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#1747 Tandem Kids: Adelaine

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LIVE At Friends for Life, Scott talks with Adeline, a confident 10-year-old with type 1 diabetes, about diagnosis, pumps, school, friendships, and learning to manage diabetes with pride.

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ScScott Benner (0:00) I attended my first ever Friends for Life conference in July 2025. (0:05) And while I was there, I interviewed eight children of various ages, all who wear a Tandem pump. (0:10) I wanna thank Tandem Diabetes for sponsoring this short episode of the Juice Box podcast. (0:16) Check them out at tandemdiabetes.com/juicebox. (0:22) Nothing you hear on the Juice Box podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise.

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Scott Benner (1:06) So we are here in Orlando, Florida at Friends four Life. (1:09) Why don't you tell me your name?

Adeline (1:11) Adeline.

Scott Benner (1:12) Adeline. (1:12) How old

Adeline (1:12) are you? (1:13) 10.

Scott Benner (1:13) 10. (1:14) Okay. (1:14) You have type one diabetes? (1:16) Yes. (1:16) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:17) When were you diagnosed?

Adeline (1:19) Last year, 2020 January 2024.

Scott Benner (1:21) 2024. (1:22) Okay. (1:23) Can you tell me what happened? (1:24) Like, how did you figure out you had diabetes?

Adeline (1:27) Well, I got into DKA and I was, like, really sick, and then at, like, 1AM in the morning, I went to hospital, the ambulance, and, and then right away, the the paramedics knew that what I had, but they couldn't say it for sure.

Scott Benner (1:45) Yeah.

Adeline (1:45) And then the ER, they made it for sure. (1:48) And then

Scott Benner (1:49) Were you sick for a long time before that day?

Adeline (1:52) It had been a little bit off and on, but from, like, that week that week where, like, I did go to the hospital, it was more

Scott Benner (2:02) You started to feel sick? (2:03) Yeah. (2:04) Were you just, like, laying around and felt yucky?

Adeline (2:06) Yeah. (2:06) And then I couldn't keep anything down, and I just wanted to keep drinking water.

Scott Benner (2:10) You were super thirsty? (2:11) Mhmm. (2:11) Yeah. (2:11) Can I tell you a story? (2:13) One time, a lady came on.

Scott Benner (2:15) She was, like, an adult with type one. (2:17) She was, like, 30 years old. (2:18) And she told me that her mom told her that the way they diagnosed her with type one diabetes, she was a toddler, like, know, like, crawled and could stand up a little bit but didn't walk well. (2:26) They found her drinking out of the toilet. (2:29) That's how thirsty the little baby was.

Scott Benner (2:31) Like, and then you couldn't ask for drinks or anything like Did you feel that thirsty?

Adeline (2:35) Yeah.

Scott Benner (2:36) Yeah. (2:36) Yeah. (2:37) So what were you just constantly drinking?

Adeline (2:38) Yeah. (2:39) And then I had to go to the bathroom a lot, and then I was like, I was full of water, but then I keep I was wanting to drink more.

Scott Benner (2:45) Did your parents notice? (2:46) Did somebody say, why are you drinking so much water?

Adeline (2:49) Well, not really with water but I couldn't eat anything. (2:52) Mhmm. (2:52) And it was like, I had been losing weight and stuff like that. (2:56) Yeah. (2:56) So they figured that out.

Scott Benner (2:58) Figured it out pretty quickly. (2:59) And then how long were you in the hospital for?

Adeline (3:01) I think it was five days.

Scott Benner (3:03) Okay. (3:03) Alright. (3:04) How old are you now?

Adeline (3:05) 10.

Scott Benner (3:05) 10 years old. (3:06) Do you play sports? (3:08) No. (3:08) No. (3:09) So being in the play is is your activity.

Scott Benner (3:11) Right?

Adeline (3:11) Yeah. (3:12) I also do palm at my school, but that's kinda that ends, like, near December.

Scott Benner (3:19) So, like, in What is it?

Adeline (3:20) Palm. (3:20) It's like cheer but with but with dancing.

Scott Benner (3:23) Oh, okay.

Adeline (3:24) And but that ends in around December to make room for the play.

Scott Benner (3:28) Okay. (3:28) So So when you leave the hospital, did they give you, like, needles?

Adeline (3:32) Yeah. (3:32) Yeah. (3:33) I'm pretty sure.

Scott Benner (3:33) Yeah. (3:34) And did you get a CGM?

Adeline (3:36) Not right away, but, like, I think it was, like, a couple weeks later maybe. (3:41) Okay.

Scott Benner (3:42) And then who brings up getting an insulin pump? (3:44) Is that something your parents thought about or is it a thing you thought about?

Adeline (3:47) I feel like I it was more a thing that I thought about for a little longer.

Scott Benner (3:51) How did you did you learn about them?

Adeline (3:53) Well, knowing like, there's other people in my school that are that are in my grade that have pumps.

Scott Benner (4:00) Oh, okay.

Adeline (4:00) Somebody that have diabetes, and so it kinda came up, and then I was just thinking about it because it would be easier than having to take shots all the time.

Scott Benner (4:08) So you have close friends that have type one?

Adeline (4:10) Not close friends, but people in my great town.

Scott Benner (4:13) People who you've seen Yeah. (4:14) With them. (4:15) And that made you feel comfortable enough to, like, ask them if it was something they liked or just to think about maybe this is something

Adeline (4:21) I think should about.

Scott Benner (4:22) To think about it. (4:23) How does it feel walking around here this week and seeing so many people wearing pumps and CGMs?

Adeline (4:28) It feels like I don't know. (4:30) Like, it feels like that, like, there's so many. (4:35) So, like, it feels like that not that I'm not normal anyways, but it feels like that I'm more, like, kinda, like,

Scott Benner (4:41) you know. (4:42) Less last night I know

Adeline (4:44) what you mean.

Scott Benner (4:44) Last night, I went to dinner and there were three girls sitting next to me. (4:48) They were probably, like, in their early twenties, and they were pretty clearly not related, but they all knew each other really well. (4:54) And I didn't notice anything else about them except for that when we sat down. (4:58) And then when they got done and stood up, each of them had a CGM on their arm and I got very emotional thinking about my daughter and how she has a few friends who have type one and it means a lot to me that she knows those people. (5:10) So, okay, so you meet these, you know, you see these people at school, you think, alright, they've got this stuff, let me ask about it too.

Scott Benner (5:16) You go to your parents, say, wanna get a pump, how do you end up getting well, what pump do you have?

Adeline (5:20) The Tandem Moby.

Scott Benner (5:21) You have the Moby? (5:22) Mhmm. (5:22) How did you decide to get that one?

Adeline (5:24) I think once we, like, once we knew more about, like, how to handle type one diabetes and everything, I think we were all more ready to actually get the pump.

Scott Benner (5:36) Yeah.

Adeline (5:36) Because, like, to know instead of getting it straight away when you don't know

Scott Benner (5:40) as Is there something about the Mobi that made you think that's the one I should have?

Adeline (5:44) I think because I think the main reason was because, like, the tubing I can put on my pants and stuff like that, and it's one of the more newer ones. (5:52) Yeah. (5:53) So yeah.

Scott Benner (5:54) Think How are you liking it?

Adeline (5:55) I like it a lot.

Scott Benner (5:57) Cool. (5:57) That's awesome. (5:58) Do any of your friends at school have it or they all wearing different ones?

Adeline (6:02) One one person at school has the tantal Do

Scott Benner (6:05) you guys kinda have, like, a little do you, like, fist bump or stuff when you see each other? (6:09) No. (6:10) Not really? (6:10) It's not

Scott Benner (6:11) that cool?

Scott Benner (6:12) I gotcha. (6:14) So tell me this. (6:17) Like, you you're at school. (6:19) You're seeing kids. (6:21) A lot of some of them have type one, most of them don't.

Scott Benner (6:24) Do other kids ask you about diabetes?

Adeline (6:26) A lot.

Scott Benner (6:26) Yeah? (6:27) What do they end up asking you the most?

Adeline (6:28) They end up asking me because they see it on my arm, my Dexcom, and I'm like, oh, what's on your arm?

Scott Benner (6:33) Yeah.

Adeline (6:34) And I'll try to explain it kinda explain it to them and then they just basically say, okay, and they walk away Yeah. (6:39) Not knowing anything.

Scott Benner (6:39) Are you are you like, is it a thing you try to hide or are you proud about it?

Adeline (6:44) No. (6:44) I'm proud of it.

Scott Benner (6:45) Yeah. (6:45) That's awesome. (6:46) That's really cool. (6:47) Do your friends and you ever talk about diabetes? (6:51) What do you know?

Adeline (6:52) Mostly my closest ones know more about it because I've told them more about it.

Scott Benner (6:57) Mhmm.

Adeline (6:58) But sometimes my other friends, they kinda they ask questions and I try to explain it to them, but they probably don't understand a thing I'm saying. (7:06) Yeah.

Scott Benner (7:07) How do you decide who to share it with and who not to?

Adeline (7:12) I feel like more, like, of my closer friends, like, ones that I feel like would actually understand it more and would actually, like

Scott Benner (7:19) Yeah. (7:20) So when you're hanging out with friends, if you needed something, would they know how to help you?

Adeline (7:25) Some of them.

Scott Benner (7:25) Yeah. (7:26) Some of them would? (7:26) You know, you can you picture the ones in your head right now that you would trust?

Adeline (7:30) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (7:30) Yeah. (7:31) Have you been on a sleepover yet?

Adeline (7:33) Not yet. (7:35) No. (7:35) Yeah. (7:36) No.

Scott Benner (7:36) How do you think you'll how do you think you'll handle a sleepover?

Adeline (7:39) I don't know exactly yet, but I feel like when I'm older, especially, like, I will be able to handle on my own a little bit more better than I can now.

Scott Benner (7:51) I think so too. (7:52) Has having diabetes taught you anything? (7:56) Like, do you have any big revelations, like things you've figured out about the world or yourself or anything? (8:02) Have you been proud of yourself?

Adeline (8:04) Yeah. (8:04) To be able to do I was in a play this year too and I this summer, I went to a music camp. (8:11) Mhmm. (8:11) There wasn't really, like, anybody there that really had type one diabetes, and so to be able to do that, I feel like

Scott Benner (8:19) Felt like you were really accomplishing something. (8:21) Right? (8:21) Because all those other kids, they just showed up and did their thing. (8:24) Mhmm. (8:24) And and what are the what are the things that you had to do for yourself while you were at camp that you were proud of?

Adeline (8:29) That I had, like, I had to, like, keep a check on my blood sugar, and then it was like it was I was like well, just basically, like because it was more it wasn't it was a music camp, so it wasn't like that too exercising, but it kinda was. (8:49) And so to be able to handle my blood sugars while having to do a lot of other things too.

Scott Benner (8:54) Were your parents nervous when you went to camp?

Adeline (8:58) I I think a little bit Yeah. (9:00) But I don't think too much.

Scott Benner (9:02) Gotcha. (9:03) Do you think anything has changed in your relationship with your parents since you've had type one? (9:06) Are they bothering you a whole bunch about stuff?

Adeline (9:08) No. (9:09) Not really. (9:09) That's good.

Scott Benner (9:10) What's your favorite loaf snack?

Adeline (9:13) Probably Smarties or just like fruit snacks.

Scott Benner (9:17) Smarties or fruit snacks. (9:19) Do you have a favorite color of the Smarties?

Adeline (9:21) Probably the more pinkish, reddish

Scott Benner (9:24) Yeah. (9:24) One. (9:24) Do you ever mix the two colors together to get a different flavor?

Adeline (9:27) No. (9:27) I've never done that.

Scott Benner (9:28) No. (9:28) You should try it. (9:29) Then go back and forth. (9:30) I don't wanna say it, but could give you some good mixtures later. (9:34) And and gummies.

Adeline (9:35) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (9:35) Right? (9:36) Okay. (9:37) During the day? (9:38) Gummies at night, when do you

Adeline (9:39) use them? (9:39) Just whenever because I normally use Smarties more because it works faster, but gummies, like, they help, like like, if it's, you're almost gonna go low, but you haven't yet to have a little something. (9:54) Yeah. (9:54) But yeah. (9:55) Daughter uses

Scott Benner (9:56) gummy bears. (9:57) Like, they're good. (9:58) Do you know why that works so well? (10:02) Wanna hear something boring?

Adeline (10:03) Yeah. (10:03) It's really weird.

Scott Benner (10:04) When you're chewing up the gummy bears

Adeline (10:06) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (10:07) The insides of your cheeks are absorbing the glucose, and it acts faster than if you swallowed it and it goes in your stomach. (10:15) So actually, the longer you chew it, the quicker it will impact your blood sugar. (10:18) It's a little tip that you can use while you're eating gummy bears in the middle of the night. (10:24) Do you have any pets?

Adeline (10:25) No. (10:25) Actually, no.

Scott Benner (10:26) Do you want a pet?

Adeline (10:27) Yeah. (10:28) Kind of. (10:28) Yeah.

Scott Benner (10:29) Awesome. (10:29) Let's get it worked out now because your parents are here. (10:31) Like, what what kind of pet would you like? (10:33) I'm I can probably make this happen for you.

Adeline (10:34) Probably, like, a Cordy, like a dog.

Scott Benner (10:38) A dog? (10:38) Mhmm. (10:39) Mom, dad, can we get a dog?

Scott Benner (10:41) Look at you. (10:42) You're getting a dog. (10:43) Can you name it Scott? (10:45) Dog. (10:46) Please.

Scott Benner (10:46) Because I want your parents to remember when they're looking at that dog and they're thinking, like, I did not want a dog and then a guy told the kid he could have a dog and now we got a dog. (10:54) You know what I mean? (10:54) Like and then you're like, here's Scott, and they'll be reminded of it the whole time. (10:57) It's not a good name, is it, for a dog. (10:59) What would you call your dog?

Adeline (11:01) I don't know. (11:02) It depends if it's a boy or a girl, but if it's a girl, I like the name Mirabel.

Scott Benner (11:07) Mirabel? (11:08) Nice.

Adeline (11:08) Then if it's a boy, I do like Biscuit, like that type type of name.

Scott Benner (11:12) Yeah. (11:13) Like a doggy name? (11:14) Mhmm. (11:14) Yeah. (11:14) So it seems like you've been thinking about this for a while.

Adeline (11:17) Yeah. (11:17) Kind of.

Scott Benner (11:18) Have you mentioned it to your parents before?

Adeline (11:20) I mean, kind of, but not really.

Scott Benner (11:22) Mhmm. (11:23) How's the time? (11:24) You know what I'm saying? (11:25) Like, they're gonna be on a big, oh, we just got back from from Florida. (11:28) We went to Disney.

Scott Benner (11:29) Oh, we had such a good time. (11:30) Right? (11:31) Yeah. (11:31) Awesome. (11:32) What color?

Scott Benner (11:32) Do they only come in one color? (11:34) Do they come in one color? (11:36) Do corgis have a lot of different colors? (11:38) Do know?

Adeline (11:39) They're normally, like, orange and white, but I think they can have a little bit more of, a brown black color too.

Scott Benner (11:46) Yeah. (11:46) Do you think you're ready to take care of a dog?

Adeline (11:48) I think yeah. (11:49) So

Scott Benner (11:49) Yeah. (11:50) My daughter is 21. (11:51) She's not ready to do it yet. (11:53) She has a little puppy, sick of French bulldog. (11:56) And yesterday evening, I called her.

Scott Benner (11:59) I was like, how are doing? (12:00) She's like, I'm so tired. (12:01) I like, was what are you tired from? (12:02) She's like, taking care of this dog all day. (12:04) And I was like, yeah.

Scott Benner (12:04) It's a lot of work. (12:06) So anyway, do you have, I know you've only had type one for a little while, but is there, like, somebody out in the world that has type one who you kinda look at and think, not maybe, like, I don't know, a hero, but, like, something to look up to?

Adeline (12:20) I don't know. (12:23) I do like, we watch Dancing With The Stars, and I do, like, Riley Arnold.

Scott Benner (12:29) Yeah.

Adeline (12:29) Boys liked her.

Scott Benner (12:31) Yeah.

Adeline (12:31) She just seems like a good person too. (12:33) So make That's type one.

Scott Benner (12:34) Does it make you feel like that's another example of something I could easily do if I wanted to?

Adeline (12:38) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (12:39) Right? (12:39) Yeah. (12:39) It's awesome. (12:40) There have been gosh. (12:41) I I know a guy named Chris.

Scott Benner (12:44) Right? (12:44) And he is an Olympic skier, and he does, like, that cross country skiing. (12:49) He's retired now, but he's been in the Olympics four times with diabetes. (12:52) Like, just skiing across, like, I don't know how he does what he's doing. (12:57) Also, you're from the South, so you've probably never even seen snow, but snow do you know what it is?

Adeline (13:01) Yeah.

Scott Benner (13:01) You do know what snow is?

Adeline (13:02) Yeah.

Scott Benner (13:03) Have you ever seen it in person?

Adeline (13:04) Yeah. (13:04) A couple times, but it's rare.

Scott Benner (13:07) Yeah. (13:07) But can you imagine racing across it on sticks on your feet? (13:10) No. (13:10) That's ridiculous, right? (13:11) No.

Scott Benner (13:12) Yeah. (13:12) And he just does it like it's nothing. (13:14) These are some yeah. (13:16) He's in such good shape. (13:17) It's crazy.

Scott Benner (13:18) The beast anyway, this is neither here nor there. (13:21) I think that most people who have success with diabetes know how to handle their settings and make changes when they need them because things change all the time, right? (13:29) Yeah. (13:30) Like some days, what? (13:31) Some days it all works out really well.

Scott Benner (13:33) The next day you're like, what's happening? (13:35) And then you look back and you think, oh, maybe I was more active today or I didn't sleep as much last night. (13:40) There's a lot of different things that can impact it. (13:42) It's smart to be able to, like, make your adjustments. (13:44) You've learned that already?

Scott Benner (13:45) Mhmm. (13:45) Yeah? (13:46) Do you know what your a one c is?

Adeline (13:48) Last time, I think it was 6.2.

Scott Benner (13:50) That's awesome. (13:51) Good for you. (13:52) Who who's who helps you more with your type one, your mom or your dad?

Adeline (13:55) I don't know because I feel like it's pretty equal.

Scott Benner (13:58) Yeah? (13:58) That's awesome.

Adeline (13:59) I don't know.

Scott Benner (14:00) Yeah? (14:00) So you don't know which one you're gonna see at nighttime?

Adeline (14:03) Normally, it's my dad

Scott Benner (14:05) Yeah.

Adeline (14:06) At nighttime, but I don't know. (14:09) No? (14:10) I feel like it's pretty equal.

Scott Benner (14:10) It's pretty equal. (14:11) And now did how does it work? (14:13) Do you know a bunch about it and they know a bunch about it, or do they know a lot? (14:17) They're teaching you? (14:18) Are you guys all learning together?

Adeline (14:19) Well, we all know a lot.

Scott Benner (14:22) What you're supposed to be doing. (14:23) Yeah. (14:23) That's awesome. (14:24) How did you learn?

Adeline (14:26) When we went I mean, we're going to the endocrinologist and, like like, diabetes trainers, especially at first, and then with the pump, with, like, a special person that does that.

Scott Benner (14:37) Nice. (14:37) So you just listen to the doctor and you're putting it into play and it's working?

Adeline (14:41) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (14:41) I didn't ask you what what what instrument do you play?

Adeline (14:45) Oh, well, this year, fifth grade does strings up to high school, and so I'm gonna play the violin. (14:52) And then at camp, we played, like, the African drums

Scott Benner (14:56) Really?

Adeline (14:57) And the ukuleles.

Scott Benner (14:58) Nice. (14:58) Have you ever played the violin before?

Adeline (15:00) No.

Scott Benner (15:00) No? (15:01) You excited to do it?

Adeline (15:02) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (15:02) Yeah. (15:03) I wanted to play the cello when I was little, but they didn't have a cello, so I got a saxophone, and I didn't like that. (15:11) So I never got a chance, but I love the cello. (15:13) Do you like listening to violin music?

Adeline (15:15) Yeah.

Scott Benner (15:16) Yeah? (15:16) Does it make you relaxed?

Adeline (15:18) Yeah.

Scott Benner (15:18) Do you notice does your blood sugar change if you're relaxed or excited or scared?

Adeline (15:23) Yeah. (15:23) I feel like it goes higher if I'm excited or scared, but when I'm more, like, calm and stuff like that, I feel like it can say more in

Scott Benner (15:30) the same range. (15:31) You're gonna learn all kinds of stuff like that as you get older, and it's gonna help you while you're taking care of everything. (15:35) Is there anything you wanna ask me?

Adeline (15:38) I don't think so.

Scott Benner (15:39) Is there anything I forgot to ask you that you wanna tell me?

Adeline (15:44) I don't think so.

Scott Benner (15:46) No? (15:46) I hope you have a great time today. (15:47) I really appreciate you talking to me. (15:49) Thank you so much.

Adeline (15:50) You're welcome.

Scott Benner (15:51) Thank you.

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#1746 Defining Diabetes: Insulin Concentration

Scott and Jenny define "Insulin Concentration" in this Defining Diabetes episode.

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Scott Benner (0:0) Hello, friends, and welcome back to another episode of the Juice Box podcast. (0:14) Managing diabetes is difficult, but trying to do it when you don't understand the lingo, that's almost impossible. (0:21) The defining diabetes series began in 2019, and today we're adding to it. (0:26) Go to juiceboxpodcast.com up in the menu, click on defining diabetes, and you'll see a complete list of all the terms that we've defined so far. (0:36) If your loved one is newly diagnosed with type one diabetes and you're seeking a clear practical perspective, check out the Bold Beginnings series on the Juice Box podcast.

Scott Benner (0:45) It's hosted by myself and Jenny Smith, an experienced diabetes educator with over thirty five years of personal insight into type one. (0:53) Our series cuts through the medical jargon and delivers straightforward answers to your most pressing questions. (0:59) You'll gain insight from real patients and caregivers and find practical advice to help you confidently navigate life with type one. (1:06) You can start your journey informed and empowered with the Juice Box podcast. (1:10) The bold beginning series and all of the collections in the Juice Box podcast are available in your audio app and at juiceboxpodcast.com in the menu.

Scott Benner (1:19) Nothing you hear on the Juice Box podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. (1:23) Always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan. (1:29) Jenny, we are doing some new defining diabetes topics. (1:34) Hey. (1:35) And I have one here.

Scott Benner (1:37) I'm gonna start today with something that I just wanna say outright. (1:41) I don't understand. (1:42) And even if you don't feel comfortable defining it, like, you let me know.

Jenny Smith (1:46) Okay.

Scott Benner (1:46) But I have insulin concentration, like, u 200 insulin, diluted insulin. (1:53) Is there a way to explain it well enough so that people understand it without going in too deep and to be able to define it for them at the same time?

Jenny Smith (2:03) I think so.

Scott Benner (2:04) Okay.

Jenny Smith (2:04) I mean, if if in general, understand the concentration of anything at a 100%.

Scott Benner (2:13) Mhmm.

Jenny Smith (2:13) Right? (2:14) This is the normal amount of something that you get in the set one hundred percent dose. (2:20) Okay? (2:21) That's our normal and eons old u one hundred insulin. (2:27) That's what we use today.

Jenny Smith (2:29) Right? (2:29) So any of your NovoLog, even our insulin, NovoLog, Humalog, Apidra, they're all unit for unit. (2:38) You get a unit of effect in one unit of volume, meaning how much you draw up into a syringe or dial up on an insulin pen. (2:48) A unit gives you a unit of effect.

Scott Benner (2:51) Okay.

Jenny Smith (2:52) When you talk about concentration, though, and you get more into what are either, again, diluted insulin, which means that you take up the volume you would need, the volume in the number of units, but it's a smaller amount of insulin because anytime you dilute something, right, you make it kind of, like, dispersed

Scott Benner (3:16) Okay.

Jenny Smith (3:16) Almost more. (3:17) Does that make sense?

Scott Benner (3:18) It does.

Jenny Smith (3:18) Right? (3:19) And so if you dilute insulin, which is very common for little littles or people who may be super ultra sensitive to insulin, diluting insulin gives you an easier way to dose a tiny amount in a volume that can be measured, especially in an insulin syringe.

Scott Benner (3:40) Okay.

Jenny Smith (3:40) We dilute insulin. (3:41) Let's say you have, you know, a whole unit of insulin, but you can't deliver point one units with an insulin syringe. (3:52) You could do it with a pump, but you can't do it with an insulin syringe. (3:56) So we actually mix of the diluent, which you can get from the insulin companies. (4:02) Mhmm.

Jenny Smith (4:03) And you would mix that in a certain volume ratio along with the actual u one hundred insulin.

Scott Benner (4:13) So that you can get the impact that you desire and amount

Jenny Smith (4:16) A dose you can draw up.

Scott Benner (4:17) A dose that you can actually measure and draw up.

Jenny Smith (4:19) Yes.

Scott Benner (4:20) Okay.

Jenny Smith (4:20) Correct.

Scott Benner (4:21) So u one hundred insulin is a hundred units of insulin per milliliter. (4:26) Is that right?

Jenny Smith (4:27) Your bottles of insulin, like vials, I think, are the easiest to describe. (4:31) A vial of insulin and we measure I mean, the majority of people call insulin units. (4:37) Right? (4:37) We take a unit of insulin for whatever effect. (4:41) The whole entire vial of insulin has one thousand units of insulin.

Scott Benner (4:46) Okay. (4:47) So it's a 10 vial? (4:49) Got it. (4:50) Okay. (4:51) There's a thousand units of insulin in the vial.

Jenny Smith (4:53) Yes.

Scott Benner (4:55) Okay. (4:55) And the reason someone might want you two hundred insulin is because they're using more insulin, and it doesn't literally fit into the pump or it's a ton of the bolus under the skin and it becomes difficult to absorb?

Jenny Smith (5:10) It's more of an under the skin absorptive issue. (5:13) For some people, yes. (5:14) And, again, it would be entirely used off label if you're using it in a pump with u 200. (5:19) U 200 means that one unit of volume Mhmm. (5:23) Is providing two units of effect.

Scott Benner (5:27) Okay.

Jenny Smith (5:28) Right?

Scott Benner (5:28) Yep.

Jenny Smith (5:29) When you put it in a pump, we have to, again, off label. (5:33) This is not directions for people to do it.

Scott Benner (5:35) Yes. (5:35) Nothing. (5:36) You here on the Juice Box podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. (5:39) Always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan. (5:42) There you go, Jenny.

Scott Benner (5:42) Keep going.

Jenny Smith (5:42) Thank you, Scott. (5:43) You're welcome. (5:44) You would have to essentially adjust all of your doses. (5:48) Right? (5:48) Mhmm.

Jenny Smith (5:48) Your basal dose, your insulin to carb ratio, your correction factor. (5:52) They would all all have to be dose adjusted because now you're getting two units of effect in one volume unit.

Scott Benner (6:02) Okay. (6:03) Well, that's

Jenny Smith (6:04) Okay.

Scott Benner (6:04) How did you do that so simply? (6:06) I haven't understood this for years. (6:07) I actually understand now. (6:08) Thank you.

Jenny Smith (6:09) Yes. (6:10) Well and then there's even one even more concentrated. (6:13) It's u five hundred.

Scott Benner (6:14) 500.

Jenny Smith (6:15) Yes. (6:16) So what would that mean?

Scott Benner (6:18) Oh oh gosh. (6:20) Now I said I understood it. (6:21) Now you're testing me. (6:22) It's okay.

Jenny Smith (6:23) Use the u two hundred. (6:25) It's essentially the same thing, just even more concentrated.

Scott Benner (6:28) Yeah. (6:28) So one unit of liquid now has the impact of five units of insulin.

Jenny Smith (6:34) Correct. (6:34) U five hundred. (6:35) Five hundred is a really interest I mean, it's it's action that way that the insulin goes in, gets distributed, and decays. (6:44) It is very different, and you really would need to work with a provider who is very knowledgeable in u five hundred dosing Mhmm. (6:53) Because it's even more different than using u two hundred.

Scott Benner (6:56) You just, I think covered the the only real follow-up question I had, which is why do why is u 100 the standard? (7:04) Like, why you know mean? (7:05) Like, is but the way

Jenny Smith (7:06) That's a good question. (7:07) Honestly, I don't even know the I mean, the answer to that, I I would expect goes way back to, like, what how they formulated in the nineteen twenties, and they're like, hey. (7:17) We solved this problem.

Scott Benner (7:18) This seems to work. (7:19) Good luck, everybody.

Jenny Smith (7:20) To work. (7:21) Yeah.

Scott Benner (7:22) Well, I mean, my expectation is based on what you said. (7:25) Now, obviously, I'm making this up, but what jumped in my mind was if the u 500 works differently, then that means the u 200 works differently. (7:33) Maybe at u 100, this is the most uniformed trackable way they could formulate it so that it was doing what they expected most throughout, you know, a greater number of people.

Jenny Smith (7:45) I could be wrong. (7:46) The math of it. (7:47) Right? (7:47) One equals one helps. (7:49) Yeah.

Jenny Smith (7:49) Like, that's super easy for even basic math understanding from a kid level and under sixth grade sort of reading one to one that you can't really screw that up.

Scott Benner (8:00) Yeah.

Jenny Smith (8:00) Right?

Scott Benner (8:01) Yeah. (8:01) That makes sense.

Jenny Smith (8:02) There's a lot more math to diluting or using more concentrated insulin, and you really have to pay attention and have somebody who's knowledgeable who can give you the right dosing plan in the way that you're measuring insulin again, whether it's with a pump or with a syringe.

Scott Benner (8:18) So when people are doing this with kids, you have to find an endo who's comfortable with it, right, to explain to you how to dilute it. (8:24) Do they let the families dilute it eventually?

Jenny Smith (8:28) You can. (8:28) Yeah. (8:29) Sometimes, pharmacy will do the diluting for you, but each of the pump each of the, insulin companies has a dilutant, essentially to be able to utilize. (8:38) This is not diluting with saline. (8:41) This is not what you end up doing, and there are very defined directions to diluting the insulin.

Scott Benner (8:47) Can't get it from Amazon, you're telling me?

Jenny Smith (8:49) No. (8:49) Please don't.

Scott Benner (8:52) What about do people dilute basal insulins, or does that not end up being a need?

Jenny Smith (8:56) You know, that is not something that I've ever heard done. (9:00) Now, again, I me being the end of not as many people as there are with diabetes and insulin using, Maybe somebody has done that. (9:10) I've it's mostly rapid acting insulins that you would dilute. (9:14) I've never heard of a basal diluting.

Scott Benner (9:16) Okay. (9:17) Did we cover this? (9:18) I feel like we did.

Jenny Smith (9:19) Yeah. (9:19) As a baseline direction? (9:21) Yes. (9:22) Yeah. (9:22) Could we have a much more in-depth discussion?

Jenny Smith (9:24) A 100% we could. (9:26) It's just a defining. (9:27) It's just a defining. (9:27) I

Scott Benner (9:28) wanna say, I'd like to give you a lot of credit. (9:31) As we started talking, I asked my overlord to, explain you two hundred insulin for dummies to me, and I didn't need to look at it. (9:40) So thank you. (9:40) You did a really good job making it Great. (9:42) Making it accessible to me.

Jenny Smith (9:44) Did I sound like the dummy explanation was there?

Scott Benner (9:46) I don't know about that, but this dummy understood you. (9:49) So I think we did a good job.

Jenny Smith (9:50) Good. (9:50) Thank you. (9:51) Yay. (9:52) Sure.

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Diagnosed at three, Shane discusses growing up with T1D, navigating the college party scene, and his transition to adulthood. He covers alcohol, mental health, dating, and improving his A1C.

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Scott Benner (0:00) Welcome back, friends, to another episode of the Juice Box podcast.

Shane (0:14) Hello. (0:15) I'm Shane. (0:16) I'm 26 years old, and I've been living with type one diabetes for over twenty three years now.

Scott Benner (0:25) If you're new to type one diabetes, begin with the bold beginnings series from the podcast. (0:30) Don't take my word for it. (0:31) Listen to what reviewers have said. (0:33) Bold beginnings is the best first step. (0:36) I learned more in those episodes than anywhere else.

Scott Benner (0:39) This is when everything finally clicked. (0:41) People say it takes the stress out of the early days and replaces it with clarity. (0:45) They tell me this should come with the diagnosis packet that I got at the hospital. (0:49) And after they listen, they recommend it to everyone who's struggling. (0:53) It's straightforward, practical, and easy to listen to.

Scott Benner (0:56) Bold Beginnings gives you the basics in a way that actually makes sense. (1:02) If you've ever heard a diabetes term and thought, okay, but what does that actually mean? (1:06) You need the defining diabetes series from the Juice Box podcast. (1:10) Defining diabetes takes all those phrases and terms that you don't understand and makes them clear. (1:15) Quick and easy episodes.

Scott Benner (1:17) Find out what bolus means, basal, insulin sensitivity, and all of the rest. (1:22) There has to be over 60 episodes of Defining Diabetes. (1:25) Check it out now in your audio player or go to juiceboxpodcast.com and go up into the menu. (1:32) Today's episode is brought to you by Omnipod. (1:35) We talk a lot about ways to lower your a one c on this podcast.

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Shane (2:38) Hello. (2:38) I'm Shane. (2:39) I'm 26 years old, and I've been living with type one diabetes for over twenty three years now.

Scott Benner (2:46) Shane diagnosed when you were three, two and a half, something like that?

Shane (2:50) Yep. (2:50) Three years old.

Scott Benner (2:51) Wow. (2:52) It

Shane (2:52) was June 2002.

Scott Benner (2:55) How was the weather that June? (2:56) Do you remember?

Shane (2:57) I don't remember. (2:58) You don't remember?

Scott Benner (2:59) But do you I think it

Shane (3:00) was nice, though.

Scott Benner (3:01) What do you remember about that? (3:03) Nothing. (3:03) Right?

Shane (3:04) I have, like, one very vague memory of being in the hospital and, like, seeing a doctor from, like, a three year old's perspective.

Scott Benner (3:15) Mhmm.

Shane (3:16) I was saying, like, a little, like, car toy thing. (3:20) But besides that, I don't I don't even know. (3:22) Sure. (3:23) That was, like, from that time.

Scott Benner (3:26) Are there are there photos of your diagnosis time?

Shane (3:33) There probably is. (3:35) You know, my mother, like, she she keeps photos of everything. (3:40) So I'm I know it was a really hard time for her then.

Scott Benner (3:44) Yeah. (3:44) I was just wondering because I I'm starting to learn as I get older that, like, some of my older memories, they're not really memories. (3:50) They're they're photos that I remember. (3:53) Does that make sense? (3:54) Oh.

Scott Benner (3:54) Like like yeah. (3:55) Like, I wouldn't be surprised if some there there's a picture of a car and you in a hospital, like, and you've seen it. (4:01) Like, that's what I that's what I was wondering about. (4:03) I mean, I could also be a 100% wrong. (4:05) What do you mean it was hard for your mom?

Scott Benner (4:06) How do you know that? (4:07) Is that are those stories that have been shared over the years?

Shane (4:11) Yeah. (4:11) Just, like, throughout time, just from, like, hearing, like, from, like, other family members just like, oh, like, you know, we had no idea what was going on back then. (4:23) You know? (4:24) Like, it was in 2002, so that was a different, you know, time frame. (4:29) And and no one in my family at the time had type one diabetes.

Shane (4:35) So

Scott Benner (4:37) Do they now?

Shane (4:39) I'm the only one that has type one diabetes in my, like, you know, my mom or dad's side of the family.

Scott Benner (4:46) Mhmm.

Shane (4:47) So I guess there is some type two Yeah. (4:52) That goes.

Scott Benner (4:53) I think we all we all know somebody with type two diabetes, I think. (4:56) Right. (4:57) Yeah. (4:58) So Yeah. (4:59) Stories from your other family members.

Scott Benner (5:00) Like, stories like, hey. (5:01) Your mom was struggling back then, or they weren't telling you that when you were a kid. (5:05) Right?

Shane (5:05) No. (5:06) No. (5:06) This was just, like, as I got older, it was just like, oh, yeah. (5:09) Like, you know, like, they just didn't know what was going on. (5:15) This is something that was completely new, and then it's like your your child's sick.

Scott Benner (5:20) Lot of confusion.

Shane (5:21) For for five days.

Scott Benner (5:22) Yeah. (5:23) Like, lot of a lot of confusion, you think, throughout the fam like, through the extended family too.

Shane (5:29) Yeah. (5:29) Yeah. (5:29) Definitely. (5:30) I mean, there was definitely support there, which was great from, you know, what I picked up on over time.

Scott Benner (5:38) Mhmm.

Shane (5:38) So

Scott Benner (5:39) Your your parents married still?

Shane (5:42) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (5:42) Okay. (5:43) Do you remember growing up with somebody more in charge of you than the other, or was it a pretty equal distribution of responsibility?

Shane (5:50) It was very e so, you know, growing up, I was not very confident in, like, checking my blood sugar until I was about, like, nine.

Scott Benner (6:03) Mhmm.

Shane (6:03) I didn't like pricking my finger. (6:07) Definitely did not, like, do my own psyches. (6:10) I didn't like the you know, it can be painful, you you know, sometimes, like, pointing your stomach, your leg, your butt, your arm, whatever. (6:21) Shane, confident. (6:22) Dad would help me do the Yeah.

Shane (6:24) I'm sorry. (6:25) Help change my sights.

Scott Benner (6:26) Yeah. (6:26) Yeah. (6:26) You weren't confident or you weren't or you weren't or or it hurt and you didn't wanna do it?

Shane (6:33) I think it was because of I it it hurt.

Scott Benner (6:35) Okay.

Shane (6:36) So I didn't wanna do it.

Scott Benner (6:37) Yeah. (6:37) So having your dad help you was valuable?

Shane (6:40) Very valuable.

Scott Benner (6:41) Yeah.

Shane (6:41) Yeah. (6:42) And then my mom would take me to the doctor. (6:44) She would do all, like, the, like, the insurance paperwork. (6:50) You know? (6:51) Right.

Shane (6:51) I I two I got two other siblings in my family too. (6:58) So Mhmm. (6:59) She also did that for them, but they didn't they're very healthy. (7:03) They don't have any Assholes. (7:06) Underlying condition.

Scott Benner (7:07) Yeah. (7:07) Yeah. (7:08) Yeah. (7:08) Press. (7:09) Running around all healthy.

Scott Benner (7:11) Yep. (7:12) Are they older older or younger?

Shane (7:14) They're both older.

Scott Benner (7:15) Both older. (7:16) Oh, you're the youngest?

Shane (7:17) Yes.

Scott Benner (7:18) Okay. (7:19) Do you have any other autoimmune stuff? (7:22) Nope. (7:23) No. (7:23) That's

Shane (7:24) type one diabetic.

Scott Benner (7:25) How about your mom? (7:26) Your mom got thyroid?

Shane (7:29) No.

Scott Benner (7:29) No. (7:30) Okay. (7:31) No. (7:31) You don't see any celiac in the family, extended family, celiac, thyroid, vitiligo, any other RA maybe, any other autoimmune issues?

Shane (7:41) Not that I'm aware of

Scott Benner (7:44) Okay.

Shane (7:44) Honestly.

Scott Benner (7:45) No. (7:45) That that's that's fine. (7:47) And you're 26 now. (7:48) How long you've been out of college?

Shane (7:50) Yeah. (7:51) So I graduated five years ago. (7:54) Well, 2021. (7:56) So 2021.

Scott Benner (7:59) Yeah. (8:00) Yeah. (8:00) Yeah. (8:00) So You and my son are the same just about the same age. (8:03) You're a little older than he is.

Scott Benner (8:05) Okay. (8:06) Yeah. (8:06) Yeah.

Shane (8:06) Yeah. (8:07) I I really loved college. (8:10) It was definitely a time period where, like, you know yeah. (8:18) Like, I oh, like, you

Scott Benner (8:20) Wait. (8:20) Shane, you started you started laughing, but only you knew what you were laughing at. (8:24) What what was let me ask you a couple questions, and I'll get you to college. (8:28) Okay? (8:28) So you you you're not too comfortable taking care of yourself till you're, like, nine or so with your sites and everything.

Scott Benner (8:34) That I imagine gets a little easier as you get older. (8:37) You're making decisions about insulin on your own at one age.

Shane (8:42) Yeah. (8:42) So that was instilled into me to start counting carbs at a very early age and, like, not lying about, like, what you're eating

Scott Benner (8:50) Okay.

Shane (8:51) And, like, sneaking food. (8:53) That was instilled into me, I would say, from both my parents, like, hey. (8:59) Like, you have something. (9:01) You can do it, but let us know. (9:04) And how and then you need to know how to count this.

Scott Benner (9:08) Right. (9:08) So they So very honest and direct. (9:11) Empowered. (9:12) Yeah. (9:13) Yeah.

Scott Benner (9:13) Yeah. (9:13) And did you ever have trouble with lying about, like, what you were eating?

Shane (9:17) No. (9:18) But I knew other people throughout time growing up that, you know, my parents would work with or through, like, sports

Scott Benner (9:28) Mhmm.

Shane (9:29) It would be like, oh, like, you know, I have the same endocrinologist as some of these people. (9:34) And we would just I would just hear that, oh, like, your eight wins these 10. (9:42) Or and then, like, mine's, like, eight. (9:45) It wasn't that much better. (9:48) But

Scott Benner (9:49) Sure thing.

Shane (9:49) I'm not

Scott Benner (9:50) I'm not bragging because I had an eight, but they had a 10. (9:52) So, they were definitely doing something. (9:55) But, like, the so did you grow up with any, weird feelings about food, or your parents were able to keep that from happening by the way they talked to you about it?

Shane (10:06) No. (10:07) I I never had any, like, weird feelings about food. (10:12) I mean, more more in the sense of, like, I knew the sensations of, like, having low and high blood sugar without testing. (10:18) Mhmm. (10:19) So I was very much, like, in tune with my body because, like, CGM synagogues exist back then.

Scott Benner (10:28) Okay.

Shane (10:28) And it's like, you know, I was just going based off gut feeling. (10:35) And, you know, if I if I didn't feel right, I would say something.

Scott Benner (10:39) Dude, this vibe with it. (10:40) But I'm saying, like, you didn't have, like, any eating disorder stuff. (10:43) You didn't, like, avoid food, so you didn't have the bolus or or eat and lie about it and hide food or anything. (10:49) Nothing like that was happening for you.

Shane (10:51) No. (10:52) No. (10:52) I mean, there's definitely been days where I'm like, like, ugh. (10:57) Like, there's nothing I can do. (10:59) Right?

Scott Benner (10:59) Yeah. (10:59) Yeah. (11:00) Yeah. (11:00) Yeah. (11:00) Maybe maybe today, I just, this isn't gonna go well.

Scott Benner (11:03) I hear you. (11:04) When did you get a CGM? (11:05) At what age?

Shane (11:08) Yeah. (11:08) So I got it, right around COVID, honestly.

Scott Benner (11:14) Okay.

Shane (11:14) It was like

Scott Benner (11:14) About five years ago? (11:16) Yeah. (11:17) Which one do you use?

Shane (11:19) The Dexcom g seven current currently, but I use the the g six to set off.

Scott Benner (11:25) Okay. (11:25) Are you excited about the the g seven going to fifteen days?

Shane (11:30) Yeah. (11:30) I actually wait. (11:31) Fifteen days?

Scott Benner (11:32) Yeah. (11:32) I think so. (11:33) Right? (11:33) Now what's gonna happen?

Shane (11:35) I didn't see that. (11:36) I I know it's ten days right now.

Scott Benner (11:38) Oh, no. (11:38) No. (11:38) No.

Shane (11:38) I like the grace period.

Scott Benner (11:39) Dexcom. (11:40) Fifteen days. (11:44) Dexcom yeah. (11:45) It's gonna be fifteen days. (11:46) It's coming really soon.

Scott Benner (11:48) I I think, like, now it it's gonna start rolling out. (11:53) Yeah. (11:53) It oh. (11:54) Sweet. (11:54) Yeah.

Scott Benner (11:54) Dexcom g seven fifteen day has earned FDA clearance coming December 1. (11:59) Today is December 1.

Shane (12:02) Oh, okay. (12:03) I guess I gotta use the rest of my supplies.

Scott Benner (12:04) Yeah. (12:05) Get going, man. (12:05) It's for 18 and up. (12:07) It's not for peds for some reason. (12:09) But yeah.

Scott Benner (12:11) I mean, that's it. (12:11) Hopefully, you'll get five more days out of it.

Shane (12:15) Nice.

Scott Benner (12:15) Yeah. (12:16) Awesome. (12:16) Yeah.

Shane (12:17) Does get a little gross sometimes with the tape around it.

Scott Benner (12:20) You think the sticky might get a little icky? (12:23) Yeah. (12:24) So Hey. (12:25) If I say icky sticky, are you gonna tell me that you smoked weed in college and that we can bring this all full circle?

Shane (12:31) Yeah. (12:31) Yeah. (12:31) I definitely did.

Scott Benner (12:33) Awesome. (12:33) Thanks, Shane. (12:34) I appreciate it. (12:35) Sometimes people fight the titles, and that makes me upset. (12:38) I was talking to somebody the other day, and I was like, what was what was it about?

Scott Benner (12:43) Her name was Cecilia. (12:44) And I was like, if you could have just said something crappy, I could have called this Cecilia. (12:48) You're breaking my heart after the song. (12:50) And and she just was such a lovely person. (12:53) I couldn't do it, but you are gonna help me out here.

Scott Benner (12:56) We might call this one icky sticky. (12:57) Depends on how much weed you smoked. (13:00) Dexcom Dexcom's like awesome. (13:01) Pivot right from me to weed. (13:05) Great.

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Scott Benner (13:13) So she so Shane, so you're taking care of yourself. (13:15) You're counting your carbs. (13:17) You're better with your devices as you get older. (13:19) Five years ago, in college, you get a CGM. (13:22) So you left you're telling me you went through high school without a CGM, and you started college without one.

Shane (13:27) I did not like the idea of having another sight on me.

Scott Benner (13:31) Oh, this I wanna hear I wanna hear against Yeah. (13:35) Yeah. (13:35) Give me a half a second, Shane. (13:36) Like, there's a open window that shouldn't be. (13:38) I'm gonna walk away for half a second.

Shane (13:40) Okay.

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Scott Benner (15:56) Silly me trying to live with fresh air. (15:58) Let's start here. (15:58) You had a pump at what age? (16:00) Four. (16:01) Four.

Scott Benner (16:01) Oh, you've had a pump for a long ass time. (16:03) What what pump did you start with?

Shane (16:05) Medtronic. (16:07) The Silhouette was the the site Mhmm. (16:10) I used. (16:12) Well, it was like a manual. (16:13) It wasn't even, like, how, like, they are now where, like, you just click it and it shoots into your skin.

Scott Benner (16:19) Yeah. (16:19) You don't push it in. (16:20) Right?

Shane (16:21) Right. (16:21) Yeah. (16:21) You used to manually do it. (16:23) So, like, I think that kinda stems to, like, why I wasn't comfortable doing it because, like, I was, like, watching, like, needle going to my stomach slowly, and then, you know, it's

Scott Benner (16:36) a bar. (16:37) Like

Shane (16:38) Awesome. (16:39) To do this by myself?

Scott Benner (16:40) Also, I've been to a phlebotomist. (16:42) They're not great at it sometimes. (16:43) I don't know what I'm doing. (16:44) I'm nine. (16:45) Like Yeah.

Shane (16:46) I'm not I'm four.

Scott Benner (16:47) Yeah. (16:48) Four. (16:48) Well, yeah. (16:49) Of course. (16:49) Oh, that makes more sense.

Scott Benner (16:50) So you were using are you using a Medtronic pump with an with a manual inserted cannula?

Shane (16:57) Yeah. (16:57) Like silhouette.

Scott Benner (16:58) Called the silhouette. (16:59) You you do that. (17:00) When do you do you stay with Medtronic pumps throughout your childhood?

Shane (17:04) Yeah. (17:05) All the way up until college.

Scott Benner (17:07) Okay. (17:07) And so Nine

Shane (17:08) one two tandem.

Scott Benner (17:10) And in high school, you're you're are you rocking that eight a one c pretty much through high school or did it

Shane (17:17) I was pretty good, actually. (17:19) Like, I asked my because my mom, she would write them down every time. (17:24) So I would fluctuate. (17:26) Like, CGM overall, I was I should've used them earlier because my a one c has been consistently below seven. (17:36) It's in the sixes now

Scott Benner (17:37) Good for you.

Shane (17:38) Since I've been using them.

Scott Benner (17:40) That's awesome.

Shane (17:41) Yeah. (17:41) So it's definitely opened my eyes to, like, wow. (17:46) Like like, the these actually do help.

Scott Benner (17:51) Oh my god. (17:52) It's a friend of a friend. (17:54) I don't wanna say anybody's name. (17:55) A friend of

Shane (17:55) a

Scott Benner (17:56) friend, just got a CGM. (17:59) And I've been I said to them, I was talking on the phone with them, and and and and I said, you know, when I met you and I realized you didn't have a CGM, I said, I've been worried about you since then. (18:11) And, and I'm just so thrilled that you got one. (18:14) And already, they're seeing, like, yeah. (18:16) Like, there's a lot here I didn't realize.

Scott Benner (18:18) So, like, what did you notice first? (18:19) Putting on a CGM, like, first time when you started looking at those graphs, what was your what were your takeaways in the beginning?

Shane (18:28) Just how drastic over a twenty four hour period. (18:33) Like, when you eat, it doesn't look that bad whether than the first hour or through well, then you look at it for twenty four hours. (18:43) Like, if, you know, if you're not pre bowl of zinc twenty minutes before, and this is where the carb counting is so important, but to get deeper into the things, you know, like, if you're constantly on the go and you're out and about and you don't know where you're at, you go to, like, some restaurant and then you get, like, a quesadilla, but, like, who knows what they put on the chicken. (19:03) It's like Mhmm. (19:04) You know what I mean?

Shane (19:05) Like, there's so many unknown factors, and, like, it's like, go. (19:09) Go. (19:09) Go. (19:10) So I sometimes forget the, like, pre bolus. (19:15) So then, like, that's where I see those, like, sharp increases, and it's just a good reminder to, like, slow down.

Shane (19:22) Yeah. (19:22) Think about what you're eating.

Scott Benner (19:23) You almost said what I what I think is maybe one of the more valuable parts about a CGM is, like, if you're just looking at something, like, close-up right up on your nose, like, you're just like, oh, I'm a 180 or I'm a 160. (19:34) But if you step back twenty four hours, I can see the whole thing in one picture, you go, oh, I don't do I'm not good at this. (19:42) And and right? (19:44) And then it starts making you think about what? (19:45) Like, how do I how do I get rid of these spikes?

Scott Benner (19:48) How do I get rid of the lows? (19:49) If you start putting, what, a little more focused attention on it, like, how does it help you?

Shane (19:55) Yeah. (19:55) Definitely. (19:58) You know, like, there's just, like, certain little things too that I've noticed that, like, when I first wake up in the morning, I don't even eat anything sometimes, and my blood sugar will still rise up. (20:10) Yeah. (20:10) And then that's just a natural I don't know.

Shane (20:13) I forgot what the term's called, but that happens where your body releases a little bit

Scott Benner (20:19) on the floor?

Shane (20:21) Yeah.

Scott Benner (20:21) Yeah. (20:22) Like, you're you get up and are you an anxious person?

Shane (20:28) Yeah. (20:28) I guess so. (20:29) Like, I mean, I I think I think everyone is.

Scott Benner (20:31) You think everyone is?

Shane (20:34) Yeah. (20:34) I mean, maybe you're not. (20:35) I don't know what's I I don't know.

Scott Benner (20:37) I've been trying to figure that out myself. (20:39) I

Shane (20:39) am, I guess.

Scott Benner (20:39) Yeah. (20:40) Yeah. (20:40) Yeah. (20:40) But you say you have some level of anxiety. (20:42) So when you start what what happens?

Scott Benner (20:43) You wake up, the day presents itself, you start your adrenaline goes up a little bit, you

Shane (20:49) Yeah. (20:49) I mean, definitely on my way to work. (20:52) Like, I but it's a commute.

Scott Benner (20:54) So Yeah. (20:56) Well, you drive in or you take a train or how do you get to work?

Shane (20:59) I drive in.

Scott Benner (20:59) You drive. (21:00) And no one by the way, when you're going to college, it all sounded fun, didn't it? (21:03) Like, I'll get a job. (21:04) I'll get money. (21:04) This is gonna be awesome.

Scott Benner (21:05) And now you're like, oh, every day? (21:07) You know?

Shane (21:07) Yeah. (21:08) It's like, I can't walk to work?

Scott Benner (21:11) Every day I gotta go?

Shane (21:13) Yeah. (21:14) Rethink how we plan out city design.

Scott Benner (21:19) Don't know. (21:19) It's like, I thought this makes sense exactly. (21:22) I mean, the money is not as what I was thought it was gonna be, and, every day, I gotta get up. (21:27) I gotta you know what I you know what I as a person who doesn't leave the house to go to work, I am I I don't realize, like, little things. (21:34) I mean, I realize them because I used to have, like, a, like, a real job.

Scott Benner (21:38) But even little stuff about having to plan, like, when to use the bathroom during the day. (21:43) That's not a thing that happens to me. (21:45) Do you know what I mean? (21:45) Like, I go to the bathroom when I wanna go to the bathroom. (21:47) Like but Yeah.

Scott Benner (21:48) If you get up at seven and you gotta be out the door at 07:30, and it's 07:45, you're like, ah, I gotta go. (21:54) But it's too late now. (21:55) You're in the car. (21:56) It don't matter.

Shane (21:57) Yeah. (21:57) Yeah. (21:57) Yeah. (21:58) You gotta wait till you get to Yeah. (21:59) Where you're going.

Shane (22:00) And then

Scott Benner (22:00) you go to work and you're that guy that shits at work. (22:02) You know what I mean? (22:03) It ain't great. (22:04) It ain't great shit.

Shane (22:06) Then then you're waiting in line. (22:07) Yeah. (22:08) There's only one.

Scott Benner (22:09) You and the coffee boys are in the bathroom together. (22:11) You know what I mean? (22:12) Like, it's not fun. (22:14) It's

Shane (22:15) Every day. (22:15) 10AM.

Scott Benner (22:16) Hey. (22:16) What's up, guys? (22:20) Uh-huh. (22:20) Yeah. (22:20) But, like, little stuff that you don't you know, commuting, like, I don't get caught in traffic.

Scott Benner (22:24) I don't like, you know what mean? (22:26) Stuff like that. (22:26) You you saw my biggest work problem is I left the window ajar, and I could hear a leaf blower up the street. (22:31) I was like, ugh. (22:31) Let me fix that.

Scott Benner (22:33) Have you ever gotten to like, but you started working out of college, like, very post COVID. (22:38) Like, you Yeah. (22:40) Very immediately. (22:40) Immediately. (22:41) But you had to go into an office?

Shane (22:43) Yeah. (22:44) I worked in a warehouse.

Scott Benner (22:45) Oh, okay. (22:46) Yeah. (22:46) So you got a hands on job.

Shane (22:48) Yeah. (22:49) Yeah. (22:49) Not a problem.

Scott Benner (22:50) I got a baby job. (22:52) What'd you go to college for? (22:53) Like, what what was your, your degree

Shane (22:55) in? (22:56) Integrated supply management.

Scott Benner (22:58) Oh, no kidding. (22:59) And that's a real, like, skill that you were able to go out in the row and put to practice right away? (23:03) Yeah. (23:04) That's awesome.

Shane (23:05) So, related to, you know, like, logistics, procurement, operations

Scott Benner (23:13) Making things work faster, better.

Shane (23:16) Yep. (23:16) Exactly. (23:17) So

Scott Benner (23:18) What's the dream? (23:19) Amazon? (23:20) Who does it at the highest level?

Shane (23:24) Wait. (23:25) What do you

Scott Benner (23:25) mean? (23:25) Like, what kind of like like, do you work at a smaller I'm not asking you where you work, but do you work at a smaller company or a really big place? (23:30) Like, I I was like, somebody

Shane (23:31) I've worked at some massive company, but now I work at a a much smaller place. (23:38) And, you know, I work contract a little bit, and then now I'm a full time employee.

Scott Benner (23:44) Oh, so you kinda came in to fix a problem, they liked you, you stayed?

Shane (23:49) Well, this is like no. (23:51) This is at a different company

Scott Benner (23:52) Oh, okay.

Shane (23:52) Not where I'm full time at. (23:53) But, yeah, that's why I did. (23:55) Yeah. (23:55) There was, like, a project manager, and they're like, we got this going on. (24:00) You did a good job, sorta extend your contract.

Scott Benner (24:03) Nice.

Shane (24:03) And

Scott Benner (24:05) Nice to hear. (24:06) Bet your parents

Shane (24:07) your incentives.

Scott Benner (24:08) I bet your parents were proud.

Shane (24:10) No. (24:11) It was great work experience, and I I felt really good about what I did.

Scott Benner (24:17) But every day every day they want you there, Shane. (24:19) So does Yeah. (24:20) Is that an on your feet moving around job?

Shane (24:23) No. (24:24) No. (24:25) It was it was more like an office

Scott Benner (24:30) Okay. (24:30) Alright.

Shane (24:30) So style job.

Scott Benner (24:31) I was

Shane (24:31) doing a lot of paperwork, making, like, bill ladings, packing lists.

Scott Benner (24:35) Gotcha.

Shane (24:36) Invoicing.

Scott Benner (24:37) Yeah. (24:37) So okay. (24:38) So I I fun stuff. (24:39) I got you back in high school now. (24:41) You're you're managing without a CGM.

Scott Benner (24:43) You're using a pump. (24:44) Mhmm. (24:44) You got an a one c in the eights, probably. (24:47) You head off to college. (24:49) So you said your note here says, what you said, how diabetes progresses throughout life as a male from childhood into adulthood.

Scott Benner (24:59) How other drugs outside of insulin affect your management of diabetes. (25:03) Yeah. (25:03) Let's talk a little bit about being a guy first and dating and all that stuff with diabetes. (25:08) What what what was your experience with that?

Shane (25:11) With dating?

Scott Benner (25:12) Yeah. (25:13) Like, what's it like telling a person for the first time, like, I use insulin. (25:16) I have this. (25:17) I might pass out. (25:18) Like, I could you know, like, what what what's that like to open up to somebody while you're trying to date at the same time?

Shane (25:23) Yeah. (25:24) And I guess in the dating aspect, it's, you know, it's something that's very important. (25:36) So you definitely wanna let them know, I'm like, hey. (25:41) Like, you know, if I'm not feeling, like, acting like myself, like, I might have lower high blood sugars or, like you know? (25:51) So

Scott Benner (25:51) Is that a tough thing to tell a stranger, though?

Shane (25:57) I to someone that I've dated or, like, in the past,

Scott Benner (26:05) no. (26:05) No? (26:06) No. (26:06) Okay. (26:07) But

Shane (26:08) for sports, I didn't like to tell my coaches.

Scott Benner (26:16) What sports did you play?

Shane (26:18) I played a lot of I did, like, everything. (26:22) I didn't think middle school. (26:25) I did cross country, swimming, wrestling.

Scott Benner (26:30) Okay. (26:30) Everything. (26:31) Like, in middle school, like, high school, you're doing that stuff. (26:34) Yeah. (26:35) Why didn't you like telling your coaches?

Shane (26:39) I don't know, Scott. (26:40) I just think that, like, it was embarrassing Mhmm. (26:45) Maybe.

Scott Benner (26:47) In a in a setting where

Shane (26:49) people to know because, like, I I guess I was sick and tired of just explaining the same thing over and over to everyone because, like, a lot of people growing up in my school district did not I was, like, one of the only people I knew of that had diabetes.

Scott Benner (27:06) Okay.

Shane (27:07) So yeah.

Scott Benner (27:09) You think there's a fear of looking you think there's a fear of looking weak, Shane?

Shane (27:14) What was the question?

Scott Benner (27:15) Do you think there's a fear of looking weak?

Shane (27:22) Looking no. (27:23) No. (27:24) I just, like, didn't feel like you're telling me.

Scott Benner (27:32) You just didn't want you you didn't wanna have conversations. (27:34) You weren't looking to talk to people who you didn't know that well and explain diabetes to them.

Shane (27:39) Yeah. (27:40) I guess I felt like I was like, if I something was that wrong, like, I never, you know, had such low blood sugar or so high that, like Was it led to, like, complication.

Scott Benner (27:54) Gotcha. (27:55) So you were you were you were rocking a higher blood sugar to be I mean, if you're if you have an eight a one c, what is that? (28:00) Like, a one what is that? (28:02) Like, an average of, like, one sixty or one let me figure that out. (28:07) So, so you weren't having a lot of lows while you're performing with your sports?

Scott Benner (28:11) Now did your mom and dad want you to tell the coaches and you just didn't? (28:15) Or

Shane (28:16) They they would. (28:17) They they would do it in the first week. (28:19) They'd be like, hey. (28:20) Did you know, like, Shane has type one diabetes? (28:23) And they're they'd be like, no.

Shane (28:26) You didn't say that.

Scott Benner (28:27) That kid don't talk.

Shane (28:30) Yeah. (28:31) It was just like, oh, that's that's great. (28:33) Like, you know, looking at it now from, like, my age, like, I I would have been like, are you kidding me? (28:40) Like, why wouldn't you tell me?

Scott Benner (28:41) So Shit's like, I the younger me was an idiot is what I'm trying to Yeah. (28:45) I should've definitely told somebody. (28:49) Yeah. (28:49) You're you know, an average blood sugar for, an eight a one c is, like, in the one nineties. (28:55) So you you weren't experiencing a lot of a lot of lows.

Shane (29:01) No. (29:02) I definitely saw at lows. (29:05) My my like, I would have to look at, like, the piece of paper. (29:11) I was definitely in the sevens, low sevens a lot. (29:15) Mhmm.

Shane (29:15) But, like, through puberty, that's where my a one c started to get a little hectic.

Scott Benner (29:22) Okay.

Shane (29:23) So but then it kinda balanced out more throughout college. (29:28) I'd actually did a pretty okay job, considering it was around the sevens. (29:37) I don't think I ever got above eights. (29:40) Okay. (29:40) Then some there's a lot going on with, you know, on top of college and with

Scott Benner (29:48) What else was going on?

Shane (29:51) Just, like, the curriculum, like schoolwork and act and then you wanna, like, be there for certain things. (29:56) Like, there's been plenty of times where, like, diabetes has gotten away where where I can't go out or I can't play in a game because my blood sugar is so high or it's so low. (30:08) And then, like, afterwards, I'm like, I don't have the capacity to mentally go out and and interact. (30:17) I'm like I'm just, like, over it. (30:19) I just wanna stay in.

Scott Benner (30:20) You get you feel a little rocked afterwards?

Shane (30:23) Yeah. (30:24) Definitely. (30:24) I can like, that can happen.

Scott Benner (30:27) Okay. (30:27) And that went on for years?

Shane (30:30) No. (30:31) No. (30:31) I wouldn't say for years, but definitely, like, in high school, starting then into college, and then now. (30:41) So when I was younger, I feel like I was just, like, a little energizer bunny just going everywhere.

Scott Benner (30:49) Yeah. (30:50) So, like, an anchor point for you, like, an an eight to nine a one c is, like, a one to, like, two blood sugar. (30:58) Just just interesting for people to listen. (31:00) Like, you know, if you have a you know, people you're talking about about a 10 a one c, that's an average of, like, two like, a 240 blood sugar. (31:07) You know, it's it's it's it's a lot.

Scott Benner (31:10) Like, you know what I mean? (31:11) Like, in is when you get lows too, you probably were getting lows that were, like like, crashes, I would imagine. (31:18) Like, you'd what? (31:19) Like, after an event or something like that, you drop quickly?

Shane (31:23) Yeah. (31:24) I mean, so, like, right now, Scott, I play hockey, like, every Sunday. (31:32) So and I gotta attribute a lot to this hockey league end because it's helped me get my current job. (31:41) I actually have now.

Scott Benner (31:43) Wait. (31:43) So You you play in ice hockey still, like, in an adult league? (31:47) Mhmm. (31:47) That helped you get you you networked at the hockey league and got your job?

Shane (31:51) Yeah.

Scott Benner (31:51) Nice. (31:53) Yeah. (31:53) And you and it keeps you keeps you moving. (31:56) Right?

Shane (31:57) Yeah. (31:57) And I stopped wearing my insulin pump, you know, as a full contact sport. (32:02) And and now we don't hit. (32:03) Like, you know, like, we we're paying full grown men to go play hockey.

Scott Benner (32:08) Yeah. (32:08) You're getting older.

Shane (32:09) We're not out there. (32:09) Like, I gotta work tomorrow. (32:11) I'm not trying to hit anyone. (32:12) I'm don't hit me. (32:14) But I don't wear an insulin pump anymore because I'm kinda afraid if they get broke.

Scott Benner (32:22) While you're playing, you take it off?

Shane (32:24) Yes. (32:25) So my butcher does spike then. (32:28) Like, the other day, it was bad. (32:30) It usually, like, usually, by the third period too, I don't feel as good as I did when I first started and then the first, like, couple

Scott Benner (32:40) Why don't you why don't you hook back in in bolus once in a while while you're playing?

Shane (32:45) Well, then I have to bring on a bunch and

Scott Benner (32:48) You'd feel better. (32:49) If I change, you'd feel better when it was over.

Shane (32:52) Yeah.

Scott Benner (32:53) Yeah. (32:54) I would like you to do that. (32:55) That's between you and me. (32:57) I don't want your blood sugar getting high for no reason. (33:00) You don't either, though.

Scott Benner (33:01) How long does it take to bring it back down afterwards?

Shane (33:03) Oh, like, my body's very responsive. (33:06) Like, it'll immediately start going back down.

Scott Benner (33:08) So you wouldn't need that much during play. (33:10) Probably just your basil to keep it at at bay.

Shane (33:14) Yeah. (33:14) I'd probably just need, like, two units.

Scott Benner (33:17) Yeah. (33:17) Well, listen. (33:18) You could always bolus a little bit before you start and bolus a little bit after the second period maybe.

Shane (33:24) Yeah. (33:25) It's just like the not having it on and then also just the exertion of playing. (33:33) You know, I would attribute something like like football

Scott Benner (33:36) Mhmm.

Shane (33:36) Being pretty similar. (33:37) You know, a lot of people play football.

Scott Benner (33:39) So Yeah. (33:40) With diabetes, there's I mean, every tight end in the NFL seems to have it. (33:46) Right? (33:46) Like, Andrews, Noah, there's, like, two other Chad is it Mooma? (33:52) How do you say his name?

Scott Benner (33:53) By the way, Chad, your wife keeps emailing me and then not getting back to me. (33:56) You wanna come on the podcast? (33:57) Let's go. (33:59) Other stuff. (33:59) Okay.

Scott Benner (34:00) So so that's what you do through I'm trying to imagine. (34:04) Go through high school, you're not wearing a CGM, you head off to college. (34:08) How does college change from high school, or does it? (34:11) I mean, is your life in high school pretty similar to your life in college, or do things change? (34:15) I mean, the food probably gets worse.

Scott Benner (34:17) Right? (34:17) The weed gets more plentiful. (34:19) Like, tell me what college is like, that transition.

Shane (34:22) Yeah. (34:22) Yeah. (34:23) So, yeah, to your point of food that everyone talks about, like, the, like, freshman 15. (34:30) So I definitely took part in that.

Scott Benner (34:34) Took your took your 15, did you?

Shane (34:37) Yeah. (34:37) Yeah. (34:37) I definitely gained weight. (34:40) I I just remember at the start of my senior year, I weighed, like, a hundred and fifty five pounds. (34:46) And then at the end of the year when I was starting to go to college, I weighed, like, a hundred and ninety.

Scott Benner (34:53) How tall are you?

Shane (34:55) Six foot.

Scott Benner (34:55) Oh, wow. (34:56) You were thin when you left high school.

Shane (34:58) Yeah. (34:59) Well, I used to do cross country, and I was pretty quick.

Scott Benner (35:02) Yeah.

Shane (35:02) I feel like I wasn't, like, Allstate, but I was running, like, six minute mile.

Scott Benner (35:09) You're keeping up with it. (35:10) Right? (35:10) Like, and looking good while you're doing it. (35:12) And then and then you put on weight. (35:13) You put on more weight than you put on 35 pounds.

Scott Benner (35:15) Right?

Shane (35:16) Yeah. (35:16) I I I got really serious with the last season of hockey because I was like, well, this is it. (35:24) Oh,

Scott Benner (35:25) you wait. (35:26) You played ice hockey in college?

Shane (35:30) I did a club.

Scott Benner (35:31) A club. (35:31) Okay. (35:32) Okay.

Shane (35:32) And this is a whole another story, but I so this is actually funny. (35:36) You'll probably find this pretty amusing, actually. (35:38) So I joined club at Western. (35:42) And from there, we went down to team South, and it was the worst hockey game I ever played in. (35:56) We lost, like, 18 to two.

Shane (36:01) My chin got cut open. (36:03) I had fourteen stitches in my chin, and I was like, well, this is no fun.

Scott Benner (36:10) I was gonna say this is this is supposed to be fun.

Shane (36:12) Yeah. (36:13) So Did you bring a goalie? (36:15) Friend. (36:15) You should have brought

Scott Benner (36:16) a goalie.

Shane (36:16) I'm the president of this fraternity. (36:19) You wanna join it? (36:21) And I'm like, yeah. (36:23) So I just do the I just dropped the team, and I joined it.

Scott Benner (36:25) Oh. (36:26) Oh, you were like that. (36:27) Yeah. (36:27) I probably won't get a bloody chin at the fraternity. (36:30) I'll try that instead.

Shane (36:31) What Yeah. (36:32) I'm like, that sounds more fun. (36:35) I don't wanna, like, travel and pay on top of school.

Scott Benner (36:40) Just to, yeah, to do this for club.

Shane (36:42) Just to get hurt.

Scott Benner (36:43) Yeah. (36:43) I gotta tell you, even when you're doing it for the team, it's a lot of effort. (36:48) You know, it's it's a being a being a collegiate athlete is a is a is a ton of effort. (36:53) It's like having two full time jobs. (36:55) Okay.

Scott Benner (36:56) So you dropped hockey, went to I mean, what are we talking about really? (37:00) What'd you pick up drinking?

Shane (37:03) Oh, yeah. (37:03) Definitely. (37:04) Just just how the culture is at a lot of schools

Scott Benner (37:08) Right.

Shane (37:09) Now. (37:09) So

Scott Benner (37:10) How did you manage that with the diabetes? (37:12) Like, did you end up low a lot in the middle of the night afterwards? (37:15) Or how how's drinking impact you?

Shane (37:18) It oh, I didn't have a CGM then. (37:22) So I don't know how I did it sometimes, Scott. (37:26) Like, I I don't the biggest thing was, like, I didn't wanna have low blood sugar while drinking because it's like, oh, like, everyone it's, you know, it's 1AM. (37:39) And

Scott Benner (37:39) Try not to be a bummer.

Shane (37:41) Yeah. (37:42) And it's like, oh, like, well, Shane passed out. (37:44) Like, it's like, no. (37:45) He passed out not from drinking, like like, from having complications. (37:50) Like, it's like his blood sugar is low.

Scott Benner (37:51) Right.

Shane (37:52) Like, that that thankfully never happened because, like, I always still knew the sensation of having low blood sugar while drinking.

Scott Benner (38:00) Mhmm.

Shane (38:01) So, just try to very stay in tune to those sensations that you get. (38:11) So

Scott Benner (38:11) Can you can you put that into words for me? (38:13) Like, how do you know when you're in trouble when you're drinking?

Shane (38:16) With low blood sugar?

Scott Benner (38:18) Yeah.

Shane (38:19) It's just like like like a pit. (38:22) Like, you're just like in your stomach, like, you're just so hungry. (38:26) It feels like nothing's there.

Scott Benner (38:28) Okay.

Shane (38:29) That's how I describe it.

Scott Benner (38:30) So the

Shane (38:30) Like, you just you just have an eight in forty eight hours.

Scott Benner (38:33) Okay. (38:33) Then you gotta

Shane (38:33) eat something. (38:34) You're fasting.

Scott Benner (38:35) You drinking beer, Shane, or or al or, like, different alcohol? (38:38) Or what what was your

Shane (38:39) I sucked at beer.

Scott Benner (38:40) Okay.

Shane (38:41) I did not like liquor.

Scott Benner (38:44) Okay. (38:46) So You still drink today or not as much?

Shane (38:49) I I still have some beers. (38:52) Yeah.

Scott Benner (38:52) Okay. (38:53) So You you manage it. (38:54) I'm I'm assuming you're not drinking to that point anymore, though.

Shane (38:57) No. (38:58) Right. (38:58) No. (38:58) No. (38:58) No.

Shane (38:58) No.

Scott Benner (38:58) No. (38:59) No. (38:59) Was just for school.

Shane (39:00) Yeah. (39:01) Just because well, I I I was, like, pumped. (39:04) Was like, oh, yeah. (39:05) Was like, I might go meet all these new people, and, like, I'm gonna go out and have party and, like, listen. (39:11) You know?

Scott Benner (39:11) Girls too? (39:12) Or just

Shane (39:14) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (39:14) Yeah. (39:15) Yeah. (39:15) So so you're trying to you're trying to meet people?

Shane (39:18) Yeah. (39:19) Like, networking. (39:20) Just.

Scott Benner (39:21) Like how you said network. (39:23) Yeah. (39:23) You're trying to you're trying to you're trying to trying to have sex. (39:26) Right, Shane?

Shane (39:29) Yeah. (39:30) I mean, like

Scott Benner (39:32) mean yeah. (39:33) Right? (39:34) Yeah. (39:34) You're not you're not

Shane (39:35) I I Good. (39:36) Yeah. (39:37) Like, when you join a, like, fraternities, that's they have, like, one on ones and then it's like, oh, like, we're by over a sorority, and we'll, like, get to meet each other.

Scott Benner (39:50) Right. (39:51) Yeah. (39:51) I I didn't go to college, but, like, it all seems pretty obvious to me. (39:54) We have our own place. (39:55) No one else can come into it.

Scott Benner (39:57) We can bring in beer and girls. (39:59) That seems like the whole thing. (40:00) Right?

Shane (40:03) No. (40:04) I mean, like

Scott Benner (40:04) There's more? (40:05) What else did I miss?

Shane (40:07) Well, like, we also, like, did other stuff. (40:09) Like like, we did, like, Special Olympics charities.

Scott Benner (40:16) Oh, you did some check? (40:16) Yeah. (40:17) You did well, that's during the day. (40:18) Yeah. (40:18) Of course.

Scott Benner (40:19) Yeah. (40:19) Yeah. (40:19) I mean, you got the

Shane (40:20) But yeah. (40:20) Like, yeah, like, on Friday night after, like, you know, the week's over because they're you know, like, there's, like, academic standard Right. (40:31) Too. (40:31) So Of course.

Scott Benner (40:32) Yeah. (40:32) No. (40:32) I imagine you gotta you gotta you gotta pass your classes and everything. (40:36) What was it like going to school at that time? (40:38) Like, that's is that COVID post you were you were in school during COVID.

Scott Benner (40:43) Right?

Shane (40:44) Yeah. (40:45) So it was hard, especially when during the transition of, like, March 2020, like, I had some engineering classes, and they were, like, labs. (41:00) We had to go in person for, like, three hours. (41:02) Mhmm. (41:03) And I I struggled.

Shane (41:06) I still passed, but that was one of the only times I ever got, like, a c. (41:12) So

Scott Benner (41:12) It's tough.

Shane (41:13) I just didn't know how to three d model in AutoCAD. (41:19) So

Scott Benner (41:20) From your house? (41:20) Did you have to go home for a while? (41:22) Did they they kick you off campus for a while?

Shane (41:25) Yeah. (41:26) So, like, I mean, I could still go to yeah. (41:29) I lived off campus, but, yeah, there was no more classes, like, on campus.

Scott Benner (41:34) Yeah. (41:34) Were you guys Zooming for a class at that point? (41:37) Mhmm. (41:37) Oh, jeez.

Shane (41:38) Yeah. (41:38) Teams.

Scott Benner (41:38) My son hated that. (41:40) He said it was terrible.

Shane (41:42) Yeah. (41:42) It was well, it was tough too from, like, the professor's perspective because it's like you have your curriculum. (41:47) You have your whole set up for the semester. (41:51) And then it's like, here's a wrench, and that derailed the train. (41:55) And now you have to figure out how to do this through email

Scott Benner (42:00) or Zoom. (42:01) Or virtually when you're used to being in public with in you know, with each other. (42:06) Mhmm. (42:07) Is but you got to go back. (42:08) Right?

Scott Benner (42:08) They what you missed? (42:10) Like, your was it, like, your sophomore year was messed up, or where where was it?

Shane (42:14) It was, like, my junior.

Scott Benner (42:15) Your junior year. (42:16) June. (42:17) Okay. (42:17) Yeah. (42:18) That sucks.

Scott Benner (42:20) Anyway, so you just hit an age. (42:24) Like, I like, you just you just had to get off your parents' insurance. (42:27) Right?

Shane (42:29) Correct.

Scott Benner (42:29) Can you tell me about that? (42:30) Like, was that a big, like, source of consternation leading up to it? (42:35) Were you worried about it? (42:36) Like, what was it like?

Shane (42:37) Yeah. (42:37) Definitely. (42:38) I was definitely worried about it. (42:42) Know, it it's a full step into adulthood. (42:48) Yeah.

Shane (42:50) I'm not worried, though, because I know I can do this.

Scott Benner (42:54) Mhmm.

Shane (42:55) So I would just have to keep, you know, pushing.

Scott Benner (43:04) It like getting that what's it like getting that first check when you're paying for your your your benefits all of sudden out of it? (43:12) Was it shocking how much money they took?

Shane (43:16) Yeah. (43:16) I mean, it's not something that's really talked about in, school. (43:21) So, you know, it's definitely a wake up call, but

Scott Benner (43:31) It wasn't too bad?

Shane (43:33) No. (43:33) I mean, like, I can keep all my bills paid.

Scott Benner (43:37) Yeah. (43:37) Good for you. (43:38) That's awesome. (43:40) Yeah. (43:41) I mean, yeah, that's not a thing.

Scott Benner (43:42) Like, when somebody says to you, like, oh, what are you, you know, what are you majoring in? (43:46) This is my major, and about how much money should I expect to make? (43:48) This is about how much money nobody nobody says, like, well, that's before taxes and before your and before your benefits and before you pay for, you know, all your bills and everything. (43:56) And you realize when you're done, you're like, oh, there's not a lot of money left. (44:00) It done and it doesn't matter how much you make.

Scott Benner (44:01) I, you know, I I saw a young person come out of college recently, super lucky. (44:06) By the way, not just lucky, a lot of hard work, but super lucky. (44:09) They came out of college making $90,000 a year, a lot of money. (44:14) You you know? (44:14) And and I was talking to this person, and I said, how do feel about this?

Scott Benner (44:20) He said, I was really hoping to make more money. (44:22) And was like, you were hoping to make more than $90,000 coming out of college? (44:25) And they were like, yeah. (44:27) He said, I don't know how I'm gonna make it on this. (44:28) I was like, wait.

Scott Benner (44:29) What? (44:30) I was like, in every

Shane (44:31) I guess it's like, where do you live then? (44:33) Because, like, you can live in Kentucky, and and the cost of living there will not be the same if you live in Massachusetts. (44:41) Yeah. (44:41) I Or something.

Scott Benner (44:42) I really I was just interested by, like, how much, like, cost has changed for things so quickly that, like, somebody's understanding of $90,000 was skewed so quickly. (44:54) You know what mean? (44:54) Like, it's a lot I I said, you know, there's a lot of adults don't make that much money. (44:58) And you're, like, you know, you're out of school here, like, six months and you're it's your first job offer.

Shane (45:03) Yeah. (45:03) That's fantastic.

Scott Benner (45:04) You're killing.

Shane (45:05) It's a lot.

Scott Benner (45:05) Yeah. (45:05) Yeah. (45:05) No. (45:06) I wanna be clear to this person. (45:08) Did a lot of work their whole life.

Scott Benner (45:10) Like, they came out of college like a full fledged adult on the on their topic ready to go. (45:14) You you know what mean? (45:15) Like, you there's no training for this. (45:17) This person's gonna slide in and do an amazing job, and has been working really hard their whole life to to get to that point. (45:24) But still, like, like, to hear them talk about the money like that and not be sure, like, is this enough?

Scott Benner (45:29) And I'm like, oh god. (45:30) And this person doesn't, you know, have any health issues that they know of at the moment. (45:35) So not a I I don't know. (45:38) It's just it's interesting. (45:39) Do you and your friends, like, ever talk about stuff like this, or does this not get talked about really?

Shane (45:45) Benefits, money?

Scott Benner (45:46) Yeah. (45:46) Money and, like do you guys actually, like, dig into this stuff?

Shane (45:49) Yeah. (45:50) I have a close group of friends, and we talk about this very often. (45:56) And this is all people I met through my fraternity, actually. (46:00) So

Scott Benner (46:00) Yeah. (46:01) That's become a good a good circle. (46:02) Friends. (46:03) Yeah. (46:03) It's become a good circle for you.

Scott Benner (46:06) Yeah. (46:06) Look. (46:06) Let me look. (46:07) So what else do you can I pick a little bit into, like, people your age? (46:10) Like, I've I've had some conversations with guys your age, you know, on the podcast in the last year, and I'm, you know, I talked about dating.

Scott Benner (46:17) They're like, I don't really worry about dating much. (46:19) I'm like, it's so weird. (46:20) Like, at your age, like, all I cared about was girls. (46:22) And, like and and earlier than that, but people don't talk about it the same way anymore. (46:25) Like, I I mean, college was the last time you could walk outside, walk into a room and expect there to be, like, dateable people in front of you.

Scott Benner (46:34) Like, now it's all digital. (46:36) Right? (46:36) And so, like Yeah. (46:38) How do you do like, are you maybe you're dating somebody already, but, like, how do you do that?

Shane (46:42) Yeah. (46:43) No. (46:43) You're completely right. (46:44) Honestly, it's, it's a you know, the only other place I really go to is like, I had to go out of my way to, like so that's why I try to keep active and, like, do other extracurriculars outside of work, So it's just, like, hockey. (46:58) I'm in a bowling league.

Scott Benner (46:59) Yeah. (46:59) I'm

Shane (47:00) trying to dart league. (47:01) Like

Scott Benner (47:02) Trying to get out of the house.

Shane (47:03) Yeah. (47:04) Yeah. (47:04) I love being trying new things.

Scott Benner (47:07) I mean, are there women at darts?

Shane (47:08) We're not good at it. (47:09) Like, darts are falling.

Scott Benner (47:12) I like that. (47:12) You so you'll go do things you you're not good at just to get out with people. (47:17) Yeah. (47:17) That's a good idea.

Shane (47:18) Because it's like, holy smokes. (47:19) Like, this guy just got a 180, like, three bullseyes. (47:22) Like like, what? (47:24) He's like, I just I just well, I just lost a game of five zero one in, like, six throws.

Scott Benner (47:29) Yeah. (47:30) What's happening? (47:31) I think that's really awesome. (47:32) My son came home with a guitar last week. (47:34) He's like Oh, I've

Shane (47:35) been thinking about getting Yeah. (47:37) Like, an addictive guitar.

Scott Benner (47:38) Yeah. (47:38) He's like, I'm gonna try

Shane (47:39) listen to, like, two thousand rock mainly because my, you know, like, my siblings.

Scott Benner (47:46) Mid That's

Shane (47:47) what they listen to.

Scott Benner (47:48) What bands is that? (47:49) What what where does that put you on on a band? (47:50) Like, what what kind of

Shane (47:51) Oh, boy. (47:55) Let's see. (48:01) Sum forty one.

Scott Benner (48:03) Okay.

Shane (48:03) I like listening to them. (48:04) Blake one eighty two. (48:05) Yeah. (48:06) That kind of

Scott Benner (48:06) I gotcha.

Shane (48:07) Music genre.

Scott Benner (48:08) That's interesting. (48:09) Yeah. (48:09) Yeah. (48:09) Like, when you say rock music to me, I think of anything between, like, I don't know, Led Zeppelin, the Rolling Stones, Metallica, through the Guns N' Roses era, through Nirvana, like then it kind of to me, the rest of it seems like pop music to me. (48:32) I know I know that that's that's not because when you said

Shane (48:34) I would say, like, there was a shift in, like, 2010, like, where pop music took took over.

Scott Benner (48:44) Yeah. (48:45) I know it's not poppy, like, in in the standard, but, like, when you say blink one eighty two to me, like, I don't think rock. (48:50) No. (48:51) Yeah. (48:51) It's interesting.

Scott Benner (48:52) Like, it just be but I also grew up, like, when I turned the radio on, every time I turned the radio on, like, you know I don't know. (48:59) Creedence Clearwater Revival came on or, like, you know, the Rolling Stones or, The Beatles. (49:05) Like, that was that was the radio when I was growing up. (49:08) I remember when, one day, the the oldies the oldies station in my town started playing Guns N' Roses. (49:15) And I was like, wait.

Scott Benner (49:16) No. (49:17) I I listened to that in high school. (49:19) Like, how did that happen so quickly? (49:21) It really freaked me out. (49:22) But now you probably don't even like, you're probably I mean, you're aware of some of these songs because they're so popular, but you don't know Yeah.

Scott Benner (49:28) You don't know 10 Guns N' Roses song. (49:30) You know Paradise City and Welcome to the Jungle. (49:32) You know what I mean?

Shane (49:33) Yes. (49:33) Yeah. (49:34) Definitely Welcome to the Jungle.

Scott Benner (49:35) Right. (49:35) Yeah. (49:36) Yeah. (49:36) It's interesting how quickly music moves, through through generations. (49:41) But, again, like, are you meeting dateable people at bowling and darts?

Scott Benner (49:45) No. (49:45) Right?

Shane (49:47) No. (49:47) No. (49:47) Yeah. (49:48) It's definitely digital now. (49:53) Quite a few of my friends, that's the same case.

Scott Benner (49:55) Yeah. (49:58) Is it awkward, or is it just so commonplace that it's not awkward?

Shane (50:04) I mean, like, it's it can be awkward. (50:09) You know? (50:09) If it is awkward, there's not another date. (50:12) But, I've had good dates. (50:16) It led to more dates and, that have built a relationship out of.

Scott Benner (50:22) Yeah. (50:23) So And you've had and you've had ones where you're like, okay. (50:25) Well, thanks. (50:26) See you.

Shane (50:27) Yeah.

Scott Benner (50:27) Yeah. (50:28) And you've you've disliked people and they've disliked you. (50:30) Right? (50:31) Or vice versa.

Shane (50:33) Yeah. (50:34) Yeah. (50:34) Or it's like, okay. (50:35) Like, feel like I tried this. (50:39) Like, go ahead and meet you.

Scott Benner (50:41) Yeah.

Shane (50:42) Like, you know.

Scott Benner (50:46) But you're But

Shane (50:47) yeah. (50:47) I mean, like, there's only so much time too for everything.

Scott Benner (50:52) Yeah. (50:52) To do that as well. (50:53) But on an app, am I right? (50:55) Like, Sheena, you're you're basically looking at five pictures of somebody and through five photos and something they said that doesn't feel cringey, you're like, okay. (51:02) I'll try this.

Scott Benner (51:04) And then you have to wait to see if they'll try it too. (51:06) Then they gotta look at your five pictures and what you wrote and go like, alright. (51:09) He doesn't seem like a lunatic. (51:10) And then and then you meet for a coffee or something like that.

Shane (51:14) Yeah. (51:14) Yeah. (51:14) I'm very casual.

Scott Benner (51:17) Yeah. (51:19) That's interesting.

Shane (51:20) You know, like like, let's go to, like, the local brunch spot

Scott Benner (51:24) or Mhmm. (51:26) No. (51:27) No. (51:27) I hear it.

Shane (51:27) I don't know. (51:28) Like, if the vibe's right, maybe maybe, like, hey. (51:30) Let's go play a game of darts and drink a beer.

Scott Benner (51:32) Yeah.

Shane (51:33) Like, I don't you know? (51:34) You do that. (51:34) Because maybe you're both beer enthusiasts. (51:37) Do you

Scott Benner (51:37) ever bump into somebody who just wants to have sex and they're not looking to date?

Shane (51:44) I don't really look for that Yeah. (51:46) Personally.

Scott Benner (51:46) There's a way to look for that, though. (51:48) Am I wrong about that? (51:48) Like, it kind of you just, you just kinda

Shane (51:51) Yeah. (51:52) You kinda just, like, swipe Yeah.

Scott Benner (51:53) You change

Shane (51:54) other way.

Scott Benner (51:54) You change what you talk about in in your buy I would be terrible at this, by the way. (51:59) Also, I think Yeah.

Shane (52:00) It's definitely very, you know, it's not

Scott Benner (52:06) very, like Optimal? (52:07) It's not optimal. (52:08) Right?

Shane (52:09) Yeah. (52:10) Because, like, a lot of them now too, like like so when I first using, like, dating apps, like, I use everyone knows Tinder and, like, Bumble. (52:21) Like, that's why I use, like, when I was first in college.

Scott Benner (52:24) Mhmm.

Shane (52:27) But, like, you'd be able to talk to people a lot easier. (52:29) But now if you don't pay for them, it's, like, a lot harder as a guy, at least, to get

Scott Benner (52:38) Oh. (52:39) It's like putting up a Facebook post and needing to boost it for anybody to see it.

Shane (52:43) Exactly.

Scott Benner (52:43) No kidding.

Shane (52:44) Yeah. (52:45) So I now that's how now it feels like I needed to boost myself versus, like, when the apps were so new, it was a lot more just like

Scott Benner (52:55) Well, they wanted people to have success in the beginning because they wanted you to tell other people about it. (53:00) Mm-mm. (53:00) Yeah. (53:01) Now now everybody has to use it, so now they gotta make some money off it somehow. (53:05) This is the part where they make the money.

Shane (53:07) Yeah.

Scott Benner (53:07) So That's a bummer, man. (53:09) Like, it it really is. (53:10) Like, I I don't know that it's that much different in generations past. (53:13) Like, you go get a job where, you know, whether you're a woman or a man, like, if you go get a job in a, you know you know, especially if you're I guess if you're a guy, you go get a job in a in a mainly male, like, you know, ecosystem. (53:26) There's just not a lot of women to meet.

Scott Benner (53:28) And, you know, if you if you're a girl, you go out, maybe they're you're in a little more mixed company, and that might be a little easier. (53:34) But, you know, I mean, you're in a warehouse. (53:36) I mean, there's not a ton of I wouldn't imagine, like, the the ratio must be pretty heavy to men where you're at. (53:41) Right? (53:43) In the warehouse.

Shane (53:44) I don't work at a warehouse anymore. (53:45) Oh, yeah. (53:45) No. (53:46) You're absolutely correct. (53:47) When I do go to my company's warehouse, it's mainly

Scott Benner (53:51) A bunch of guys.

Shane (53:52) Male dominated.

Scott Benner (53:53) Yeah. (53:53) Yeah. (53:53) Yeah. (53:53) Yeah. (53:54) Not what you're looking for, unless you are.

Scott Benner (53:56) I didn't ask you, but you just No. (53:58) Yeah. (53:58) Okay. (53:59) Yeah. (54:00) So what do you so do you live on your own, do you live at home still?

Shane (54:04) I have, roommates right now. (54:07) So, a split rent. (54:11) So it's, it's working out. (54:15) I we have no we we I've been living with the same couple of dudes for, once in a while, three years.

Scott Benner (54:25) Three years. (54:26) Okay.

Shane (54:27) Yeah. (54:27) And I I and when I lived in college too, had roommates. (54:30) Like, at one point, I lived with, like, five other guys. (54:32) Yeah. (54:33) So that was a This is There's a lot

Scott Benner (54:36) going on. (54:36) There's a lot going on.

Shane (54:37) A lot of smells. (54:38) Yeah. (54:38) Yeah. (54:39) Yeah. (54:40) It was, like, fifty fifty.

Shane (54:41) Like, half of us clean, half of us didn't, and then there was, a battle.

Scott Benner (54:46) Just the guy that vacuums and then everybody else just quietly sits there and goes, let him vacuum if he's gonna vacuum. (54:51) What about, it's interesting. (54:54) What what what about that that, having roommates? (54:59) Like, do do you have to, at some point, say to somebody, like, look. (55:02) I might need help, like or this is my glucagon.

Scott Benner (55:04) Like, if you had those conversations with people?

Shane (55:06) Yeah. (55:07) No. (55:07) Every one of my roommates has been very aware, and they're always been, like, occasionally, like, throughout time, but, like, how's everything going? (55:15) You know, like, is there anything I can do?

Scott Benner (55:17) Oh, that's cool.

Shane (55:18) Or just, like, hey. (55:19) Like, here's some snacks. (55:21) Like, I got you.

Scott Benner (55:22) You seem low. (55:25) Has that ever happened? (55:26) Has has a roommate ever come up to you and been like, hey, man. (55:28) Look. (55:28) You seem like maybe you need something?

Scott Benner (55:32) No. (55:32) No. (55:33) They're not that proactive.

Shane (55:34) I think people forget sometimes that I'm diabetic, honestly.

Scott Benner (55:38) Do you like that? (55:42) I

Shane (55:45) try to go throughout the day myself just like I'm not gonna let this get in the way. (55:52) Good. (55:53) So I'm gonna do what I gotta do to take care of myself and then go from there.

Scott Benner (56:03) If I asked you to describe yourself, like, how long how many things do you think you'd have to say before you got to, I have diabetes?

Shane (56:16) Yeah. (56:17) I mean, I I'd be more than my ten fingers.

Scott Benner (56:23) Yeah. (56:23) You'd be going for a while. (56:24) Right? (56:24) How did you find the how did you find me? (56:26) How did you find the podcast?

Shane (56:29) I think I just typed in, like, diabetes one day on Spotify.

Scott Benner (56:34) No kidding. (56:34) Yeah. (56:35) And then it

Shane (56:36) popped up, I was like, Juice Box. (56:37) I'm like, oh, like, obviously, like, you get a juice from your blood sugar

Scott Benner (56:41) as well. (56:42) That was it? (56:42) That was that my marketing worked on you?

Shane (56:45) Yeah. (56:46) It was really good.

Scott Benner (56:47) Thank you.

Shane (56:50) It's very good.

Scott Benner (56:51) My genius overwhelmed you, and you were like, oh, I have to follow.

Shane (56:55) Yeah. (56:55) No. (56:55) And then I listened to it, and I was like, this is very insightful. (57:01) You get to hear a lot of different perspectives Yeah. (57:06) Backgrounds.

Shane (57:08) And I think it's just good that you have this going, Scott, because it I I you know, I never done anything like this. (57:20) And

Scott Benner (57:21) Yeah. (57:21) You're nervous to do this. (57:22) Right? (57:24) Yeah. (57:24) Yeah.

Scott Benner (57:25) Yeah. (57:25) Yeah. (57:25) Yeah. (57:25) Yeah. (57:25) But but why was it important for you to come on and talk?

Shane (57:30) I just feel like, I hope I could've brought a different perspective out of it to provide.

Scott Benner (57:41) So No. (57:41) I just wanna

Shane (57:42) for having the disease for twenty three years, personally.

Scott Benner (57:46) Well yeah. (57:46) So It it's interesting because you made it through some time, right, where you were I mean, you're doing your eight a one c, and you're you didn't have as much gear as you have right now. (57:55) Now you have the gear. (57:56) Like, did you find just getting the CGM and moving to what you moved to tandem. (58:00) Right?

Scott Benner (58:01) And moving to, like Yeah. (58:02) You're using an algorithm, you use, like, the x two or something like that? (58:05) Mhmm. (58:05) Yeah. (58:06) And so was that the difference in the rest of the improvement, or had you made an improvement before then and this just makes it easier?

Shane (58:13) Well, definitely, I am a lot healthier perfect, like, person now. (58:19) I kinda do, like, had, a moment of reflection. (58:24) Be like, what am I gonna do, like, outside of, like, work? (58:31) And it's like, I can't just come home. (58:34) Like, I'm not in college anymore.

Shane (58:35) I can't just, like, come home. (58:36) And, like, I I was like, oh, I I'm still drinking or, like, you know, I I I would vape or any stuff. (58:45) I'm like, this is terrible.

Scott Benner (58:46) Yeah. (58:47) You you working, coming home habit. (58:49) You were working, coming home, getting high? (58:51) Like, you were still in college?

Shane (58:55) I no. (58:55) I wouldn't say I was, like, coming home and being high. (58:57) I no. (58:58) I broke that pretty quickly.

Scott Benner (59:00) That you broke

Shane (59:01) basically, it was just, like, who I was associated with

Scott Benner (59:03) Okay.

Shane (59:04) At the time. (59:04) That was, like, be like, oh, like, I made a pack myself. (59:08) Like, I would never smoke by myself with particularly weed because it's

Scott Benner (59:14) Seems sad. (59:15) Boring.

Shane (59:15) Yeah. (59:16) It's sad. (59:16) It's more fun when you're with others. (59:18) So Right. (59:20) Once I lost the association of people that smoke weed

Scott Benner (59:23) Weed went away. (59:25) Weed went away. (59:26) Okay. (59:27) You did it help you with your anxiety?

Shane (59:31) No.

Scott Benner (59:32) No. (59:32) Made it worse? (59:33) Did it make it worse?

Shane (59:34) You're telling yourself, like, oh, this is helping me. (59:36) But deep down, it's it's not.

Scott Benner (59:38) It's not. (59:39) It wasn't helping you.

Shane (59:40) It wasn't helping me. (59:41) It can help out, though. (59:42) Yeah. (59:42) Everyone's different.

Scott Benner (59:43) Yeah. (59:43) I know. (59:44) Of course.

Shane (59:44) So if it helps

Scott Benner (59:44) you out Yeah. (59:46) Right on that. (59:46) Don't mind. (59:46) Listen. (59:47) I don't care what

Shane (59:47) Yeah. (59:47) And and then it's also about, like, how much you do and when. (59:52) So, you know, if it's Monday morning, I'm gonna have my bomb. (59:58) Right?

Scott Benner (59:59) That's a little different than you have, like, a a pen that you hit twice a day.

Shane (1:00:02) Yeah. (1:00:03) And, no, like, my senior college, I got to one point like that. (1:00:05) Like, I'd wake up, and this is during COVID. (1:00:07) Like, I'm like, what am I doing with my life? (1:00:10) Like, I wake up.

Shane (1:00:10) I, like I don't even eat breakfast, like, brush my teeth. (1:00:14) I just, like, hit a the bowl or, like, a bun and then just sit around the couch. (1:00:20) Know the beards.

Scott Benner (1:00:21) Shane, you know you're in trouble when you start having philosophical conversations with your friends where you're like, do you think we should get a water bong? (1:00:27) I think it would make it better. (1:00:29) Like, you're like, like, how much better does weed need to get exactly? (1:00:32) You you know what I mean? (1:00:33) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:00:34) Yeah. (1:00:34) But so what were you using, a, like, a heat pen, like, of like, just you're not even burning it. (1:00:40) Right? (1:00:40) Like, you're just heating it up and vaping it?

Shane (1:00:42) Yeah. (1:00:43) Scott, it's crazy, like, how, like, so much changed when I went to college because, like, vapes didn't exist

Scott Benner (1:00:50) Mhmm. (1:00:50) When I

Shane (1:00:50) was in high school. (1:00:51) Now they do. (1:00:53) So and then there was, like, different kinds of vapes. (1:00:55) And, like, there was, like, these, like just like music. (1:00:58) It's like, oh, there's the jewel.

Shane (1:01:01) Now there's a storm. (1:01:02) Now there's a mister Vapor. (1:01:04) And now the list goes on. (1:01:06) And it's like, now after that, I don't even know what they are now. (1:01:08) It's like, I stopped.

Scott Benner (1:01:10) Mister Vapor. (1:01:10) Mister Vapor is a funny name.

Shane (1:01:13) Yeah. (1:01:13) It's like, oh, like, oh, he's got the breeze.

Scott Benner (1:01:16) The breeze? (1:01:17) Oh. (1:01:17) You're like Yeah. (1:01:18) Now now people have social status based on the vape that they have?

Shane (1:01:21) Yeah. (1:01:22) Or it's like, what is that? (1:01:23) Like, oh, he has a breeze.

Scott Benner (1:01:25) He knows he knows things.

Shane (1:01:27) Yeah. (1:01:27) And I was just like And, obviously, nicotine

Scott Benner (1:01:33) is a drug. (1:01:34) Yeah.

Shane (1:01:34) Caffeine is a drug. (1:01:37) Those have direct correlation. (1:01:41) Alcohol. (1:01:42) Weed, not so much, honestly, from what I can tell, and fluctuating manually. (1:01:49) Like, obviously, I'd eat food, and that would do it.

Scott Benner (1:01:52) Right. (1:01:53) But weed didn't touch your blood sugar? (1:01:56) No. (1:01:57) No. (1:01:57) Beer did, obviously.

Shane (1:01:59) Beer, obviously, deal with with carbs. (1:02:01) Yeah. (1:02:01) Liquor, that's you know, depends if you're, like, chasing or mixing

Scott Benner (1:02:07) Right.

Shane (1:02:07) With other concoctions.

Scott Benner (1:02:09) So That's a lot, man. (1:02:11) Yeah. (1:02:12) It's a it's a lot. (1:02:13) Like, you leave, you're a kid, you go out there in the world, all of a sudden, all this stuff is not just, there. (1:02:17) It's, like, readily available.

Scott Benner (1:02:18) Right? (1:02:18) So you're trying things and and then but it sounds like you cycled through it pretty quickly. (1:02:23) It's it feels like you got the, like, the what am I doing part pretty fast.

Shane (1:02:27) And Yeah. (1:02:28) And I also just like the I don't know. (1:02:31) It's like I feel like I've discussed enough about myself where I I like to try something like, go do something, try something.

Scott Benner (1:02:42) Yeah. (1:02:42) You wanna get into the world. (1:02:43) You wanna get to life now. (1:02:44) Right? (1:02:44) Like, that's your I feel like that's what I'm hearing from you.

Scott Benner (1:02:46) Like, you I wanna get out, be around people, do interesting things whether I'm good at them or not, try stuff, try new stuff, keep moving. (1:02:53) Do you wanna get married?

Shane (1:02:55) Yeah. (1:02:55) I do.

Scott Benner (1:02:55) Yeah.

Shane (1:02:56) Yeah. (1:02:57) Yeah. (1:02:57) Definitely. (1:02:58) I I have a lot of inspiration come from my my family, you know, from aunts, uncles Mhmm. (1:03:07) My parents, siblings.

Shane (1:03:11) So Good. (1:03:12) Definitely inspires me. (1:03:14) You know, like, I'm an uncle myself self now.

Scott Benner (1:03:17) Yeah.

Shane (1:03:18) So it's great to hang out and get that exposure too.

Scott Benner (1:03:25) See people living lives with other people around them, people they love and care for and care about and everything. (1:03:30) Yeah. (1:03:30) It's interesting because there's it there's a lot of data that it feels like it's it's kinda funny. (1:03:36) Right? (1:03:36) Like, if you ask if you ask married people, if they're happier because they're married, like, it's interesting how the answers come back.

Scott Benner (1:03:46) You you know, like, people say, you know, they they definitely need people around, and they wanna have personal relationships in their home and everything. (1:03:54) But, but I think some of the data says that, like, people with children are less happy. (1:04:00) But at the same time, if you ask them if they'd not want their children, nobody generally says yes. (1:04:06) But they do report they report themselves as loving having kids, loving having a family, seeing how important and valuable it is in their life. (1:04:13) But, yes, I don't think I'm as happy as I would have been if I didn't have them.

Scott Benner (1:04:16) Isn't that interesting? (1:04:17) Like, good Yeah. (1:04:18) That is. (1:04:19) Yeah.

Shane (1:04:19) Yeah. (1:04:19) I mean, know anytime I go home and I see my parents, like, they're pumped. (1:04:26) So

Scott Benner (1:04:26) No. (1:04:27) They're probably thrilled.

Shane (1:04:28) Oh, they they probably on down the road too. (1:04:29) I'm sure, like, that can just change throughout time because maybe, you know

Scott Benner (1:04:33) No. (1:04:34) Shane, unless your parents are meth heads, like, I they're they're probably sitting around quietly just waiting to see you again, and they're probably just thrilled to see you. (1:04:42) You know? (1:04:43) Yeah. (1:04:44) I it's hard for you to know that at 26, but I guarantee you're somewhere your mom is just like, I wonder when I'll see Shane again.

Scott Benner (1:04:49) Like, seriously. (1:04:51) This is Pretty soon. (1:04:51) Yeah. (1:04:52) Pretty soon. (1:04:52) She has a good I need I need some laundry done.

Scott Benner (1:04:54) I got other things I got going on. (1:04:56) I'm gonna be

Shane (1:04:56) No. (1:04:56) No. (1:04:57) No. (1:04:57) I do. (1:04:57) I do.

Shane (1:04:58) I take care of my

Scott Benner (1:04:59) You do my own laundry. (1:05:00) So how long you think

Shane (1:05:01) She'll walk through that. (1:05:01) She'll be like, hey. (1:05:02) Brandon, I'm like, you don't need to do it.

Scott Benner (1:05:04) Yeah. (1:05:04) But you know why she's offering. (1:05:06) Right? (1:05:09) Don't know why she offers. (1:05:10) She misses you.

Scott Benner (1:05:11) She misses she misses that part of her life that's gone where she took care of you and and you were around all the time. (1:05:19) There's an argument to be made that you should let her do your laundry.

Shane (1:05:22) I I actually just did over Thanksgiving.

Scott Benner (1:05:25) So I bet you made her as happy as could possibly be. (1:05:27) She's probably she's probably

Shane (1:05:28) Here's my stinky laundry.

Scott Benner (1:05:30) She was probably thrilled, like, genuinely.

Shane (1:05:33) So I should give her my hockey bag.

Scott Benner (1:05:35) Yeah. (1:05:35) Well, nobody's gonna be happy about that. (1:05:37) There were some baseball stuff in there.

Shane (1:05:38) That thing stays zipped.

Scott Benner (1:05:40) Oh my god. (1:05:40) There's some stuff in my car when the kids were growing up. (1:05:43) I was like, oh, god. (1:05:44) Just throw it away. (1:05:44) We'll get another one.

Scott Benner (1:05:45) It's horrible. (1:05:46) Yeah. (1:05:46) Yeah. (1:05:46) Just really bad.

Shane (1:05:47) Those t shirts are only worn for hockey.

Scott Benner (1:05:51) You know, at 20, you You're permanently Yeah. (1:05:53) Yeah. (1:05:53) We were just talk how old do you think you'll be when you get married? (1:05:56) Do you have, like, a in your mind, is it

Shane (1:05:59) I have no like, this this time, this day, you know.

Scott Benner (1:06:05) No. (1:06:05) But in age. (1:06:06) Like, do you see yourself married by a time? (1:06:08) By, like, a

Shane (1:06:09) I wouldn't be surprised, like, if within the next four year.

Scott Benner (1:06:12) Four years. (1:06:12) Do you know that girl right now?

Shane (1:06:18) That's that's a great question. (1:06:24) I think so.

Scott Benner (1:06:25) Oh. (1:06:26) Yeah. (1:06:26) Look at you. (1:06:27) That's very nice. (1:06:28) Have you thrown darts at her yet?

Scott Benner (1:06:30) No. (1:06:30) No? (1:06:31) You should take her out. (1:06:32) See if she can throw a dart. (1:06:34) See if she can hang.

Scott Benner (1:06:35) She got a good sense of humor? (1:06:37) Mhmm. (1:06:38) That's good. (1:06:38) You're gonna need that. (1:06:39) Are you okay when she's mad?

Scott Benner (1:06:41) Because she's gonna yell at you a lot over the years.

Shane (1:06:43) Yeah. (1:06:44) Everyone gets mad.

Scott Benner (1:06:45) You'll be alright with that. (1:06:45) Okay.

Shane (1:06:48) You don't get mad. (1:06:49) It's like, oh, okay.

Scott Benner (1:06:51) Yeah. (1:06:51) Yeah. (1:06:51) Yeah. (1:06:51) Well, it is weird when people don't get upset, isn't it?

Shane (1:06:55) Yeah. (1:06:55) I mean, I really don't get upset a lot. (1:06:59) I know I don't. (1:07:00) But when I do, it's very obvious.

Scott Benner (1:07:03) Yeah. (1:07:03) Well, everybody gets upset. (1:07:04) Like, I'm I'm I'm weirded out by people who act like everything's always okay always. (1:07:08) I'm like, uh-huh. (1:07:09) What are you hiding exactly?

Scott Benner (1:07:11) You know? (1:07:12) No. (1:07:12) It's alright. (1:07:13) It's so interesting. (1:07:14) So this girl you know the girl, but you're not dating her.

Scott Benner (1:07:16) Is that right? (1:07:19) I mean You have? (1:07:21) No.

Shane (1:07:23) No. (1:07:23) That it's just something very new.

Scott Benner (1:07:25) It's something oh, it's a new oh, you've met a new person that you're that you think might be the right person.

Shane (1:07:30) Yeah. (1:07:31) I mean, I didn't date for a very long time, Scott. (1:07:34) So

Scott Benner (1:07:35) Because

Shane (1:07:35) I did that on purpose after college. (1:07:38) I'm like, I'm just gonna focus on work, finally making more, like, money. (1:07:45) Mhmm. (1:07:46) I need to.

Scott Benner (1:07:47) Yeah.

Shane (1:07:47) You know? (1:07:48) Like like, things are starting to get real now. (1:07:51) So, really went on, like, a journey of just, like, trying new things out, trying to meet more people, expand on stuff I love. (1:08:04) So I think in my email, I sent you reaching out. (1:08:12) Actually, I mentioned, like, doing long distance running.

Shane (1:08:17) So I found people that once I moved away from college to where I'm at now

Scott Benner (1:08:23) Yeah.

Shane (1:08:25) It really inspired me to really achieve, like, those milestones of, like, running a half marathon

Scott Benner (1:08:32) Mhmm.

Shane (1:08:33) A 25 k and a marathon. (1:08:39) And I'm really happy I did all that, but I don't think at now, at this moment, I would ever wanna do a marathon again. (1:08:50) Maybe a half an hour, but a marathon is just way too much.

Scott Benner (1:08:54) There's a lot of effort.

Shane (1:08:55) Especially being diabetic. (1:08:56) Yeah. (1:08:57) Like, I don't know how I did it when I

Scott Benner (1:09:00) did it. (1:09:01) Did you have a lot of supplies with you while you were running?

Shane (1:09:04) I had so much Gatorade. (1:09:07) I had, like, a belt wrapped around me. (1:09:12) And then

Scott Benner (1:09:13) You're like it was Gatorade. (1:09:14) You're like Batman with Gatorade going for a run.

Shane (1:09:17) Yeah. (1:09:18) Yeah. (1:09:18) I was the only person with Gatorade to strap on in the in the race. (1:09:24) I can see.

Scott Benner (1:09:25) I think the, the image for your episode will just be Batman in a marathon with food around his waist and and a really old sticky CGM cover.

Shane (1:09:35) Well, you also have to eat so much food and, like like, the amount of carbs that go into it. (1:09:40) And I'm like, I just can't do this for, like, a guy that's my size. (1:09:44) Like, I'm six foot, and I'm, like, two hundred ten pounds now. (1:09:48) Like, I actually gained weight from

Scott Benner (1:09:50) from trying to run. (1:09:51) Because, yeah, because you were feeding so many lows.

Shane (1:09:54) Yes. (1:09:54) Like, I would do my lawn run with my train buddy every Saturday. (1:10:05) And the longest one that we did got up to 20 miles at one

Scott Benner (1:10:09) Jeez.

Shane (1:10:09) At one point. (1:10:11) And I wouldn't be able to, like, move, like, walk downstairs. (1:10:15) I am like I'm like, this is brutal. (1:10:18) No. (1:10:18) If I drive me a It takes, like, three hours to do it.

Scott Benner (1:10:22) Oh my god. (1:10:23) If I had to drive 20 miles, I'd be irritated once a week. (1:10:26) But

Shane (1:10:29) it was the it was so much fun because, like, you have like, I listen to music.

Scott Benner (1:10:35) Yeah.

Shane (1:10:36) So I got to, like, really, like, dive into muse like, more. (1:10:41) And, I didn't listen to podcast. (1:10:44) I did not

Scott Benner (1:10:45) Is it hard?

Shane (1:10:46) Listen to music. (1:10:47) Yeah. (1:10:47) You listen to music when you're ready. (1:10:48) I listened to music the whole time during my actual race.

Scott Benner (1:10:52) That makes sense.

Shane (1:10:52) Like, I made a playlist that was four hours long. (1:10:55) And I'm like, okay. (1:10:56) If I make it to this song, I know I didn't finish Yeah. (1:11:02) In my time.

Scott Benner (1:11:02) I have an I have a last question for you. (1:11:04) Did when you found the podcast, did you did you listen to the management stuff? (1:11:09) Like, did you care for the pro tip series, for example, or did you get your information out of conversations?

Shane (1:11:14) Yeah. (1:11:15) I listened to the pro tip series. (1:11:17) I I was very sporadic in listening to the podcast. (1:11:23) Mhmm. (1:11:24) I'm very sporadic in general general.

Shane (1:11:28) But yeah. (1:11:31) No. (1:11:32) Listening to your protest series and just like it's a nice reminder for stuff I already know

Scott Benner (1:11:40) Mhmm.

Shane (1:11:40) That I've been told throughout time just to be like, oh, yeah. (1:11:44) Or just you know, like, I need those those reminders.

Scott Benner (1:11:49) The reminders. (1:11:50) It keeps it in your head. (1:11:51) Right?

Shane (1:11:52) Yes. (1:11:52) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:11:53) I I

Shane (1:11:54) Even though, like, I've dealt with this for twenty plus years, so it's still need to be reminded.

Scott Benner (1:12:00) Right. (1:12:01) Right. (1:12:01) No. (1:12:01) I I agree with you. (1:12:02) I think it it's very valuable like that for people.

Scott Benner (1:12:04) Did your a one c or your variability get better when you were listening, or does is it better when you're listening?

Shane (1:12:11) Yeah. (1:12:12) I would say so far, there is a correlation with that. (1:12:15) It's definitely very in par with using a CGM.

Scott Benner (1:12:19) Mhmm.

Shane (1:12:20) But, yeah, my last a one c was a 6.4.

Scott Benner (1:12:26) Good for you, man.

Shane (1:12:27) I hear

Scott Benner (1:12:27) That's awesome. (1:12:28) You're 26. (1:12:28) You get a 6.4. (1:12:29) You're making money. (1:12:30) You got your eye on a lady.

Scott Benner (1:12:32) You might have you might be you might have a baby eight years from now.

Shane (1:12:37) Very true. (1:12:38) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:12:38) You would you worry about diabetes for the baby?

Shane (1:12:41) Yes. (1:12:42) This podcast has actually opened up my eyes to to that.

Scott Benner (1:12:48) So you you know what to look out for you know what to look out for then? (1:12:51) Mhmm. (1:12:52) Okay. (1:12:53) Yeah. (1:12:53) It's a lot, man.

Scott Benner (1:12:54) Life's big. (1:12:54) You know? (1:12:56) Yeah. (1:12:56) Yeah. (1:12:57) How do you think you're doing?

Scott Benner (1:12:58) Like, if I I I know I that was my last question. (1:13:02) This is my last question. (1:13:03) How are you doing? (1:13:05) And and how what are your what are your expectations for the future? (1:13:12) Do you think you're gonna do well, like, with your health?

Scott Benner (1:13:14) Like, do you feel generally positive, generally neutral? (1:13:17) Like, how do you feel about the future?

Shane (1:13:19) Right now, I'm doing a lot better than I was two years ago, I would say, in a multitude of aspects from, like, mentally, mentally, physically, financially, really taking that time for twelve months to set aside, to really think about the future and

Scott Benner (1:13:44) Pull yourself together a little bit.

Shane (1:13:46) Yeah. (1:13:47) Yeah. (1:13:47) Yeah. (1:13:48) And I am definitely a little worried just because, like, you know, I just in the sense that, like you know, like, I don't know what diabetes is gonna do to me, like, in complications.

Scott Benner (1:14:14) You're worried you're worried that something unforeseen could happen.

Shane (1:14:17) Yeah. (1:14:18) I mean, that's life, though.

Scott Benner (1:14:19) Yeah. (1:14:20) You're right. (1:14:20) I I think that is life. (1:14:21) Also, I mean, listen. (1:14:22) Keep your a one c where it's at.

Scott Benner (1:14:24) Keep it nice and stable. (1:14:25) Don't have a lot of lows. (1:14:25) Don't have a bunch of highs that you ignore, and I think you got a real good shot. (1:14:29) You know what I mean?

Shane (1:14:30) Mhmm.

Scott Benner (1:14:30) Yeah. (1:14:31) No. (1:14:31) It's interesting. (1:14:31) If if I could have gone back, like you said, you're better off now than you were two years ago. (1:14:35) If I go back three years ago, is there anything I could have said to 23 year old Shane that would have snapped him out of it, or did you have to go through this process?

Shane (1:14:44) I think I had to just go through this process. (1:14:48) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:14:48) Yeah. (1:14:49) I think I believe that too.

Shane (1:14:51) Okay. (1:14:51) Yeah.

Scott Benner (1:14:51) Alright, Shane. (1:14:52) I appreciate you doing this. (1:14:53) I really, thank you very much for taking the time, and I know I had a little technical thing in the beginning. (1:14:57) I appreciate you being, patient about that. (1:14:59) No.

Shane (1:15:00) Of course. (1:15:00) Thank you, Scott. (1:15:01) I really appreciate your time today too and and talking with you, and no worries about that. (1:15:06) I'm glad we got the the all work out. (1:15:09) So

Scott Benner (1:15:09) Yeah. (1:15:09) This is awesome. (1:15:10) Thank you so much, man. (1:15:12) Hold on one second for me. (1:15:13) Yep.

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