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#1422 Small Sips: The Difference is Your Fear

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If you can keep your BG stable at 200 you can keep it stable at 80.

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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends and welcome to the sips series.

These foundational strategies were nominated by listeners. They told me these are the ideas in the podcast that truly make a difference for them. So I distilled them down into short, actionable insights. There's not going to be any fluff or complex jargon, just practical, real world diabetes management that you can start applying today. And I know your time is valuable, so we'll keep these short. Another small sip will come out once a week for the foreseeable future. If you like what you hear, check out the Pro Tip series or the bowl beginning series for more. These series are available in the menu at Juicebox podcast.com and you can find complete lists of all the series in the feature tab on the private Facebook group. Please remember that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan or becoming bold with insulin. The questions you have, I guarantee you, there's answers to them, and they're in the Juicebox Podcast. You

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So it says here that in episode 1050 this was with you as well. 105 all about a 1c with Jenny Smith, CDE, that's you and mastering continuous glucose monitors in the Pro Tip series, and actually comes up in Episode 11, bold, with insulin. I talk about the the idea of like, if you can be steady at 150 you can be steady at 80. Yes, like. So this might sound weird, red back. I'm just gonna start talking about anything in a second. But the difference, I've said this a million times, but it's very worth repeating in this episode, the difference between steady at 150 and steady at 180 The only difference between those lines is your fear. So this came to me through Arden's journey, when I realized, and almost another saying came out of it, like, you get what you expect. Like, I realized that Arden's top line on her CGM was set at 200 that's where her alert went off. And generally speaking, when I went back and looked Arden was never over 200 so one day I was like, this sounds crazy, but what if I just set the line to 180 like, what would happen then? And then I learned, like, Arden's blood sugar didn't go over 180 Now, if you're listening to this and thinking, that's not how it works, Scott, obviously it's not how it works, but it made me react sooner, correct, right? And it taught me that if I Bolus at this point, or if I did this thing, or if the setting was like this, that I got in a 180 blood sugar, because it's not like I just heard the beeping. It was like, Oh, this sucks. I was doing things to stop from getting to that line right. So I kept moving the line down and down and down. And now Arden's high alarm is set it on her phone. It's 130 on my phone, it's 120 and I know people would hear that and think, Oh, if I set my high alarm at 130 my thing would be beeping constantly all the time, but it wouldn't be, because eventually you'd learn how to use the insulin. And so people heard that, and then started saying, like, oh my god, this is great. Like, my blood sugars are 150 all the time. They were super excited, because it was way better than what they were getting, sure. And then I expanded it, and I said, Why don't you shoot for lower? And they'd say, Well, no, because I'm gonna get I'll get low if that happens. But

Jennifer Smith, CDE 3:43
if there's stability in this, probably what you're gonna say, if there's stability already, then just bringing it down slightly isn't gonna introduce lows, right? It's just gonna bring your average

Scott Benner 3:53
down. And so what I ended up saying to that person that day is, the only difference between steady at 150 and steady at 80 is your fear. So if you make the settings changes, and you make the lifestyle choices, meaning like, paying attention at the right times and using your insulin when necessary and etc, you can be steady at 180 8051, 50, like, you know, pick a number. I don't want you steady at 50, but I guarantee you there's a setting we could do that would put your blood sugar stable, you know, like, you know what I mean, like, so let's not aim for that. No, no, no, we're not aiming for that at all. The point is, is that there are settings that create stability. And if you found 150 it could be a little insulin sensitivity turn, it could be a little basal turn. It could be, I don't know, maybe you got to pre bullish your meals five minutes sooner. Like, I don't know, but like, in that, in that stew somewhere, is the answer to stability at the number you choose. That's all, yeah. I'm not trying to tell people that one number is right or wrong for them. I'm saying you could, by understanding how insulin works, choose that number and create stability. That number

Jennifer Smith, CDE 5:00
you could and it takes time to adjust that right. You had a 200 and then you gradually brought that value down, 180 maybe 160 maybe 150 over time you can adjust that finding a comfort level, again, with stability, meaning that you're not having major swings that your standard deviation, your variance is not roller coaster up and down like the Rocky Mountains. Maybe your average looks lower now, but if you don't have stability in that, then you're achieving that average, not the way that we want to

Scott Benner 5:35
that 32nd story I told took a year. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. I mean, I didn't know what I was doing. I was figuring it out. I didn't have a podcast to listen to. I didn't know you. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't live any of that myself. I was just like, what's happening? How do I make it stop? That was pretty much my whole life, for many years. Why is this happening? How can I make it stop? But you know, this idea, it's been born out over and over again in conversations. And, you know, once you I just want to say one more time, like, once you have settings that are creating stability, you can make adjustments to those settings that create that stability where you want it to be correct, and you might turn the wrong dial the first time. I don't know, right, you know, I mean, like, you might be like, I know what the problem is. It's basal. And you might make the basal more aggressive and go, that wasn't the problem. Like, right? Like, maybe it's like, you know, we've talked about in other episodes, but you make a meal Bolus, and you're, you're shooting for that bell curve, but sometimes you kind of rise up to the top of the bell and just never come back down again, right? That could have been your insulin to carb ratio. It could have been your understanding of the impact of that certain food, like, maybe your insulin to carb ratio is awesome, but it doesn't work on

Jennifer Smith, CDE 6:47
this meal, particular component of your food, right, right?

Scott Benner 6:50
What I'm trying to say to people, and I probably should say this more frequently, is that I know this sounds like 1000 different variables, and like you're like, Well, how the hell am I supposed to figure any of this out, but it's just trial and error. It's you're a little bit of your own science experiment that going on and learning slowly, and then you just pop your head up one day. And if it's a year or two, or I know, you guys listen to this podcast, you're like, you know, Jenny's like, great at this, and Scott seems like he understands it, and blah, blah. But, I mean, Arden was diagnosed when she was two. By the time she was four, I was still crying again. That was two years later, and I was like, now we had a meter. We didn't have CGM, but we added in a CGM. We learned how insulin works differently. I'm trying to say that it might have taken me six, eight years to figure this out, but sure, I hear back from enough people, I'm telling you, go listen to the Pro Tip series you might, six months from now, be like, Oh, I figured this out. Stand on the shoulders of other people who went through it already. There's no reason to reinvent the wheel. Like there's no person that needs to do what I did ever again, not

Jennifer Smith, CDE 7:57
with the technology that we have today, thankfully. Yeah, and I would definitely say, if you you said just before, that's all well and good, but like all these variables, and how do I start, and where do I pull the information apart? And for those of you who do have really good clinicians or clinical teams that are willing to sit down with you, really take the time within the data that you're collecting to pull the pieces apart. Please do so, because they're they're very wanting, if you have, again, a team that's willing to take the time use them, because that's a huge value to your being able to not do it all on your own, right? Also.

Scott Benner 8:36
And to give us a plug, by the time I came to you, when I was in like, episode 200 and said, Jenny, I think I have a system. Like, I know if I do these things that Arden say once he just ends up at six, Jenny was so kind and came on. That's how she's here today, like, and we made that Pro Tip series together. And what it ends up being is this blend of, we don't probably talk about this enough, but it's this blend of me, like, bootstrapping those ideas, and then you coming in and being like, Oh yeah, Scott, well, the thing you figured out is called this, and already had a name buddy. We could have told you about it, but there's something about and I hear from people all the time, Jenny, there's something about your experience and my experience blended together that allows people to listen and just go, Oh, I understand what they're saying now, because there are plenty of people who go to a great clinician and walk out and they're like, I don't know what the hell is happening. I don't

Jennifer Smith, CDE 9:27
understand anything more. I think it's the reason that when I have the opportunity that I'm so thankful for to work with the people I can, it really is a blending of it's a conversational education, right? And I think that's why, when we put these episodes together, especially the pro tips, right? It's that you can bring in experience. I can bring in experience along with a simpler educational explanation that makes it understandable again, in a clinical. Setting a lot of times the time factor is, is the hard piece. There's so much that has to go into it and it, it makes it difficult to completely give everything that I think most clinicians really want to be able to do. But no, I'm, I'm glad to be able to to put it together in an understandable way with you.

Scott Benner 10:19
I appreciate it very much. I'll talk to you later. Okay, bye.

If you're looking for community around type one diabetes, check out the Juicebox Podcast. Private, Facebook group, Juicebox Podcast, type one diabetes, but everybody is welcome type one, type two, gestational loved ones. It doesn't matter to me, if you're impacted by diabetes and you're looking for support, comfort or community, check out Juicebox Podcast type one diabetes on Facebook, if you or a loved one was just diagnosed with type one diabetes, and you're looking for some fresh perspective. The bowl beginning series from the Juicebox Podcast is a terrific place to start. That series is with myself and Jenny Smith. Jenny is a CD CES, a registered dietitian and a type one for over 35 years, and in the bowl beginning series, Jenny and I are going to answer the questions that most people have after a type one diabetes diagnosis. The series begins at episode 698, in your podcast player. Or you can go to Juicebox podcast.com and click on bold beginnings in the menu. Are you starting to see patterns, but you can't quite make sense of them. You're like, Oh, if I bowl this here, this happens, but I don't know what to do. Should I put in a little less, a little more? If you're starting to have those thoughts, you're starting to think this isn't going the way the doctor said it would. I think I see something here, but I can't be sure. Once you're having those thoughts, you're ready for the diabetes Pro Tip series from the Juicebox Podcast. It begins at Episode 1000 you can also find it at Juicebox podcast.com up in the menu, and you can find a list in the private Facebook group. Just check right under the featured tab at the top, it'll show you lists of a ton of stuff, including the Pro Tip series, which runs from episode 1000 to 1025 I can't thank you enough for listening. Please make sure you're subscribed or following in your audio app. I'll be back tomorrow with another episode of The Juicebox Podcast, the episode you just heard was professionally edited by wrong way recording, wrongway recording.com.

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#1421 Small Sips: Insulin Used Now Is For Later

Insulin success is a lot about timing.

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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends, welcome to the sips series.

These foundational strategies were nominated by listeners. They told me, these are the ideas in the podcast that truly made a difference for them. So I distilled them down into short, actionable insights. There's not going to be any fluff or complex jargon, just practical, real world diabetes management that you can start applying today. And I know your time is valuable, so we're keeping these short. Another small sip will come out once a week for the foreseeable future. If you like what you hear, check out the Pro Tip series or the bold beginning series for more. Those series are available in the menu at Juicebox podcast.com and you can find complete lists of all of the series in the featured tab on the private Facebook group. Please remember that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan or becoming bold with insulin. The questions you have, I guarantee you there's answers to them in the Juicebox Podcast, and it's all free. You

Jenny, insulin used now is for later. What's happening to you now is from insulin you used previously. Correct. So this is in a number of different episodes. I talked about it in 506, listening to the doctor. It's in a bumping and nudging episode. It's in an episode of The Pro Tip series called The perfect Bolus. But in general, it just struck me one day, while I've been talking to people for so long that a lot of people look at their graph, where they look at their finger stick, and they try to assess this thing that's happening to me right now, and they only see the other things happening right now. Like, didn't mean, like, it's almost like, if someone tapped you on the shoulder, you wouldn't think to go back three hours to see who you let into the house. Like, right? You know what I mean? Like, just, you're like, Oh, who's here? What's happening, right? So there

Jennifer Smith, CDE 2:24
are lots of different points in your day where if you start to use your data and evaluate your data, you'll be able to see this spelled out pretty easily. I see it a lot again, in Bolus strategizing, where you haven't been Pre Bolus in great we've gotten to the idea of starting to Pre Bolus and then, well, I can't Pre Bolus because I'm going low within five minutes. So this brings in the perfect picture of it's not that Bolus, that Bolus did not drive your blood sugar low in five minutes. I promise. I'd bet a million dollars that I don't have that it was not this Bolus. Instead, I again looking at graphs and everything we talked about those trend lines and the arrows in CGM, if you're already dipping coming into a meal Bolus time, right? You have insulin pulling that blood sugar in that downward direction already, so the fact of getting low in five minutes after taking that Bolus, it was not the Bolus fault. Instead, we should look for a trend, and if this is always happening coming into a meal, then first we have to stop that trend down so you can adequately Pre Bolus and get some confidence around Pre Bolus saying because you're not going low anymore. Yeah,

Scott Benner 3:43
I'm gonna get back to insulin now, is for later in a second, but the amount of times that I've heard people say I can't Pre Bolus because I Pre Bolus yesterday, and like you said, it's five minutes I didn't have a time to eat, and my blood sugar dropped at the floor. But these are the same people who are telling me, like, insulin takes forever to work, and I don't know, like, it's never does what I want it to do. And so my point, I guess, is that you have to time shift in your head a little bit. And I guess the way the the sayings ended up being insulin now is for later. Was my way of saying that what's happening to you right now is not because of what you did with insulin just now and then to like, adjust it out further. I started finding that it was easier for people to think about like, Well, what I did in the past is impacting what's happening right now, correct? Yeah, there's 1000 different examples of this. If your blood sugar is getting high at, you know, midnight, it's probably from dinner. Could be, could be, might not be, I don't know, but you need to assess it that way first. Like, maybe, you know, maybe your doctor turns your basal down at 10pm and that's why you're getting high at at midnight that night. But that's still the same idea. It is. Yes, the thing that happened at 10 is what's impacting you at midnight. So. Once you understand that you have a good, like, feel for it, then you can start understanding greater that what I'm doing right now is for later, and so I can make decisions in the moment that will make 23456, hours from now, better. It's more stable. Yeah, yeah. You just gotta have to wrap your head around it's not like stepping on the brake of a car. It's not like I need to stop now I'll push on this pedal. And

Jennifer Smith, CDE 5:27
that's the whole idea around understanding insulin to begin with. Is that we have something that I really wish we could change the name the way that we think about it. We call it rapid insulin. It is not rapid. It may be more rapid than I lived with eons ago, which took a really long time to get moving, but it still is not instantaneous. And I think those two words people think of as being the same thing, and it takes movement for that insulin. And one of the first places I bring in the concept of that insulin, you know now is for something you're going to impact later, is in the basal testing time period where we're really looking at segments of the day without any Bolus or anything in them, and we can say, Okay, well, blood sugar rising, like you said, at midnight. We don't change the basal rate at midnight, right? It's a backed up, because that's going to take at least an hour or two of circulating change in a basal amount to impact by midnight to stop the rise or fall.

Scott Benner 6:31
But do you know how many people just heard you say that and thought, Wait, you don't I know? Yeah, yeah. Why not? Like I'm getting low at midnight. I'll change my setting at midnight. It's because insulin takes time to begin working. And Jenny's point is so good that, you know, when they came up with faster insulin and called it like rapid acting insulin, compared to what they were replacing, it was rapid. It was insanely rapid. They were like, Oh my God, look at it. It's like an hour. It's working, right? Yeah, it is one of those things that, like, you know, we name something because of, you know, what made sense in the moment. And now that's not people's expectation of rapid anymore, especially in this, I mean, in a, I hate to say I sound old, I think, but like in a social media, like, right now, yeah, rapid doesn't mean that. So anyway, insulin used now is for later. What's happening to you now is from insulin you used in the past, correct? Here's an example, just because you're 75 like, people are like, Why can't Pre Bolus my meal, I was 80 before I ate. And I always tell them, like the number, like, being 80 doesn't make the insulin magically work faster. Like, you know, I know you have a shorter distance to go to being low and being you know, concerned, but you can still with a stable 80 blood sugar that is not being impacted by anything that happened before, you can still Pre Bolus, just like you would Pre Bolus anything else, correct? Yeah, that's all Yes, all right, excellent. The music, if you or a loved one was just diagnosed with type one diabetes, and you're looking for some fresh perspective. The bold beginning series from the Juicebox Podcast is a terrific place to start. That series is with myself and Jenny Smith. Jenny is a CD CES, a registered dietitian and a type one for over 35 years, and in the bowl beginning series, Jenny and I are going to answer the questions that most people have after a type one diabetes diagnosis. The series begins at episode 698 in your podcast player, or you can go to Juicebox podcast.com and click on bold beginnings in the menu.

Are you starting to see patterns, but you can't quite make sense of them? You're like, Oh, if I Bolus here, this happens, but I don't know what to do. Should I put in a little less, a little more? If you're starting to have those thoughts, you're starting to think this isn't going the way the doctor said it would. I think I see something here, but I can't be sure. Once you're having those thoughts, you're ready for the diabetes Pro Tip series from the Juicebox Podcast. It begins at Episode 1000 you can also find it at Juicebox podcast.com up in the menu, and you can find a list in the private Facebook group. Just check right under the featured tab at the top, it'll show you lists of a ton of stuff, including the Pro Tip series, which runs from episode 1000 to 1025 I want to thank you so much for listening and remind you please subscribe and follow to the podcast wherever you're listening right now, if it's YouTube, Apple podcast, Spotify, or any other audio app, go hit follow or subscribe, whichever your app allows for, and set up those downloads so you never miss an episode, especially an apple podcast, go into your settings and choose, download all new episodes. Thank you so much for listening. I'll be back very soon with another episode of The Juicebox Podcast. The episode. Episode You just heard was professionally edited by wrong way. Recording, wrong way recording.com.

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#1420 Small Sips: Diabetes Is Hard

Diabetes is always hard, but it doesn't have to feel impossible.

1️⃣ Mastery Comes with Practice – Just like a pro athlete trains to make their sport look effortless, managing diabetes becomes more intuitive over time through experience, learning, and repetition.

2️⃣ Find the Right Support – Not every doctor, educator, or resource will click with you. Keep searching until you find the voices and tools that make diabetes management clearer and more achievable.

3️⃣ Diabetes Doesn’t Get Easier, But You Get Better – The challenges don’t disappear, but with time, knowledge, and the right approach, managing diabetes can feel far less overwhelming.

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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends, welcome to the sips series.

I am in the position very frequently, where newly diagnosed people are looking to me for help or answers or direction, and while they are speaking, it becomes obvious to you that they need encouragement. And I have said before that I think a lot of my job is like, I feel like I'm like a coach that just like, whacks you on the ass as you're running out of the field, and goes, you can do it. Go get them right. That kind of like an idea, but you actually physically have to say something to them at the end of your conversation. And that was hard for me. Like, what do you say? What are your parting words to somebody who's like, Hey, I just got diagnosed with type one diabetes. I'm freaking out. I don't think I'm gonna be able to eat the same anymore. They told me I can't run. I'm a huge runner. I don't understand it. My mom is telling me it's my fault. Like you're having that conversation with somebody, and then at the end there's a pause, and it's the time for Scott to speak, right? Like you're

Jennifer Smith, CDE 2:21
supposed to solve it all and give them rainbows and unicorns, right? You

Scott Benner 2:25
can't just go, I wouldn't worry about I think it'll be fine, right? What I've learned to tell people, which I believe, is that diabetes is hard, and I don't want to lie to you, I don't think it ever gets easier, but you can get so good at it that it could feel easy some days and sometimes more than that, like true this hard thing is hard, right? Think of yourself as Bryce Harper. Baseball is incredibly difficult, but when I watch him do it, I go, huh? I bet you I could do that, because he makes it look so easy right now, I'm not saying you have to be an all star to do this. I'm saying that after some time and experience and getting your feet under you, listening to bold beginnings, listening to pro tips, figuring out how insulin works, learning how about timing and amount, and learning how fat and protein impact your food, it could actually feel the way it feels for me now, and I'm not bragging to tell you that like I don't think about diabetes like that anymore, and that I am not burdened by it, right? Like, big picture stuff. I wish my daughter didn't have auto immune issues, and there's stuff that comes along with it, I probably sell my leg to make go away for, like, Do you know what I mean? But like, I'm not burdened by it, and most of the time, and I say this with a lot of deference, and I realize I don't have type one, and I'm just a caregiver. It does feel easy to me most days, but it's because I know what to do when something happened, right? Yeah, your

Jennifer Smith, CDE 3:48
example of like a baseball player or a basketball player, just because they look good on the TV when you're watching these professional right? They have practiced, that's right, their sport so much that 99% of the time they're going to catch the catch, they're going to make the shot, they're going to do the thing that they expect to happen, because they've practiced, and they know how it works. And eventually, with diabetes, you will get to that point. Is it going to happen a week from diagnosis? No, and I feel horrible saying that too. Yeah, right. Easy is not a word that belongs in discussion with diabetes. Diabetes is not easy. Yeah, it's not but as you figure out your variables, and they are your variables as you figure them out and grow into, you know, from five to 20 or however, whenever you were diagnosed, you're going to find the things that do work most of the time. It is going to be easier, despite still having to put thought into the picture that. You'd otherwise be like, I really wish I didn't have to think about it. I do too. 36 years I'm still like, man, if the nail in the corner was like, I'll just take that all from you, I'd be like, Sure,

Scott Benner 5:09
years ago, I've done some pretty heavy joking. If you just said to me, like, just kill one person you've never met before, I'd be like, Oh, I could probably do that. It's terrible. I would do anything to get rid of it. I wouldn't hurt another person, but I would do almost anything else to get rid of it. Your example is so spot on. While you were talking, you know, my son's older now. He's going to be 25 Gosh, next month, but in college and his entire life, he played baseball. And I have a video on my I always tell people, don't tell him this if you ever meet him, but like, I have his last college home run video on my desktop. And every once in a while, I pop it up and I watch it, and it's in a bat where he takes a ball and he doesn't swing, and he gets a high, fast ball, and he cuts at it, and he misses it, and then the guy tries to throw him a breaking pitch off the plate, and he just hits it. And they were in a stadium that day. So they were in a professional baseball stadium, and my son hit the ball out of the stadium, like on in right field, right out over the wall, over the grandstand, out of the stadium. It's a minor league park, but it's a full size stadium. If you watch that video, you just think like, wow, that. Look how good that kid is at that but as you're talking, what I recalled, moreover, was three days a week, all summer long, with an instructor by himself on a baseball field, hitting 300 baseballs, 100% 95 degrees outside, humidity. It's not even baseball season anymore, like right now. It's cold and he's doing it now. He's inside, and he's doing it hundreds and hundreds of baseballs and so much, and I'm not kidding you so much failure and despair and wanting to give up and cursing and screaming and crying and throwing things for years and years and years and years and years to hit one fcking home run in college. Yeah, and I guarantee he wouldn't trade it in so

Jennifer Smith, CDE 7:03
he wouldn't know. And what, what stuck there is, I got this sense once I started really running, is the concept of in the moment, he knew internally that he was going to hit that ball. That was the home run. He knew it was going to happen, the connection. He could feel it. He was like, that was it like, it's this feeling of, I know I'm doing I've put all the pieces together in the right way. This run is 100% the pace, the way the breathing, everything is fitting together. But it's only because you've done it for

Scott Benner 7:39
so long, and if, for some reason, it doesn't work out, you just do it again. You do it right? Yeah, right. Because success isn't going to come quickly, and it might come more difficultly to some people than others. You know, in the end, I you know, the goal is not to always hit a home run. My son became a very good hitter, and it took him years, like, years and years and years to do it during COVID, when we were all hiding in our houses, my son, like, flew across the country and, like, worked in a place that was still up and running, and just they hit a baseball, like, because everybody else stopped playing baseball, he's like, I'm not going to stop playing that's what makes that home run magical. Like, it's not about the home run. Like, I see him four years old and 10 years old and 12 and 15 when he hits it, like, in all the effort and the work he put into it, and the good news is, around diabetes, you're not gonna have to put nearly as much work into diabetes as you are into learning how to hit a fastball. Like, because that's that's hard too. It's not going to take you 15 years to learn your diabetes, no, right? And so to me, like, That's it, like diabetes is hard. I wouldn't take that from anybody. I don't know what it's like to have it. I do know what it's like to help somebody with it. It's hard for me. I can see how hard it is for her, even though I don't imagine I completely understand it. But most days, it's not that hard, and that it comes from doing that work and not just blindly trying, but purposefully trying. I can't tell you how many bad hitting coaches my son had, and what a moment it was when he met a good one. You know what I mean, when he got good tools to practice repetition on anyway, right? Yeah,

Jennifer Smith, CDE 9:19
and or a good connection, I think that actually brings in a good point of maybe the other ones were good, but they weren't personality matches for how he was going to receive the information and the instruction from them the same in diabetes, right? You may find the educator, the clinician that you click with, and that might be after going through 246, of them, yeah, but keep

Scott Benner 9:43
looking right? Well, Jenny, there's a reason. Now, listen, you're Midwestern. Everybody loves you, but, like, it's just, it's just the way I say, Oh, listen, I could probably line up a couple of 50,000 people to, like, show up for me. You know what I mean, who would tell you? Like, great things. I could. Probably find exactly as many people who hate my guts and don't like the way I talk or the way I say things. I know people who like me who don't like me. I'm actually thinking of a person right now who I think genuinely likes me and hates me at the same exact time and around diabetes, right? And I know Pete, your wife, no, no, no, she's we've been married for 30 years, she just doesn't like me most of the time. My point is, is that my message, my tone, my the way I do things like the way I just said, What I said is gonna vibe with some people. And I've seen it recently online. Someone said, You know what I love about Scott? No bullshit with Scott. Just says it in another episode recently, I just thank the ADA for finding their balls on something. That's not a thing most people say out loud, right? But at the same time, I could come off course or abrasive, or I gotta. I got a review the other day. The woman's like, I love this podcast. I wish she'd stop saying Jesus Christ, and God damn so much. I'm not even saying it on purpose, but I grew up in the 70s, and there was a lot of cursing. It's how it comes out of my mouth. Like, I don't even know what to tell you, right? So that's a good point. If you're not vibing with the person you're doing the thing with, stop beating your head against the wall and go find somebody else, right? Yeah, same with this podcast, yeah,

Jennifer Smith, CDE 11:10
because you're gonna absorb the same information in a way that actually meets your need, and you're gonna use it, then go

Scott Benner 11:18
find what works for you. Pumps, CGM people, you're getting information from doctors, do not stand and beat your head against the wall, like don't. No, listen. I want you to listen to the podcast, but if I'm not right for you, then go find something else that will help you. I mean, stay subscribed and keep downloading the episodes to help and stuff like that. But you don't have to listen.

Jennifer Smith, CDE 11:36
You know, you can read the transcripts. I mean, they're not always perfect. No,

Scott Benner 11:41
listen, AI is doing a pretty good job making those transcripts. All right. Thank you very much. Sure.

if you or a loved one was just diagnosed with type one diabetes, and you're looking for some fresh perspective. The bowl beginning series from the Juicebox Podcast is a terrific place to start. That series is with myself and Jenny Smith. Jenny is a CD CES, a registered dietitian and a type one for over 35 years, and in the bowl beginnings series, Jenny and I are going to answer the questions that most people have after a type one diabetes diagnosis. The series begins at episode 698 in your podcast player, or you can go to Juicebox podcast.com and click on bold beginnings in the menu. If you're not already subscribed or following in your favorite audio app. Please take the time now to do that. It really helps the show and get those automatic downloads set up so you never miss an episode. Thank you so much for listening. I'll be back very soon with another episode of The Juicebox Podcast. The episode you just heard was professionally edited by wrong way recording, wrong way recording.com and.

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