#248 Meaningful Connections
Scott Benner
Debra is the Wizard of Positive…
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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello and welcome to Episode 240 248. Wow, is that right? may look. Hello and welcome to Episode 248 of the Juicebox Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by Omni pod Dexcom and dancing for diabetes, you can go to my Omni pod comm forward slash juice box dancing the number for diabetes.com or dexcom.com forward slash juice box to learn more. Well, this doesn't happen very often, but I'm giving you an episode on the day it was recorded. It's not with like a company like not like newsworthy, time sensitive stuff. This episode is with Deborah. And Deborah has a daughter with Type One Diabetes, a son who has autism, and a father who has Alzheimer's. When Debra wrote me to tell me about her positive attitude. I thought I want to find out more about that. And then she came on today and if this is perfect, so we've been talking about management for a while and hearing people's diabetes stories. Let's hear something upbeat. Something that's still helpful about living with type one, but at the same time, maybe not. So Management Center. Let's call this episode like you know that sorbet you get before dinner to cleanse your palate. And then we'll jump right back into more diabetes pro tips with Jenny. And people's stories that are a little more diabetes centric. Not that this isn't. But this conversation just I don't know. It was really kind of beautiful. I really enjoyed it. I felt like I was in therapy. But my therapist was a friend. Please remember that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. And always consult a physician before becoming bold with insulin or making any changes
Unknown Speaker 1:45
to your health
Deborah 1:46
care plan. I'm actually at Rutgers right now.
Unknown Speaker 1:52
Are you really what are you doing there?
Deborah 1:54
I dropped Juliet off at the is through Camp ninjetta. It's like a it's like a day camp. Yeah, for for diabetes, or type one. And I actually went to I went to you know, I graduated from so I always get very nostalgic being here. But she's at the camp right now. So I'm just, you know, I'm going to I'm going to hang out today round this. Yeah, like just kind of walk through the old, old classes. And you know, I mean, after we talk, I'm going to go to my favorite Thai place in Highland Park. That's excellent. Good for Yeah, right. Okay, head I'm sorry.
Scott Benner 2:29
No, don't be sorry. My son has a played baseball at Rutgers a number of times. So I'm familiar with the area right there.
Deborah 2:36
Yeah, well, I met Yeah, I mean, Rutgers. I don't know. I love it here. My husband went here to we both went here and I'm right in front of Amman, Douglas campus right now. But um, I don't know if you're familiar. It's like by Douglas. It's just so pretty here. But it just brings back a lot of a lot of memories.
Scott Benner 2:56
my niece's. My niece is an incoming Junior, I think at Rutgers.
Deborah 3:00
Oh, at Rutgers. Oh, I think it's such a great, like even when, like it's I loved, loved it. I loved I loved school here. I hated high hated High School of school. But loved love college. Like every you know, everyone was different and, and it was liberating.
Scott Benner 3:21
When is the last time you went to dancing for diabetes.com? Or check them out on Instagram or Facebook? If you haven't done in a while, I think now's the time. Unless you're driving and then wait. I mean, finish the podcast because it's gonna get really cool. And like in depth, and I mean, you just gonna love depper by the time this is over and her stories about her father and kids, it's, it's all incredibly heartwarming. But then have your heart rewarmed later today dancing for diabetes.com we're on their Facebook page, or their Instagram account. That's all I got for you.
Deborah 3:59
My name is Deborah. And I have a little girl with type one. And I'm really grateful to be on this. This podcast.
Scott Benner 4:08
Oh, thank you. Your email caught my attention. Because it was just it was it was like my father has this. My daughter has this my son, I was like, wow, like, and then at the end you're like and I have a really good like, you know, overall outlook. And I said, well that that I want to hear about so tell me tell me a little bit about your your daughter's diagnosis. How old was she? How long ago was it?
Deborah 4:33
Well, so she she was just diagnosed a year ago. But Juliet was diagnosed a year ago. He we were actually in Princeton, and I took the kids to see the Wizard of Oz. And she got up four times to pay. And I actually got a little annoyed with her. I thought she was just like bored. And I tend to stay I feel terrible. But I actually like Juliet. I know you're bored. But you know your brother and I are watching this. And she's like, no, I really Have to go. And, and, and she really was going, but then I thought, you know, maybe she's got a bladder infection, you know, so I said, is it doesn't hurt? And she's like, No, not at all. And so that was like the first my first moment of awareness and then over the next couple of weeks, you know, she was just drinking a lot and eating a lot and I, so I took her, I took her to the, to the doctor, for what I thought was maybe a urinary tract infection, but I really wasn't worried because healthy and happy and frozen, eating and just doing very well. Yeah, just exactly. just just just paying a little extra and I thought, okay, it's June it's hot out. But, you know, long story short, she eaten the cup, and the doctor walked in. He sent us to the emergency room. And it was like a it was like a kind of like a moment like, like a like her lips were moving. But I just, you know, I you know, I it was it was very bizarre.
Scott Benner 6:05
It's like a movie, right? Like, everything sort of goes blank and you hear kind of a deafening ringing in your ears and nothing's quite getting through to your brain. And yeah, you're thinking I just thought she had to pay. That's weird. Yeah. Now there's this much larger thing. I hope you understand that. Even though you didn't say it. Deborah, you've already named this episode because I'm pretty close to going with.
I'm pretty close to going with she was off to take a wizard.
Unknown Speaker 6:39
I love it. I love it
Scott Benner 6:40
as you were saying it. Like there's a five year old little boy inside of me trying not to giggle through what you were talking. I was like, oh my god. During the Wizard of Oz, why are we
Deborah 6:50
beautiful. I love it. I love it. Oh, that's that's so that's great. That's so great. I love it.
Scott Benner 6:56
So it knocks you over I imagine Did you you call your husband right away? You just go to the ER?
Deborah 7:01
Yeah, no, I did. I did. We were admitted. next four days. And it's like, we had a whole learn a whole new language. I actually handled it very well initially. No, I, my husband, was he you know, he, it was harder for him. I feel like for me, it came later, like, three months or even two months later, that's when it kind of hit me. And I'm like, wow, this is hard. Yeah, this is this is really overwhelming. Because I you know, I had mentioned my son has autism. And that, that that's, that's been that's been to me, they're they're both very difficult just in different ways. You know, I'm such a connector, what what makes life worth living to me is the connections that that you make with people and you know, meaningful connections. And so it's a little harder to connect with my son even though he's you know, considered highly functioning very verbal. You know, I mean, he's, you would love him. He's very, very quirky he has, he's obsessed with air conditioners, drains, vents, garbage disposals, but it's hard to connect with him, like emotionally, you know, he's and so that's, that's that. That's been very hard for. But in the same breath, also my greatest teacher, and so is Juliet. And so is my dad. And it sounds so cliche ish. But there really are silver linings in, you know, to every cloud there. And it sounds like it sounds very cliche ish. But I do think that there's, there's beauty in pain.
Scott Benner 8:32
It's I don't think it's cliched at all, to think that more difficult existences open up perspective on things that people who don't run into those problems, you know, don't they don't get to see those things. And there's little moments and teachable ideas and things that kind of hit you like, Wow, I can't believe I didn't notice this about the world before. And it does open up, you know, one side gets, doesn't get closed off, it gets maybe slowed down, or it's not exactly what you want it to be. It's almost like you know, your TV was not the brightness all the way up. And but then all this other stuff opens up. And if you allow them all to blend together, you end up with more than you would have had.
Deborah 9:15
You're so right. And I think if someone were to say to me, you know, 15 years ago, before I was married and had kids, if they've, they're gonna say you're gonna have a father with all time or son with autism, a daughter with type one I probably, you know, would not have had children, I probably would have taken a different path, but I'm so glad I did. I'm so glad I did. I did have you know, like I didn't know like, because life is is it's richer, and it's more meaningful. You know? Like, I'm glad that no one told me that because it really is richer.
Scott Benner 9:48
Again, perspective, the EU back then would have known what the EU now knows and you would have made the best decision you could have at the moment it would have in your you know, in your retrospective Look, it would have been wrong, you know, right. I get it. And at the same time, I would tell you that I thought we were probably going to have three kids until Arden was diagnosed and it slowed us down. You know, like it was hard to, in those, you know, initial years, it was, you know, we were so overwhelming, I didn't have a, you know, I didn't have anywhere to go to find out about all the things that were going wrong, we just, they'd go wrong over and over and over again. And you just beat your head against the wall, trying to figure out how to fix it. And the tech, the technology was terrible, then and then not terrible, but it was a meter and like, you know, needles, so you were just like, let's see what we got here with this.
Deborah 10:38
I know. And I and I know that you hear this all the time. But I do want to thank you, because you're you're really doing something wonderful for the community. And, you know, you're really making type one, not as scary. And, you know, you you have found this method, and you have well, you have found ways in technology, your your, you know, really paving the way to make this more manageable. And just, you know, so I, you know, I really appreciate what you're what you're doing. I know you hear this a lot, but it's very good. You're you're making a difference, you know, like you really are,
Scott Benner 11:12
I can't tell you that. hearing it over and over again. It doesn't get old. And I don't mean from my perspective, I mean, because, you know, I was You caught me on a day where I was doing sort of paperwork this morning, and I'm corresponding with different people. And one of them is the initial person who, at Omni pod who heard my pitch about, you know, this is what I want to do with this podcast, and but I need you, I need you to support it before it has any listeners and, and you know, I need you to put ads on it when I can't promise anybody's gonna hear them. But here's what I want to do. And here's what I think it can do. And I was commiserating with her because we were i'd shared a note from one of you guys with her. And I told her I was like, Look, this is you did this as much as anyone else, you know, like, You're the one who after I had made that pitch to every person at every pharma company I'd ever bumped into. And if that person lost their job, and somebody else got hired, I'd find that person and pitch them again, over and over and over again, the person or the person that on the pod that heard me was the third person in a decade to hold that job. And they finally heard me and I was like, here's what I think I can do with this podcast. And, and that it worked is amazing. But as I was writing or the note, and I told her how many people downloaded the podcast in the first 12 months of the show. And then I shared with her that in the month we're in now four times as many people have that have downloaded the show this month, as did the first year.
Unknown Speaker 12:46
Wow, that's incredible. I was like,
Scott Benner 12:48
I think we're on like, a precipice here. Like, I think we can blow this up to the point where this doesn't just reach. You know, the people who listen to podcasts and those people that they talk to, like, I think I could make this bigger. You know what I mean? Like so, I'm really excited. I really
Deborah 13:04
Oh, no, no, no, I'm sorry, I interrupted you. No, no, no, I
Scott Benner 13:08
believe in the next couple of years if I can get this to the point where people have access to it if they want it earlier on in their diagnosis, and really try to shorten the painful part.
Deborah 13:20
That's That's incredible. And it you know, it takes a village and amazing when you have a group of people that come together for a cause I've seen it and I'm living it you know, I really believe in the in the power of our intentions and our thoughts. So that's that's, that's really beautiful.
Scott Benner 13:37
88% of surveyed on the pod users agree that the Omni pod to boost insulin pump makes living with diabetes easier. I have not been surveyed, but add me to that list. Make it 88% of users and 100% of Scott. But you're gonna want to know why I say that. Well, it all starts with the company, right? It's a well run company. So my customer service experiences are good. I get product when I need it. It's not a problem. And then from there, we're talking about putting the pump on filling it. inserting it it's easy, it's quick, really quick, like I can pitstop a pod and like a minute and a half middle of the night. It's easy. Fill the syringe fill the pot, stick it on push a button self insert done from there bolusing Temp Basal is everything you do with your insulin pump is simple, nice user interface on the PDM screen. Easy. I don't have to carry around anything with me right my daughter's not strapped to up insulin pump but they don't. My daughter is not strapped to an insulin pump at the end of a bunch of tubing. That is easy. I can swim with it. I don't have to take it off to take a shower a bath. Easy, easy, easy. And then when it's time to change it again. We're back where we started. Add an E Fill an insertion process, those 88% or 100%, right? The only thing left for you to do is find out if I'm telling the truth. And that's easy to do. Because Omni pod offers a free, no obligation demo, go to my Omni pod.com forward slash juice box, fill in the tiniest bit of information. And Omni pod will send the demo pod right to your house. Deborah, I couldn't agree with you more. I'm, I'm watching it, I'm watching it now. While you and I record this, where people will download the podcast then downloaded it in the first month it was out. And incredible. So cool. And the notes I got a note this morning on Facebook, I, I now have a I have a forcefield around my emotions when I read your notes, because I just I can't cry all the time all day long. I mean, so I just, I just read, like, that's really cool. I make sure to remember that this is a really new and positive experience for the person who's writing it. And I tried so hard not to just be blazor when I like I don't want to just be like, Hey, good job, you're done. Good. You know, keep going. Yeah, by using the tools that's going to work because it's the truth. Just keep going, I'll be fine. But
Deborah 16:13
no, and that's very hard. It takes a very special person to like, I'm not on on an idea I was years ago. Um, I have mixed emotions, you know, I see how credible it could be. It's just, I, I just get I get very like over what like, like you said, I you know, you want to respond. Art, you know, you want to put your heart into your responses. You don't want it to be just you know, but you can't possibly, and you have hundreds of thousands of people, you know, writing to, you know, it's it's very hard to find that balance, I
Scott Benner 16:46
guess it's there. It's difficult to like if you're if you're driving, I don't know, if you're taking a trip, and you're and you have a rope and you can pull people out of holes. But every quarter of a mile someone's in a hole there at some point. There's one person who you drive by and you go, you know what I'll call 911 for that one, because I can't stop for each one of you on never get to the end.
Deborah 17:09
Oh, absolutely. But
Scott Benner 17:10
I'm starting to think that maybe I'm not supposed to get to the end. Maybe. Maybe I'm supposed to stop at every person.
Unknown Speaker 17:17
Yeah, yeah,
Scott Benner 17:18
yeah. Maybe that's your destination. Maybe it's true. You know what I mean? So as long as I'm growing?
Deborah 17:24
Yeah, I have a magnet on my fridge. Because it's not about the destination. It's the journey, you know, to get there. Yeah. So that's, that's really wow, that's nice. Yeah, cuz I really think every person we meet and every experience we have, whether it's, quote unquote, positive or negative is, is the teacher. You know, like, I spent many years like, even in college, I put this comparative religion class, which was fascinating philosophy. I ended up studying psychology, but I found that I, you know, I was searching for like a guru. Oh, and after being faced with all these struggles, I kind of realized life is is the guru. Like every you know, autism is my teacher diabetes is my teacher, all timers, like life is our life is the teacher, every person, every experience, every you know, and then there's days where you just don't want to do it. There's days where you just you just want to, you know, you just, you just get depressed and like, I write I break I you know, and that's that's fine, too.
Scott Benner 18:21
You're just trying to live your life you don't every, every day doesn't need to be a learning experience.
Unknown Speaker 18:26
Right? Right. Exactly. And that's really
Scott Benner 18:28
what you're talking about really is the goal of the podcast is to get the the tools, the ideas, so just commonplace in your life, right? So that something happens and you just do a thing. You don't have to sit around for 15 minutes, like staring at the wall thinking like, what do I do about this blood sugar? You You want to get to the point where you look at that data, you see the experience that's happening around you with the food or what's going on, and you just go Oh, you know what, this is a Temp Basal increase. I have to do it right here. And you trust it and you do it and it works and the tools work? Yeah, I mean, like when you see a nail that needs to be hammered in. If you've got a toolbox in front of you, and you don't know to pick up the hammer, you could make yourself crazy wondering like, Is it the pliers that does it? Is it the screwdriver, like what am I gonna do, but when you can just look down, see nail grab hammer, bang, bang, bang, it's done and never think about it. That's where I'm trying to get everybody with a diabetes.
Deborah 19:18
Yes. And you and you and you're doing it for shared experiences and your own experience. You know, these podcasts do pave the way to an easier transition and experience. And you know, so I mean, I'm always sharing and sharing you diagnose I actually shared you in Wegmans the other day with a woman add her daughter has diabetes for five years. And she got very, very low and then she ate all this like a whole bunch of candy. And then he's like, oh, now she's going to be 300. I'm like, Well, why don't you just hit a Temp Basal. Like, what is that? I'm like, Oh, I'm like, Well, first of all, have you ever listened to the you know, Scott's podcast, then? No. And and now she's upset. Now she's been listening. She's like, this is amazing. And I'm so yeah, no, it's it's wonderful. Deborah
Scott Benner 20:06
had you on with the intention of telling other people how to be happy not not to make me happy, but it's going well, though. I mean, I grew six inches since you and I started talking.
Deborah 20:18
Buddy, my employer, you know, because I, I see the beauty in people and I like to share that. And my employer the other day, she's like, babe, I'm a six, you're making me out to be a 10. I'm an I'm a six. I know, I do have to kind of like, I know, I'm like, I definitely. I love to read love. And, you know, and see, you know, share with people that the good but I'm just a little,
Scott Benner 20:39
it's not too much. It's not too much. Trust me. It's not too much. I just at some point, someone's gonna be listening. Be like, Listen, he's probably a bad person in other parts of life. Like, let's let it go. Oh,
Deborah 20:51
we have our shadows.
Scott Benner 20:53
I had my moments, but I feel like I hit the main the main ones pretty well. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 20:57
Yeah. But anyway,
Scott Benner 20:58
so I wanted. So I don't know anything about autism. Okay, so I'm assuming I'm assuming your son was diagnosed before your daughter.
Deborah 21:07
Yes. I had studied psychology at Rutgers. And I actually went to dental he worked at, like the Douglas school for autism. And just very bizarre that I interned there. And 10 years later, I was touring the school for my son. And I married an engineer, my husband's an engineer, and two and a half my son was doing a lot of a lot of these engineering, like he was a key is almost like he was afraid of other children his age, he would he you know, whenever we went to a birthday party, he had under my, like, my arm, and he wanted to look at the air conditioner, wants to see the way that they worked. And he wanted to look at the garbage disposal. So when I, you know, I had some concerns, but he was talking, so that kind of threw off. And of course, you know, I also, the idea of autism at the time was just, it was very upsetting. But as time went on, became more apparent and saviors and just, you know, just that he was he was that he thought felt differently. And so I'll never forget that we went to the developmental pediatrician, and she, you know, again, just like Juliet, you know, he murmured the words, you know, your son has autism. And it's like, everything. It was like a movie screen. It was like, it was like I was with a witnessing a movie. Oh, and it, I felt like her words were very painful and almost too much to bear. But behind like, behind the movie was like a piece. And in every event in my life, whenever there's something really tragic, that's almost too much to bear. There's also like, a piece behind the tragedy. That makes sense. So it's like, I'm witnessing this movie, but I'm in the background, and I'm like, hey, it's gonna be okay. No, and I so I got the diagnosis. And then six months later, we got the diagnosis that my father had eimer. Again, same thing, it was like, as if I was witnessing, you know, this terrible horror movie, but in the background, I'm like, it's gonna be okay. It's gonna be alright. It's not to say that I didn't go through depressions through the years, you know, or I didn't go through moments or days, weeks of feeling pretty awful, because I did. But what I have found is that there's they're, like, even with so with my dad. He so my mom and dad got divorced. And I was like, the nicest divorce ever. Like as far as divorces go, and he had a long term. He was with this woman for about 25 years. And when they parted ways, that's when I started really seeing the the deficits, I would go to visit him. And one time, you know, I heard the shower on and I said, that is the shower on and he looked confused. And I went upstairs and his whole bathroom was like, flooded. And then, you know, a few weeks later, I went to visit him and I smelled something burning and he had left the remote control by the stove. And I said, Dad, what's what's going on? What you know, you left the remote control and then then he had gotten into the, the icing, you know, after so then he got into two car accidents. And thank God, they were just fender benders. That's when my aunt and I got involved. I'm an only child. And we took him we have a we have a Oh my God, why is the name escaping me? It's a neuro pro doctor. neurologist. neurologist. Yes, we so my aunt, my my aunt, her husband's brother's in Belgium. And we went to two neurologists, and did brain scans and a whole bunch of testing and they said that he has, you know, he has all timers and
so my dad was a very smart man, he had a master's in quantitative analysis, I don't even know what that means. He owned his own CPA firm for 30 years very, he was a mediator, he was a really smart, intelligent, you know, good hearted man, you know, a good a great listener. But he, you know, he was he was busy a lot when I was growing up, he was he was always at the office. And so when he got sick and sort of needed me more, and, you know, growing up, he was my hero, every every little girl like their daddies are usually their heroes. And then when I turned like, 1819, I'm like, but you know, I, I went through a little bit of a rebellious, rebellious stage where I felt a little angry with him. And then when I became a parent, myself, I realized, you know, this is hard. Sometimes it's easier to be like, at work, you know, like, this is really hard stuff. parenting, you know, the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. So, you know, becoming a parent made me grow in compassion. And he did a lot of good for a lot of people. So I feel like his all timers really bridge the gap between us. And, you know, we got, we got very close, and it slowed him down. And I remember this one moment, we're walking through this garden, because he had, he had to go into an assisted living facility, which is right by my house, and I visit him every day. And we're going through this garden. And I said to my dad, you know, what's the greatest thing you've ever done that he's, you know, he's traveled a lot. He's met a lot of interesting people. And, you know, and again, when I was younger, I didn't always feel like a priority. And he turned to me. And he said, You and that was like, a really beautiful moment, that I'm that I just, you know, hold in my heart. And he has this disease. It's sort of like a slow go by. And, you know, now he's, he's, you know, completely in a wheelchair, he's in diapers, he needs to be fed, you know, again, I'm there every day My mom is there. My mom's remarried. And her husband goes with her. I mean, it's such a beautiful, like, it's so amazing. Like, how amazing My mom is who and and her husband, but um, so it's, it's been sort of like this, like, slow goodbye. It's, it's
Unknown Speaker 27:23
a virtue.
Scott Benner 27:25
Okay, I'm sorry. No, don't be sorry. It sounds like what brought you to a place that wouldn't have happened without the Alzheimer's. It just Yeah, like maybe never gets to tell you that. And you don't get to be around him enough to see the other parts of him and
Deborah 27:39
yeah, like, it brought us closer and in ways it really like like, this is the closest I've ever felt. Yeah. Oh, and then tragedy, there's, there's also an sadness, there's also humor.
So this is this is kind of funny. But after he got the diagnosis of all timers, you know, by and my and his best friend, were like, we have to take the car keys away. You know, this is we can't have him driving around like this. And that was really, really hard. Trying to do that. So this is this is kind of silly. So we're four weeks, we're like trying, we're talking to him. We're trying to meditate The best way to, you know, take the car keys, and my husband's car broke. So we had to borrow his car for a few weeks, but
Scott Benner 28:29
he just forgot about it.
Deborah 28:31
Well, no, what ended up happening with this is it gets even funnier. So I work in any part time. I took his car into the city with me, I actually parked in the garage and after work, it was it was late, you know, so I didn't have to worry about parking Park after like five or six o'clock, you could park wherever. And so I had met up with my cousin at a restaurant and I actually parked and I actually sat at the window right in front of where the car was. And we just ordered and we're about to drink our tea. And all of a sudden I hear, boom, I look up I look out the window. My father's car is like standing straight up in the air. And, again, a movie moment. I'm just like, like, it just seems so unbelievable to me. My cousin is you know, I'm just kind of like very detached, like, I can't believe my debt. My dad's car is totaled, you know? And my cousin is he's, you know, kind of very emotional. She's like, I did you see what just happened? Oh my god, you know, and I walk outside. Some guy ran a stop sign fashion to my dad's car. And his car was fine. My dad's car was totaled. And that's how we got the car away. And we got a check from the insurance company for the car.
Scott Benner 29:48
workout in the guy didn't really hurt did any damage.
Deborah 29:51
No one was hurt. The guy in his car had like a little scratch. Or you know, like, like a little something to the bumper. Everybody was fine. It's It's great. Crazy, you know life sometimes. Ah,
Scott Benner 30:04
well, you know what you said a second ago that made me think and I could be so far off on this. And I obviously don't have any first hand knowledge but you you referred to this part of your dad's life as a as a slow goodbye. And it made me wonder if maybe with your son with the autism, if it's not just the instead of it being difficult to connect with him, I wonder if it's just a more slow connection. Like, I wonder if it's more of a slow Hello.
Deborah 30:28
It's so funny. You're saying that and you are so right on I just got the goosebumps. So I always say my dad is yes. It's like he's progressing into this other world, you know, he's he's leaving us and my son is slowly coming in taking him, you know, much longer. But he is I mean, he's, he's amazing. You know, my son, he is definitely that's another. I resisted this for many years. Like I I wanted peace and I wanted to I wanted it to be easier. And I wanted harmony, and you know, and I resisted challenges, I didn't want to deal with them. Until one day, I just, I couldn't, you know, I broke, like, his behaviors were just so challenging. I just broke and I put my hands up to the sky in the bathroom floor 3am crying out, I don't even know who just someone that you know, whatever you want to call it. And I really was sort of desperate and vulnerable and open and out of control. And it was in that moment that I just, you know, I just got the sense that my son is the past light and like, Don't Don't, don't resist this, like, face him and open yourself up. And he's that he's your teacher. Yeah. You know, he's he's the teacher.
Scott Benner 31:46
It's almost like, it's almost like the autism slows down time for him. So like things that he's getting to, he's just getting to slower. And there'll be things he probably won't get to, but because his growth will take more time. But in that, and it's hard for us when we're moving as fast as we are to want to slow down. But you describe that you only got to connect with your father because he slowed down. Yeah, you know, so. So there's, it just, it's, these two things are incongruous, right, you can't like you can't figure out diabetes. While things are happening in full speed, I think that's one of the reasons that the podcast helps is because you can listen to it while you're doing something else. So what it does is it makes more time, right? Because Because I always allude to it. And I say it just sort of in flippant ways like you know, you know, this is all happening, but you have to go to work or take care of a different child or cut your lawn, there's other things happening. But if you could really stop and step back far enough, you could see this diabetes thing and make sense of it. And really, I tell people a lot we talked about a person from on the pod earlier that supported the podcast before any but before they had any reason to the other person, if you want to thank anybody for the show ever. It's my wife, who you'll probably never hear from but who allows this time for me. Like to be a state I was a stay at home dad, right. So I got the pullback farther from the from the diabetes and take a bigger view of it. And then I got to like very slowly put together pieces. And then the pieces became ideas, those ideas became methods. And then I was able to start over about how to tell people about them. I started writing about them. I didn't find that to be as quick as I wanted it to be. So I went into the podcast, and even some of the episodes like it's me still learning how to talk to you about the things that my wife allowed me time to figure out. Right. And so that's why all this exists, whether whether you want to see it that way or not. I'm 100% positive it
Deborah 33:47
is. Oh, yes. And I actually met her and your daughter, pocket St. Peters. And that served me. Well. So beautiful. And I also want to take this opportunity to thank my husband, too, because he is an incredible man. And I you know, it's sad that sometimes in a marriage, you don't always you know, you don't always appreciate each other. But I more than ever. Now. I really do. He's He's an incredible husband and father and so devoted so hard working. And I'm very lucky. Also, to have him as a partner,
Unknown Speaker 34:25
those people like yeah, and
Scott Benner 34:27
what he's doing for you is he's he's making space he's making time. And that time you're dedicating to slowing down so that you can be with your son as he's growing, right? Like we all Is it funny we all complain all the time when we have kids. I just blinked and it went by so fast. And that's not happening to you. It probably feels like it's taking longer, but you don't have that feeling of like wow, I missed everything. You things are happening so methodically, that you really do get to experience every one of them and I guess you're finding at some points. In the beginning, you weren't wired to be working at that speed, maybe,
Deborah 35:05
you know, I, I, I am taking those moments and big life as Oh, because of what I'm being faced with. I do have to slow down. But I, it's just it's kind of a crazy culture, you know, that we live in with our phones, and we're always beeping in terms I really do miss I miss the 80s. I miss like, you know, I miss like, when it was a little simpler. But I mean, this is great, too. But it's a very fast paced culture that we live in. But I, I will say that, yes, I think I have. I think I have more moments of being present. Which, which most of us are, we're most of us are either living in the past or the future, you know, and most of us are not really, in the moment.
Scott Benner 35:51
I know a way to live in the future. And in the moment, it's with Dexcom. That's right, the Dexcom g six continuous glucose monitor makes you feel like you're flying in a spaceship, a spaceship made out of diabetes technology, because it's so like, out of this world. But you don't have to leave Earth to find it, you really just have to go to dexcom.com Ford slash juice box, I mean, way easier than flying into space or jumping into a time machine. Like that kind of stuff, which is a lot of that doesn't exist for real. But what I'm saying is, if you want to feel like you're living in the future, Today, Dexcom is the way to go. What are you going to find when you get to that dexcom.com Ford slash juice box URL, let me tell you, you're going to see the continuous glucose monitor that is at the top of its game, you are going to find the ability to see your blood sugar not just what it is not just Hey, my blood sugar is 140. But is this 140 rising or falling? And if it is, how fast is that happening, all that information at a glance, this information that you can also get on your Android or Apple phone 10 if the person with diabetes in your life happens to be a loved one and not yourself, you can see that information on your phone. Amazing, right? Like your kid could be anywhere you could see their blood sugar dexcom.com forward slash juice box where the links in your show notes were at Juicebox podcast.com, it's time to come to your future, which is technologies present. And get yourself a present isn't the English language amazing. There's so many words that sound the same and many of them are spelled the same, but they mean different things. But no matter how you say or spelled Dexcom it means comfort, quality, better way of life. The shows about the startup again, but before it does. Dancing for diabetes.com dancing the number four diabetes.com check them out on Facebook, check him out on Instagram, you will not be sorry, dancing, you know how to spell da NC IMG four is the digit four and then diabetes di A B t is the A b e t s then.is the period and comm CLM it sounds to me like you're doing an amazing job because there's you obviously are being inundated in three completely different ways on three separate fronts. Right? Like the diabetes feels dire, and it feels immediate. And the Autism is taking forever and is frustrating. And your father's the you know is is is slow, slow, slow, slow. It's very, not a lot of people have to bounce between such varying ideas in one day. But you're doing it.
Deborah 38:39
I'm trying I'm trying to, you know, I think it does take that village, which I've, you know, sort of created my mom, my mom has listened to every episode of your show. He takes notes and she sends them to me. I haven't listened to every episode, but I would like to, you know, I'm, I'm listening to your show. And then also when I because I have a long ride into the city I listen to like podcasts on just trying to stay balanced and peaceful and that sort of thing. But I also I do listen to your show. But my mom is always sending me notes, you know, from from the show and just you know, and I have just some wonderful people that I'm surrounded by and it really does take a village I think to to raise a family to build a an amazing movement. You know, just if everybody if everybody just kind of contributes a small piece of goodness to the higher good we you know, it's it really does make a difference, correct me
Scott Benner 39:42
if I'm wrong. I met your mom in the
Deborah 39:44
lobby outside of you did Yes, he did. as well.
Scott Benner 39:48
As you're talking I remember remembering more and more. It's so I hope you're not insulted like no you said we met at the hospital. I didn't know I'm sorry but
Deborah 39:58
no, not at all. That's probably not
Scott Benner 40:01
gonna go back. They contacted me and I picked a date and I'm gonna go back in about six months.
Deborah 40:08
I know I heard I heard about Yeah, very nice time. That was January.
Scott Benner 40:12
Yeah, a very nice time. And it was just the, I don't think I would have known the complete impact because there was a, there's a fair amount of people there. But one family in particular has kept in touch with me through so I know exactly
Deborah 40:25
which family
Scott Benner 40:26
Yeah. And, um, so it's great to see, they came along so far in six months. It's really cool.
Deborah 40:32
Oh, I told him he should like do a class. I told him. I told him he should do a class because he he's got it. Yeah, he's he's he you like, Yeah, he has exactly what he said. I'm not Yeah, he did. I I'm not exactly we're where you are. But that's okay. You know, we're good. Like, we'll get there.
Scott Benner 40:54
We're all not going to be in the same place at the same time.
Deborah 40:56
Exactly. Right. It's
Scott Benner 40:57
just, it's just, it's To me, it's comforting to know that, that a better place exists, and that you can keep moving towards it. Yeah. And and if you're seeing, you know, like, like we just said, like, sometimes you see improvement improvement, sometimes you see these walls, where nothing seems to get better. And those are the times you just have to sort of reinvest in what you're doing and say to yourself, I'm probably spread too thin in this moment, I'm not paying enough attention to one place.
Deborah 41:23
Yeah, and you need a break. And like you said during the lecture, like always that one parent that, you know, taking on this a little bit, you know, a little more than the other not not, there's no one no one's fault. You know, you need a break, you need you need to just get a break from it, or move your, you know, go out with the other child for a weekend or just sleep. No, just get some sleep. And so, you know, I completely, you know, I couldn't agree with you more.
Scott Benner 41:52
I have a couple of questions. So you said that you thought your husband handled the autism better than the diabetes? Yes.
Unknown Speaker 41:59
Why do you think that was?
Deborah 42:03
The autism was harder for me easier for him the diet? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 42:06
I don't know. Just how you think just yeah, I
Deborah 42:10
mean, yeah, I that's how that's how it is? i? Yeah, I don't know. I think that, um, like we, you know, we had already had one child with special needs. And then to have a second it was like, it just it hit him harder. Yeah, at first. And at first, I'm like, we got this honey, it was almost I look back and I was playing, like, I look back at myself, you know, like, it did hit me. It hit me like, probably two or three months after the hospital. And it was there was a period of like, depression, sadness, followed by, hey, we're gonna do this. We're gonna we're gonna get this.
Scott Benner 42:47
You know, it felt to me when you were talking that you went into survival mode first. And then after things leveled out, then you took time to be upset about it? And yes, right. And yes.
Deborah 42:58
And I think maybe seeing my husband breakdown, like I'm like, Okay, I have to I have to be wrong one right now.
Unknown Speaker 43:03
There's only two of us. And he's fine. So
Unknown Speaker 43:05
yeah, exactly, exactly.
Scott Benner 43:08
Oh, listen, it's a little like a foxhole. Right. If the guy next to us. It can't stand up and shoot, it's on us. You know, you're gonna get overrun.
Unknown Speaker 43:16
Exactly.
Scott Benner 43:17
It's it's very nice that you had somebody else. And it also opens a window into how a single parent situation, really, you guys really need to lock down a friend or a family member to be
Unknown Speaker 43:30
like that other person for you. Right? That's, that's heartbreaking. Yeah.
Scott Benner 43:33
Because when you're crying in the foxhole, you need somebody else to stand up and shoot. And it can't be it can't be the kids. You know, it needs to be it needs to be somebody else that's got your back for five seconds. You said something earlier that made me think about you said about just how hard parenting is in general, you didn't realize till you had your own kids.
Unknown Speaker 43:49
Okay, I thought I think
Scott Benner 43:50
one of the one of the things that I have found to be like, that I'm the most proud of because it is so difficult to do is you know, when you stand in judgment of your children, your children stand in judgment of you for a second and you recognize that they're right about their assessment of you, and that you have like, screwed something up or failed somewhere or not done really what you could have done.
Unknown Speaker 44:13
Learning Yes,
Scott Benner 44:14
learning that you have to stand there and feel it and then acknowledge it not be upset not lash back out. Like all that stuff. That's an incredible like you say you learn from your kids. That's an amazing mirror, right? Because they hold that mirror up to you and you're like, Oh, damn, they're right. You know, and, and I've, I can look back into my own childhood at the moments where I did that to my parents. And they, of course, just, you know, shove the back twice as hard and stop me from talking. But I didn't I don't you know, it was my first inclination as a younger parent. It was my wife had said to me, like, you have to let them talk like they're making sense. And I was thinking, I was like, Oh, I you know, at first I was like, she's just gonna use these kids to fix me. But But nobody Seriously, it's it's one of the most difficult things to do besides seeing your kids struggle or be in pain and not be able to help listening to them. tell you, Hey, you know, here's my assessment of something I just saw you do. And in all honesty, this doesn't jive with how you've told me to live life. So you're gonna have to adjust this or you're a hypocrite and in to sit there and think, Wow, they're right. And then to make that adjustments very hard, but very,
Deborah 45:28
it is hard. And it's so humbling. You know, there's, there's times where I've kind of lost it, and then not not lost a bit. You know, I've I have a lot, I think I have a lot of self control. I very, I really don't get angry very often. I do with the two with my kids. I definitely but but I think it's important to, like you said, you know, when your kids call you out to what, I'm sorry, Mommy, mommy made a mistake. Mommy shouldn't have, you know, reacted that way. And I'm human too. We all make mistakes, you know. So I definitely know, I have no problem saying I'm sorry, or acknowledging.
Scott Benner 46:05
It was most difficult for me because my father yelled, he yelled, that's how my dad would control a situation you just be louder than everybody else.
Deborah 46:13
Right? A lot of a lot of parents
Scott Benner 46:15
when I was younger, like, I fell into that quite easily, you know, and it didn't happen as much because the kids were so easy. Like the only mean like, there wasn't a lot of opportunity for it. But when it came, that was my default. I was like, Oh, I will just be louder than everybody else. shut this down.
Deborah 46:31
Right, right. Of course. No, we just we go with what we know and what we are experienced. Right? Right.
Scott Benner 46:37
I have not broken all the bad circles in my life. But I'm really close on that one. And I feel I feel very proud about it. So
Deborah 46:44
no, that's, that's you're better than me because I have yelled and I don't like doing I don't like to I don't like to with the kids. I really doesn't you know, in the moment, it doesn't happen a lot. The moment it'll feel good. And then like a seconds later, I'm like, at, you know, like, you know, but it's just like when they're not listening. My my dad my dad yell he gave he just gave me a book. So dab rock. go one two never made it to three. And then my mom. Oh, well, I sort of take after more in terms of like my parenting she was very soft. Easy going and but but a real nurturer such a you know, but also a little bit of a worrier. But just so so loving and so nurturing and, and that's sort of where you know, as I think, you know, a lot of it Some of it is my fault because I they are very spirited isn't. You know, when you're strict, they don't really take advantage, softer sometimes. I don't know.
Scott Benner 47:42
I you know, the strictness the strictness inhibits them, though and what I what I've really found about myself is that when it's you mentioned, like yelling when they're not listening, like my kids, listen, they're not like that. It's for me. It's when it not that not that they listened constantly or that you were stolen. But But what I'm saying is, for me, it strikes when, when they're looking at me, and they're saying, hey, look, you just did this thing. And that's not like there's what I've learned to do is just instead of trying to stop them, I just acknowledge them. And I let my ego go. And I say, look, I need you to understand in this moment, I can't take any criticism. Like I just don't, I'm tired. Or I'm just this day's been too much. And as you're right, but I can't stay in here and do this with you right now. Because I just don't have it in me today. So so you're not wrong. I'm not trying to stop you. I'm just telling you, if you have any compassion for me, yeah, let me off the hook right now.
Deborah 48:35
I totally get it. And that's, that is so important, I think, you know, to try to put our egos aside, and you know, because I feel like we don't do many things can just be, you know, I feel like a lot of us don't know how to communicate and through my son. So he has such difficulty communicating. Like, even at work. You know, whenever we have a really difficult client, they say called Debbie, and my one my one coworker, you know, she said, This woman is like, borderline abusive, she's terrible. And I'm and I and I ended up spending some time with her. I said, That's nothing, like, you know, like, you know, some people just don't know how to, you know, for whatever the reason is, maybe they're on the spectrum, maybe they, you know, whatever, there's, there's, you know, whatever the reason is, they just don't always know how to effectively communicate. And I think it's important not to take that personal and, and, you know, sometimes we have to put ourselves on the line a little bit and, and be a little vulnerable to open them up that makes
Scott Benner 49:32
it so you say this is my wife and I had this conversation yesterday off. And I don't know how this happened. But I was saying to her, it was like, you know, now with, you know, how much how much how we see people on the spectrum or autistic or anything like that, and how well they're being helped and, and people are helping them integrate into like a like a life. You know what I mean? Like, a world where a couple of decades ago, you would have just institutionalized somebody. Yeah, right. Yeah, that doesn't happen anymore. I'm like now there's This, these people exist in the world now. And it's so interesting to watch how that's working. You know, like,
Unknown Speaker 50:08
it's, you know,
Scott Benner 50:09
it's really something. Here's how the conversation started. Since we're talking about, I was driving down the street, and I saw this girl who I, you know, for the, I don't know, the right way to say this, but she was clearly autistic. Right, but she, you know, you could write, but gorgeous, like, model, right? And I thought I thought like, This girl is not gonna like some guys gonna be like, Yo, what's up? And like, what happens next? God, I just stood there wondering like all of that, like, I wonder where that goes and how that works? And
Deborah 50:45
I No, no, I worry, I think about I mean, I try not too much about the future. But I you know, I of course, I you know, you do have to think about that. And I plan a little bit through the principles of ABA, applied behavior analysis, which is like one of the only proven methods that has effectively shown to really, significantly help those with autism. It's amazing how much is therapies, really, and help a lot of these kids to live, you know, as some would want to say typical, you know, but like a somewhat typical life. But it is a huge spectrum. I mean, there are there are children that are nonverbal, that are not potty trained. I mean, like the kids in his class, they're, they're fascinating. There's one child that's obsessed with Titanic, those everything there is to know about the Titanic. And there's another little boy that if you say, October 30 1918, he'll say Tuesday, like, you know, he has memorized all the calendar. And there's another little boy who's obsessed with peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, he knows every and then, you know, my son loves air conditioners, drains, vents, garbage disposals, you know, like, they're like these, they're very quirky. And they get, you know, like, they get these like interests, and they just are, they're very smart. They're like little savant in certain areas, but then, you know, struggles socially,
Scott Benner 52:16
in the quarter of a block that I drove past this girl, I wondered about her entire life. Like, I was like, oh, like so many different ideas? And what could happen? Just the idea between, like, what if?
Unknown Speaker 52:27
What if?
Scott Benner 52:28
What if a malicious guy's the first person to approach versus what if it's just some sweet person who's just like, you know, what you seem like a person I want to know. And like, and all the things in between. And I was just, I was, I was happy for like, that she was going to have all these possibilities, because you think 30 years ago, she wouldn't have been just walking down the street by herself going for a walk on a nice day, right? Like her life would have probably been more segmented and, and, and, and more restricted. And I don't know, it was just really, okay, so Alright, so, so here's the last part we haven't spoken about. Okay.
Unknown Speaker 53:03
It's you, oh,
Scott Benner 53:06
we talked about, you know, a little bit about the diabetes. But to me, this conversation is more about being positive in the face of health issues. And so, you know, we learned about your father and his, his, his Alzheimer's, your son is his autism, who's taking care of you?
Deborah 53:24
Well, I am my husband is an incredible support. And my mom You know, my in laws, husband, family. Yesterday, they they went to the beach, and I stayed back and you know, my in laws were all there, and especially my, my brother in law, my sister in law there. But I have learned that is not selfish to go get a massage. It's not selfish to ask your spouse like, do I need a break? I just want to sit under a tree. And I just don't want to talk. No. And I and I have learned to love me. Oh, and because you kind of have to spend the rest of your life with yourself, right? And so you might as well learn to love yourself. And I love to read, like I get a lot of fulfillment and enjoy from from reading. Good books are listening to, you know, inspiring podcasts like yours. And you know, I just really try to nurture and take care of myself and I and I see a difference when I'm not. I do see a difference when I'm not used to carving out a little bit of time. For myself, though. I do think that it's just so important to to carve out time for your yourself.
Scott Benner 54:44
Yeah, no, I think that in many. I think if you really look at many families, there are people there are people who take on roles, and these people kind of get pulled together naturally like you don't normally see two like caregiver types married to each other. Do you know what I mean? Like,
Unknown Speaker 55:00
I don't know exactly what
Scott Benner 55:02
I have to tell you, I would joke about this. But if Deborah, if you and I were married, we'd be the two least productive people on the planet. Talking about how we felt all the while, we wouldn't have, we wouldn't have $15 into our name. So, you
Deborah 55:18
know, I'm more of the caregiver.
Scott Benner 55:20
And I am in our situation.
Deborah 55:22
Yes, right. He's more but he's he's the he's very committed. So I'm always the one I you know, I make the breakfast or lunch, the dinner, the smoothie, the smoothies, the foot massages, like, I'm always Are you okay? How do you feel? But then I'm also the first one, like, if he gets frustrated with me, I'm like, then why are we together? No. I love and I made a commitment cheat. And you're my What? You know, so he's the, he's the, he's the he's the he's very committed and devoted, and
Scott Benner 55:50
he's the guy who's gonna get up every day and go to work and make sure everything
Deborah 55:53
incredible. We do this like this cleanse every every January, we do this 21 day cleanse, he and I, and the first couple years, like I cheated, like, after the third day, he's like to those, and I'm like, No, no, you know, or did you have chocolate? You know, he's like, I don't I don't get it. He's like, if you make a commitment, you do it. You know, like, What is? But he is so like you said he gets up every day. I don't think he's ever missed in 17 years that I've no been Matt, you know, been with him. Like, I don't think he's ever missed a day of work. Like he is just so. And he but he's comes home and he he's he's so present with the kids. And he's just Oh,
Scott Benner 56:32
oh, got an engineer's mind. decency. Yeah, I'm on top of that. Yeah, no, I hear you.
Unknown Speaker 56:38
I just put it out with you guys. Well, it's,
Scott Benner 56:41
it's really the same. Kelly's just a bright, like hardworking person. You know, I, my wife is probably one of the, in, in, in the space that she's in. She is probably one of the preeminent people in that, like very neat, Nishi world that she works in. And if you go all the way back to her first job coming out of college, and she got attempt was attempt position. So she comes out, they put her in a in a double cube with a with a nurse. And it's at a pharma company. And my wife says, The first day she sat there, no one talked to her. She came but but not just no one talked to her. No one came up there and went Hi, you work here. Now this is your job.
Unknown Speaker 57:24
She
Scott Benner 57:24
right quite literally just sat there. So the next day again, nothing. So she turns to the woman in the cube. And she says, Is anyone ever going to like, talk to me or approach me or tell me what I was hired to do? Like, you know, like this, she was like 21 years old, 22 years old. And the woman's like, you know, they will eventually but your attempt, they were probably just filling a position. And so my wife comes home. And I'm like, So from my perspective, I'm like, she you just get to sit there and they're gonna pay. Yeah, I was like, This is amazing. And my wife said, I can't do that. So right. On the flower on the third day, my wife asked the nurse, what are you doing? And the nurse explained it to her and it was drug safety. It's the it's the protections of the things you don't say at a pharmaceutical company. Oh, my wife is the person who is standing up for you at a pharmaceutical company. Right? Wow. And so there are these rulings and rules and things from the FDA massive volumes of them. And my wife went and got them and sat down and read them. And now if you want to know anything about that, you come as a fitness industry, right? That's,
Deborah 58:35
yeah, I didn't credit that's my husband. Yes, my husband, I'll just watch the video or ask someone to kind of show it to me,
Scott Benner 58:42
I would have had my feet up on the desk. And if someone came through and said, Scott, what are you doing? I'd be like, I am the luckiest person in the world. I just got a job right off the bat and then die. But that's my whole plan. You know, buddy. wife was like, I won't waste this time. And so
Deborah 58:59
that's incredible. That's
Scott Benner 59:01
right. And it's just very fasting. Because you also because people are like that you also kind of can't tell them, like in the way you want to because they don't feel things in the same way that other people do. Because they're such like working individuals like right, they really are. They get up they strap it on and they go to work every day. It's really it's really something but if it wasn't for her,
Deborah 59:19
it's admirable.
Scott Benner 59:20
Yeah, this wouldn't exist. Because how would I? How would I afford the time to have learned all these things? Or the time to figure out how to tell you about them or the time to actually tell you about them? You know, so
Deborah 59:31
if it was if it wasn't for him?
Scott Benner 59:33
No, please. Definitely Yeah, if I we I say all the time, if our roles were reversed my wife and I would be lucky to live like in a shack on the edge of the river. You know, to me, like the best I probably could have done,
Deborah 59:46
but we're so we're so blessed that we found worked we found out we found them. It I really it's you know, I think I think you actually I think you appreciate marriage even for as you as you get older and the kids start getting older and you really are Faced with some real, you know, but I but I agree with everything you're saying and your wife is my husband. And and thank God thank God for that,
Scott Benner 1:00:09
oh, if they were married, they'd be so happy. They never talk to each other. It's gonna work.
Unknown Speaker 1:00:14
So great. I love it. I
Scott Benner 1:00:17
love it very funny. Well, I want to thank you so much for doing this. It was absolutely spectacular. I did not know what to expect. And it just went exactly, it couldn't have gone any better than I'd hoped. So I really appreciate you being this open and sharing this time with everybody.
Deborah 1:00:33
Well, thank you so much for this wonderful opportunity. And, you know, I, I appreciate it, too. And I'll see you soon. I'll see you in January. I'll be back to
Scott Benner 1:00:43
hopefully you guys can get a whole new group of people to come in.
Unknown Speaker 1:00:47
And oh, yeah, and maybe
Scott Benner 1:00:48
some of the originals can come back and we can advance them along a little farther. That'd be really cool.
Deborah 1:00:52
I already I already told my Oh, my in laws. And, um, and I've shared I've extended it to that we might have to get like a big, really big room. Because I think a lot of people yeah, we might actually have to, because I think a lot of people are extending it, you know, you. So well, we might actually have to get a bigger room for that. But
Scott Benner 1:01:10
I guess we'll see with it. Yeah, the most exciting thing that happened after that was that I got word back. That the the like the person who leads the endo department was very pleased with the conversation that I started. And I thought that was great, because I that's my goal is I hope that doctors talk about this more like this, you know,
Deborah 1:01:29
well, there is a doctor, part of the group, who apparently is, you know, he's he's been doing this a long time. And he's sort of old school. And when that family that you were talking about before, that their daughter's a one c down, like I think, like a five point something. He basically was like, tell me how you did it. And, you know, he, he told him about your podcast, and he showed him what he was doing. And because he sort of this, this particular doctor, he's not my doctor, but I just what I understand very nice man. But I think just more old school, but he's now extremely open and advocating for I actually had spoken to once and I was trying to explain to him that you know that we have too much coverage, because he was the one on call. And he's like, What do you mean, the numbers are fine. They're 7580 I'm like, Yeah, but they were double ours down. From what I what I understand after that family that both referring to before, you know, after he has a one, her daughter's a one c went down. So you know, to a normal range. That show me what you're doing. And and so now I understand he's, you know, very open to this and encouraging of it.
Scott Benner 1:02:44
And maybe we'll see him then like, yeah,
Deborah 1:02:48
yeah, exactly.
Unknown Speaker 1:02:49
I would absolutely love. Oh,
Deborah 1:02:51
thank you so much. Enjoy the rest of your day. And I'll see
Scott Benner 1:02:54
you soon. Yep. You You go be nostalgic at your alma mater, and I'll talk to you later.
Deborah 1:02:58
Yes, I will. Okay, thank you. Thank you for by.
Scott Benner 1:03:04
I believe that Deborah is the first person to record the podcast by wandering around a college campus. Very cool. I just I again, love this today. It's why I'm getting it right to you. I want to thank Dexcom on the pod and dancing for diabetes for supporting the podcast with their ads, please consider supporting them back with your patronage. dexcom.com Ford slash juice box my Omni pod.com Ford slash shoes box dancing. Number four diabetes.com are the links in your show notes at Juicebox podcast.com. One last thing. This Friday and other defining diabetes will come out at the end of it. Hmm, do I want to put it at the end of the defining No. Here's what I'm gonna do. Yes, I'm going to do that. I think I'm going to Yes, here's what I'm gonna do. On Friday, defining diabetes will come out again other short couple minute episodes, where Jenny Smith and I define a word or phrase that part of your life with type one. I'll also release a quick episode announcing the giveaway the 1 million download giveaway. That's what I do. so that you guys can go That makes sense. It does, right. Guys, sometimes I don't know what to do. Sometimes. I'm amazed the podcast is popular at all. Or that I have any luck running it. I think that's what I'm gonna do. I think I'm gonna release the time. Yeah, right. Yes. All right. This is what I'm gonna do for certain now. I've just talked myself into it. This Friday. Let me find out what the date is on Friday. Because you're getting this on the 30th of July. Friday's the second of August. It's the day before my anniversary. Oh, I should get an anniversary. Oh Jesus. All right, different problem for now. I'm learning a lot right now. For now Friday, August 2, you're going to get another episode of defining diabetes. And the announcement for the big giveaway, the 1 million downloads celebration, going to be 9 billion different ways to enter. They're all going to be incredibly easy. And one winner is going to get the whole thing. Everything it's not like hey, swag bag from Omni pod swag bag from Dexcom free myabetic bag. This this this like, you'll get this and you'll get no no winner gets the whole thing winner take all understand. Look for the announcement on Friday. The second I spent a few minutes talking about what getting to a million downloads has meant to me and what I think it means to the podcast itself and where it's going and we'll just talk about it for a little bit. might get a little weepy or sentimental it's hard to know what will happen exactly. Anyway, I hope you enjoyed this episode of the Juicebox Podcast. I'll see you on Friday for the announcement for another defining diabetes episode. Hope you guys are having a great summer if you live you know in atmosphere where it's summer. And for those of you listening in the other one I hope it's not too cold. How many hemispheres are there hemma sphere? Oh, we're getting into stuff I don't know. You guys want to look it up before I go. How many hemispheres? Are there we're not the first person to wonder this on Google. For any circle drawn around the Earth divides it into two equal halves called hemispheres. They there are generally considered to be four hemispheres but it's generally considered mean is their foreign. Alright, how can there be like okay, generally considered I don't enjoy that as an explanation anyway. Northern Southern Eastern and Western the equator or line of zero degrees. Wait, the equator or line of zero degrees latitude divides the earth into the northern and southern hemispheres. Alright. What about what about the other righteous now we're gonna look into this more. All right, the equator or line of zero degrees latitude divides the earth into the northern and southern hemispheres. The northern hemisphere contains North America, the northern part of South America, Europe, the northern two thirds of Africa and most of Asia. The southern hemisphere contains most of South America, one third of Africa, Australia, Antarctica and some Asian Island.
There are differences in the climates of that this is how we got to this of the northern and southern hemispheres because of the Earth's seasonal tilt toward and away from the sun. In the northern hemisphere, the warmer summer months are from June through September. This makes sense because it's so high right now and it's warm here in the southern hemisphere. Summer begins in December and ends in March. Alright, there's some stuff here about prime meridian. I do not want to get into that. This is going off the rails. I'll see you guys later.
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