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Diabetic alert service dog

Esther is a type 1 who has a diabetic alert service dog. She also has hypothyroidism.

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Scott Benner 0:09
Hello everybody and welcome to Episode 430 of the Juicebox Podcast Hey show is with a young woman who has type one diabetes, and diabetes alert service dog. Esther knows a ton about this topic, and she's a lot of fun. Plus, she's got a great story. All you have to do is sit back, relax, or continue to march to the grocery store, do your dishes or ignore your family, whatever you're doing with your headphones on right now. And listen as we present to you another episode of the Juicebox Podcast. Please remember while you're listening that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan are becoming bold with insulin. If after this you want to find Esther on Instagram, she is chronically underscored annoyed, chronically annoyed, underscore in between the words understand the underscore Well, if you don't, you're not gonna find her. Or I guess you could just search for chronically annoyed and then look for dogs. And then I think you'll find her honest. Listen to my understanding of Instagram searches.

This episode of The Juicebox Podcast is sponsored by the insulin pump that my daughter has been wearing for over 12 years. Omni pod, you can get a free no obligation demo of the Omni pod tubeless insulin pump by going to my link at my Omni pod.com Ford slash juice box. And to learn more about ardens continuous glucose monitor her Dexcom je six, head over to dexcom.com forward slash juicebox. The Dexcom is perfect for anyone using insulin. And of course, if you're looking to get involved, where to learn more about a great organization, check out touched by type one at touched by type one.org. We're on Facebook and Instagram.

Esther 2:10
Hi, I'm Esther, I'm a type one diabetic. I'm an artist. I'm a teacher and I'm a service dog handler.

Scott Benner 2:17
Service Dog handler that's interesting. You You're you may I'm gonna probably use the wrong words here. But I'm not sure you own a service dog. Right? It helps you with your the dog helps you with your type one.

Esther 2:28
Yes, I have a diabetic alert service dog.

Scott Benner 2:31
But the but the terminology would be service dog handler. Is that to infer. But is that what am I making sense here? like is that so you? Yeah. Tell me about

Esther 2:44
being a handler and first, I own and rely on my dog? I don't train them for other people.

Scott Benner 2:50
Gotcha. That's what I wasn't sure about. So there are people who are trainers, but not necessarily users for the lack of a better term, I guess ball handler, right. I got it. I'm finding these things out. Okay, so let's talk. Let's start at the beginning. When were you diagnosed? How old are you now?

Esther 3:09
February 10 2000. And I am almost 23. At this point,

Unknown Speaker 3:15
you were three. When you were diagnosed?

Esther 3:17
I was barely two and a half,

Scott Benner 3:20
two and a half. Wow. That must feel like not even somebody that must not even feel like your story, right?

Esther 3:28
Yes and no. I don't have the usual diagnosis story. We had just moved. I am from a military family. And we had just moved to Arkansas and my dad had gone overseas to Turkey for a year long, single deployment. Okay. So we weren't even in a house yet. We were with my grandparents. And my grandmother is type two diabetic. And my mom was really obsessed with this very popular TV show. Maybe you've heard of it. It's called mash. She was

Scott Benner 4:05
a fan. Yes, I was as well, by the way.

Esther 4:08
And she saw the episode with the diabetic helicopter pilot. So when I started drinking like an inhuman amount of liquids and wetting the bed and showing these signs, she decided to use my grandmother's glucometer to check my blood sugar

Scott Benner 4:27
because of what she saw on mash.

Unknown Speaker 4:29
Yes. Wow.

Unknown Speaker 4:31
There we go.

Esther 4:33
So we we were in a very small town, she took me to the doctor an hour away. And next thing you knew we were at Arkansas Children's Hospital. And the doctors were like, how is she not in a coma? or dead or NDK? And the answer was mash. So I got diagnosed and we didn't even stay in the hospital very long. The only downside was My father wasn't allowed to come back for the diagnosis. So my mom had to take care of my older siblings and learn the whole diabetes shebang by herself.

Scott Benner 5:09
Yeah. In 2000. Right, right in around 2000. Yes. Wow. Mash, by the way, was on in the 70s. Mm hmm. So and I remember that exact episode. I mean, I say something that might embarrass me. But I received the entire run of mash as a gift. digitally, and in the past year or so I've watched the entire and there's a lot of episodes.

Esther 5:38
I started watching it on Hulu. And I haven't even gotten through a third of it.

Scott Benner 5:42
Yeah, I don't. I want to be clear that I don't sit down and watch I watch while I'm doing something else. Yes, yeah, dishes, laundry, you know, making food, things like that. I really don't want people to think that I sat for how many episodes going on forever. And I'm thinking now that the helicopter pilots name was smiling jack. And I remember I can remember the whole thing like he was he was like one of the best helicopter pilots and didn't want to stop flying. And the only need to bring home a couple more people to like, I don't know, like reach some sort of an award or something. And they figured out he had diabetes. I I've got the whole thing. Am I so embarrassed? I believe there were I'm gonna look now because I don't I don't want to be wrong about this. There were 11 seasons of mash. And that was back when, when you made an effort when you made a television show. There were a lot of episodes every season like usually 25 or 26 or something like that. So there's a ton of them. Okay, so mash figured out that you had type one diabetes, but then we had to move forward. There were no other episodes of mash to help your mom I don't think what TV show Did she go to next to figure out type one?

Esther 7:01
That's interesting, because you know, you were already writing your blog at that time. But my mother is not very tech savvy. So she didn't you know, jump on the whole internet train. Yeah. And we moved a lot. I am the fifth of eight children, military family, we moved a lot. I didn't grow up going to jdrf events or diabetes camp. It was just kind of me and mom, roughing it changing endos every couple years with every move. Yeah. Stuff like that. She read a lot of books. We have so many copies of the Pink Panther book. So she read a lot of books. And she learned as she went. And we made it work.

Scott Benner 7:53
That's amazing. I mean, I guess that's all you can do. Really? Yeah. 2000 I mean, the technology wasn't terrible, right? What? What are you using for insulin? Do you you know, have you ever asked?

Esther 8:04
I have asked I don't know what insulin I was on originally, but a few years later, I was on I was put on novolog and I've been using novolog ever since. They started us out with pens. However, I was a two and a half year old child and the pens were scary. So we moved to using regular syringes with miles until I was in elementary school. I want to say 2005 or six I was put on the Animas 2000.

Scott Benner 8:34
That's a pump that people really loved. We did you have it right up until it was just Hey,

Esther 8:40
no, no. So I had the NMS 2000. And it was top of the line it was water resistant. It was the first one where you could detach and put a placeholder in the site and just swimming without your pump. It was really really nifty. Until I broke it. I actually broke to animals to 1000s my younger sister chewed the rubber buttons off of one and the other malfunctions going down a slide at a Burger King playplace because of the static electricity,

Unknown Speaker 9:11
homos useless. Please tell me she was like 50

Esther 9:15
Oh, no, she was a she was a toddler. It

Scott Benner 9:18
would have been more fun if she was like 23 and she got the rubber buttons off of your insulin pump. So that's that's pretty funny.

Esther 9:28
But the Burger King slide incident happened in Germany. So that was a nerve wracking. But Animas pulled through and they got us a new pump very, very quickly. And the new pump after that incident was the one touch pain.

Scott Benner 9:46
That's the one I'm thinking of. Okay.

Esther 9:48
That was the first animus pump that came with its own glucometer and it had, I don't know if it was Bluetooth but it wireless wirelessly sent your blood sugar from the glucometer to pump. So I had the one touch ping up until 2009 when I decided I was done with the pump done with the wires and I went back on pens for many years until I got on Omni pod in 2016.

Scott Benner 10:16
Excellent. You know, I just did something while you were telling me about that that ended up being really, really a huge letdown I tried to translate Burger King into German and it's Burger King. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 10:31
I could have told you that.

Unknown Speaker 10:32
What a letdown that was.

Unknown Speaker 10:37
Damn it. Oh my gosh.

Esther 10:39
He's on a military base.

Scott Benner 10:41
So I just said Burger King. Cuz you guys. I figured it'd be like a German translation for burger at least but it's not. Apparently there's not no

Esther 10:49
because it's a franchise.

Scott Benner 10:51
Such a letdown. I'm not joking with you. I was really there was a moment there. Oh, wow, this went wrong on me. Okay, why you have a lot of brothers and sisters. Did your dad just get your mom pregnant every time he came home from the military. How'd that work? Exactly?

Unknown Speaker 11:05
Yeah, pretty much. That's how it works. Yeah.

Esther 11:09
What's funny is that when my parents got married in the 80s, my mom didn't want kids. And my dad said, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. And apparently they crossed it multiple times.

Scott Benner 11:18
He crossed it about every 10 and a half months probably it sounds like

Esther 11:22
my oldest sibling is 30 now and my youngest is 14.

Scott Benner 11:27
Do you think your parents call having sex crossing that bridge? Honey, it's time to cross the bridge again. Oh my gosh. Oh. Any other diabetes in with your family with those those brothers and sisters?

Esther 11:44
Not type one. But we have the genes. Both my parents have hypothyroidism, myself and three or four of my siblings all have hypothyroidism. My 16 year old sister was just recently diagnosed with an amplified pain syndrome, which is another chronic illness. We have food allergies galore, celiac tendencies. So it's like a sensitivity not true. celiacs disease. I'm lactose intolerance. Lots of fun stuff.

Scott Benner 12:14
You guys are a party. Your dog is probably like, I gotta get out of here. I'm gonna get sick. Ever see him scratch at the door. He's like, I gotta go. How did you end up with a service dog? What was your your pathway to that.

Esther 12:30
So this was really fun. I didn't really know a lot about service dogs. I knew Guide Dogs existed. But when I was a senior in high school, somebody put it on my Facebook page, they sent me a little documentary about diabetic alert dogs. And I was like, what, this is a thing. And of course, my animal loving, teenage self jumped on that train and Dove headfirst into research. And I went to my parents about it. I was like, Guys, did you know that this existed? This is amazing. And they were like, yeah, we looked into it when you were a kid. It was just way too expensive. I was like, Oh, well,

Scott Benner 13:06
great. Thanks. We just thought maybe one day a dog would come out. We have having babies, we would train the dog. We tried to train your sister wants to do it for you. But she ended up just chewing the buttons off your

that's good. I'm having a lot of fun at your parents expense. Don't let them listen to this.

Esther 13:25
I have a lot of fun at their expense, too. Oh,

Unknown Speaker 13:28
well, Lucky them. In fact, then

Esther 13:31
I'm the middle child,

Scott Benner 13:32
I can get away it just yeah, there's too many people on either side of it, you can kind of blend in if you need to. Well, so a lot of you know, a lot of issues that are all centered around autoimmune. And so and you guys move around a ton. So it must be difficult for all of those people to find doctors to help them. Does that. Is that a problem for everybody? Or, or how to work?

Esther 13:57
Okay, so when you move to a new military base or a new station, it takes a couple months, but you generally get set up with the on base clinic with your primary care provider. The problem is getting the referral for the specialist, you know the endocrinologist Okay. And then the problem is which endocrinologist take your insurance? And is that endocrinologist good for you? Or are you stuck with them and they're not really listening to you? So

Scott Benner 14:26
are you saying that your your general practitioner is on base, but then you have to leave the base to get more specialized care? Yes, I got it. Okay. Ah, oh, so how many times? How many different windows? Do you think you've had

Esther 14:40
more than a dozen? I have moved about 13 times in my life.

Scott Benner 14:43
Okay, here's an interesting question of more than a dozen. How many good windows Do you feel like you've had?

Unknown Speaker 14:48
For me? No three.

Scott Benner 14:51
who just got knocked off the list at the end there who almost made it? I'm trying to imagine that one. Like, there was four or no, you know, I don't want to count him?

Esther 15:01
Well see, I don't always have an endocrinologist, I generally will have an endocrinologist team. The question is, do I see the endocrinologist? Or do I see the nurse practitioner? Yeah, cuz some places, I see the endocrinologist once and then never hear from them again. And I always see the nurse practitioner. And then some stations, we've had to fight for the referral, because the primary care thinks that they can take care of the type one on their own when they have no idea when what they're talking about.

Scott Benner 15:31
Well, that's interesting. Sometimes they've tried to keep you on the base for the entirety of the care. We can handle this. Have you ever tried that?

Unknown Speaker 15:39
No, no. I wonder

Scott Benner 15:41
as you're getting older and older, if you'll decide, well, I guess, you know, let's ask this question. How do you feel about your level of care? Like, are you happy with where you're at? Are there improvements you're trying to make? Are there difficulties? Where are you? Where are you right now?

Esther 15:56
Right now with my care, my I had a very good nurse practitioner. She retired, so I'm about to start breaking in a new nurse practitioner in September. And I my, as far as diabetes ago, it's pretty average, I'm getting average care. Uh, the problem is that nobody is taking care of my thyroid. And that's what's really beaten me up right now. You know,

Scott Benner 16:22
I haven't dug completely into this yet on the podcast, but I will at some point when I have complete details. But I've watched my wife struggle with hypothyroidism, and then Arden. And we're in the middle right now. of, we have just found a doctor who's a more, I don't know how to say it a less actually in the box thinker, and is making adjustments and working on other things. And I have to tell you, like really making leaps and bounds improvements for both my wife and my daughter, just by having somebody who doesn't look at the testing and say, Oh, it's in Ranger, okay. And treating the symptoms instead of the number in the test. If that makes right. You know,

Esther 17:12
my current problem is that my TSH, my number for my thyroid is out of range. And my previous nurse practitioner didn't really want to take any drastic steps

Scott Benner 17:24
to fix it. What would a drastic step have been like more medicine?

Esther 17:29
No, I've gone through two dose increases, but I'm drastic step. something other than that, something other than just increase the Synthroid. Maybe we can look at other medications. Maybe we can look at a thyroid booster to take on top of the medication. Look at it from a different angle. Yes, they

Scott Benner 17:51
don't want to talk about vitamins or other other things that might be helpful. Do you have any joint pain or muscle pain or anything like that?

Esther 18:03
Yes, but it's it's not related to the thyroid. It's related to snapping my collarbone in half in 2013.

Scott Benner 18:11
Specific pain. Gotcha.

Unknown Speaker 18:12
Yeah.

Scott Benner 18:15
Was that trying to stop the dog from escaping? Is that what we

Esther 18:18
know that was flipping backwards off of a golf cart at like 20 miles per hour? I

Scott Benner 18:22
don't think you should have done that. Just in case you're looking for my fault. It was the drivers fault driver to golf too fast.

Esther 18:29
I did not eat myself off the back of a golf cart.

Scott Benner 18:33
Are you certain? No, wow, that's terrible. How bad how badly did but let's talk about that just for a second. How badly Did that hurt? Do you use insulin, then you need the Dexcom g six continuous glucose monitor. That is my opinion. Because when you use insulin fluctuations happen, and you're blind to them if you can't see what's going on inside of your body, but the Dexcom gives you that look, you get to see the speed and direction of your blood sugar. And it makes a huge difference. When making decisions about insulin and food. You also have to consider your safety at times. And the Dexcom g six has built in alarms to help you with that. You can set the low alarm wherever you want the high alarm wherever you want. And the Dexcom will tell you when you reach that threshold. That knowledge gives you the ability to stop a low before it becomes a problem or to stop arise before it becomes a high blood sugar that ruins hours of your day. Head over to dexcom.com forward slash juice box to learn more about the Dexcom g six continuous glucose monitor. My daughter has been wearing it for years. And that is at the core of how we keep her a one c between five two and six. For now over six years. I'm confident that the information that The Dexcom gives back to you could help you do the same. Are you using a tube pump or injecting your insulin and wish you weren't, you don't have to, you could use the Omnipod tubeless insulin pump, it is self contained. So for pumpers out there who are accustomed to getting their tubing stuck on door handles or ripping out their sets or taking off their pumps to take a shower or go swimming and then forgetting to put them back on, and their blood sugar's shooting up, none of that happens with Omni pod. You can check it out easily at Miami pod.com, forward slash juicebox. And after you're there, and you think this might be a good idea, you can ask Omni pod to send you a free, no obligation demo of the pump. And they will do that easy. You just ask and then they do it. It comes to your home. And then you can wear it or put it on your child, whoever needs to understand what it's like to wear it on the pod can before they buy. If you decide later, that only pod is for you. That's terrific. It's easy to move forward. And if you don't like it, it's not a big deal. It didn't cost you anything and there was no obligation. My Omni pod.com forward slash juicebox tubeless insulin pumping is next level. My daughter has been using an omni pod for over 12 years, she's worn one every day since she was four years old. It is an absolute friend in the journey with type one diabetes, and it could help you in your use of insulin as well. Last thing touched by type one is an organization dedicated to helping people with type one diabetes. And they would just like you to know about them to check them out. Touched by type one.org. You can also find them on Instagram, and Facebook. As a matter of fact, all of the advertisers are listed right there in the show notes of your podcast player, where there are links that you could find easily at Juicebox Podcast comm

there's a lot more left to Esther's story. So let's get back to it. First, we'll find out what it was like to be tossed off that golf cart.

Esther 22:09
It hurts so bad that I have memory loss,

Unknown Speaker 22:11
just tried to let the whole thing

Esther 22:13
out. He went into shock and I still don't remember. I remember going down. And I don't remember anything from hitting the ground to basically coming to on the way to the emergency room. No

Scott Benner 22:26
kidding. Were you actually playing golf? are you riding in a car?

Esther 22:29
No, I was at a summer camp.

Scott Benner 22:31
Ah, just going from place to place. Yes. I was gonna say How were you shooting up until then I was looking for your score. And what whole year just for the golf fans, you know, so they can understand. Wow, sorry about that. That's so terrible. I bring it up because Arden has those symptoms or had those symptoms. And we've increased her intake of some specific vitamins that have done away with them in conjunction with getting her Arden doesn't use Synthroid, she uses to rescind. And we've been increasing that slowly getting to a better level. So we finally had a doctor who was willing to look and say that, you know, by weight ardens tiersen. Those doesn't seem strong enough, her number seems in range. But her symptoms say she doesn't have enough of the hormone. And so this doctor was willing to move it up a little bit and add a significant course of vitamin B 12. And a very specific one like she moved us to a very specific vitamin and also vitamin D increasing Arden's vitamin D intake significantly. So just little things like that, and we've been at it for a couple of months. Now she just did a retest there, the tiersen is going to get adjusted again and then we're gonna move on and see if you know how that helps. But are you experiencing mostly the tired just that feeling you can't get rested? That is that your biggest problem?

Esther 24:06
My biggest problem is depression, ah, with the thyroid,

Scott Benner 24:10
and that's another thing people don't realize that if you move that up too much that thyroid the way you can go from hypo to hyper how you can tell is you'll start getting like heart palpitations, you'll get you can get sad, anxiety start crying for no reason. Like there's a lot of stuff that happens with having too much of that of that hormone, which I think is can be why some doctors are you know, hesitant to do it. But it's so necessary or you could go to a T three and T four together. I can't think of a T three name off top my head now. Damn, I'll think of it and it's so depression. Do you feel like it's really connected to the to the hypothyroidism

Esther 24:57
we can I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and about Vitamin D deficiency when I was 13. So I've been, we've been dealing with it long enough that we can clearly link depressive episodes to a lack to when my thyroid numbers are not where they should be. Okay? Now, I

Scott Benner 25:13
believe that 100% you can't, nobody would be able to talk me out of believing that. And so what happens is your needs change. But it's difficult to change with the need, you don't notice the need changing until you have the symptom is that what is that the biggest problem?

Esther 25:30
It's difficult to describe the symptoms in a way to motivate the doctors to do something about it.

Scott Benner 25:37
Ah, ah, okay, so what what ends up happening is you just do you think they don't believe you? That it's related to that and they look back and they is your tea? Or your TSH? Did you say it was out of range or in range?

Unknown Speaker 25:54
Oh, it's out of range? lower high low, I

Scott Benner 25:56
would imagine. Hi. Hi. Okay. So you appear to have too much. You. You appear hypo?

Esther 26:04
I am hypothyroidism. The TSH is supposed to be between one and four minus 12.

Scott Benner 26:11
It's so what's the plan? Like what what's supposed to bring it into range?

Esther 26:16
the centroid supposedly, but it's not doing its job doesn't do that.

Unknown Speaker 26:20
Have you tried others?

Esther 26:23
No. But I'm hopeful that my new nurse practitioner in that I see for the first time in September, will finally you know, listen to me. And maybe we can switch something up. Try something new.

Scott Benner 26:37
Is the T for not being picked up by your system? Has anybody discussed that with you? Maybe I figured out the name of the T three. It's called psycho Mal. Maybe that's it. The tough part of it is is when you make adjustments, these medications, it really messes with you. If it's Yes,

Esther 26:53
it does. Yeah. And I already struggle with insulin resistance, hypoglycemia, unawareness, hyperglycemia, and awareness, hence the dog. So my, my, I, I'm over here, like, I tweak things all the time without talking to the doctor. I've been doing this for 20 years, I tweak things. But then when I need a change in prescription or change in dose or change in medication, then the battle comes of convincing the nurse practitioner to make those changes.

Scott Benner 27:24
And it's not as easy as saying, Look, I'm doing it and it's working. I just need the medicine.

Esther 27:28
Right. It's kind of like I will tell you something my previous nurse practitioner, we had one big disagreement point. And that was your podcast. Oh,

Unknown Speaker 27:39
that's a shame. He doesn't like it. And I have lost

Scott Benner 27:43
the listener. Terrible.

Esther 27:45
I the first day I the first time I asked her Hey, have you heard of the Juicebox Podcast? She looked at me and she said yes.

Unknown Speaker 27:53
She didn't like it. That's good. I was like,

Unknown Speaker 27:55
oh, okay, then

Scott Benner 27:57
she's still listening. I'm saying it right now. That's all that's fine. hyperthyroidism definitely comes with insulin resistance when you have too much, you know, going on it definitely makes it I've seen that while we're adjusting artists medications. If she gets hyper during the medication adjustment, her needs for insulin go up pretty pretty drastically pretty immediately.

Esther 28:23
Yeah. My my second biggest symptom that I deal with with the hypothyroidism is my inability to lose weight. My not my blood sugar's could be perfect. I could be exercising, eating great. And I can't lose weight. I don't gain weight either. Yeah, it's it's just stuck, stuck.

Scott Benner 28:43
Well, that definitely, to me says your hypo. Right. So why, you know, you gotta I mean, I know it's easy to say like, you got to find a doctor that can help you but there just aren't that many of them that are willing to think outside of and be and I think you're, you're saying something that's incredibly important. It's that being flexible around care, and being willing to make a small adjustment. Look, again, make another small adjustment you know, being willing to do blood tests more frequently to see where the medications putting you and not just trying something and waiting six months or whatever and then and then going back anyone how do you feel like you know, I'm

Esther 29:20
also a very impatient person when it comes to my health I I make an adjustment and the next day I'm like, okay, is it better? But I have to slow down cuz you gotta see what the change does before you can change something else. Oh, yeah,

Scott Benner 29:35
this medicine is I think weeks and weeks to be sure like you have to you have to choose and go and stick with it and see what happens. You can't You can't three days and go it's not working. I'm going to take more like that definitely don't work. Yeah. Wow. I'm sorry. It really is. It's not fun. Do any of your siblings have better luck with it than you are having?

Esther 29:58
Um, so none of my other friends siblings see an endocrinologist. Um, I'm the only one because of diabetes. So there's, as the rest of my family handle their thyroid, basically seeing the primary doctor, getting the blood test every three months, I'm adjusting the medication as needed and go on their merry way. But because I have the jackpot of both, I get to work with endocrinologist team,

Scott Benner 30:29
what are they doing better? Like? Are they having better outcomes than you are? Or no, not necessarily?

Esther 30:34
Well, it's different outcomes, because the hypo and the diabetes work against each other. And the other people in my family have, they either just have hypothyroidism or hyperthyroidism and something else other than type one diabetes, so their care is obviously going to look a lot different. And they're everyone else's numbers are good. Everyone else is great.

Scott Benner 31:00
How about how they feel? Or they keep weight off and things like that? Or are they in similar situation with that?

Esther 31:07
Um, I mean, we're we're basically Vikings. We're tall, broad people. But yeah, my siblings with hypothyroidism don't have as much trouble with weight fluctuation as I do. Gotcha.

Scott Benner 31:21
Okay. Well, and and, and so they don't need as much adjustment either. It's not they're not struggling to begin with. It's just working out better for them. Yeah, interesting. Yeah, that whole,

Esther 31:33
they're generally focused on the hammer collegiate migraines. So

Scott Benner 31:39
they've got a different problem

Esther 31:41
than they do we all have our issues. Oh,

Scott Benner 31:44
my gosh, wow. Your whole bloodline needs to be out in the sun more often, I think or something like that. You guys needed some vitamin D. When you were growing me. You said is what is your background? Like? Where do your parents? Where's the lineage? Run? I guess.

Esther 32:02
I'm on my dad's side is just a European and Cherokee. I'm just American. And my mom's side is mostly Irish.

Scott Benner 32:13
Yeah, that Irish is tough. It's tough on the auto immune for some reason. I don't know if everyone's noticed that or not. Yeah, the real pale people struggle with some stuff for some reason. And we've talked about stuff on the podcast before, you know, just the idea of like the potato famine, being really impactful on Irish people.

Esther 32:33
And I've heard you talk about that. And I literally, like it blew my mind.

Scott Benner 32:39
Well, you don't talk too much. Because you know, it's just a podcast, but it is definitely something I've heard about a couple of times and looked at once or twice.

Esther 32:47
I think it should warrant more like in depth study. Not by me. I don't have that.

Scott Benner 32:55
Someone besides me should look at it. I just know that there are a fair amount of people who I've met with autoimmune issues. hypo thyroid to be you know, be specific, who will tell you that they have you know, a pretty, a pretty strong Irish, you know, or that part of the world. background. And right. I don't know, is what it is, I guess, but all right. Well, let's find some good news in here somewhere. How do you find the service dog is is? Is it a good

Esther 33:29
Enzo? Um, so senior year of high school, found out about diabetic alert dog started researching kind of ignored the fact that my parents didn't really put a lot of effort into it. I'm pretty stubborn like that. And I spent three years researching, watching YouTube videos, reading articles, getting any piece of information I could get my hands on about diabetic alert dogs and service dogs. Almost got scammed out of $25,000. But I went to a religious conference, where we ran into a family with a service poodle, they gave me some information. And a year and two months later, Renzo came home. Wow.

Scott Benner 34:13
Service poodles. A great pairing of words, in case you're wondering, but I want to hear a little bit about how did you almost get scammed out of money because this is a pretty prevalent problem, isn't it with service dogs,

Esther 34:24
right. So in in the United States, dogs, service dogs, it's not a regulated industry. And there's a lot of misinformation going around. So I will not name the organization. But there was there's a prevalent service dog training organization that was placing dogs before they were actually trained. People were paying 25 plus $1,000 to this organization. And what people were getting back was an unruly untrained puppy.

Scott Benner 34:56
Wow, that's so you got a pattern. gotta feed it that and everything else. And it's right. It's costing you money, no problem.

Esther 35:05
I got I contacted the organization, thinking they were legitimate, and I was approved, and they wanted me to start fundraising the $25,000. And as I was starting the fundraising process through the company, they got sued. So, a miss, dodged that bullet, thankfully. And I actually got an even better trained dog for a fraction of the cost from a local company to me, gotcha.

Scott Benner 35:35
What did you end up paying for the dog? If I can ask you just so people can have an idea of what it really should cost?

Esther 35:41
$8,750 for a dog who has public access trained, obedience trained could detect high and low blood sugars responds to fainting episodes and retrieved at General items. Wow.

Scott Benner 35:53
Can they bring you like a remote control? Where's that above and beyond? Well, the dog look at you and be like, that's not my job, or

Esther 35:59
no, dogs aren't robots. never stops, service dogs are not a finished product. Honestly, that's how a lot of program dogs end up failing, once they're placed with their family, because the family won't keep training. And the service dogs aren't a finished product, they don't come out of training, and poof, they're perfect for the rest of their lives.

Scott Benner 36:19
It's interesting how much time in a month that you give to continued education for the dog.

Esther 36:25
So rienzo's, each dog is different, but my dog, we do tend to minute 10 to 30 minute training sessions a couple times a week, I try to make sure we go out into a public place so we can maintain manners. A few, like at least three times a week, but um, you can it's just a matter of consistency, honestly.

Scott Benner 36:49
Wow. That's, that's interesting. I hadn't considered that that there's upkeep, basically maintenance, you have to do yes, to keep it going.

Esther 36:57
I've also added on to his training. At this point, we've been together for a year and a half and two thirds of what he knows as far as commands and tasks I taught him.

Scott Benner 37:08
It's like when you buy a Tesla, and then you want it to drive itself and you give him like another $4,000 and they add it to it. They just upload it to the car. You just continuing to upload things to the car. That's really cool. Like what do you have goals for the dog that franza that he that he hasn't reached out that you're working towards?

Esther 37:25
Yes. So recently, just when we went into quarantine a few months ago, I registered Renzo with the American Kennel Club because he has a purebred Standard Poodle, and he just passed and received his novice trick dog title. There's five levels of trick dog titles. I hope that we can get all of them. I also want to get his Canine Good Citizen certification through the A Casey. I have big plans for my dog.

Scott Benner 37:52
Wow. What can he then? Sire other dogs? That would be good service dogs or is there no correlation? Oh, I got you. You don't want him wandering off looking for a girl? Oh, well. Oh, wait, no, wait, I'm joking. But is that a real thing? Like do is is a service dog always spayed? or neutered or no,

Esther 38:13
no, it's up to the owner. Except I went through a program and the program requires all of their dogs to be fixed before placement. So he was neutered long before he was even matched with me.

Scott Benner 38:23
I gotcha. Okay, well, that's interesting. Well, then he's definitely not gonna do that. Or where he'd be amazing if he did?

Esther 38:31
No, he's not up to standards, so he wouldn't be a sire anyway.

Scott Benner 38:35
Oh, really? Like, is there? Am I using this word with quotes, but are there imperfections about him that would stop that from happening?

Esther 38:42
Yes. So he's only 26 inches at the shoulder, which is within standard AK standard for the breed. But he only weighs about 50 pounds. He's a very lanky boy. He's also a party poodle, which means he's black and white and the A Casey doesn't actually recognize the multicolored poodles. So that's actually why he got donated to the service dog program because he was he came from a show line and it can't be a show dog. So he became a service dog.

Scott Benner 39:07
No kidding. That's super interesting. You just use the a lot of terms I've never heard before. lanky boy and party poodle party poodle, strong contender for the name of this episode, in case you're wondering, but I am afraid to Google either of those terms. Because

Unknown Speaker 39:26
it is my term okay.

Unknown Speaker 39:28
But party poodle is not right.

Esther 39:31
Party pa RT refers to the coloring of his coat. You can have solid coded poodles, party, poodles, Phantom poodles,

Scott Benner 39:42
I don't even know all of them. Well, you can safely Google just for the I would keep the lie off of it, just in case. I'm not sure where the internet will take you then. Actually it just redirects you back to p. e AR ti. Well, that's really cool. Like there's so much about this that obviously, I don't know about And it's a lot to consider. How much time do you give to, to Enzo? I mean, at what point I can ask a thoughtful question here. At what point? Is Enzo, a family member? And at what point? Is he a tool? Or do you not consider him a tool? like, Okay, you know what I mean? Like there's a, I'm trying to understand how that feels.

Esther 40:23
Yes. And I will. I'm so glad to answer this question, because it's a question I get a lot. So Renzo is a dog. He still has the basic needs of a dog, he needs stimulus, he needs exercise, he needs affection. When the vest is on, and we're in public, he's working, which means he's ignoring his surroundings, and he's ignoring other people. And he's focusing just on me, when we're at home, and the vest is off, you know, he will roam around the house, he will play with dog toys, he'll play with the other dogs, he'll cuddle with everyone in the family, he'll harass my pet rabbit. But if he smells, my blood sugar, doing weird things, he will find me in the house and still alert. So he'll still do his job, whether he is quote, on duty, or at home. He like the whole reason I have him is that he's a tool in my diabetes management toolbox.

Scott Benner 41:16
So I mean, this really seriously like so that the vest that he wears, is that an indicator to him that he's, I mean, on duty for? Or will he'll, he'll just do it no matter what, like, he doesn't have to go find the vest if he smells your blood sugar low. But

Esther 41:29
no, no, that's so he can I can literally commit, like, give him a word. And he's like, oh, we're working now. But when I put the vest on, and I'm like, do you want to, like, let's gear up, that's the word I use. He knows that we're going to be in public, that's really his key to be behaved, because the service started in public needs to be out of the way and unnoticed.

Scott Benner 41:53
Gotcha. Okay. I understand. By the way, there's a great movie in this where the dogs can talk to each other. And like, you know, they're on the job. And they take it really seriously almost like, What am I thinking of Secret Service agents, except for service dogs. there's a there's a kid's movie in there, someone can write it. I'm just telling you. I think it would be amazing if talking dogs came home from work at the end of the day. And we're taking off the rest and like they talking about their long days and everything like that. I would be very

Unknown Speaker 42:19
nice. Really cute.

Scott Benner 42:21
Thank you.

Unknown Speaker 42:22
Like I could Yeah, I just,

Scott Benner 42:23
as you said like wearing the vest. I saw the vest as the uniform. And anyway, I don't have time for that one. So anybody can feel free to pick up and run with that. I'll take a writing credit at the end. It's not a big deal. That that's really interesting. It made your life better.

Esther 42:40
Oh, yeah, my, my agency dropped in the first few months after having Renzo his alerts are on point he alerts at ADM, below 190 and above. And if it's quickly rising or falling, his his nose is rarely ever wrong. And sometimes he catches it before my Libra or my meter. Like he'll alert and it looks like he is like wrong. But actually 15 minutes later, I'm either spiking or crashing. Did you

Scott Benner 43:07
give samples during his training? Or did they can they use anyone samples?

Esther 43:12
So I had to mail saliva samples of in range high and low to the trainer to use. But what's ironic is that renza his trainer was hypoglycemic, and renzoni nose is so sensitive that he has alerted like half a dozen other people other than me.

Scott Benner 43:33
Oh, no kidding. Like, somebody can just walk by with some low blood sugar and they'll be like, and I was like, Yo, what's up your low? And how does he tell you your low? I mean, sign language. What's he do?

Esther 43:42
He will pour me if it's an emergency, like rising or falling quickly, he will jump up on me. And if I'm having brain fog, and I'm just not getting it. He will bark at me.

Scott Benner 43:55
By the way, I feel like you just explained how married guys ask for sex. Dude. go through it again. He'll Paul you have it right. It goes say to get

Esther 44:06
regular alerts as a PA that has popped up on my leg. I hear it. If it's an emergency, he'll jump up on me.

Unknown Speaker 44:13
Huh? I was

Esther 44:15
not getting it. he barks at me

Scott Benner 44:17
telling you right now you just described that. Oh my goodness. While you trust me. It's not that funny. If you've been married for a while. Sorry. Oh my gosh. We know each other. Yeah. And and it was really great to meet you the time I did. tell people where we met.

Esther 44:37
We were we met at the Kansas City jdrf type one nation summit.

Unknown Speaker 44:44
We did and where

Esther 44:45
you were exhausted.

Scott Benner 44:46
I was and how good was I told the people?

Esther 44:50
Oh, you were fantastic. It made me feel special because you knew exactly who I was when I walked up was a dead giveaway.

Scott Benner 44:57
Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you for sure. Fisher that the poodle did give it away. But I appreciate you saying how fantastic it was without being prompted, I want to say about Kansas City, I had never been before, and got in the day before and went and got some lunch and had these chicken wings. That really made me happy. I just never had chicken wings to make me that happy before. And I went and did the whole the whole thing the next day. I actually have to thank people right here. Because later that night, you know, the people who brought me out from the jdrf chapter there in Kansas City, were just like, yo, let us take you to dinner and I, I get a little like, I'm like, I'm just gonna go home, like, let me just sleep and get back on the plane and get out of here, you know? But I said, No, no, that'd be great. Let me go. So they took me to this place. And as we're approaching it in the car, I think I'm gonna get off like I'm getting shot like this is it this is this is a hit, because we're like in some industrial park and the window was down a little bit and it smelled a little like cow manure. And I was like, what is happening right now? Where's our rail yard going behind? I'm like, where are we like, this is definitely like they're gonna, they're gonna pop me this is what's going on here. I don't know what I did wrong. But I've upset the Kansas City mafia, obviously. And this is what's happening. So we pull up, and I say to the person driving me, I'm like, I gotta ask you like, Where the hell are we like, you smell the Commodore? Right? Like, this is the restaurant that's not the restaurant. I'm smelling, isn't it? And she's like, no, no. And she points to this building said there's a rail yard nearby. And these shipments come in sometimes. So it smells like this once in a while. I'm like, Okay, you got to like, understand, I'd never been there before. So I'm just like, whatever. She points to this building that really is just a nondescript square, you know, building. And she's like, this is the restaurant. And then I went in and had maybe the best barbecue I've ever had in my entire life.

Esther 46:50
Yep, that's Kansas City in a nutshell, is

Scott Benner 46:52
that what I just ate and it was so good that I came home. And when the Coronavirus thing started, I spent time learning about how to make barbecue because I realized

Esther 47:03
that Kansas City barbecue is the best. Well, I

Scott Benner 47:06
don't know if I realized that what I realized was that my entire life, I didn't like ribs. And then I had ribs in Kansas City and realized that nobody had ever prepared them correctly for me. Yep. And now I know how to make them myself. And I love ribs. ribs are good. That's fantastic. Yeah, so had I not come? I would never have had that experience missing out. I seriously would have been. I'm not joking with you. I made some great ribs the other day.

Esther 47:32
I gotta tell you though, something very funny happened at that event where we met during the break between your the the other woman who spoke and your that

Unknown Speaker 47:45
I wait other people speak while I was there. I did realize that.

Unknown Speaker 47:50
The jdrf lady? Oh, yeah, I

Scott Benner 47:51
didn't know. I only hear myself. I'm just kidding. Yeah, I bet. I didn't other other people there but God.

Esther 47:59
But I went to ask a question at the jdrf table. And they had to go find somebody to get my question answered. And so I was standing there with renzoni by the jdrf. table, and a line formed. And this couple came up and started asking me about Renzo and diabetic alert dogs. And I was happy to answer all their questions. It's something I'm very passionate about. And then they were like, thank you. And they went away and another person came up a line formed people thought I was a rep there to talk about diabetic alert dogs.

Scott Benner 48:36
weird feeling, isn't it? When it is? Yeah, trust me, I I hear you. It seems like from the outside, it would just be like, Oh, it's nice, so many people, but it's hard to like wrap your head around when it happens. I had trouble getting through the that area you're discussing to go back and be private somewhere and just eat something for a second because I would take a step and it was really trust me, please. It was very nice and not necessary. But people wanted to say thank you or they want to take a picture or something like that. I would chat with him for a little while. And then I would turn and think now I'm going to go get my lunch and take one more step and somebody would go Hey, and I'm like, Okay, I'm never getting out of the spot right here. Am I so I just kind of put my back to the wall and like just was like alright, everybody, let's let's go come on over. Well, you know, we'll do it at the same time. is it's very, it's very nice. It's just overwhelming if it's never happened to you before.

Unknown Speaker 49:30
shopping with a service dog.

Scott Benner 49:32
Everybody has a question. Yes. Is that the biggest issue with a service dog is keeping people from touching?

Unknown Speaker 49:38
Um,

Scott Benner 49:40
in public, I guess.

Esther 49:42
I can't say for certain what the biggest problem is. However, it is very common. Like I would say that people with service dogs don't go to the grocery store on the weekend because they want to avoid people because you take a few steps and then then it's Oh cute doggy. Oh, my pet. What's wrong with you? Oh, are you a trainer? Oh, how do I sign up for one? Like, it's not so much the touching as the overwhelming intrusion. I'm just trying to shop for peanut butter. Like, and I'm really passionate about the topic, I could talk about it for hours. But if I'm having a bad blood sugar day, and I am just out of it, and I just want to get through the grocery store, and a dozen people stopped me to ask to pet my dog or ask me questions. I don't want to be rude.

Scott Benner 50:34
He had spent an hour and a half at the grocery store either, right? No, I, it makes sense to me. Because everyone is just having their own personal response. They don't recognize that someone just asked you for seconds before and then when they walk away, he's gonna do it.

Esther 50:48
I remind myself of that every day. Yeah, each person who asks me to pet my poodle, who I think is a unicorn sometimes, because of people's reactions, they don't realize that they're the 30th person asking that day, they just see a cute dog and they want to pet it.

Scott Benner 51:06
Pet my poodle should be a T shirt. Kiss your honor. I think I just did some music. And I liked the idea of those words all together. Well, no, I hear you. And it's it. You know, it really does make sense on both sides. You You don't you don't have that time. And they don't have that knowledge and too bad mix. Right? So you're just trying to avoid Listen, I think we all try to avoid going to the grocery store when it's too busy. know for certain. Okay, let's see. How about your outcomes? Have your outcomes with your agencies and variability and stuff like that improved with a service dog?

Esther 51:43
Yes, my variability has really improved, my agency is still like, I have an 8.6. And the insulin resistance and the hypothyroid situation I think are contributing to that. However, I didn't even know what variability was until I heard it on the podcast. And so I've been really focusing on that. And renjo really helps with it. In fact, the original trainer taught him to alert above 200 and below 70. And I actually retrained him to do 190 and 80. Because I wanted to know if it was going up before it got to the two hundreds, my range is 80 to 135. That's where I want to be. But if my dog alerted to my specific range, she'd be alerting all but he'd be alert alerting a lot more than I would need him to. Because really, he's there to prevent emergencies. What do you think is holding you back from having the one see that you're

Scott Benner 52:44
looking for?

Unknown Speaker 52:46
Um, well,

Esther 52:50
I would like the short answer would be insulin resistance. The long answer is, I was I've been switching back and forth between the pump and pens to figure out what I liked better. And I really think I like the pins. And you know, going back and forth isn't the greatest thing to do for your body. Don't follow my example. But I finally because I was listening to your podcast, and I was translating everything you were saying to the pins. Once I went back on the pump, I felt like I was relearning it all over again. Okay. Well, I went back to the pro tips and everything. And I just personally feel more comfortable on pens.

Scott Benner 53:27
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that for certain I just was wondering if, because you're you're paying a lot of attention. And and you're, you know, you know, when you're high and when you're low from different technologies and from from Renzo. And I just wondered that you think it's the insulin resistance and that might stem back to the to the thyroid? Yeah. I just I don't want

Esther 53:50
it to be under control so badly. Yeah.

Scott Benner 53:53
I don't think enough people appreciate the impact of thyroid when it's not working correctly.

Esther 53:58
I did it for a long time. Yeah. I was diagnosed when I was a teenager. What did I know? I just took the pill and everything was hunky dory. It's not

Scott Benner 54:05
Yeah, it's, it can work well for people or not. And when it doesn't work well, it's it's not normally an easy fix. And, like you said, it's a slow, it's slow going to make adjustments.

Esther 54:17
And it has to build up in your system. It

Scott Benner 54:19
has a half life, and you don't always guess right the first time so you could you know, make an adjustment, wait a month, you know, do another blood test and find out what didn't do it. You know, and and, you know, I still don't feel any differently. And then you have to just back the other way. It's a it's a long game, and you have to see the value in it or I think it's possible that you just lose sight of wanting to play that game. And you really if you have a thyroid issue, and you're having any of the thyroid symptoms, your medications not right. And isn't Yeah, and it would be incredibly beneficial if you put some put put the effort that was needed into getting it fixed. And part of that effort. might end up being finding a doctor who isn't so cookie cutter when it comes to fine.

Esther 55:06
I will say I liked my nurse practitioner, she did a lot for me, she filled out the paperwork for my dog, she got me on libri. She got me on Omnipod the first time around. But we disagreed on some big things like dawn phenomenon, I told her, we need to address this, we need to adjust the high blood sugars in the morning because I can't function at my job with the high blood sugars in the morning. And yet, she said, Oh, it's fine. If you're high in the morning, just take a correction. I'm more worried about the 5% of lows you're having. And so we really butt heads on that. Yeah. And so even though I liked her, I'm not incredibly sorry to see her go. I'm excited to work with someone new, clean slate. That was the longest I've ever had one. Doctor for anything. I had her for four years.

Scott Benner 55:57
Yeah. And you're and you're butting heads on a pretty big issue. Because Yeah, because there's a way to not wake up high and not have a bunch of lows. It's Yeah, it's not a zero sum game. You don't have to pick between them. You know,

Esther 56:11
that's what I was saying. I was like, can we address both, but the only way she wanted to address the highest was with a correction. And I think that's where the disconnect between endocrinologist who live with type one. And endocrinologist who don't is because she doesn't understand what it does to us. Like, you can tell I'm sure with Arden, if she wakes up in range, she's awesome. And if she wakes up high, she's probably a little more snarky and sluggish.

Scott Benner 56:38
It's a big difference in how you feel. Yeah, and in some ways that determines how our mornings go, how we treat people, how we perform at our jobs or in school. And it's a big deal. It could be it could also impact the decision you make about food first thing in the morning, by the way, and then lead you down a bad road. Like if you're if you're feeling like none of this matters. And you you know you don't you don't have the energy to cook the meal that you normally would. So you grab something, it's easier. And your blood sugar goes out. And it just you know snowballs from there. And you can't get back. Yeah, no, I know. I'm sorry for you. I'm glad you're switching. But well, I hope I can find some better answers and share them on the podcast through this journey with Arden. Hopefully it'll come together. sooner than later. I actually have asked the doctor if when this is done if she would come on the show. And I'm hoping she will because she's just thinks about it in a different way, which I find to be really helpful.

Esther 57:36
That would be really interesting. Yeah,

Scott Benner 57:38
I hope so. I hope I can work that out. Actually.

Esther 57:41
You think Arden's getting older? Do you think Arden will ever be on the show?

Scott Benner 57:45
Yeah, sometimes I think she will be. And sometimes I think she won't be

Esther 57:49
like a teenager to me. So no.

Scott Benner 57:52
I asked her once in a while. And once in a while she acts like she might. And then sometimes she says she won't. And I figured it'll happen or it won't happen. At some point. There's definitely things I'd love to talk to her about on the podcast. And so I hope she comes on it just for her. I mean, you guys might find that interesting, but I would I want to do it, you know, for her?

Esther 58:10
Well, I think I mean, I respect artists choice. But being someone who grew up as a type one diabetic child, adolescent teenager, not having the support network or community that I have now through the internet. Like, I didn't know anyone like me. I didn't know there were blogs out there or podcasts out there. Yeah. And being able to connect with people who are going through the same thing, I think would have changed a lot of how I went through my teenage years with Type One Diabetes. I agree

Scott Benner 58:49
with you. You spend some time on Instagram, right? sharing some stuff about your life. tell people what your Instagram handle is.

Esther 58:57
Oh, yeah. On Instagram, I am chronically underscore annoyed on tik tok. I am chronically annoyed. And on YouTube, I am chronically annoyed s d team.

Scott Benner 59:08
Nice. Although I read this morning that this tech talk is bad. And so I will find you the article says it's on board panda.com and it says I am a nerd who figured out how who figures out how apps work for a living. I've reverse engineered tik tok. It's scary stay away from it. Like that's interesting. So anyway, I'll share that written a place where you can find it too. I thought that was really something because it is incredibly popular. But no i to your to your point about you know, being there online so somebody else can see it. I mean, obviously I'm a big believer in that or the podcast wouldn't exist so

Esther 59:49
Oh, yeah. I I got on Instagram, I don't know in 2018 to to find the Type One Diabetes community and and to build Build a support system. Never did, I think I would have 1000s of followers looking to me for advice on any social media platform, and I don't give advice. I just share my experiences, and maybe some dumb jokes along the way. But the community that exists online is amazing. And I first got into it by downloading bianche type one. That was That was my first introduction to an online Type One Diabetes community. And it was amazing.

Scott Benner 1:00:33
I agree. And they had What did they have? Like? Almost like a message board? I guess? Is that how you would describe it?

Esther 1:00:41
It's similar to Twitter. I guess it is a message board where you can follow different topics and make posts, but it's all for type one diabetics or friends and family of type one diabetics.

Scott Benner 1:00:54
Nice. Is that still running? Oh, yeah, yeah.

Esther 1:00:59
It's had multiple updates. I still have that I'm not very active on it. But I've met some really cool people through beyond type one. I even got to meet up with another type one diabetic I met on the app in Denver A few years ago, and we went to an amusement park together, where we ran into another type one diabetic.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:21
So that was fun. Mm hmm.

Scott Benner 1:01:25
What do you get out of like, on your side of it from meeting those people? Like you said, you didn't know anybody like you what happens when you do all of a sudden, no, somebody like you?

Esther 1:01:34
Well, it, I wouldn't say it backfired. But it, it didn't turn out the way I thought it would. Because I went through the diabetes journey a lot differently than other people. I found that I had a lot of insight that others were lacking. So instead of gaining encouragement, I ended up giving it because I I've been doing this for so long on my own. That I found that I had a lot of stuff to give, but I still gained, I still gain information. I gained friends. And I just think it's very wholesome, the way we can share experiences and information.

Scott Benner 1:02:21
I agree with you. I really do. I think it's a it's a wonderful platform, especially for people who are distanced and don't have connection. And who really does. I mean, honestly, a lot of people have type one diabetes, but you know, still there's not that many to where you're always gonna know, three and four people with it. And you're gonna find them, you know,

Esther 1:02:41
and, you know, as a kid, I, by the time I was 10 years old, I had spent half of my life in Europe. So, I really didn't know a lot of people like me. There weren't there were no jdrf events to go to, or, you know, diabetes camps to be to go to it was just me and mom.

Scott Benner 1:03:03
What other places have you lived?

Esther 1:03:06
Oh, this is a fun one. Let's see. I was born in Texas. And then we moved to Arkansas where I was diagnosed, and then we went to North Yorkshire and we lived in Menwith Hill, England. And then we moved to Alabama. Then we went to Kaiserslautern, Germany. Back to Arkansas for another deployment. Back to Alabama, then off to Colorado, then we were in Virginia for a while and now, I have been living in Missouri for the past five years.

Scott Benner 1:03:40
I think I'm just impressed that you said them on order, which I'm assuming they were in order, but yes. Do you speak any other languages like German or British?

Unknown Speaker 1:03:48
I speak sarcasm.

Scott Benner 1:03:52
Me too. That's the only one I have

Esther 1:03:54
to speak type one diabetes in service dog handler. Know, out of out of my my family. Some a lot of people in my family speak languages. A lot of people in my family play instruments are very musical. I'm a visual arts person. I actually hold an associate's degree in Visual Arts and an associate's degree in business. But I'm taking a break from college right now. And I'm a teacher. Cool, what

Unknown Speaker 1:04:22
do you teach?

Esther 1:04:24
I teach public speaking, digital literacy. And this coming year, I will also be teaching art and running the library.

Scott Benner 1:04:32
Wow, look at it. Good for you. That's excellent. And Renzo comes to work with you. Obviously,

Esther 1:04:37
yes. Renzo loves coming to work with me because he loves children. Well, honestly, both both my dog and my students respect each other. And it's hard for them to have self control sometimes, but they respect the fact that he's there for a reason. And the reason is not for them to love on him.

Scott Benner 1:04:57
How old are the kids you normally teach?

Esther 1:05:00
Third through eighth grade. Oh wait this year I'm also going to be teaching high school.

Scott Benner 1:05:04
Wow. That's really cool. Good for you. That's excellent. Yeah, I think big just the government must have put you guys in in country and left you here just to stop having to cart all of you around the globe. It was probably get expensive.

Esther 1:05:20
My father retired in 2015. But yeah, it um, yeah, there's a lot of us. Okay, how

Scott Benner 1:05:27
long was he in total Dino?

Unknown Speaker 1:05:29
Oh, I

Esther 1:05:32
okay. But here's the thing. He was in the army first. And then he got out of the army. And then he was National Guard. And then he got into the Air Force. So I have no idea. Wow. No, that was all before I was born. A lot of serving.

Scott Benner 1:05:43
Yeah, no kidding. That's, uh, that's interesting. Did you prefer living overseas to here or vice versa? Do you have any?

Esther 1:05:50
I would? Well, here's the thing. I lived overseas when I was a child, the last time I was out of country, I was 13. I would have a much different perspective now as a young adult than I did as a child as a kid. It was pretty stinking cool. Yeah, I would imagine. I hear that. A lot of places. I've been to Italy. I've been to Austria, Ireland, France. lots lots of places.

Scott Benner 1:06:14
That's really cool. It was really it's a it's a rich experience, just to have as a little kid, you know? Yes. No kidding. Well, listen, I we've done this for an hour. I really appreciate you being on and And is there anything we didn't get through that you wanted to? I don't want to skip anything.

Esther 1:06:30
We talked a lot about hypothyroidism. Ironically. And Renzo? Do I answer all your questions about diabetic alert dogs? specifically?

Scott Benner 1:06:41
Yeah, no, I feel good about it. I think, you know, if I'm speaking from an outsider's perspective, I believe that a diabetic alert dog for somebody who wants one is amazing. And I can also see how another person might see it as another responsibility that they don't have time for, like I can, I can see both both perspectives, you know, pretty evenly. But I think the biggest problem, excuse me is that I don't want to see people spend a lot of money for something that didn't need to cost that much money and won't help them, you know, because it ends up being a shakedown, is there any central location that they can go to make sure they're not being taken advantage of? Or is it? Is it location to location?

Esther 1:07:24
It's, it's knowing the red flags to look for when looking for a program. And that is something you learn through experience and research. Unfortunately, I talk a lot about it on Instagram and Tiktok. But to what you said, it's so true, any diabetic could make use of a dog but not every but not every diabetic needs one. I honestly didn't need one until I started experiencing hypoglycemia and hyperglycemia. And awareness. That's the whole reason I got the dog. Having a dog with you. 24. Seven is a lifestyle shift that not everybody can handle,

Scott Benner 1:07:57
right? No, I can't I can imagine that being true. Hey, what are some of the red flags that that would tell me this might not be a great organization?

Esther 1:08:06
If they won't answer certain questions, like training methodology? How old are the dogs when they get placed? How long? Does it take the dogs to be fully trained? Are they public access, ready, when they're placed? Or do they just know the alerts? How closely do they work with their clients? Or do they not give you updates and stuff like that? Do they want you to pay the whole amount upfront before they start training your dog? Or will they take a down payment and start working with your dog immediately? Those are those are the questions to ask. Those are the big red flags to look out for.

Scott Benner 1:08:46
Is it just true that nowhere should it cost $25,000.

Esther 1:08:50
Unfortunately, if you go to a nonprofit organization, you're gonna spend anywhere between 15 to 50,000. It's in there in high demand, low supply, it takes up to two years to fully train a service dog. A lot of people have waiting lists, I went through a program called canine specialty training, LLC is located in Independence, Missouri, it is not nonprofit, therefore, it's first come first serve. And that's how I got my dog so quickly. So it's really it's really worth it to try and look for small local training companies or organizations rather than going to a big nonprofit organization.

Scott Benner 1:09:39
Well, let me just put this out there. I'm not a doctor, and I have no training at all. But for $50,000 I will come live at your house. Teach your kid how to keep their blood sugar, right or you as an adult, I'll stay with you for I mean, 50 grand, let's be fair, two months, and we'll make sure you're okay before I go. And that's it. 50 grand. That's I'll definitely live in your house for $50,000. If I if I ever buy a $50,000 dog, I imagined that I will need some sort of like mental health help because I'm so cheap. I can't even imagine it just that that Fried my mind would just be like when you started at 15,000 I was like, oh my god 15 pounds. Oh,

Esther 1:10:20
my dog was considered cheap. No kidding. And I actually didn't have to pay for all of them because I got a grant that is specifically for type one diabetics to get a service dog through cosmopolitan International. Everyone can find it on their website. Okay, it is application based, though.

Scott Benner 1:10:37
cosmopolitan International. Okay, I just want to go over one more time again, for $50,000 there's very few things I won't do. In case you're wondering like, do you need me to come paint your house or? I don't know, do change the oil on your car. just name it. Honestly, I'm happy to come over, just let me know. I'm sure a lot of people would fall in line with that idea as well. That's an amazing amount of money. And I'm glad you're you've shared some of those things to stop people from spending if they don't need to.

Esther 1:11:04
Well, I spent years doing research and trial and error so I'm happy to be a shortcut for people and share what I've experienced. Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:11:13
yeah. Listen, go find her on Instagram if you need not, don't go on tik tok. Apparently, that's the place where? I don't know they're stealing all your something or other. I'm not 100% sure. But the article was very interesting. Yeah, cool. Listen, thank you for doing this. I really appreciate it.

Esther 1:11:28
You're so welcome. Thank you for having me on. I was looking forward to it for like eight months.

Scott Benner 1:11:34
Sorry about that. Mark. Did you did you do you have a good time? How'd we do?

Esther 1:11:38
Oh, I had a fantastic time. Cool. I could probably could never get bored of talking to you. I love your sense of humor. And I love the information you put out there for people.

Scott Benner 1:11:46
I really appreciate that. Thank your people for introducing me to good barbecue. I really do think that it really changed my life honestly, like I I smoked a pork butt the other day. That is there not words I thought I'd ever say out loud. Had I not gone to Kansas City to speak at that event. I never would have had that thought in my life. So

Esther 1:12:04
well. I hope to see you come back.

Scott Benner 1:12:06
I would love that. I had a great time. By the way. Interesting little city like it's if you come in from the east coast, and you've been in a big city before it's a very feels like a tiny place. But it's this. It's this neat feeling. Yeah, like you know,

Esther 1:12:20
I moved here from Yorktown, Virginia. It was complete culture shock.

Scott Benner 1:12:25
Yeah. But it's it was a lovely like a little a great place to walk around and enjoy. While I had that free time in the first day and I liked it a lot. I really did. I thought it was cool. And the airport was I've never stood in a security line so short my entire life at an airport. It was where did you come in on a little It was like a little roundy is like a semi circle. Am I making sense when I say that? Yeah, I

Esther 1:12:49
Kansas City International.

Scott Benner 1:12:51
Oh my god, I got right. So I asked people, you know, what time do I need to get back in the morning to the airport to fly out here. I don't want to be late, you know, and I'm flying out of here. I want to get to the airport somewhere about 90 minutes to two hours ahead of time. And so I'm asking what time to leave. And my flights I think at 9am flight. And someone says Well, we'll we could pick you up at the at the hotel at 815. And I was like, wait, no, like, Don't Don't do that. Like, are you sure. And they were so sure. And I didn't want to argue with anybody. So I argued a little bit and I got picked up at like 745 and eight o'clock I was at the airport. And at 809 I was through security and sitting at the gate and I thought oh my

Esther 1:13:35
god. It's amazing. And they're actually redoing the airport, I saw that they can make that process faster.

Scott Benner 1:13:43
I don't imagine they can. It was it was magical, honestly. Anyway, maybe one day we'll all fly again. And I'll come back. So Alright, I am going to I'm gonna go get some things done here and I appreciate your time very much. Thank you for taking the time to do this.

Esther 1:13:57
Thank you for having me. Have a great day. You too.

Scott Benner 1:14:02
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#429 Piggy Pancakes

Type 1 diabetes from a child's perspective

Jaden is eleven years old. In this episode he does an inspired job of describing life with type 1 diabetes.

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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends and welcome to Episode 429 of the Juicebox Podcast. Today's show is special. It's with my friend Jaden. Jaden is 11 years old. He's had Type One Diabetes for two years. And in that time, he's had to overcome a couple of different issues. Jaden does a remarkable job of sharing his story, and articulating his feelings. I hope you enjoy listening to our conversation as much as I enjoyed having it.

Today's show is with an 11 year old Jaden and Jaden wanted to come on the podcast after he heard Jonathan on episode 384, after dark bipolar, Jaden has had some issues with depression. And he's had Type One Diabetes for two years. He came on the show today to try to help other people. And he did a magnificent job. Some of you are probably skeptical of guests that are very young. But I implore you to listen to Jaden does a great job of explaining his situation. And even towards the end of the episode has some revelations. It's incredibly worth your time.

Please remember while you're listening that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. Please always consult a physician before making any changes to your healthcare plan or becoming bold with insulin.

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Jaden, how old are you? 1111 Wow, I don't think you're the are you the youngest person maybe to ever be on the show? I'll have to figure that out. I'm not certain you might be. How old were you when you got type one diabetes?

Unknown Speaker 3:35
Nine, nine.

Scott Benner 3:37
So you've been doing this for a couple of years? Yeah. How's it going so far?

Unknown Speaker 3:42
Um, no,

Jaden 3:44
I don't like and it frustrates me and stuff. But, um, before, I wasn't taking very good care of it. But now I'm trying to do better since I heard that. I was going to be on this. And I was trying to do better before but it just always frustrated me. And I've tried to basically as my mom would say, I tried to over come in I tried to like kick its butt and tell Oh, I I tried to like tell it that I'm better.

Scott Benner 4:24
So were you trying to overpower diabetes without taking care of it?

Jaden 4:29
Yes. And I would like sneak snacks and stuff. But I'm now I'm like taking better care of myself and stuff. That's really good news.

Scott Benner 4:40
Well, let's find out a little bit about that stuff before you know when you were a young man of nine. So you get type one diabetes and your How was it explained to you or what's your understanding of it when you get it? Do you remember?

Unknown Speaker 4:56
Oh, wow,

Jaden 4:58
I had to stay in the house. hospital for two weeks and a day. I, I originally went into the hospital because I got hit in the head with a basketball play in a basketball game. And so I just had a really bad headache. And I went to the hospital and I will well that that day I woke up with a red eye and it was also a it was also puffy. So So my parents took me to the hospital, and they said, I had mersa. And then it was like, they said, I had mersa and orbital cellulitis. And it was like, inside and behind my eye. Wow. Yeah. And then, so they

Unknown Speaker 6:00
ended up

Jaden 6:04
like, I still wasn't doing good and stuff. So like one night. I just started wetting the bed bed really bad, which I would like, never really did. And my mom told them to test me and they tested me for like strep throat and stuff. And everything that it really couldn't be. And so

Unknown Speaker 6:33
we told them to

Jaden 6:36
my mom told them to test me for anything else, and they tested me for diabetes. Then it came back, like 500 or something. Yeah, my sugar was like 500. And I just like my mom was outside crying in the hall. And I'm like, go ahead, tell me. And she told me and I started crying. And then

Unknown Speaker 7:04
yeah,

Jaden 7:06
I just cried a bunch. And I just felt like life suck, did everything. And my sister. She came some of the days and so did my dad and my mom. And then I got a bunch of letters from the kids at school. And that kind of made me Cheer up, um, and the people from our church, and, um,

Scott Benner 7:36
she got a lot of support from people and that that definitely helped you feel better.

Jaden 7:40
Yeah. And then there was one lady that was there at the hospital and she was my favorite and all of them. And she played games with me like that. We had a we in there that the hospital supported. I think we had a Wii and the Xbox and a ps4. But my sister didn't get an Xbox till, like, last year. So I didn't know like how to play on the Xbox and stuff. And I didn't really like it. So that crossed out the Xbox and I don't like ps4. So I just played on the week because we have one and Jaden, it's funny, isn't it? You weed in the bed and then you got to play we in the hospital. Exactly, exactly. Right.

Scott Benner 8:29
So was the cellulitis in your I know that you were really little when this happened? But was that a function or part of having undiagnosed diabetes? Did they say Do you remember?

Unknown Speaker 8:40
exactly sure.

Scott Benner 8:41
Okay. I'm not either. So. I mean, I just made a p joke. And I'm 50 so I don't really know a lot about medicine. But okay, so you got to the hospital, they found a number of different issues. That's probably why you were there for so long that the diabetes part of it, but they're also helping you with the cellulitis and that you got hit with the basketball. Did you have a concussion by any chance?

Unknown Speaker 9:04
I think so.

Scott Benner 9:05
What have you learned from this? You gotta keep your hands up and you're playing basketball, right?

Unknown Speaker 9:09
Yeah.

Jaden 9:10
What happened is actually I don't think I had a concussion but

Unknown Speaker 9:15
what happened was

Jaden 9:18
my friend was making well so right before that happened, I lead like a very long shot. It was like the middle or second to middle on the on the other team side, and I shot it and I made it and then my friend tried to do same thing. And I was like talking to one of my ever friends cuz I didn't hear the whistle blow yet like it was well, it was after the game but my friend was making shy and me and my friend were talking about stuff and then my friend shot the ball and hit me in the head. he mistook

Scott Benner 10:04
your head for the hoop. You think I guess your head look like a basketball hoop,

Jaden 10:09
but he's, I don't know, but he was pretty bad at he's pretty bad at basketball. And

Unknown Speaker 10:18
he always, yeah, he

Jaden 10:20
always tries to do shots. He can't make like, he's always short on basketball.

Scott Benner 10:29
But he diagnosed you with Type One Diabetes.

Jaden 10:33
Well, I know I'm fat. I had it before that, but Oh, really? Yeah. That's what she thought. But um, my friend, he felt really bad. And he said, I'm sorry. And I said, It's fine, dude.

Scott Benner 10:48
I imagine. He didn't I imagine at nine years old. He probably felt terrible. Like he probably felt like he hit you in the head, man. You got diabetes?

Unknown Speaker 10:56
Yeah, yeah.

Scott Benner 10:57
Did you get you a good present for your birthday that year at all? Um,

Jaden 11:03
I honestly forget what he I think he got me a big gift basket. As soon as I got home filled with army guys and monster truck, see

Scott Benner 11:12
if it works. And that's a long time ago. That was like 20% of your life ago. It was a really long time ago. So yeah, Jaden, do you have any other health issues that you're dealing with besides the diabetes?

Unknown Speaker 11:27
I mean, no.

Unknown Speaker 11:31
I mean, I have

Jaden 11:34
a little I had a little bit of depression. And I still can't do but I had to go to a psych hospital. But because I just there was a couple years ago, I just wasn't, like very good, but I had to go there and they made me take off my vices and stuff.

Scott Benner 11:59
Let me ask you that the way you felt that led to going to the hospital, did you feel that way before the diabetes, or was that after diabetes?

Jaden 12:10
I think I always want to blame it on my diabetes, I think I want to blame everything on my diabetes, but um,

Unknown Speaker 12:21
I think

Jaden 12:22
it was a mixture of that. And I'm adopted, and I never got to see my birth parents or anything. But they're, they just weren't in a good state and stuff. Like, they're into a bunch of nasty stuff. So and a lot of my siblings are but the slash share, I got to talk to my birth sister. Her name is passion. But um, yeah, so that kind of help on leave a little bit of like, pain and stuff in me cuz I just kind of feel I kind of felt abandoned because like, as soon as I was born, like, three hours after I was born, my mom walked out of the hospital to get drugs.

Scott Benner 13:18
I'm sorry. Hey, um, I'm adopted. Did you do that?

Unknown Speaker 13:24
Oh, you're Yeah,

Scott Benner 13:26
yeah, I was adopted when I was. I mean, I was put up for adoption right away when I was born. And I think my parents got me. It probably in the first month or so I had to go to, like, through the foster system, I guess it was like it was 100 years ago. So it was a really long time ago. I think, basically, they took me out of the hospital. And they put me in a cardboard box. And the nice lady came by, and she took care of me for a while. And then I got adopted. I think that's about what happened, I might be wrong. But my parents adopted me. Like I said, in the first number of weeks of my life, and I've always known that I was adopted, I don't remember being told. And I find sometimes when I'm talking to other people who are adopted, that they kind of fall into like one or two different, pretty specific categories. I feel like they either really care that they're adopted, and it's upsetting to them, somehow, or they don't seem to mind at all, or at least say they don't mind. And I'm sure there's other character characteristics around being adopted. But those are the two that I've bumped into the most. And I am I never had that feeling like like, I wish I knew who everyone was and that I could meet people but I understand that you felt that way. Yeah, so you think maybe underlying throughout your very throughout your life, you felt like you just wanted to meet people and why would somebody just leave you? Is that the kind of the feeling

Unknown Speaker 14:59
Yeah.

Jaden 15:01
Like, it just kind of made me, it kind of hurt me like just knowing that someone would do that. Like, if I had a kid, I want to leave them to go get drugs, and stuff.

Scott Benner 15:17
Dude, I can tell you that some of the best lessons that I've learned from my dad who's no longer alive. And this is the man who adopted me. Like it, you hope that you learn from adults what to do, right? Like, you hope that somebody does something. And it's a really great example. And then you just go like, that's how you be a good person, I see it happen every day, my somebody in my family or my life is a good person. And that does happen, you will meet people like that, where you can kind of be aspirational about them. And I met plenty of people along the way who were like that, but they ended up being people I've worked with, or friends that had great traits. And I know this is a weird conversation, maybe. But what I learned to do was to look for the examples and other people that I hoped came from family. Yeah, and so if my family didn't do the things that I thought were very valuable and worth, you know, trying to mimic or be like, I would, you know, do it other ways. I, I used to work with a guy who had a great sense of humor. And I thought that made a lightness about him. And I could see that he had problems in his life, but he never acted like it. And I thought that that's a good way to be. And I had been like that when I was younger. I met people who were very thoughtful. kind, I've met a man who was very giving just a lot of people along the way. And I would just kind of cherry pick, just take the good parts of them and think, well, that's something that I might want to do. But back to my dad, who was my adopted dad, not even my birth dad. He was just, you know, he was fine. But he wasn't a great guy. And what I would do is I would see the things that he did that I didn't think were good. And I would just think Alright, well, there's a good example of how I don't want to act. You know what I mean? And so sometimes people are good examples, in a bad way. Sometimes they do something that makes you think, alright, that's definitely not the way I want to be. And, you know, so sometimes it's just how you look at it. Because you could be sad that they're not the people you want them to be. Or you can, you know, turn and look at your mom, you know, now and say, here's a person who really cares about me is taking care of me, you know? Yeah, it sucks, man. I know. But I can tell you, it's gonna get better. And there'll be times in your life where you'll look back, and you won't even remember feeling like this.

Jaden 17:50
Right? I can even say that my mom cares about me a little too much

Scott Benner 17:56
does she? How come?

Jaden 17:58
He just does like she's all like, she's just taking care of me in it sometimes. Sometimes when she takes care of me, it just gets kind of annoying.

Unknown Speaker 18:12
In a good way.

Scott Benner 18:13
Moms that are good are annoying. Oh, she hugging you too much. You think she knows that.

Unknown Speaker 18:23
But

Scott Benner 18:25
I can tell from the times that your mom has written to me over the years that she really loves you and cares about you. And I think that's terrific. Yeah, good for you, man. Look, you have somebody just like you wanted, you know?

Jaden 18:37
Yeah. And my bike I like came out with my dad. Like, my mom's The one who cares about me. And my sister was the one that grumbles about me. And my dad is the one that as soon as I as soon as he gets home from work or says I used to get off the bus. He's the one that would wrestle with me.

Scott Benner 19:03
Yeah, that's how it goes. Man. That sounds like a good family to me.

Jaden 19:06
Like as soon as I walk in the door, he'll like tackle me.

Scott Benner 19:10
Well tell him to be careful because you don't know how to catch a basketball. I realized the boy threw it at you but that's not the point. Yeah. So interesting. I guess you can you tell me. You said you went for your depression. You went to a hospital? How long were you there?

Jaden 19:28
Oh, I think I was there about

Unknown Speaker 19:32
a week.

Scott Benner 19:33
Okay. And well shorter than the diabetes. That's not bad. Did they teach you like what do you learn there? How do you what do you get out of it? That helps you?

Unknown Speaker 19:46
I mean,

Jaden 19:48
they basically like, do yoga and they're it's kind of weird.

Unknown Speaker 19:54
teach you to relax a little bit.

Jaden 19:56
Yeah, but um, the lady that did the Yoga. She was a little bit of a psycho. She was crazy.

Scott Benner 20:05
No, no, no, Jaden those those people are called hippies. They're not. She's not crazy. She's just, you know, she's just living life a different way. That's all. Did she teach you anything that was valuable? Oh,

Jaden 20:20
well, um, she was really crazy. And me and someone else was like laughing at her and we kind of bonded there.

Scott Benner 20:34
You found a friend making fun of the yoga teacher? That's nice.

Jaden 20:36
Yeah, yeah. So that's what I think they're they like Dude, there, they try a setup there. They try and make like, really weird activities to do to try to help to try and make you think you're calming down by it. And then in order to do that, they have to have like a crazy person up there. And then the people laughing bond and make friendships. So you think and that's how they deal with their depression.

Scott Benner 21:07
You think that this lady's so smart that her plan was to irritate you into having a conversation with the person next to you and forming a friendship? Maybe Hey, listen, then if she did that, she's kind of a genius, don't you think?

Unknown Speaker 21:24
Right.

Unknown Speaker 21:25
I guess so.

Scott Benner 21:26
Did I just hear that you're on the pod might be expiring soon.

Unknown Speaker 21:30
Yeah,

Scott Benner 21:30
yeah. That's cool. How long till it's done?

Unknown Speaker 21:33
Like two o'clock, two o'clock.

Scott Benner 21:35
game today. That's what it was done. Right? Yeah. I could probably sing that in my head. It's cool that it tells you when it's almost done, because I would forget sometimes. Yeah, if it didn't. So you said earlier that you have been trying to take better care of yourself. Your diabetes, yes. In in preparation for coming on the podcast.

Jaden 22:03
A little bit of that. And I was also trying to do it before good. But I will say that before, I wasn't trying as hard, okay. But I was just trying to do better. And I'm going to try to work harder even once this is done. And but I just didn't want to come on here with like, an A one seed. It's like eight or nine.

Scott Benner 22:32
There's nothing wrong with that, man, you get into something.

Jaden 22:34
Yeah. But I, my mom always wants me down to be like, she wants me to be in the best condition I can be. So in the future. I can like be healthy and stuff because her dad was a type two, or type one, I forget. But he didn't really take care of himself. And that was part of the well, he just then he just didn't get around very well. He wasn't a good cheap.

Scott Benner 23:09
didn't let me tell you that your health is the most important thing that exists. So nothing else works. If you're not feeling well, you know that you're you haven't been alive that long. But you've you've learned a lot of stuff. And one of those things is when you feel better. You feel better, right?

Jaden 23:25
Yeah, yeah. And also, um, our friend from Florida, he lost his leg because of this. So she just wants me to be the healthiest I can be.

Scott Benner 23:37
Well, that's good advice. Although you can't count examples from Florida because there's something up with those people. And I don't know what it is. But the craziest news stories in the world come out of Florida all the time. Right. Yeah. Have you ever once saw a news story about a boa constrictor like killing an antelope? And you're like, Oh, that must be like, you know, in Africa or something? Like No, no, it's Florida.

Jaden 23:59
Yeah, that happened while we were down there.

Scott Benner 24:03
I was trying to make up something crazy. Jaden. But what is it you saw in Florida?

Jaden 24:07
Well, I mean, we saw some crazy stuff we shot we while we were down there. The newspaper came in like now a gator and a kid almost or something like that.

Scott Benner 24:19
Yeah, that makes your life so much better, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah. Right. Like I mean, at least an alligator ratio. Should we should have like a moment of silence for the kid that got eaten by the alligator. I didn't mean to make you laugh there. I might be like that yoga lady. Was she wearing baggy pants chin?

Jaden 24:40
I'm a little. I mean, they weren't super baggy, but

Scott Benner 24:45
they're flowers on them.

Unknown Speaker 24:46
Yes.

Scott Benner 24:47
What else can I guess? I wish you weren't a tank top. No, no,

Unknown Speaker 24:52
that'd be too crazy,

Scott Benner 24:53
too crazy. It's probably not allowed to be not allowed to do that around the kids. But okay. So, what is it? Do you listen to the podcast?

Jaden 25:03
Um, I mean, my mom will sometimes Listen, I, I mean, I wouldn't I don't do it by myself, but my mom would sometimes listen. And like if she's listening to one in particular that I like maybe like, the one with Jonathan, um, I walked in from school, and I heard her listening to it. And I asked her, can you restart this? And she said, Why? I said, I kind of want to hear it. And she said, Okay. And we were sent to that dinner. And that one was good. And we listened to a couple offers, I forget.

Scott Benner 25:47
But Jane, do you know, it still freaks me out a little bit to think that that somewhere in Ohio, a family's having dinner and listening to the podcast at the same time, it's hard for me not

Unknown Speaker 25:57
a bad thing. Oh, it's

Scott Benner 25:58
a great thing. You should be listening 24 hours a day. And that's not what I'm saying. And on on different devices, too. But my point is that, it's if you ever do something like what I'm doing, you'll find out that your expectation in the beginning isn't that it's going to be as popular and that it's odd. Not odd, but nice and kind of strange to think that at the same time, all over the world, like people are listening, it's it's a little mind bending, I was gonna say something else, but you're too young. But it's just it's a little my unless you like to curse, and it's okay with your mom. And then, you know, I'd like to know what your favorite curses are. But we'll do that at the end. All right, so. But, but so what have you been doing with your diabetes? That's been helping because you're you're a one sees coming down?

Unknown Speaker 26:46
Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 26:47
cool. What are you doing? Um,

Unknown Speaker 26:49
I mean,

Jaden 26:51
I think a little bit. I mean, I think that what started to make me think to try and bring it down and stuff. There's two things this and like, I want to, like, be on this and stuff. And I want to try better. So I wouldn't be giving like, I wouldn't say bad examples, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't be giving a a like, example, that was like my a once he would be 12 or something.

Scott Benner 27:29
Okay, so let's pick that apart for a second. First thing, why did you want to come on the podcast?

Jaden 27:35
I want to help people, I want to maybe get some ideas from other people how to help. I wanted to, um, I want to like, do what my mom told me, I should try to do but she told me I should try be on here. And she said, maybe it would help.

Scott Benner 27:59
Yeah, I have to tell you Jaden. I don't know if you realize this or not. But I have a very long standing rule in my life. And I pay very, very close attention to it. I never break my rule, but I break it for you. You're the only one I break my rule for it's a simple little rule, but I do not correspond with children directly. So even like my, my daughter's friends, like my wife will be like, hey, text Arden's friend and ask them like, why do you think I have a 16 year old girl's phone number I do not write because Jane, if things ever gets sideways, you know what I mean? If the man ever comes, I don't want to be seen as texting with kids. You know what I'm saying? Right? Like, I just think people would see that odd, like, but you every once in a while you send me a nice message through your mom's account online. And I'm always happy to talk to you. So yeah, you're the only one I do it with just so you know. Otherwise, you're That's it? Cuz 11 the new 15 really, so we can hang up? Yeah, so you're trying to help people out? Right? And by just I guess, telling them what's happened to you and what you've done. might might help them like, sort of like maybe Jonathan helped you. Is that right? Yeah. It's funny, man. Because some people some adults don't like to listen to interviews with kids. And so like, every time one comes up, I'm there's part of me the part of me that wants the podcast to get downloaded a lot. Like I don't know, kids sometimes don't like but then I realize how helpful it is to people who do want to hear it. And then I stopped thinking about that. So I'm really happy that you're doing this and I'm glad that you had like a goal. Like it doesn't matter to me like a goal to do better is a goal to do better. But then you have to moving forward from here I have a goal that's for you. You know what I mean? Like I'm gonna continue to do this for myself so that I can, you know, be healthier because you must feel better with your blood sugar lowered. No.

Unknown Speaker 30:00
Yeah, I do.

Scott Benner 30:01
What does it feel like when it's hi?

Jaden 30:03
Oh, well, I was about to get that in a minute. The second reason I

Scott Benner 30:09
didn't I didn't mean to rush you. I'm sorry.

Unknown Speaker 30:11
Oh, it's okay. Okay, thanks.

Unknown Speaker 30:12
What's your second?

Jaden 30:13
The second reason I want to do this is because I'm in a car ride. To up to a good name, wasn't it? No. To? Yeah, good name. No, wait,

Scott Benner 30:28
hold on. While you're thinking about that, try not to let that wire up. Because I want to hear what you're really saying. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 30:40
Two.

Unknown Speaker 30:42
Crawford County,

Scott Benner 30:44
you reminded me of my uncle right now, Jade. I have an uncle who is very careful to get all the details in the story, right? Even the details that don't matter to the story. And you just you were just like, we were in the car on our way to? Um, was it Greenville? No. Was it? No, it doesn't matter if you're in the car. You're in the car. Where were you going?

Jaden 31:09
I think it was Crawford County, okay. Something. And in the car, I'd like my sugar was high that morning like to wear it when it read on the sensor. Okay. And, um, it just said hi. And my mom was up the and my dad didn't know where my poker fiend was. So I think it, we found it, but my mom checked it non night before because that was the night that we changed it. And it felt like by the couch, because she fell asleep by it and knocked it over. Gotcha. And But anyway, we left then my dad said try and bring it down with your pump. And I said, Okay, so I gave myself insulin, and we wait a little. And my cousin was with us. So I sat up front, because I wasn't feeling good. I can't sit in the back if I don't feel good. And if I yes, but um, and then I didn't listen often. So and again. Because I still wasn't down. My dad stopped at Tim Hortons. And he said, Eli, Do you want anything? Because that's my cousin's name. And he said, maybe. So he went in, and my dad got something, Eli got something. And I said, Dad, can I have some fun? And he said, okay, you can, but you better not let your sugar go higher. And I said, I'll try not to. So he got me. The drink delight. And we went a little more, and I couldn't drink my drink. Because like, I felt like I was gonna throw up. Cuz you typically do if you're high, I mean, and so I ate the I tried to drink the shake. I mean, the coffee, but I cannot do it. So I said it there. And my dad had to drink it because it was melting. So I'm, like, on the way to a gas station because we were making a pit stop. I threw up in the car. And my dad was like, are you okay? And I said, I think we need to stop up here discuss the issue. And he said, Okay, we'll do that. And yeah, and then I had to get through ecig ketones out by pain. So, um, yeah. And then

Scott Benner 33:59
so you had a really high blood sugar during a car ride with your father who doesn't sound like he's not the main person who helps you with your diabetes, right? He's more Yeah, the wrestling tackling guy. And so and the poker was jammed under the sofa because your mom fell asleep. By the way. This is why you're not supposed to smoke sit laying down because you could fall asleep and burn the house down, except your mom fell asleep and knocked the poker over very similar situation. And so you don't make it. And so and so you're having this obviously, your blood sugar's super high. Was it normally high a lot or is that wasn't common?

Jaden 34:37
Um, it wasn't really common. That was, well, it's typically high. But um, I mean, it's not typically high like, my shoulders like a roller coaster, ooh, all the time. It will go up and down and up and down. But it's typically high but um,

Scott Benner 35:00
Okay, so but this so this is something that you've had to deal with in the past, you just didn't have all the tools to take care of it, you're in the car doesn't make you feel good. Like there's a lot of different problems.

Jaden 35:08
Yeah, but I mean, it's never been like Chi for all day, pretty much. It's just been high for maybe an hour or two at the max guy. And so I wasn't used to it being high all day, and typically shy of kinda, I wouldn't say friend, because I like I knew him when I was growing up, but I was too young to remember it now. But, um, he's been well, not now. But he's in Florida right now, I think. But he has type one diabetes. He's a friend from church. And he's my mom's friend's kid. He's 21 I think 2122. But he has this and he would like me and him talk after church and stuff and

Unknown Speaker 36:14
stuff like that. But, um,

Jaden 36:18
but he said that, like, he was surprised that I didn't feel anything when I was hired. Because like, when I'm high, I don't feel nothing. Except for that day, like, every time I'm high and stuff, like if it was for two hours, one hour, 30 minutes, I wouldn't feel anything. Like it would just feel normal. And I wouldn't feel anything. So he was kind of surprised about that. Because like he said, he always felt something when he was high. And I said, Yeah, it will probably hit me more sooner, though. And as soon like, as soon as I said that, like a couple days after that the car ride happened on white Street. But um, and at the gas station. Yeah. I just didn't feel good at all. And I think up through up again there. And then we ended up going to, I think the next stop we went we went straight to Crawford County. Yeah. But then we, we went to his grave. Crawford's grave. No, Colonel Crawford. That's it. And we went to his grave. And there were a bunch of other tombs there.

Scott Benner 37:51
Jaden. Let me stop you for a second because I'm, I have been since you started talking about this, this part of the story. I have been trying to figure out what Crawford was. And now I'm thinking you were going to visit like, like a historical site with your dad. Your Colonel Crawford. Colonel Crawford?

Jaden 38:11
Yes. And he? He was friends with George Washington.

Scott Benner 38:14
All right, hold on a second. He didn't happen to know Colonel Mustard. Do you think Hold on a second. I just learned that I don't know how to spell Colonel. That was pretty embarrassing. Hold on a second. I got it. I'm on top of things now. Colonel Crawford High School. Oh, isn't Ohio, Colonel Crawford. Today, we're gonna figure this out together. William Crawford. Is that sound right?

Unknown Speaker 38:43
Uh, I don't know.

Scott Benner 38:44
Okay, so you were off. I see a painting of him. And let me tell you, he looks fancy. Us. I'm not making this up chin. So you and your dad, you're getting this now. You and your father and your cousin went on like a little day trip? To check out like some historical sites?

Jaden 39:07
Yes, it was for my school. We went up to Colonel Colonel village or whatever it's called. And we went to see his tombstone.

Scott Benner 39:19
Gotcha. You didn't throw up on his tombstone. Did you know good job. Wait, hold it together. All right. And you know, though, now what does this story about Colonel Crawford which by the way, Colonel Crawford is a strong contender for the title of your episode. Just so you know. Where Colonel Mustard I haven't decided yet. What What does that have to do with why you wanted to be on the podcast? He's there's two reasons you want to be on the podcast said to help people and then because of something that happened in this story. What happened?

Jaden 39:54
Well, we once it flew up, I felt better and stuff. But um We went to go out to eat after and my sugar was so high and stuff and we then they seem to think that there could be something wrong with my pump. So we just kept going and stuff. And then I said, Wait, what if there's something wrong with my pump and that's it. My dad was like, oh, that could be and I gave myself insulin with the shot and I came down a little but not too much. And I still wasn't feeling good or anything after but we were going to eat at Bob Evans, but then we ate at Taco Bell. I think

Scott Benner 40:40
when for the border.

Jaden 40:42
I got like 767 cheese roll ups,

Scott Benner 40:49
six or seven cheese roll out to try to stay away from the carbs.

Jaden 40:54
I think those have actually a lot of carbs.

Scott Benner 40:56
I don't know that you can get anything at Taco Bell. It doesn't have carbs. Did the pump site end up being bad? You? Did you learn that through injecting or no?

Jaden 41:04
Yeah, we did. And it worked at all. And then we went to Taco Bell. And because like we already gave our cell phones one for Bob Evans. And then we realized is that it was close. So we had to think of a high carb place that we could eat because like pink I gave myself like eight units because I was going to have a piggy pink cake. Like two of them.

Scott Benner 41:31
Piggy what Say that again?

Unknown Speaker 41:33
Hanky Panky cake.

Scott Benner 41:35
pancake. I'm googling Hold on a second. Oh, it's a pancake that looks like a pig.

Jaden 41:40
Yeah. bananas and I chocolate chips. Is it smile? That's cute. Yeah, me. My grandmother passed away. She passed away I think last year or something. But she used to always take us to Bob Evans when we stayed the night, me and my cousin both. And we would always order the piggy pancake. It was our favorite thing to get there.

Scott Benner 42:05
Nice. Now your episode is gonna be called piggy pancake in case you're wondering, hey, listen, I only have two pieces of advice for people. If your blood sugar doesn't move, when you're injecting, you know, when you're putting insulin in with your pump. A quick and easy way to see if your pump site is bad is to inject some insulin with a needle. And because if you put it in like that, and your blood sugar starts to move very quickly, you can assume that maybe the site is starting to fail. That's the one thing I tell people all the time. The second thing I tell people, Jaden is don't eat at Taco Bell. That is not really food. That's not good for you. Listen. Let's take a small sidebar for a second here. Colonel William Crawford was born in Berkeley County, Virginia in 1732. As you said he met George Washington who then was a young surveyor. They taught him a trade and then hired him to do some surveying in western Pennsylvania. Now there's much more information here. Somehow this story ends with in 1927, a stone wall was erected near the site where Colonel Crawford was captured on June 7 1782. They don't know where his body was buried. So I don't know how he went from like, hey, George Washington, what's up to I was captured. But it seems like a very gangster story. There's a battle of Sandusky combined forces in the Shawnee Delaware River. There's a lot of stuff going did you learn about this for school?

Jaden 43:34
Yes, my dad took me since I'm homeschooled. I don't really go on field trips. And the virus is happening at this time, obviously. So the school wouldn't have been able to go on field trips cheaper. So my dad just took me and before we went to Grenada and cut in and that word here,

Scott Benner 43:55
hold on a second. Jaden. I'm getting excited. The volunteers were in search of Native Americans who had captured a group of Moravian missionaries from it's a word that starts with a G and then has an end which

Jaden 44:11
Yeah, grenade and hot and yeah, I

Scott Benner 44:12
think we all know that's not how you spell but good. Aiden Hutton will say and Schoenbrunn villages, well, you had all the salient details while you're telling me this. Good. All right. I'm gonna read this later so that I can understand more about this in my personal time. Anyway, what did you learn from this day? Besides pancakes that look like pigs are more fun than cheese roll ups from Taco Bell? I learned

Unknown Speaker 44:34
that it sucks to be in ketoacidosis

Scott Benner 44:38
There you go. JD that's 100%. Right. It sucks to be in ketoacidosis. You did learn that and so you don't want to feel like that anymore. Is that the point? Yeah, yeah. All right.

Jaden 44:50
And it's like after Jonathan was talking about that, like I tried to be like how he's trying to take care of But and I didn't know I would be like, exactly what happened to him.

Scott Benner 45:06
So but so you're doing better now? Is that right? Like things are just going better for you? What changes have you made that have helped you feel better and help your blood sugar be less roller coaster?

Jaden 45:19
mean? I've tried to take better.

Scott Benner 45:23
Hey, Jaden. Jaden Hold on a second. Our connections gotten bad. So I don't know why. So I'm gonna, can you push stop? Hey, sorry. No, don't be sorry. Hey, listen, James done a great job of telling a story. But the internet connection on your end is getting funky. So I was wondering if we could stop the zoom call and then go back into it again. Yeah. Okay. So just, I'll end the meeting, which will kick you out and then I need you to hit that link and get back to it.

Unknown Speaker 45:52
Okay. Hi, I'm

Scott Benner 45:53
here.

Unknown Speaker 45:56
Can you hear me?

Scott Benner 45:56
I can hear you. Yeah, you're a little clear. Okay, there's a little bit of a noise behind you. I'm not sure if like the heater came on or something like,

Jaden 46:03
yeah, that's my sister one day heater on and I told her. I told her, just try. I might. I'll tell you. I'm gonna go into the living room so you can't hear my mom. My mom said, My sister is trying to act like a fan girl. wearing her juicebox sweatshirt that my mom got her.

Scott Benner 46:29
How old is your sister?

Unknown Speaker 46:30
She's 18. Ah,

Scott Benner 46:33
that's nice. All right, said hello, please.

Unknown Speaker 46:36
God said hello.

Jaden 46:39
But she had to turn the heater on because she was cold. I say I may have a heater in your room. Right? Yeah,

Scott Benner 46:46
go warm yourself up in another place. Hey, Jaden, that's great. I appreciate you making it sound better. So let me tell me when you're settled, I don't want you to be moving around. But but so you, you went through DK that day. You Colonel DK, I guess. And and it just was something you just didn't want to go through again. And then I asked you about some of the changes you've made that are keeping your blood sugar more stable. So what are you doing now? For your diabetes that you weren't doing a year ago?

Unknown Speaker 47:23
Um, I'm like,

Jaden 47:28
I don't know how to say it. Um, I'd say like on that event kind of scared me. So unlike just not sneaking snacks anymore. I'm

Unknown Speaker 47:44
I mean,

Jaden 47:47
I don't like, I don't do this on purpose. But I free my pump. Like, I know how much stuff is like, my mom says I'm guessing on it. But like, I know how much food is like, we took a test on it and stuff. And like, I absolutely demolished it. You could say Yeah. But like, I know how much like stuff. I know how much insulin to give for stuff. And it just feels like she thinks that I don't know how to do it. And she says I'm guessing through it. And I just like,

Scott Benner 48:35
didn't I tell you a secret? Oh, I'm guessing a lot of the times too. But when I guess and I get it wrong, I guess different than next time?

Jaden 48:45
Yeah, that's what I do. I mean, like, for pizza. If I'm having like free pieces, I know it will affect me hard after. So I do like, so my ratio is like one unit every 10 cards. So I kind of guessed that like each site says about one, one and a half units. And so I do maybe six if and I have about four pieces. I'll do six units and have about four pieces. Because afterwards it will kind of affect me hard. And if I see my sugar trending up, I'll give myself maybe another unit and it will typically at least the highest that we'll go for that is about 200. If if I do it that way, if my mom does it all the time, she's right with it, but I am not trying to be found rude about it, but she's just kind of awful at all.

Scott Benner 49:50
She doesn't get that she doesn't get the numbers, does she use less insulin or more insulin than you use?

Jaden 49:56
Um, She's so funny. Number like, and what the thing I have is weird. Like, if we put in my sugar and stuff, which I typically don't do, because it like it just, it's weird when you put in my sugar, like, if you put in your sugar and it's like 200, it will add in. So it's supposed to add insulin, but like, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't if it's once, like my mom wants to put it in for 143. And it gave me point two, but if she would put it in for like, 250, and want to give me any insulin at all,

Scott Benner 50:38
you know why that is? I can tell you why. Okay, so if you've had insulin before that, and the pump still thinks that that insulin is active, it doesn't give you more. So there's a setting in your pump called insulin action time. And most doctors set it to like four hours. So if at let's say at 12 o'clock, at noon, you eat some food, and you don't use enough insulin for it, you mess it up somehow and don't get the count, right? And then two hours later, your blood sugar's 140. And you're say to yourself, Well, I would like to give myself some insulin to get this down. And you tell the pump, I'm 140, how much insulin should I have? It's gonna say none, because two hours ago, you gave yourself insulin, you told it, you used enough insulin, and it believes that that insulin is going to stay active in you for four hours. So if you were to have gotten it right at noon, your blood sugar wouldn't be as high. But if you were to, but the pump doesn't let you go back and say, oh, Remember when I told you this thing was 20 carbs, it was probably really 30 carbs. So you just have to, you can override what the pump wants in that situation. If you think you need more insulin, you can just dial it up and give it to yourself.

Jaden 52:08
That's what I do. And my mom always wants to put my sugar in and stuff but I don't know we do it. Because every time we get does that, but now I know.

Scott Benner 52:19
I have to tell you, I imagine that just now when you said that adult people with type one diabetes who are listening are smiling and thinking Jaden starting to get this. So good for you. That's excellent. Tell your mom to be a little bolder, right? Yeah. But so you're learning how to do these things. And listen, man, you're young. I know. It feels like you've been alive forever. But elevens pretty young. And I think if you understand it, this Well, now you're you're Pre-Bolus Singh.

Unknown Speaker 52:50
Yes. Good.

Jaden 52:52
And, and I'm doing a little I mean, it's typically I, I have a hard time waiting to eat food.

Scott Benner 53:03
Don't think about it as waiting to eat food thinking about doing something before you were even going to eat. Yeah, that's

Jaden 53:09
what I do. But like I sometimes my mom typically wants me Wait, wait 25 minutes for 30 minutes. So I just kind of watch a show. If I don't eat it. Like, in five minutes. I typically just watch a show. And that kind of helps like, frame time faster.

Scott Benner 53:28
Do you have to wait 30 minutes to Pre-Bolus Are you trying to bring down a higher number before?

Jaden 53:34
No I to eat? Like, like if I give myself insulin? She typically wants me and we always 20 or 25? If not 30 minutes till I eat. But I think I mean, I would do 20 but not 30 or 25 for stuff.

Scott Benner 53:51
Yeah. I hear you. Listen, here's what I'm going to tell you. What's your agency right now?

Jaden 53:56
Um, I think it's last time we looked at was like, a 7.2. Wow, that's really

Scott Benner 54:04
great.

Jaden 54:04
Your 6.8 and when I was in the hospital, I think it was maybe nine.

Scott Benner 54:11
And that wasn't that long ago. Right?

Unknown Speaker 54:14
Two years ago. Wow.

Scott Benner 54:15
See? You're doing a good job. So you started at a nine? You're down

Jaden 54:19
nine. I think it was a nine I'm not sure though. But my average sugar I know my average sugar like it's when we got my sister It was like 226 maybe and now and that was for like for three weeks or something. And now for like a month is on my average sugars like 171 60

Scott Benner 54:59
Wow. Good for you. You're bringing it down

Jaden 55:01
a couple a couple weeks ago, like the Mall of the month one, the month section was like 124. Wow. So like me and my mom, like we were really proud and stuff.

Scott Benner 55:15
I'm very proud of you as well. That's excellent. Tell your mom. I told her. She did a good job. And so are you. Yeah. Yeah, Listen, man, you're gonna keep doing that. So that number is going to keep as you learn more stuff. And you have more experiences, Bolus and things you'll get better at it. And the blood sugar will keep coming down, you'll start getting it more stable, there'll be less rollercoasters. And before you know it, you'll have an agency that you want. And it'll be easier and easier to do day after day, because you're gonna keep learning how to do it, the real, the real secret you already figured out which is to pay attention to it. And and now you're paying attention. I do have a question about the old you, you know, back in the day, I wondered try to understand taking food and on purpose not giving yourself insulin for what why does he can you explain why that happens or how it feels while you're doing it?

Jaden 56:11
I mean, thank you. If my friends were over, like, once my friends were over me, my best friend and his refers. We were playing on my sister's Xbox, cuz she told us we could. She was over at their sister's house. And the boys stayed here. She went over to their sisters. And so she gave us all permission to play on the Xbox, she put the oldest brother in charge. And so he we all took turns playing. And then my friend, which is the medium child, the medium kid added the free. They he went down and got a big bucket of pretzels cuz I mean, we I always liked the pretzels and stuff. So my mom buys them. And he went down and grabbed them. And so he was just eating some and I said, Please don't do this, please don't do this. And he came in with them. And I said, great. You did it. And so I just started eating them and stuff. And like, I kept saying No, Mr. Self, I'll give myself insulin after ate them. And then I fell asleep playing Xbox box. And my friend ended up finishing the bucket and just left it on the floor. And my mom walked in and she said, You ate all these things. And I said, order them to

Scott Benner 57:57
what stops you from giving yourself the insulin when you see the pretzels, like when you see the pretzels. What stops you from going, huh? I'm gonna have some pretzels. Button button button beep I'm gonna eat my pretzels now.

Jaden 58:09
I mean, it's just like when I'm hanging out with friends. And I know the right thing to do. I mean, I'm getting better at it now. But when I used to see friends and I knew the right thing to do, I would always want to try to avoid it. Because when I first got this, even today I I kind of I know everyone says and I know I am still a normal kid. But I'm just, it just to me doesn't feel like I am. It feels like I have this. And this makes me different from everyone else.

Scott Benner 58:48
Can I tell you? Yep, everybody's got something, man. You just don't see it all the time. Everybody has something they're thinking about something they're uncomfortable with something they don't want other people to see or they don't want to be bothered with. And the truth is, is that some people figure out how to deal with those things. And some people don't. But you're starting to figure it out. So my best advice to you would be Don't worry about what other people think. Right? And not as many people are looking at you as you think they are. Right. So it's hard to feel like that. But, you know, the truth is, everyone's got their own life. They don't care about you. You don't I mean, they're not worried about the stuff you're doing around pretzels. And it feels like that to you. It feels like everyone's looking they're gonna bring these pretzels in the room and I have to give myself insulin and no one else does. But the truth is, no one cares. Like, if you feel like they do or they're judging you, and if you and maybe you'll meet somebody one day who really is then that person is not a friend. You know what I mean? Like your friends would want you to be comfortable. they'd want you to be healthy. They wouldn't want to see you get DK or I ended up back in the hospital, they would want good things for you. And and you definitely need to want them for yourself. And Jaden, I gotta tell you, man, you have to worry about yourself. Okay? Your first, your health is first how you feel is first. And you're as normal as anybody, man. You're 100% as normal as anybody, everybody. Everybody's different. And there is no real normal. Like, I mean, what does that mean? Like? What is normal mean? Exactly? You don't I mean, like, for you normal means you have to Pre-Bolus your insulin before you eat. So don't feel weird about that. That's who you are, man. I think you're a great person, why not? Just go ahead and be you, you know?

Unknown Speaker 1:00:45
You know?

Jaden 1:00:47
And also, like, it kind of just bugs me when like, my friends ask, like, what are you doing stuff like, when they're concerned about me, I kind of just wish they would think of me how they used to like, I'm, like, just like, everyone, before I got this would I just not really pay attention to me and stuff, like only my friends, which are, like, there were a couple friends I had at school. And I mean, I was sick, there was a couple, but the only friends I would really talk to school is my neighbor. And my friend's sister. And that would be it. And they would be like, really the only people I would actually like hang out with, like, at recess and stuff. But I'm not saying that I have like no other friends besides them. But those are the people I really only talked to at recess and stuff. And like everyone else kind of avoided me. Everyone told them like, stuff about me and stuff wasn't true. And they just kind of avoided me. And they were like, a lot of them were jerks to me, and I kind of miss being treated like that. I don't miss being treated like a jerk. But I just kind of wish it was like that still. Because I instead of people always been like, caring to me and stuff. Like I like that. But it just seems like they're too worried and stuff.

Scott Benner 1:02:36
I understand. But I think the way to get past that might be for you to just accept that this is how it is and make it normal. Like you ever see somebody, this is going to be a weird example, to ever see somebody wearing clothes that are really strange and weird. And they look super normal and comfortable in them. Like it's their confidence that makes them look good. It's that they're not worried about how other people see them like people, some people just feel comfortable in their own skin. Like, do you know what I mean? Like they just they know who they are. And they're okay with it. And that feeling goes out to the people around you. And then you seem you seem like there's nothing to look at. You're just you're just the way you're supposed to be. And you're always the way you're supposed to be. But you're the one that will make it normal. It's not them. It's not the people on the outside that get to tell you how you feel. You tell them how you feel? And then they'll react that way. Does that make sense? Mm hmm. Yeah. And if you need somebody to treat you like a jerk, I'm sure your sister will do it.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:43
Every day.

Scott Benner 1:03:45
She's handling you don't worry, Jaden, you're doing terrific. It's definitely gonna get better. You're just at the very beginning of this, which is hard to see sometimes. But this is the very, very beginning of this. And as the months and years progress and you get older, you're gonna, you're gonna do really wonderful because you're and I'm telling you right now, man, I'm not going to tell you anything different than I would say to anyone else. If I was talking to an adult, that was three times your age, I would tell them. If they said what you just said, For the last hour, I would tell them, you're going to do well. I can tell. I've talked to a lot of people. And you have what everyone who does well has. And you know what that is? You're trying that really is the core of how people end up doing well with Type One Diabetes. They care. They're paying attention, and they're trying, and it just gets better when you do those things. You're doing it man, you're doing great. Plus you talk to your sister and Linda user Xbox sounds like you got a full supply of pretzels as long as you don't invite that kid over. And you're doing you're doing all right, you know? Yep, plus it. Now Ohio. I guess you Last LeBron, that sucks. But I mean, other than that, is it a decent place to live? Oh, yeah, yeah, you go, what, what, what would make things? Like what? What's your next goal for yourself with your diabetes?

Unknown Speaker 1:05:16
Oh,

Jaden 1:05:16
my next goal is to I'm sure, I mean, get down to at least 5.5 or 5.8 on a one. See?

Scott Benner 1:05:31
That's great. Tell me something about your Dexcom. Where is your high alarm set out? When does it tell you you're getting high?

Unknown Speaker 1:05:38
I think that's maybe 200. Okay, I'll

Scott Benner 1:05:41
tell you what, if you start if you listen to me, okay. Pre-Bolus your meals, right? Yeah, pay attention to the foods you're eating. Meaning, you know, understand that pretzels take a different amount of insulin maybe then grapes do or that, you know, just like you're doing pizza might need more attention than a salad does, right? Like that kind of stuff. Yeah, keep keep paying attention to that. And remember that as you're growing, your basil needs are going to go up. Okay, yeah. And so be kind of flexible. And remember to change your settings when your settings need to be changed. Don't look at your blood sugar for three weeks going, I don't understand why it won't come down. Like give yourself some more insulin where you need to pay attention to how you're growing, keep doing what you're doing, you're going to get that a one C and the fives you absolutely well, and keep an end, as you're doing that have a goal of getting your high alarm on your Dexcom down to 140 by the end of the year. Okay, so the reasoning for that is, if you don't let your blood sugar get high, it won't be high. So when your blood sugar gets to 200, and it beeps, you're like, my blood sugar's 200, then you have to give yourself some insulin right? And you have to give yourself a fair amount to get it to come down. And sometimes you give yourself too much and you get low. But if your Dexcom were to tell you, oh, my blood sugar's 130. The amount, excuse me, you're the first episode I've done this year, I'm not used to talking the the amount of insulin that you would need to make a 130 into a 90 is much less than the amount of insulin, you'd need to make a 200 into a 90. So in short, the sooner you know, your blood sugars going up, the sooner you can do something about it. And when you do something about it at a lower number, you use less insulin. And by using less insulin, you're less likely to cause a low later, and that's where you start making stability. Does that make sense? Yep. All right, man. You're doing Oh, and if

Jaden 1:07:50
if you hear that noise, that's my sister opening up. Closing the garage door. She just

Scott Benner 1:07:56
don't worry about it. It's all good, man. We're done. Anyway. So is there anything left to say that you that you want to say that we haven't talked about?

Unknown Speaker 1:08:03
Um,

Unknown Speaker 1:08:05
I don't think so. I

Unknown Speaker 1:08:06
mean,

Jaden 1:08:07
I've not I know. I'm not really able to just sit down on the floor and talk to someone for about an hour by Phil enjoyed this.

Scott Benner 1:08:15
Well, Jen, I enjoyed it, too. And you did a really great job. Like, seriously, your stories were good. You're thoughtful about how you feel, even though you might not realize that because you're 11 I thought you were really insightful. And I thought you shared a lot of valuable information that other people are going to do. Do well to listen. So. You did exactly what you meant to do, man. Congratulations. Yeah. Good for you. Is it feel weird now that we did it? Yeah. Was it weird? Like you were nervous? Like sometimes you would text me and be like, you'd be like it we're recording and like three weeks? And I'd be like, what is this? I look nice. Jaden. I'm like we are. And were you like nervous as it was coming up or now cuz you did it? Yeah,

Jaden 1:08:56
I was. My mom and dad kept telling me to write like something up like and say, but I kept forgetting. And I'm like,

Unknown Speaker 1:09:06
I don't know what I'm gonna say.

Scott Benner 1:09:08
You did a really good job. And you're Let's remind people as you're going out, you're 11 right? Yeah, yeah. Did you did a great job. Are you kidding me? This was fantastic. I can't believe you were even nervous. You're good at this. And you didn't write anything? Right. We just talked. Oh, I'm great at this. You don't have to worry. I'll take you right through it. I thought we did good here. What do you think we should call the episode?

Unknown Speaker 1:09:34
Um,

Unknown Speaker 1:09:36
I don't know.

Scott Benner 1:09:37
It's hard to pick the titles. But I'll figure it you know

Jaden 1:09:42
what, just for the fun of it. Name it pinky pain, gay.

Scott Benner 1:09:45
I really might make a piggy pancake in case you're like that is really where I was at on that too. Okay, all right. I that might be what I do Jaden. I I really very well may do that. Alright, listen, man. Tell your mom I said Thanks so much for helping get us set up. And I think you're doing terrific. I really do. I wouldn't lie to you. And I think you need to keep doing what you're doing. You know, pay attention here in some of the way we talked about just now. And you you're on your way to doing something really great. I'm proud of you. You came a really long way through a lot of can we can we curse at the end? Jaden? Do you ever curse in Ohio?

Unknown Speaker 1:10:26
Well,

Unknown Speaker 1:10:26
no, I mean, should I Christians, but to Christians, not curse? I mean,

Scott Benner 1:10:34
do we not admit that we curse? Is that the play? Is that how we do it? I don't know. You don't know. Do you ever hear any wrappers around the house?

Unknown Speaker 1:10:42
No, no, really? All right. Well,

Unknown Speaker 1:10:44
my sister.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:46
Do you ever?

Unknown Speaker 1:10:48
Um, if I'm mad?

Scott Benner 1:10:49
Yeah. What's your go to curse? I won't. I'll bleep it out so people can hear. What is it? Ah,

Unknown Speaker 1:10:56
I honestly don't know. I think

Scott Benner 1:11:00
when you get mad you do though.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:02
Uh, yeah. Yeah. Probably. Probably.

Scott Benner 1:11:07
Yeah, it's a good one. Descriptive makes a point. But like, you stub your toe, you

Jaden 1:11:14
know? Oh, no, no, no. I mean, I don't scream a fight. Like, I don't get like say that. If I stub my toe or anything. They're just mad at someone.

Scott Benner 1:11:26
What about when you're walking down the stairs, and you drop something? And you What do you say?

Unknown Speaker 1:11:32
I just say crap.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:33
Yeah, I like and my dad might

Unknown Speaker 1:11:37
also just get mad at me for saying

Unknown Speaker 1:11:41
he doesn't like,

Jaden 1:11:42
Yeah, he doesn't like us using any words that could be like, anywhere close to being the customer. Like no replacement.

Scott Benner 1:11:52
Oh my God. He would not like it here then. I curse like all day long. Jaden. If If I curse on this podcast as much as I curse in my real life. I gotta tell you, I love cursing. I really do. But say that. We heard. What's that?

Unknown Speaker 1:12:09
You're weird?

Scott Benner 1:12:10
Weird. All right. I'm not telling you my favorite curse word. I think it'll kill you.

You were really great, man. This was excellent. Be proud of yourself. You did a wonderful job.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:24
Oh, okay.

Scott Benner 1:12:26
All right. I hope you have a good day. I hope you'll learn something. Yeah. And please tell your family I said hello. And thank you sister for wearing the sweatshirt for the podcast. All right. Okay, see ya. All right, brother. Take care.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:39
You too. Bye.

Scott Benner 1:12:46
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#428 Culture of Helping

Utah Adrianna

Adrianna is a young mother who lives with type 1 diabetes.

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Unknown Speaker 0:00
Are you checking her blood sugar?

Adriana 0:02
My insulin pump just well expired this morning. So I was just putting him back on. I can stop for a second.

Scott Benner 0:11
Don't stop, you're fine. It's a podcast about type one diabetes. If we can't let somebody put on an insulin pump during this, I don't know where in the world you'd be able to do it. The absolute place to do it, so talk me through what's going on while it happened. So you're pumped just expired it it just aged out.

Adriana 0:29
Well expired. Earlier this morning. I was half asleep, and then I didn't even realize it. But I took off my pump. Like off my body. I woke up and I was on my nightstand. So somehow in the middle of the night, because sometimes it'll just expire and I turn off the PDM. Okay, but I actually like ripped it off my body last night and it was like I'm sick of this. Yeah.

Scott Benner 0:54
So that way you did this in your sleep?

Adriana 0:57
Yeah, I am. I'm a pretty heavy sleeper.

Scott Benner 1:03
Alright, let's start over. How are we gonna refer to you? So since we're recording already?

Adriana 1:09
Oh, okay. Um, well, I'm Adriana and I live in good old Utah, and I've been diabetic for only six years. So I was I was 18 when I got diagnosed.

Scott Benner 1:34
Hello, friends, and welcome to Episode 428 of the Juicebox Podcast today proving that in fact, the Juicebox Podcast is the number one type one diabetes podcasts in Utah, another guest from the great state of Utah. She's got a great story to please remember, while you're listening that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan. or becoming bold with insulin. You know, I've never been to Utah. I might have to go. I think I would be treated like a I don't know exactly. I feel like there would be like a red carpet. And someone would bring flowers to the airport. Utah. I love you. And I have no idea why so many people from your state. Listen to this show. I'm gonna figure it out one day. Does Adriana have the answer? Maybe. Anyway, I really want to call this episode Utah, Adriana. But I don't know if I'm going to do that in

today's episode of The Juicebox Podcast is sponsored by touched by type one. They're an amazing organization, doing incredible work for people living with type one diabetes, and you should check them out. They're on Instagram and Facebook. And of course, at touched by type one. org. The episode is also sponsored by the Dexcom g six continuous glucose monitor. If you're using insulin, you need to see what your blood sugar is doing. dexcom.com forward slash juice box, you'll be able to find out more. And of course to get that free, no obligation demo of the Omni pod tubeless insulin pump. All you have to do is go to my Omni pod comm Ford slash juice box. Alright, let's get away from the diabetes for a second. Have you committed any major crimes in your sleep? Anything like there's no bank robber being looked for in your town and no one can figure it out. But you have a Lamborghini and you're not sure how you got it either. Nothing like that.

Unknown Speaker 3:53
No, no, no.

Scott Benner 3:54
I know. So that's interesting. So So tell me something you weren't wearing a pump for a while. Did your blood sugar go up? significantly?

Adriana 4:03
Yeah, yeah, I definitely woke up. I I'll wake up with my blood sugar gets pretty high too. And obviously the Good morning. You know, you have to go use the restroom or I if I wake up thirsty. I'm like, Oh, no. Where's my blood sugar out? And, and then I have Dexcom as well. And so that beeps at me. But my husband usually is more diligent at saying Hey, your sugar's high. Hey, cuz he follows me on Dexcom and he's like, you probably should put on the new pump. But, um, but yeah, so maybe not my best night as a diabetic, but

Scott Benner 4:46
we're gonna get into why you're haphazard with your hair later. But you just said your husband, and you've had diabetes for six years and you were diagnosed when you're 18. And so any and I mean Any knowledgeable listener of the podcast has just said to themselves. Oh my god, there's another Mormon on the podcast. Right? Am I right?

Unknown Speaker 5:09
Yeah.

Scott Benner 5:11
How is that I ask everyone, everyone that comes on who ends up being a Mormon? Because I don't double check on your, your religious beliefs before you go on the show. why in the hell is this podcast so popular in the Mormon community, you need to tell me somebody is eventually gonna tell me there's the news, like, Am I on a message board somewhere? Or?

Adriana 5:33
Um, you know, I actually heard of your podcasts when I. So here's maybe another stereotype. I'm Mormon, I'm an I already have a kid, just one. But

Scott Benner 5:46
please, you're not even Mormon, you have one kid, you need like six.

Adriana 5:50
But I was at an ultrasound for, for when I was pregnant. And the radiology tech told me, you know, found out I was type one. And because I was in the fetal medicine, and she said, Oh, you got to listen to this. So it was really just word of mouth that I heard, because I've never heard of your podcast before. And at that point, I had been diabetic for maybe four years.

Scott Benner 6:19
Okay. Was she part of the church?

Unknown Speaker 6:23
I don't know.

Unknown Speaker 6:24
I didn't ask her you have to find out from what

Scott Benner 6:26
I mean. I'm not saying like, hang up and call. But at some point in your life, if you could just take your drive and find like, that's the place I got my ultrasound, let me just duck in real quick. And check. You know, you could probably just check her underwear to say, and then you'd be able to figure it out, right? And tell me because I'm dying to know, like, Listen, honestly, as I joke about this, there's been like, 350 episodes of the podcast, I believe, like, maybe eight guests have, you know, have been from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints somehow, but and I'm sure I probably had on 7000 Catholics, and I don't realize it or anything like that. It's just such a, it's interesting, because you talk to them more. I know, not every Mormon lives in Utah, but I'm just gonna make a lot of generalizations that you can just correct me on at any point if you want. But it's not a densely populated place. And so like it, it stands to reason that somehow the podcast is being passed about within there. And I'm just I'm trying to find out how and so I asked everyone, you didn't help me? It's fine. We'll figure it out? Well,

Adriana 7:30
well, let me tell you this, I think especially, maybe it's not even religious, but it's just more the Utah culture is that we, that really, we do try to help each other out, you know, just neighbors, being neighbors and helping each other out. And really just we want that supporting. I know, there's, I'm already a part of multiple Facebook groups that are just a part of Utah for type one, and, and so it's an any, I think, maybe this isn't just Utah two, but any diabetic I need. I'm like, oh, we're on medically best friends. And we start talking about, you know, just the typical day to day things, because we can relate. And I think that's maybe why is that we get to hear perspectives and say, because when I was first listening to you, I'm like, Oh, my gosh, I get that and understand. It's like, I can relate. And even though I can talk to my husband about this, and he lives it day to day with me, but it's just different. hearing it from somebody else.

Scott Benner 8:38
No, I understand that. And so you feel like maybe you just happen to live in a community that that prizes, the idea of personal interactions and sharing what works with one person with another person. Just that kind of an idea.

Unknown Speaker 8:51
Yeah, that's excellent. All right,

Scott Benner 8:53
be my best. Listen, you I have to be honest with you. That is so far, thusly. The best interpretation of why it is. And most people are just like, what, I don't know. But you actually had like a thought. Alright, that makes us interesting. Okay, good. diagnosed at 18. You and I know this is great. I grew up in the religion or married into it.

Adriana 9:17
I grew up but I almost kind of hate saying that too. Because then people think, oh, you're like a blind follower. But I grew up but of course, I had my teenage years and, you know, rebellion and and stuff. And I, I've found the church for myself to be true. Cool. All

Scott Benner 9:35
right. I was just wondering how like, at what age do you start, you know, talking to your uterus and being like, Listen, it's gonna be you and me. It's gonna be tough at times. We're going to ask a lot of you, you're probably not going to be worth crap by the time I'm done with you. Just so you know. And but we're gonna get our mileage out of you and you are really, really going to do your work here. I didn't know if you had personal conversations with it or not. I would I'd be like, Listen, we got business. I don't know. But do you have that? Like how many brothers and sisters do you have?

Adriana 10:06
I just have one younger brother.

Scott Benner 10:09
He's ruining my. I am trying to set up a narrative here. Damn it and you are just ruining it. I'm just kidding. I'm totally.

Unknown Speaker 10:20
I totally get it.

Scott Benner 10:21
We've gone way too far into prognosticating that uterus is gonna get beat up. So let's just keep moving. What What is your hold your baby? What's her name?

Adriana 10:32
So I have a little boy, his name's Ellen. And he's about 16 months. And so he is walking and not quite using all of his words, but he is jabbering away all the time. And it's just, it's awesome. I really love this age, because I can actually, like, play with him now. You know, he can walk around and everything's exciting. And it's just, he's seeing the world for the first time. And that's, it's really fun.

Scott Benner 11:01
I agree. I completely agree. And it is a terrific, it is an absolutely terrific age. You know, in the beginning, they're just sort of like, their furniture, you move around, and it poops like so then, you know, eventually you start like, Oh, look, it's doing something and then they move and then they have their personalities start to develop. It's a wonderful time you get to stay with him all day.

Adriana 11:22
No, I actually. So I work as a medical assistant, I work in a family practice clinic, and but I only work three days a week. Um, and so yeah, so it's not too bad. I feel like and I've been working for about a year or so. And after maternity leave, and it's, it seems like the perfect kind of balance, you know, three days at work, and then I get four days at home. And so it works out that way.

Scott Benner 11:53
Excellent. Now, that's great. I'm happy for you. I really am. And it's right here us we're filling the pod and getting everything going again, where did your blood sugar? Do you have a feeling for how long you were without insulin?

Adriana 12:06
i'm john, I think I was probably maybe three hours or so.

Scott Benner 12:13
What do you think about sugar? Got to?

Adriana 12:16
Oh, I know. Because I checked my Dexcom and I was up in like the 330s or something. And so that's definitely a little too high for me. Yeah. Um, but Well,

Scott Benner 12:28
let me let me find out a little bit about how you like manage, like, what it is that you feel like your goals are and how important they are to like, you know, I mean, like, everybody has a different focus for their desires about their diabetes. So what do you what do you aim for? Like, what's your goal, day to day? Um,

Adriana 12:46
well, because you can set your own ranges on the Dexcom I have mine between 70 and 150. Usually, so I was like, double where I want to be. Mainly because, you know, as Owens getting older, we are, like thinking about starting to have more and and so I want to bring my sugars back down. So I can have that, that good control before I get pregnant again. But after I had Oh, and I was like, because during pregnancy hormones, just make it crazy. Make your blood sugar crazy. And so it after I had him, I was like, Oh, it's just me, I'm not taking care of somebody else inside of me. And so I kind of let go for a while. And so the last like, couple months, I'm like, Kay, let's bring it back in and get that take control. Again.

Scott Benner 13:41
Jenny Smith and I just recorded yesterday, a pro tip about a pro tip episode about pregnancy. And that was one of the things we spoke about is that after you have the baby and all the things that can come with that you can have postpartum you could just be tired, you could just be busy, that kid might not sleep, you know, all this stuff. And what's the easiest thing to cut away when you're looking for time, and it often ends up being yourself which is, you know, of course, terrible on any level. But when it's around your diabetes, it's, I guess it's a little worse, honestly. So you were just like, Alright, I'm gonna pull this back the what are the first steps in pulling it back together?

Unknown Speaker 14:22
Um,

Adriana 14:23
well, mainly, me and my husband try to eat pretty healthy. So we try to we try to really meal prep better and just focus on what we're eating. And I actually have a friend who's a registered dietitian, and so I was getting consults from her as well and and really trying to set those alarms so I checked my blood sugar, you know, or give insulin before meals because oftentimes, I'm ready to eat and I'm like, Oh, I didn't give it Bolus any before and but Or there's even been times because at work, it can be so, so busy that I actually actually forgot to give insulin before I even ate. And so I had my meal and I was back at my desk and I'm like, Oh, I got my alarm that my, my sugar was going up like, Oh, well, I need to get some insulin in me now. But, um,

Scott Benner 15:22
where does this usually lead you to? For? Like long term results? You have a, you know, where you're a one sees usually sit, would you be willing to share?

Adriana 15:31
Um, yeah, I'm, I'm due again for my agency. But like three months ago, I was 6.8.

Unknown Speaker 15:40
Excellent. So that's wonderful.

Unknown Speaker 15:42
Yeah,

Adriana 15:42
I feel pretty good about it there. But still, I'd like to see it a little lower

Scott Benner 15:46
here. But you know, it's still it's very respectable, at the at the, you know, at the very least, and you're talking about healthier foods. And there's a difference between healthy whatever that ends up meaning and impactful on your blood sugar, which is, is sometimes people get confused about, I think they're like, I don't understand what's going on, I eat this very healthy thing. It doesn't mean it doesn't have, you know, an impact on your blood sugar. So are you did you go lower carb? Or are you cut out junk? Or like, what was the, like, when you look in the kitchen, you were like, one thing needs to leave here? What was it?

Adriana 16:27
Oh, it was more. I have a very sweet tooth. And I maybe say, too many jokes about that. You know, I'm like, Oh, I'm diabetic. So of course, I'm sweet. And I need to eat that cookie or something. But, um,

Unknown Speaker 16:44
but yeah, it

Adriana 16:44
was mainly kind of cutting out junk. You know, of course, I don't need as many sweets as I want during the day. And but yeah, a lot of the health, like, the nurse practitioner that I work for she recommends the Mediterranean Mediterranean diet. And, of course, that's a lot of carbs. Because they try to cut out meat or that not protein, but more animal based meats.

Unknown Speaker 17:17
And so a lot of

Scott Benner 17:19
a lot of those plants have carbs in them. And yeah, and everything that falls into that? Well, I just say that. I think if you know how to use your insulin, you could do that easily. That's not a problem. I mean, you're able to see six, eight. So it's not like you're not lost, you're doing great. And I don't know that, you know, you know, if somebody wanted to be low carb, I don't, I don't see a problem with that either. And even if I did see a problem with that, I don't think I would say I think it's everyone's business to eat the way they want to eat. But you're you've already touched on the things that really make a difference. are the things that are sort of, you know, nebulous, it's the remembering to Pre-Bolus or not getting busy at work, and that and it happens to everybody, like I don't know, anyone, I don't know, anyone who doesn't just one day, grab their food, sit down and go, Oh, you know what, I have diabetes I should have for my kids guy forgot about that, you know, it just really does. And one day, you're gonna have 23 kids, and it's gonna be harder to remember. So we have to find a system for you. That's going to help. And, but but you really are interesting, because you're two people. To me. You're, you know, an adult married person with a child. And you're still also just in your mid 20s. And I remember myself in my mid 20s. And I mean, I had a kid too, but I was pretty much an idiot. You know, I didn't really know what I was doing yet. I actually was lamenting the other day. I'm 48. I don't even know 100% know if I've grown up yet. To be perfectly. Like I think I might be a man in like seven more years is what I'm hoping

Adriana 18:55
my father in law says if you don't grow up by the time you're 50, you don't have to

Unknown Speaker 18:59
so Oh, really? You got

Adriana 19:00
a couple more years? Yeah.

Scott Benner 19:02
Let's wait two more years, I can just let this whole thing go. You're saying? What do you think? What do you think he means by that? Like, people have accepted you now and they're not looking for real growth from you? Or it's working, so don't worry about it.

Adriana 19:14
Maybe I'll leave the interpretation up to him.

Scott Benner 19:17
Yeah, I'm leaving it up to me. I'm saying these people are stuck with me. They've stuck with me this they're not gonna bail now. Like, do you think I'm gonna look up divorce rates after 50 for first marriages, maybe? Maybe you're right, maybe people are just like, ah, too much trouble to move the desk. I'm staying. Yeah, so I was gonna say can you tell me a little bit about your diagnosis at a team where you just out of high school or were you still in?

Adriana 19:46
Yeah, um, I was in my first year of college. And I you know, college food is super great. Just Top Ramen, peanut butter and jelly. Lots of cars. And I was moved down to Southern Utah. And so it was really hot. And I was drinking water all the time. And I just thought it was because I was in a new place. Um, but I, the interesting thing is I didn't lose a significant amount of weight. At least, that I noticed, you know, I wasn't in the hospital, crazy. I came home. And I decided that I was going to serve a mission for, you know, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. And so you have to do like a, we call it a mission physical, but it's just a physical with your doctor. And they found sugar in my urine. And they, they thought that I was type two at the time. And I have working in a medical clinic, I don't know, what was going on what they were seeing. Because now that I know and where I help other patients and things I'm like, Well, why didn't anyone second guessed this because they thought I was type two, and put me on Metformin for a little over a year. And my sugars just weren't getting any better. And I got, they told me I was diagnosed with mono at one point. But I think I was going into more of DK. And finally, I got a second opinion. And she did the antibody test for me. And then type one ever since.

Scott Benner 21:37
Yeah, it's so surprising, isn't it? Because Metformin should impact a person with type two more quickly than a year like it shouldn't take someone a year to go ha, this still isn't working? It really just it shouldn't. And that's sucks. And it even goes to show a person like yourself who works in the situation that you do can still be moved by what the doctor is telling you like, I mean, why would you? Even if you kind of doubted in your heart, you can't, it's hard to break away right from the doctor telling you Hey, you have type two diabetes? Like why would you just believe that? I guess? And what happened? What happened at the end of that year that made somebody go like this isn't working? What was the next step to figuring out you were type one?

Adriana 22:21
Well, no. So that second opinion, I got my primary care who diagnosed me as type two ended up moving away. And so I had to go, I was, you know, basically forced to go to a new physician, which I didn't mind. And he was just looking at all of my symptoms. And my history is like, this doesn't add up. Because I wasn't working, I was still going to school and getting into my program at that point. And so I wasn't a good enough advocate for myself, either, simply because I wasn't aware. But thankfully, this new physician second guessed it and said we need to do more blood work. And was surprised that we didn't do the antibody tests right off the bat, either. But, um, but yeah, so

Scott Benner 23:14
how did it feel at 18 to be told you had type two diabetes? Was it in your family like, did that? Was it not surprising where you're like, Oh, that makes sense. Everybody has type two in my family, or how did that? No, no,

Adriana 23:26
no one on either side of my family has diabetes. Later, when I was diagnosed type one, then we found out that my grandpa had pancreatic cancer, which of course has, you know, red flags in the back of my mind, but but no one has type one or type two diabetes on either side of my family. And so it was just strange. And in, I didn't eat super well in college, because I don't feel like maybe anyone does, especially freshman year, but so I was like, Okay, I thought maybe, okay, it's just diet. I can do this. I can change. But as I was learning more about diabetes to in my health classes, I'm like, something's, something's not right. And so, thankfully, between that and the doctor, we were able to, but it just, it was hard. Especially poking. I didn't know about Dexcom and I was poking my fingers all the time. It was just it was hard.

Scott Benner 24:41
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I mean, it would be bad enough at 18 to be told you have type one diabetes, but to have something that I think people generally think of as being an older person's issue. Right? I know it's not the case. But still it would feel like that in the moment. You know, like, wow, this isn't like this doesn't happen to 18 year old people. And I just can't imagine that being just difficult to understand and really confusing. How did your parents do? Like, was it just one of those things where you're like, Alright, well, she has this and they gave her pills, and they made sure you took them? Or was there? Like, like, was there a lot of conversation around it? How did it? How did that work in that first year.

Adriana 29:22
More My dad was in the hospital quite a bit so that he was kind of my motivator to become have my career be in medical. And so and I was 18 I was going to college I had moved out I I was an adult at that point. And so my parents were there to support me and love me and help me in any way they could. But it was it was kind of my, you know, trial and my thing to go through. And so they wouldn't say did you take your pill today or you know, have you checked your Sugar, but they were there if I ever needed something or if I had questions and I could come to them, but

Scott Benner 30:08
were you away at school? Or were you living at home and commuting?

Adriana 30:13
Um, no. So I live in northern Utah. So it's, it's a six hour drive down to the school that I went to.

Scott Benner 30:20
Gotcha. So they weren't even. Yeah, I mean, listen, that makes sense. The your dad had like, chronic issues, that stuff he was dealing with.

Adriana 30:29
Yeah, yeah. So he has had his own chronic issues. And, and yeah, so they, of course, just like any Mom, I, you know, I'd call her and talk to her. And she would ask how I'm doing and, but eventually that summer, so I got diagnosed, like in December, but I went back to school for the rest of the spring and came back in the summer. And and so they were maybe a little bit more helpful, like to remind me say, Oh, well, did you check your sugar? But, um, but really, it was all up on me? Yeah,

Scott Benner 31:04
no, I mean, listen, it's a unfortunate moment. Right? Like, right? Is it like, you're in college, you're just not home anymore, like, even a year and a half sooner, you would have been around them more often? Who knows what they would have seen? You know, it's, I mean, you'll know now, and you probably have figured it out over the last 16 months, but you're really paying attention to your kids. When you're a parent, you're like, oh, something changed, or, you know, a lot of that going on. But, yeah, I mean, it worked out right, in a year. So when you find out that you're type one, how does that change things for you? Was it a relief?

Unknown Speaker 31:38
Or

Adriana 31:40
I feel like it's hard to say it's a relief, because, you know, everything you read on type one, there's, there's no cure. You know, you're you have to have for the rest of your life. But type two, I was like, Okay, I can fix this, I can get better. And then I was told I'm type one, and it was

Scott Benner 31:59
felt like something you couldn't fix anymore.

Adriana 32:01
Yeah, I couldn't fix it. And, but it didn't get me down. I was like, Okay, I can deal with this. And by that point, I actually had already married my husband, Chris. And so I was married. And then just a couple months later, they diagnosed me as type one, which then brought on a whole lot of other emotions, like, I felt almost kind of guilty for Chris. Because then there's this huge financial thing with insulin and insulin pumps and doctor appointments. And and I'm like, Oh, you didn't get to really know about this. You just, you know, it just happened. But of course, he has been my, my best supporter through all of it. And he has been amazing. But for me to bring that it, you know, I it makes me feel a little guilty. Yeah.

Scott Benner 33:05
Yeah. It's, uh, you feel like you feel like you brought an extra burden on to an early relationship? Is

Unknown Speaker 33:10
that it? Yeah, that's exactly.

Scott Benner 33:14
Well, I mean, I couldn't be hard to disagree with how you feel I could see feeling the same way. And I've heard and talked to a lot of people who feel that way. I mean, the only thing I could say is that, you know, if he doesn't feel that way, and you guys are discussing it, and you know, in it together, it's, it's not going to be, you know, a burden. It'll just be it'll just be another thing, like, you know, call a call diabetes. Somebody Jenny told me the other day, she thinks of diabetes as a toddler, that just that never grows up. Maybe it'll just be that like something you always kind of have to fuss with a little bit and needs help and can't quite take care of itself, etc.

Unknown Speaker 33:52
Yeah.

Scott Benner 33:53
Have you ever asked him? Is he does he feel burdened by it?

Does he feel burdened by it?

Adriana 34:07
I've asked him before and he's like, well, it's, it's just what it is. And if it wasn't diabetes, then we would most likely have something else to have to work through. Because marriage isn't easy. And but it's something to work through and to. And so I just really locked out

Scott Benner 34:28
a guy. That's excellent.

Adriana 34:30
Yeah. Yeah. And he, he himself is going into school for nutrition too. So he helps me out that way. And it's, it was just kind of great. That I found him.

Scott Benner 34:44
Good for you. Did you meet him in in high school or college?

Adriana 34:48
No, um, I actually, I actually met him online. I met him through a dating app and Funny enough, his brother in law met his wife through the same dating app too. And

Scott Benner 35:07
please tell me there's a Mormon dating app the rest of us aren't aware of.

Adriana 35:11
Is there actually is. We didn't meet on that one. I would have used that one. But I know

Scott Benner 35:18
j date does j dates. So I'm asking you like you would know that was that's for Jewish signals. I wonder if that still exists. I'm looking it up as I cheat. Ajay date still exists. JD calm. Okay. So yeah, you know, that's makes sense to you. You met him? All right, what grabs you first, when you're meeting somebody like that? Is it a photo or something? They said, and then what do you do next? Do you text or call? How does that all work? I'm very old. So none of this will make sense to me. But explain it to me anyway.

Adriana 35:50
Yeah, so there's, you know, obviously, there's a profile picture and but then, like, kind of like Instagram, you can kind of look through a couple. And then usually there's a short little profile, and they can say whatever they want there. And but the interesting thing that caught me to Chris, is that because most of these guys are like, like muscle pictures, and you know, trying to show off, and Chris had a quote, an inspirational quote, as his first picture. And I thought, Oh, my gosh, he was this weird he, and, and then we just started talking. And of course, he had a picture of himself later, but he made a point to have like an inspirational quote first. And as we continue to talk, then, you know, I could just kind of feel that we were that he was genuine. And so it was really more so through conversation is how I looked at it, but

Scott Benner 36:51
Well, that's lovely. And so he didn't do something corny, and are trying to show you his guns, right. Like he was just like, look at my look at my biceps. Pick me Pick me. Now, when you get a hold, like when you when you, I don't know, either you swipe or you click or you do something? And does it start as a texting, I know it has nothing to do with diabetes, but this is just texting, and then you decide if you want to call.

Adriana 37:14
Um, so. So I'll be honest, the app was Tinder that we were on. So that's the one that people always joke like, swipe right on our left. And so you both have to swipe right. I believe it's been forever. But you both have to accept that, Oh, I like this person. Hopefully, they'll say I like you too, and make sense. And then it sets up like this chat within the group in the text or, sorry, the app. And then from there, if the conversation goes, then you can either meet up or give them your number or,

Scott Benner 37:47
you know, it'd be more of a competitive Bloodsport, if not, if both people didn't have to agree. It was just one like I agree. And the other ones like I don't like too bad. You have to talk to me now. And then we started. You got on the app, it's your fault. Strange conversations with people you don't like. But that's, that's really cool. How does that make it feel? We'll see you. I'm interested, honestly, because you're in a very specific age range that doesn't feel impersonal to you. Right? That feels normal.

Unknown Speaker 38:19
To sorry, explain

Scott Benner 38:20
your question to meet someone digitally doesn't seem impersonal to you. Is, am I right? To say that? I'm not saying it is I'm saying it doesn't strike you that way. Um,

Adriana 38:35
I had enough conversations on there. But you can, of course, online is can be a scary world, but with, you know, with limits, and now I didn't feel like it was impersonal. I felt like I've had pretty good conversations through there. But of course, you know, you have to be safe online.

Scott Benner 39:00
No, no, yeah. 100%. I just, it's a very, like, understand that. When I was 1918 1920 years old, like I had to go somewhere in public see a group of people choose a person that I thought was attractive, and then wander over to them to find out that they did not care for me in the least bit. Like that hadn't happened right in front of them. They had to like you had to watch someone's face go. Ooh, really? No. Why would you think that? I would, oh, sorry, excuse to walk away. Right. Like that had to happen. And it had to happen to you a lot. Before. You know, some people be like, Hey, cool. Let's you know, I'll keep talking to you. So anyway, I can remember anyone over a certain age is listening right now is like yeah, there's nothing quite like being turned down face to face.

Adriana 39:51
Oh, yeah. And let me tell you, I've definitely had plenty of those too. But I I started using the app when I came Back home. All my friends were still at college or, you know, out, they were out on their own LDS missions. And so there wasn't that, at least from what I could find wasn't really that dating group available to me when I was home, so, so yeah, but yeah, I'd much rather than in person but that's kind of just how it went. And you know, I'm grateful for it.

Scott Benner 40:28
That's it seemed I mean, obviously worked out really well. It's, it's cool. I'm not judging it at all. I just I, you know, yeah, no perspective on it. Listen, before we get back to diabetes stuff, there's another listener who's telling me I should live in Ken knob, Utah, K and a B. I can I can NAB Is it a wonderful place? They're selling me pretty hard. So is it?

Adriana 40:52
Yeah, yeah, can NAB is beautiful. That's more of the Southern Utah to and it's, you know, Red Rock. It's definitely desert. But, but then you can get to mountains and it's beautiful. And honestly, I I do love Utah. Because you can kind of get all sorts of different landscape from green, lush mountains and lakes to, you know, Salt Lake City and to Red Rock down in southern Utah.

Scott Benner 41:23
Yeah, I have to be I'm looking for a place to retire where there's no humidity, and it doesn't snow much. That's pretty much my goal. So but is it gonna snow on me and Utah?

Adriana 41:34
In northern Utah? Yes. When I was living, so I lived down in St. George for college. And there was a little bit of snow but it I don't think we got more than a couple inches. That's not

Unknown Speaker 41:47
perfect. Yeah,

Adriana 41:49
up in northern New time. Definitely used to a foot or two. Yeah,

Scott Benner 41:53
I don't want that. Oh, not good. I'm not I'm not looking for that. I it's those here. And I don't need that one. I'm old. Oh, hold on. Alright, so I seriously I know, I joke the beginning but seriously asking, like, what are your plans? Are you? Are you going to have a baby again, soon? are you sticking with one for now? Or what's the play,

Adriana 42:18
we definitely want him to have siblings. So really, I kind of have a lot of pressure on myself right now. Because I'm like, hey, I want to be a little bit more in shape. And I want to get my agency down as low as I can get. But then again, that's kind of how I was before we had it all in and it's it just, you know, you kind of just have to go for it. And just trust that everything's gonna be okay. And because being pregnant with type one was, it was kind of scary.

Unknown Speaker 42:55
How so?

Adriana 42:57
Just, um, I've had multiple friends, or people that I follow, and they've had babies and they've been born early. Like as like 32 weeks early, and, and they've had conditions like heart conditions, or they've, they've weighed like 10 pounds or more and and then the moms themselves have had issues with too much blood loss or.

Scott Benner 43:28
And this all stems from just not having that kind of low tight control that is recommended during pregnancy.

Unknown Speaker 43:35
I don't even

Adriana 43:36
want to say it's because of control. I think maybe there were some other kind of factors too, because I don't know all of their health history, but I do know that they're type one. And, and really, Pregnancy just changes your body like crazy, everything changes. But then to add type one in that blood sugar control, and how much it actually does affect your baby during all of your trimesters, then, that's where I'm like, okay, I want to give the best chance possible for our next baby. And, I mean, we were, we were very blessed and had Oh, and he was two weeks early, but he was already eight pounds, 11 ounces. And and that's partly why we had him early is because he was just getting more and more weight.

Unknown Speaker 44:28
And I had a lot of

Scott Benner 44:29
fluid and he had to get out, right, like, unless you're gonna create like a zipper pouch or something like that. There's, I mean, how much bigger Can he get before you're like, Hey, you know what, leave him in there. Because not looking for this problem. But well, you know, it's funny because I really did just have this conversation yesterday with Jenny. And we talked about three months like she said, I said to her health house, like how long before I plan on getting pregnant? Should I begin on this process if my blood sugar is not already Ready, where you know where a person wants it to be. And she's like, I gotta say, three months, like you have to get down, get stable, and be in a position where you're doing it on purpose, and you're having results consistently, that leave you in the range that you're looking for with pregnancy. And, you know, she's like, you just mean that, sort of the thing that both of us came up with is that it you know, you obviously people get pregnant, not on purpose all the time. But if you're planning it, she was like, the first step is, you know, get your blood sugar's where you want them in a way that are controllable meaning that you know, when you do something, your blood sugar's react the way you intend, not like, I got lucky, and my blood sugar wasn't high today, but I did it on purpose. She's like, then you have to go find a good high risk doctor. And like there was, there's a lot to think about, you know, and a lot of

Unknown Speaker 45:51
green.

Scott Benner 45:54
Will you use the same people you used last time? Like, how was your experience with your physicians and everything?

Adriana 46:00
Oh, I loved I loved my doctors. They were, they were great. And they were, they worked well with each other too, which was probably the most I could ask for. Because my endocrinologist couldn't be in the hospital. He didn't have privileges there. But my endocrinologist is just amazing, too. Because he, he texted me, he gave me his number. And he's like, hey, let me know when you're going to have the baby. And I'll text you, you know what we need to do maybe with your settings, and he would look at my Dexcom reports. Just online every couple weeks and let me know if I need to change anything. And so, but then they also worked my ob and my endocrinologist and my high risk. ob just worked so well together. It's nice.

Scott Benner 46:51
It's great when there's a good meshing between them. But you said your endo didn't have privileges in the hospital. She was sort of like Cyrano, he was just kind of hiding in the bushes yelling up to the window about what to do next. Make your basil higher. Did you were you're pumping your Dexcom it during your delivery?

Adriana 47:13
Yeah, I did. And, you know, my labor was it was horrible. They induced me. And I was in labor for like, 30 hours. And then they finally said, Hey, how about we do a C section? And I'm like, thank you.

Unknown Speaker 47:28
Why didn't someone have this idea? Yesterday? Thank you. Right,

Unknown Speaker 47:32
exactly.

Adriana 47:35
But I think partly too, because I was a first time mom and I told them I wanted to try. And, you know, I was we were so close. But it just I had a big baby. And I'm kind of a smaller stature. And so he just was not gonna come out. But But yeah, I was able even through the C section, they let me keep my Dexcom and Omnipod on and my ob made a specific note to say, Hey, keep her ducks Come on the whole time. She's in the hospital, because the nurses told me they'd have to come in every hour and poke my finger in check. And I'm like, nope, here's my phone. Just tap the screen and you can look at my blood sugar. Please don't wake me up. Just look right there.

Scott Benner 48:22
These are my last days to sleep. I really don't want you to wake me up. Use this thing right here. You can have my phone, read my text. I don't care. Just let me sleep.

Adriana 48:35
Especially after that long labor, I was I was exhausted. And so thankfully, all my nurses, everyone was just great. So it was a good experience other than the length. But it was good. That's excellent.

Scott Benner 48:50
Good for you. I mean, it's important for everybody. It really is because there's a lot of you have to be careful, I think. Because you have to have a lot of different thoughts that you can't have, you know, like your high risk. ob knows a lot about high risk doesn't necessarily mean they know a lot about diabetes. And your endo knows a lot about diabetes, hopefully, but doesn't necessarily mean they know a lot about high risk pregnancy. And so you need everybody's, you know, everybody's input is is very important in that situation. For sure. Did you get tough any point in the nine months that didn't feel long? Or was it difficult to keep your blood sugar's where you wanted to? How did you find the actual process of doing it?

Adriana 49:32
The first trimester felt like forever because we wanted to wait until I got into that second trimester to really to tell people because you just never really know how it's gonna go in.

Unknown Speaker 49:45
And

Adriana 49:46
it honestly felt like I kept having low blood sugars in that first trimester and I don't know if it's because I was trying to overcompensate and I'm like, I wanted my sugars to be nice and low to make sure the baby was okay. But then as I kept progressing in the second trimester, and the third third was the hardest because just all those hormones, I was having to use almost triple the amount of insulin I was used to. Yeah, to keep my blood sugar's under range, but not uncommon. How

Scott Benner 50:19
did you find that the first time you did it? Were you prepared for that huge jump in insulin need? Or was it tough to make that decision the first couple of times, like I'm gonna put this amount in?

Unknown Speaker 50:30
Well, thankfully, my, well,

Adriana 50:32
I say my endocrinologist, but he's also a nurse practitioner, but he himself has type one. And he was like, Hey, I have this insulin, the fiasco insulin, right. And that just works really well and faster. And that helped me to keep it under control as best as I could. But still, I was using a lot. So he was really, I think, between me being aware of it and trying to keep it under control. And my endocrinologist being so good as well, then we both were able to work on it. But

Scott Benner 51:13
he had a good group. It sounds like, yeah, nice. That's excellent. I mean, he must have been thrilled that it went well. Right like it. Was there worry. Even though things were going pretty well? Did you find yourself concerned? Or was there a moment where you just got comfortable? And you're like, you know what, this is going okay, I don't have to, I don't have to worry, at least.

Adriana 51:34
No, I was. And maybe it's first time mom anxiety too. But I was so worried. You know about normal mom things too. Like, oh, how am I gonna stay up all night? Or, you know, how am I going to take care of the baby, but but also, how am I going to take care of the baby and keep my sugar's under control and with the kind of the perk of being a high risk pregnancy as you get a lot of ultrasounds. And so that was fun to be able to see him a lot. But then every ultrasound leading into the third trimester was like, Oh, he is a really big baby. Oh, he's getting bigger, bigger. I'm like,

Scott Benner 52:16
my vagina is not that big. What are we doing? Let's stop now.

Adriana 52:21
Yeah, how big is he going to be? And of course, Google is the worst thing for first time moms. I, I had a friend Tell me Don't Google anything. And then of course, you know, you do a little bit and because just trying to see how much your baby's supposed to gain weight. And that third trimester because it's like a half a pound almost every week and the last couple weeks. And I'm like, oh, and he's already eight pounds. How? How many more weeks? Can we go?

Scott Benner 52:53
What's the scariest thing you googled while you were pregnant? That the thing that you just really read and thought I shouldn't have done this?

Adriana 53:03
Um, probably, anytime you look up like symptoms like this, this was after pregnancy once I had one. And I, you know, he just I think he was teething for the first time. And I didn't know what was going on. And he was having diarrhea and use fever. And he was super whiny. And so you look up all those symptoms, and which I should know better because I work in a clinic, but I'm like, Oh, he's he has cancer. You know, it's ridiculous.

Scott Benner 53:34
Right? Yeah, I hear that. Well, I just go with what happens to a vagina during childbirth. And let me just tell you don't Google that either.

Unknown Speaker 53:42
I could have told you that.

Scott Benner 53:43
Yeah. You know, it's like, as I was typing, I was like, Is this just for funny? Or am I really not gonna want to Oh, goodness. And then I read the first thing and I thought, yeah, no, I don't want to know any of that. Okay, that's enough. Now I hear you, there's this and there's, there's time to be informed and there's time to not worry yourself in diabetes and and every other aspect, especially raising kids, and I hear what you're saying, like the worry that you're just gonna mess it up, in a myriad of ways is real. The pressure like, Am I going to be a good parent? Like, I know, I'm not going to be but how is it and then you start thinking, I'm gonna mess something up. And I tell you to get to existential for a second, but I feel like I'm a pretty good parent. But still, I know that right now, today, or yesterday, or next week, or last month, I've done something that my kids or my wife don't enjoy, and I don't know what they are, because I'm doing my very best, you know, and so that even that's a weird pressure like always thinking about, you know, I'm trying to help these people or support them. Love them. And I wonder what I'm doing that they're just like privately in their minds thinking, idiot, get away from me. You're completely doing this wrong.

Adriana 54:59
My husband And I, the first week, once we had Owen home, he was like, he's alive, he's breathing. He was fed, we're doing fine.

Unknown Speaker 55:10
You know,

Adriana 55:10
there's not much more you can ask for. And as long as he's breathing and alive and loved, then there's not much else you can do each day. And honestly, that's kind of what got us by because those first, really the first month or two with a newborn, it was hard. It was hard work. But, of course, I would say it's worth it. And of course, as we've been talking, it sounds like I'm gonna do it again. But

Scott Benner 55:37
we have no choice, really. But I hear what you're saying. And yeah. When you say it got hard, what happens to you, when you're trying to make space and time for other things when you stop taking the same care of yourself, because I lamented with Jenny yesterday, that the thing that I worry about most for pregnant women is that as soon as something gets tough after the baby comes, the first thing they give away is their own health. not recognizing in the moment, I think that keeping that that health where it's at will benefit so many other things, you probably should cut something else away, then you know, the concern for your own health. But when it happens to everybody, even people without diabetes, I've done it, you know, you don't sleep as much as you should, in the pursuit of taking care of somebody else. And a number of other other situations where people give away a little bit of who they are to be there for someone else. But when it comes to diabetes, it feels very dire to me when I think about it. But But what was the first thing that happened? Was it making meals that were good for you? Was it Pre-Bolus Singh? Was it even just paying attention when your blood sugar was high? Because if I can be honest with you for a second, not that I haven't been so far. But the idea that your pump ran out of insulin while you were sleeping, and that you did not spring up and change it. I guarantee you sounds like a different story to parents of type one diabetics than it does to adults who have type one diabetes, I bet you those two different groups of people heard that story two different ways. You know, it's interesting for me to hear your perspective as a person living with it. So I don't know what I just asked there. But I'm just very interested in how that happens. And if you know what's happening while you're doing it, if you're like, Oh, I'm giving up a little myself here for somebody else, or is it not that conscious?

Adriana 57:40
Yeah, and just even kind of re hearing that two out of your words like, yeah, if that if Owen was diabetic, and he needed that insulin pump change, I would have done it right then and there. Yeah. So it, it is interesting to think that way, like I would care for my child right on the spot. But if it's for me, then it it does wait maybe an hour or two.

Scott Benner 58:02
And, and you're a bright person, and you're well educated and you care about your health and everything. What happens in those two hours? Like, are you just like, you playing games on your phone? Or are you busy or like you don't mean like, what's stopping you from going, because I'm not a great time manager. But the one thing that I do well, is that I, I prioritize on the go. So I have a way that I think of the things that are going to get done today or or even thought about. And as soon as something becomes more important than the other thing. I I slide those things and change positions in my, in my mind, and I don't think twice about like, Okay, this is more important. Now this moves here. What happens to me what happens to you in that time?

Unknown Speaker 58:48
Um,

Adriana 58:48
I would say that my family always would say that I am willing to give up a lot of things for other people. I am a caretaker, I will take care of somebody else first, because I know that I'm fine. And those two hours I know, okay, my sugar's a little higher, but

Unknown Speaker 59:09
I'm okay.

Adriana 59:11
And, you know, I'm up and moving. I'm trying to, you know, get things ready for the morning and trying to get my baby cleaned and dressed and fed. And, but I knew, even though I knew I needed to get a new insulin pump on, like, I knew that I was fine. At least for the time being, I knew i'm not i'm not going to leave the house without getting my insulin pump on because that is a priority before I leave because I want you know, I want that insulin or want, like, extra snacks or something to bring my sugar up because I want to be prepared that way. But I I'm a mom, and so I'm taking care of my house and my family first and and, you know, I knew that I would get to it. And I knew I'd have time to sit down and get to it. But I just

Scott Benner 1:00:07
I'm not coming down. I hope you realize like, I'm not judging you. I'm really just interested because I hope you can feel that. Yeah. Yeah. Good, good, good. Yeah, I listen. I hear what you're saying, I the sprinklers on the other day, and I only want to leave it on for 30 minutes. And I was like, I don't feel like going back outside. And I could feel the money like leaving my pocket. And you know, it's not health, but it was still I was just like, what is this gonna cost me five more dollars not to get up right now and turn off that thing? Maybe? I don't know. Yeah, I was tired. And, and I do think if it was my own health, I would react differently than I do about Ardennes. And I don't even know what that says. Like, I would die. You know, I would consider myself a person who has a caregivers mentality as well. But I would tell you that over the years, it's become evident to me that there were some things I gave away, that I didn't have to give as much of it away, there would have been a way for me to manage other people's needs and mind better. It didn't have to be. It was it didn't have to be an all or nothing scenario. That that's Yeah, I think if I were to give you one piece of advice, I would tell you, I don't think it's an all or nothing. The way you're thinking about it. That's all there. That's what I got out of the extra 20 years I've lived in you have. Yeah, you would think I would have learned more than that in 20 years. But that's pretty much all I have to say.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:34
Oh, well. Thank

Unknown Speaker 1:01:35
you. Yeah, seriously?

Adriana 1:01:37
Yeah, it is something. Of course, you know, we're always trying to progress and improve and But yeah, I think slowly, but surely, I'm learning and learning to to delegate and say, Hey, you know, Chris, can you can you feed around because I need to, you know, eat something or I need to change my insulin pump. So yeah, there's, you know, it's kind of even almost the same mentality of when we had open as a newborn, like, Hey, we're alive, we're breathing, we're doing okay. is kind of almost sometimes how I feel like with diabetes, like, Hey, I got my sugars, you know, pretty well controlled today. I ate today. So we're good. But, but, you know, each state has its own struggles.

Scott Benner 1:02:25
I cannot say that. I don't understand what you're saying. I want you to know that other people listening are really impressed. And I'm probably just hanging on now through the the end of the hour. Because they're like, Scott didn't even ask her about her magic underwear at all. Which is something excuse me, which is something that I have. I you know, it's funny, my wife doesn't listen to the to my podcast, or me, in case you're wondering. And we were talking the other day, and I said, I have somebody coming on, you know, tomorrow that I'm going to interview. She's younger. She's a kid. And she asked how old you were. And I told her, and she just oh, that's that's not you know, we were young like that. And I said, Oh, yeah. I said, She's a Mormon. She's got to get going. She needs like, 20 more kids. And she goes, really? And I said, Yeah, I said, I said, a lot of people who are in the Mormon religion end up on the podcast, my wife goes, really? And I was like, he she goes, why? And I'm, like I said, I couldn't begin to tell you, I asked every one of them and they don't seem to know. And so we started, we were talking about it for a minute. And she's just like, that's really interesting. And I said, Yeah, I said, I learned a lot of things. I don't, you know, I wouldn't normally know I said, You know, I said I ask every one of them about their magic underwear. And now my wife's face turns blank, because she does not know what I'm talking about, and is probably 100% sure, I'm thinking when I'm looking at her, that if there is such a thing, I mischaracterizing it or giving it a name that doesn't completely consulting to other people. And she's like, you do not say that other people. And I was like, wait, what are you talking about? I said, first of all, people who are involved in the Mormon religion have better underwear than we do. That's just a fact. And secondly, I think it's magical. I can't say for sure, but I've heard stories. And so why would I not ask people and my wife is real serious. She goes, why would you ask them? That's the wrong thing to ask them. And I said, I think you and I have a very different idea of what these podcasts should be about. She's like, obviously, that's like,

Unknown Speaker 1:04:24
Oh,

Scott Benner 1:04:24
is it comfy? It looks comfy. Is it comfy? Are you wearing it? Now? Tell me please.

Adriana 1:04:29
Yes, of course. I wear it every day. But, you know, obviously I have different pairs. You know, just like, I hope everyone does

Unknown Speaker 1:04:38
the same pair every day. Well, thank goodness.

Adriana 1:04:42
Let's clarify that.

Scott Benner 1:04:43
When do you get it when you're married? You don't have it before? Right?

Adriana 1:04:47
Um, well, it depends on each person, okay. In our religion, so if you see, like our temples, there's a process called the endowment And so we get to go to the temple and we get to, that's when we get to get our garments and we make promises to our Heavenly Father and

Scott Benner 1:05:12
in exchange, that's lovely, real tangible thing to take with your life. In other religions they give you like flowers or, you know, they'll rub some like schmutz on your forehead or something like that. You can't do anything with that everyone needs underwear. And it's called, they're called God, you refer to them as garments, though, is that right? Yes, they

Adriana 1:05:33
are gardeners and, and we do wear them every day. Of course, you know, if we're going to go swimming or something, then we don't wear them, but, or, you know, any activity, like if I'm going to go, like, sometimes we go out mudding like in our trucks or something, then, you know, I don't want to get them dirty. But if, if there's a time and place to wear them, then I wear them. But we do wear them. Because, you know, rather than flowers or something because it is supposed to help us remember those promises that we made. And so it's, it's kind of like, you know, you have a special like your wedding ring to remember. You know, your marriage and all of that. And so it's it's basically like that, and, and I'm probably, you know, butchering exactly the right,

Scott Benner 1:06:25
you're not you're not a spokesperson for the church, I'm just getting your opinion. Here's what I'm thinking while you're talking. They made it underwear so that when you were thinking of having sex with a boy, it'd be the last thing you saw before you were naked, you'd be like, Oh, I did make some promises, they would just want to remind you of those promises. Right before you know your boobs are out, I think is exactly what this was about for boy's penis, but you understand what I'm saying? I do have one question. And this is going to need you to infer into my stupidity. Why do I think they're magical? What did I hear once that makes me say that? Or do you have no idea?

Adriana 1:07:04
Well, you know, I've heard stories, but of course, it's it's stories, and I don't I don't know the truth to them. Because I don't know when, like, someone's specific to me with a story. But I've had I've heard stories that people you know, how I was riding my motorcycle, and I fell, I got in a crash and I fell off. But everywhere else got skinned up, but where I was wearing my garments, and I'm like, where you can say because we're pulled, you know, we wear them to be protected. Because we you know, we made promises and we and to have faith and but it's I almost I look at it more as to remember what I've promised not as a protection, necessarily. But so I wouldn't, I wouldn't say they're magical, but I would say you know, they they helped me keep the kind of mindset I want to have

Scott Benner 1:08:04
that makes sense. And listen, I've googled magic underwear while we're talking and interesting. Temple garments come right up. But here's what I've learned. And I'm gonna be serious. There's Wikipedia stuff, but then there's also you know, there's some people saying look, please don't call it magic underwear. It's insulting and it's like, Oh, damn, alright, well, it's too late. Now we've already recorded my voice saying that and and going on, but it did come back to it. I'm not the only person who's ever said this out loud, obviously, because I got enough returns. I also got a couple of lovely pictures of G strings and something called the shape mint. Empty tattooed all day, everyday high waisted waistband, which I don't think is Mormon. But the girl does look kind of magical in them. And but it's uh, you know, it's just really, I don't know, like I find it fascinating and not in a way that I really probably shouldn't be joking around because I don't feel jokey about it. It really is just something I don't understand. And I'm always looking and by the way I've asked six people now and six different people said six different things so I'm just saying I need to find out this is it this is my only way to find out my wife of course if she could hear me right now it'd be like leave that woman alone. Why are you

Unknown Speaker 1:09:23
bothering

Adriana 1:09:24
Well, I will I will tell you this because you know i think you know it is up to each interpretation but if you if you want to really know like the church's stance on I mean, I should have a better a better verbiage for you about it,

Scott Benner 1:09:42
but you got a little kid you got diabetes. Don't put that on yourself. Seriously, am I making you feel bad about this? Let's stop. Oh, no. Okay, no,

Adriana 1:09:50
I'm just like, I should know better because but i do i. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is the church you know their website. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints does have a cool little video that really does show the garments and explains what they are. So I mean, if you, if somebody is really curious, or they have a video about it, they're not secret.

Scott Benner 1:10:15
Let's see why they think they were secret.

Adriana 1:10:18
Well, that's the other thing I've heard from people is like, Oh, it's, there's things that are secret and like, no,

Scott Benner 1:10:24
you're not telling anybody about them? Well, not. No, not everybody can see it. But still, it's you know. Yeah.

Adriana 1:10:32
I mean, I'm not gonna tell somebody what color of underwear I'm wearing. You know, just if I wasn't wearing garments, you know, it's just

Scott Benner 1:10:39
be private. Yeah. There's nothing to say there. I hear you. Yeah. All right. Listen, we've learned a lot and nothing. And that makes this a perfect podcast episode. It really does. I want to make sure. Is there anything that we didn't talk about that you were hoping to talk about? Because I'm, you know, a babbling lunatic. So sometimes it's not. I'm not very good at getting through things, but anything at all? No, I

Adriana 1:11:06
feel like that's a pretty good, pretty good explanation of diabetes and me and kind of, yeah, it's just day to day.

Scott Benner 1:11:17
Cool that night. I appreciate that. I feel like here's what we learned. If I were to sum up this episode, you found out you were a type on when you're 18. They thought it was type two for about a year you took Metformin figured it out wasn't that much relief, because it felt more like oh, wow, like, this is not something I can really impact and make go away. You met a boy on Tinder. He said something nice that made you think he wasn't just a muscle head? Then you gave him your babymaker and you're working on it. Now you got one go and probably 10 or 12. More coming? your underwear is not magical. But hey, if you fall and don't get scratched underneath it, what's it hurt to say if it is, and diabetes is difficult while you're pregnant is difficult while you're raising a baby. But you're trying to get things in better order for yourself. So you can be a mom for your children for a long time. How'd I do?

Adriana 1:12:12
You know, that pretty sums up our conversation. No, I

Scott Benner 1:12:14
did it. are you right now? Like I can't believe he was listening cuz it seems like he's

Adriana 1:12:22
when you say all like that, like, Oh, that's really what we all talked about.

Scott Benner 1:12:27
And by the way, we'll leave this part in for people who always ask me how come the episodes titles aren't about what it was about? So you tell me what should I What should I title this episode? I know why you laughed because you just thought magic underwears that why

Unknown Speaker 1:12:44
exactly.

Adriana 1:12:47
That would be good. But no, no, it's not. It's well, because when I first contacted you, I I was trying to start kind of a blog of my own which then I realized being a mom with a little kid and working through COVID it's that didn't work out. Yeah, no, no What time is short. But um, but I'm a Latter Day diabetic and that's that's who I am.

Scott Benner 1:13:17
Latter Day diabetic is probably going to be the name of the episode. That was very good. That's it. But now of course, you have to understand now that in my more Honestly, I'm like ladder with D's or T's. I'll figure it out later.

Adriana 1:13:32
latter tees, but yeah, yeah. So yeah, it was great. Though, thank

Scott Benner 1:13:39
you very much. Hey, if I come to Utah, or my politics so like, they will they like just push me back out of the state? Or is there a forcefield that I'll run into for having no being liberal or anything like that or no? Right now, although now they're really conservative people listening, you're like, Oh, I'm sorry. You have plenty What?

Adriana 1:14:01
I was just gonna say the more and more people I see move in are actually from California. And there's this like, ongoing joke of people moving in and they're like Utah, and they have like the shape of Wyoming. They're like, move to Utah, and they're trying to push them over to Wyoming.

Scott Benner 1:14:18
Alright, hippies, I'm on the way, don't worry about it. I'll come. We'll balance this all up. It's so funny. Because when we're just now when I was talking, I thought there are five of I don't I never think about the political leanings of people listening to the show. I have no concern about it, and I don't care. And I do think that if you listen to me, I don't probably feel very liberal. And it's funny, I'm not, but I really am. And so I'm very liberal about some things and I wouldn't call myself conservative about anything, but I have more conservative ideas about things that you wouldn't expect maybe. I'm sure a lot of people can, you know, talk about themselves, and probably Feel like the idea of like, I'm really kind of down the middle on most, you know stuff overall. But yeah, I get worried about that sometimes like, I'm like, if I go there, well, they just Can they see it on me or will they? Can they smell it?

Unknown Speaker 1:15:13
Oh no,

Scott Benner 1:15:15
that guy probably voted for a democrat once we got to get requests. You know, like and then I find myself like in some desert in Utah being eaten by snakes. By the way, are there snakes there that are poisonous?

Adriana 1:15:27
Um, we got rattlesnake.

Scott Benner 1:15:28
I can't. I'm sorry. I thought this was gonna be a real idea. But I see now I can't. And I'm out bears. rattlesnakes, humidity, snow. These are things I need to avoid. I'm delicate.

Adriana 1:15:42
Yeah, we don't have humidity here. So you won't get that. But we do got bears and mountain lions. And

Scott Benner 1:15:48
so I gotta have a gun. Like just to walk outside at night.

Adriana 1:15:53
Hope sometimes when you're in the mountains, but

Unknown Speaker 1:15:57
yeah,

Scott Benner 1:15:59
I'd have to figure out how to shoot a gun first, then. There's a lot to do.

Adriana 1:16:03
You come to Utah. I'll teach you how to shoot again.

Scott Benner 1:16:06
Well, yeah, that's a nice that That's lovely. I'm gonna make sure your blood sugar's nice and stable. First, I don't want you out there. 350 showing me how to shoot a gun. I'll be like, Adrian, how long is that pod? been on? It's been on the whole time. How's it before we start? How do you feel, by the way, after an hour to get your blood sugar back down? You feel better?

Adriana 1:16:24
Um, you know, my blood sugar is still a little higher than I want it. But, you know, it does feel good to. I can always feel People always ask me like, how do you feel when your sugar is high? And I'm like, there's not really a good answer for that. But the best way that I feel is like, that sour stomach kind of feeling. And, you know, maybe just not. Yeah, that. And just not completely in my head, like, kind of that foggy feeling. But Well, listen, here's

Scott Benner 1:16:55
a practical idea for you that I use when I didn't bring it up at the time, because we didn't know each other well enough an hour ago. But now I feel like I've seen your underwear. So we're good. And I would have put well seen, you know, by understanding the greater picture, you understand what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, you made me embarrassed, I can't even say what I was gonna say is I would have slapped that pod on. And I would have like doubled the basil for Arden for like an hour. Right away. And Bolus a correction for the number. And maybe like even a little more like I would have crushed it like because a new insulin pump site sometimes is not as you know, effective as it as it will be in an hour or two or a day. So I kind of pushed more insulin in that scenario, especially with the number in the 300 I would have pushed hard and drinking water. You should be hydrating to get that out of you. And you're an adult and don't need me to tell you any of that. But that's the things that like I would have done for the people listening Oh, yeah, please. Alright, listen, this has to stop or you and I are gonna strike up some toward online affair. And we already know we can, you can be had through an app. So I don't want to ruin your beard or mine or anything like that. It's very nice, very much to me December to being that you're basically a child and I'm almost a senior citizen. So I really appreciate you coming on and doing this. I genuinely do. A huge thanks to Adriana for coming on the show. And adding to that ever growing list of Mormons that have been on the Juicebox Podcast. If you'd like to be on the podcast and you think you have a great story to tell, reach out, find me Scott at Juicebox Podcast calm. And if you're a Mormon, and you know why this show is so popular in Utah and within your community, please, I want to know Thanks so much to Dexcom on the pod and touched by type one for sponsoring this episode of the Juicebox Podcast Get yourself a free no obligation demo of the Omni pod tubeless insulin pump app my Omni pod comm forward slash juice box and check out that dexcom@dexcom.com forward slash juice box. If you can't remember that there are links in your show notes and links at Juicebox podcast.com. And don't forget touched by type one at touched by type one.org or on your social medias, Facebook and Instagram. Thank you so much for listening. be back soon with the next episode of the Juicebox Podcast. I genuinely appreciate you listening. I love it. When you tell somebody else about the show. Please subscribe and an app. And what else? Oh, if you're really into management stuff, check out the private facebook page Juicebox Podcast, type one diabetes. And if you just want to keep up with the show on Facebook, it's bold with insulin and Of course, I'm on Instagram at Juicebox Podcast. I feel like I'm on a roll. So if you're looking for those diabetes pro tip episodes, they're right there in your podcast player, they begin at Episode 210, where you can find them at diabetes pro tip com, looking for defining diabetes there in your app as well. Just search defining diabetes, they'll all pop up. And if they don't, you can find them at Juicebox Podcast comm too. All right, that's it. It's the beginning of the year. I'm super excited for season seven to be going on. I hope you're enjoying it. It's gonna. It's gonna be great. Why would I say otherwise? you imagined I was like, Whoa, season seven. train wreck. It's on the way people stay stay. But it's not. I got good stuff coming. You want to know what? All right. Um, no, I'm not doing that. Although I am looking right now, at the next three episodes. And they got goodness written all over him. You want like a sneak peek? Hmm, maybe? Maybe? Well, I won't I write one little tease. You know how we always have adults on her like I was diagnosed with type two diabetes. And it turned out I was type one. You know, and they're like 25 and 28. And everything. Soon, someone's coming on who was diagnosed with type two diabetes and had type two diabetes. Have some stuff coming up about a service dog with Esther. And Jaden is going to be on the show very soon. James young man who I just recorded with, and his episode is terrific. I can't wait for you to I'm going to give you that one next week. How about next week? We do Jaden and the service dog episode, or do we want to do the type two? I don't know. I'll figure it out. So

I'm still here. I didn't go anywhere. The hours mean nothing anymore. days are blending together. I don't even care what time it is. Stuck in my house. Has nothing to do whole worlds upside down. All right. That was a bummer. Should we do something fun at the end? Why don't we make fart noises together. I'll count the three. And then we'll all make a fart noise. So wherever you are right now, you're in the grocery store, or your kitchen or driving in your car. I don't care. Now just lick the palm of your hand. Like if you're in the grocery store, maybe don't like the palm of your hand. Just but I mean, you know what live dangerously so you lick the palm of your hand. And then just press it up against your mouth and it only works with really need two hands. Hold on. Sorry. I tried it with one hand that did not work. I'm going again. If you did that, seek mental health counseling. You really shouldn't be listening that closely to a guy on a podcast. Although if he did it You're my people.