (47:46) Like, that's the reason. (47:48) And even with a Dexcom, sometimes it's not perfect. (47:51) It's technology, and sometimes technology doesn't work right.

Scott Benner (47:55) Yeah.

Jamie (47:55) And I think in this instant, Dexcom said that I bottomed out at 55. (48:00) Now I have been 55.

Scott Benner (48:02) Didn't feel like that.

Jamie (48:03) This was not 55. (48:04) This was more like probably 30

Scott Benner (48:07) Okay.

Jamie (48:08) Ish or yeah.

Scott Benner (48:09) Did the squad not do a finger stick?

Jamie (48:12) They did. (48:12) And by the time they got here, I was already going back up.

Scott Benner (48:15) Grape soda was helping.

Jamie (48:17) Yeah. (48:17) The grape soda had been, like, in and it was going. (48:21) So

Scott Benner (48:21) What's a good brand of grape soda?

Jamie (48:23) I don't know. (48:24) I buy we buy the Cub. (48:26) I would have to get up and look.

Scott Benner (48:27) Wait. (48:27) You you buy the what?

Jamie (48:29) We buy it from Cub. (48:31) Cub Foods?

Scott Benner (48:31) I don't know what that is. (48:32) I don't live in that waste wasteland you live in in Minnesota, almost Canada, wherever the hell you are.

Jamie (48:39) I know. (48:39) Right?

Scott Benner (48:39) Yeah. (48:39) Yeah. (48:40) I know.

Jamie (48:40) It's super chill.

Scott Benner (48:41) It's soup wait. (48:42) That's what the soda's called?

Jamie (48:44) Yeah. (48:44) Super chill. (48:45) Okay. (48:45) It's a generic. (48:46) It doesn't have caffeine in it.

Jamie (48:48) So if I use it at night, it's not keeping me awake all night.

Scott Benner (48:51) Very nice. (48:51) Hold on. (48:52) I'm looking it up. (48:53) Also, I just put a piece of candy in my mouth. (48:55) I don't know why.

Scott Benner (48:55) I've never done that before. (48:56) It was stupid. (48:57) Now I gotta get rid

Jamie (48:58) of That's okay.

Scott Benner (48:59) Super chill. (49:00) Yeah.

Jamie (49:01) Grape soda. (49:02) They have orange soda stuff too. (49:05) They have root beer.

Scott Benner (49:08) Look at that. (49:09) I've never seen that in my life. (49:12) Isn't that interesting? (49:12) Yeah. (49:13) They make club soda too, if you ever need club soda.

Jamie (49:15) I just wanted something that had several grams of sugar and carbs and didn't have caffeine, and the grape soda is where we ended up.

Scott Benner (49:24) Can I tell you something? (49:26) Super Chill has something here called Diet Mountain Chill. (49:30) It's in a green bottle. (49:32) And between you and me, it's a direct Mountain Dew rip off. (49:35) And I say to them, well done.

Scott Benner (49:36) Because I looked at it and I knew exactly what it was supposed to be.

Jamie (49:40) Yeah. (49:40) It doesn't quite taste like unless they've changed the formula since the last time I had it, it doesn't quite taste like Mountain Dew.

Scott Benner (49:47) Have you tried it?

Jamie (49:47) And I don't, yes, I don't like diet. (49:50) I prefer the zeros.

Scott Benner (49:52) Okay. (49:52) Some good Super Chill information.

Jamie (49:56) Yeah. (49:56) And I don't think Super Chill has zeros. (49:59) Like so, like, I get Doctor Pepper zero

Scott Benner (50:02) Okay.

Jamie (50:02) Diet the Mountain Dew zero. (50:04) Those are my two go tos if I need caffeine. (50:08) But well, personally, I prefer coffee. (50:10) Kind of a crazy coffee person. (50:12) But

Scott Benner (50:13) yeah. (50:13) Coffee person? (50:14) I like how you said coffee. (50:15) Thank you for saying coffee.

Jamie (50:17) I love coffee. (50:18) What?

Scott Benner (50:19) Do you have Raynaud's?

Jamie (50:21) I do have Raynaud's.

Scott Benner (50:23) I just looked at the, at the notes and I was like, oh, I didn't see that before.

Jamie (50:27) I have Raynaud's. (50:29) I have anaphylactic allergies, and I also have psoriasis.

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