#1725 2026 Kickoff: Bloopers & Big News
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Scott celebrates the New Year with a special episode featuring bloopers, a preview of 2026 content, event announcements, and more.
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Scott Benner (0:00) Hello, friends, and welcome to the Juice Box podcast. (0:03) Happy New Year. (0:34) Some people want content no matter what the day. (0:38) Some people don't. (0:40) So today, I thought this one's gonna be for diehard fans.
Scott Benner (0:42) Let's make it something special, something fun, and, of course, not too long. (0:47) Today, I'm gonna share with you some bloopers from our recordings this year and some ideas about where I think the podcast is headed in 2026. (0:56) There are ways that you can be involved as a guest or as a community member. (1:01) I've got a couple of events to go to. (1:04) I'll tell you about all of it interspersed here with some fun bloopers.
Scott Benner (1:25) Just diagnosed with if you were just diagnosed with if you or a loved one was just diagnosed with type one diabetes, meet the bold beginning series from the Juice Box podcast. (1:37) Oh, man. (1:37) This is hokey is a mother hold on. (1:40) Less hokey. (1:45) Sorry, Rob.
Scott Benner (1:46) I guess there's no better way to start than to talk about the lists of diabetes content that's available if you're looking for management content. (1:56) This is not conversational stuff or interviews. (1:59) This is like the bold beginning series, the pro tips, etcetera. (2:03) Head to juiceboxpodcast.com/lists. (2:09) And there, you're gonna get a comprehensive guide to all of the different episodes that are collected in series format for you.
Scott Benner (2:18) Bold Beginnings Diabetes Pro Tips, Defining Diabetes, Small Sips, Diabetes Variables, Fat and Protein, Algorithm Pumping, The Math Behind Mental Wellness, pregnancy, grand rounds, how we eat after dark, bolus four, disordered eating, GLP meds, quick start guide, runs in the family, talking with children, the myths around diabetes, glucagon stories, defining thyroid, talking celiac, and much more. (2:44) Juiceboxpodcast.com/lists. (2:48) Jordan Wagner's back. (2:50) You know Jordan. (2:50) He's a nurse, a type one diabetes fucking Wagner's back.
Scott Benner (2:56) Jordan, of course, a nurse. (2:58) Fuck me. (3:00) Anyway, you might have liked Jordan. (3:01) He was on a number of episodes this year that were awesome. (3:05) You should go find them, and I'm hoping to have him back.
Scott Benner (3:08) I hope you, enjoy listening to me try to make a bumper for his recent episode. (3:14) I'm gonna be talking about some stuff this year that I didn't imagine I'd ever be talking about on the podcast, and one of them is gonna come up pretty quickly in the first quarter. (3:24) Here's a little look into what that might be about. (3:28) And he's like, don't worry. (3:29) It's no big deal.
Scott Benner (3:30) She can watch the baby for a second. (3:32) She puts Cole behind a curtain. (3:33) Cole doesn't know he was there for that, by way. (3:35) But she puts Cole behind a curtain. (3:36) Thank god she puts Cole behind the curtain because then the nurse watches Cole instead of my instead of my balls hanging sideways next to my asshole while this guy cranks me open like a clam.
Scott Benner (3:47) You you know what I mean? (3:47) And then and you ladies gotta go to the the hoochie doctor. (3:51) You know what I'm talking about. (3:52) Imagine that in your butt. (3:53) So and by the way, I've never had an experience on my butt.
Scott Benner (3:56) So that was my first time he took my virginity. (3:59) I guess we're just talking about this now. (4:00) So he puts it in there and you can literally see him turning the thing. (4:03) I'm like, you are kidding me. (4:05) And it hurts, FYI.
Scott Benner (4:08) Yeah. (4:08) So look forward to me sharing a health issue that you didn't know I had coming up soon on the Juice Box podcast. (4:15) Wow. (4:15) I can't believe I said I that person, she tricked me into saying that. (4:20) When you hear the episode, you'll see why.
Scott Benner (4:22) I I guess I hadn't actually decided how open I was gonna be about that. (4:25) No pun intended. (4:27) But that actually helped me make a couple decisions moving forward that I'm very, very happy about. (4:32) You'll hear more about them as well. (4:35) Alright, Rob.
Scott Benner (4:36) There's some cursing. (4:37) I apologize for that. (4:38) But I there's a title in here. (4:40) I forgot it. (4:42) Things have changed.
Scott Benner (4:43) Nothing's ever gonna be the same. (4:44) Something in that vein she said in the last quarter of the converse goddamn it. (4:50) Oh, Rob. (4:51) I'm so mad. (4:51) It was a perfect title.
Scott Benner (4:52) I didn't write it down. (4:54) Goddamn it. (4:55) Not the same. (4:56) Never the same. (4:57) Things have changed.
Scott Benner (5:00) Fuck. (5:00) Fuck. (5:01) Fuck. (5:01) Fuck. (5:01) Fuck.
Scott Benner (5:02) If you don't know what I'm talking I'm so mad at myself. (5:05) If you don't know what I'm talking about, tell me, and I'll relisten to it before I put it up to get the title out because the title's too good. (5:11) That's it. (5:12) Goddamn it. (5:13) That pisses me off.
Scott Benner (5:15) So you must be thinking, Scott, you've obviously put a piece of paper by your desk so you can write things down as you're recording. (5:20) No. (5:20) I have not. (5:21) I I what's the word I want? (5:24) Frequently.
Scott Benner (5:26) I frequently forget the titles that I wanna make the podcast, and then I drop it on poor Rob during editing to figure out what I was talking about. (5:33) Anyway, I do say fuck a number of times and shit twice. (5:39) I think they're grouped together. (5:41) Robbie. (5:42) What's up, Robbie?
Scott Benner (5:43) Hey, Robbie. (5:43) So the episodes end. (5:46) I usually say, hey, Rob. (5:47) I wanna call this episode this. (5:48) I curse here or there, and then I say his name oddly.
Scott Benner (5:52) I don't know why I do all of that, but you're now getting to hear private messages that I leave for my editor, Rob, who does a wonderful job. (5:59) By the way, he's, available to, edit your podcast as well if you have one and you're looking for a great editor. (6:07) Oh my god. (6:07) I'm dying. (6:08) Hold on a second.
Scott Benner (6:11) Oh my god. (6:12) Hold on. (6:13) Rob, cut that out. (6:14) Would you If you're looking for community, I really think you should check out the private Facebook group for the Juice Box podcast. (6:24) It now has 78,000 active members, and it it's absolutely wonderful.
Scott Benner (6:28) It does about a 150 new posts a day. (6:31) Those posts, they get up to 8,000 likes, hearts, and comments every day. (6:38) About a 150 new people join the group every two to three days. (6:43) It is really just a wonderful, a wonderful place. (6:47) I highly suggest even if you don't think you wanna talk or interact with people directly, just watching, lurking, seeing how people are, you could find it incredibly comforting.
Scott Benner (6:57) I'm very proud of that group. (6:58) Go check it out. (6:59) If you don't like Facebook, I also have a private group on Circle. (7:02) There's links in the show notes for that. (7:05) It's, most people charge for their Circle groups.
Scott Benner (7:07) Mine's completely free. (7:08) I hope you you take a look at that too. (7:12) Listen. (7:12) I'm just gonna come out and say it. (7:14) We shouldn't have let everybody use the Internet.
Scott Benner (7:16) It should have just I don't know how we should have chosen who, but there can't be 17 different answers for one fucking question. (7:22) Okay? (7:23) There are so many opinions on the Internet, but I find that that private Facebook group is just uniquely wonderful about giving their perspectives that are very helpful for people. (7:37) It's not a whole lot of junk opinions that waste your time. (7:41) This year, longtime listeners must have laughed at me over and over again talking about how I would never get another dog, and then Arden asked for a puppy, and I got her a puppy.
Scott Benner (7:50) Robert, I got you a two parter here, my friend. (7:53) I curse a fair amount. (7:54) So there's that. (7:56) She's sick. (7:57) She coughs a couple of times, but she doesn't cough over herself while she was talking, so it's probably pretty easy to lift out.
Scott Benner (8:06) And I of course, I don't really understand your job, so maybe it's easy and maybe it's not. (8:10) I really don't know. (8:11) Sorry. (8:12) Crumble in paper. (8:14) And my dog hello, dog.
Scott Benner (8:16) Had to be in here with me today. (8:18) So I don't in the beginning, you might hear him licking his feet. (8:21) You monster. (8:22) Look at why you lick your feet so much? (8:25) Robbie just was like he was like it was just happening a lot.
Scott Benner (8:29) So, if you hear that, I'm sorry. (8:32) But I tried not to talk over it, so it'd be easy to lift. (8:35) That's pretty much it, my friend. (8:36) I'll see you soon. (8:38) I hope you guys don't skip the bumpers that we put at the beginning of the end to tell you about the different series and where you can go get more information that will help you because I work really hard on those.
Scott Benner (8:47) And I they're not as easy for me as they may sound in the final edit. (8:53) Though once in a while, I get it right, and I am incredibly proud of myself when that happens. (8:58) How's that, Rob? (9:00) In one take, motherfucker. (9:03) Fuck you.
Scott Benner (9:04) God, you do it one time. (9:05) You can't. (9:07) It's you and your laptop out in the woods. (9:10) I don't know what you do out there. (9:12) Also, sometimes Rob goes on bike rides and then edits the show in, like, coffee shops and stuff like that.
Scott Benner (9:17) And I get a little jealous in case you're wondering what that was. (9:20) If you've ever recorded with me and something that's in my office has made a bunch of noise, it's usually paraphernalia keeping my many lizards alive. (9:28) I apologize for that. (9:30) However, if you would like to be on the Juice Box podcast, now is the time to send in your pitch. (9:36) Scott@JuiceBoxpodcast.com.
Scott Benner (9:38) I am currently filling the 2026. (9:42) My calendar fills up incredibly quickly. (9:45) Please do not hesitate. (9:48) Noisy thing in the background. (9:49) Gonna get rid of it, and I will go right back to my thought.
Scott Benner (9:51) Rob, I apologize about this, of course, about the pause. (9:57) I was talking about this with Jenny today while we were recording, but I've been using, different AI models to synthesize conversations from the podcast, taking a number of different conversations about certain topics and then creating, blog posts basically that direct you through those ideas a little more specifically. (10:18) And I have to tell you, I know some of you don't love the, don't love the computers, but I am finding it incredibly valuable. (10:26) Like, I don't know that I could ever sit down, listen to three hours worth of stuff, synthesize it out, you know, pull out the very the very, important unique points that need to be made over and over again, then regurgitate them again in a way that are is valuable for you. (10:42) You should check it out.
Scott Benner (10:43) If you go to juiceboxpodcast.com up to the top, there are, guides like fat and protein insulin calculator, you know, how to improve your you know, how how physician can improve their care for people. (10:57) Like, that's the entire grand round series broken down. (11:02) There's caregiver burnout stuff, GLP medication, understanding thyroid. (11:06) This stuff is all I mean, they're my words and, you know, conversations that I've had with other people, so, you know, other people's words as well. (11:14) But I just don't have the staff to sit down and and parse through everything, and and AI has been really helpful for that.
Scott Benner (11:20) So I know some of you are scared of it, but I really appreciate it. (11:24) I hope you guys are enjoying what it's, churning out for you. (11:29) Now the people who are like, you're ruining the world with ChatGPT. (11:33) The whole world the whole podcast is about that now. (11:35) I hear you fucking crybabies.
Scott Benner (11:39) I've made over, I don't know, 220 episodes this year. (11:42) Some of them have been awesome. (11:44) All of them have been good, my opinion. (11:46) But once in a while, I get knocked over by by how honest and forthright you guys are, and I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing your stories like that. (11:54) It sometimes boils over even when I'm done recording.
Scott Benner (11:59) Holy Roberto, hold on to your knickers. (12:03) I wanna take a moment to thank all the great sponsors for the podcast. (12:07) They're in your show notes right now and at juiceboxpodcast.com. (12:10) Every one of them is back for 2026. (12:12) I can't thank you guys enough.
Scott Benner (12:14) I worked very hard on those ads. (12:15) I hope you guys appreciate it. (12:18) Holy balls. (12:21) That ain't gonna fit in thirty six seconds. (12:22) What the fuck?
Scott Benner (12:23) Maybe it will. (12:25) Crafting a good thirty or sixty second ad is a lot more work than you think. (12:29) Getting everything in there just right so that it's memorable and and, been said correctly, it's, you should see the beginning of every year as me sitting in here for a while sounding just like that. (12:40) I don't remember what this one's about, but Rob sent me something about the Beatles. (12:45) It was a video or something, and this was my response to it.
Scott Benner (12:49) Oh, by the way, that Beatles thing was fucking creepy, man. (12:52) Don't send me shit like that again. (12:53) You're gonna make me sad. (12:55) How the fuck did why did someone even do that? (12:57) The Internet.
Scott Benner (12:58) You know what I mean? (12:59) Too many people. (13:01) Speaking of the Internet, if you're not following me on Facebook, on the public page or part of the Facebook group on the private page. (13:08) You could also follow me on Instagram, YouTube, TikTok. (13:11) We're about everywhere.
Scott Benner (13:12) Speaking of that, if you're interested right now, I just got back from a cruise on the Celebrity Beyond cruise ship. (13:20) This is the same ship we're going out on in June for the Juice Cruise. (13:23) That's Juice Cruise, 2026. (13:27) Right now, we have a nice group together. (13:29) We're building it up.
Scott Benner (13:30) It's getting bigger every day. (13:31) I mean, quite honestly, if you'd like to get together, you know, at the days at sea or during the days at sea, hear me talk about some diabetes stuff, do some q and a's. (13:41) We're having Jenny come on again, remotely. (13:44) Jenny does a great, two hour talk. (13:48) Last time, I don't know how we're gonna do it this time, but Jenny comes on, chats with you guys.
Scott Benner (13:52) The Internet, by the way, while we're complaining about the Internet, out in the middle of the ocean, the Internet is rock solid. (13:58) I don't know how they do that. (13:59) It's amazing. (14:00) But Jenny's, Zooms in. (14:02) So does Erica, if you know Erica from the mental health stuff.
Scott Benner (14:06) It's a really nice opportunity for you to go on vacation, to meet a lot of other people with type one diabetes, to be on a premium boat. (14:13) I like I said, I just got back from basically taste testing the Celebrity Beyond, and it is an exceptionally clean, well run ship. (14:21) Kelly and I just got back from a week on it. (14:23) It was awesome. (14:25) What I'll say is this.
Scott Benner (14:26) If you're a person who loves cruising, this is a no brainer for you. (14:31) If you can afford it, because it's not inexpensive. (14:33) Right? (14:34) Juiceboxpodcast.com/juicecruise to learn more. (14:38) But it's also not crazy if, cruises are something that you're accustomed to doing.
Scott Benner (14:42) Get off at different ports of call. (14:44) I love it. (14:44) You get up in the morning. (14:45) You're in a completely different country. (14:47) You go enjoy it for a full day.
Scott Benner (14:49) Come back. (14:49) Have a nice meal. (14:50) Go for a swim. (14:51) I watched a football game up on the deck, Saturday night. (14:54) My god.
Scott Benner (14:55) I was 40 yards from the TV, and it was still massive. (14:58) Looked like a a drive in movie screen. (15:00) So, anyway, if you wanna come along, again, there's links in the show notes, but juiceboxpodcast.com/juicecruise. (15:07) Give it a try. (15:09) I I learned a lot last year seeing, a diverse group of people living with type one together, and I'm talking about, like, from kids and their families, young kids, you know, eight, nine, ten, three, four, five, 17, 18, 19, parents, adults, up to people in their seventies were there who had type one diabetes.
Scott Benner (15:30) It's a really awesome opportunity to mingle together an eclectic group of people who would not normally be together. (15:37) I watch these people immediately become comfortable, And then, of course, you're not stuck together. (15:44) It's a giant ship and there's a lot to do. (15:46) So you can see people when you want, have that experience, move on, have your vacation at the same time. (15:51) I'll do a little chitting and chatting about diabetes.
Scott Benner (15:53) We'll get Jenny there. (15:54) We'll get Erica there. (15:55) We're working on some other stuff as well. (15:56) I think you're gonna love it. (15:58) Check it out.
Scott Benner (16:00) Oh gosh. (16:00) And I said all that because on my social media, can see some videos of the ship. (16:04) I think that's how I started down that path. (16:05) Sorry. (16:06) Alright.
Scott Benner (16:06) Let's give you one more of these and wrap this sucker up, shall we? (16:09) What do I want to play for you Right when my dick stops working. (16:15) No. (16:15) We'll save that one for later. (16:19) Rob, we're I can't do custom intros for all the episodes.
Scott Benner (16:25) Let's see. (16:27) No. (16:27) That's funny. (16:27) I can't do that for you. (16:30) Let's do this one.
Scott Benner (16:31) I used to have this awesome skill when I was younger, like stopping myself from breathing and then making noises, and I tried it for Rob one day. (16:39) Robert, I have no idea what to call this one. (16:41) This one took me by surprise. (16:54) You ever do this? (16:55) Do you ever go I used to be better at this when I was younger.
Scott Benner (17:02) Maybe I need a drink. (17:03) Hold on. (17:05) It's like you stop breathing, and then you make, like, a noise in the back of your throat. (17:11) So good when I was a kid. (17:12) Ready?
Scott Benner (17:42) Oh my god. (17:43) Almost passed out. (17:46) That's how it's too long to hold my breath. (17:49) Alright, guys. (17:50) Listen.
Scott Benner (17:51) It is time for me to go, but I want you to know that I'm recording this on December 22. (17:57) There is a full year of podcast coming up for you. (18:00) We're gonna be running a Monday, but I'll tell you what. (18:02) Don't I know how many I'm putting up. (18:03) We're definitely doing Monday through Friday.
Scott Benner (18:05) We'll probably slip in some bolus for stuff on the weekends without ads on it, give you some ideas about how to bolus for simple, simple one item meals and more combo meals. (18:17) Jenny and I just did a combo meal one today. (18:19) It went really well. (18:19) We're gonna probably do more of that. (18:22) But I'm already looking at the first couple of weeks set up on the podcast.
Scott Benner (18:26) Emma's dad, bloopers, DK has become a problem. (18:31) Cinderella story. (18:33) Oh, squishy pushy is coming out soon. (18:36) Medtronic for the win. (18:38) There's a lot here.
Scott Benner (18:39) The other thing that you're gonna be seeing in 2026 is me at events. (18:44) So ADA, a d c e s, Friends for Life, Touched by Type one, Juice Cruise twenty twenty six. (18:52) Finalizing a deal to by the way, a deal. (18:55) They're not paying me. (18:56) I'm just showing up.
Scott Benner (18:57) A hospital in Long Island. (18:59) If you have a an event you'd like me to come out to, like, you know, come find me. (19:03) This is the year of Scott. (19:04) I'm gonna be a little bit of everywhere this year. (19:07) A lot of public events.
Scott Benner (19:09) We are trying right now. (19:10) I hope the person listening to this hears me. (19:12) I really wanna get together and do that Phillies game this summer in Philadelphia, like, you know, where everybody can buy tickets, we'll sit in the same section together. (19:20) I'll be out and about. (19:22) So come find me on the socials, in the Facebook group, you know, however you want to.
Scott Benner (19:27) You can email me through the website. (19:29) And if you'd like to be a guest on the Juice Box podcast, go to the website. (19:33) Email me, Scott@JuiceBoxpodcast.com. (19:36) Just let me know what it is you'd like to talk about, and we're gonna get you out a link, get you set up on the show, and you're gonna be part of the stories that people hear in 2026. (19:45) There'll be a ton of stories for you next year, more new series with Jenny, with Erica, and other prominent people in the diabetes community.
Scott Benner (19:54) We're gonna be talking to people from different companies about their devices. (19:58) I have a series coming out with Tandem about using their algorithm. (20:02) I've got stuff coming out with Omnipod. (20:04) I've been talking to Medtronic about making some stuff. (20:07) I've been talking to Dexcom.
Scott Benner (20:08) We're gonna get you a lot, a lot of content that you're looking for. (20:11) I hope you have an absolutely wonderful New Year, and I hope you enjoy Rob, who is not just a great editor, but a really awesome guitar player, giving you a little old Lang Syne. (20:23) Did you know it was old Lang Syne? (20:25) It's not old Lang Syne. (20:26) You know, some people think that.
Scott Benner (20:28) May old acquaintance be for you know that whole thing? (20:32) Can can I give it to you a little bit? (20:38) I'm gonna get the meaning for you. (20:40) I forget where I learned this. (20:42) I think in one of my first jobs as an adult, we were doing something for New Year's, and someone's like, you are saying that wrong.
Scott Benner (20:48) So it's often people say old long since, or it's misspelled as old langs ein, but it's old lang sine, a u l d l a n g s y n e. (21:02) I believe it's Scottish, and it does mean old long since or more naturally times long past or days gone by. (21:12) So Rob does a beautiful version of it on guitar. (21:15) I'm trying to get him to put it in right here. (21:17) Obviously, it's what I'm doing.
Scott Benner (21:18) We sing it, farewells, funerals, graduations, New Year's Eve, anytime where you kinda pause, look back in song. (21:26) And, I'm gonna give you the, I'm gonna give you the lyrics for it. (21:30) So when you hear Rob playing, you kinda sing along if you want. (21:35) Should old acquaintance be forgot and never brought to mind? (21:39) Should old acquaintance be forgot and old lang sein?
Scott Benner (21:44) For old lang sein, my dear. (21:46) For old lang sein. (21:48) Will take a cup, oh, kindness yet, And surely, you and surely, you'll be your surely, you'll be your pint stop. (22:01) Leave this in, Rob, for people so they can hear the bloopers live. (22:04) And surely ye okay.
Scott Benner (22:06) Ready? (22:07) And surely you'll be your pint stop, and surely I'll be mine, and we'll take a cup of kindness yet for Auld Lang Syne. (22:16) We toa run about the braze and pal the goin's fine, but we've wandered money a weary fit. (22:26) Sin on Lang Syne. (22:28) Wow.
Scott Benner (22:28) This gets, like, really. (22:30) I'd oh, jeez. (22:33) We'd I'd I'd the burn. (22:37) Fry morning sun till dine, but sees between us, braid Hayward. (22:43) Sin on all the lang sign.
Scott Benner (22:47) And there's a hand, my trusty fire, and guys, a hand, o thine, and will take a right guild willy wot for all the lang sign. (22:57) Alright. (22:57) Let's let's see that in modern English, shall we? (23:00) See if I can get you like a I didn't know I was gonna be doing this. (23:04) It's kind of interesting.
Scott Benner (23:05) I hope you think it's interesting. (23:07) Modern English. (23:08) Should old friendships be forgotten and never remembered? (23:11) Should old friendships be forgotten and days long past? (23:14) This is kind of a translation.
Scott Benner (23:15) For days long past, my friend, for days long past, we'll share a cup of kindness for days long past. (23:22) You'll buy your drink and I'll buy mine, and we'll share kindness again for days long past. (23:29) We ran together through the hills and picked wildflowers, but we've walked many tired miles since days long past. (23:36) We paddled in the streams from morning until dinner, but wide oceans now lie between us since days long past. (23:43) So take my hand, my trusted friend, and give me yours, and we'll drink with goodwill for days long past.
Scott Benner (23:51) And then it goes on. (23:53) Anyway, we can all do that together. (23:56) Right? (23:56) Let's take our hands and, walk forward in 2026, learn more about taking care of ourselves and our health and our families. (24:04) Here's to a bright and prosperous New Year and a great future for people living with type one diabetes.
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#1724 Emma's Dad - Part 2
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Chris returns to redeem himself after episode 1600, discussing resilience, family health improvements, AI in diabetes care, and an unbelievable story about inheriting land and a battleship.
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Scott Benner (0:00) Hello, friends, and welcome to the Juice Box podcast. (0:03) Another year down, another year of helping each other through the highs, lows, and everything in between. (0:39) This is part two of a two part episode. (0:41) Go look at the title. (0:42) If you don't recognize it, you haven't heard part one yet.
Scott Benner (0:45) It's probably the episode right before this in your podcast player.
Chris (0:50) My name is Chris. (0:52) I'm Emma's dad from episode 1,600 Into the Woods, and I'm here to sort of follow-up and redeem myself for all the nasty things she said about me in that episode.
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Scott Benner (2:43) But they had gone to chat GPT and had a, a conversation about something about diabetes that they did, they didn't understand. (2:52) And I browsed it really quickly, I thought, I think this thing gave her a rock solid answer. (2:57) And, you know, she was able to ask follow-up questions, which I think is maybe where that separates you from Google a little bit. (3:03) Like, you ask the first question, you get an answer back, and you might have more questions, but it's hard to know then where to go from there. (3:09) And then people came in, they were like, this seems reasonable to me.
Scott Benner (3:12) And people were interested in it too. (3:14) So it's gotta be coming a little bit. (3:17) But I don't know how long till regular people who aren't, you know what I mean, digging into stuff like this figure it out. (3:23) Because if you're online, you think everybody's doing this, but that's certainly not the case. (3:27) Yeah.
Scott Benner (3:28) How do you use it at work where the translator helps again?
Chris (3:31) So where the translator helps, like, we're doing an effort with Japan. (3:35) So, you know, we don't speak Japanese. (3:37) So there was there are translators involved, like actual human translators today. (3:42) And then they released this feature into Microsoft Teams, and we all tried it out first by hopping in there and having it translate our voice in real time to Japanese, which none of us could understand. (3:53) But then later, they joined a meeting with the translator, and it was pretty close.
Chris (3:57) And the fascinating thing is it's faster than the actual translator
Scott Benner (4:01) Okay.
Chris (4:01) Because it takes the real translator a fair amount, and the translator is going to to change things. (4:08) You know? (4:08) When it when because when you convert from one language to another, a lot of times, it's not a direct word for word translation. (4:13) Mhmm. (4:14) You have to you have to assume emphasis or whatever.
Chris (4:17) And, know, that that's something that the human is adding and modifying where the AI will be more, more universal and more standardized in in its approach and its responses.
Scott Benner (4:27) Yeah. (4:28) I am right now, while you're talking, I started the agent mode because my transcripts are behind a drop down on each page. (4:36) So you have to click on it to to to make the text appear. (4:39) I put it in agent mode, I told it to go get the transcript for 1,600. (4:43) And I just I'm watching it navigate the the website by itself right now.
Chris (4:48) Oh, that's so cool.
Scott Benner (4:49) Yeah. (4:49) I'm trying to see. (4:50) I don't know if it's gonna figure it knows that the the click box is there. (4:53) It's it's it's trying. (4:54) The cursor's on the screen.
Scott Benner (4:56) It says it's doing it. (4:57) If it hits that drop down and then pulls out that transcript, I have to tell you, I see that as a that's gonna be a pretty big leap. (5:06) You know? (5:07) Oh. (5:07) Oh, it just did it.
Chris (5:08) No. (5:08) No.
Scott Benner (5:08) It just hit the it just it just clicked the
Chris (5:10) That's so cool.
Scott Benner (5:10) It just clicked the box, clicking to expand the transcript. (5:17) Yeah. (5:17) It's gonna copy that transcript out. (5:20) And then I'm and now I may you know, imagine, I'm obviously, I can ask it, you know, what Emma talked about. (5:25) I can ask it about, like, you know, what what were some of the big topics.
Scott Benner (5:29) But if she and I actually spoke about, you know, something technical, like, it could pull it right out. (5:35) Accessing transcripts and preparing to share. (5:37) It is just scrolling through the website by itself. (5:40) The way OpenAI tell is trying to get people excited about it is if you have, like, an online shopping setup where you have your groceries delivered as an example. (5:49) Like, this is an example.
Scott Benner (5:50) In their video where they tried to explain how this might work, they had the guy go on and, like, he's like, know, I pulled up a recipe, and he's like, you know, these recipes, like, they put so much stuff on the page. (6:00) It's always hard to find. (6:01) I was like, that's true. (6:02) And then he just said, like, tell me the ingredients I need to to feed eight people. (6:06) And it told him, and then he looked at it, he's like, well, I need this and this, these two things.
Scott Benner (6:11) And he just said, order the beef and the chicken or something like that. (6:14) And the agent just went through his browser, opened up his account, ordered the food, paid for it. (6:19) It was insane. (6:20) Oh. (6:21) Yeah.
Scott Benner (6:21) Yeah.
Chris (6:21) That that's gonna make that's gonna make things like my job so much easier. (6:25) The things that I have to either delegate or do manually today to be able to just tell an agent like, hey. (6:30) Go do that thing I I had to do last week. (6:32) Right.
Scott Benner (6:32) And in real simple language too. (6:34) Right. (6:35) Not, you know, not specific. (6:36) Well, now the transcript is over in the in the window. (6:39) It pulled the transcript out.
Scott Benner (6:41) Let's do something strange, like, say, translate it to Korean. (6:49) Korean. (6:49) We'll do that. (6:51) Okay. (6:52) Y'all gotta find something to do with your time.
Chris (6:55) I'm sure the government will give you food and money. (6:58) Absolutely.
Scott Benner (6:59) You know, listen. (6:59) I don't this isn't gonna, you know, this isn't gonna stop my hairdresser from cutting my hair, but there is definitely gonna I mean, it's in Korean now. (7:06) I can't speak Korean, but there it is.
Chris (7:09) Yeah. (7:09) I've I've I've got a couple of little topics that she wanted to make sure that I covered. (7:12) She wrote me a note.
Scott Benner (7:13) Go to it. (7:14) Start start up while it pulls out all the crap she said about you.
Chris (7:17) So she wanted me to mention that she's no longer doing gymnastics and that she's she's transitioned almost full time to jujitsu Mhmm. (7:24) And that she's doing cross country. (7:26) So she wanted me to give little give a little update on that. (7:28) She's actually loving loving jujitsu, which I love because it means that as she gets more involved with boys, that she's just going to be able to choke them out if they they give her a hard time. (7:38) It's awesome from a dad's perspective.
Scott Benner (7:41) She told Scott that she loves gymnastics and believes she's way better than her dad at it. (7:45) She joked that her dad tries to copy her routines, watches her closely, and thinks he's this is in quotes, thinks he's so much better than me now. (7:53) And Scott asks what she thinks in her head, but doesn't say out loud. (7:56) Emma replied, I think he's so bad that he will never get it.
Chris (8:02) Oh, that that so the fact that it put it in quotes is awesome because I I just listened to the episode within the last few days. (8:08) And the way she says it is, like, oh, he thinks he's so much better than me. (8:12) Like, it picked up the that sentiment in there.
Scott Benner (8:15) Yeah. (8:15) No. (8:15) This
Chris (8:15) is That's really cool.
Scott Benner (8:16) This is fascinating. (8:17) It really is. (8:18) I I can't wait to pick around with it a little more and see. (8:20) But my point was is that, you know, if I jumped in too quickly with you know, a year ago, it was you're gonna have to finance your own large language model and find a server to put it on, and you're gonna pay tokens for people to use it, and it's gonna cost you tens of thousands of dollars a year to offer this to people. (8:39) And I thought, oh, I can't do that.
Scott Benner (8:40) And then more recently, a few months ago, I talked to somebody who's in the space and they said, oh, you know, in a couple of years, you'll be able to build your own model for a couple thousand dollars. (8:49) It won't be as hard, like, blah blah blah, like, you know, on and on. (8:52) And and and now today, they're like, you know, they're like, hey. (8:55) Here's a browser. (8:56) And I'm like, what's gonna happen in six months?
Scott Benner (8:59) When's it gonna look at my, kid's blood sugar and go, hey. (9:03) Why don't you make the insulin sensitivity a little stronger?
Chris (9:06) Have you seen the Will Smith video? (9:08) Wait. (9:08) Will Smith eating spaghetti?
Scott Benner (9:09) Not the catcher for the Dodgers?
Chris (9:11) No. (9:12) I haven't seen that one.
Scott Benner (9:13) Okay. (9:13) Well, Will Smith is the catcher for the Dodgers.
Chris (9:15) Every time
Scott Benner (9:15) Oh, okay. (9:16) Every time he popped up on television last week, Arden was like, that throws me off every time. (9:20) No. (9:20) Wait. (9:20) There's a video of Will Smith eating spaghetti?
Chris (9:23) Yeah. (9:23) The, you know, the artist formerly known as the Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
Scott Benner (9:26) Mhmm.
Chris (9:26) He, there was early AI. (9:29) And I I mean, what, two years ago? (9:31) I think maybe when Sora first came out. (9:33) There was a video it was sort of a benchmark of this is what AI video can do. (9:38) And it was Will Smith eating spaghetti, but it kinda looked like Will Smith at the beginning and then turned into something that might have looked like like Shrek.
Scott Benner (9:46) Okay.
Chris (9:46) And then it just got really weird, you know, multiple fingers and then the fingers became the spaghetti. (9:51) It was wild. (9:53) Then there was a version two about a year later where it was better, but he still had too many fingers and, you know, sometimes his he'd move and his ear would stay, and it was still a little funky. (10:02) Yeah. (10:02) Spaghetti didn't really look like spaghetti.
Chris (10:04) The one that just dropped last week looks like Will Smith's eating spaghetti and even has him say something like, damn, that is some good spaghetti, and it sounds just like Will Smith. (10:15) Wow. (10:16) So it just shows in two years, this is what we've been able to do. (10:20) Yeah. (10:21) It's really gonna be something to see where it goes.
Scott Benner (10:22) Super excited about it. (10:23) I also I can understand that we've all become more socially conscious, and I think that's great. (10:27) I honestly genuinely think that's great. (10:30) But I just think back to when I was younger, and this stuff didn't exist. (10:34) Like, you're, what, you're probably thirteen years younger than me.
Scott Benner (10:38) Right? (10:38) So but I grew up in a world where none of this existed, and we'd sit around and dream about this stuff. (10:44) Even if I told you that my mom used to sit around and say, one day, they're gonna come out with a pill and people aren't gonna be fat anymore. (10:52) That's my mom's Mhmm. (10:53) Her words.
Scott Benner (10:54) And I'll be damned. (10:56) I live long enough for that to happen. (10:57) Right. (10:58) I swear to you, I I sat down on that stage yesterday and I saw myself in a monitor and I was like, goddamn. (11:03) I look like a person.
Scott Benner (11:04) Look at that. (11:04) Like, it was really like, I was excited. (11:07) You know? (11:07) Like, I was like, this is this is awesome. (11:10) Not I wasn't embarrassed to be up there.
Scott Benner (11:11) I didn't have to kinda think about it. (11:13) And I'll I'll tell you too. (11:14) I don't know if
Chris (11:14) this is right or wrong.
Scott Benner (11:15) I think it's wrong, but I think people took me more seriously because of it too. (11:19) Because I've spoken in the past at things heavier, and I don't know. (11:23) You know? (11:23) I just people just don't take it as seriously for some reason.
Chris (11:26) And I bet. (11:27) Same experience. (11:28) Yep.
Scott Benner (11:29) Really, a terror like, listen. (11:30) That's terrible. (11:31) People shouldn't do that. (11:32) But I also don't think they were doing it consciously. (11:34) Like, I don't think they were giving me more credit yesterday because I'm leaner than before, and I don't think they were consciously taking away from me.
Scott Benner (11:42) I just I don't know, man. (11:43) I just think it's how it's how people's minds work sometimes. (11:45) You know? (11:46) Yeah. (11:46) But with this technology stuff, I swear to you, I've told this story probably too many times in this podcast, but when I was a little kid, I saved up money.
Scott Benner (11:54) I went to Radio Shack, and I bought a computer. (11:57) And it took me two years to save up that money. (12:00) And I brought that computer home, and I had a book with me. (12:03) And I typed code for a day into that damn thing and hit execute, nothing happened. (12:09) And then I went back and went back through the book and back through the code.
Scott Benner (12:12) I found, like, three typos, fixed them. (12:16) I was like, I did it. (12:17) I hit execute and a stick figure did one jumping jack. (12:21) And I took that computer, put it back in the box and I returned it.
Chris (12:25) Yep. (12:25) See, I was the kid who took that computer and then said, okay. (12:29) How how can I make him do more than the jumping jack? (12:31) And I just continued to expand it. (12:33) I would take all those little pre canned games, and I would I would modify them and
Scott Benner (12:38) yep. (12:38) Yeah. (12:39) Not me. (12:39) I was like, this ain't ready for prime time. (12:41) You know, the next one comes out, and honestly, well, was the Commodore 64 was maybe the next, like, leap there, and it really just played games.
Scott Benner (12:49) But at least it was games, and it kept us into the computer a little bit. (12:52) And then there was they tried to do, like, a a desktop thing where you could open drawers and put files in it. (12:58) It was very visual and not very usable, but it still gave you the idea of, like, oh, something's coming. (13:04) I bought my first iPhone. (13:06) I had no use for it.
Scott Benner (13:08) I literally thought, oh, this is a better way to keep my contacts at that time. (13:13) Like, that's how it felt to buy it, but it also felt like possibility. (13:16) People don't realize till if you took all the apps off your phone, it's a cell phone that text. (13:20) And, like, you know, it's the apps that make your phone. (13:22) Right?
Scott Benner (13:23) And so when they first came out, there were no apps. (13:26) Getting the weather was a big deal on your phone.
Chris (13:29) Right.
Scott Benner (13:29) But still, like, you sit there and think, what's coming? (13:32) There's something. (13:32) I can see where this is going. (13:34) Now a lot of it's problem and crap and, you know, is not adding to your life at all. (13:40) But in that phone somewhere is a great tool.
Scott Benner (13:42) This specifically when I see people struggling to get their basal right or to not even know that the their basal insulin is their problem. (13:52) They don't understand settings. (13:53) They don't understand timing. (13:55) They don't understand diabetes in general. (13:57) Right?
Scott Benner (13:58) They can suffer for weeks, months, years, and a lifetime sometimes. (14:02) Like, you have no idea how quickly it can turn into hopelessness. (14:08) And to say to something one day, hey. (14:11) Look. (14:11) Here's my settings.
Scott Benner (14:13) Here's my graph. (14:14) Like, you probably won't even have to tell it what's happening. (14:16) You'll probably just show it your graph and your settings, and it's gonna make suggestions that'll be better than you would be able to figure out on your own. (14:23) Absolutely. (14:23) I don't know if I'm not seeing people doing that already online, by the way.
Chris (14:26) Yeah. (14:27) Right. (14:28) Abs Yeah. (14:28) There's no question about it. (14:29) That that's where it's gonna be insanely helpful is to consolidate all that information, make it really consumable.
Scott Benner (14:36) I don't tell you that it's gonna be right all the time. (14:40) But even that, even the, what's the rallying cry of people who hated ChatGPT a year ago? (14:46) It hallucinates. (14:47) Right? (14:47) And now we're a year later, and I don't hear people saying that as much anymore.
Chris (14:52) Yep.
Scott Benner (14:52) Right? (14:53) Obviously, you wanna hold the feet to the fire when people are doing stuff. (14:56) You want stuff to be safe and effective and valuable. (14:58) Right? (14:58) And I appreciate the voices that yell, hey.
Scott Benner (15:01) It hallucinates. (15:01) Don't use it right now. (15:02) But I think sometimes those people then plant their flag there, and then it moves forward. (15:08) Anything. (15:08) It doesn't have to be this.
Scott Benner (15:10) And it gets a little better, but they still say, no. (15:12) No. (15:12) It hallucinates. (15:13) I know not that that's been decided already. (15:15) I'm not gonna look at it again.
Scott Benner (15:17) Man, this thing is changing so quickly to make a static decision about it is foolish.
Chris (15:22) Absolutely.
Scott Benner (15:23) Yeah. (15:24) Because it's it's coming hard, man. (15:26) I can't wait to see what you guys can do with this for yourselves. (15:30) You put me out of business. (15:31) Man, my podcast will just turn into, like you know, it'll just be a community thing and probably won't talk much about management in the future for for if you're lucky.
Scott Benner (15:40) You know? (15:40) And and then can't they they I sound like my mom. (15:44) My program's on. (15:45) But can't they, whoever they is, think about, like like, why not put, a tiny little specific part of this into your pump, right, that looks at your graph and looks at your insulin and looks at your outcomes and is making suggestions for you. (16:03) And may and then you can change if you want to.
Scott Benner (16:05) But, you know, then we'll see how long till that works so well that the thing can just be like, hey. (16:09) Here we go. (16:09) Can you imagine if your pump asked you if your phone you had an app on your phone that controls your insulin pump, and you told it, like, look. (16:19) I work Monday through Friday at a desk job, but I'm pretty active on the weekends. (16:24) So keep that in mind when you're adjusting my insulin.
Scott Benner (16:27) And then Friday afternoon ran rolled around and your pump looked at you and said, hey. (16:31) Are you planning on playing pickleball tomorrow like usual or no? (16:34) Because I'm gonna make some adjustments if we're going to.
Chris (16:37) Wow. (16:37) Yeah.
Scott Benner (16:38) How would that be crazy?
Chris (16:40) Yeah. (16:40) Awesome.
Scott Benner (16:40) I don't see that as not being possible at all. (16:43) And the one that I brought up from years ago, three pizza places in your town, three different kinds of pizzas, three different kinds of outcomes. (16:51) Why can't your pump remember geographically? (16:55) Your phone knows where you are. (16:56) When I'm at this location and I tell you I'm having forty five grams, this is my insulin need.
Scott Benner (17:01) And when I'm at that location, I tell you I'm having 45. (17:04) That's my need. (17:05) You don't that that doesn't sound reasonable to you? (17:07) It sounds incredibly reasonable to I just watched my goddamn browser browse my own website and click on stuff.
Chris (17:13) Yep. (17:13) Yeah. (17:14) Yeah. (17:14) We're almost there.
Scott Benner (17:16) Yeah. (17:16) Put me out of business.
Chris (17:18) I don't know, but it's the people. (17:20) I mean, I'll I'll be totally honest. (17:22) I listen to very, very few of the management episodes these days. (17:25) Once in a while, I get through the end of the episode, one rolls on, I'll listen to it. (17:29) But for the most part, I'm here for the people.
Scott Benner (17:32) For the conversation, Sam. (17:33) Yeah. (17:33) I love Well, then I'm good. (17:34) Get to keep my job.
Chris (17:35) That's right. (17:36) That's right.
Scott Benner (17:36) I was gonna have to pivot to, motivational speaking, if not. (17:39) And I have to tell you, I I don't wanna be flying all over the place constantly, so it doesn't sound I mean, although may I tell you something? (17:45) Chris, that's all we're doing is talking to each other. (17:47) Right? (17:48) Yeah.
Scott Benner (17:49) Thinking about how we talked earlier about how different people react to things. (17:54) And you were talking about, like, being, like, either super focused or, you know, whatnot and being overwhelmed. (18:00) And what I clung to in that part of the conversation is, like, coming from chaos and knowing how to deal with it. (18:06) I was in a room yesterday, 600 people in the audience, you know, people on stage. (18:11) It was a big production.
Scott Benner (18:12) There was a lot going on. (18:14) And I really was looking around at everybody, and some people were wide eyed. (18:18) You know? (18:18) Like, just being in the room with so many people made them wide eyed. (18:21) Some of the people that were going up on the stage looked pensive.
Scott Benner (18:24) Some of them looked a little worried. (18:26) You know, they some of them looked like you could see them talking through what they wanted to say in their head before they went up. (18:32) Was really interesting. (18:33) And I sat there like a lion in a cage. (18:36) I was like, come on.
Scott Benner (18:37) Let's go. (18:38) And I did think for a minute, like, what is wrong with me? (18:42) Why am I not, like, reasonably nervous or frightened to do this? (18:47) Like, why I'm just like, get to me. (18:49) I I I'm gonna like, let's let's do it.
Scott Benner (18:52) Let's tell stories. (18:53) Let's try to get people thinking about ways to do better stuff for themselves. (18:56) Like like, I sat in that chair. (18:58) I was like, get me up there. (19:00) Yeah.
Scott Benner (19:00) And I do wonder as you were talking, it made me wonder, like, I grew up with chaos. (19:04) Like, I wonder if I'm not, like like, if that's not a comfortable place for me.
Chris (19:09) Yep.
Scott Benner (19:09) You know?
Chris (19:10) I think that's what we do. (19:11) We find those those things that do make us feel comfortable.
Scott Benner (19:15) Yeah. (19:15) I could not have been more at ease.
Chris (19:17) That's that's amazing. (19:19) Well, I don't know. (19:19) Don't know. (19:20) Like, I
Scott Benner (19:20) was worried for myself. (19:21) Like, it it everyone else seemed to be having what I thought was a more normal reaction to to the experience. (19:27) And I was just like, even when they were like, you know, we have this much time. (19:30) Everyone says that whenever I go to something, they're like, you know, we we have an hour. (19:34) Can you fill it?
Scott Benner (19:35) I'm like, an hour? (19:36) Stop. (19:38) I could sit up there all day if you wanted me to. (19:39) I know if anybody would be interested or not, but I'd be okay with it. (19:42) It it really is something.
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Chris (21:57) Full terms and conditions can be found at omnipod.com/juicebox. (22:02) Yep. (22:03) Yep. (22:03) She's rolling full time and she's in cross country, which is awesome. (22:06) I mean, we've we've got to experience the, having hot lunch and then running for six or seven miles
Scott Benner (22:12) Oh.
Chris (22:13) Within an hour or two later, it's it was, it was interesting adjusting her settings and everything when she first started cross country. (22:19) But she's handled it so unbelievably well. (22:22) She's received a medal. (22:23) She's placed in every single meet this year, and she has her big championship tomorrow.
Scott Benner (22:27) So awesome. (22:27) Hey. (22:28) Well, good luck to her. (22:29) But where were the adjustments that were made?
Chris (22:31) I mean, for the most part, it was getting something in her system after lunch. (22:36) Because what would happen, of course, is she would have a pretty heavy lunch, and then she'd start it would give her a bunch of insulin. (22:43) She would start drifting down, and it Luke just couldn't couldn't catch it. (22:46) She had a little bit too much insulin on board, especially when she's running around like crazy. (22:51) So it was we just started throwing a little protein snack, like an uncovered protein snack in there, and a little bit of drop to the to the basil right after after lunch.
Chris (23:00) And Nice. (23:01) We got her there the last couple. (23:03) She's been totally totally oh, this one this one was actually good, though. (23:06) She was doing her time travel thing, which is at the beginning of cross country, you run a mile and you time it. (23:13) And then at the end of cross country, you do the same thing to see how much you've improved.
Chris (23:17) And I had been watching her graph. (23:19) I'm like, oh, she's going to need something. (23:22) So I'm like, I call her. (23:23) She doesn't answer. (23:24) I'm like, oh, I'll call her again.
Chris (23:25) Then about two minutes later, I I get a text saying I'm all set. (23:29) Then she comes home and she's like, dad, I did it. (23:31) I shaved a minute off my time. (23:33) She ran a mile in seven minutes and forty eight seconds, which is insane at 10 years old.
Scott Benner (23:39) Goodness.
Chris (23:39) Then she's like, oh, by the way, thanks for calling me right in the middle of it. (23:44) And I was like, really? (23:45) I called you right in the middle of it? (23:46) And she's like, yeah. (23:47) But she's like, it's okay.
Chris (23:48) I just I shut it off, and I I grabbed my Smarties, and, you know, I just kept going. (23:52) And I'm like, so you ignored my call and treated it low and shaved a minute off your mile.
Scott Benner (23:59) Yeah.
Chris (23:59) Like, that's
Scott Benner (24:00) How old?
Chris (24:01) That's mind blowing.
Scott Benner (24:02) How old is she now?
Chris (24:03) She's she's still 10. (24:04) She'll be 11 in a month and a half. (24:06) Yep.
Scott Benner (24:06) That's awesome. (24:07) She's got your way about her. (24:09) Does that make sense?
Chris (24:10) Yeah. (24:11) No. (24:11) I know exactly what you mean.
Scott Benner (24:12) Yeah. (24:12) Yeah. (24:12) No. (24:13) She's real chill and kind, and she was funny and sarcastic and smart. (24:19) Oh.
Scott Benner (24:19) She's a really great mix.
Chris (24:20) I I I I gotta be honest with you. (24:23) When she first of all, she told you that joke. (24:25) I don't know if you remember it, the long one with the all the animals and the brick hitting the girl in the head.
Scott Benner (24:29) Yes. (24:30) And the joke was that she made me listen to it. (24:32) Am I right?
Chris (24:33) Essentially, right. (24:34) Because you, you know, it like, you missed the whole thing a lot. (24:36) When she's between that and then when she gave the whole fake disease, do you remember when she mentioned that?
Scott Benner (24:41) That I remember. (24:42) She made up a disease that she had. (24:44) Yeah. (24:44) It strung me along.
Chris (24:46) I literally I fell to the floor laughing when I heard that. (24:49) I'm like and she she nailed it so effortlessly. (24:52) Like, when when she said when you responded and said that she was gonna be on the podcast, I'm like, Emma, you gotta come up with something good. (24:57) You know, I was just trying to make her be more comfortable.
Scott Benner (24:59) Sure.
Chris (25:00) And I was like, come up with a good joke to tell. (25:03) And she's like, what if I tell them that I have pneumonology microscopic silico volcaniconiosis? (25:08) And I was like, you're gonna be able to do that? (25:09) And I said, you gotta do it, but at the end of it, you gotta you gotta really drop it. (25:13) You gotta be like, oh, no.
Chris (25:14) No. (25:15) No. (25:15) I'm just messing with you. (25:16) And the way she just flawlessly dropped the f bomb right there. (25:20) I'm like, how?
Chris (25:21) This kid needs to be a stand up comedian. (25:23) I
Scott Benner (25:23) mean Oh, she's she's really lovely. (25:26) Now if you've raised her on this homestead in Maine, I don't know if she's gonna talk to enough people or not. (25:30) Do you live on that property now or do you is it just a property you own?
Chris (25:33) No. (25:33) We we live about an hour away. (25:35) About a half an hour away. (25:36) We live in in Brewer, which actually, she mentioned that she lived on on a river. (25:40) We live in, we live right on the Penobscot River, which is the big river in Maine.
Scott Benner (25:44) Okay.
Chris (25:45) So, yeah, we we but we live close to people. (25:48) So we're kind of in the woods. (25:49) Like, we've got, a couple acres of property and, like I said, woods and goes down to the river, and we have chickens. (25:54) But we're also, like, ten minutes from the airport.
Scott Benner (25:58) Wait. (25:59) Did you say the Penobscot River?
Chris (26:01) Yeah. (26:01) The Penobscot River.
Scott Benner (26:02) What seventies TV character had that last name?
Chris (26:06) Penobscot?
Scott Benner (26:08) Hold on a second. (26:09) People are like, oh, great. (26:10) Another reference I don't know. (26:12) It's Happy Days or? (26:14) Oh god, what's it gonna be?
Scott Benner (26:16) A Lauren and Shirley mash. (26:19) Was Okay.
Chris (26:20) Mash. (26:20) Damn. (26:20) Mash.
Scott Benner (26:21) Yes. (26:21) Yes. (26:22) Margaret marries a guy named, Donald Panopscott. (26:27) Wow.
Chris (26:28) No way. (26:29) There's gotta
Scott Benner (26:29) be somebody had to have grown up near that river road on that TV show.
Chris (26:32) Well, it it I mean, Penobscot is the one of the the Indian tribes here in Maine. (26:36) Is it? (26:36) I didn't realize. (26:37) Oh, okay.
Scott Benner (26:38) Yeah. (26:38) Alright. (26:38) Well, now we're learning stuff finally.
Chris (26:39) The Penobscot Indians. (26:41) Yeah.
Scott Benner (26:42) Well, now we're learning stuff. (26:43) The people are like, I always learn something new. (26:45) Now you know that. (26:46) I don't know what you're gonna do with it, but God bless you. (26:47) Good.
Scott Benner (26:48) Great. (26:48) What else you got on your list there?
Chris (26:51) So things that I can oh, oh, oh, she mentioned that she had her crush coming over. (26:55) You were asking her about boys and Yeah. (26:57) And and she told you her her sneaky plan to get her her friend to break up with her crush. (27:05) Mhmm. (27:05) And that way that she could slide in and have her chance.
Chris (27:07) Well, I just wanna say that that was that was successful. (27:10) She waited her time. (27:11) She didn't intervene, and it all worked out. (27:14) The crush is now is now her, you know, 10 year old boyfriend, and he's a great kid.
Scott Benner (27:18) She she's a home wrecker?
Chris (27:20) She is well, but but she did she's not because she waited her time. (27:23) She didn't say anything until after they broke up, and then then she went in for her chance.
Scott Benner (27:27) Yeah. (27:28) No kidding.
Chris (27:28) Look at her.
Scott Benner (27:29) Yeah. (27:30) Is that awesome?
Chris (27:30) Yeah. (27:31) She said I could share that. (27:33) And then let's see. (27:36) Oh, she mentioned she mentioned PPODS, which was it's a local, like, diabetes organization in the area.
Scott Benner (27:42) Okay.
Chris (27:43) That's something that she does with with a bunch of her friends, and it's really cool around here. (27:46) So her endocrinologist and the CDE, they're all involved in it, and they they do, like, summer camp events. (27:53) They we had a Brett Michaels concert. (27:55) Didn't know Brett Michaels had type one.
Scott Benner (27:56) Oh, no kidding. (27:57) You didn't know that?
Chris (27:58) No. (27:59) I had no idea.
Scott Benner (27:59) Oh, okay.
Chris (28:00) I I no. (28:01) I I didn't even know he was the lead singer of Poison, though I like Poison. (28:04) I had no idea. (28:05) I I don't follow I didn't follow it that closely. (28:07) But we went there and went to the concert, and right up toward the front of the stage, there was a a group of, you know, a group of us there that were from it was like a type one fundraiser.
Chris (28:17) And he saw her CGM, drag her up on stage, and had a whole thing about type one diabetes. (28:23) And it was so awesome for all of those kids to see this, like, totally normalized and to be able to to to rock out with with all it it was fantastic.
Scott Benner (28:32) Oh, that's nice.
Chris (28:33) I just wanted to throw a shout out for the the PPODS organization here in Maine. (28:37) Absolutely fantastic.
Scott Benner (28:38) Yeah. (28:38) Oh, that's lovely. (28:39) Good for them. (28:39) It's a a local org.
Chris (28:41) Yeah. (28:42) Yeah. (28:42) Yep. (28:42) That's right. (28:43) Isn't that nice?
Scott Benner (28:44) People see, there's plenty of people doing nice stuff.
Chris (28:47) Absolutely.
Scott Benner (28:48) There's a few people who aren't, but that's fine. (28:50) We can overcome that, maybe.
Chris (28:52) For sure.
Scott Benner (28:53) How do you expect her to progress through this? (28:56) Do you imagine there's gonna be a time of rebellion, or what do you think?
Chris (29:00) Well, I don't know. (29:02) I mean, she she does she's really good at caring about taking care of herself. (29:07) She doesn't let it get her down very often, but I imagine there's definitely gonna be times that she struggles. (29:12) You know, sometimes, like, there's the food struggles where she'll she really wants something. (29:18) She'll be like, oh, I'm so hungry.
Chris (29:19) I want, you know, I want a doughnut. (29:20) Let's go get some ice cream. (29:21) And she'll look at her blood sugar, she'll be like, oh, it's too high. (29:25) We can't do it. (29:26) And so one of the things we work on a lot is, like, showing her, like, we know how to use insulin and helping her get through that type of stuff.
Chris (29:34) But I'm sure that at some point, that that's something I I think she'll probably struggle with is, like, that balance of having to do this extra thing that most people don't have to deal with, which is hopefully, as the technology goes grows, that that won't even be an issue.
Scott Benner (29:47) Yeah. (29:48) You know, I talked to a gentleman recently talking about his college aged son, and he said the saddest thing. (29:53) His his son told him, dad, I'm here for a good time, not a long time.
Chris (29:58) Oh. (29:58) It
Scott Benner (29:59) made me sad. (30:00) Oh. (30:00) Yeah. (30:00) It made him I I he looked sad as well. (30:03) Yeah.
Scott Benner (30:04) And I he's like, do you have anything to offer me? (30:06) And I said, I I would maybe try to get him to listen to the Small Stips episodes. (30:10) I was like, they're really short. (30:11) They're like, it's a packed one thing, one idea. (30:15) It should be short enough for a, you know, a teenager to listen to.
Scott Benner (30:19) And I was like, and you're probably paying for college. (30:20) So and just tell him if he wants to keep going to college, you could just listen to these real quick and see if, you know, you can take something from him. (30:25) Because how do you change someone's mindset who just thinks, I'm not gonna live very long because of this?
Chris (30:32) We we know people somewhat close to us that are that are in that kind of boat where they just they grow up in a different time with different technology and a different support structure, and that's that's their general attitude. (30:42) I mean, e even Emma sees it, and she's like, that that's really sad. (30:46) She's like, because I'm gonna live a normal life. (30:48) And I love that she has that perspective of you know, she knows, hey. (30:50) If I take care of myself, hopefully, it's gonna just be something other than diabetes against me.
Scott Benner (30:54) I don't understand the not fighting to be here thing.
Chris (30:58) Yeah.
Scott Benner (30:58) That that that to me is strange. (31:00) I'm I'm doing everything I can to, you know, stay here longer. (31:05) That would seem like job one to me, but I guess not for everybody or maybe there's a little I don't know if there's depression. (31:10) I don't know the kid, obviously, if there's depression mixed in or maybe just had a bad time and just doesn't see the way out. (31:15) You know, I I there's been plenty of episodes.
Scott Benner (31:18) I don't even remember the episode number anymore, but this guy came on one time and talked about how he's great. (31:24) I still I keep in contact with him still, but he was looking for help online and somebody pointed him to me, and we talked privately on the phone. (31:32) And then, you know, things just started getting better for him and, you know, he changed his life and and, you know, back to school to do something else. (31:40) He does something really kind for people now as his as, you know, as his profession. (31:44) But, you know, he comes to the podcast a long time after we actually spoke privately and confided in me, I guess, in everybody listening that he'd had a plan to end his life.
Scott Benner (31:56) He was getting ready to enact a plan to end his life. (31:59) It's not a thing he wanted to do. (32:00) He just had he was hopeless about his diabetes and and everything. (32:05) You know, I just I make the point that I don't you just don't know what people are going through. (32:09) You know?
Scott Benner (32:09) So it's it's easy to say, like, you know, the kids said I'm here for, you know, a good time, not a long time. (32:15) Is he joking? (32:16) Does he feel that way? (32:17) Is he scared? (32:18) Is there something that's going on that the the parents don't know about?
Scott Benner (32:21) Maybe there's something happened to him he's not even aware of. (32:24) You know? (32:24) Right. (32:25) But and try not to judge anybody, but I I do still tell you that I, from my personal perspective, I can't understand not holding on with every last fingertip and searching. (32:37) But I don't know.
Scott Benner (32:37) You know, people's minds all work differently.
Chris (32:39) With you. (32:40) For sure.
Scott Benner (32:41) Tell Emma, I'm gonna try to keep this podcast going for a decade longer so that I can interview her when she's in college.
Chris (32:49) She wanted me to make sure that that she had an invite back again even though you told her very clearly before she had a great time. (32:55) So, yeah, keep keep doing that.
Scott Benner (32:57) Let's wait until she starts to, become a lady and I know what she means. (33:01) Stops talking to you as much. (33:03) And then, like, right in there, when she gets super sure of herself but has no actual content to back up her ideas, that's when I'd like to talk to her next and then in college after that.
Chris (33:12) Fantastic.
Scott Benner (33:13) Absolutely. (33:14) Yeah. (33:14) No. (33:15) It's well, I I there's a couple of people who come on at, like, intervals in their life, and I think it's, it's super interesting to visit back with them sometimes and see where they've gotten to and what's happened.
Chris (33:27) Actually, you know, this girl that was on one
Scott Benner (33:29) of the after darks, she was a an exotic dancer. (33:32) I'd like to have her back on too.
Chris (33:34) Oh, yeah. (33:34) I've heard that one.
Scott Benner (33:35) Wish she'll hear this. (33:37) Anyway, am I leaving anything out? (33:39) How am I doing?
Chris (33:40) Awesome. (33:41) A couple of the things that I wanted to mention is that you guys talked a little bit about the books I have in my toilet. (33:46) And then one of them she said a bunch of them are yours, but, of course, one of them is yours. (33:49) And I just wanted to say that,
Scott Benner (33:51) I love that book.
Chris (33:52) Like, for real, that that's one of that book, in my mind, helped me set the stage for how I am as a dad. (33:59) It's given me a lot of great ideas. (34:01) And the story you tell in there about you and Cole heading to Obama's inauguration, oh, man.
Scott Benner (34:06) Oh.
Chris (34:07) That is I recall that story all the time.
Scott Benner (34:09) No kidding.
Chris (34:09) I just wanted to say thank yeah. (34:10) Thank you a ton for writing that book and talking about it on the podcast because it it it it really is. (34:16) I keep it there on my toilet because, you know, that's that's actually probably what I read the most.
Scott Benner (34:20) Don't sit too long. (34:21) They say it's not good.
Chris (34:22) Oh, yeah. (34:23) No. (34:23) That's that's true. (34:24) Well, it's
Scott Benner (34:24) a You only sit down when you have to go. (34:25) Okay?
Chris (34:26) It's it's a short book. (34:28) Big font. (34:28) So I get through it pretty quickly.
Scott Benner (34:29) There's no deep thoughts in there that, that needed extra words. (34:32) But, personally, that's lovely of you to say, and and I feel honored that that you that you said that genuinely. (34:37) And and you reminded me of something that happened to me yesterday up on that stage when I finally got up there. (34:43) So for the biggest game that I talk and I'm not certainly, I'm not overblowing it, I really was sitting there like, let me up there. (34:50) I know I'm good at this.
Scott Benner (34:51) Like, let me get going. (34:52) Once I get up there and they start laying out my, you know, I don't know what you would even call it, like, you know, describing, you know, the podcast and and things that it's done and people it's reached and everything, I get very I've, the humility hits me really quickly. (35:09) Like, I don't know if it's because I you know, the way I grew up, if I don't feel like I belong in that situation. (35:13) Like, I I you know, I don't don't have a therapist to tell me what it is, but I I'm guessing it's one of these things. (35:19) Right?
Scott Benner (35:19) But, you know, they introduced me and then they asked me to tell him you know, talk about how I got to this spot. (35:27) Like, you know, like, what's the pathway that this whole thing took? (35:30) And I got all done and the one of the gentlemen that was interviewing me said, you know, like, he looked out in the audience. (35:36) He goes, Scott is is being very, very humble right now. (35:39) And I thought, no.
Scott Benner (35:40) I'm not. (35:41) Like, I'm not. (35:42) I I am not doing that. (35:44) I'm not up there, like, consciously trying to be like, oh, no. (35:46) No.
Scott Benner (35:47) No. (35:47) No. (35:47) Like, you know what I mean? (35:48) Like like, or or trying to come off as I wasn't trying to come off as humble. (35:52) I wasn't trying to give them a feeling that it was something that I'm not I know what this podcast does.
Scott Benner (35:58) Right? (35:58) I see what happens in the community. (36:00) I'm really grateful that it worked out that way. (36:04) Don't I feel like I can take credit for it. (36:06) Like, I just think I'm being myself and this sort of happened.
Chris (36:11) And You call that impostor syndrome. (36:12) Right?
Scott Benner (36:12) I guess so. (36:13) Right? (36:14) Yeah. (36:14) Yeah. (36:14) Or but I mean, is that important really?
Scott Benner (36:16) Like, do I is it important for me for you to say that and then I tell you, oh, yeah. (36:21) Yeah. (36:22) I did that's what I did. (36:23) I did that on purpose. (36:24) Like, know what I mean?
Scott Benner (36:24) I wrote that book like that so you'd have that feeling like, I by the way, I did, but I don't feel that way Right. (36:31) If that makes any sense. (36:32) And I know it doesn't. (36:34) Like, it to hear you go go ahead. (36:37) Say respond.
Scott Benner (36:37) I'm sorry.
Chris (36:38) No. (36:38) I was just gonna say, like, I get you, and I I feel the same way, like, in in what I do for a career. (36:44) Like, many days, I don't believe, like, that I do something and I get congratulated for what I did or thanked for it. (36:50) I'm just like, I was either just doing my job or sometimes I'm like, I don't even I don't believe I even really did that. (36:55) Like, how did I do that?
Chris (36:56) Like, I I kind of I think I relate to a similar feeling.
Scott Benner (37:00) Yeah. (37:00) It it's funny because in my heart, like, I'm I'm fully capable of giving myself credit. (37:07) Like, it's in front of other people where I don't want that. (37:10) Yeah. (37:10) Here here's the other side of it.
Scott Benner (37:12) And I have a podcast, so I have to talk. (37:14) Right? (37:14) So everything is happening right now. (37:16) If you're being helped by the Facebook group or the thing I'm trying in the circle group or this podcast or something else that I've done, I want you to know I did it all very intentionally and on purpose. (37:28) I didn't have a plan when I started, but I am really good at seeing where the road is going and running up ahead.
Scott Benner (37:33) And in any time I've done something that's been a failure or not worked out, I just pivot. (37:38) I stay flexible and I go, okay. (37:39) That didn't work or it didn't resonate with them or whatnot. (37:42) Like, I still think the grand round series is awesome, and it doesn't get listened to as much as it should. (37:47) You know?
Scott Benner (37:47) That's not what a mass of people want. (37:49) It downloaded well, but it didn't download the way I think it should. (37:52) Then I pivoted off to something else. (37:53) I said, okay. (37:54) If they don't want that information this way, I'll find another way to get it to them.
Scott Benner (37:58) I'm making a compilation now, and I've been at this for two years, compiling people's struggles. (38:05) Right? (38:06) I'm right now in the middle of just imagining how to conversate around their struggles that will be most valuable back to them. (38:14) Like like, do I break them down into mental health, management, you know, other ideas and then find a partner to talk about each one of those things with and deliver them back like that? (38:26) It would it be better if I mixed it into conversation and just hope that they found it?
Scott Benner (38:30) And I'm gonna figure out what the best way to go is. (38:33) But what I figured out was, is it between talking to people and then watching them online and then outright asking them, I was able to build a comprehensive list of things that people with type one diabetes struggle with. (38:46) And once you have that list, there's a way to help them with it. (38:50) And now I gotta find a way to deliver it in a way that they'll receive better than they receive their grand rounds. (38:55) Maybe even the grand rounds, maybe it was just the name.
Scott Benner (38:57) Like, I don't even know. (38:58) Like, maybe people don't know what that means or or care or maybe it seemed overly medical before they dove in. (39:05) Like, I don't know. (39:06) But that series, it's a how to for doctors and a what to ask for for patients. (39:10) It's for both people, and I think it's really valuable.
Scott Benner (39:13) And I've heard back from people that it's valuable. (39:15) It just didn't catch on the way it should have. (39:17) The small sips scared me too. (39:19) Like, everybody's like, people need shorter form content. (39:22) I was like, alright.
Scott Benner (39:23) You put a ton of effort into distilling the pro tips and the bold beginning series into the small sip series, and I don't see people sharing it the way I expected them to. (39:32) So maybe they are and I can't see it. (39:33) I don't know. (39:34) But, like, I'm constantly, like, working towards that on purpose. (39:39) Oh.
Scott Benner (39:40) But I but if you sat down in front of a group, like, I can say it to you because you can consciously forget for a second that other people are gonna hear it. (39:47) But if you put me in front of those 600 people again and told me to say this, I'd be like, oh, I'm just doing my best. (39:52) Like, that's how it would come out. (39:54) You know?
Chris (39:55) Yeah. (39:55) I mean, it's been great to see where you started and and where you've taken it. (39:59) It's awesome. (40:00) I I hope you keep making it for however many more years because it's, I'll I'll definitely keep listening, and it's it's been very valuable to us and lots of people that we know. (40:09) I mean, I I share it as much as possible.
Chris (40:10) Some people just don't like podcasts.
Scott Benner (40:12) Yeah. (40:13) But By the way, they think they don't.
Chris (40:15) Yeah. (40:16) You're right.
Scott Benner (40:17) I hear two things. (40:17) Right? (40:18) I hear my brain doesn't work that way. (40:21) And I would tell you, I get it, but just listen passively and you'll pick things up you don't even realize, but that's a hard thing to explain to people. (40:29) I did pass an entire psychology class in high school by sleeping through it.
Scott Benner (40:33) I must have heard something while I was asleep. (40:35) That's a great story. (40:36) I feel like I've told it before, but I got the best score on the final and I slept through that class every day.
Chris (40:42) That's amazing.
Scott Benner (40:42) And now I look back and think it's possible I was anemic then too and I didn't realize it. (40:47) But Wow. (40:47) Nevertheless, I think listen passively. (40:50) Don't put your I think some people's brains tell them that they're supposed to sit down, listen, and know a thing when it's over. (40:56) Right.
Scott Benner (40:56) And I just don't think that that needs to be the way. (40:59) So just listen in the background. (41:01) You'll pick stuff up eventually. (41:02) It'll start making sense. (41:03) I teach myself I'm looking at this little tiny lizard I have over here in this little tiny cage.
Scott Benner (41:08) Okay? (41:09) And I know you're like, oh, it's chameleons. (41:10) No. (41:10) There's a couple others. (41:11) It's called a a Sri Lankan pygmy lizard.
Scott Benner (41:15) There's a pair of them in there. (41:17) Not many people breed them. (41:18) And as a matter of fact, I believe they're on a SIDES list now. (41:21) You can't get them out of Sri Lanka anymore. (41:22) So the ones that are here are the ones that are.
Scott Benner (41:25) They breed. (41:26) So I don't have any desire to be in the reptile breeding business. (41:30) I guess unless you guys want my Sri Lankan pygmy lizards, then hit me up, I guess, and I'll I'll ship it to you. (41:35) It would be easier than driving them back to the brooder, which is what I do is I take them back to the guy that made mine. (41:40) And I'm like, look.
Scott Benner (41:41) You know, I know you're gonna sell these and make some money, but right on, like, just take them. (41:44) You know? (41:44) Mhmm. (41:45) I just want them to go out and have other people, you know, enjoy them and hopefully, you know, maybe there'll be more of them one day. (41:51) But there's the guy's got, like, a twenty minute care video about them.
Scott Benner (41:58) So I listen to it once, and then I don't know what I'm doing. (42:02) And I listen to it twice, and I don't know what I'm doing. (42:04) I listen to it three times. (42:05) I don't know what I'm doing. (42:05) If you ask me right now to give you the parameters for keeping this thing, I don't know that I could rattle them back to you, but I am taking great care of them.
Scott Benner (42:14) Right. (42:14) And and I kind I know that sounds strange, but I think that diabetes can be like that to some degree. (42:19) You know? (42:20) Just hear stuff over and over and over again, and maybe just in the moment, you'll do the right thing.
Chris (42:26) Absolutely.
Scott Benner (42:26) If that sounds hocus pocus y to people, I would understand. (42:29) But I think that's real. (42:31) And I think I've interviewed enough people who've said things like, I listen to the podcast. (42:35) I'm not really good with numbers, but I'm doing really well. (42:38) And they don't know why.
Scott Benner (42:39) Or people have said, like, I already knew how to do all this, but listening to the podcast keeps me background focused without being front brain focused. (42:48) I don't know how to explain all of it. (42:50) I just see it works.
Chris (42:52) So that that's actually a really good point. (42:54) So I have an engineering background even though, as Emma would say, I'm terrible at math and I'm a big college dropout. (43:00) The way you broke it down helped me so much because I was so focused on I remember the first time that I'm like, I gave 1.4 units last time, and it worked out perfect. (43:09) And I gave it today, and it didn't work. (43:11) And or, you know, this plate of food is supposed to be this much.
Chris (43:15) Like, I was so tied to rules that hearing the, like, you know, I just look at it, I'm like, it's a unit or it's four units. (43:23) Like, just that sort of swag, that loose way of doing it, that mixed with my wife is much more that way of just, like, laid back when it comes to the stuff. (43:32) Like, let's just try it and see how it works.
Scott Benner (43:34) Yeah.
Chris (43:35) That's so powerful for me. (43:38) Like, that that helped me so much to be able to just not have to adhere to the rules that that, you know, computers and and everything else have to adhere to. (43:47) That it's just be flexible and and figure it out as you go. (43:51) Isn't it
Scott Benner (43:51) funny that's the first time somebody's used the word swag more like swagger? (43:55) And, it made a lot of sense to me when you said it that way.
Chris (43:58) Oh, swag is is scientific wild ass guess in the IT community.
Scott Benner (44:02) I know it is. (44:03) Yeah. (44:03) Actually Okay. (44:03) But that's not my point. (44:04) My point is is that, like, that's how it's always used.
Scott Benner (44:07) And that one time when you said it, I thought it was more like I imagined myself being like, yeah. (44:11) I don't know. (44:12) It's, like, about this much. (44:13) And that almost felt like swagger. (44:15) And I thought yeah.
Scott Benner (44:16) Yeah. (44:16) Yeah. (44:17) And, that's interesting, really, to me. (44:20) I don't know if it's interesting to anybody else listening.
Chris (44:21) Yeah. (44:22) Well well, as as you grow that, it that's kinda what it becomes. (44:25) Right? (44:25) Like, you almost have, like, a swagger of, oh, yeah. (44:27) It's just this much.
Chris (44:28) Just just do this. (44:29) I mean, that's the relationship we have with it now. (44:32) It's just sort of like, we look at it and we're like, I don't know. (44:35) It's somewhere around that. (44:36) And I mean, obviously, a well tuned algorithm helps with that a significant amount.
Chris (44:41) Mhmm. (44:41) But, yeah, that that's kind of how we approach it.
Scott Benner (44:44) A lot of people are gonna know, you I was having this conversation yesterday with somebody kinda off to the side, and I was like, you know, you can't raise a person on this technology and then make it hard for them to get to it sometimes. (44:57) Like, you either give it to them and they can always have it or it's not always available. (45:01) But, like, there are people coming up in diabetes right now, and the extent of their understanding of diabetes is that I put that thing on and that thing on, and the thing does the thing and I'm okay.
Chris (45:11) Right.
Scott Benner (45:11) Right? (45:11) And so going back almost full circle here, you know, your care team telling you it needs to be a year, I think that's what they're talking about. (45:19) We want people to understand it, you know, sticks and stones, nuts and bolts in case it all, like, you know, reverts back that way. (45:26) I just don't think it's actually gonna revert back that way. (45:28) But you could lose your insurance.
Scott Benner (45:30) You could I guess that's how it could end up reverting back, and then you're not gonna know what to do. (45:35) I do think it's possible to teach people what to do when they have the tools, But then maybe you run into a a human limitation where they're gonna say, I don't really need to know this now because the thing does the thing. (45:48) So there's a lot of arguments. (45:49) I find myself somewhere between worried like Jenny is. (45:53) Jenny's like, I'm afraid that people aren't gonna understand what they're doing and hopeful about the technology the way I am.
Scott Benner (46:00) Like, I'm trying to draw myself more to the center on that. (46:03) And I've been doing I've been working on that for a couple of years actually not to just, like, say, no. (46:06) The thing works. (46:07) Like, it'll be great Because I mean, look at me. (46:09) You saw me with the GitHub.
Scott Benner (46:10) I don't know what I'm doing with that.
Chris (46:12) And it works.
Scott Benner (46:13) Yeah. (46:13) Yeah. (46:13) But it works. (46:14) So good. (46:14) And if I really get stuck, you know, I'm lucky enough to be able to reach out to find people who do understand it.
Scott Benner (46:19) But that's not a real answer because if all those people disappear, what am I supposed to do all of a sudden? (46:25) You know what I mean? (46:26) I won't know what to do. (46:27) Now could I figure it out? (46:29) This to me is the last step of that.
Scott Benner (46:31) I think I could. (46:33) Right. (46:33) Could everybody? (46:34) I don't think that's the case. (46:35) I don't think I'm special, but I think you're dealing with all levels of financial support, emotional support, intellectual backing.
Scott Benner (46:43) Like, there's a lot of different kinds of people. (46:46) So I don't know I don't think there's an answer answer. (46:49) I just think these are things that we have to keep in mind while we're trying to help people and while they're trying to help themselves.
Chris (46:55) Definitely.
Scott Benner (46:55) Okay.
Chris (46:57) So one one last thing.
Scott Benner (46:58) Yeah. (46:58) What do you got?
Chris (46:59) So Emma called me a big college dropout.
Scott Benner (47:02) Must have been lovely to hear.
Chris (47:04) It was. (47:05) It was. (47:05) It was absolutely fantastic. (47:06) And, which which I am, and I boasted. (47:09) I and not only did I drop off from college once, but I dropped off from college three different times, so it's really drives the point home.
Chris (47:16) But didn't slow me down. (47:18) Whatever. (47:19) So and then she called me skinny and weak. (47:21) I think you would ask something about, like, is your dad a big strong guy because he's out in the woods? (47:25) And she's like, no.
Chris (47:26) He's actually really skinny and weak. (47:28) So I just had to give my rebuttal. (47:30) So what I have to say to Emma is that, Emma, I'm very, very proud of you. (47:36) You're an amazing young young lady, and I am so excited to see what you're gonna do as you move forward. (47:42) And I'll I'll save the actual ribbing and and and whatnot for the next time we fight.
Scott Benner (47:46) Very nice. (47:47) No. (47:48) You're lovely. (47:48) You're a good dad, man.
Chris (47:50) Thanks. (47:51) I really appreciate it. (47:52) And and and so so are you. (47:53) I've been hearing your stories forever, and they they definitely influence my my dad decisions on a daily basis.
Scott Benner (47:58) I can't tell you how much that means to me. (48:00) It really does. (48:01) Good. (48:02) I'll try to break through the feeling for a second one more time and tell you that I've never been able to kinda quantify it more than to say that things occur to me when crisis comes up, when there's problems, when there's something to get accomplished. (48:15) More often than not, the thing that I think to do works out.
Scott Benner (48:19) I don't know another way to put that because I can't take credit for any of it. (48:22) I don't think things through the way you imagine thinking things through. (48:26) I just look at things and something pops into my head. (48:29) And more often than not, that thing works. (48:33) And even as a younger person, people would come to me for all kinds of advice and I never understood why.
Scott Benner (48:40) I genuinely never understood why. (48:41) I was not a I didn't have money. (48:43) I didn't have any kind of, you know, position in the world, anything at all. (48:47) And yet people around me would always ask what I thought about stuff. (48:51) And they'd come back and say, hey.
Scott Benner (48:53) That really worked out for me. (48:55) I remember one time, my wife was managing a movie theater and there were kids working there that were, like, 16, 18. (49:01) We were probably in our, like, early twenties. (49:03) And this kid was like, I'm I'm always spending all of my money. (49:07) He's like, I just he's like, I I and these ATM machines were a little newer back then.
Scott Benner (49:11) He's like, I'm always going to the ATM machine, getting out a couple of bucks, and spending it before I know it all my money is gone. (49:16) Would you have any advice about that? (49:17) Now advice, well, I didn't have any money. (49:19) I didn't know anything about anything. (49:20) You know?
Scott Benner (49:21) And I said, yeah. (49:22) Only take out $20 when you go to the ATM. (49:25) And he's like, wait. (49:26) Your advice is to spend more money? (49:28) I said, no.
Scott Benner (49:28) My advice is when you go to the ATM, only take out a 20. (49:31) Never take out less than 20 because this wasn't a kid who had a ton of money, $20 was a big chunk of it. (49:36) You know? (49:37) A couple months later, he comes back to me. (49:39) He goes, hey.
Scott Benner (49:39) I've been saving money. (49:40) I'm doing great. (49:41) I was like, oh, yeah. (49:41) I said, how how's it going? (49:43) Like, what what'd you do?
Scott Benner (49:43) And he goes, I just did a thing where, you know, I only take out a 20. (49:48) And I was like, oh, cool. (49:49) And I just walked I was like, that's great. (49:51) Like, I don't really know what to do after that. (49:53) Was like, alright.
Scott Benner (49:53) Right on, man. (49:54) I'm like, go clean up the popcorn, you know, to, like, relationship stuff and, like, everything in between. (50:00) Like, I don't know. (50:01) Like, when something goes wrong, I seem to know what to do and it translated into parenthood for me somehow. (50:08) And then as I try to be reflective about it, the only thing I can kinda come up with is that it just all seems like common sense stuff to me.
Scott Benner (50:16) I don't really feel like it's anything special. (50:19) I read the meditations from Marcus Aurelius recently. (50:23) It it just seems like common sense to me, but, you know, a long time ago. (50:28) Or or, you know, you read a collection. (50:30) There's this collection of Ben Franklin quotes that he he wrote under a pen name and read them.
Scott Benner (50:35) I think they're called poor rich it's like poor Richard's almanac.
Chris (50:38) I've read those. (50:38) Yeah.
Scott Benner (50:38) Yeah. (50:39) It's common sense.
Chris (50:40) A 100%.
Scott Benner (50:41) Yeah. (50:41) It is. (50:42) Now I don't know why some people have it and some people don't. (50:44) I that I couldn't begin to explain to you, but it's not some deep secret. (50:48) Like, like I said to somebody yesterday, they said, well, how come so many people have good outcomes after listening to the podcast?
Scott Benner (50:53) Like, what are you telling them that other people aren't telling them? (50:55) I'm like, nothing special.
Chris (50:56) It feels that way. (50:57) Right? (50:57) Like, it feels like common sense. (50:59) I feel the same way. (51:00) Like, I I don't know how I do most of what I do, but I'm also a person that people often come to for advice, and I'm always confused.
Chris (51:07) Like, why me? (51:09) But like you said, most of the things I've done, like, they just kinda seem to work out. (51:14) Actually, that common sense topic, one of the other books on my toilet is Robert I think it's Robert Fulgum. (51:20) It's Everything I Needed to Know I Learned in Kindergarten Mhmm. (51:23) Which is common sense.
Chris (51:24) The whole thing is literally him talking about how like, all the difficult things in life, it's just use common sense.
Scott Benner (51:29) Yeah.
Chris (51:30) But most people, common sense isn't common as it seems.
Scott Benner (51:33) Yeah. (51:33) I guess that's a saying for a reason, but I would wonder why. (51:37) Yeah. (51:38) Everyone has the intellect and the brainpower to run those their basic ideas. (51:42) Right.
Scott Benner (51:42) You don't even have to remember them. (51:44) You just have to have a a decision making tree that lends that leads you to that spot. (51:49) Right? (51:50) Like, this is happening. (51:51) What do I do?
Scott Benner (51:51) How do I do it spending the least amount of effort, the least amount of time, the least amount of money? (51:56) That's probably the best way to get through it. (51:57) If it's not, then why not? (51:58) Like, what did removing time out of it? (52:01) Is that maybe I should have thought about it longer?
Scott Benner (52:03) Taking money out of it? (52:04) It would have been easier with better materials. (52:06) Like, but that doesn't happen in front of me. (52:09) Right. (52:09) Like, in front of my eyes.
Scott Benner (52:10) I don't see the decision tree. (52:11) I don't hear the words. (52:13) I just I get to the end, and that's the answer. (52:15) And and if it's not right, then you reapply it, and it seems to work the next time. (52:20) Yeah.
Scott Benner (52:21) It is almost like watching that chat GPT go through the the website. (52:25) Like, I don't know exactly what it was doing, but it was taking the steps that it should have and it got to the end and it did the thing it said it was gonna do. (52:31) And I couldn't figure out what it was doing. (52:33) And maybe that's how it feels to people when they listen to You or Me sometimes or why that dumb book I wrote seems so important to you.
Chris (52:40) That dumb book you wrote.
Scott Benner (52:42) Chris, you have no idea. (52:43) I was approached by a publisher to write a diabetes book, and I immediately said, I should not be writing a diabetes book. (52:51) That's ridiculous. (52:52) I was like, I talk about it, and I give people, this is what I think, and they tell me what they think, and it's conversational. (52:59) It's meant to build a community, and then I you know, for people to draw out of it what they want.
Scott Benner (53:02) I'm like, I don't know how to sit down a to b and tell you how to do it. (53:05) You don't want me. (53:07) But I wanted to write a book. (53:08) So I said, could write a book about being a stay at home dad. (53:11) I said, I think that would be really interesting.
Scott Benner (53:13) I've thought about that before. (53:14) And they said, yeah. (53:15) Sure. (53:15) Like, get us a you know, get us an outline. (53:18) And I got off the phone, called my wife.
Scott Benner (53:21) You know? (53:21) I was like, hey. (53:22) This is what they want. (53:23) And she's like, are you gonna do it? (53:24) I said, yeah.
Scott Benner (53:25) I think so. (53:25) And then I just turned to my computer and I sat down and I just every one of those chapters is a thing that I wrote down in five seconds. (53:34) I just was like, this is important to know. (53:36) This is important to know. (53:37) This, this, this, this, this.
Scott Benner (53:38) I don't know if I put, like, 15 or 20 ideas together. (53:41) And then I've said this before on the podcast, but I was done ten minutes after I got off the phone with him. (53:47) I sat on it, like, for the rest of the week through the weekend because I wanted to think I was truly thinking about it. (53:52) And then I just sent it off and they said, this looks good. (53:55) You know?
Scott Benner (53:55) We'll give you a half the money upfront and the other half when you're done. (53:59) And I was like, okay. (54:01) And then I just sat down and wrote out how I felt about being a parent. (54:04) That's pretty much it. (54:06) I don't think I'm a particularly good writer.
Scott Benner (54:08) I'm if it reads even half decent, I'm I'm grateful.
Chris (54:12) Yeah. (54:12) It it does. (54:14) I listen to a fair amount of books. (54:15) Not a not a whole lot of similar topic books to that, but, I mean, it it reads, I think, similar to the way that your podcast listens. (54:22) I mean, you well spoken, and and the ideas are thought out.
Chris (54:26) It's I thought it was excellent.
Scott Benner (54:28) Thank you.
Chris (54:29) I've shared it with non you know, other people that I know, other dads, and I've had similar feedback where they're like, wow. (54:35) This is I've had people actually listen to a few episodes of the podcast with no context about type one diabetes. (54:40) Some of your podcast episodes are great, they're really not all that much about diabetes. (54:44) Yeah. (54:44) They're just about life.
Scott Benner (54:46) I told somebody the other day, I don't think I make a diabetes podcast. (54:49) I think I make a podcast where I only talk to people who are affected by diabetes.
Chris (54:53) Yeah. (54:54) That that's a great way to put it. (54:55) Yeah. (54:56) I and I'd agree.
Scott Benner (54:56) We came out of that that session yesterday, and, there was a lot of people lined up to say hi. (55:01) And one lady just came up to me and she said, you were so well spoken. (55:04) That was such a pleasure to listen to. (55:06) And I thought, no. (55:07) I'm not.
Scott Benner (55:08) I am not well spoken. (55:10) Then you just use the same words. (55:12) Like, I I don't know how to think about that. (55:14) I think I speak like you're watching Pulp Fiction. (55:18) I think you're here and then you're in the future and then you're in the past and then you're in your future and then somehow at the end it all ties together.
Scott Benner (55:24) Yeah. (55:25) Yeah. (55:25) But is that
Chris (55:26) That's good.
Scott Benner (55:27) That's good, though? (55:27) Like, I I mean I
Chris (55:29) it it works for you.
Scott Benner (55:30) Yeah. (55:30) It seems wrong to me.
Chris (55:31) It seems wrong to Like you said, you're not you're not planning it. (55:34) You're not trying to do this. (55:35) It just is who you are. (55:37) Yeah. (55:37) You're
Scott Benner (55:38) just I guess so.
Chris (55:39) Being your genuine self, which is, I think, why why it works so well for you because you're not trying to be something you're not.
Scott Benner (55:45) I'm gonna I'm gonna do something that I think a therapist would tell me is good, I'm gonna say thank you, and I appreciate that, and I'm taking it in. (55:52) And I'm gonna tell you I agree with you. (55:54) So there. (55:55) I'm gonna Awesome. (55:55) I'm gonna take the compliment.
Chris (55:57) Good.
Scott Benner (55:57) Awesome. (55:58) Alright. (55:58) Hold on one second for me. (55:59) This is a real pleasure. (56:00) By the way, you get a two parter out of that because we chatted so long.
Scott Benner (56:02) Congratulations.
Chris (56:03) Awesome. (56:04) Well, thank you for for talking to me and and to Emma. (56:06) It it's it's been excellent.
Scott Benner (56:08) Alright. (56:09) I really do appreciate it. (56:10) Hold on one second for me. (56:18) This episode of the Juice Box podcast is sponsored by the Omnipod five. (56:22) And at my link, omnipod.com/juicebox, you can get yourself a free what'd I just say?
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Scott Benner (57:10) Thank you so much for listening. (57:12) Here's to a fantastic 2026. (57:17) Hey. (57:17) I'm dropping in to tell you about a small change being made to the Juice Cruise twenty twenty six schedule. (57:22) This adjustment was made by Celebrity Cruise Lines, not by me.
Scott Benner (57:25) Anyway, we're still going out on the Celebrity Beyond cruise ship, which is awesome. (57:30) Check out the walkthrough video at juiceboxpodcast.com/juicecruise. (57:34) The ship is awesome. (57:36) Still a seven night cruise. (57:38) It still leaves out of Miami on June 21.
Scott Benner (57:41) Actually, most of this is the same. (57:43) We leave Miami June 21, head to Coco Cay in The Bahamas, but then we're going to San Juan, Puerto Rico instead of Saint Thomas. (57:50) After that, Bastille, I think I'm saying that wrong, Saint Kitts And Nevis. (57:54) This place is gorgeous. (57:56) Google it.
Scott Benner (57:57) I mean, you're probably gonna have to go to my link to get the correct spelling because my pronunciation is so bad. (58:01) But once you get the Saint Kitts and you Google it, you're gonna look and see a photo that says to you, oh, I wanna go there. (58:08) Come meet other people living with type one diabetes from caregivers to children to adults. (58:14) Last year, we had a 100 people on our cruise, and it was fabulous. (58:19) You can see pictures to get at my link juiceboxpodcast.com/juicecruise.
Scott Benner (58:24) You can see those pictures from last year there. (58:27) The link also gives you an opportunity to register for the cruise or to contact Suzanne from Cruise Planners. (58:32) She takes care of all the logistics. (58:34) I'm just excited that I might see you there. (58:37) It's a beautiful event for families, for singles, a wonderful opportunity to meet people, swap stories, make friendships, and learn.
Scott Benner (58:49) If you're new to type one diabetes, begin with the bold beginnings series from the podcast. (58:53) Don't take my word for it. (58:55) Listen to what reviewers have said. (58:57) Bold beginnings is the best first step. (58:59) I learned more in those episodes than anywhere else.
Scott Benner (59:02) This is when everything finally clicked. (59:04) People say it takes the stress out of the early days and replaces it with clarity. (59:08) They tell me this should come with the diagnosis packet that I got at the hospital. (59:12) And after they listened, they recommend it to everyone who's struggling. (59:16) It's straightforward, practical, and easy to listen to.
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#1723 Emma's Dad - Part 1
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Chris returns to redeem himself after episode 1600, discussing resilience, family health improvements, AI in diabetes care, and an unbelievable story about inheriting land and a battleship.
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Scott Benner (0:00) Hello, friends, and welcome to the Juice Box podcast. (0:03) As we wrap up 2025, here's the old friends, new stories, and everything we've learned along the way.
Chris (0:23) My name is Chris. (0:25) I'm Emma's dad from episode 1,600 Into the Woods, and I'm here to sort of follow-up and redeem myself for all the nasty things she said about me in that episode.
Scott Benner (0:40) If this is your first time listening to the Juice Box podcast and you'd like to hear more, download Apple Podcasts or Spotify, really any audio app at all. (0:49) Look for the Juice Box podcast and follow or subscribe. (0:52) We put out new content every day that you'll enjoy. (0:56) Wanna learn more about your diabetes management? (0:58) Go to juiceboxpodcast.com up in the menu and look for bold beginnings, the diabetes pro tip series, and much more.
Scott Benner (1:05) This podcast is full of collections and series of information that will help you to live better with insulin. (1:15) While you're listening, please remember that nothing you hear on the Juice Box podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. (1:23) Always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan or becoming bold with insulin. (1:37) Today's podcast episode is sponsored by Medtronic Diabetes, who is making life with diabetes easier with the MiniMed seven eighty g system and their new sensor options, which include the Instinct sensor made by Abbott. (1:52) Would you like to unleash the full potential of the MiniMed seven eighty g system?
Scott Benner (1:56) You can do that at my link, medtronicdiabetes.com/juicebox. (2:01) Today's episode is also sponsored by the Kontoor Next Gen blood glucose meter. (2:07) This is the meter that my daughter has on her person right now. (2:10) It is incredibly accurate and waiting for you at contournext.com/juicebox.
Chris (2:17) My name is Chris. (2:19) I'm Emma's dad from episode 1,600 Into the Woods. (2:24) And I'm here to sort of follow-up and redeem myself for all the nasty things she said about me in that episode.
Scott Benner (2:32) Well, that you're bringing it right back to me, actually. (2:36) Hey. (2:37) She gave it to you good. (2:38) That was fun. (2:39) Yeah.
Scott Benner (2:39) You you took it in, in good humor, I imagine?
Chris (2:42) Oh, yeah. (2:42) We have a very, I don't know if playful is the right word. (2:46) We have a good relationship. (2:48) We're very open, and, we have a good time. (2:50) So we're always we're always giving each other crap.
Scott Benner (2:52) She was excellent. (2:53) So if you're enjoying Chris, and you wanna hear Emma, she is in episode 1,600. (2:57) It and like Chris said, it's called Into the Woods. (3:00) So well, I'm at an advantage because I, of course, just remember that a little girl came on and busted her dad's balls, and I don't remember anything else. (3:09) So I'll be able to talk to you as if, as if I'm I'm not burdened by the by the backstory.
Chris (3:14) Awesome.
Scott Benner (3:15) I was just at a thing yesterday. (3:18) I was giving a talk at a for, you know, a company, and just kind of a motivational thing. (3:24) They had they kind of had, like, talk I don't know if they were talking, but say questions that they wanted to ask me. (3:28) They definitely weren't talking much. (3:29) There were questions they wanted to ask me.
Scott Benner (3:31) And then, you know, we met for, you know, a couple of times before I went out there. (3:35) You know, what what do you think your answer is to this question? (3:37) I would tell them, and and we get into a meeting, like, you know, a couple weeks later, and they'd say, what are the what you know, let's go over it again. (3:42) We'll transfer that question. (3:43) I'd say something different.
Scott Benner (3:45) And and they'd say, that that's not what you said last time. (3:48) Was like, well, that's what it made me think of today. (3:50) You know, I'm sitting there waiting for them to call me up, and I just kept thinking, like, I wonder what I'm gonna say. (3:56) I never know. (3:57) So we get up there and and I start talking, and and I told them, I'm like, I have an outline here.
Scott Benner (4:03) I said, I know there are people in the room who worked hard on it. (4:05) I I have to be honest with you. (4:07) I don't know how I'm gonna do following it. (4:10) I don't remember. (4:10) Like, standing here right now, I don't know.
Scott Benner (4:13) I have no idea what's about to happen. (4:15) And people looked at me a little weirdly. (4:17) You know, it's kind of a corporate thing where you could tell they had made sure they were delivering the messages they wanted to send from different departments and whatnot. (4:23) It was really well done, really, like, very professional. (4:26) And they kinda looked at me strangely, and and that's when I told them, I don't know who I'm talking to before I record the podcast.
Scott Benner (4:33) And that really flipped people out. (4:36) Anyway
Chris (4:36) Yeah. (4:37) Well, I I I agree with you. (4:38) I I love the approach. (4:39) I mean, I've listened to a lot of a lot of the episodes. (4:42) I think Emma actually mentioned it in her episodes that I stumbled into the podcast way immediately when she was diagnosed.
Chris (4:50) I was away at a work trip. (4:52) I got a call from my wife, and she said that Emma had type one diabetes, and I had absolutely no idea what that meant. (4:58) That's actually what I said. (4:59) I said, I I don't know what that means. (5:01) I feel like I'm supposed to be shocked.
Chris (5:03) I had no idea. (5:04) I listened to a lot of podcasts, so I just opened up opened up my podcast player and searched for diabetes, and yours was the first one. (5:10) So I started listening from the beginning.
Scott Benner (5:12) Isn't that something? (5:13) How that works? (5:13) Yeah. (5:14) Yeah. (5:14) Anyway, I I think this you know, it'll be interesting to to get the other side of it.
Scott Benner (5:18) Do you wanna trash your daughter at any point? (5:20) Like, I mean, how
Chris (5:21) Oh, absolutely. (5:21) I'm still I'm still trying to to plan on exactly how to do that. (5:25) I did ask her before I dropped her off at school this morning if there was anything that was absolutely off limits that I wasn't allowed to talk about. (5:33) So there's a couple things that I won't be able to say, but I don't know. (5:35) Well, I'm sure throughout the conversation, I'll find somewhere to It's very my fair.
Chris (5:39) Comeback. (5:40) Very, very
Scott Benner (5:40) So tell me a little bit about that. (5:43) You're in that hotel room. (5:45) How long were you there for by the time she called, and how long did you have to stay afterwards?
Chris (5:50) Yeah. (5:50) Real quick. (5:51) I'll I'll start with, she had a story about the bees. (5:54) She fell into some bees, and that sort of led to her diagnosis.
Scott Benner (5:57) Mhmm.
Chris (5:58) Just the the lead up to that. (5:59) It was a couple of months. (6:00) We don't know if that's what triggered it or whatever, but she'd been sort of acting out of character. (6:04) She was just always a great kid. (6:06) We have three kids.
Chris (6:07) They're all absolutely awesome, happy, fun kids, and she just wasn't herself. (6:10) She had just started going to daycare, and she was a monster, I guess, is the the way to put it. (6:15) Like, I'm like, I don't know who this kid is. (6:17) We would drop her off, and she would be crying. (6:20) And we felt terrible leaving her because my wife stays at home with the kids, which is awesome that we're able to do for them.
Chris (6:26) And but, you know, she wanted to get her socialized and get her around some other kids.
Scott Benner (6:30) Yeah.
Chris (6:31) We feel terrible that she's just doesn't wanna be there, she's crying. (6:34) And it's so unusual because she's such a great kid who's always laughing and loves to play with other kids. (6:41) So we drop her off and she'd be crying. (6:42) We'd pick her up and she'd be crying. (6:43) And, I mean, we could as we'd pull into the parking lot, we could hear the screams from outside.
Chris (6:48) It was awful. (6:49) Absolutely heartbreaking. (6:51) And she was really tired. (6:53) And my wife and I or my wife and and Emma went on a trip just just a couple days before diagnosis, and I had a work trip planned. (7:02) So I was a couple hours away, and they were in in Rhode Island.
Chris (7:07) And Molly called a couple times and said, I think I might take her to the doctor. (7:10) She's just really tired. (7:12) She's, like, lethargic. (7:13) All she wants to do is is just lay around and and drink juice. (7:18) She loved Capri Sun.
Chris (7:19) So, you know, right up to diagnosis, she was just rocking back the Capri Sun nonstop because she was so thirsty and wetting diapers, like, we had never seen. (7:29) And they were visiting her sister, and they had just got one of those brand new, like, ghost beds, These, like, $3,000 super nice beds. (7:36) And they let Emma take a nap in there. (7:39) And, of course, she peed completely through her diaper and all through that brand new ghost bed. (7:45) That was awesome.
Scott Benner (7:46) Did you have to buy a new one?
Chris (7:48) I don't know. (7:48) My my sister-in-law I I believe she probably did, if I had to guess. (7:53) But she said, holy cow. (7:54) I've never seen a kid pee so much. (7:56) What?
Chris (7:57) Does she have diabetes? (7:58) And we didn't think anything of it. (8:01) But after the diagnosis a couple days later, we thought that was pretty funny.
Scott Benner (8:04) How did your sister-in-law come up with that? (8:06) Do you know?
Chris (8:07) I don't know. (8:08) I think I if I'm not mistaken, I think her mom has type two.
Scott Benner (8:11) Okay.
Chris (8:12) So they knew the signs of high blood sugar being, you know, excess urination and whatnot.
Scott Benner (8:16) That would mean your wife's mom had type two.
Chris (8:18) And not my wife's mom. (8:19) It was my my sister-in-law. (8:21) So my oh oh, but so my let's see. (8:24) My wife's sister is of the other sexual preference. (8:27) So Oh, I gotcha.
Chris (8:29) She has a wife. (8:29) So I
Scott Benner (8:30) I see. (8:31) Also, that wouldn't have meant anything. (8:32) I I did familiar math completely wrong. (8:35) It could have been your wife's brother's wife.
Chris (8:38) Yeah. (8:38) Yeah. (8:38) Somewhere right now.
Scott Benner (8:39) So so
Chris (8:40) some remote family member.
Scott Benner (8:41) Yeah.
Chris (8:42) That's kinda what led up to us being like, alright. (8:44) We need to we need to go to the doctor and figure out what's going on. (8:47) Okay. (8:47) Then I got the call, and I started listening to I think it was episode two. (8:52) It was the the one somebody from Dancing With The Stars, maybe?
Scott Benner (8:56) Oh, yeah. (8:57) Oh, god. (8:57) It's funny. (8:58) I just brought him up. (8:58) He was actually on American Idol.
Chris (9:01) Yeah. (9:01) That's what it was.
Scott Benner (9:02) And his dad no. (9:03) His uncle was super famous.
Chris (9:06) Yeah. (9:06) Yeah. (9:07) I don't remember. (9:07) I yeah. (9:08) I had completely forgotten that.
Scott Benner (9:09) His uncle was Carlos Santana.
Chris (9:11) Oh, that's right.
Scott Benner (9:12) Yeah. (9:13) Yeah. (9:13) Yeah.
Chris (9:13) Adam something maybe.
Scott Benner (9:14) Adam. (9:15) Can't. (9:15) Adam Lasher. (9:16) Oh my god. (9:16) Adam Lasher.
Scott Benner (9:17) You got me too, Chris. (9:18) Thank I Sweet. (9:19) It's so funny. (9:20) Yesterday, I somebody asked me what was the first episode you ever did, I told them that I had this kinda cockamamie idea that I was gonna read my blog into a microphone, and that's what I thought the podcast was going to be. (9:31) And then I tried it and very quickly, like, literally within minutes was I I said to myself, like, I wouldn't even list this.
Scott Benner (9:36) This is terrible. (9:37) And in that time between me trying that and not knowing what to do, I had a podcast that was online and ready to go and no content for it, and this kid pops up on American Idol. (9:49) And I very much said yesterday, I don't know where I got the nerve for this. (9:53) Like, I reached out to him. (9:54) I was like, you wanna be on my diabetes podcast?
Scott Benner (9:55) And I didn't say the rest of it, like, that I've never made before. (9:58) And he said yes. (9:59) And that that's how that very oddly placed interview is at the very beginning of the podcast.
Chris (10:06) Oh, it's awesome.
Scott Benner (10:06) And I
Chris (10:07) mean, you hooked me on on day one. (10:09) So I Cool. (10:10) You know, I listened to that and a few other episodes on my on my couple hour ride home to meet my wife at the what I thought was going to be the hospital. (10:16) Right before I got home, I got a call saying that she they were sending her home. (10:21) So the reason that Emma doesn't remember anything about her her hospital stay was that there wasn't one, which is really cool.
Chris (10:28) So what it what it ended up ended up happening is they brought her into the pediatrician, and where we live, the pediatrician's office and the diabetes pediatric diabetes clinic are in the same building, which is pretty convenient in this case. (10:41) So they went into the doctor, and the first thing that the doctor said was, this kinda looks like diabetes. (10:47) So they went and they they did a, you know, blood glucose. (10:50) And I can't remember how high it was, but her a one c was, like, 14.1, if I remember right. (10:55) So it was up there.
Chris (10:57) And but she wasn't in DKA. (11:00) So they gave her some insulin, and it just turned out to it also happened to be that the diabetes specialist was Molly's child my wife's childhood pediatrician. (11:10) Oh. (11:11) So they had instant rapport. (11:13) You know, she walked into the room and said, oh, Corey, like, I haven't seen you in years.
Chris (11:17) And it just turned out to be that so they had they had rapport. (11:20) Emma responded really well to to insulin. (11:23) They gave her some Humalog rate in the office, and he could tell that that Molly could handle that type of stuff. (11:28) So he gave her just a real basic, like, you know, let's do a 10 to one carb ratio, and here's the don't die advice. (11:34) Stick it up on your refrigerator.
Chris (11:36) Call us if you have any questions. (11:37) And they sent her home, like, three or four hours after being there.
Scott Benner (11:41) Okay.
Chris (11:41) And and then they said, okay. (11:42) We're gonna have to go back in tomorrow, and we'll have some education. (11:46) So we went, and we had that Pink Panther book, of course. (11:49) So I'd, like, stayed up all night and read that Pink Panther book, and, I still don't remember a single word of what was in it. (11:55) I just remember the cover of it.
Chris (11:57) We went to training the next day and and, you know, learned the basics. (12:01) And then I was listening to the podcast at the same time. (12:05) So within a month, I knew I wanted a Dexcom. (12:09) And I brought it up to the the CDEs that were in the office, and they said, yeah. (12:13) You know, you you definitely do want that, but we have a rule here.
Chris (12:16) You kinda gotta go for a year without having you know, just on injections. (12:21) So I ended up calling the Dexcom and Omnipod reps. (12:25) And I don't know exactly how, but they thought that I was some sort of representative or something. (12:31) I'm not really sure what it was.
Scott Benner (12:32) Okay.
Chris (12:32) But they ended up calling the office and talking to to Corey. (12:37) They sort of laughed about the miscommunication thinking that I was looking for supplies to sort of become a reseller or something like that or that I was an educator. (12:45) I guess it made them all have a conversation, and they could tell that that we could handle it, and Emma was a tough kid. (12:50) So, like, I don't know, about two months in, we we ended up getting, getting on Dexcom and and Omnipod.
Scott Benner (12:56) Even if they wanted you to do MDI for year, why couldn't you do MDI with a Dexcom?
Chris (13:01) Probably could. (13:01) It was just that's the way they they were. (13:03) Like yeah. (13:04) I guess so not just MDI, but MDI and manual finger sticks. (13:08) They'd like to make people wake up at 2AM is what I think it is.
Chris (13:11) Yeah. (13:11) Like, to just punish them a little bit. (13:13) Seems to be
Scott Benner (13:14) I understand the concept. (13:15) I think it's misguided to some degree.
Chris (13:16) Oh oh, I yeah. (13:18) I mean, I've I've heard you talk about it many times on here, and I I couldn't agree more. (13:22) Like, I don't really know why they don't just stick a Dexcom on day one. (13:26) Emma sort of talked about the diagnosis of her cousin. (13:29) Like, he was over for Thanksgiving.
Chris (13:31) His girlfriend was talking about, he was peeing a lot and, you know, being grumpy and all that sort of stuff. (13:37) So we tested his blood sugar, it was, like, 500. (13:39) So, it was it was Thanksgiving on a Friday night. (13:43) So, the the hospital systems here are kind of in decay. (13:48) You know, it's every week they're they're talking about shutting down.
Chris (13:52) They've closed most of the ambulatory and walk in clinics. (13:54) Like, it's it's kind of rough. (13:56) So we knew he wasn't gonna get the best the best care if he went in. (14:00) We have mountains of supplies, so, you know, we we kind of and he actually did a paper when he was in college on type one diabetes because of Emma. (14:08) So he's he's sort of, like, been close to it.
Chris (14:11) Mhmm. (14:11) So we just sort of hung out and showed him how it all worked. (14:13) And so in a you know, over the weekend, he got his blood sugar back into range and, you know, I threw a g seven on him, and and he had all that to go into the the clinic. (14:23) And, of course, as you would imagine, he got faced with, we don't think you have diabetes because your blood sugar is in range.
Scott Benner (14:28) Because I fixed it over the weekend.
Chris (14:30) Yeah. (14:30) Yeah. (14:31) So it was a struggle. (14:32) It took, like, I think, three or four months for him to get a diagnosis.
Scott Benner (14:36) What part of the country?
Chris (14:38) We live in Maine.
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Scott Benner (17:03) Learn more and get started today with my link, medtronicdiabetes.com/juicebox. (17:09) Are you the story with the you helped the gentleman who's gonna bequeath his land to you one day?
Chris (17:15) Yeah. (17:15) I think that's probably why you called it into the woods. (17:17) Yes. (17:18) Yeah. (17:18) Yeah.
Chris (17:18) Yeah.
Scott Benner (17:18) Oh my god. (17:19) That's awesome.
Chris (17:20) Yeah. (17:21) That's a crazy story. (17:22) Yeah. (17:22) I'll give a little little little short version of it here. (17:24) Right.
Chris (17:25) So I'm in IT. (17:26) You and I talked a little bit last time about, you know, doing some AI stuff and whatnot. (17:29) Right. (17:29) But I've I've done IT stuff forever. (17:31) I used to work at Circuit City.
Chris (17:32) I built these custom computers, so people would come in and Circuit City sold computers, but I would, like, take them apart and drum a hole in the side and put in plexiglass and flashy lights.
Scott Benner (17:42) And, you
Chris (17:42) know, I'd make these gaming computers and upgrade them. (17:44) Mhmm. (17:44) This guy came in one day and he this grumpy old old New York guy, sick accent and he he says, I wanna talk to the guy that built that computer. (17:54) So I talked to him and he says, I I wanna start playing video games. (17:57) I want that computer.
Chris (17:59) But I want it for half the price because you're gonna come out to my house and I'm gonna pay you cash. (18:03) And, I mean, I was, like, you know, 20 years old and I was like, oh oh, okay. (18:07) Sure. (18:08) That sounds great. (18:08) So I went out and showed him how to play video games, built him some computers and helped him with miscellaneous tech stuff.
Chris (18:15) Like, he was really into music, so I'd help him set up different audio systems and showed him how to convert from VHS to DVD and just miscellaneous stuff while helping him play games. (18:26) He was just an eccentric guy. (18:28) He built a battleship. (18:30) He had airplane runway, like, right on his land out here, and he he bought the land for, like, $3,000 just almost by accident back in the seventies.
Scott Benner (18:39) Okay.
Chris (18:39) Just farm farm land, and he built an, runway on it, and he flew his plane in, he built a cabin. (18:44) Then he retired at at, like, 42 and turned it into a bed and breakfast and just built this, like, really cool place and lived out his his days just playing video games and doing miscellaneous hobbies and shooting guns and just a really fascinating guy. (18:59) So I always hung around, but, there was really nobody else in his life, just him and his wife. (19:04) And when he got sick and died a couple of years ago, he sort of said, Chris, I need somebody to take care of my wife. (19:09) You've got a couple of young boys, and, you I was kinda hoping maybe you'd help out.
Chris (19:13) And I, of course, said, absolutely. (19:15) We'd love to help. (19:16) Like, we're kinda caregiving, voluntary type people. (19:19) We do a lot of stuff with animals and whatnot. (19:21) Plus, he has a whole pile of Shih Tzu dogs, and they they loved us anyway.
Chris (19:25) So it just sort of happened naturally. (19:28) He passed away three weeks later, which was just unbelievable. (19:33) So, I kinda went out there and stayed a lot of the time and helped his wife through hospice care and whatnot. (19:39) And then we just continue to take care of the place. (19:42) And then as as Emma had mentioned just, I don't know, a year or so ago, she sort of dropped the news on us that they're leaving the land to us, which is absolutely insane.
Chris (19:52) It's like a like a fairy tale. (19:54) For years, I went out here and looked at this guy's beautiful land, and he'd always look at me and say, boy, isn't this isn't this beautiful? (19:59) Isn't this the place you'd like to live in? (20:01) You know? (20:01) And he'd always just sort of say that stuff, but I had no idea that, like, this grumpy old guy
Scott Benner (20:06) Was measuring you up.
Chris (20:07) Yeah. (20:08) Yeah. (20:08) And that's that's sort of what he said. (20:10) He's just like, you you know you you know how things run around here. (20:13) I understand how your brain works, and I know you're a good guy.
Chris (20:15) And yeah. (20:17) So that's that's the story.
Scott Benner (20:18) Even my wife when I couldn't do it myself, and here's here's the way I'm gonna say thank you.
Chris (20:24) Absolutely. (20:24) How many acres? (20:26) It's a a 102 acres.
Scott Benner (20:28) Wow. (20:28) That's really awesome. (20:30) Yeah. (20:31) It's nice you to tell his story because it could just I like the way he just seems to effortlessly move through his life and make big changes and shifts. (20:41) The only thing I didn't understand about your story was he built a battleship.
Scott Benner (20:44) What what are you telling me?
Chris (20:45) Oh, yeah. (20:45) That that was one of the coolest things. (20:47) It it's still out there. (20:48) He built the the German battleship, the Graf Spey, which I believe was, like, the first battle the first ship sunk in World War two, maybe.
Scott Benner (20:55) Okay.
Chris (20:56) But he just in his in his basement, he I I mean, there was no YouTube or anything to figure it out from back then. (21:02) He didn't have a background in it. (21:04) He just decided he was gonna build a battleship. (21:07) So he started off he was just gonna build a large model, and he ended up building, I don't remember the exact measure the exact size. (21:15) I think it's maybe, like, a one one twentieth scale or something like that, but it was, like, a 18 foot little mini battleship.
Chris (21:23) And he went to the extent of having he had he put all the little guns and the little people on it and all the rigging, but it was big enough that he was actually able to sit in it. (21:33) So he would play, like, what is it? (21:35) Rise of the Valkyries. (21:36) It was, you know, some classical music. (21:37) He'd just blare it while he'd ride around the lakes of Maine in this little battleship with war flags hanging from it.
Scott Benner (21:43) Wait. (21:43) You just Now you're telling me it floated?
Chris (21:46) Oh, it floated, and he drove it and brought it all over all over the state, all over New England, and it's it's in a museum. (21:53) I helped him sell it to a museum up in, up in Canada, and that's where it is now.
Scott Benner (21:59) Yeah. (21:59) Something. (21:59) That's really insane. (22:01) Oh, well, it's lovely. (22:02) So do you live I'm sorry.
Scott Benner (22:03) No. (22:04) Please. (22:04) What were you gonna say?
Chris (22:05) Oh, all I was gonna say is a fascinating side story to that is when we were trying to figure out what to do with this boat, he had me call the place that the ship was actually sunk. (22:15) I think it's called Monte Vaddeo, somewhere down in, like, Central America. (22:20) Mhmm. (22:20) And I couldn't call them, but I I I found their email address for, like, the naval base. (22:24) And I sent them a message, and it explained everything that this, you know, that this guy had built this this boat by hand, and he's looking for a place to sort of show it off so that it it lives out through history.
Chris (22:35) And the response I got that I never shared with him because I didn't wanna I didn't wanna break his heart, they said, the only thing we do with that boat is sink it so it could be right down there next to the other one. (22:45) Oh, I know. (22:47) I was like, wow. (22:48) Okay. (22:49) That's thank you for your time.
Chris (22:51) Yeah. (22:52) Yep. (22:53) Because I'm gonna ask
Scott Benner (22:53) you a question. (22:54) I don't find myself asking men that often. (22:57) Sure. (22:58) This is just my, my remembrance of me making the podcast. (23:01) Why are you such a nice person?
Chris (23:03) Oh, let's see. (23:05) I I think it's because I'll relate it to some of your your podcast episodes. (23:11) I think it's because I, score almost a perfect 10 on the Aces, and I, for some reason, got the resilience side of it.
Scott Benner (23:20) Ah, and none of the other stuff? (23:21) Some of it?
Chris (23:22) Some of the some of the other stuff. (23:23) I mean, none of the other stuff as far as, like, I don't have any of the aces, but I I mean, I have my my mental health demons that I battle. (23:31) And, actually, thanks to your podcast, I got into therapy. (23:34) Like, listening to you and Erica talk, I was like, oh, I would love to talk to somebody like this. (23:40) And that's that's helped a ton.
Scott Benner (23:43) Oh, you're gonna make her cry when she hears that. (23:45) She's gonna be so happy to know that.
Chris (23:47) Yeah. (23:47) Yeah. (23:48) Yeah. (23:49) Well, I I hope so. (23:50) I mean, it really it's it's been insanely helpful, it's helped my I mean, most of my family now.
Scott Benner (23:54) Oh, it's lovely. (23:56) Yeah. (23:56) Chris, for people who don't know, we I think we've done a an episode on it with Eric at some point, but the aces are the the original 10 categories are adverse childhood experiences, and they if you have a certain number of them, you're almost certain to have certain issues as an adult. (24:15) So they're physical, or sexual abuse, emotional abuse, physical neglect, emotional neglect, wasting, witnessing domestic violence, like your mother being treated violently, etcetera, household substance abuse, household mental illness, a separation or divorce with your parents, or someone in the household being incarcerated. (24:35) If if those things have happened in your life, the more you have, it kinda compounds and I can explain a lot of the, I don't know, a lot of the troubles you might be having as an adult.
Scott Benner (24:47) So you you identified some of those and you were like, oh, that's me?
Chris (24:51) Oh, yeah. (24:52) Yeah. (24:52) I mean, even as you're reading it now, I was like, oh, I might go for the I might go for the high score.
Scott Benner (24:57) Yeah. (24:57) Yeah. (24:58) I might be able to score a 10 here. (25:00) Hold on, everybody. (25:01) And so that happened to you, and then what came of it is you not wanting to be like that.
Chris (25:06) Yeah. (25:06) I mean, from from as young as I can remember of my so my mom was an alcoholic. (25:10) My parents split before I was born. (25:12) So I grew up with them just bashing each other constantly. (25:15) My dad went through some sort of midlife crisis and put his job when he was, like, 30, and I was a very late in life baby.
Chris (25:23) From my dad's perspective, I was a welfare baby because I was born just before my sister's eighteenth birthday. (25:30) And Oh, know.
Scott Benner (25:31) Oh, Chris, I gotta stop you. (25:32) I know I know I know people who do who've done that.
Chris (25:36) Oh, yeah.
Scott Benner (25:36) Have babies on a schedule to stay on welfare. (25:39) Right?
Chris (25:40) Right. (25:40) Right.
Scott Benner (25:40) What's that? (25:41) Oh, okay. (25:42) Sorry. (25:43) No. (25:43) Go on, and then I'll come back to my question.
Chris (25:45) It's okay. (25:46) Now here's the here's the the good part of that story is that when my dad died, I was able to figure that out for sure. (25:54) Mhmm. (25:55) And I found a bunch of letters from just probably four months before I was born between my mom and my dad and my sister, and they were happy and they were living together and everything was fine. (26:08) My mom didn't know she was pregnant, but everything was great.
Chris (26:12) And then there was an incident with my sister where my dad he he thought that there was something going on with her boyfriend and that she was lying all the time. (26:22) And, essentially, he kicked her out, my mom said, well, I'm going with her. (26:26) And that was that. (26:27) But it was just, you know, about four months before four or five months before I was born, it meant a lot to me to be like, ah, I was conceived in love.
Scott Benner (26:35) Yeah. (26:35) There were there was a good moment for them, and that's when you were conceived. (26:39) Yeah. (26:39) Yep. (26:40) That's lovely.
Scott Benner (26:40) I'm glad you were able to find that and have that. (26:43) Because otherwise, you I you're gonna come to the conclusion that it was it was time to get paid again. (26:47) So here comes Chris. (26:49) Right?
Chris (26:49) You go. (26:50) Yeah. (26:50) Absolutely. (26:51) That that's what I thought for a long time.
Scott Benner (26:53) Oh, jeez. (26:53) That must have been hard to live with.
Chris (26:55) I don't know. (26:56) It was just everything was so crazy as a child. (26:59) I was so I lived with my mom, but she was an absolutely severe alcoholic. (27:03) I was pretty much raising myself anyway. (27:05) I mean, I remember from a young age having to hide from CPS knocking on the door and having to like, I would, eight or nine years old, I would call the liquor stores in the area and be like, hey.
Chris (27:14) Can you please not sell my mom any alcohol?
Scott Benner (27:17) Uh-huh.
Chris (27:18) You know, she was passed out all the time. (27:20) So when I was, like, 10, my dad was he he worked a couple of hours away. (27:25) I basically called him one day and just begged him to come home because I didn't wanna live there anymore. (27:29) So I had to go to court and had to, like, testify in front of the judge and whatnot. (27:33) But, anyway, I ended up going to live with my dad, which was better than dealing with my mom because my dad just smoked weed.
Chris (27:42) He didn't drink at the time, so it was it was better. (27:45) He was happier, didn't have a job or anything. (27:47) So we were we squatted for a long time. (27:51) I mean, we lived in houses that that he either used to live in or he'd make a deal that he'd take care of a house for a few months and trade for us being able to stay there. (28:00) So we were homeless for quite a while, but it so just everything was so crazy.
Chris (28:04) It didn't didn't really matter. (28:06) So, you know, I I think that's that's where I built the resilience was I'd been through so much weird stuff that just didn't matter.
Scott Benner (28:14) Yeah. (28:14) Diabetes, you're like, oh, jeez. (28:15) This is easy. (28:17) Yeah. (28:17) Shouldn't I shouldn't have much trouble with this.
Scott Benner (28:19) Do you prefer chaos or calm now as an adult?
Chris (28:22) Oh, calm. (28:23) No question. (28:23) I mean, I I I do I thrive in chaos. (28:27) Mhmm. (28:28) But I like to control the chaos, if that makes sense.
Chris (28:32) You know, we're we're very busy. (28:34) We're into a ton of stuff. (28:36) We have chickens, and we foster cats. (28:40) And we we're into robotics, and we do, you know, Amazon a bunch of sports, and my son's in D and D clubs and math clubs, and we're always traveling around and doing all this stuff. (28:50) So we're very busy.
Chris (28:52) It that's the type of chaos I prefer now
Scott Benner (28:55) Yeah.
Chris (28:55) Versus the, like, the sky is falling chaos. (28:58) Like, whenever I got diagnosed with diabetes, that was a a sky is falling kind of chaos. (29:03) Definitely threw me into a funk for quite a while, you know, until I I wrapped my head around it. (29:08) And that's kinda how I handle most everything is, like, there's the initial, like, okay. (29:12) We've gotta figure this out.
Chris (29:13) And I go into, like, a survival mode. (29:17) And then, yeah, once I figure it out, then then it's autopilot. (29:21) And that's how I how I kinda handle everything. (29:23) Like, any issue that comes up, just throw my all into it, figure it out, and then move on.
Scott Benner (29:28) I wanna hear about the funk. (29:29) So tell me about that. (29:30) Like, she's diagnosed and and you fall into a bit of would you call it depression or just
Chris (29:35) Yeah. (29:35) Yeah. (29:36) I think so. (29:37) Just a, like, you know, this is the only thing that matters. (29:39) Just to add to this, I I have ADHD, which I didn't know until my boys get diagnosed with ADHD, and then I it made a whole lot of sense.
Chris (29:47) And this was right prior to me being medicated. (29:50) And one of the ways that it presents for me is either everything's overwhelming and there's a million inputs all at once, or it's just absolute complete hyperfocus. (30:00) And with diabetes, that's what it was. (30:02) It was just the only thing that mattered is making sure that that Emma's healthy, that everything's gonna be okay.
Scott Benner (30:09) Yeah.
Chris (30:09) So I remember when she first came home, and I realized the, like, relationship of carbohydrates to insulin, and and it was right before Halloween. (30:20) So I'm like, is she going to be able to have candy for Halloween? (30:25) And I remember, like, at nighttime, I would we used to have these, like, Dove chocolates that we'd keep in the house, I'd grab one out of the bowl. (30:32) And I remember going to eat it and being like, Emma would have to bowl us for this. (30:37) And it just, like, set me on this, like, sort of mental journey about, like, understanding everything and empathizing with her.
Chris (30:44) Yeah. (30:45) So that that's that's what I mean by funk. (30:47) It just sent me into this, like, overthinking everything and just really only focusing on this.
Scott Benner (30:53) Were you reflective in a good way, or were you thinking about it in an obsessive way?
Chris (30:57) I would say the first one. (30:59) My wife would probably say the second one. (31:01) Probably a combination of the two.
Scott Benner (31:04) Oh my gosh. (31:05) So the candy dish set you on on this path?
Chris (31:08) Yeah. (31:09) Yeah. (31:10) Actually, it it really was. (31:11) It was a it was a piece of chocolate.
Scott Benner (31:12) Yeah. (31:13) That just kind of made you think. (31:15) I I mean, I I imagine any of us who are being thoughtful who have kids with type one have had a moment where we picked up a piece of food and thought, oh, this this doesn't feel fair. (31:24) Yeah. (31:25) Yeah.
Chris (31:25) In a way, like so as far as that, like, obsessive thing you mentioned, I I did I did go the route of I see obsessive, but there's a silver lining. (31:35) There's a positive side of it. (31:37) I really dove into nutrition and just trying to wrap my head around how food works in the body and how insulin works. (31:45) It it was kind of pre a lot of your management episodes and whatnot with Jenny, but about the same time a lot of them started coming out. (31:51) I was also listening to Joe Rogan a lot, and that was back when he had a lot of people talking about nutrition coming on.
Scott Benner (31:56) Okay.
Chris (31:57) I really dove into it, and I I got myself really healthy. (32:00) I mean, at the time, back then, I was probably, like, a hundred and seventy, hundred eighty pounds. (32:04) I'm five seven. (32:05) I'm a nerd. (32:06) Physically active nerd.
Chris (32:08) Like, I I've always been very active, but I always had extra weight on me. (32:13) And I learned pretty quickly that, like, oh, if I just track my macros and understand you know, reduce my carb intake and, you know, add some intermittent fasting in here. (32:22) And within, I don't know, maybe a year, I got myself to a point that I was like, woah. (32:29) I look different. (32:29) I feel different.
Chris (32:30) I have so much more energy. (32:32) And all I did is make these little minor changes here and there in how I eat. (32:37) Like, I I cut out sugar, I just started eating more, like, kind of nothing from a box. (32:42) You know what I mean? (32:43) Just like like a paleo kind of thing.
Chris (32:45) And I got myself into into really good shape, and then that just sort of naturally started spreading to as I cooked and as I, you know whether it was around diabetes or or even just cooking for the family, was just, like, spreading some of that ideas, and it was interesting to watch, like, everything fall in line. (33:01) Like, one of the things we talk about is how Emma's diagnosis, it definitely sort of helped us all become healthier people.
Scott Benner (33:08) Mhmm. (33:08) Did your wife come along with that on that ride with you, or did she come along begrudgingly? (33:13) Or I'm always interested in how one person's change affects the the dynamic.
Chris (33:18) Yeah. (33:19) I mean, I like, I went I went hard into it, so a little too hard probably. (33:24) But, I mean, for their perspective, you know, because she's like, you know, we're still trying to eat all the regular foods. (33:30) So there were definitely times that I was, like, being overprescriptive or whatever, being like, hey. (33:35) Before you eat that, did you know how many grams of carbs are in that?
Chris (33:38) And do you know
Scott Benner (33:39) They're like, shut up.
Chris (33:41) Yeah. (33:41) Yeah. (33:42) Well, I mean so my boys are wired a lot like I am, so they were like, oh, fascinating. (33:47) You know? (33:48) And and and sometimes they'd be like, that's fascinating.
Chris (33:51) I'm gonna go eat this bowl of fudge now.
Scott Benner (33:53) Yeah. (33:54) Fascinating. (33:55) Not stopping. (33:55) And mom is rolling her eyes all the way to the back of her head right now.
Chris (33:58) Absolutely.
Scott Benner (33:59) Hey. (34:00) You didn't get to, like, nootropic gum or something like that. (34:02) How far did you fall down this rabbit hole?
Chris (34:04) No. (34:05) Nothing like that. (34:05) Good for you. (34:06) You know? (34:07) Well, I I got kids to feed.
Chris (34:09) You know? (34:09) There's a limited amount of money that
Scott Benner (34:10) you make in the world. (34:11) Gum.
Chris (34:12) Yeah. (34:12) If I I mean, I might have tried it. (34:15) I I remember trying Alpha Brain for a month and then being like, that seems like expensive pee. (34:19) But, you know, may maybe it did something, but not enough for me to try the second month.
Scott Benner (34:23) I'd like to give you credit for having an open mind and trying something in general. (34:27) So you get yourself in, like, awesome shape. (34:29) Your your kids are interested but not doing it. (34:33) Your wife is listening. (34:34) And then eventually, it just what it just kinda bled over.
Scott Benner (34:37) Just kinda cooked a certain way and didn't give them a a choice?
Chris (34:41) No. (34:41) No. (34:41) Not even like that. (34:42) Okay. (34:42) It was just like a I mean, I don't know.
Chris (34:45) It was like making little changes. (34:47) Right? (34:48) Like, changing out the type of pasta that we use, changing out the type of pasta sauce, and maybe getting a different bread. (34:55) Like, a lot of the stuff that I hear you and Jenny talking about as well, but just, like, mixing in little changes. (34:59) Yeah.
Chris (35:00) But then they they noticed it as well. (35:02) Right? (35:02) Like, my both my boys started noticing, like, oh, like, I'm looking looking much better when I look in the mirror, I feel stronger and have more energy. (35:10) So it just it just sort of happened. (35:13) That's awesome.
Chris (35:14) And yeah. (35:15) Yeah.
Scott Benner (35:16) Dug in pretty early on with the podcast to learn about diabetes and stuff. (35:19) Would you say there was ever a time where you guys struggled, you know, and where what was that like? (35:26) Or you know?
Chris (35:27) Yeah. (35:28) The I mean, the the early days for sure. (35:31) Trying to find that balance between keeping her safe and healthy and not being, like, totally overbearing and having to to to be by her side. (35:42) And I wanted her to be able to choose what she wanted to eat. (35:46) So I actually remember like, you had a podcast episode one time about a kid that wanted to eat some Skittles or M and M's or something along that those lines.
Chris (35:54) And he tried a little bit, tried the bolus. (35:56) That didn't work, and he wrote it down, made an adjustment. (35:58) And I just I remember those chocolates that I was talking about at the beginning, and I love those things. (36:04) And I was like, well, let's let's use that, and let's figure that out. (36:07) So we did that, and we just sort of figured it out one little thing at a time.
Chris (36:12) And then we just rinsed and repeated with that to be able to let her have the things she wants and and have predictable outcomes. (36:20) And then within within just a couple of months, we we we went from, like, you know, 1414 a one c, a diagnosis, to the next visit was a seven, next visit was a six, and then it's been six or below ever since then. (36:33) Just had had her, end of meeting last month. (36:36) It was, like, 5.6, I think.
Scott Benner (36:37) Yeah.
Chris (36:38) We just kept rolling with that. (36:39) And then with the introduction of Loop, and I'm I'm a software engineer anyway, so I remember buying a Mac and and setting up Loop and getting all that done. (36:47) But now with the newer versions, we have this Loop caregiver so we can manage things remotely. (36:52) So that enables us to start sending her to camp and being able to just kinda keep an eye on things and and giving her some of the control, but us still being able to, like, fix things remotely if if stuff goes sideways.
Scott Benner (37:03) Hey. (37:03) The loop caregiver, that's it's the icon with the blue circle. (37:06) Right?
Chris (37:07) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (37:07) Has it not been working for a while for you?
Chris (37:10) Oh, no. (37:11) I use it every single day. (37:12) I guess and I'm looking at it. (37:13) It's a it's a blue circle.
Scott Benner (37:15) Yeah.
Chris (37:15) Blue circle with the CG inside it. (37:17) It's a
Scott Benner (37:18) And your night scout can be in there as well?
Chris (37:20) Yeah. (37:20) Yeah. (37:21) I mean, it it it connects to night scout. (37:23) So that's how it that's how it functions, of course.
Scott Benner (37:25) Can you troubleshoot something for me while I have you here?
Chris (37:27) Oh, yeah. (37:28) Yeah. (37:28) What's up?
Scott Benner (37:28) So it hasn't been working for a while. (37:30) I haven't been able I mean, it's working as much as I can see things, but I haven't been able to send boluses or change targets or anything like that. (37:37) And now I just opened it up to talk to you about it, it says update available. (37:40) A new version is available. (37:41) Four point one dot o is recommended to update.
Scott Benner (37:43) I hit okay, but how do I update that?
Chris (37:46) So, nor the way that I do it is through through a GitHub repository.
Scott Benner (37:51) Oh, I have TestFlight, I think.
Chris (37:54) Yeah. (37:54) So so that that's where it lands. (37:56) It'll land in TestFlight. (37:57) But I don't know if you build your apps or if you have somebody else build your apps, but somebody goes into GitHub and sets up an action. (38:04) So you'd you'd go into GitHub, find the repo, you'd pull down the latest code from the repo, sync it with the source.
Chris (38:10) That gets you the latest version, then you'd build the app Okay. (38:14) Making sure that, you know, all your your Apple stuff is in. (38:17) If you've got another app building that you get through TestFlight regularly, then most everything's all set up and probably just need to rebuild the app.
Scott Benner (38:24) So may I be completely honest? (38:29) Yeah. (38:29) I know what GitHub is.
Chris (38:33) Sure you do.
Scott Benner (38:34) But a lot of what you said after that
Chris (38:36) Okay. (38:37) Alluded me. (38:38) So you you have somebody else that builds your app.
Scott Benner (38:40) Right, Scott? (38:41) So alright. (38:41) So I'm on GitHub. (38:42) I have trio loop oh, loop follow. (38:44) So I do I click on that on the left side?
Chris (38:46) I I don't know if loop follow is loop caregiver. (38:48) Loop follow is a is another one that sort of, is like a more advanced follow. (38:53) It like dexcom follow, but it also gives you pod info.
Scott Benner (38:56) Yeah. (38:56) That's the one I'm using because I don't see anything else there. (38:58) So
Chris (38:59) It it might be it might be similar. (39:00) So, I mean, I assume, yeah, that would be it. (39:02) And then you'd go into that repo.
Scott Benner (39:04) Okay. (39:05) Use English. (39:05) Go into the
Chris (39:06) Oh, okay. (39:07) Are you signed in?
Scott Benner (39:08) Get Yeah. (39:09) No. (39:09) I'm looking at it right now.
Chris (39:10) Okay. (39:10) So if you're into the repo, once you're in there, there should or the repo is the the thing. (39:15) So if you click on the name loop follow, it'll bring you to a sort of a landing page, and then you should have something like sync fork or
Scott Benner (39:23) I see sync fork.
Chris (39:24) Yep. (39:25) So you wanna sync the fork.
Scott Benner (39:27) This branch is not behind the upstream.
Chris (39:29) Oh, good. (39:30) So it's it's already done, which is cool. (39:31) Okay. (39:32) And then somewhere there's a there's an actions tab. (39:35) You'd click on actions.
Scott Benner (39:36) Somewhere there's an actions tab. (39:38) I see it. (39:38) Hold on a second. (39:39) Yeah. (39:40) I appreciate this, by the way.
Chris (39:41) Yeah. (39:41) Of course. (39:42) No problem.
Scott Benner (39:42) Alright. (39:42) Like, build loop follow main is green, but a lot of stuff is red in the past. (39:49) Oh, okay. (39:50) But the the latest one from a couple days ago is green. (39:55) So Okay.
Scott Benner (39:55) Check mark.
Chris (39:56) So that that's good. (39:58) Now the the question is the the way that loop the the way that we I have it set off anyway, and I think it's the default configuration, is that it'll do an auto build. (40:06) So does it say, like, build loop or whatever the the app is? (40:09) Does it say scheduled?
Scott Benner (40:11) Yes.
Chris (40:11) Okay. (40:12) So with the way that it works for ours, we have to manually build to actually deploy the new version of the app. (40:18) Mhmm. (40:19) So if if that number four action succeeded last time, you should be able to just click on that that that action and then click run. (40:28) So I'm on the
Scott Benner (40:29) it says build loop follow main, that's the only thing that's highlighted to click on or main I can click on. (40:33) Those are the two things that are clickable.
Chris (40:35) Okay. (40:36) Is is there anywhere that says, like, run?
Scott Benner (40:38) There's view workflow file, delete workflow, run. (40:41) Those are the clickable things. (40:43) Okay.
Chris (40:43) Let me
Scott Benner (40:43) click on this and see
Chris (40:44) what If you have run, that that should be it.
Scott Benner (40:46) One second, man. (40:48) Oh, why is everything so small? (40:50) That wasn't nice. (40:51) I I clicked on something out. (40:53) Run rerun all jobs?
Scott Benner (40:55) Yeah. (40:55) Check it out. (40:56) Yeah? (40:56) Alright.
Chris (40:57) So nor normally, with with the way I have it set up, if you do a manual run, that's the trigger that that says to actually deploy the application to TestFlight. (41:05) And so if that all succeeds, you know, half an hour or so after the build is complete, you should get an email.
Scott Benner (41:13) Okay. (41:13) And then do you click on something in the email?
Chris (41:16) Nope. (41:17) That's it. (41:17) You'll get an email from TestFlight saying your TestFlight apps are updated. (41:20) And then if you go into TestFlight, right beside the app, it'll say update.
Scott Benner (41:23) Okay. (41:24) Yeah. (41:24) I just saw it run it. (41:25) Now it's queued. (41:27) It's actually doing a lot here.
Scott Benner (41:28) And by a lot, I mean, there's things flashing and spinning.
Chris (41:31) Good. (41:31) So flashy, spinning things, and then as long as they're all green at the end, that hopefully will get that working for you.
Scott Benner (41:38) Okay. (41:38) Alright. (41:38) Can we pivot a little bit here?
Chris (41:40) So No. (41:40) Yeah, please.
Scott Benner (41:41) Like you said, when we set your daughter up to record, you and I chatted for a couple of minutes beforehand.
Chris (41:46) Yeah.
Scott Benner (41:46) And, I was probably talking about some of the stuff about AI that I'm excited about for health care and and maybe for the podcast too. (41:54) Did you see that the other day, ChatGPT released a browser called Atlas?
Chris (42:02) No. (42:03) I did not. (42:04) Yeah.
Scott Benner (42:04) I mean, technology in general. (42:05) Like, there you have to pick a point to jump in. (42:08) Right. (42:08) You you know what I mean? (42:09) And there's times where you're just like, I wanna know all about this.
Scott Benner (42:12) I think this is gonna be cool. (42:13) I can't wait to find out. (42:14) And there's times when you're like, you know what? (42:16) I'm gonna wait. (42:16) Something else is gonna happen.
Scott Benner (42:18) I'm wondering if this isn't something else.
Chris (42:22) Mhmm.
Scott Benner (42:22) So a browser with an AI sidebar in it that makes it feel like to me and I've only watched the the first overview of how it works, but it makes it feel to me that you can go to a website and then have ChatGP start talking like, looking directly at the website very closely while you're there. (42:42) Oh, wow. (42:42) And I'm thinking that most of the problems that I've imagined being alleviated for people, I think this might take care of a lot of it.
Chris (42:53) Oh, wow.
Scott Benner (42:54) Yep. (42:55) And I'm I'm I'm still, like, just beginning to dig into it, really. (42:58) So it'd it'd be unfair. (43:00) But have the things set up on the Circle group, which I don't have a lot of people in on purpose. (43:05) Right?
Scott Benner (43:06) They have, like, an agent in there, and you can load all the the transcripts of into the podcast. (43:11) And the agent you can ask the agent a question. (43:13) It does its best to go into the transcripts and pull out answers, etcetera. (43:17) But one of the things it does that really excites me and this weekend, actually, while I was away, it was a great example of why. (43:25) I had a woman contact me and ask me if it would be okay if she translated some of the transcripts of the podcast into Vietnamese so that she could so she could, share it in a local community, you know?
Scott Benner (43:36) And I was like, yeah, that's that's fine. (43:38) But if you go to that circle group and type a question into the agent in Vietnamese, it answers you in Vietnamese and every other language you can imagine. (43:51) So I've been talking for five, six years about, like, oh, we might have to pay voice actors to remake the episodes and, like and that that's financially impossible for me, but also, like, technically difficult. (44:03) Right? (44:03) Because you you're gonna just have people reading and it's gonna sound terrible and, you know, what are you gonna do and who's gonna pay for it and edit it all together?
Scott Benner (44:09) And I don't speak the languages, so I can't QC anything and just a really kind of a big mess. (44:14) I think this is gonna fill this in.
Chris (44:17) Absolutely. (44:17) We we have something similar for work now where we can enable a translator, and we have meetings where people are speaking different languages, Japanese and English, etcetera, and it just real time translates back and forth in, and it sounds like the person's voice who's speaking it in the other language.
Scott Benner (44:32) Yeah. (44:33) Isn't that crazy?
Chris (44:34) Oh, it's amazing. (44:35) Absolutely amazing.
Scott Benner (44:36) Yeah. (44:37) I I swear I I I think it's getting super close. (44:40) Like, I also understand the rest of it. (44:42) Like, if you wanna be social with me, I'll I could yell and scream about all the power this is gonna take and everything else too. (44:48) Like, I I know, you know, I'm not unaware of the problems.
Scott Benner (44:51) I'd assume I'm not gonna get in front of them, and I'm trying to figure out ways for this to help people. (44:56) So No. (44:57) I didn't. (44:58) I just went to my website, and I opened up I just downloaded the browser. (45:01) This is my first time using it.
Scott Benner (45:03) And I clicked on the chat GPT button at the top right. (45:06) It opens up a basically, like, a mini window inside of the browser. (45:09) I said, what is episode 1,600 like about? (45:13) Oh. (45:13) It says Into the Woods features 10 year old Emma who shares her life living with type one diabetes, everything from gymnastics to MMA, carb counting at school, and even how did she spot her cousin's diagnosis.
Scott Benner (45:23) That's just giving me something that's written on the page. (45:25) Then it says, if you'd like, I could pull a full transcript. (45:28) So pull transcript. (45:30) Let's see what happens there. (45:33) It's a little slow right now, but it's their first version, so I'm not overtly concerned about that.
Scott Benner (45:39) I want to see what happens as it opens up. (45:41) So, I guess my question is is where do you see AI in service of diabetes? (45:47) How do you think it might do that in the future?
Chris (45:50) Oh, yeah. (45:50) I I mean, with the way that it learns, it should be able to be able to look at your insulin delivery, your carb intake, and some any number of other variables and combine that with things like Apple Health and and other metrics. (46:06) And at some point, it should be pretty good at just doing what we do because we're just making decisions based on the data that we see, right, like as humans. (46:15) So this will definitely be able to do something very similar. (46:19) I mean, just watching seeing what it does in in my everyday use of it for work and and everything else in my personal life, it it's incredible.
Chris (46:28) So thinking about how that might apply to diabetes. (46:30) I mean, I talk to Emma about it pretty frequently. (46:32) Like, I think it's hopefully going to reduce her mental load a significant amount before she's at the age where she's gonna have to, you know, take more of it on.
Scott Benner (46:40) Mhmm. (46:40) Yeah. (46:41) Now I saw somebody online the other day asking a question, and they were clearly just trying to get other people's opinions. (46:47) But they had gone to chat GPT and had a a conversation about something about diabetes that they did, they didn't understand. (46:57) And I browsed it really quickly, I thought, I think this thing gave her a rock solid answer.
Scott Benner (47:02) And, you know, she was able to ask follow-up questions, which I think is maybe where that separates you from Google a little bit. (47:08) Like, you ask the first question, you get an answer back, and you might have more questions, but it's hard to know then where to go from there. (47:13) And then people came in, and they were like, this seems reasonable to me. (47:16) And people were interested in it too. (47:18) So it's gotta be coming a little bit.
Scott Benner (47:21) But I don't know how long till regular people who aren't, you know what I mean, digging into stuff like this, figure it out. (47:27) Because if you're online, you think everybody's doing this, but that's certainly not the case.
Chris (47:31) Right.
Scott Benner (47:31) Yeah.
Chris (47:32) Absolutely. (47:32) How do you use it at
Scott Benner (47:33) work where the translator helps again? (47:42) This episode was too good to cut anything out of, but too long to make just one episode. (47:47) So this is part one. (47:48) Make sure you go find part two right now. (47:50) It's gonna be the next episode in your feed.
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