#960 Dew Drop Diaries
Both of Rick's daughters have type 1 diabetes. Rick is the creator of the new Netflix series, "Dew Drop Diaries" - available today on NETFLIX.
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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends, welcome to episode 960 of the Juicebox Podcast.
On today's episode I'll be speaking with Rick Now Rick is the father of two children with type one diabetes. And he has a really incredible job Rick has created, written and produced some really awesome children's television. His brand new showed do drop diaries is available right now on Netflix. While you're listening today, please remember that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your healthcare plan or becoming bold with insulin. If you'd like very comfortable sheets, clothing and towels, go to cozy earth.com and use the offer code juicebox at checkout when use that offer code at checkout, you will save 40% off of your entire order. If you're looking for community around you diabetes, check out the private Facebook group Juicebox Podcast type one diabetes there are 40,000 people in their caregivers people with type one people with type two, all kinds of interesting conversations. You never know who you'll bump into actually Rick's a member go tell him how much you enjoyed, do drop diaries
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Rick Suvalle 2:47
My name is Rick Savelle. And I'm the father of two t one D daughters. I'm also a television writer and producer. I was the head writer on Amazon's animated series, the stinky and dirty show. And I created the new Thomas and Friends reboot that came out last year. And I'm currently the executive producer and creator of a new preschool animated series called The dewdrop diaries that will be coming out probably right whenever this airs on Netflix. And this show is very special to me. Because it was inspired by my two T one D daughters.
Scott Benner 3:21
Wow. Alright, we're gonna get into all of that. But first I have to understand how do you how do you get into this kind of work? What's the path?
Rick Suvalle 3:30
Um, you know, I got I started at with a with one of those pity favorite meetings. Were when I first came out to Los Angeles, my grandmother said she had a her best friend's kid was a producer and writer in law and order and I should go meet with him. And I went out to the universal lot and had lunch with him. And I'm sitting there in a jacket and tie. And he's the first thing he says is I hope you didn't wear that for me because you know, you're creative. You're supposed to be in your jeans and your T shirt and I was like oh, and so this guy ended up we hit it, we really hit it off. We were both like lactose intolerant and played you know, clarinet in the sixth grade. And so he took a shine to me and kind of mentored me and got me my my first gig writing and that kind of snowballed into writing. I've written movies for Sci Fi Channel and Hallmark Channel and, and then I kind of got into animation just because I had met enough writers over time. And they they gave me a shot and I kind of just worked my way up the ladder there.
Scott Benner 4:35
So all this is because you can't tolerate milk and you played the clarinet.
Rick Suvalle 4:39
Is that what I'm here actly exactly the key to everyone's success in this business.
Scott Benner 4:46
So what did you do in high school and did you go to college?
Rick Suvalle 4:49
I in high school. I was one of the dramas. You know, I really liked the theater program at my high school and but I'd love to write I always love to write at that point and So I went to college at Hofstra University in New York. And my wife and I met there, and we drove out to Los Angeles together. And we've been together for a long, long time. Wow. That's
Scott Benner 5:14
crazy. So you just you wanted to write it first. That was just your first
Rick Suvalle 5:17
I did, I wanted to, I think I wanted to, I mean, I studied in college, you know, writing and film. And I had this kind of idea of being that indie writer, director. And then once I met my mentor, his name is Morgan, Dell might as well give them a shout out. When I met my mentor, I kind of saw how TV worked. And I saw that it was a lot more fast paced, you know, it can take years for movie. And if you're just a writer on a on a film, you're often a low person on the totem pole, the director is kind of the star of the production. And then, but I learned in TV, you know, the producer, the writer, producers are the people in control. And the directors end up being kind of somewhat blue collar, and they're for hire on TV shows. So I mean, obviously some rise to being executive producers as well and great shows, but for the most part, it that's more of a journeyman type job. And so I just like that, that, seeing that that power that they had, I mean, not that it's like, you know, crazy power, but I just I liked that they had the creative control of the show.
Scott Benner 6:22
It's interesting that I did you grow up around anybody who was creative in your sphere, even a story like, like that. The reason I asked is because I wanted to write my whole life growing up. And I was a terrible student. And I didn't know anybody. And I lived in a very blue collar family. And I always had the feeling that if I said to my mom or dad, you know what I'm thinking? What if I wrote my feelings down about this, I think they would have been like, oh, you should shut up and go get a job is was always kind of my fear. So I didn't do it. The podcast happened after I wrote a book. But the book came from a blog. And, and I enjoyed the process so much, but then it was, it was unfulfilled, like the process was fulfilling. At the end of it, I found myself realizing like, I don't even care if anybody, like, reads this, like, I just want to, like, I would like to make more. And it was because books are, I mean, they're tough. If you're not famous, it's hard to get somebody to read your book, you know?
Rick Suvalle 7:24
Yeah, it's it's such a different discipline for me, like I've thought about writing a book, but that's really as far as it's gone. Because, you know, it's writing screenplays and writing, you know, teleplays very different process, and you don't, in a novel, you can talk about how people think, and you can talk about your thought process. And, you know, in, you know, in a screenplay, you're really kind of cutting it down to be like a blueprint of what we're going to see. I mean, sure, there's creativity in there, for sure. And the best screenplays have style and, and a voice, but at the same time, you're cutting the quick. And so I don't really have the discipline, I'd like to write a play too. But at some point, I have an idea. But for me, it's like, two hours of people just talking, whereas I'm so used to like, we got to get to the next scene, no entrances, no exit said it's always fast paced and what moves things forward. Whereas, you know, in the play, you just kind of ruminate. And so, but yeah, I actually, I had a blog for awhile, too, because I was a, you know, being a writer, you're not always working. So I was a stay at home dad. Like yourself. Yeah. You know, and, you know, so I started blogging about my adventures of being a stay at home dad, and then it kind of, some of that kind of got picked up as somehow I became like, a parent expert for a little while, you know,
Scott Benner 8:50
around 2012 2013, because that's about when that happened to me.
Rick Suvalle 8:54
Yeah, it was, it was probably around that it was probably around that. Yeah,
Scott Benner 8:57
for sure. Yeah. blogs were really strong then. And a lot of producers were reaching into the internet to find people, and I would find myself in the oddest situations. The podcast actually partly exists because of that. Because a producer for Katie Couric, I think needed a stay at home dad in the New York area. And she just googled it and found my website it was like this guy's a stay at home dad he's written a book. And then the suddenly I was on television being interviewed about like being a stay at home dad. And while these other three guys, they were so earnest, and I just remember one of them had only been a stay at home data for like a year and he was being so earnest. I started I was laughing at him, which I don't think is protocol. And, and it swung back to me. And then I just did this thing where I had done it done an interview prior to that. I did something honestly for Katie Couric sub web show first, and I thought this was going to be my only chance ever. And they took me up to New York and I was in I think CBS where they do the CBS Evening News obviously in that studio and they were using it during the die. So people were working in cubicles everywhere behind behind the director, and behind the cameras. And a guy went before me. And he was good. Like, he answered the questions and he was thoughtful. And I thought, that's nice. But I was standing in the wings, and I thought it's completely forgettable. Like, like, what do I care if this is good, I'm never doing this again. You know what I mean? And like, 10 minutes later, I'm telling Katie Couric about the time my wife and I had sex in a field with a train went by very slow. And we're, I'm telling you, all these kind of bombastic stories that I'm just like, no one's gonna use this, and I don't give a fuck. I was like, I was like, I'm going for it, you know. And she's laughing. I looked up, the people in the cubicles are laughing, everyone's having a good time. And like a week later, I get this note from her assistant, and it says, hey, the raw footage from your interview is like, going around the office, and people are having such a great time. The actual thing we're going to use is like 90 seconds long, because you didn't say anything we can actually use. And I was like, I was like, I don't care. But then two weeks later, come on the TV show. And when I was walking off again, I kind of thought this was it. And she grabbed me. And she goes, You're so good at talking to people. And I said, Oh, thank you. And then I didn't know what else to make of that. But like a year later, as blogging waned away, I thought, Oh, I'll make a podcast. Because Katie Couric said, I was good at talking to people. And that was my, the entire basis I had for even trying this, which was amazing. It's awesome. It's just dumb luck. Honestly, it's not lactose intolerance and clarinets. But it's pretty good. So you and I intersect each other originally, right? Because you were you have two kids with type one, but one of your kids is named Arden.
Rick Suvalle 11:43
Correct? Yeah. I when I was Googling around, like I was struggling for like, what? What's out there? What resources are there? And I was like, and then I saw, I'm like, Wait, there's another T one D dad that has a, you know, has has has a kid named Martin. And I was just like, wow, so I think we exchanged some messages a long time ago, a long time
Scott Benner 12:03
ago. I said it to my daughter and she goes get out of here. Are you serious? And I was like, Yeah, I was like, that's crazy, right? Because there's only I don't know how far you looked into it when you were naming your children. But we looked at the time that we picked Arden as a name. I think there was fewer than 10,000 people in America named Arden and more than 50% of them are men. It's like an older man's name. Yeah, like, so. I don't know. That just seems very random. You know? Yeah. And
Rick Suvalle 12:31
we really, and we love the name because it was so rare. You know, we're like, oh, this is great. It's not quite Apple, you know, you know, but we felt like it was, you know, original and yet not, you know, so crazy. Yeah,
Scott Benner 12:44
that's terrific. It really is. It's wonderful. I'm sure will go on long enough. We'll start an army of children named Martin and have diabetes are probably not probably will ever happen again. So how you have two kids? How old are they?
Rick Suvalle 12:57
Right now? They're 14 and 1714. Arden? 17. Martin
Scott Benner 13:01
- Wow, look, they're so close in age two. That's crazy. Who gets type one first?
Rick Suvalle 13:08
Arden did. She was about eight years old just to turn to eight. Okay. And then Alex, we found out. We did try on that. And so we were like, catch it. So no hospital for the second kid. We caught it. But that was about a year and a half later when Alex was maybe two years later when Alex was six.
Scott Benner 13:29
Okay, so they've 10 year about 10 and eight years they've had it? Yeah. Is there any autoimmune in your family line or your wife's?
Rick Suvalle 13:39
Yeah, we have to kind of research that. My mother in law has rheumatoid arthritis. And so I know that is an autoimmune disease. And then we did find out like much later that my grandfather's sister probably had type one. Okay, so it'd be my great aunt. But I had never met her so she died before was born. So I think that she was, you know, she's lucky to live as old as she did, you know, with the with the old insulin regimen that she had,
Scott Benner 14:10
ya know, some that that really is a toss of the dice back then I had somebody recently tell me that. Similarly, like a greater great, maybe a grandmother, a great grandmother, they thought had type one and she asked her father and the father said, All I know is she really had to watch it. That was like the extent of the information they got, you know, from it. So, okay, so there's no real I mean, Ras auto immune, your wife already has bad luck, She plucked the guy out of Hofstra and he was a stay at home dad. So she, she's not. She's not on a great roll until this whole thing starts working out for you. But for sure. Yeah. So when what's the first diagnosis look like? The second one obviously, you knew what to look for. But the first one how did it go?
Rick Suvalle 14:51
Yeah, the first one was, you know, my wife, you know, she's a WebMD Sleuth. So she was just my daughter. I was kind of a pudgy kid. And then when she was about eight, she was in the elementary school play. And she got the flu, which we realized that was the trigger for the gene because suddenly she was losing weight. And I'm like, my wife, so worried she's losing weight. I'm like, she's looking great. And my wife is like, but she's going to the bathroom a lot. And you know, she's eating eating a ton and losing weight, but something has to be wrong with her. And I was like, there's nothing wrong with her. And so my wife eventually said, you know, I think she could have type one diabetes? No, I don't. I didn't know anything about that. So we were scheduled in July, you know, like a month after my daughter's birthday to go in for her physical and I said, Let's just wait till then. And we'll go in. And I'll ask them, ask the doctor about that. So my wife agreed to kind of wait for that. Meanwhile, my daughter goes to summer camp, and for some strange reasons she was passing out from time to time. But we took her in and I remember I said the doctor Oh, my wife, you know, as if it was like Colombo, one last thing. You know, I was like, can you see when you do bloodwork that if she has type one diabetes, my wife thinks, and the doctor says, oh, let's do a urine test right now. And she said, Oh, my gosh, she her blood sugar is 711 You need to go to the hospital right now. And I was like, oh, but they're like, since we're already at the hospital where the doctor is, you know, just kind of hanging out with her for a bit. And we'll make sure we can get her set up there. So you don't have to walk right into the emergency room. So I knew nothing about type one diabetes, and I thought my daughter would never have sweets again. So I took her to the, to the commissary at Cedars Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles and said, he had all the sweets you want right now, kiddo have have that sugar doughnut? And because I had no idea. And so she's just mowing that down. And then they come in into the hospital. Like, that's probably not the best idea, but we'll get it under control.
Scott Benner 16:57
Rick, you got crazy dad logic, I love it. Also, what's the bigger concern in the moment that your daughter has type one or that you're gonna have to tell your wife that she was right, and you were ignoring?
Rick Suvalle 17:09
Well, it's always worse if I have to tell my wife. She's right. And she always is she always is. But yeah, so it was it was fine. I mean, we had that, you know, that I think two nights stay in the hospital, and where they kind of gave us that whirlwind training where that you will forget every single thing they say, and you're looking at this paperwork afterwards. But yeah, so I mean, that was, that was it was very weird and surreal. And, you know, having to give needles and dealing with schools immediately afterwards. And you know, there's not enough nurses and in Los Angeles for the schools, they share them. So like, they have to schedule the nurse to come by to make sure she has her shot. And I do remember right away, my daughter went back to school, and the nurse, you know, was, you know, really hurt her with the shot, you know, they were not trained well, so my daughter and eight goes, I'm giving myself shots. And so she instantly was giving yourself shots, which was great. And, yeah, so it was it was a difficult transition.
Scott Benner 18:11
For sure. I would imagine what did she spend much time in the hospital?
Rick Suvalle 18:15
Just the just the two nights, but she was never technically one. DKA so she was kind of just in it, you know, I think that vine had just come out, you know, that, that that six second video, you know, social media thing. So she's making vine in the hospital, the nurses and she, you know, like, she was just having a blast in the hospital like, hey, people are waiting on me hand and foot, you know,
Scott Benner 18:39
those people must be pissed about tick tock, the vine, people for sure. I bet they wake up every morning and they're like, dammit, we were ahead of our time. But it happens sometimes. Sometimes you have a good idea before everybody else is ready to, to believe in it. Okay, so does she use while she's on MDI for how long? Because I'm hearing when we were talking before we got on like, she's pumping now. Right?
Rick Suvalle 19:03
Yeah. She was on MDI. For the first six months. I guess that was protocol. Didn't know you could find it and do things earlier. But they said we want six months, basically. So you understand how to do MDI. So. So we were about six months before we got the approval for her to go on the Animus ping at the time.
Scott Benner 19:19
Yeah. Wow. No CGM. At the time.
Rick Suvalle 19:23
There was. So we did get one about that same time. We did get the CGM
Scott Benner 19:27
Bouchy, was that g4?
Rick Suvalle 19:28
Yeah, it was the g4. No Cher, as you know, at that time, so I did that I did that hack, the Nightscout hack where I had the the uploader phone which would go in her purse at school and you know, wire to the CGM and send me the data so I would have that. Yeah,
Scott Benner 19:46
I put a Oh, my God, I don't think I've ever said this on here. It used to be able to buy like, back then I think it was like three. I don't know if it was GS or 3g, but it was like a cell phone repeater that you plugged in And I bought one of those and like, artfully put it in the middle of Arden's classrooms that she was in. And like I was getting data from her that way. And that Oh, nice. Yeah, that was before the school had Wi Fi. They were like, What are we doing? I'm like, I'm just plugging this in right here. You won't even know it's here. I'll be back at the end of the year to get it from you. Don't worry plugin, they went forward. So awesome. As was actually hairy back then you had to like, there was a lot to do. You had to I had to talk to the I had to talk to sell company to let me put it somewhere that wasn't my address. And like, there was a ton that went on with it. And in the end, like it felt like six months later, Dexcom was like, Hey, here's the share. I was like,
Rick Suvalle 20:40
yeah, yeah, that was that was a nice change. For sure. Yeah. Okay.
Scott Benner 20:43
So what do you think about the impact on your life? Because you're in a unique situation? Were you still a stay at home dad at that point?
Rick Suvalle 20:53
I was, I mean, on and off, because, you know, the freelance life, the TV life, I'm in between jobs all the time. And so yeah, and I to this day, I'm still the the primary care provider for all t one D stuff. For both my kids. I'm the one getting up at night, you know, still and my wife could
Scott Benner 21:14
set your punishment. Is that your punishment for not listening when she told you?
Rick Suvalle 21:17
Yeah, or it's the fact that my wife could could, you know, sleep through an earthquake here, a nuclear holocaust? So, but yeah, I'm up with that up for the highs and lows? And
Scott Benner 21:31
how will it change you like what was the did have an impact on your personality and your outlook? And I'm interested?
Rick Suvalle 21:38
It did. I mean, I think it did, I mean, really got involved, I really felt like, what can I do, because he I think we all feel so helpless when our kids are diagnosed. And so I, you know, was doing my research and I started doing JDRF events, we did a walk that first year, because we're like, maybe we can raise me because we've all heard, like, the cure is only five years away. And so and you believe that, you know, in that, that beginning stages, because you have to and so I was like, let's raise money for it. And we raised a lot. And so as a result that JDRF reached out to me saying, Hey, would you want to be on the board of directors for the Los Angeles chapter, and I just felt like I was doing something proactive, and I would be able to get, you know, I would hear about the research early, I would, you know, be able to kind of, you know, help, you know, raise money for for more research. So I was really into the JDRF, I still love the JDRF I'm not part of it now. But I still, you know, I'm associated with them. Part of it was I was mentoring newly dos family and newly diagnosed families, you know, in the area, they would often assign me that and they became a big part of our family. My Arden was, you know, their spokesperson for the for the walks on the news and stuff like that. So she, she was just cute and great personality. So they would use her picture, and she would do go around and do talks when she was eight and nine years old.
Scott Benner 23:01
I think my Arden did, they went we went down to I think the ABC Studios to film a commercial for the local walk, and she just sitting there, like smiling and waving and I asked her about it recently. And she's like, I don't remember that. It's a great, good use of our afternoon. So, but, but I take your point, too, about this stuff, like we jumped in with JDRF very quickly. Honestly, the blog started because I didn't raise very much money the first year. And I was like, like how I put all this effort into it. And I raised like a couple $1,000 And I was like, I'm gonna use the internet. Everybody's talking about the internet. But how many? How many of you that seriously, that's how long ago it was, I was like, I'm gonna make a thing. And, and I got on, I had an Apple computer, and it had this program on it called iWeb. And I used iWeb for sure the promise of iWeb is you can put your thoughts on the internet. And I was like, Get out of here seriously. So I use that. And I started writing a blog before honestly, I don't even think I knew what a blog was getting, you know, when I was doing it. But I take your point, like, you know, in the beginning, you have that feeling of like we really, like I want to help. And I don't know how, you know, so it's a it is it's a it's kind of a terrible feeling if you can't fulfill it, because it just feels like you're not doing anything.
Rick Suvalle 24:21
Yeah, I mean, that's why I you know, the minute I heard about loop, I, I went out and found those old Medtronic pumps and started looping with both my daughters, you know, I immediately was doing loop I was doing anything I could, to kind of make things better for them. You know, we we've tried, you know, all the different pumps we've tried, you know, MBI my old my younger daughter is in an Frezza study now. I mean, we're, I'll do anything to try and kind of make their lives better if I can.
Scott Benner 24:48
Yeah. How does she like that? That's in the inhaled insulin. How she like yeah, it's
Rick Suvalle 24:51
great. I mean, it is so fast. And I mean, it's it's that ultra rapid so if she's, you know, we We can't take it before eating and we often can't take it before she starts to go up because it's that fast. So the minute she starts see the rise, she can take it but like if she was 300, and she took the Frezza within I mean, you look at that Dex, those Dexcom numbers between the high number and the next number, it's already going down. So she was she's, she can drop, you know, in minutes back to normal. It's
Scott Benner 25:26
because that's interesting. And that's just a meal insulin, is that correct?
Rick Suvalle 25:29
No, we're I mean, part of the study that she's doing is that all our corrections and meal everything she but she still has to take
Scott Benner 25:35
a you know, a Basal insulin, okay, she shooting to SIBO or something like that.
Rick Suvalle 25:40
We just started to receive it because we were using like, the generic Lantis, which doesn't have doesn't last as long she would start to rise. But for SIBO I think it's 42 hours. So
Scott Benner 25:50
it tells itself a little bit. And yeah, it's nice. You don't have a drop off like you do with Lantis and love Amir. And does she like that? Or is she just doing it to do it? Like as she indicated to you? Well, she
Rick Suvalle 26:02
definitely likes the little bit of money she gets every time she shows up, but she's 14 But she like but she actually really likes it because she was very shy about giving her she she switched to NDI. You know, some were around six to nine months ago, she was getting, we were getting a lot of scar tissue on her stomach where she likes to put her pumps sights. So she was not getting good absorption at all. So we switched to, to MDI, and it was much better. And she was liking that a lot. She really likes MTI because she's very active too. And, you know, pump wires get in the way. And she she likes that. And so when it came up to try the Frezza, she's like, Sure, I'll try that. And she loves it because she would wait in class to you know, like, she likes to put in her legs, she doesn't want to pull down her pants in class, she doesn't want to go to the bathroom, she's too embarrassed. So she will. But in class, you can take out her little thing and pretend she's vaping to make all the other middle schoolers go what's going on? And so she does that, and she loves it. And so she's just much more on top of it.
Scott Benner 27:10
Let's go. How long does the trial go for? One year? Okay, how long have you been at it? One month? Oh, wow. That's the very beginning. Now, Arden only ever did one thing. When I think Omnipod made a change to the PDM. And the FDA required them to basically put it in users hands and make sure they could operate it. So they needed people to come to this office and do it. We drove it was down in Philly. Then we drove down and art and just sat at a table and took direction from people and did everything and they filmed her. And when it was over, they gave her $500. And she was like, Yes, we have now found it. Like she's like, What am I going to do with all of this money? And I was like, I don't know, what do you think? And I believe she bought clothing with it. So. But yeah, it's interesting when when that stuff goes, well, I'd love to hear about it at the end. And yeah, let's see how it goes. Was there any, like was Arden like, Hey, I'd like to do this too, or was this something you need?
Rick Suvalle 28:05
Well, she couldn't because it's only for kids that are an MDI. So in this particular study that they're doing, because they you know, they want people that are already on the Basal insulin, so they can swap out shots for that. Okay, so an Arden is about to hit 18. Next in a month and a half. So the they want under it's an under 18 study. Yeah. Is she going to college? She has she just got accepted to UC San Diego. Oh, lovely. And that's where she's going to head
Scott Benner 28:37
is that far from home?
Rick Suvalle 28:39
It's about two hour drive. Or she can hop on a train that actually goes right into our town in Burbank, California. So that's kind of nice that we don't have to drive down and pick her up that kind of stuff. Ya
Scott Benner 28:50
know, Arden is about a 14 hour drive from us. Oh, wow. Where she's where she at? She's at SCAD in in Savannah. Okay, great. Yeah, she wants to do fashion design. So she's going there for that. But I, prior to a year ago, I had been to Atlanta once in my entire life, or the Georgia in Georgia at all. And in the last year, I think I've been there six times. So my, my daughter starts going to college there. My son graduates from college. He's like, I got a job and I'm like, Great wherever he goes, Atlanta and I'm like, Are you kidding? I was like, what do we live in Georgia now? So anyway, I've been there quite quite a little bit. Well, I wish her a ton of luck. I hope that's successful. Is she nervous about leaving with diabetes? Are you nervous about it?
Rick Suvalle 29:37
I think so. I mean, I think she's, I mean, she's doing well. A lot of pressure this time of year, you know, trying to get into college and finals and AP exams and prom, all that fun stuff about being you know, a 17 year old. So I think she is a little she was a little nervous. She was waffling between two colleges, but when we went down, we actually went down there last weekend. To check it out for the first time And she just felt at home. It turns out one of my diabetes parent friends as a kid who's gonna be in the same dorm as her next year, who's a type one diabetic? And so I think she's, she's handling it pretty well. I mean, she has a tough time managing her diabetes, she, I mean, she's one of these kids who she's worried about lows. So she lets herself go high in stressful situations, like a test, or I'm doing the choir show and just unplugged. And then suddenly, you're like, why am I 400? Why do I feel like crap? And so I am, I'm a little nervous for her, like, what's new stressors? Will they be in college? And will you be able to handle it in terms of, I'm sure she will, but I just want to make sure she's on top of it. And, you know, my wife is prepared to like, turn off the Dexcom when my daughter goes to college, because she just doesn't want to know,
Scott Benner 30:52
I, I'll tell you that the My biggest, like, speed bumps so far has been that Arden is a team. And you know, they're respectful of the idea that, you know, she knows she's a college, and we're paying for that kind of stuff. Like, she's not an ass about it or anything like that. But there is this thing where they could just not answer you. Right, you know, and they can, like, say, look, Bob, this, I already know what I'm doing. I'm doing this, if it's not happening quickly enough for you, I don't know what to tell you. But I'm not getting involved in this conversation that that started a little at the end of high school where she was sort of like I'm doing it because we put it into her hands a lot more. And we're getting ready for college. And there were times I'm like, you need to, like, do something here. And she's like, I know, or I don't agree with you. And I'm like, I'm like, there are times when I'm like, you know, I'm the guy from the podcast, like, I'm pretty sure I'm right about this, you know, and she's and she's like, I don't care. So, but I've learned that they're just that they're more learning experiences. And the one we're often gets stuck on is at the end of a site. You know, like, there are just times when your site's only got a few more hours on it. And you've used a bunch of insulin already for the last few days and just needs to be changed. And I'll send her a text and I'll say this, like gave up like, you have to change it. No, it's going to be okay, there's 40 units left on using these blah, blah, blah. And then her blood sugar's 250 A couple of hours later. And I see that she's changed the pump, like I look on Nightscout like, she changed the pump. And I was like, ah, like, I don't throw it back. And I don't say anything. Honestly, I just go oh, she she's, she saw cause and effect here. And she's getting better at it as time goes. So very recently, it happened again, I said, Hey, I know you don't like this as an answer. But that's not okay. anymore. You should change it. And never answered me. But she changed the pump. And I was like, Oh, I think I won.
Rick Suvalle 32:44
Yeah, I think I think it's the same thing. I'll say to my daughter, like, come on, I can tell you unplug. I'll send in a text message and stuff like that. There's no answer. And then you see the number go down, you know, you know, because she's actually corrected and replug in
Scott Benner 32:55
does she have a an experience that makes her concerned about lows? Or is it just a theoretical worry,
Rick Suvalle 33:02
it's theoretical, that's what's kind of, that's what bothers me is the fact that it hasn't happened. I'm like, we I always say to him, like, we haven't let you die yet. You know, and, you know, so and she hates when I say that to her. But I'm like, you know, you she hasn't had a dangerous low and so I'm just really baffles me, but I but I'm not a type one. So I don't know what goes through her brain and we all have, you know, different things that bother us. So it's just something she's working through, you know, we've tried to work with her and you know, you know, she she tries you know, she's like, can you lower the bait helped me lower the Basal send so that I don't, you know, so that I don't the pump doesn't take me too low. And so we you know, that's kind of how we, we've dealt with it.
Scott Benner 33:49
Does she have anxiety about anything else?
Rick Suvalle 33:51
Yeah, I think she's an anxious person. And but like, it's saying she's doing a lot better, you know, in this past few months, you know, she's been just working really hard about trying to get over some of her you know, hang ups, just you know, in terms of, you know, for herself too, because she knows she's gonna go to college and a lot of this stuff will stack up so she's trying to kind of get over these things now which I applaud her for doing Yeah.
Scott Benner 34:15
Oh, I think that I mean, there's clearly a process that they have to go through it like you can't save them from having this experience the only your only real like, like genuine concern in my opinion, is the the you don't want them to get off the rails in a way that the rails the next years of their life or that they find their way back from like I think that's the bigger concern really.
Rick Suvalle 34:37
Yeah, I just remember I got some I remember going I don't know if your Arden went to like any of the diabetes camps you know during the summer but like we went up there we first went to the family camp and then she she's gone every summer since but I remember the counselors had like the took the parents aside for a while and told their stories to us and one of them said Don't get mad at your kids about their blood sugar's you know be because if you start yelling at them about their diabetes, they'll rebel at some point, like we all rebelled, we decided just not to Bolus, and I was like, wow, it just was it opened my eyes. So I've always kept it kind of even keel even when I'm doing exactly what you're doing, you know, which is, hey, by the way, sites old, you know, keep it even keel and never get angry that kind of stuff and you know, obviously we're concerned for her health if she keeps it up certain things and we have, you know, honest conversations about that, but that was I'm so glad I got that advice early on that, you know, try and keep it because, you know, we can all get kind of worked up, you know about things and I work hard not to and I keep I kind of keep my wife is the emotional one about diabetes. And I'm kind of for me, I'm like, I've compartmentalized it. It's all business, you know, like time to change the site time to do this. Your blood sugar's high, you need this many these many units. You know, I'm always talking to kids that way. It's very business oriented. Yeah,
Scott Benner 35:56
no, I think I fall more towards your side of it as well. I listen, Arden had a tough week, last week with her period. And she I saw her fighting with her blood sugar, like for days. And you know, it kind of beat her up by the end of the week. She's like, between my period and my blood sugars, and like schools, like I'm, like, I'm exhausted. So we talked to her Thursday, and we're like, just go to sleep, like, just come back. You don't have class on Friday, like, go sleep it off a little bit. And she's actually did that today. And, you know, it does remind you to take care of yourself. Yeah, and I think the I think the issue can be and this is just me, kind of extracting from conversations I've had with people, but you can get into that situation, be faced with it and say, Okay, I'm going to do the things that help this. Or you can just, like, throw your hands up and be like, Screw it. And people have come on over and over again, you know, in their late 20s to tell their story about college. And they go one way or the other. They're either like, I went there, and I took really good care of it. And I'm good, or I went there and I ignored it the way you were, you'd be worried about and it did me in for for a good stretch of time after that. And then you know, it took me a while to get back to it. And that's the part you know, again, that's just the part I'm trying to avoid. I'm sure she'll be fine. Like it's just, I mean, you're supporting her, you're available. I think that's a big deal. You know, she knows you're there and you'd be willing to help I couldn't set off the Dexcom that part I don't understand that I
Rick Suvalle 37:27
can't do it. You know, I have seen her get angry at my wife for you know bugging her about her blood sugars. And then my she just turned Cher off and I don't have anything either. So but she just then then you know, she's over being angry, you know, few hours later and then share pops back on but that's fine, you know,
Scott Benner 37:45
but that's a mother and daughter thing to maybe just like you don't go out to check on your own kid on the pitcher's mound when you don't send a dad out to talk to their son while they're pitching and it's not going well. So tell me a little bit I picked through your IMDB a little bit but tell me a little bit about your about the path you've been on with animation and what got you to this project.
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Rick Suvalle 42:12
was able to do a couple animated, you know, series episodes early in my career and then kind of, but they were kind of one offs with not people that were like regulars in the business. And I always kind of wanted to get into animation. I've always been a fan of it. And I love you know, the the world building and the creativity involved. So it took me a long time to kind of get my way into animation. So I was you know, biding my time with those Sci Fi Channel movies and Hallmark movies that you see on my IMDb and but then a friend of mine had created this show called the stinky and dirty show on Amazon. And he said, you know, you want to write an episode for me. And I'm like, for sure. And we I actually got I got kind of blocked at the time by Amazon because they felt that like I didn't have animation credits. I didn't have preschool animation credits, it's a slightly different type of writing. And so, but my friends, like, you know, writers, right, you know, I can I can teach him how to come up to speed really fast on that kind of stuff. But he's a good storyteller. And I believe in him. And they initially said no, and then because they I think they were wanting like the Amazon, you know, was new. And they wanted they call these Emmy winners. And eventually, when those people didn't work out kind of rested on their literal laurels. They, you know, not even, you know, putting periods of end of sentences. My friend said, Now, can we bring Rick in? And they said yes. And in the meantime, this friend was such a good friend. He's like, let's let's build you up some street cred and get you on some other shows. And he recommended me for a couple other shows. And I was able to get some animation credits while I was waiting for that. And to Amazon's credit, though, they basically said, Oh, this guy did a good job, maybe next season, we can make him the head writer. So that worked out really fast. And so that that kind of started on the path there. I don't know if that.
Scott Benner 44:08
I'm also wondering if it's when they start off and they want those pedigree people if the pedigree people aren't like, oh, we can steal some money from this real quick and move on. Then you get to the people who really want to work and, you know, it makes sense to me. Does that show still run? Or how long did it go for
Rick Suvalle 44:26
it still, I mean, we got a couple seasons out of it on Amazon. It's still there. People are still discussing the great thing about like, you know, the way streaming is people new people discovered all the time I had a meeting the other day where they're their kids four years old, and it's he's a boy and he loves trucks. And that show was, you know, for your listeners, it's about you know, a dump truck and a backhoe loader who are best friends who solve problems with garbage and resourcefulness. And so, you know, it's very, you know, quote unquote boy show. So you know, anytime before year olds flipping through the dial, they see the The trucks with faces on them. And they're like, I gotta check that out. So we get new fans all the time for sure. So that's still out there.
Scott Benner 45:07
It's interesting how it works the same way for the podcast, there are people who just like find it. Nine years after it started as if it's brand new. It's really Yeah,
Rick Suvalle 45:16
for sure. And there's always a newly diagnosed family every day. So
Scott Benner 45:20
yeah, I don't That doesn't seem like it's gonna stop anytime soon. So then you get that, you get that? I guess? Time, right? How many episodes do you think you wrote on by the time it was over?
Rick Suvalle 45:32
Um, I wrote, I might have written at least 10 episodes on that. And then I was the head writer. So as a head writer, you kind of you work with the Freelancers, and you kind of help shepherd their stories along and then you rewrite all the phases. So you know, a freelancer is not going to know quite know the voices or how we like things written and you know, some story points. So we kind of go in and we kind of rewrite,
Scott Benner 45:59
okay. Does that lead to another job that leads to another job did
Rick Suvalle 46:02
you know I got that. And that led to my relationship with, with Amazon doing some development work. And I ended up working at Disney afterwards, that led to a job at Disney, the same guy who created the stinking, dirty show, he got a job as a head writer over on a Disney show called tots. And he asked me if I would be willing to go be a staff writer for him. And there's not a lot of positions in animation. It's like staff writer, head writer, and then you're either the creator or you're not. And so I said, Sure I'd, I'd love to. And it was like almost like a vacation. I was not the head writer. So I could just write scripts and help break stories with the rest of the writers. And you know, just kind of and then develop my own stuff on the side. And so while I was working there for a couple years, I sold a bunch of shows, original original ideas, or some stuff based on IP. And one of those was one of the things I was developing was Thomas on the side, Thomas and Friends, the reboot. And so that went forward. And in the middle of that a show, I had sold the DreamWorks, my newest show, do drop diaries, got picked up by Netflix. And so I kind of launched Thomas and you know, produced about 32 of the episodes and standalone movie for them. And then I went on to work on the show that I created.
Scott Benner 47:27
Okay, and this this show is coming out right now on Netflix. Yep. Well, what's it about?
Rick Suvalle 47:34
It's called the dewdrop, diaries, and dewdrops are my made up, you know, term for these little family fairies. It's a show about you know, every, every home with kids in the world has fairies, secretly helping them with the little things that can fall through the cracks. It could be, you know, you misplace your last tooth, they see it fall under the bed, and they have to get it onto the top bunk before the kid falls asleep and puts his head on top of the tooth pillow. So the Tooth Fairy gets it in time. Or it could be you left your favorite toy at the park and they got it these little tiny fairies have to bring it, you know, back. And so it's, it's a girl power show, because I've got two daughters and I was inspired by them. So but part of it was I wanted to create this kind of metaphor for little kids that can do anything because you know, a lot of us t one D parents are like, you can do anything, nothing's gonna stop you diabetes. Now, the show is not about diabetes, but it's just that spirit of feeling like I want my kids to be able to do anything so and being little tiny characters. It's a metaphor for being a kid and reaching for big goals. And so, but I felt like if it's a fairy, actually, originally, they weren't fairies. They were just little little characters that helped and dreamer said, could they be fairies? And I said, Well, let me think about it. If you give them magic in flight, you're taking away all the ingenuity and creativity they have to do to get things done. So I said, so what if we compromised, and they're fairies and training, they've got wings, but they can't fly. And they've got one magical power each one can talk to animals one's got some super strength. One has this magical melody that can lull you to sleep. And you know, it's really fun and like we're saying It's girl power. But it's also I want to do a show that I would want to watch as a parent. And so every episode opens with like an action adventure homage to some action movie like Raiders of Lost Ark. And so it's just really fun. So boys and girls can both watch it. It's a preschool show but has fun kind of stakes and danger to it. And yeah, so so I'm really excited about that. And you know, part of me being a T one D dad also was I've got this kind of the secret agenda was having as I hired a T one D on my staff as a production coordinator. I also hired Brec Bassinger, the star of CWA star girl who was a T one D actress and JDRF ambassador, I got her to be I, one of the characters in the show, okay. And she was great. Like, you know, I was DreamWorks. And oh, we asked her to read. I'm like, can't we just make her the offer? Like, and she's like, No, I'll read and it's my birthday. And I'm gonna read on my birthday for you. And I was like, how awesome is Breck? And so that was great. She She read and got the part. And I hope if we get a second season, that I want Nick Jonas to play a dad character on the show as well.
Scott Benner 50:26
Nice. Oh, that's excellent. Man. Is there? Like you said, there's no diabetes in the show? Have you thought about ways to do it? And it just doesn't work? Like, didn't they mean? Like, is it is it too Nishi? For
Rick Suvalle 50:38
people? It is, to a certain extent, I mean, especially in the preschool space. It's, it's too much to explain, especially to kids that don't have it, right. And so, you know, oh, I've got this constant glucose monitor my blood sugar is low. It's really hard to show and especially in that younger age. And even if you look at like, Pixar, a scene read, there's two characters with CGM and pumps. But there was never mentioned of it, right? Because it would slow down story. So it's hard. But if you look at like, the Babysitter's Club on Netflix, I think was Netflix. They had that that has a T Wendy character, and they talk about the blood sugars. And they did a pretty good representation of type one diabetes better than I've seen out there. So it really is hard to, you know, like a preschool space. If you wanted to show a disability, it's probably someone in a wheelchair kind of thing so that they can kind of identify and see it, it just has to do with the comprehension thing at that younger age. I wish there was a way to show it and you know, spread awareness that way. I had a friend who had a live action preschool show. And he was saying, Hey, we're gonna make one of the characters of type one diabetic. I said, fantastic. And he's like, so we're gonna get started debut them on the Halloween episode. What what candies? Can't they eat? Yeah, you're like, I was like, I was like, I don't think you should do a type one diabetic care?
Scott Benner 51:53
Well, maybe you could put a device on one of them and never mentioned it.
Rick Suvalle 51:57
Exactly, just like seeing red dead. I think that's a fun way to do it. And just kind of, you know, it just especially for the kids out there, I think, you know, with seeing red, you know, it's like, it's like, when you see a Dexcom in the wild, right? You know, you see someone at Disneyland and it's on their arm, and the kids are always like, oh, luck, you know. So I think it's that kind of identification. Just like, you know, you don't want it to be like the American Girl doll that has the type one diabetes and has the pump and all that stuff. But again, it is a little bit difficult for that younger age group. And so that's why I really still wanted to, you know, promote awareness by hiring Brack and hiring a type one diabetic on my, on my staff. And so, you know, and just being a T one, D dad, you know, I wanted to just whatever I can do to get the word out about so I know I'm on your show, but I'm hoping to go on mainstream, you know, nondiabetic podcast, and talk about how diabetes was an influence. Yeah. And just really kind of get awareness out that way. For you know, the people older than four years old,
Scott Benner 52:59
well, I have a suggestion for somebody to do a voice who I think has a great voice and as T one, two, from Wizards of Waverly Place, Jennifer stone.
Rick Suvalle 53:07
Yes. Yeah. She's
Scott Benner 53:08
got a great voice. That's my pitch right there. I think she was
Rick Suvalle 53:11
she was one of the two people I we, you know, I think we were circling her and Mary Mauser from, you know, she's rough, Mateos daughter and Cobra Kai, she's a T one D shirt now. And BRAC and so I think we were circling all of them for potential roles in the show. Okay,
Scott Benner 53:28
well, so I didn't have such a new idea. Nevermind.
Rick Suvalle 53:31
No. And Jennifer is actually she works her day job these days. She is a nurse at a hospital right here in Burbank. Yeah,
Scott Benner 53:37
no, I know, I've had her on the show. She was terrific. She was such an normal person that I told her when we were done. I was like, wow, that was you were so great. Like, I've I've interviewed other people who have a degree of fame. And there's sometimes like, you know, a veil between you and them. And she was just she was so cool. It doesn't surprise me actually, she has a pretty popular podcast that she started recently about the TV show that she was on, and it doesn't surprise me at all. So I don't know if you'll find this boring. But I want to understand, like the whole process of pitching a show to Netflix. Like what's that like? And how long does it take? Well,
Rick Suvalle 54:17
so initially, it's I pitched to DreamWorks directly and DreamWorks sold it to Netflix, but similar process. What if I went into Netflix directly? But I had a connection to DreamWorks, you know, a friend, a friend knew one of the executives there and they said, Oh, would you meet with Rick? And they said, Sure. So I came in with an idea. I came in with kind of a three page pitch. And I asked my next door neighbor who is, you know, visual artists to like, draw two pictures of a little tiny character with a leaf hang glider, you know, and that I would add, I bring to the pitch and they pitched it verbally and again, it was they weren't fairies at that point. So they As part of the process, and you know, they liked it, they saw something in it. And they said, Could you make it fairies? And we had that back and forth. And I said, I said, if you do it my way, I think that that'll make it work and make us both happy. And then it just becomes an evolving process there was there was a quite a few back and forth before they purchased the idea for me, right. And eventually, after a couple rounds of notes, they said, Yeah, we'd like to move forward and pay you to develop this with us. But DreamWorks takes, it takes a while, because they they do such a comprehensive pitch package. So they spent a lot of money on, you know, visual development, we did a whole animation test, we brought in, you know, an actress to do a voice test for us with the with the animated character who ended up being so great that she's one of the stars of the show. And so we had, I think it was like a 64 point, PowerPoint presentation, all with art. And so this is bigger than ever. I mean, like, I have the ability to go in and pitch three pages, something directly to a network, but, but having this big, behemoth of Dreamworks, behind me and that pedigree and they're, you know, when they make the deal, they're ready to go into production, you know, and I also had to write a pilot and a series Bible to present as part of this development process. So we had questions, you know, during the development process, the paid development process, like, well, we've got these three dewdrop best friends that live in different apartments, but they're tiny, how do they get in touch with you with each other? Do they have cell phones, and I was like, No. And I remember it was just like, in the moment of like, they have dual alerts, it's kind of like Batman's bat signal, but they shoot out these like butterflies that go and get each other. And that's part of the show. And that was just, you know, we were in the creative roll on that kind of stuff. So. So all that stuff comes together. And we, you know, we eventually go into pitch it to Netflix, and they have a first look deal there. And actually, you know, this is little inside baseball here. But like they actually passed initially, because they had another fairy show in the works. And they're like, but eventually, while we were still pitching it around town, that other ferry show fell out. And Netflix called up and said, Hey, is that still available? And we're like, yes, it is. And so we were able to set that up. But that was a development process on that one was two and a half years or two years. Until we about two and a half years. So we started production. So it's a long process, for sure, especially animation, because then you have to build all the characters you have to mock. It's a 3d CG show. So it's like modeling and rigging the characters and design. And I had meetings that were, you know, I remember having like too many hour meetings about like, the pattern of stripes on one of the characters socks. And I remember eventually going, like, so frustrated, like, Is this really what we're doing? We're, you know, eventually going, can it just be number 11? And like, number 11, they're like, Oh, you'd like number 11. That's the That's it? I'm like, Oh, wait,
Scott Benner 58:00
you're waiting for me?
Rick Suvalle 58:02
Yeah, I was like, Oh, wait, I'm the show runner, I forgot that. I could probably just, you know, tell them what I like. It was very early in the process.
Scott Benner 58:10
How many scripts do you have to have before you go to Animation?
Rick Suvalle 58:14
Ah, you before you sell it? Or once you're in the wetsuit,
Scott Benner 58:18
once you're we're making the show? I mean, you have to send the scripts off somewhere to be automated, right? So do you
Rick Suvalle 58:23
Yeah, for sure. We used a company in France called Team toe amazing animation company. But we would do so scripts are being written, a lot of it overlaps. You know, so once the scripts are written, and you know, every week, a new first draft is due, we had we had an order for 52 episodes. So you know, every, every Monday, I would have a final draft. So 52 weeks from when we start, you know, we'll have all those scripts done. And then but, you know, a week after we finished the final draft, we have a recording session, and we record the voices, and they and then a week after that, you know, I mean, more than a week after that, it takes a while. But the next stage would be we would have like a storyboard launch where we would like meet with the artists and they would kind of look at the script and ask us questions and kind of like do some drawings saying do you mean this? Do you mean that and then we go on to then they do what's called an animatic, which is kind of a moving storyboard, just all black and white sketches. And then after we get notes on that, and refine, they eventually go into animation, they'll do a what's called a a layout pass first where we kind of see those T model pose. It looks like it just a figure that doesn't move or they just move it around like a doll. You know, just so we get that kind of figure out is this the right angle for the shot and you're looking at the that kind of stuff and then they start the actual animation phase and there's a lighting phase and then there's you know,
Scott Benner 59:54
involved in all that are you like, yeah,
Rick Suvalle 59:57
as executive producer and showrunner Um, you know, I'm there for giving music score notes and meeting with the with the composer's, I'm looking at, you know, the boring part of the job is like when they make a leaf, I'm gonna get 45 different angles of a leaf to sign off on. So it's very exciting in the very beginning, but then eventually after you been doing it for a while, you're like, this. Looks like a teacup hold.
Scott Benner 1:00:22
Yeah, cat and see which one at bat. Hey, does. DreamWorks is universal, right?
Rick Suvalle 1:00:28
Yes, yeah, NBC Universal. Do
Scott Benner 1:00:30
they do a lot of animation in France, because I seem to remember Scott Moser living in France for a couple of years to make the Grinch. So I wonder if there's a lot of animation that happens there.
Rick Suvalle 1:00:40
Yeah. Oh, no. There's a lot of different animation series in France. But I mean, there's a lot of them in like Vancouver as well, a lot of places go to India and Korea. But there's quite a few in, in France.
Scott Benner 1:00:53
Yeah. No, I mean, I just don't, that's a really, like I said, I don't know if I can even explain all of that. But Scott used to be Kevin. Well, I guess Scott maybe is Kevin Smith's producer, still. But he's moved on and done some other stuff. And he made the Grinch movie. And I just remember on his Instagram for two years, he suddenly lived in France. And then the movie was ready. And then he didn't live in France anymore. I was like, Oh, that was interesting. You didn't have to go to France?
Rick Suvalle 1:01:18
No, because it was smack dab in the middle of the pandemic. So we had like, every day 9am Our time 6pm their time, we would have like, like an hour meeting to catch up and figure out what needs to be done and give notes. That kind of stuff.
Scott Benner 1:01:31
52 that's a that's a pretty good commitment. Right? 52 episodes?
Rick Suvalle 1:01:35
Yeah, it turns out to be like two Netflix season drops.
Scott Benner 1:01:39
Okay. And then do they? Is it one of those things that you think is like, is it one in donner? Do you think, though, they'll want to talk if it does well? Or do you talk about that hope
Rick Suvalle 1:01:49
is I mean, because it's Netflix, you know, they're going to be data and see how many clicks we get, and how many people watch you know, three minutes, or they watch all the way through and want to watch the next episode. So they'll need at least, you know, probably eight weeks worth of data, like to see if it's a hit. And then if it's, or it could grow, you know, somewhere in between, like, we're talking before, like, stinky dirty, could have a brand new audience, you know, you know, but they could suddenly start to grow and realize, okay, yeah, we'll pick up another season, another production season. So we'll see. I mean, my fingers are crossed. This is my baby. I mean, the show is my love letter to my daughters. And so I really want another season. And I really want to see it continue. And I have an idea on how in another production season, how to show disabilities in a different way. Not quite type one. But I think disabilities are important to be represented on screen. So I want that done. And I've got, you know, so I have ideas on where to take another season of this show,
Scott Benner 1:02:47
you just made me wonder if the people listening to my podcast know that I have to sit in meetings with advertisers and tell them my listen through rate while they're deciding if they want to buy more ads and things like that. freaking mind numbing, and somehow scary at all is like my, the last quarter of every year of my life is spent walking around on eggshells trying and trying to bring the podcast back to people for like another year. And it's you've had some you've had some sponsors have been around forever, which is great. They're very cool. Like the people who support the show are amazing at how they do it. It's the new people that come in, you know, it's a, it's a space that's becoming more and more understood, I used to deal with people who were just like, they didn't know what they were even asking me. But now, now they seem to understand that a little better. So I'm answering a bunch of questions and trying to make a podcast the same time.
Rick Suvalle 1:03:34
Right. And you also get out and you also get these advertisers are very specific to the type of podcasts you have, which is, which is nice, because you know, if you're just another movie review place, you know, you really need to, you know, hear about, you know, whatever, you know, hot hot pot is popular these days.
Scott Benner 1:03:50
I do have as it's gotten larger. I do have like athletic greens and some other stuff that you hear and more podcasts are coming to me, which is terrific and exciting. But you're not wrong. Like there's a lot of comfort, knowing that it's a nice show, and that the advertisers are I mean, I don't know another way to put this, they don't have a lot of options. Right? I'm kind of I'm kind of the guy. So it is very helpful, but it's still no less stressful. Like, you know, sure. I've been doing this for nine years. And if I see two days go the wrong way on downloads. I'm like walking around the house like it's over, forgot it. My wife's like, isn't it Easter? I'm like, that doesn't matter. They could listen. So alright, I feel for you. I hope you can avoid that and just sit back and enjoy the ride. What do your girls think of the show?
Rick Suvalle 1:04:39
They're, I mean, they're a little old for it now. I mean, but I think about I came up with six years ago and it's finally coming out but still they they're great. And my older daughter is interested in animation as a potential career. So so she kind of likes checking out the animatics and I'm actually going to her high school animation class next month to kind of show you The process, you know, I told you all those steps, I'm going to show the opening this I've got this great like opening on the pilot where it's just like, you see little fairy running from like the boulder in the cave from Raiders Lost Ark. And then she jumps out into the light and you realize she was behind the couch and the baby just pushed the soccer ball after her thanks. And so I basically am showing all the different stages of that one, you know, 92nd clip to the class saying, Okay, here's the animatic. And here's the initial drawings. And here's the T pose phase for layout. Here's the animation. Here's the lighting and so, but they did it. I mean, my little, my little one has not so little anymore. She's taller than me now. She's 14, and she's in that very grumpy. Just a teenager, and she does grunts. So I don't know if she likes it. But I think she thinks it's cool that her dad does this, but she won't say anything to me about it. Yeah. When you
Scott Benner 1:05:57
do a gag, like the Raiders thing? Is that for adults watching, is it just for you? Or is it like is that your way of like kind of secretly showing a little kid something that you love?
Rick Suvalle 1:06:08
It's, I mean, it's all of that. I mean, it's like I really want I mean, whenever you try and do a joke, and in especially the younger thing, it has to play on their level. So you can't do you know, verbal, you know, puns as much or you know, verbal jokes that they're not gonna understand, they'll understand, you know, the, you know, they fall on their face. And that's funny. But you know, so that kind of thing. But they're seeing the danger of this giant ball after them going with wide eyes. They're like, you know, this is crazy. But as the parent who's co watching, they're like, oh, my gosh, that's really the Lost Ark. Or they're like, oh, my gosh, that's Tron is that Tron? We're watching? Right? You know, it's like, so they're, they're kind of having a fun time. I like to give those wings to parents. I mean, I just, there's so many shows out there that don't do that, that, you know, the parents like, this is terrible. Why does my kid like this, ya know, but it's like, you want them just kind of, you know, while they're, you know, while you're doing laundry to go stop for a second to go. That's pretty funny. You know, how how long it
Scott Benner 1:07:04
can stick with you too, I can sing, I think I could probably sing the opening to out of the box. And, you know, a couple of other, I mean, a Little Einsteins theme is still running, you know, so it is nice to give something, you know that if I'm in the room with it, at least I can. Maybe you should slip in a couple of esoteric back and forth, the kids will stare through it. But
Rick Suvalle 1:07:26
ya know, it's great. So I do try and do as much you know, humor that I think the adults will watch. And the show is technically what they call Bridge, which is like a little preschool aged up a little bit. So we have a little bit of that danger. But you know, we also have to be careful, like, we don't want to like to see the kid climb on the chair with books on the chair to read something I have to be, you know, cognizant of those type of things.
Scott Benner 1:07:49
Yeah, that's very interesting. Do you? So this is so then you're working on the show. Now, does that preclude you from doing other things? Or how's your
Rick Suvalle 1:07:58
does? I mean, like, I have been exclusive to DreamWorks on past kind of the exclusive phase right now. So they need me definitely during writing phases and certain phases of production to be totally exclusive. I'm always allowed to develop my own stuff, that the question became, like, if it's one of those turns into a job, but development takes so long as we were talking about how it took me two and a half years, you got to get a job in between. So I try and develop a lot of stuff. And but um, I've reached the point in my career where I can probably work on two shows at the same time, you know, maybe take a little bit of a backseat, and we're like consulting producer and one of them and give kind of, you know, very specific notes or sit into like a color correction session or something like that. So it's
Scott Benner 1:08:41
interesting, because I don't think people think about that. I mean, I know I hadn't in the past, but I'm assuming it's, it's not like, it's not like the show runs for this many years. And you get paid every week, right? You still have bills, and you have to live and somebody wrote you a check. And now that part's over, I assume. So now you're doing the work. And you have to keep yourself moving. Like that's,
Rick Suvalle 1:09:02
yeah, for sure. And like when I was exclusive, you know, I had finished the writing phase, but I was still exclusive at that point for looking at animatics. And, and animation and giving notes and that kind of stuff. But I did I got an opportunity. My old show, Thomas and Friends, you know, they said, Hey, we want someone to write a Christmas movie for us next year. Would you be willing to do it? And I just asked DreamWorks Hey, can you give me permission in my contract to work on that movie? And they said, Sure. And so you just it's just got to be aboveboard. You know, if I came in and said, Hey, I want to also show run another show for your competitor, they might be a little less likely to say yes to that
Scott Benner 1:09:40
one. No, thank you. If you have a good idea, give it to us. Is that the idea? Yeah, exactly. But now
Rick Suvalle 1:09:45
like I said, I'm not exclusive at the moment. And so which is great. That's why I'm doing a freelances for other shows coming out. And you know, while I wait to see if we're gonna get picked up for another season,
Scott Benner 1:09:56
it's interesting. It's interesting, isn't it? How everything is changed like when my Kids were a little, like a Pixar movie, for example, like DreamWorks and Pixar were like putting movies out in the theaters constantly. And now it's almost like that. It's not really the focus anymore. Like it's almost like movies come out in theaters as an addition to their being dropping on somebody's streaming service or something like that.
Rick Suvalle 1:10:19
Yeah, I mean, it's very strange. I mean, we've been talking about this lately, because we're talking about getting, you know, talking to DreamWorks about publicity for the show. And like, why haven't we done it yet? I mean, it'll be out there by the time this thing airs. But they The thing is, people don't have the same attention span anymore. So you know, you don't see I like when I was a kid, you know, you would see a trailer for a movie coming out next year, like, you know, 12 months away, or the big summer tentpole, you're getting a Christmas, they don't do that anymore, because no one's going to remember and they don't they only care about the now. So the bulk of publicity for my show is going to happen once it airs, or like in the days leading up, but they'll drop a trailer like a month before. And then in the days leading up, you know, there might be a little bit but the bulk of it's going to happen after because we don't want parents to go oh my gosh. This dewdrop diary sounds perfect for my kid. Where can I watch it? Oh, it's not out yet. Yeah. Forgotten.
Scott Benner 1:11:18
It makes sense. It really does. I, I'm always talking with people about, like, there's so much content in the podcast. And it's so relevant to people. But if I don't keep repackaging it and showing it back up, they start thinking it's old. And I'm like, No, there's, there's a conversation that lasts about 90 minutes about how to Bolus for the fat and french fries. I don't need to do it again. It's right there like it, you know, go use that one. It's interesting. I always have that feeling like if it wasn't for, but at the same time, if it wasn't for that, if that's not how people's minds work, then we'd all be watching mash, though, because that was fine. That was That was great. You know, like, why don't we just do this over and over again. So it's tough, because when you're creating it, you want people to enjoy it. And when you're consuming it, you're like, Where's, where's new and more, I just miss movies. I grew up going to movies, and there's a beautiful movie theater two miles from my house that is sitting absolutely dormant with weeds growing out of the parking lot. And it's hard. You know, it's so sad. Yeah. So. And then in the theaters, you do go to now we're all like, I don't I don't know how to put it. But it's not quite right. Like it's digital. But it doesn't look great. And it's not about the experience of being at the theater. And I don't know, it feels like a thing that's, I wish would come back a little bit. But I might say, yeah, for sure. Anyway, I'll make a bunch of money one day, I'm gonna open up a drive in that that'll be it.
Rick Suvalle 1:12:41
I love the drive. We took the kids when they were little I remember when they when one of my when my little one was first diagnosed for like, what we just wanted to do something with them that we could control and be with them. And like, let's go to the drive in. And there's a few out here in Los Angeles. So that was just I just remember being great night.
Scott Benner 1:12:56
Yeah, we used to my wife used to get off the train even after we were married on Fridays, and we would just rush home get changed real quick drive over, like sit around in the back of the car and watch a movie. And it was fantastic. But anyway, to your point, everybody is moving so quickly that I mean, though we're not even measuring things, as did I turn it on? It's like, did I stay? Like who would have I've walked out of two movies in my entire life. Like, honestly, too, and I'm almost embarrassed to tell you I hated Edward. And I did not like Robin Hood Men in Tights. Those were the two movies. I just got up and I was like, I'm okay. I don't need this. Thank you. But other than that, once you're there, you'd made a commitment. And you you'd sit and watch. You know, I feel like
Rick Suvalle 1:13:36
yeah, there's so much content on television now and streaming that, you know, like, if I'm not drawn in by the first episode, I'm not watching anymore. You know, it's like before you I'll give it one or two episodes, maybe three. And now I'm like, not holding my attention. I'm done.
Scott Benner 1:13:50
I actually, now it's valuable for people to give you a recommendation. Because then you think well, maybe I maybe I should make it to the third episode. They keep saying get to the third episode. But yeah, that's really interesting. So is there anything we haven't covered? Anything that you want to talk about that? We haven't?
Rick Suvalle 1:14:09
Not really, I mean, this has been great. I'm just really excited to talk to you. And like, I've been a fan of the podcast for a while. And so I was excited. When you know, I reached out to you and you were like, Yeah, let's let's chat.
Scott Benner 1:14:25
I couldn't believe it. I was like, I was like the guy with the Arden daughter. He's back. I had no idea what you did really like at that point. I do have a question. Maybe you don't know the answer to it, though. At some point, I imagine you go to your daughter and say, Hey, there's another little girl named Arden. She has diabetes, blah, blah, blah. Does she give a crap or does she just like, Oh, that's interesting.
Rick Suvalle 1:14:45
I think well, I mean, at the time when I told her she's like, that was really cool. I mean, I do remember her saying, wow. But it's like it wasn't like, you know, hey, can we be friends? Or you know, and I think it was pre I mean, the kids were too young to have Instagram like now it's like mind honors, like, you know, she just got into UC San Diego. And it's like, all the people are an Instagram and she's meeting new potential roommates that way, you know, like, and so, you know, back then it was like, Okay, that's great. We did a Facebook message or something, you and I, and I think that's where it ended. But I think she was definitely curious. I thought that was cool because she had never met another art. And now she goes to high school with another art and which is always interesting to me. Oh, that's crazy.
Scott Benner 1:15:23
Oh, that's very, very cool. Yeah, I actually watched art and do the same thing. Getting off to college she met, they found roommates, through Instagram became friends, they all sussed each other out for a while made decisions and everything. And it was it was really cool. Like, even just a few years prior to that my son did it over the phone. And now, you know, it just changes. So what is she going for you able to tell me?
Rick Suvalle 1:15:46
Yeah, she's, I think the degree they have there. It's called Media Arts. So it's kind of some kind of California crunchy type of film degree where you kind of learn philosophies, but you also take still photography, and you do learn film, there might be a little bit of animation, but it's really pushing like, you know, whatever social issue you want into the films that you do and the projects that you do. It's very, like I said, there's a little crunchy in terms of that respect. It's not like straight film school. Yeah,
Scott Benner 1:16:22
I hear what you're saying, you're going to be hiring your daughter in four years, like, Oh, my God,
Rick Suvalle 1:16:25
I hope so. I mean, she's such a great artist that I would definitely use her for character design, if I could. Isn't that interesting?
Scott Benner 1:16:30
Where they're so my, my art and through growing up, maybe there was one year, she seemed to put some effort into an art class. And other than that, just not she was never that person. And leading into her senior year, she says, I want to go to art school to learn how to design clothing. And we were like, you don't sew? And you don't, you've never drawn anything. And I was like, Are you sure? Because our backup was pre law. She's like, okay, that or I'm gonna be a lawyer. And we were like, Okay, and so we supported her, obviously. But when you send her off, you're like, I wonder how this is gonna go, you know? And she sent a drawing back to us. And I was like, wow, is she gonna like, like, power her way through this. And I don't know, like she when she first got there. She's like, I don't know if I can do this. She was a little shaky. And I told her a story. And I sent her a picture. This is going to be very strange for some people. But I, I sent her a picture that Howard Stern drew on the air about 20 years ago. It's a character of somebody he works with. And I sent a picture that he drew of a field near his house in the last couple of years, because he's taken to painting and this sort of in his 60s. And I said, the same person who drew this horrible caricature, painted this. And I said, I've heard him say that anybody can teach themselves how to do this. And so I said, I don't see why you couldn't either. And she sent us something back a couple of months later, and I was like, why I can't find it, show it to you before we go. But I was like, I'm like, Oh, my God, you did this? And she said, yeah, she's like, she just sits in her room and practices like, and she doesn't even want to draw. She's just, that's part of the curriculum, she has to learn how to draw first. And I think she's finally getting to the sewing machines now, but I didn't know what else to do. Because it's, it seems like a thing. I think it seems like a thing, like what you do, or even this thing I'm doing probably seems like magic to people. But it's not like I taught myself to do this. You know, I I taught myself what the equipment was that I taught myself that I recorded, and I listened. I was like, That sucks. I wouldn't listen to this. I'm gonna do it this way. Like, I thought if I could teach myself this, maybe she could teach this to herself, too. So that's very cool. So I want to wish your daughter a lot of luck. And thank
Rick Suvalle 1:18:46
you so so funny. There's so much light because the same thing like my daughter, Arden was taking some animation classes. I never knew that she was even interested in drawing, and then she starts goes into Rome starts doing some drawing, and I'm like, this isn't half bad. And meanwhile, she's like, and if that doesn't work out, pre law, overlays, same thing, same thing, and I was like, Oh, wow. So but the she was gonna go to this other school that has a very animation heavy major. And, and we were all set to go to this expensive private school for her and for next year, and then she turns to me and goes, I don't know if I like the actual animating part like is like learning all that software. I just kind of like to draw and I was like, well, this school is great for that. But if you're interested in like, other stuff, you got to do a better school. Yeah. And and they also have, you can do the visual arts stuff at the other school. And then we went down there and looked I was saying earlier this weekend, just like oh my God, I feel like I belong at this place. And so I was I was happy to hear that.
Scott Benner 1:19:51
Yeah, it's very well organised incredibly comfortable where she is and she definitely she definitely found the right spot. So it was awesome. Yeah, I It's tough to because my son is just like he just wanted to play baseball. Like I mean, he, I think he only went to college, because he was on a baseball team if I'm being perfectly honest. And he's like, I don't know what to major in. And I was, you know, you talk to him, he didn't know. So I was like, well, you're good at math, like do something mathy. And maybe we'll figure it out from there. And he comes out with this, like quantitative econ degree. And he's like, I don't know what to do with this. And I was like, Are you kidding me? So he found a job. He's working for a subsidiary of Sony right now doing like back end sports stuff. So like, all the all the number stuff that you see on television, when you're watching almost every major sporting event is happening, you know, where he works. And, and he started there. But you know, I don't know, I don't know how kids pick something to go off to college and do I mean, you went to school, but like, with what like saying, like, I'd like to write gaming. Yeah,
Rick Suvalle 1:20:59
I mean, I didn't know I had no skills. I mean, I made a video like a spoof of Ghostbusters, when I was in sixth grade, you know, with a big deck to deck video system and got my dad's finger in front of the lens half the time, you know,
Scott Benner 1:21:12
have you ever heard me tell the story on here where I newly married, and I make this announcement to Kelly one morning that I have this idea for a movie and I'm not going to go to work, I'm going to sit home and write it. And I hash out on there all day. And I hash this all out. I put I've probably put 10 pages together. And she gets home and I'm like, here it is. And she reads it and she goes, have you ever read a Bridge to Terabithia? And I said no. Why she was what you're writing it right now. And I was like, Are you kidding me? It was such a down moment. I had this like this house. And there was a fence in the back and beyond the fence in the woods where blah, blah, blah, doing all this? And she's like, Yeah, that's a book.
Rick Suvalle 1:21:56
And that's, that's the hazard of screenwriting is like every time you have that great idea. Like, as you're starting to execute it, you'll read in the trades that like oh, so and so is making that movie. Yeah.
Scott Benner 1:22:08
You always hear about comedians texting each other, like you don't have a joke about like this premise, do you? Because, you know, that's exactly how I felt. And I have to tell you, that really kind of crushed me like because I was like, I only had like this one day, like how many more times is the scroll going to be okay with what I just said to her like, I'm not going to work today, I'm gonna write an idea down. And so and we just like I said, it just there was nobody around us that lived in that space. And so it just felt magical, not not tangible. And anyway, I'm lucky that I got to do any of this stuff. Honestly. That's pretty cool. Well, Rick, I appreciate you doing this very much. I know you can't tell me exactly when when it's coming out. But when people are hearing this podcast, your show will be available on Netflix. Yeah,
Rick Suvalle 1:22:52
they'll be able to find it on Netflix. And I think they're gonna do some kind of big announcement about like Netflix family summer, but that'll already be announced before this. But yeah.
Scott Benner 1:23:02
Oh, that's very cool. Well, when if whenever that announcement comes out, get in touch with me. And I will. I will. We'll put it in the private Facebook group as well and let everybody know what's happening. So awesome. Yeah. Awesome. Thank you. Maybe we'll get your first 40,000 listeners or viewers. Awesome. That'd be amazing. Better. Very cool to talk to you. Hold on one second for me. Okay. Sure. Thanks.
A huge thanks to Rick for coming on the show telling us about his kids his life and his new show do drop diaries. Don't miss it on Netflix. Not only can you support Ric and the show and type on actors, but get this Rick said he told me online just a couple of weeks ago, if the show gets a second season, he's going to let me be a voice in it. I'm going to be a fairy. I mean, if you guys go watch do drop diaries right now. Get going. What are you doing? Don't you want to hear me be a fairy here. I'll do a line from after the music. I'll do it. I have to thank Omni pod for sponsoring this episode. Omni pod.com forward slash juice box and of course drink ag one.com forward slash juice box links in the show notes. Links at juicebox podcast.com. Okay, I have an idea. Hold on a second. Stay with me.
Okay, I have the trailer here for dewdrop diaries. I'm gonna do some lines from it. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I guess that's one of the fairies. The fairies got to be an adult here somewhere.
There there's a father he says. Hmm, someone must be looking out for me today. I can do it. Look how good I sounded. Alright, let's keep going. I'm gonna say you're right. Thanks. I can't be a kid. Like my voice is too deep, right? I could be an animal. I can definitely be an animal's voice. What kind of banana nor could I be get dog. Or what else? You guys aren't much help when I can't talk to you directly. There's a baby. How cool would it be if the baby had a really deep voice in its head? Rick? When the when the baby thought to itself he sounded like me. That'd be funny. Hold on, what else do I have here? I don't think I can play a fairy. My voice I can't get my voice that high. I don't think you want that. You want my nice natural voice? I'm gonna have to be a parent. Alright, that wasn't as helpful as I thought. You know what I'll do here? I was like, it's recess restarting. Give me a second. Fairy show. Dialog. Hmm. That's Midsummer Night's Dream. Hold on a second. What's the very famous fairy? The little one Tinkerbell Tinkerbell script there. There we go. To them. Do you do them? Oh, a narrator I can be a narrator for sure. Have you ever wondered how nature gets its glow? Who gives it light and color as the seasons come and go? I can totally do that. I'm like that guy. With the guy. You know what I mean? The books were rhymes. Anyway, I could do that. I could definitely be an animal. I could do narration or I could be a parent. I have an idea. I have to hold on. But it tells you chat TTP, right. A 32nd promo for the new Netflix show. Do drop diaries. Okay. We'll we'll let the robots take care of this. And then this will be my my coming out. Right. So here we go. I don't know if any of this is right. So get ready for a heartwarming journey like no other Netflix presents the highly anticipated series dewdrop diaries. How was that? Then it cuts to a picturesque town it says then the narrator comes back in the charming town of Douville where dreams come to life. Follow the Extraordinary Adventures of four unlikely friends. Meet Lily the curious bookworm ON HOLD ON A tripped up meet Lily the curious bookworm Max the mich. Alright, so my first read Max the what? Max is the mischievious Max the Miss. Okay, Max, the mischievious inventor meow the talented artists and Ben the adventurous nature lover. Join them. By the way. I don't know if any of these names right this Chechi TP could be out of its mind. Join them as they unravel captivating mystery, solve puzzles and discover the magic hidden within their town. With each episode. Prepare for unexpected twists, heartwarming friendships and lessons that will inspire viewers of all ages. Right? binge watch the enchanting series and let your imagination soar. How was that? Was it good? To be honest with me? Could I do this? I feel like I've got a nice secondary income idea here. I can be a voice actor. I would start a bit Hello. Hi, how are you? I'm Scott. What do you do? Oh, I make a podcast and I do I do voice acting? Yes. I'm very famous. I'm gonna do drop diaries. That's how that's how I'm gonna talk to people. If you guys watch do drop diaries and give them a second season. I have to be honest, I just listened back to it. I don't think I should push my voice so hard. Rick, I'm going to need to be directed. That's for sure. I'm I'm a novice, but I'll come around quickly. I just think with a little bit of direction. And just a little prompting and maybe teach me how to sit up straight. And I have this little thing here. My molift gets a little wet. Like if I could figure that out. Right? Right. I just need a little direction. And then I could be the man. I could totally be the baby's voice or the dad or I mean obviously you already have a dad. So you're gonna need a neighbor. Like so get a neighbor. I'm going to be the neighbor. This is it. I love this. You want me to go slower. I can talk slower, Rick up to speed up and be faster. I can do that too. I'm very versatile.
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#959 Best of Juicebox: Meet Arden
First aired on Aug 02, 2021: This is Arden's first appearance on the podcast.
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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends, welcome to episode 959 of the Juicebox Podcast.
Today's episode first ran on August 2 2021. It was episode 517. And it's called Meet Arden. This is my daughter Arden's first time on the podcast. While you're listening, please remember that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan for becoming bold with insulin, if you love comfortable things like bedsheets, towels, and clothing, go to cozy earth.com. If you don't like spending a lot of money, use the offer code juice box when you check out at cozier thought calm, and you will save 40% off of your entire order. Speaking of saving money, I drink ag one every day, and you could to drink ag one.com forward slash juice box with your first order, you'll get a year's supply of vitamin D, and five free travel packs of ag one.
There are no ads today, but I'm going to use this space here to explain the private and public Facebook groups. So there is a private Facebook group. It's called Juicebox Podcast type one diabetes that has 40,000 members in it. And it like I said is private, but it's also completely free. Now, there is a public page for the podcast. That's called Juicebox Podcast. A lot of you might be thinking I thought it was called bold with insulin. Well it was, but now it's called Juicebox Podcast. So there's a public page where every day you'll get posts about what's on the podcast or stuff like that. And then there's a private group where people are talking and helping each other with diabetes. That's the difference. Them's what they are, etc, and so on. It seems confusing, but it's not public page Juicebox Podcast, private group Juicebox Podcast, type one diabetes, you really should check them out. They're both fantastic. All right, you're about to listen to one of the most popular most downloaded most streamed episodes in the history of the podcast. This is Arden. Hello friends. Welcome to Episode 517 of the Juicebox Podcast.
In August of 2006, our two year old daughter Arden was diagnosed with type one diabetes. Much like all of you, this took us completely by surprise. We didn't know anything about autoimmune issues, even though now with hindsight we can see different ones in my wife's family. I'm adopted, of course, so I don't have any medical knowledge of things like that. But we were blindsided on vacation at the beach at a big family gathering. Our daughter was just wasting away and dying. And suddenly we knew what was happening. I don't think that our life has ever really been the same since then. It's much better in some ways, and there are obvious deficits. Anyway, I'll tell you a little more in a second. But remember, while you're listening that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, please Always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan or becoming bold with insulin. This episode of The Juicebox Podcast is sponsored by the Dexcom G six continuous glucose monitor. It is also sponsored by Omni pod makers of the Omni pod dash. You can find out more about the Dexcom and get started@dexcom.com forward slash juicebox. Or to learn about the Omni pod promise and see if you're eligible for a free 30 day trial of the Omni pod dash go to Omni pod.com forward slash juice box. Before we get started, I want to remind you that Arden has just turned 17 That she's never been on a podcast before and that I asked her before we started for one thing I just said please just be honest. Be yourself The goal here with this episode was for you to get to know Arden a little bit. Before we got started with a series, where I'm going to talk to her about things that I'm hoping she'll do for herself and her health. As she gets older and goes off to college, I didn't want you just to not know who she was because Arden has a very sarcastic sense of humor. She's dry, she doesn't have a filter. I know some of you may have expectations of who Arden is. But by the time this is over, you'll know for sure. Hope you enjoy this episode. I really enjoyed sitting with my daughter and making it I have to say that this podcast has afforded me a lot of wonderful things. And to sit down across to my daughter and talk like this is one of them. I hope you enjoy getting to know Arden. I really love talking to her. If I'm being honest, I don't think she ever. But here we go. Alright, we're recording now ask your question again.
Arden Benner 6:01
No, that's not for this and just keep going.
Scott Benner 6:06
I'm going to ask, I'm going to answer you now.
Arden Benner 6:08
No, I don't know. I don't want this used.
Scott Benner 6:15
So if you want to curse, you can curse and it gets beeped out.
Unknown Speaker 6:17
That's stupid. Why would I curse then?
Scott Benner 6:20
People can still tell what you said. Very well. And I'll just so the reason I don't have cursing on the podcast is because children listen, no, they don't. They do. And because it would preclude me from being in certain countries on iTunes. So those are the two reasons. Do you want to introduce yourself?
Arden Benner 6:41
No. You all know who I am, we can proceed
you can drag it out there with the water because I need hours.
Scott Benner 6:53
Alright, so first, let's be honest with people tell them while you're doing the podcast,
Arden Benner 6:58
I need a parking spot at my school and I have no community service hours. And and I you know I should get community service for being alive. But that's not enough. So I'm here.
Scott Benner 7:08
Okay, so we went to your what? We went to the school and we asked them if being on the podcast would count. And they said yes. Yeah,
Arden Benner 7:17
a little bit. Yeah. They said, that's fine. That was very nice to them. They didn't have to do that. Yeah. I mean, Paul didn't have to get community service for being related to me. But that happens. So
Scott Benner 7:24
you're saying when Cole was in high school, he got some community service because his sister had diabetes?
Arden Benner 7:28
Yeah. Which seems, you know, horrible. But whatever.
Scott Benner 7:32
I think maybe his his guidance counselor was just trying to help them out. But
Arden Benner 7:36
you think, why are you talking to me like I'm for?
Scott Benner 7:39
I'm not talking to you like you're for? This is gonna be so strange. So two things. First of all, I've never interviewed somebody face to face before. So it's a little weird for me. Hey, look at the wall. I don't know what you're doing here. But of all the people in our family, you and I talk the most though. Like we're the chattiest of the four. Yeah, right. Okay. So like when we get in the car, and we drive somewhere we talk the whole time.
Arden Benner 8:03
No, but all right.
Scott Benner 8:05
We talked last night, we took Samsung home in the rain.
Arden Benner 8:08
That was a, you know, different scenario. But all right, what scenario was it? You know, breaking laws?
Scott Benner 8:14
Oh, you just driving through some floodwater? It was fine. Okay. So I'm going to, here's my plan for this. It's a very loose plan. We're going to get to know you in this one. Okay, around diabetes. And then we'll talk in future episodes. And I will be you and I will be talking together about the idea of sort of transfer of power, like diabetes power from me. And mom, to you. Right. And that process? Okay, yep. Sounds good. Okay. And on a scale of one to 10? How excited are you to do this about a
Arden Benner 8:54
three? Okay, not at all? Is it that was way higher than I'm actually thinking? So
Scott Benner 9:01
let me ask you about that first thing. Is this just something in general, you wouldn't do? Like if someone else asked you to be on their podcast? You'd be like, I don't want to do that.
Arden Benner 9:09
Yeah, I don't see the point in this. You don't think I have no knowledge about anything? I'm just the name.
Scott Benner 9:15
So this is very interesting. Okay, because everyone who comes on this podcast, I'm seriously everyone later will say to me, Hey, if you don't want to use that episode, I understand. I know, we didn't talk about anything. But I've used every episode that I've ever recorded, with the exception of a couple because of like other personal reasons for people. But the point is, is that everyone share something that's really helpful to other people. So you might not know that you have some good information or something to share. That'll be valuable, but you do. Okay. Yep. All right. So, first serious question. Do you what's the earliest you remember having diabetes
Arden Benner 10:01
Question is that I don't know,
Scott Benner 10:03
what's your first memory of it?
Arden Benner 10:05
I don't know. Do
Scott Benner 10:06
you remember having it when you were two?
Unknown Speaker 10:10
I don't even know what
Scott Benner 10:11
I would think. No, I'm just asking the question. Yeah, I
Arden Benner 10:13
don't know. I remember yesterday, like, I don't understand what type of question this is.
Scott Benner 10:17
Do you remember when you were five? Like, that's kindergarten? Do you remember having diabetes in kindergarten? Yeah, I
Arden Benner 10:23
don't think about it like that.
Scott Benner 10:25
I know. That's what we're trying to get to. I think that you consider diabetes in a much different way than a lot of people do. So that's what we're trying to get to. Okay. You understand what I'm saying? All right. You're combative witness here. You don't have to be combative. Just answer the questions. If you don't know, say, I don't know. It's fine. Here's the question for you that will answer at the end of this episode. Try to think of on this podcast. What word has most frequently came after the word artists? It's art. And and then second word? It those these two words are used most frequently together? One of them being your name? Yeah, I
Arden Benner 11:08
know what it is. What is it? Period? You got it that quickly? Yeah. If someone right now, you have your period right now, you wouldn't ask me that. But no, my period right now.
Scott Benner 11:19
Okay. All right. So let's not ask you about how far back you remember, diabetes instead, let's let's talk about the way you think about it. So in the course of a regular day, when's the first time you think about diabetes?
Arden Benner 11:35
I don't, I don't think about it. Ever. Literally ever. I don't think about it.
Scott Benner 11:41
If I asked you to do word association, I said, Arden is you would never say diabetic. Right? No, but you know, you have diabetes, obviously. Yeah, no, no, I have no idea. But you just don't. You don't see yourself that way.
Arden Benner 12:00
No, I don't see myself that way.
Scott Benner 12:02
So it's not a weird question. Because a lot of people do. Or more importantly, a lot of parents are afraid that that's how their kids are going to see them. All right. So did you know when you were a little kid, and you would come home from school? The first thing I would say to you is what's your blood sugar? No, I have no idea. You don't remember that. So that's a really impactful thing for me. Because it, it took me a little while. But I realized that I wasn't even looking at you. I was just worried about the diabetes. And so I consciously stopped myself from asking about it. And you got home even when there were times when I thought that I thought your blood sugar might be low or that you could be in some sort of trouble or something like that. I would stop myself. I'm sure it wasn't listening to a word you said when I got I think this is important for people to hear. Because I had a lot of anxiety around it at the time. And you now or how old 17 and you have no memory of it whatsoever.
Arden Benner 12:56
Yeah, memory a lot of stuff that happens. So
Scott Benner 12:59
do you remember anything in your life? Like, I don't remember very far back in my life. I'd never have been able to
Unknown Speaker 13:05
fit some pieces. I don't know. Yeah, but you have a very good
Scott Benner 13:09
memory for like, present day stuff.
Arden Benner 13:12
Yeah, yeah. losses, tests and quizzes.
Scott Benner 13:17
Because, like, you'll get up in the morning and have had like a really weird dream or something. And you'll tell me about it in really like specific detail.
Arden Benner 13:25
Yeah, that's probably a psychological thing. Like an issue. I don't have any problems like that.
Unknown Speaker 13:32
Yeah, yeah.
Scott Benner 13:35
You seem like you're gonna be okay. So far.
Arden Benner 13:38
Like, I was like, looking at this timer.
Scott Benner 13:43
Don't look at don't watch that. We're just talking. Trust me, that takes people 15 minutes just to relax. Okay. So, but back to my original question. So when is the first time you'd think about insulin or diabetes? Or do you not even think of it as diabetes? Just think of it as I'm going to eat?
Arden Benner 14:00
Yeah, I don't think diabetes. Okay.
Scott Benner 14:04
How frequently do you think you use the word? Literally, never. I don't think I do either. Like outside of this podcast. I don't think I say diabetes in my personal life. Yeah, such a long word. They could have named it something better. Don't
Unknown Speaker 14:17
you find the beats fair? What you would call it No, no. But what if you're
Arden Benner 14:24
diabetic and you have the fat as your diabetes? That's what lives tells me your friend tells you that if I ever you know get sick, I'm a diabetes. Oh, okay. In the winter, you know, like when you put on weight
Scott Benner 14:39
like so, like like a bear you're gonna go into a cave and hibernate for
Arden Benner 14:42
a while. Everyone gets bigger in the winter died. Okay. So
Scott Benner 14:46
well. So you brought up your friends you brought up live? How much do your friends know about a defect?
Arden Benner 14:55
I know nothing. Nothing. I don't know. They I honestly have no idea. I could not tell you. I don't even know if they know I'm diabetic.
Scott Benner 15:04
I know that they don't appear to have any even general knowledge about it. Yeah. So I think parents listening would then wonder how that happens. Because their concern is that other people might see their children as only like a person with diabetes. But you have a close group of friends and they don't. They don't even understand anything about it. Right? Yeah. Have you ever said to them like, this is my Chivo hypo pan. This is how it works. What that means, so you, so you have no idea what the hell? Okay, so you know, you're carrying glucagon?
Arden Benner 15:35
Yeah, it's in my purse, right? Yeah. Purse, the purse. But you don't know what it's called? The in the package, right? Yes. Yeah. I don't even know how to use that. Okay.
Scott Benner 15:45
Well, now's a good time. They're
Arden Benner 15:46
not gonna think you're a great dad outside of this.
Scott Benner 15:48
Well, I It's a Hypo pen. It's this. Alright. You
Arden Benner 15:52
don't need to teach me right away. Fine. But
Scott Benner 15:54
in front of everybody. This is important. You know, I've showed this to you. Right? Yeah. I
Arden Benner 15:58
just have no recollection of how to use it. Okay, because I won't get in that situation.
Scott Benner 16:03
Well, this is super book. You don't think it'll ever come up? No. You don't think you could have like a mistake or a problem or something that could happen? No, I'm completely fine. You're completely fine. Yeah.
Arden Benner 16:11
I've gotten to 20 before and, you know, strong brain I have. I can keep myself awake. Your brain.
Scott Benner 16:18
Your brain holds up it? Yeah, I'm like, okay, so But seriously, for people listening. I've showed this to you.
Unknown Speaker 16:26
Yeah. cap off.
Arden Benner 16:28
I'm aware. You've showed that to me. Okay.
Scott Benner 16:31
But you didn't remember? No. So this is so this is? I'm very glad you're honest. Okay. I seriously, because I think that that's could be one of those things that people right now are like, Oh, my God. You mean, my kid might not remember this. I explained this to them. It's super important. If
Arden Benner 16:47
your kid is older than 15 when they walk out the door, they're not listening to you. Just so you're aware. I went on my first drive after I got my license mom screaming stuff in my ear. And I was like, Yeah, that sounds good. Okay. You don't know. I was out the door. I don't even know what she was talking about. She told me not to drive into a tornado. And I was like, no.
Scott Benner 17:08
So it's interesting, because mom doesn't want you to die generalized. She's just like, Don't crash into anything. That's her worry. And I really am more concerned that you're what's the only thing I said to you when you left? Check your blood sugar. Yeah. And make sure you're I always do that. Yeah, it makes sure your Dexcom is not silenced. Right.
Unknown Speaker 17:26
Yeah, well, I
Arden Benner 17:27
mean, it's kind of just look car. It's not it's gonna last at me. So
Scott Benner 17:30
is it beep really loud when it's on? CarPlay?
Arden Benner 17:33
No, that was alive. But um, but I do use it. So it makes no sound at all.
Scott Benner 17:39
What is it because your phone is muted. Now my phone's not muted? Well, it must be because so this is another interesting thing that we go through all the time. You kids in general, you don't like your phones to make notification sounds? Yeah, cuz of school. Right. But then it stops the Dexcom from making notification sounds to
Arden Benner 17:58
it was making them all day in Buffalo Wild Wings in Buffalo Wild Wings. Yeah. Because like, Ah, so loud.
Scott Benner 18:05
So I think it's important for to, especially while you're driving.
Arden Benner 18:10
Yeah, I'm completely I'll check. I mean, you know, I'm not supposed to go on my phone while driving. But like, I check it. Okay.
Scott Benner 18:17
So you understand, but you understand why though,
Unknown Speaker 18:19
right? Yeah,
Arden Benner 18:20
I'm aware. Okay. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 18:22
Okay. I'm being like interrogated. We're just talking. Okay. All right. It's not eye contact with me.
Scott Benner 18:33
There's a lot of eye contact. Yeah, it's weird. All right, let me drink some water.
Unknown Speaker 18:37
You want to sing? No.
Scott Benner 18:40
You have such a pretty singing voice though. Okay. Okay, so you don't really identify at all with diabetes, but you're not embarrassed that you have it.
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Arden Benner 22:24
i i don't i don't think about it. Like,
Unknown Speaker 22:27
at all. Yeah,
Scott Benner 22:28
I don't care. Like if somebody at school said no one at school says anything. Right? But if they did, you'd have no trouble being like, yeah, I've diabetes.
Arden Benner 22:37
Yeah, no one. I can say that. Like, I'm aware people at my school are intimidated by me. Um, so I've been told. So no one really approaches me. And if they do, I'm actually very nice person. You're very nice. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I should probably be given metal for that. But, you know, why would
Scott Benner 22:58
these people think you're not approachable? At my school? Yeah.
Arden Benner 23:02
Very quiet. You're quiet? Yeah, I don't, you know, like, I don't talk to talk. Once. when class is over. My headphones are in and I'm out the door.
Scott Benner 23:09
Okay. Are you like serial killer? Quiet? Do you think that I'll talk to you because they're afraid of you
Arden Benner 23:13
know, maybe I'm not maybe that's good.
Scott Benner 23:18
Okay, but hypothetically, if someone came up to you in school and was like, mocked you or tried to make fun of you,
Arden Benner 23:25
I cannot see that happening. Okay. I'm taller than half of the guys at my school. No one's doing that to me.
Scott Benner 23:31
What if a nine foot person came in? Would you? Would you just be like, Yeah, I have diabetes. Leave me alone. I don't care what you think.
Arden Benner 23:37
I wouldn't. I would walk past them. Okay. Yeah, I wouldn't say anything. Okay. Mock me.
Scott Benner 23:43
Do you think? Yeah, like, what if somebody tried to so there was a woman on here once, who shared with me that during the AIDS epidemic, she was younger. And like her friends, like, there were kids at school that would call her like, diet aids or something like that, like make, like really try to come out or about diabetes through like the AIDS thing. But like, if that happened, you wouldn't would you not be upset? I think you would think it was kind of funny.
Arden Benner 24:10
diet aids. That's horrible. I'm gonna new name.
Scott Benner 24:13
I know. I thought so I forget exactly what she said. But when she told me I did think that's like such a bad thing. Like who came up with that? Alright, so do you know your laid back? What? Are you aware that you're a laid back person?
Arden Benner 24:27
Oh, I think there's crazy people in the world. And there's not crazy people in the world. And I don't think I'm crazy. You just think
Scott Benner 24:32
you're not a crazy person. Yeah. Okay. But you don't see that in general that your attitude is relaxed.
Arden Benner 24:38
No, I just I feel normal. Well, yeah, you're you. Yeah.
Scott Benner 24:42
Here's a different way to think of it. When you look at me and you look at Mom, do you see that your personality might be more like mine and like mom's? No, you don't think of it that way.
Arden Benner 24:52
No, I think I work more like mom. You work like mom. Yeah.
Scott Benner 24:55
What about your sense of humor?
Arden Benner 24:58
I'm my own person, Dad. Yeah. Thank you very much. You
Scott Benner 25:00
don't want to identify with me at all in this conversation.
Arden Benner 25:03
Oh, no, as you get older, I don't really want to say that my sense of humor is like yours because it's getting worse. You see, you
Scott Benner 25:09
think my sense of humor is getting worse? Yeah, I
Arden Benner 25:10
think ranking in the family I'm now above you. You're above me in the sense of humor. I think me and the dogs are only one of the dogs actually,
Scott Benner 25:19
mom and Cole are nowhere near
Arden Benner 25:20
Yeah. Wow. It's like, You guys never want them on this. ever put her gas station voice on. She'd be super sweet.
Unknown Speaker 25:32
She'd be really sweet and nice. Yeah, yeah.
Arden Benner 25:36
And then we'd finish and she'd be like, Oh, my God is people.
Unknown Speaker 25:39
And she wouldn't say that. She'd be talking about you about me. Okay, great. Very nice. People. I
Arden Benner 25:45
mean, you. You have a lot of leaping to do on this just kind of comes out to me.
Scott Benner 25:50
I understand. Yeah, I can see you getting more relaxed. So that's good. Okay. All right. Well, I find what you're talking about interesting, because I've spoken to so many people who don't feel this way. And yet, I think that you are tackling it from a common sense approach. As far as I can tell. I don't see why. Why you should identify yourself as a problem, or an issue or a size or height or a hair color or anything like that. So hair color. Yeah. Like if somebody's your hair changes color sometimes. Yeah, I
Arden Benner 26:21
was gonna say.
Scott Benner 26:24
But you don't mean like, I don't think that ain't me. If somebody called you, Blondie and you had blonde hair. I don't know how you can get your feelings hurt by that. So I don't understand. So there's a I'm with you. I don't understand either. But I do know that there are plenty of people who feel that way. And it's very real for them. And it's an issue for them. So I was just wondering about you. So people listening might assume that because you were diagnosed so early in your life, that you really don't have any knowledge of not having diabetes.
Arden Benner 26:55
I literally I don't, I could not tell you. I literally have no knowledge of anything. I don't know. Like, I just don't think about life like that. Yeah, at all.
Scott Benner 27:04
Okay, no, I understand. I hear you. So of the things that you do know, like, let me ask you this question. If I if I if I just disappeared? Right? I just pooped off the powwow. Right? Like the snap happens. Nom gone. Mom's gone. I'm gone. But they keep sending the diabetes supplies to the house called gone. Doesn't matter for this scenario.
Unknown Speaker 27:28
I think it does.
Scott Benner 27:31
You think you can take care of yourself. Okay.
Arden Benner 27:34
Yeah, probably.
Unknown Speaker 27:35
I'll be fine. Yeah.
Scott Benner 27:37
I'm thinking about going away to college. What parts of it?
Arden Benner 27:41
Oh, the only part that I'm gonna up is alarms when I'm sleeping. That's it. That's, that's my only problem. Okay. I do not hear anything at all. And I have a problem if I do hear. I just keep sleeping.
Scott Benner 27:55
So even if you were so even if you were to hear
Arden Benner 27:59
like last night, I was like mid sleep and I was like, Berber rubber. And I was like, Oh, someone will get it. Someone will get it. Yeah, I didn't feel good. I went to bed.
Scott Benner 28:06
Yeah. So you're sure your blood sugar was like too low last night for a couple hours?
Arden Benner 28:10
Yeah, I hear it beep in my room. And then I hear it beeping your room. And I think Whose turn is it? Dad's?
Scott Benner 28:18
Have you ever once gotten up and done something? Oh, yeah. Yeah,
Arden Benner 28:21
well, that I haven't gotten up. I just haven't gone to sleep yet.
Scott Benner 28:25
Okay, so if you think I'm asleep, and you're still awake, yeah. Then you'll do something
Arden Benner 28:30
like all last summer, like when we were like COVID Like we cannot leave the house. I used to call doesn't know this. But I used to like really late at night. I'd be up to like three in the morning and I was like binge watching the Percy Jackson movies. And I would text Kobe that call my blood sugar is so low. Please get me a drumstick and some Tostitos. Like I really don't feel good, this whole thing. And he'd like run downstairs and get them and my blood sugar was completely fine. That's horrible. Yeah, don't stop. I am so glad he doesn't listen to this. Because I want to try that again. No, don't
Scott Benner 28:59
do that. Dad. Come on. I don't know. It seems efficiency. Efficiency for whom? Me. But to my original question, you'll hear I mean,
Arden Benner 29:13
the first couple of times it was low, right? Oh, and then after that, I was like, ah, Ooh, looks like it's working. Okay. All right.
Scott Benner 29:24
So, but wrapped around that idea. I mean, you're thinking of going to college, right? Yes, I can get in. Yeah. So you're not thinking you're going to college somewhere locally, where you'll live here? No. So what are you going to do?
Arden Benner 29:37
I don't understand what your question is. What am I gonna do about what what are you going
Scott Benner 29:40
to do if your blood sugar gets like dangerously low?
Arden Benner 29:44
Take care of it. I don't. This isn't a worry. Like, I don't understand what the big deal is about this.
Scott Benner 29:50
It's interesting. So you don't remember having a
Arden Benner 29:53
seizure? You're gonna say no, but
Scott Benner 29:57
not. You've been using an algorithm for a while now. stops your blood sugar from getting super low. You don't remember, I do
Arden Benner 30:04
remember what it was like without it? Yeah, I'd haven't had it that long. Okay. Yeah, I'll be fine. Yeah. Wait, are we still gonna have it? Pause?
Scott Benner 30:15
Well, so there's a good question, right? What if the, what if it just what if the loop just disappears?
Arden Benner 30:20
That, you know, doesn't seem like it's gonna happen? Okay, why would that white?
Scott Benner 30:25
There's a lot of reasons that could happen.
Arden Benner 30:28
Oh, I think you're wrong about that.
Scott Benner 30:29
It's just people on the internet making a thing. Okay. And it needs like other stuff to work? What if this? What if the company stopped making the stuff?
Arden Benner 30:37
That was that company making money there? Ask them to stop making that.
Scott Benner 30:41
Okay, so you're not worried about losing the algorithm?
Arden Benner 30:44
Everything I I'm such a mellow person, whatever, go with the flow, you'll be okay. We'll be fine.
Scott Benner 30:50
Are you? Do you know that I'm, I'm thinking that you should try the Omnipod five when it comes out? I have no idea what that is. Okay, so Omnipod is gonna have their own algorithm that's gonna come out. And I was thinking we should try that. Because that would take away the orange link. Okay. You just want it to work.
Arden Benner 31:11
I really don't care about any of this, like all this, that this that like, if people who listen to this understand what they're doing and listen to this for like, like the knowledge of diabetes, I don't understand what you're, you're not gonna I could never do that.
Scott Benner 31:26
Okay. Well, but what? So the question is, then, do you realize I forget in the moment, but do you realize that one day, you're going to need to understand that?
Arden Benner 31:40
How this works? Yeah. I think I understand this better than half of these people.
Scott Benner 31:44
You know, any of these people? I
Arden Benner 31:47
know. I don't know them. But you know, but well, but you're used to listen for a reason. No, some people just listened because they like, I don't think that's true.
Scott Benner 31:54
You believe that no one could possibly listen to this because they enjoy it. Do you think they're just getting answers? And that's it?
Arden Benner 32:01
Yeah,
Scott Benner 32:02
I think that's not right.
Arden Benner 32:04
I think you're not right.
Scott Benner 32:08
So let me tell you what they tell me. Okay. All right, is that there? There can be this loneliness that happens. For some people, okay. There can be loneliness that happens where they don't know another person that has type diabetes, like no one else. So if they have a problem, or a fear or something like that, there's no one to talk to, and no one to get answers from. So this can actually serve as like a community for them here because people come on and talk about their diabetes. That's the last thing I want to talk about. You don't want to talk about that. But that's fine. If that's not what you want to talk about. But is it nice to think that if one day you did that, there'd be somewhere you could go to find,
Arden Benner 32:48
you know, because I genuinely don't think I would ever do that in my entire life. You don't think you'd want to talk to other people, like you could all be really nice people. The last thing I want to talk to you about is diabetes. Okay,
Scott Benner 32:58
so you just want to if you met some of these people, you would just want to talk about something different.
Arden Benner 33:02
Yeah, I am not a diabetic warrior, like anyone else. No, no, no.
Scott Benner 33:07
So so you don't I listen. First of all, I find this very interesting. I know this about you. But I mean, we've never said it back and forth to each other. I'm I mean, I was gonna say proud, but I don't think there's anything to be proud of, I think you're just acting like yourself. Like, I think this is how your personality adapts to this situation. I think if, if, if if I had diabetes, I would react differently than you do. And just as everybody else would. But it's, I don't know, it's very interesting, because the algorithm, as an example, is not easy to get set up. Which is one of the reasons why I would like you to go on on the pod five. And I'm hoping I Have My Fingers crossed that it's going to work well for you. Because I don't think you're going to be the kind of person who's going to want to sit down and make an app and upload it on your phone for the rest of your life.
Arden Benner 34:00
And when he was talking about you do though, don't you have make an app?
Scott Benner 34:05
Certainly sat here with me while we've put the loop app onto your phone through that computer? Yeah, I
Arden Benner 34:10
go to sleep on the ground. Like, I'm not part of that. You just lay on the floor with your turn. So you're unaware, I don't even know what your term means. I don't know what I do to contribute to that. I think I put my passcode in. And I don't even know my passcode
Scott Benner 34:26
I'm trying to decide how people listening are feeling right now. If they're if they're like, wow, like you might hate me. Well, they might. I don't think they're gonna hate you. But so listen, if I had to guess I think most adults with type one will hear you and think it's a very relaxed attitude that will take you a very long way with diabetes. And I think some of the parents might be thinking, wow, this is cool, you know, to see that she's not burdened by it. That is probably their biggest worries that their kids are burdened. You know what I mean? Because some people really are, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's just It's how I mean, you're lucky that you don't have like a an anxiety disorder, for instance, because you would feel completely different maybe. So,
Arden Benner 35:04
yeah, I can't I don't know. I can't speak for them.
Unknown Speaker 35:07
I don't know. Of course, the idea. No, I
Scott Benner 35:08
know. I understand. All right. Well,
Arden Benner 35:11
they gave me two other disorders. You know, I'm good.
Scott Benner 35:15
What else you got going on over there?
Arden Benner 35:17
A bunch of stuff. That's why Cole said to me, he goes, You're not wearing a mask anymore. And I was like, I'm vaccinated, and the chances that I get COVID vaccinated with three other autoimmune diseases. I was like, I don't believe in God, but like, he's not doing that.
Scott Benner 35:32
You think you think that you've had your share of tough luck? And yeah, nothing else could happen. Yeah. You know, that's not how COVID works, right?
Arden Benner 35:39
No, I'm aware of, I'm not an idiot, but I am vaccinated. Okay, you should all get vaccinated.
Scott Benner 35:43
So you're vaccinated. And you have one
Arden Benner 35:47
of those celebrities that they like pay to like, be vaccinated. Like they pay them definitely pay those people.
Scott Benner 35:56
Say, what else? You have hypothyroidism? Yeah. And what else? You said three things.
Arden Benner 36:02
Yeah, I do something. I don't even know I have something else. And I don't know what it is. Oh, iron deficiency,
Scott Benner 36:07
iron. Well, no, but we think that's not that.
Arden Benner 36:11
I don't even know what's wrong with me.
Scott Benner 36:13
Right. Yeah. It's because it's so hard to keep up with
Arden Benner 36:16
a lot of blood comes out of me.
Scott Benner 36:20
So I think what we've, what we've kind of landed on for you is that your iron was getting very low. Because your your period was really why are you giggling? It's because I say Arden's period a lot. I've never said it in front of you before. This, you have not while someone else was not was recording to us right now. All right, so fine.
Arden Benner 36:40
Let's feature them. Okay.
Scott Benner 36:42
So you're, you're sort of, I guess people will know this anyway. But you were bleeding for like a really long time every month. Yeah, I still believe but but. But not for 11 or 12 days at a time anymore.
Arden Benner 36:55
No. Yeah, I forgot to take birth control, by the way.
Unknown Speaker 36:59
You forgot it today. Yeah. Oh, today. Yeah.
Arden Benner 37:02
Oops. Ever.
Scott Benner 37:04
So Arden's taking like a low dose of birth control now, which regulated our periods and allowed your iron to come back up.
Arden Benner 37:10
This is time for all the men to just skip the portion like oh my god, no, it's important
Scott Benner 37:14
because because iron issues with people with type one are kind of common, as are like thyroid, celiac stuff like that.
Arden Benner 37:24
So yeah, I know, like 100 people who have iron deficiency, do you really live has it? Okay. Yeah. I'm just told that if you stand up and you're like, seeing whatever, you have i deficiency and that's like, half of my grade apparently.
Scott Benner 37:38
So half of your grade stands up and gets woozy or they're drug addicts. I don't really not sure. So either
Arden Benner 37:45
you're in this generation or doing
Scott Benner 37:47
you think either their iron is low, where they're on the smack. Is that right? Okay. Yeah, whatever floats their boat is heroin big in the high schools. I actually don't know. It's good. You don't do any drugs?
Arden Benner 37:59
I don't do any drugs. I am drug free other than whatever happened insulin I take and all that super
Scott Benner 38:05
interesting. Do you know what your your insulin is called? No, I don't know. But you
Arden Benner 38:10
have to know because you switch it on me. And then you try to mess with my head. But
Scott Benner 38:13
the one so we tried fiasco. Yeah. I hate that. You don't like because it burns? Yeah, but it works really? Well.
Unknown Speaker 38:20
I disagree. Okay.
Scott Benner 38:22
What's the other one called? I don't know. Take your best guess. I don't know. I'll tell you. It begins with an A dad.
Unknown Speaker 38:30
I don't know. You really don't know the brand name. I
Arden Benner 38:32
have no idea what it's called. Alright.
Scott Benner 38:35
So your insolence called a Pietra?
Arden Benner 38:38
I also wasn't aware that it was an omni pod until like two years ago, I thought was AMI
Scott Benner 38:44
he thought it was AMI pod? Yeah.
Arden Benner 38:47
I don't care. Like I'm not looking at the logo on it like this the last thing? Yeah, so apparently, I've been telling everyone I'm wearing the wrong thing. But
Scott Benner 38:55
whenever you didn't know there was an end in it.
Arden Benner 38:57
No, I had no idea I thought was oh, am I? I don't even know what Omni means.
Scott Benner 39:02
I think AMI means one. Yeah,
Arden Benner 39:05
well, they don't teach us at school. So.
Scott Benner 39:09
Okay, do you know what version of the Dexcom you're using? Nope. Come on.
Arden Benner 39:14
I don't know. I literally have no idea
Scott Benner 39:17
G and then a number.
Arden Benner 39:20
Okay, great. Does it matter? Yes. No,
Scott Benner 39:23
just pick a number.
Arden Benner 39:24
No, I'm gonna see I don't want to be part of this. Whatever game we're playing I'm
Scott Benner 39:30
it's not a game. I'm interesting. I'm trying to find out what you what you know, and what you don't know. So you have a Dexcom don't seem to know anything. You know more than you think. So you have a Dexcom G six. Okay, great. Use an omni pod. Omni Omni pod, right?
Arden Benner 39:45
Also, I didn't I heard you say at once and I was like, What the hell is he saying? Oh, you thought I was saying I thought you were saying it wrong. Because you say a lot of things wrong. Like like water is water apparently.
Scott Benner 39:58
Why do you say Water?
Arden Benner 39:59
Water? What or no,
Scott Benner 40:00
say it again? Water water? No. All right, I'm gonna try to copy this time God, water, water. Do it. Please don't do it. Okay, it sounds wrong when I do it. Everything sounds wrong. Okay. On the pod insulin pump Dexcom G six. All right. The in the glucagon is called the G voc hypo pan. I would
Arden Benner 40:21
we I I'm looking at the time I think we talked about that like 20 something minutes ago. I have no recollection of that. Okay,
Scott Benner 40:28
this is good for people to know. All right. I don't know what Yeah, your meter that's called, you know, your meters called the meter. It's called the meter. Yeah. Okay.
Arden Benner 40:37
It's not called anything. It's called hand me that. And if I need someone who doesn't know what it is, like him, you know, like the longer black thing like this and like, no.
Scott Benner 40:48
So that meter is super accurate, the best one you've ever had. But you don't know that. That's fine. I'm not judging you. I'm asking questions. Alright, let's think of all the other stuff that you don't know. Alright, tell people more stuff. Could you give yourself an injection with a needle if you had to?
Arden Benner 41:06
I could write. I will. I choose not to. Yeah,
Scott Benner 41:10
you don't want to? Okay. You're okay. You know how to put your Omnipod on no problem. Yeah, yeah. And you could put a Dexcom on.
Arden Benner 41:19
I'm not flexible like that. I don't know if I can turn
Scott Benner 41:22
because of where you put yours. Yeah, but if you put it somewhere where you could see you would have no trouble.
Arden Benner 41:26
Yeah, maybe? Who knows? Yeah.
Scott Benner 41:27
You put one on me, right.
Unknown Speaker 41:31
Did I don't like kitchen? Yeah, you?
Arden Benner 41:33
I don't know. Like it literally, when that stuff happens. I erase it from my memory. And then I'm often I go watch television. Okay,
Scott Benner 41:39
so is. So being clear. Like I'm trying to find a is is the are the things you do around diabetes? More like wiping your butt? Like, I have no idea what that means? Like, It's stuff you do during the day, but you don't think about it or retain it.
Arden Benner 41:54
No, I think about it when I wipe my ass. No, I
Scott Benner 41:57
don't mean like you're just stabbing around hoping to get to the last part. I'm just saying like later if I said to you, Hey, did you wipe your butt? Today? You go? I don't know.
Arden Benner 42:06
Right? Well, no, I'd say yeah, I think I went my ass.
Scott Benner 42:11
So do you know that your pods getting low on insulin right now?
Unknown Speaker 42:17
Yeah, I do know that. Okay. Why do you know that?
Arden Benner 42:20
Because it popped up on the thing like it was off insulin. Okay. And know what I did? Nothing else to read.
Scott Benner 42:27
Okay. Do you know how long a Dexcom lasts for a week? I
Unknown Speaker 42:33
think 10 days? Yeah. Well,
Arden Benner 42:36
close enough. Whatever, who's counting?
Scott Benner 42:40
Well, I am, because that's how we know when to put the new Dexcom on. Don't just be that you like? Yeah,
Arden Benner 42:46
I guess that's how I know put the new Dexcom on.
Unknown Speaker 42:48
Okay.
Scott Benner 42:49
So let's say for a minute that it's important for you to have a deeper understanding of some of this stuff.
Unknown Speaker 42:54
I disagree, because
Scott Benner 42:57
that's what this conversation is going to be about. So I didn't know what you were going to say today. I had absolutely not one idea in the whole world. I there. I really didn't even think about it. I didn't try to wonder I just thought I'll let you say whatever you're gonna say. I didn't know you're gonna malign all the sponsors at once. But that's fine. That's kind of what malign was, I
Arden Benner 43:18
mean, I didn't know where it I don't know.
Scott Benner 43:24
I don't know what that thing in my bag is I just move it from person to purse. I thought it was an Army.
Arden Benner 43:30
Thanks for saving my life. But like, that's enough.
Scott Benner 43:35
But as you're talking, I started to really feel like just let you say whatever you're gonna say, first of all, which I was always my intention, but then it might be really important for people to hear this. Because I'm now wondering how many adults out there like, I don't know what version of the Dexcom I'm using either. Scott. Like, I wonder how many people just have your feeling about it. And I don't not understand it. You don't even see diabetes as like, a dire medical issue, right?
Arden Benner 44:05
Yeah. I don't I don't see a lot of stuff as a dire medical issue. You know, what I saw as a medical issue and I was thrown up in the car. That was a medical issue that needs to get away from me.
Scott Benner 44:13
You want to tell people about that. Now, that was hard. It's never been on the podcast before.
Arden Benner 44:17
It was horrible. All I know, is I was going 75 and 25. And I still had my permit and I and I was like, Oh, God. That wasn't the worst part. The worst part was that she she threw up. Right? She turned her head towards me. Like that was the way to do it. I tried to put the window down. She didn't like that
Scott Benner 44:37
call and I were in Seattle. Yeah. And mom and you texted you texted me. It felt like it was like two in the morning. My time
Arden Benner 44:47
was 3am. And she looked when she woke me up from my my perfectly nice sleep, by the way.
Scott Benner 44:52
Okay, so maybe it was more so it was 3am here so it was more like midnight where I was. Yeah. And you texted me and you said I think I'm taking mom to the hospital. My
Arden Benner 45:01
mom texted you first. I listened. I didn't know we were going to the hospital till I was like up in the car. Okay. I didn't know it was what I thought she was messing with me. When she woke up to She woke me up and Netflix was still on the TV. So I thought I'd fell asleep for like 15 minutes or something. Okay. And then she was like, we're going to the hospital, and I was like, the hell are you talking? But no, we're not. And then I looked at what time it was. And I was like, Oh, okay. All right. So then, I just got my wisdom teeth out. So that was horrible. Tasted like, throw up in my mouth. Like, oh, my God,
Unknown Speaker 45:35
and you did not have a driver's license. Yeah. No, I did not.
Scott Benner 45:38
And mom was retching and pain. What was it a kidney stone?
Arden Benner 45:42
I don't know. Yeah, it was a stone of some sort. Yeah,
Scott Benner 45:44
she had a kidney stone, apparently. But she didn't know that at the time. Yeah, I
Arden Benner 45:47
thought her appendix was about to burst. That's me. Yeah. Yeah. She's
Scott Benner 45:51
like, I'm in trouble. And I was like,
Arden Benner 45:53
Yeah, it's really nice getting yelled at when you're trying to help someone wishing you? Well, I, I was told to go over the speed limit, which I did. And when we hit a bump, she was like, Oh, my God, what are you doing? And I was like, What? What? But
Scott Benner 46:11
so I think you listen, it's hard for people to see themselves. I've interviewed a ton of people when I'm done talking to them. And they're like, I don't think I said anything valuable. I'm thinking how do you not realize how valuable what you just said was and and similarly here with you? I think that if you wake a lot of 16 year olds at the time, right, you were 16? You're 17 now happy birthday. Yeah. A lot of 16 year olds up out of a dead sleep in the middle of the night and yell Hey, you're driving me to the hospital. And then that but you so here's the part like you've been teasing along and we've been joking a lot and everything but I haven't been I know you. When you left for the hospital. Tell people what you brought with you.
Arden Benner 46:54
Well, first, I got myself a toothbrush. That was the first thing I got on toothpaste. A charger. I got. Oh, I know what I got. I wait. I was carrying a lot of stuff. I like through toothbrush, toothpaste, charger phone, you know, all the things that keep you alive. I went downstairs, I packed some insulin pod blah, blah, blah. Because I had no way of getting home legally. Does not mean I wouldn't have driven home legally. But like, I had no way of getting home so that I brought all that.
Scott Benner 47:26
So you brought all of your diabetes supplies with you? Yeah. And extra stuff. In case you needed it. I think I brought insulin. Yeah, you brought pods? Yeah. You bring a Dexcom transmitter or sensor?
Arden Benner 47:38
Probably. I don't know. I don't know. I was home later that night asleep. So then
Scott Benner 47:43
in a panic situation in the middle of the night. You pulled yourself together and remember to take care of yourself. Yeah. Okay. And make sure you didn't have bad wisdom teeth breath. Yeah,
Arden Benner 47:55
she was still throwing up and I was like, where's the bathroom?
Scott Benner 47:58
to brush my teeth? You even brought a bag for the car from Honda throw up it right.
Arden Benner 48:02
I brought two and she dropped the first one. Thank God, I brought a second one. Oh, my God, that would have been horrible. Because I was not going to come I was gonna make her clean. Get back out there. Go ahead.
Scott Benner 48:11
So you thought to bring two bags? Because you thought she might throw up? Yeah. Okay,
Arden Benner 48:17
I don't do throw up. Right. I will not be a nurse. Oh, also, if you're under the age of 18. Just guilt trip nurses. So easy.
Scott Benner 48:27
How did you get mom help? Tell them?
Arden Benner 48:29
Oh, no, no, I have diabetes. And I have two dogs that my dad's not here. I don't know what to do. I just only why it's so easy. And then just you know, you're fine after that,
Scott Benner 48:37
because they wouldn't come in and help Mom Right? It
Arden Benner 48:39
was too long. Yeah. You guys should probably fix the system.
Unknown Speaker 48:44
I don't think the people listening are in charge of the system. Oh, wow. That was gonna be a nurse.
Scott Benner 48:48
I think one of these people made the matrix or something. I mean, maybe. Would that be odd?
Arden Benner 48:55
It's gotta be like a billionaire. I'm coming for yourself.
Scott Benner 49:02
I think there's a billionaire listening.
Arden Benner 49:03
Maybe what? Well, I don't know how you feel. At least a millionaire. Millionaire listening to this. All right. You're the one who can follow me on Instagram the rest of your data and you're declined.
Scott Benner 49:13
Do you decline a lot of diabetes people who try to find you
Arden Benner 49:17
if I don't? It's only because it says you follow my dad. If it does not say you follow my dad when it pops up. Goodbye. You're gone. Do you
Scott Benner 49:27
remember but you okay, but one of your very good friends. You met because of diabetes?
Arden Benner 49:34
I don't know how I met her.
Scott Benner 49:38
I thought back then you told me you thought she thought that you were me.
Arden Benner 49:42
I don't actually know. I don't remember. All I know is like I have her. I know her. I don't remember how we got in touch with each other long. Have
Scott Benner 49:52
you known each other?
Arden Benner 49:54
I can check.
Unknown Speaker 49:55
Okay, go Good luck.
Arden Benner 49:58
I can check on Snapchat. I have no idea how long I've known her. I added her or she added me or something on Snapchat February 25 2017.
Scott Benner 50:09
That's like four years ago, plus maybe four and a half.
Arden Benner 50:15
But you think it's been longer than that, though?
Scott Benner 50:17
Like, it's because I think you've met on Instagram. You haven't had Snapchat for as long as you've had Instagram. I do want to say hi to her.
Unknown Speaker 50:24
She doesn't listen to this. How do you know?
Arden Benner 50:27
I'm well aware she has not listened to this. Okay. I mean, I don't actually know. But like, I know her. I don't think she knows.
Scott Benner 50:35
Just in case she's listening.
Arden Benner 50:36
Now she's not
Scott Benner 50:40
you know, a lot of people listen to this, right? Yeah, I'm
Arden Benner 50:42
aware. Okay. Wasting your time. Look, clean the dishes. They can clean the dishes and listen to them. I don't think people are really great at multitasking. So they are not these people. I'm just kidding. I don't know most of you. But some of you gotta be bad at it.
Scott Benner 50:57
What? You just think a general portion of the population can't multitask.
Arden Benner 51:01
Yeah, for sure. Especially men. All right. Now I take it back women to some girls are really stupid. You should probably edit all of this
Scott Benner 51:10
out. You think I should just be about anything you say that's controversial.
Arden Benner 51:13
Yeah, like a minute straight is just like I'm not I'm not cursing. I just, you know? Yeah. Pretty blunt.
Scott Benner 51:21
So on online, you're not? There's no identification around diabetes for you. Yeah, no, it's just because you have a very uncommon first name. Probably the people can find you.
Arden Benner 51:31
Which apparently I don't. There's a girl who goes to a school near her girls my name, so follow her.
Scott Benner 51:36
Do you know there's a girl? I think her mom listens. Who has your first name and your last name? And has diabetes. That's crazy, right?
Arden Benner 51:47
She younger than me? I think so. Hmm. So a copier on my hands. Trying to be like me.
Scott Benner 51:55
Do you think she got diabetes on purpose? Yeah, I
Arden Benner 51:57
see what's happening here. Well know that that why don't you get this juice box tattooed on you with my face on it. This? I'm coming to your house and erasing it.
Scott Benner 52:07
Well, we took your face off of it a long time ago when you asked you remember asking. Yeah, I don't want my face out there. Yeah. You remember the thing you said to me? No, I don't want to look like a baby on the internet.
Arden Benner 52:18
Yeah, that's very valid.
Scott Benner 52:20
I didn't think it was invalid. As soon as you told me I took care of it.
Arden Benner 52:23
Well, kind of fast as I could. It was a drawing. But you know,
Scott Benner 52:27
I moved to a draw. And now it's gone. We don't use it for anything anymore. Interesting. It was a very nice picture of you when you were a baby.
Arden Benner 52:34
I bet there's a lot of nice pictures of me. Oh, yeah. You're very photogenic. No.
Scott Benner 52:40
Okay, so you were so you're not identified online at all through that
Arden Benner 52:43
we can get him in any crack my neck
Scott Benner 52:46
once you get closer to the mic.
Unknown Speaker 52:50
Okay, proceed. Okay.
Scott Benner 52:51
You're very cranky.
Arden Benner 52:52
Yeah, that's another problem I have. We found out what result in early death
Unknown Speaker 52:57
can result in early people have a sense of humor? Yeah, they
Scott Benner 53:00
do. You're gonna have to figure out that you're joking. Yeah. We did learn that your cortisol level was higher. I have no idea what that means either. Which is why you're taking magnesium now. Sure. So you're telling me that you think that most kids have this level of understanding?
Arden Benner 53:20
Oh, no, what they understand what am I their mother, you won't generally you should all understand what your kids understand. Sure, they do my job.
Scott Benner 53:27
But you. So it's funny, you're coming off about the way I expected. Like, you're not surprising me at all. Which is partly why these next recordings are going to be like valuable because we are actually going to talk about how to take care of you in the coming recordings. So it'll almost be like diabetes school. That'll be fun, right?
Unknown Speaker 53:47
I don't know how we're gonna do another one of these. Another one, we're gonna do a few more.
Arden Benner 53:51
Actually, at least three because that'll get me up to 15 hours. So
Scott Benner 53:57
well, whether you whether you mean to or not, what you're doing is going to help people.
Arden Benner 54:02
Yeah, I bet I have a very soothing voice. You have a soothing voice. I'm just Kane's very manly.
Scott Benner 54:08
You think you've a manly voice?
Arden Benner 54:09
I do. I have a very deep voice for a girl. Get closer to the microphone and try to get the mic getting get deep. So it doesn't just feel
Scott Benner 54:16
like say something like that really deep voice.
Arden Benner 54:19
Know? What, what? No, I don't want to be the next internet joke. figured it'd be an internet show. One of those people needs to know how to edit.
Scott Benner 54:30
What is your favorite social media app? You don't really care. You
Arden Benner 54:37
know? If you told me I had to delete all social media right now and never use it again. I'd be like, Okay, that's whatever. That's fine.
Scott Benner 54:44
Do you have friends that couldn't do that? That couldn't
Arden Benner 54:47
do that. Oh, um,
Unknown Speaker 54:50
do you think that I'll be okay? I'll be fine without it.
Scott Benner 54:53
You think you would be bored?
Arden Benner 54:56
Um, I'm bored with it.
Unknown Speaker 54:59
So Uh, yeah.
Scott Benner 55:03
Were you bored before COVID? Or has?
Arden Benner 55:05
Yeah, life is very boring in New Jersey. I see why it's a joke in movies to live here.
Scott Benner 55:12
Well, what do you what would you like to be doing?
Arden Benner 55:15
I'd like to be in the city. Doing what? Making money?
Scott Benner 55:18
Oh, you want to be an adult? You want to get a job? Oh, yeah. Let's get out of here. Get going? Yeah. What are you gonna do with your money?
Arden Benner 55:25
I think I'm just too intelligent for this town. You fake? So you're too bright for the people here. Oh, my God, especially people who drive here. The speed limit is 40 donco. 30. Like, come on. You live in Jersey.
Scott Benner 55:36
You don't think that that people basically drive the same everywhere?
Unknown Speaker 55:39
No, I do know.
Scott Benner 55:43
I think at some places.
Arden Benner 55:45
I had to merge today. And I was like, Oh, God. But you were in New Jersey. Right? Yeah, that's why I'm saying it was like, everyone's like a maniac. Wait, have you not merged before? No, I have. But every time I merge, I think, okay. I saw something online. That was like, a lot of people were like, when I merged, I just closed my eyes, which is, you know, probably you probably should have your license. But I mean, I feel that way. But I don't close my eyes.
Scott Benner 56:08
You said you went to wild wings. Yeah, you go to the one out on route one.
Arden Benner 56:12
Yeah. Oh, that
Scott Benner 56:13
is kind of dangerous.
Unknown Speaker 56:15
Yeah, yeah.
Arden Benner 56:16
I did that. Yeah. I'm very special driver.
Unknown Speaker 56:19
You're special driver. Yeah.
Scott Benner 56:21
Which gets you a sticker that says that.
Unknown Speaker 56:25
Okay, well, then I'll
Arden Benner 56:26
get bullied at school. That's how you get bullied at school. Everyone. Tell people you're a special driver. Don't be like, hey, especially if you can't park your car. Oh, my God. Imagine that. And they'll be all over you. Yeah. All right. Okay, another question for me. Yeah, I
Scott Benner 56:41
think we're doing pretty well. Next. Do you have any questions for me? Nope. So that's what I wanted to tell you. Someone online said, I'd like to hear art and ask Scott questions. And I said, I don't think art thinks about me enough to have a question to ask is what's for
Arden Benner 56:58
dinner? And the answer is, I haven't thought about it yet. Or mashed potatoes and chicken. Which I don't want, by the way. Yeah, you're
Scott Benner 57:06
not gonna get that? No, you tell people that you had like a weird thing for a while where you couldn't eat meat.
Arden Benner 57:11
I don't think they care about that. Well, I
Scott Benner 57:13
think people care about that a lot.
Arden Benner 57:14
My mom made hotdogs yesterday. I was like, Oh, that's horrible. So you're still like sent me to a? I couldn't do it. You're still having
Scott Benner 57:20
a weird aversion to some meat. Yeah. We had to get you some low rent Chinese food the other day? Because?
Arden Benner 57:26
Because it didn't actually taste like chicken.
Scott Benner 57:31
Or, like, I can eat this chicken because it doesn't taste like chicken. But that just started happening a couple months ago, right?
Arden Benner 57:38
Yeah, I've lost a couple pounds because of that. You just can't.
Scott Benner 57:42
You'd have no taste for me. Right? Yeah, it's horrible. Just taste like disgusting. And at the beginning of this, you weren't hungry at all for a little while. Yeah.
Arden Benner 57:50
I'm still really don't get that hungry. Yeah, I came that hungry. Yeah. Like when I went to eat today. I was like, I don't really like if you told me like, you can eat but you don't have I just probably wouldn't eat. But I mean, probably good. You know?
Scott Benner 58:05
You don't want to starve.
Arden Benner 58:06
Well, some carrots.
Scott Benner 58:07
So there's a really a great thing that you wouldn't know, right? If you weren't using if you weren't using an algorithm and or if we didn't really know how to handle insulin. You couldn't go for long stretches of time like that without eating. You would have you have ended up having to eat so there have been times when you've gotten up in the morning said I'm not hungry and you haven't eaten till like two or three in the afternoon. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 58:29
intermittent fasting, everyone. It is intermittent fasting. I lose a couple of pounds, but not on purpose. Really? Yeah, no, that's all.
Scott Benner 58:35
But you understand that keeping your blood sugar stable without eating is something that a lot of people aren't able to do. Right.
Arden Benner 58:44
All right. I don't know. I don't think about them. You don't
Scott Benner 58:47
know that? Yeah, no, I know. That's interesting. So you have if you asked me to step back and see this from a third party perspective,
Arden Benner 58:56
I'm not asking you to do that. But go ahead.
Scott Benner 59:00
wasn't talking about you specifically, it was sort of like the royal we like, let's say now I was moving the conversation. Okay, person. You have to cut me off. And if you're
Arden Benner 59:09
cutting you off, that's how conversation works. Is it? That's what you told me? It is when we had a fight? Yeah.
Scott Benner 59:16
We have to go back and forth. Yeah.
Arden Benner 59:18
Because I was like, let me finish my sentence. And he's like, that's the whole conversation we're starting. Yeah, you guys should be here. That's fun. He's not always sweet. Oh, I
Unknown Speaker 59:27
don't think I'm I don't think oh yeah, but here's a secret.
Arden Benner 59:30
I'm gonna give all the secrets out about you. I'm not going to ask you a question. I'm going to tell them the truth. After he gets off the phone with all of you and answers us. He's so nice to all you and gives you all the information you need or whatever. I'll ask the same exact question. He's like, are you serious? You will know that you didn't Pre-Bolus Oh my god. So.
Scott Benner 59:48
Okay, so I don't talk to you like that. And for the last 15 minutes, you've laid out that you don't really know what you're doing anyway.
Arden Benner 59:57
If I know sometimes, Okay, listen. I'm a child, if I forget to Pre-Bolus let's let's make even better if there's a bag of chips in front of me. I'm gonna eat them. Okay? Okay, so don't yell at me.
Scott Benner 1:00:09
Do you think you'd get yelled at? Yeah, you don't think I'm just like are you get upset
Arden Benner 1:00:13
when they call you in Pre-Bolus? Oh my god, I'm like a diabetic God. How do you not do that?
Scott Benner 1:00:17
Well, I've never said that. Nor have I ever thought that you should
Arden Benner 1:00:19
have heard calling yourself that I call myself lady Jesus at school.
Scott Benner 1:00:23
I should start calling myself that because you call yourself lady Jesus. Do is this catching on lady Jesus?
Arden Benner 1:00:29
No, no one says we should get that sticker for the car. Lady Jesus. Yeah, if they Oh my god, imagine if they let us color in our parking spots at school. I would just say reserved for Lady Jesus.
Scott Benner 1:00:41
I don't think they're gonna let you do that.
Arden Benner 1:00:43
I know. But they should.
Scott Benner 1:00:44
Anyway, the Pre-Bolus thing is really, really important. Yeah, I'm aware. Okay. So that's when we talk in future episodes. That's what we're going to talk about.
Arden Benner 1:00:56
Oh, that seems so boring. I know. But we're going to do I don't know how the talk like you're not gonna. It's gonna be you talking not me.
Scott Benner 1:01:04
Well, you could just be interactive.
Arden Benner 1:01:08
That's what I'll do. Uh huh.
Scott Benner 1:01:10
Huh. Well, you could also I'll think of questions while we're talking and you'll answer them.
Arden Benner 1:01:14
Why don't you have any questions written down? It seems like you're unprepared. I don't use that's not how I prepare for very messy desk desk. You
Scott Benner 1:01:21
have my desk is really messy. Yeah. Well, do you want to see some people's questions? What some people had questions for? Yeah, I don't want to see them. Well, now you're talking. And you're gonna see them?
Arden Benner 1:01:32
Oh, no, I'm okay. We're almost at one hour, I need to seven minutes left everyone.
Scott Benner 1:01:39
So we're gonna ask what we'll see what people's questions were. And then we will
Arden Benner 1:01:44
let's go a little bit over one hour, he's going to edit some of this out. Okay, I really need this community service. And I really want a parking spot. Well,
Scott Benner 1:01:50
do you think that anything you've done right now will be of service to the community?
Arden Benner 1:01:57
Who needs to know that? So
Scott Benner 1:01:59
I don't think that by the way, I think that what you've talked about for the last hour is really interesting. And I think that a lot of parents will find what you said. Enlightening.
Arden Benner 1:02:11
I think the dumbest question you've asked me is what my favorite social media app is. Really? Yeah, that was horrible. That was a horrible question to ask me my favorite color next time. With nothing to do with anything
Scott Benner 1:02:20
that you didn't like? No, I didn't like you also didn't answer it. Why don't have a favorite favorite. What's your favorite TV show right now? Oh,
Arden Benner 1:02:28
you know, I'm watching Teen Wolf at the moment. And let me just it's a horrible show. I've never seen such horrible acting in my life. But Dylan O'Brien is a good looking man. Some of the keep watching it. Um, and but One Tree Hill is a good show my favorite of all time. I could watch any Marvel movie religiously. Like if you guys are you know on family feud and they asked that question, or Jeopardy or whatever phone a friend. It's me. It's you. That's the one time you get to request me on Instagram. And then what else do I like? I'm a very dystopian lover. Like the hunger This is a lot of bloody Dexcom. So I'm looking at what is going on here. And
Scott Benner 1:03:09
I'm scrolling through the pictures that are on the Facebook page right now looking for a picture that I attached to a to a thing and there have been a couple of people who put bleeders up on there.
Arden Benner 1:03:18
Some of you need to get some better angles on their pictures. Yeah.
Scott Benner 1:03:23
You think you're critiquing people's photography? Yeah, that's horrible.
Arden Benner 1:03:26
I like babies.
Scott Benner 1:03:29
Aren't those kids cute? Those that post is the most part of their names.
Arden Benner 1:03:33
Oh, bad interviewer look, now you don't know dad
Damon right there. twin girls
Scott Benner 1:03:46
are twin girls, but I asked if they named if they named the babies after me.
Arden Benner 1:03:51
That No, that'd be a horrible name. They
Scott Benner 1:03:53
did not. But the mom the mother listed it. So let me find where I said it.
Arden Benner 1:03:59
I'll tell you what I think of the names. Oh, okay. I'm just kidding. I won't do that. I'm sure this will go horribly if I say anything. I'm sure
Scott Benner 1:04:06
they're lovely names. I just don't remember. I'm scrolling whether you guys love this post so much. I can't even find my herd is Hannah and Nicole
Arden Benner 1:04:22
Wait No, it's It's Hannah Nicole is in pink. Yes. I don't know how to say that other name her dasa.
Scott Benner 1:04:28
Hadassah Grady.
Arden Benner 1:04:29
I like that. I like that one better. Katie Yeah, I like that better than Hannah. Okay, I mean no offense to Han or anything but like I'm more of a heavy person.
Scott Benner 1:04:39
I don't think she can take offense to it. All right, looks like she's four four minutes old.
Arden Benner 1:04:42
Which one do you think it is? I think Hannah is
Scott Benner 1:04:45
well that's interesting. Wait don't answer I'm gonna guess so one babies in pink one babies and purple.
Arden Benner 1:04:51
And you're actually that what I didn't even look over here but I did now and now I know who it is. And that's what I was going to say. Okay, Haney looks more badass than Hannah can Thanks, so that's why I picked her.
Scott Benner 1:05:01
She's looking more at the camera has kind of got her hand over her face like yeah, she's
Unknown Speaker 1:05:05
shy. Why are you? Yeah,
Scott Benner 1:05:06
don't Please don't?
Arden Benner 1:05:07
What did those shirts say worth? were you telling your children what they're worth?
Scott Benner 1:05:11
No, I don't think that's what it says. worth something
Unknown Speaker 1:05:13
worth to. I don't know.
Arden Benner 1:05:17
I don't know. I know what I'm gonna be honest. You don't need to tell me. I'm gonna move on with my life now.
Unknown Speaker 1:05:22
You don't want anybody? Okay, call me get back to me find the thing.
Arden Benner 1:05:28
That doesn't look like good food. Something you need to learn how to cook.
Scott Benner 1:05:33
you're critiquing people's food.
Arden Benner 1:05:35
Yeah. Is that a selfie you took? That's horrible that all right.
Scott Benner 1:05:39
I was thanking people for something. Where is this picture at? You guys post so much stuff on this board, which is very cool. But I'm having trouble finding what I'm looking for because of
Arden Benner 1:05:50
that. Reading.
Scott Benner 1:05:51
who's reading? People read your reading? What are you reading right now for school?
Arden Benner 1:05:57
Oh, I didn't start any of that.
Scott Benner 1:05:59
What are you supposed to read for school?
Arden Benner 1:06:00
I don't know what it's called. Do you have the book? Yes, not sir.
Unknown Speaker 1:06:04
You have a book two books.
Arden Benner 1:06:06
You have two books? Yeah. AP Literature. Let's hope that goes well. I took AP Lang I made it. I was also online the whole year. If that means anything,
Scott Benner 1:06:17
tell, listen, while I'm scrolling tell all the parents. If their kids got a good education when they were online,
Arden Benner 1:06:24
they did not. They got really good at cheating. And they're gonna go back to school and take that exam they had to take on the first day of school in an AP class, and they're gonna come home with a zero, and you're just gonna sit down and eat dinner, because everyone else got 02. Except for that one girl who's a kiss ass who didn't cheat the whole year. Like, like no one cheated that
Scott Benner 1:06:45
year. So you're saying a lot of people were cheating while they were online? Yeah, everyone was
Arden Benner 1:06:49
cheating while online. Which was very weird because when I'm in school, I do not cheat. I feel very guilty if I do that. But I had given up I was like, this is a joke, right? I was like, what? Come on?
Scott Benner 1:07:05
How were the teachers that me? Know that look just like me back when I was little. Yeah, the little girl pretended to kiss the fish. Yeah, your child looks like me. Yeah. When you were a little How about that? Right? That looks just like me. So to let me look and see if we have a name.
Arden Benner 1:07:20
That does look like me when I was little. She does look a lot like you. But if that was hard and better, that'd be really weird. Be
Scott Benner 1:07:27
able to grow the other Arden better. This person didn't put her name up. But her mom's name is Megan.
Arden Benner 1:07:32
She's my aunt's name.
Scott Benner 1:07:34
She is your answer.
Arden Benner 1:07:36
We're very connected.
Scott Benner 1:07:37
I don't know it's spelled differently.
Arden Benner 1:07:38
Yeah, I mean, we're not very connected. But she does look a lot like me. Yeah. Okay, we have the same head shape. That's actually what stood out to me was her head.
Scott Benner 1:07:46
What shape is your head?
Arden Benner 1:07:48
I don't know. Whatever that is.
Scott Benner 1:07:52
So you're aware that when you see your head shape on someone else, you know what your head shape? Yeah. But you are not aware. He
Unknown Speaker 1:07:58
did look like oh, no, I'm a Grammy fighting with yourself.
Scott Benner 1:08:02
I'm agreeing with you. Like this kid growing
Arden Benner 1:08:03
up. Deuces.
Unknown Speaker 1:08:04
Yes. Alright, peace.
Scott Benner 1:08:06
Everybody. Has that a gang sign? That's peace.
Arden Benner 1:08:09
Can you find this post? I know. I'm gonna have to leave because we're you know, we have a couple of seconds left Dad.
Scott Benner 1:08:13
Oh, you're staying till we're done. Relax. Hold on.
Arden Benner 1:08:17
Oh my god. He's sitting as
Scott Benner 1:08:19
water. I'm thirsty. Let me do a search for it instead. Oh, you could have done that the whole entire time? I don't know. I'm not great with the internet
Oh, it popped right up. That's embarrassing. I guess I could have just done that. Alright, let's see if people had questions. So let me pull up all the comments.
Arden Benner 1:08:41
Let's not answer the bad questions. Okay. Don't say them out loud because then they'll know their questions bad
Scott Benner 1:08:50
they're gonna think we're making hand signals to each other right now which we're not No I'll make a hand signal. Well, no, you won't make people think you're speaking behind their back. That's not behind their back. I hope it's her the interviews you know, that's what I said.
Arden Benner 1:09:04
Heather? No, no, that's
Scott Benner 1:09:07
not gonna happen
Unknown Speaker 1:09:11
Hold on.
Arden Benner 1:09:13
Oh, pay her yeah, not gain any money for this apparently because it's community service. I feel like I should get paid under the counter but whatever. It's under the table and whatever. I don't work with drugs so I don't know
Scott Benner 1:09:26
when you have a job when you're not paying taxes called under the table not under the counter.
Arden Benner 1:09:31
Whatever. Alright, anyways, Ira no money. This
Scott Benner 1:09:34
person that wondered had you ever been on? Okay, this person asked. Do you know that you're practically a celebrity?
Arden Benner 1:09:40
Me? Yeah. I'm not a celebrity until I'm on the red carpet with Anne Hathaway. I'm not a celebrity.
Scott Benner 1:09:46
Why Anne Hathaway because she's in the best movie ever. The worst product ever. worst problem. Such a good movie.
Arden Benner 1:09:51
Yeah, great movie. I just feel like Anne Hathaway is like, you've made it if you're on the red carpet with her
Unknown Speaker 1:09:58
with her. Yeah.
Scott Benner 1:10:00
But this person's point is that to the people listening to this, you that that that you may be a celebrity. I don't think that I'm not saying you aren't Yeah,
Arden Benner 1:10:11
most people don't know my name in this town. So trust me, I'm not a celebrity.
Scott Benner 1:10:17
Okay, here's their super serious question. Do you realize the impact that you've had on the diabetes community in general and people's health?
Arden Benner 1:10:24
I don't think I've done anything. I think this is all you.
Scott Benner 1:10:28
But do you see that his point? Is that is that without you? I don't have to figure out diabetes.
Arden Benner 1:10:35
That's a her now let's say when I'm trying to read
Scott Benner 1:10:38
a woman with a middle name of Seth.
Arden Benner 1:10:42
Why are you assuming? I mean, there's a man and a woman in the picture. So wait, let me see what the job is. I can figure it out by that they don't give women good jobs. They don't give women good jobs in this generation. Manager. Huh? Manager, this is a man.
Scott Benner 1:11:04
Okay, but be so wait a second, like, let's stop on this one for a second and be super serious. If? Who cares? What if you were the reason that I don't know, I made a widget. Right? We have a little little device that helps people with something. So let's say you were born, and you had, let's make something up specific. Let's say you were born, and you had really fat fingers. So you couldn't pick your nose. And I may, what the hell and I made a little thing for you to pick your nose, but. And then it turned out there were a lot of people with fat fingers that couldn't pick their nose. And we started selling them and help everybody get the boogers out of their nose. Would you be able to see that because of you? These people didn't have boogers in their nose anymore.
Arden Benner 1:11:50
I don't think that would be because of me. They do. Okay, well, then we have different views.
Scott Benner 1:11:54
And they're grateful for it. Okay,
Arden Benner 1:11:57
yeah. All right.
Scott Benner 1:11:58
I think they're also grateful that you don't limit me from talking about you.
Arden Benner 1:12:05
I'm not his mom, I can't do anything about that. So you could
Scott Benner 1:12:08
you could say please don't say my period. But it ends up being really important.
Arden Benner 1:12:12
You're too late, because he's already said it. And I didn't know so.
Scott Benner 1:12:16
But you've never come to me and said please don't say that.
Arden Benner 1:12:20
Yeah, I don't really whatever is happening here. It's just not my world. So whatever. Right?
Scott Benner 1:12:24
I've tried to make that clear to people, but I think some people don't understand. Okay. All right. Let's scroll.
Arden Benner 1:12:34
I can tell who's older based on the words they use.
Scott Benner 1:12:37
Really? Yeah. Give me Don't say anybody's name. Give me a word that tells me somebody's older.
Arden Benner 1:12:42
Well, no, I can see that. They're gonna know it's them.
Scott Benner 1:12:45
Everyone listening? Well, no, only the person that did okay. Hooray. Hooray. Yeah. Racist. You older or younger than 35. Older. Okay. Do you see any young words?
Arden Benner 1:12:57
I'm not a very fast reader. So hold on. Um, no, not yet.
Scott Benner 1:13:04
Can you verify that you are not sitting in the new chair?
Arden Benner 1:13:09
I was I tried to sit in that. He told me don't move it. So. Yeah, no, trust me. I'm not sending in it.
Scott Benner 1:13:18
See, this person is interested in your perspective, which you've been very free with today. And I think that's excellent.
Unknown Speaker 1:13:24
All right. Okay.
Arden Benner 1:13:27
He's not famous continue.
Scott Benner 1:13:30
Okay, so I'm not famous, and I agree with you. What is he thinks
Arden Benner 1:13:34
he's so cool, because he showed up on that one app when you look up his name. Oh, what was that? I don't know what it's called. It was like it was like a morphing app. Yeah, yeah. Oh,
Scott Benner 1:13:43
like the who? No kidding. There was an app where you could pull up famous people more for your face with them. Yeah. And I was on there as a famous person. Yeah, that was stupid.
Arden Benner 1:13:52
But it was also kind of scary.
Scott Benner 1:13:56
That my face was there. Yeah, I thought so. It took me by surprise.
Arden Benner 1:14:00
Yeah. I shouldn't be there. Apparently. I'm the good one here. I should be getting the money. Actually, technically, I do get the money. I heard a lot of clothes.
Scott Benner 1:14:09
Yeah. Well, you guys support the sponsors. You are you're definitely paying for artists clothing. Yeah, for sure. So but take her question. How
Arden Benner 1:14:15
did you convince me? No, wait, but
Scott Benner 1:14:17
take this question. Okay, but take the word famous out of it.
Arden Benner 1:14:21
Does it have a dad everyone loves?
Scott Benner 1:14:24
Well, everyone doesn't love me. But how does? She just said that's what she said. But why are
Arden Benner 1:14:28
you scrolling past it? I can't read it feel more comfortable? Uncomfortable. What are you 12? I'm gonna read it. I don't know how to answer this question. Like, it doesn't feel different to you that I don't really care if other people like you or not. Okay. Yeah. Well, it's a good answer. Okay. Next,
Scott Benner 1:14:45
I think which so you would say for clarity, you've never walked around and thought, it's cool. My dad has a podcast that people know. I
Arden Benner 1:14:52
actually think it's kind of embarrassing to say it. Okay. Yeah. I don't tell people that you have a podcast if people ask what my parents job is. I tell them People that mom works for a company.
Scott Benner 1:15:03
You don't mention me. Uh,
Arden Benner 1:15:05
you know, everyone kind of knows you have a podcast, right? Okay, so it doesn't come it doesn't like you know, whenever, you know ask that question either
Scott Benner 1:15:16
okay, I'm reading sorry. Some I have to be honest some of you the way you're right. I don't understand what you're talking about this woman is gonna let her daughter listen. Do you think that's a mistake? Or do you think that her daughter will turn to her and be like, I don't know what that glucagon is called either.
Arden Benner 1:15:34
I don't know what her daughter you're asking me questions. I clearly cannot answer
Scott Benner 1:15:38
your interesting you're from you are definitely from a generation that will not generalize about
Unknown Speaker 1:15:43
something. I
Arden Benner 1:15:44
don't believe I connected my generation whatsoever. What
Scott Benner 1:15:47
generation do you connect to?
Arden Benner 1:15:48
I'm gonna, I don't know, but not this one. Because I hate every child and not your children. But everyone I know at my school I'm not fond of
Scott Benner 1:15:57
what does that bother? What bothers you about it?
Arden Benner 1:16:00
They just they worry about the dumbest things. Okay. Like, apparently, let's I'll put this out there. Apparently no one else thought it was funny to make your Instagram account name Ashton Kutcher. Like Kucha. Come on Ashton Kutcher, Ashton Kutcher. That's hilarious, right? I had like five people save. It's funny, and everyone else was like, That's so weird. I was like, You have no personality. But then I did change back because I was like, oh, colleges, look at your social media. And I don't want to be Ashton Kutcher. So
Scott Benner 1:16:32
So in general, you're not happy that people didn't understand the actual Ashton Kutcher. Yeah,
Arden Benner 1:16:36
no one appreciated my cute.
Scott Benner 1:16:39
Well, last night, we're not going to tell people but I made a joke last night in front of your friends that only you got. And none of them didn't get it. Right. This is sweet. This person says that.
Arden Benner 1:16:50
I read that one already. I actually am A Faster Reader, apparently. Because you're taking forever. I
Scott Benner 1:16:54
had read it before as I bring it back up now. So we can speak about this. And
Arden Benner 1:16:57
she calls those crazy. Yeah, do what? Matt is correct, Matt. Matt is correct. I don't think you're crazy. I just think that it's crazy that you're listening to this.
Scott Benner 1:17:07
You so you've so far as we scrolled through. Agreed mostly with Matt. Yes. That's very interesting. That's from Australia. He's got to wait.
Arden Benner 1:17:18
That's my dream accent. Okay. Yeah. You know, everyone asked if you could change one thing about your body, what would it be? Mine was not anything physical. Like, I want a different accent. I do not like, you know, being American.
Scott Benner 1:17:33
Here. Well, my point wasn't about the accent. It was that Matt's got a different sensibility about him. Because there's an Australian sensibility. It's more matter of fact, like you. So maybe you're more Australian than you think.
Arden Benner 1:17:45
Oh, are you saying that? Maybe Chris Hemsworth would like me?
Scott Benner 1:17:49
Yes. Maybe Chris Hemsworth will like okay, all right, people looking forward to it. Okay, here you go. How How accurate is this one?
Arden Benner 1:17:57
That's a lot of reading.
Scott Benner 1:17:58
I imagine her to be very chill and laid back. Are you chill?
Arden Benner 1:18:03
My answer? I don't know how to answer questions about myself.
Scott Benner 1:18:06
It's interesting, isn't it?
Arden Benner 1:18:07
Um, I heard it. Oh, reading reading, relaxing the diabetes and Scott keeps an exterior cool. Oh, he does not keep his cool. Yeah, that's that's gonna be our next episode. Basically makes it look easy. Ninja skills. Yeah, I believe I'm a ninja.
Scott Benner 1:18:27
You believe you're a ninja.
Arden Benner 1:18:28
Basically, I imagined here's a pretty cool girl. I'm with Jessica.
Scott Benner 1:18:31
Yeah. You believe in Jessica. Yeah. All right.
Arden Benner 1:18:36
I think she's younger.
Scott Benner 1:18:38
You think Kate is younger? Because of how she wrote?
Arden Benner 1:18:40
Oh my god. Yeah. I don't think she's young. I think she's younger.
Scott Benner 1:18:46
That's interesting. Kate, is the person who put your name in general hospital. Oh, really? Yeah.
Arden Benner 1:18:53
Maybe she's just like the writing? No,
Scott Benner 1:18:56
you want to thank her? No.
Arden Benner 1:19:02
I mean, okay. Next,
Scott Benner 1:19:07
Okay, what about Tami's idea? This might be really interesting. Would you answer questions
Arden Benner 1:19:14
from children? I don't think I could put up with children. No, I don't. That's I've actually been told that the one job I should not have is a teacher or a nurse.
Scott Benner 1:19:24
We wouldn't bring the children on the No. Oh, wait, what? Yeah, they would just write their question. Oh, yeah.
Arden Benner 1:19:29
I can't just I, this can't be a live talk with children. Like, I'll be like, listen, shut up.
Scott Benner 1:19:36
No, but if so if their kids send questions in would you answer them? But would you answer them like if they said, Hey,
Arden Benner 1:19:42
I don't think kids would understand what I'm saying. Like little children. Wait, how old are we talking? I don't know. Because anyone like under the age of 12. I don't think their brains developed yet. Like where it needs to be to understand what I'm saying. So even 13 year olds, they still have braces. So I don't think
Scott Benner 1:19:59
do you think some people are going to be disappointed after hearing you talk.
Arden Benner 1:20:03
A lot of people are disappointed after they hear me. I don't know what the rest of that even says she's using abbreviations.
Scott Benner 1:20:10
All right, this person is just very excited. Okay, and says Do you think she asked me if I think you're gonna roll your eyes at me while we're doing it? You didn't roll your eyes and they have
Arden Benner 1:20:18
Oh, my eyes on people. Yeah, I just tell them they're being stupid. Okay. All right. Well, that's what these people have me all wrong. Well,
Scott Benner 1:20:29
no, yeah, they you're, you're a one dimensional person to them.
Arden Benner 1:20:35
Oh, no, that means that's not what I'm talking about. What do
Scott Benner 1:20:37
you mean? How do you not know what that means? You you love One Tree Hill. I bet you they say that all the time in that show. What do you want to tell people that you went to a One Tree Hill convention? You
Arden Benner 1:20:45
went to two of them. Thank you very much. Um, the first time I didn't get to meet Sophia Bush, because the tickets were sold out. But I met Chad like James Lafferty, James Lafferty. If your wife is listening to this because I speak let's all talk about this for a second. James Lafferty decided to marry a diabetic. I'm a diabetic. So if he was looking for a diabetic why not me? Literally one more year till everything's legal. Oh my god, you could have waited?
Scott Benner 1:21:12
Well, you didn't put it in your Instagram bio. So how would he know?
Arden Benner 1:21:15
You know, Chad Michael Murray did like my photo though. He did. Yeah. And I don't you know, I don't think he's like the famous enough type to have someone else run it for him. So I think he liked the photo. Cool.
Scott Benner 1:21:25
What's his wife's name?
Arden Benner 1:21:27
I don't like vo I don't really know. It's I don't think she's American. I think she has some foreign name.
Scott Benner 1:21:35
You don't know her name?
Arden Benner 1:21:36
No, she's not. I know.
Unknown Speaker 1:21:38
She likes type one.
Arden Benner 1:21:39
No, it's no it's not time. Like Murray's wife. It's James Lafferty, his wife. Oh, James Lafferty. His wife has type she's more famous than Sean Michael Maria's wife.
Scott Benner 1:21:46
What's what's her name?
Arden Benner 1:21:48
I don't know book of James Lafferty. Much of James Lafferty fiance they just got engaged. I know everything. Oh, speaking of Wait, we should all we should all start a club. But now I'm in with you guys if we start a club, too. Oh, yeah, that's her. Alexandra Park. Could have been me anyways. If we all started club to get me on the One Tree Hill podcast with Bethany Joy Lenz, hilly Burton and Sophia Bush, then Amen. That you could that I'll do for no community serve that service hours.
Scott Benner 1:22:22
Would you really be able to dig in and talk about that show? Oh, I
Arden Benner 1:22:24
know everything about that show. That's probably not good.
Unknown Speaker 1:22:29
What?
Scott Benner 1:22:30
What's your second favorite show?
Arden Benner 1:22:33
I don't know. I'm a Gossip Girl fan. I like you. I can't wait for the season three to come out of you. That's something you probably should let your children watch. Okay. Yeah, I started watching that on a road trip in the car. And I realized that I probably shouldn't watch that in the car with you guys. But I didn't Anyways, um, what else do I like?
Scott Benner 1:22:52
Well, what shows? Have you turned me on to
Arden Benner 1:22:54
new girl? That's a good show. I'm if you don't like New Girl, I believe you don't have a sense of humor. Anybody on here who decides new girls not a good show? stopped listening. You don't deserve to listen. First of all, you can still listen to No, I don't think you can.
Scott Benner 1:23:09
But tell them what we do to mom.
Arden Benner 1:23:14
I don't understand what do we? She just doesn't write to him. We
Scott Benner 1:23:16
have tried twice for Kelly. Three
Arden Benner 1:23:18
times three times. I've started out show over three times for her.
Scott Benner 1:23:22
It's hilarious. And she never laughs Yeah. Mommy likes TV shows with like the word Chicago in it. Even the
Arden Benner 1:23:31
episode if anyone knows what I'm talking about the episode when Jess Nick and the like janitor or whatever. In the apartment, like he tries to have a threesome with them. You probably can't put this up now. I can. Okay. When that happens. It is hilarious. And they start playing that song from Matilda. She did not even crack a smile. I was like what? Yeah, mom's sense of humor is weird. And just starts playing the drums in the air. Yeah. Oh my god. Come on. It Yeah. Anyways, that's they're engaged.
Scott Benner 1:24:01
I see that. Alright, so Alexandra Park has type one diabetes. Yeah, she can come on the show if she wants to.
Arden Benner 1:24:07
I don't think she she she made a book about this. She's got she's got money. So
Scott Benner 1:24:11
let me ask you a question. If that girl came on this podcast, would you co host that episode with me?
Arden Benner 1:24:15
No. So you can tell her I like her husband a lot. And that actually, you know, don't don't make it creepy. We want to get lunch with them or something.
Scott Benner 1:24:24
We don't we don't want to make it creepy. Yeah. Okay. Let's just hope she doesn't listen to this. He looks a lot older than you.
Arden Benner 1:24:29
Yeah, he has a lot of fun. He's almost 40. But now he's in his 30s.
Scott Benner 1:24:35
He's 35 it says yeah, I can tell. You can tell. Yeah, he's he's in his 30s. All right. Well, maybe this will get back to him. That'd be crazy, wouldn't it? Yeah. Okay, wait, here's something interesting. I think New Girl is terrific. You introduced it to me during COVID. Yeah. When we were just like, literally trapped in our house. No, it's amazing.
Arden Benner 1:24:56
I'm getting hot again,
Scott Benner 1:24:57
but you don't like Ted lasso.
Arden Benner 1:25:00
No, I mostly because I think Soccer is the worst sport to exist. And I just I can't. Anything that involves soccer. Needs to be shut off. Yeah. I cannot do soccer. If your kid play soccer like good for them. I don't know if I can be friends with them.
Scott Benner 1:25:16
What about what about when I introduced you to pulp fiction? You didn't like that either?
Arden Benner 1:25:19
No, I didn't like that. I think all those movies like Pulp Fiction Kill Bill. Wait, is it is it Kill Bill? is what it is with the with that girl? Yep. Okay, all of those movies. Everyone's like, Oh, it's a cinematic masterpiece. It's so slow, which like, I can appreciate it to an extent. But like, you gotta like, come on.
Scott Benner 1:25:39
Let's go. There's too much dialogue. There's
Arden Benner 1:25:41
no there's like not enough dialogue or something. There's like too much nothing happening.
Scott Benner 1:25:46
So Black Widow way better than Pulp Fiction?
Arden Benner 1:25:51
Yeah, I also very big black widow fan. I really liked the movie. I would not put that top five though.
Scott Benner 1:25:58
Top five in your in your mind Marvel category or even your Marvel category? Yeah. What are your top five
Arden Benner 1:26:03
Marvel? Oh, wait, we can't do this right now. This is taking me a while. Why? Because I don't know. I think this is so hard. I'm a very big fan of the first Avengers movie. Okay, Thor Ragnarok. Winter Soldier. Endgame. I'm actually a lot of people like infinity war better than endgame but I'm more of an endgame person. Okay, um, I really like Iron Man three. I think that's the best one if you disagree don't know, but I think we should make it clear that Captain America is the rest of the six Avengers you really don't like Captain him. I don't dislike him. But
Unknown Speaker 1:26:38
he's so cheesy. Right? And you didn't like Black Panther? Very much.
Arden Benner 1:26:42
No. Oh, I feel like I'm gonna get a lot. No,
Scott Benner 1:26:44
I don't think you would. You didn't like a lot of people. for that. I don't know why or not liking Black Panther. Yeah, I mean, you don't hate it. No,
Arden Benner 1:26:51
I don't hate it. But I think it's overhyped for sure.
Scott Benner 1:26:53
What about the TV shows? Have they been good? So far? I
Arden Benner 1:26:57
I liked one vision a lot. Loki like slowed down at some point. And they made it like too much. Like, like Talk less or something. I don't know. The Winter Soldier Falcon. I was really lost in what the villain was like. Yeah, what was that? Like? Was she like Irish? I don't know. What was what were the curly hair the curly hair that like the redhead freckle? Yeah, I don't. I don't understand what like where she come from.
Scott Benner 1:27:26
I don't know. So so far. I agree. The one division was pretty good. That's the best one. Yeah. Falcon and Winter Soldier.
Arden Benner 1:27:32
That's my least favorite. I
Scott Benner 1:27:33
wasn't sure what was happening and Loki got
Arden Benner 1:27:35
started good and then got worse. But I think it's because it's supposed to be longer the season supposed to be longer in the middle kind of slow down. I think it was gonna pick back up.
Scott Benner 1:27:43
There was a scene towards the end of the last time we should become like,
Arden Benner 1:27:47
you know those like nerds to do this for fun. We could do this. Oh my god. Yeah,
Scott Benner 1:27:51
we already have microphones. So at the end of Loki, this isn't even diabetic related. Everything. You have diabetes. Okay, whatever. At the end of Loki. There was a scene before they went into the house where they were outside of the whatever. I don't want to give it away for people. You know what I mean? Yeah,
Arden Benner 1:28:08
I don't know what they're doing. Like that guy has so many powers and they're doing nothing with him.
Scott Benner 1:28:11
I kept thinking, did they mean to edit some of this out and they forgot. Like, why is this taking so long? Yeah, it was not. It was a I didn't like it.
Arden Benner 1:28:20
I actually can't wait for Hawkeye. If you dislike Hawkeye. You just don't understand watch age of Voltron again.
Unknown Speaker 1:28:26
He was great. Yeah, yeah, he's legit. Yeah,
Scott Benner 1:28:29
he's got a nice bond with a black widow. Yeah,
Arden Benner 1:28:31
exactly. And if you okay, this is this is this is where I stand. Blackwidow is my favorite Avenger of all time. But she still should have died. I think we should all he had a family. And I know she had she was family with the Avengers. And she had her boo. She didn't have a kid. So you know, she can go she's my favorite. And she can still jump off that cliff.
Scott Benner 1:28:53
Okay. You know, she's suing Disney. Yeah, I
Arden Benner 1:28:56
heard about that. She should. They're doing that thing where they're there. Kevin Feige is on her side. He's helping her. Yeah, they gave him
Scott Benner 1:29:03
contracts where they get pieces of the box office, and then they're releasing the show the movie online where there's no box office, so they don't get paid for that part. Yeah, yeah, they're stealing from them. I
Arden Benner 1:29:13
think. Yeah. That's her last movie. Just give her the money.
Scott Benner 1:29:16
Yeah. Plus, she married that guy with a big head. Yeah. So she's gonna need money to buy hats. Yeah.
Arden Benner 1:29:20
Let's all just hope and pray they get divorced. And she ends up with Chris Evans. Why? Because they're meant to be her and Chris.
Scott Benner 1:29:28
You think Chris Evans and Scarlett Scarlett Johansson should be
Arden Benner 1:29:32
together? Yeah, that's something definitely went on when they were younger. You think so? Yeah.
Scott Benner 1:29:38
Interesting. You liked him in knives out? Right?
Arden Benner 1:29:40
Yeah. I think he's a good actor. I just his character. Like, I want to punch him across the face.
Scott Benner 1:29:47
You don't like So Captain America is too earnest for you. Yeah. Okay.
Arden Benner 1:29:53
All right. That's actually I had to take a quiz at school. That was like your, they give you like 30 I don't know. I don't want to be called like three. The What's the word 30? Like? I don't know, just like things about you, they put them in order. My last one was spirituality. But my second last one was kindness. Kindness fell pretty far down with my first one. It was like I had like sarcasm like humor. Bravery. Like something like, I don't know, like trust, like all that was at the top. Also at the bottom was, was like work like teamwork.
Scott Benner 1:30:30
So, we're gonna wrap this up. Okay. Okay. Let me ask you a question. How much of what you said that it was sarcastic?
Arden Benner 1:30:38
I don't I'm not trying to be sarcastic or I don't think you're trying
Scott Benner 1:30:41
to do anything. I think you're being yourself. Yeah.
Arden Benner 1:30:45
So I don't know. I guess 100 But not 100 An hour and 22
Scott Benner 1:30:50
minutes of it. Think you think you're generally sarcastic?
Arden Benner 1:30:53
Yeah, I'm not a very. I'm a serious person. But like, emotions are my thing. I think you should deal with that. And I'll deal with mine. Okay. Yeah. Like if you're crying. It's not on my shoulder.
Scott Benner 1:31:07
That's a t shirt. If you're crying. It's not on my shoulder. Should copyright that. That's a great idea.
Arden Benner 1:31:12
Yeah, like if my friends are upset. I'm not the person to go to if someone is upset. Don't text me
Scott Benner 1:31:18
know. You get very like analytical about it. Yeah, just like suck it up. You're like this happened. And then she did this. And then that happened. That's reasonable that she's upset now. Let's get past that. Yeah, exactly.
Arden Benner 1:31:28
That's how everyone should think You think everyone should think like you. Yeah.
Scott Benner 1:31:33
Tell me again. What your insulin pumps called.
Arden Benner 1:31:35
It doesn't it doesn't matter. You see what I mean? Doesn't matter.
Scott Benner 1:31:39
I phoned will not stop beeping. Oh my god. It's the dentist office that wants to know how Cole's hygiene experience was today.
Arden Benner 1:31:48
So the dentist believable cause tiptoeing outside the door right now is your him.
Scott Benner 1:31:52
You can hear him outside. Yeah. Alright, so we're gonna get back together and do this again. Oh, great. Okay, um, but we're going to talk specifically about using your insulin. Understanding the Dexcom understanding the G voc understanding the Omni pod, understanding your meter understanding all of it, okay? Because listen to me. Don't get distracted. Now. You're doing great.
Arden Benner 1:32:15
I got distracted, right? Like a squirrel.
Scott Benner 1:32:17
I'm gonna, what we're gonna do is we're gonna have these talks, they might not be this long. Okay, like, we might break them up into little sections. And we're gonna talk about each thing individually. And I'm gonna do my best to tell you everything that I think you need to know. If you were going to just leave right now and take care of yourself.
Arden Benner 1:32:36
Okay, I could leave right now and take care of myself.
Scott Benner 1:32:39
Do you think your agency would be in the mid fives?
Arden Benner 1:32:42
Whatever.
Scott Benner 1:32:45
Do you understand why that's important?
Arden Benner 1:32:49
Yeah, no, I yeah, that's important. Sorry. I was not thinking I was reading this. Okay. We really need to get her on the show reading
Scott Benner 1:32:55
about James Lafferty. So yeah, so I just get this off the screen so you don't get confused by it. There we go.
Arden Benner 1:33:00
That is not a real sight that they have. Or they're not famous enough to be on TMZ No, it's like on but not.com I, you know, don't get them on this because they're gonna hear how poorly I'm talking. And they're not gonna like me, or they're really great people and they're gonna be like, You know what, she's right. I'm gonna do this celebrity. It's fine. Whatever. I had five minutes of
Scott Benner 1:33:19
fame. They're still you're like some of your favorite celebrities, though. What's it? I
Arden Benner 1:33:22
don't know who that woman is?
Scott Benner 1:33:24
Oh, you don't know who is? She's in a show. Alexandra Park. Yeah, she's in the Royals. Do whatever that is. I think that's FX. Is that even famous? That's what I'm saying. I might be more famous than her. Oh.
Arden Benner 1:33:43
Oh, well, she gets one of these on the side. You know, I'm more famous than she's from Australia. Oh, my God.
Scott Benner 1:33:49
Your net. See? She got it. She got him with the accent.
Arden Benner 1:33:54
I told you. You blew it. I told you guys
Scott Benner 1:33:58
all you had to do. She's been in one TV show and what appears to be a very bad shark movie. If I'm guessing
Arden Benner 1:34:04
12 feet deep.
Unknown Speaker 1:34:06
What is 12 feet deep about?
Arden Benner 1:34:08
I'm guessing a shark that oh, she's also in his new show.
Scott Benner 1:34:12
What's his new show?
Arden Benner 1:34:13
He made a show with another guy from One Tree Hill called everybody's doing great. It's
Unknown Speaker 1:34:16
on Hulu. Everyone's just doing great.
Arden Benner 1:34:18
I think I heard it did good. Wait, click on it. Let's see if that's a lie.
Unknown Speaker 1:34:21
I believe you mean I heard it that well, whatever. They don't teach me
Arden Benner 1:34:25
anything. Um I pray to God that the guidance counselor's don't have to listen to this. Can you
Scott Benner 1:34:32
imagine that? Like we are not giving her we're not giving her community service for telling us that the kids in school or what did you say earlier
Arden Benner 1:34:41
when I said drug?
Scott Benner 1:34:45
All right. Anyway.
Arden Benner 1:34:48
You should also get Harper from Wizards of Waverly Place she's also a diabetic. Yeah. What's her name? I'm sure a lot of these celebrities are going to be diabetic and like three years.
Scott Benner 1:34:58
You think people are just getting more diabetes? This because this is type one I know but these type one isn't she Alexandria?
Arden Benner 1:35:04
Yeah, she has she just got she pulled out a book about it. She put out sugar I think that's it sugar high sugar high. Have any of you read it
Scott Benner 1:35:13
unexpected journey of an inexperienced type one.
Arden Benner 1:35:16
Get her on experience her.
Scott Benner 1:35:19
Well, Mister missing something. Check into this book for a second. Where's Amazon when you need it? Verb don't pop into the thing.
Arden Benner 1:35:32
I didn't I turned. Hey,
Unknown Speaker 1:35:36
she just put this book out. Yeah. Get her on.
Scott Benner 1:35:40
Maybe I could.
Arden Benner 1:35:41
I think I could totally do it. I can get them on. Vicki had her come on. No, that was a total lie. But I could try. Riga hit her up on Instagram. I feel like you could use the whole thing. Like we gave you all that money for a photo op just be on the podcast?
Scott Benner 1:35:56
Because you paid to take a picture with her boyfriend who's gonna be your husband? Yeah, exactly.
Arden Benner 1:35:59
Alright, so it seems pretty okay to me. Okay, though. A lot of money for that photo up.
Scott Benner 1:36:07
The show is pretty popular in Australia. Maybe she knows that. It really is.
Arden Benner 1:36:11
What show mine. Oh, this is not a show.
Scott Benner 1:36:14
Yes, it is. No, it's not. What makes this different than anything else.
Arden Benner 1:36:20
Like everything. We're doing this in a room that's painted a horrible color.
Scott Benner 1:36:25
I don't know who picked it. It's mom. It's the spare bedroom color.
Arden Benner 1:36:27
Yeah, Mom's really not good at this stuff.
Scott Benner 1:36:29
Or color picking. Yeah. Okay, so. All right. I really do want to stop. I want you to tell me. No, yeah, you're gonna tell me something. Okay. So look at me in the face. Stop looking at that. I can't look at you in the face. I'm gonna put that away. I'm gonna look at the painting. Okay, look at the painting and listen to me. Okay. What do you think the most important part of managing insulin is? Let's be serious. Like what?
Arden Benner 1:36:57
I do. You're asking me questions I genuinely don't have an answer to
Scott Benner 1:37:00
okay, then why do you think you'd be okay? Taking care of yourself?
Arden Benner 1:37:03
Because it's not that big of a deal.
Scott Benner 1:37:07
What if you eat french fries? What happens if you eat french fries? To myself, but then what happens later? You're more self aware as one actually closed your loop. You close the loop. You close the loop. You're near your phone.
Arden Benner 1:37:21
Now you're closer to it. I can't bend right now.
Scott Benner 1:37:23
You're gonna make me get the phone. Yeah, don't get the phone now you're gonna come off poorly if you don't get the phone now you get the phone. Get the phone. Come on your pants on that's your shirt. You get the phone. My pants don't match my shirt. I'm being punished Hello crime
Arden Benner 1:37:35
get phone a white collar crime. That sounds horrible. No, it
Scott Benner 1:37:39
doesn't. Yeah, it does. Sounds like a crime if I put on there colors that don't go together.
Arden Benner 1:37:45
Yeah, they don't. While you're wearing your Outer Banks pants.
Scott Benner 1:37:51
So if I have shorts on that look like they're for the beach. They're my outer banks pants.
Arden Benner 1:37:56
Yeah, that's the only beach I remember going to when I was little. You don't remember? St. John. Okay, that's completely different. That's like an island.
Scott Benner 1:38:03
Oh, it's an island is just the giant beach. You know?
Arden Benner 1:38:07
Yeah, but it's different. The Outer Banks is not like St. John. No, it's not. Yeah. That's what I did. I know what they're still
Scott Benner 1:38:15
both beaches. They are. Okay. So what do you think the most important thing is somebody you're sweaty? Yeah. Probably shouldn't say no microphone. I don't really edit this.
Arden Benner 1:38:25
Anyone have a good deodorant brand?
Scott Benner 1:38:27
You need to do deodorant? Yeah. Here's doesn't work.
Arden Benner 1:38:31
No, not for not for like smelling purposes, but like sweating purposes,
Scott Benner 1:38:36
you do the antiperspirant? Maybe people will send
Arden Benner 1:38:40
in suggestions. No, don't do that. I'm not gonna read them. Okay,
Scott Benner 1:38:44
so when we talk coming up in these other these other episodes, here's what I feel like we're going to talk about you ready? Yeah, we're going to talk about your basil, and how to get it right and how to change it if you need to. We're going to talk about Pre-Bolus and your meals. We're going to talk about how different foods need different amounts of insulin. We're going to talk about how to handle fat and protein when it makes your blood sugar go up later. Okay, and we're going to talk about other things like how you can help yourself if you're in a real bad situation, I'm not going to be in a bad situation, just in case you are it would be nice to know how to handle it. Right?
Unknown Speaker 1:39:24
I can handle it. Well, what if you passed out right now?
Arden Benner 1:39:27
So you're my next year?
Scott Benner 1:39:29
So your blood say your blood sugar is so steep? You're
Arden Benner 1:39:31
asking me a question. If I pass out, I can't help myself. So it's over.
Scott Benner 1:39:35
What if you knew it was going to what if you could look at your CGM and say to yourself, my blood sugar is falling. I can't stop it. I could do something now to stop myself from passing I'll
Arden Benner 1:39:44
drink a juice or something.
Scott Benner 1:39:45
Right? What if that doesn't work? Juice so you have no context for that? Because it just doesn't happen to you. Yeah. Do you know why it doesn't happen to you? Because I have a diabetic guy next to me. No, that's not why It's because your basil is really well set. You do a really consistently decent job of Pre-Bolus and your meals.
Arden Benner 1:40:07
I don't think we can do another one of these. I can't listen to that for another house. Your settings
Scott Benner 1:40:11
are right. And that's the stuff we're gonna go through next. Okay, are you excited talking to the microphone? No, I'm not excited at all. Actually, that part you're not gonna like, alright, but we're gonna do it anyway. Yeah. I really want to thank you for doing this with me today. Yeah. Would you like to say goodbye to everyone? I would
Arden Benner 1:40:26
just like to say that Haiti grows up to be like, more badass than Hannah. I called it.
Scott Benner 1:40:30
I believe it's Hattie. No, I think it's Haiti. You think they're calling their kid Haiti? Yeah, I believe it's Hattie. I think it's Haiti. Why would you think it's Haiti? Ha TT right. Wasn't a DD it was DD? Yeah, that sounds more like Hatti No, it
Arden Benner 1:40:48
sounds a Haiti to me.
Scott Benner 1:40:49
Haiti is H A TIA. i
Arden Benner 1:40:53
It sounds like Haiti to me.
Scott Benner 1:40:54
Haiti is a country you know that right? Yeah, I'm aware.
Unknown Speaker 1:40:56
Okay. Hold on. Let's see. Alright, so
Scott Benner 1:41:00
I can't believe this is what we got on this is what we're talking about. Hannah Nicole. We're not arguing about how that's pronounced. Ya know how it's pronounced. Hadassah grace.
Arden Benner 1:41:09
Is it Hadassah?
Scott Benner 1:41:10
Yeah, but it's Hattie. Why would someone call their kid Haiti?
Arden Benner 1:41:16
I think it's a cool name. Hate IE. Haiti. Yeah, it's a cool name. Well, that's not
Scott Benner 1:41:20
what they're calling the kid. You should try it. You want them to change the baby's name?
Arden Benner 1:41:25
No, I only change it to just try it out.
Unknown Speaker 1:41:27
for like a week. Yeah.
Arden Benner 1:41:29
She's She responds to it. So I'm gonna tell you I think it's Hattie. I don't know. We're gonna have to ask Chelsea. Is that her name? Her name is Chelsea. Chelsea. Sounds like a character's name.
Scott Benner 1:41:40
I don't know that. She wants her last name. Yeah, we'll see. All right. Well, I'll cut.
Arden Benner 1:41:49
I bet it's fine. That's your kid online. That's a
Scott Benner 1:41:52
private Facebook group. Only the people who are members in there? Oh, well,
Arden Benner 1:41:55
then why don't they just join? Like, I'm getting you more people. Now if you join, you can see children. You get to see the babies. Yeah. It is a really good thing. We can all fight if it's Haiti or whatever it is. It's clearly not Haiti. It should be Haiti. I
Scott Benner 1:42:10
think they should try it. But you see now that it's not. I don't know. I'm still against it. What do you think we should call this episode? Haiti or Hattie? No, it's gonna be called conversation with art. And Part One.
Arden Benner 1:42:27
Oh, no, that's boring. Don't do that. What should we call it? Call it a? I don't know. It's think.
Scott Benner 1:42:33
Do you believe that people have gotten to know you during this? A little bit better?
Arden Benner 1:42:38
No. I think people who don't understand my sense of humor think I'm a real brat right now.
Unknown Speaker 1:42:42
You think they think you're a brat? Yeah.
Scott Benner 1:42:44
Yeah, I would think I would tell you that. I think you.
Arden Benner 1:42:49
A lot of people think that I treat you poorly. Like my parents poorly. Oh, I don't feel like that. Yeah. I don't know. Being white. It's completely different. That's what I've learned. being white. Yeah. Because none of my friends all my friends are like foreign of some sort. Okay, their houses are so much different.
Scott Benner 1:43:06
Okay, hold on a second. Let's go through this one at a time. So you know, you have a lot of Indian friends. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 1:43:11
Kalyan.
Scott Benner 1:43:12
They all treat their parents differently. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They're much more like reverent of them. Yeah. Especially Filipino. Right. Which, I don't know which one of your friends would be would dare to be harsh against their parents? Don't you don't say their name? I I know who say their background instead? Italian. Okay. That's the that's the besides you. So would you agree. She's
Arden Benner 1:43:39
also the closest to like, she's like, closest to like, I don't know, like, like more Americanized,
Scott Benner 1:43:46
but then people from other countries who are more recent immigrants.
Arden Benner 1:43:52
Know, Like, what I'm saying is I have friends, I will openly curse and come home and say what I think I do not hold back what I believe like, I will tell you what I think. And I've had friends who were like, Oh, I can never say that to my parents.
Scott Benner 1:44:06
But do you think that has anything to do with our background? And not being
Arden Benner 1:44:09
white? Yeah, yeah. 110%
Unknown Speaker 1:44:11
you think it's that? Yeah,
Scott Benner 1:44:13
it's not that Mom and I are just open minded. We let you say what you want. No way. You can move your chair. He's sticking to things Yeah, I
Arden Benner 1:44:22
have a skirt on and I'm sticking I shorts onto this. Hold on.
Scott Benner 1:44:26
I mean, it's okay. Okay, get back on the mic. So you don't think it's because mom and I like consciously raised you to say what you think
Arden Benner 1:44:34
that's part of it? Yeah, we actually actually talked about this last night with living tonge. What do you guys thought about cursing? We're talking about cursing. We were saying how, like, when we were younger, like a lot of like houses would like, do be like, oh, there's a baby in the house like don't curse and I was like, it was meant to really do that. Like we grew up like cursing. It's just part of life just to do it. And then we were just talking about it. Yeah, yeah.
Scott Benner 1:44:56
So I don't so I think if you want to hear something I think seriously I think you should be allowed to speak the way you want to speak, I think you should be able to say what you want to say. I think there have been times in your life where your opinion is not fully formed. But it doesn't mean that it's not your opinion at that moment. It is difficult as a parent sometimes to be, have something thrown in your face. It's hard when you're wrong. And you say something, but I still let you have your opinion. And it's also it's often you're wrong, you're wrong. Often you're right about it. And it's difficult for me, because I'm faced with the idea that I was wrong. And I think some parents don't want to hear that they're wrong. So that's where they you can't
Arden Benner 1:45:37
say, yeah, a lot of you are wrong.
Scott Benner 1:45:41
Well, I'm wrong a lot, right.
Arden Benner 1:45:42
Unless your kids just, you know, really wrong, you know, all the time unless they're going down a bad path. Yeah, you're probably right.
Scott Benner 1:45:51
So you think in general, like day to day stuff, that doesn't involve you becoming a meth dealer? Parents are not understanding what's happening. With kids. Yeah. Oh,
Arden Benner 1:46:03
I don't know. You will not
Scott Benner 1:46:05
generalize. No, you're funny. Okay. You won't generalize. But you do generalize. You're like, I'm not generalizing about people. But white people are definitely like that. Yeah, for sure. And I can definitely say that you can say, Well, okay, I'm not stopping you from saying, let's
Arden Benner 1:46:18
be honest here. The worst, like group of people is white boys. But our white men, but white boys, those are the worst group of people. They're like, the most like, Oh, my God, just like if you punch them in the face once I think they'd be okay. I think they just need a slap in the head.
Scott Benner 1:46:34
Do you think white boys need to be slapped in the head? Why is that? You're from a very diverse place. Like we live in a fairly diverse place.
Arden Benner 1:46:43
Yeah, a lot of white boys who live here look like they have rocks in their head. Like, I think if you just slap them across the face once they might be okay.
Scott Benner 1:46:51
Maybe just make the rocks
Unknown Speaker 1:46:51
into a brain. Yeah. Okay.
Scott Benner 1:46:53
You think that has something to do with their background? Yeah. Why would that be?
Arden Benner 1:46:59
I don't know. Maybe they just have more stupid look on their face. Like, I don't know. Maybe they're more unattractive? Who knows? Dad?
Scott Benner 1:47:07
Do you think that other backgrounds have it more together?
Arden Benner 1:47:12
Yeah, really? Yeah.
Scott Benner 1:47:15
Okay, because they, maybe it's because their parents didn't let them curse and say what they thought.
Arden Benner 1:47:20
I mean, maybe? You know what? I don't know.
Scott Benner 1:47:23
I know. You don't know. I don't know how you started talking about this.
Arden Benner 1:47:26
Oh, neither do I actually,
Unknown Speaker 1:47:27
we were talking about what we're talking about. A Hattie.
Arden Benner 1:47:32
Yeah. Wait, how did we get here? I don't know. Someone comment down below. I'm just getting this isn't YouTube, is it?
Scott Benner 1:47:39
Yes, it's not YouTube. Okay. That's interesting. So when should we get back together and record the other stuff? When would be good for you keeping in
Arden Benner 1:47:48
mind anytime before September 2.
Scott Benner 1:47:51
So we're gonna need to get on the calendar and do this a bunch of times. Yeah. All right. Well, why don't we say goodbye to everybody and then we'll pick some other days.
Arden Benner 1:47:58
Wait, I can't do it on his birthday. You can't do
Scott Benner 1:48:02
take that out of here. You can't say Paul's name. He's a friend.
Arden Benner 1:48:05
We take that out. That was a joke too. So take that out.
Scott Benner 1:48:09
Okay, please. Fine. All right. So we'll, um, we'll pick something up
Arden Benner 1:48:15
here. I definitely can't do it. It won't cause an eye appointment.
Unknown Speaker 1:48:18
If the guy was very busy that day.
Scott Benner 1:48:21
We could do tomorrow. We get it tomorrow and that's his birthday. But we could do tomorrow on Sunday and then we and that we could do tomorrow on Sunday and then maybe finish up next weekend and we'd be done. Just Bert I did off that about disgusting What do you think? We'll do it like that? We'll do a little more tomorrow a little more Sunday. I don't think I can do this again tomorrow. You cannot speaking for today. We're not gonna talk nearly as long Oh yeah.
Arden Benner 1:48:47
What's What's the weather like tomorrow?
Scott Benner 1:48:50
I think it's supposed to be on at tomorrow. Okay,
Arden Benner 1:48:54
well, you only I am going out tomorrow with mom. Okay,
Scott Benner 1:48:56
well we only need an hour
Arden Benner 1:48:57
Yeah. If any of you know how to so I will pay you to do my portfolio what you you want to cheat to get into college? No, I'm not cheating to get into college isn't a little help.
Unknown Speaker 1:49:07
No push. So tell what's finished
Scott Benner 1:49:10
with that that what do you want to do in college? Oh, I don't know. What are you interested in?
Arden Benner 1:49:18
I don't need them to know my whole life story. Okay,
Unknown Speaker 1:49:19
that's okay. Can
Unknown Speaker 1:49:20
you hear that? They're not allowed to know Yeah, okay. All right.
Arden Benner 1:49:23
This is where it gets personal. Yeah, you guys can hear all about my bloody hoo ha but not what you're generally interested in Yeah, I don't want you guys know anything else about my life.
Scott Benner 1:49:35
All right, well, then we'll stop it right here. Thank you for doing this
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#958 Jane Drinks Water
Bethany's daughter has type 1 diabetes.
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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends, welcome to episode 958 of the Juicebox Podcast.
Bethenny is on the show today she is the mother of four children. One of them has type one diabetes her child uses on the pod five and we have a lovely conversation. While you're listening. Please remember that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan or becoming bold with insulin. If you'd like to save 10% off your first month of therapy, use the link betterhelp.com forward slash juicebox. To save 40% off of your entire order, use the offer code juice box at checkout wallet cozy earth.com. And to get five free travel packs and a year's supply of vitamin D, go to my link. Drink ag one.com forward slash juice box you can drink the same drink that I do every morning. If you're looking for community around you diabetes, check out the Facebook group Juicebox Podcast type one diabetes there's a private group and a public page. Make sure you join both
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Bethany 2:13
Hi, I'm Bethany and I'm here to talk about my daughter Jane has diabetes.
Scott Benner 2:19
Jane has diabetes. Yes, you are the parent of more than one child though. Is that right?
Bethany 2:23
Yes, I have four children. Their three boys and one girl. The girl has diabetes. They are 863 and a half and 2863
Scott Benner 2:32
and a half into the end. Jane is how old? She is six. She's six. Okay. 863 and a half to anybody who's on the Facebook page knows I'm very sick right now. Definitely. So if I if I say something like five seconds from now, like Jane is three, you'll go no, Scott, she's six. Are you okay? That kind of thing. And she's had diabetes for a couple years.
Bethany 2:56
Yes. She was diagnosed two years ago tomorrow, actually.
Scott Benner 3:00
Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Did you set this up on purpose? Sort of.
Bethany 3:04
I mean it when I scheduled it, you know, it was during this time anyway. And I was like, oh, that's kind of that's kind of cool.
Scott Benner 3:14
How did you figure out she had diabetes?
Bethany 3:17
Well, her diagnosis story for me actually starts a couple of months before diagnosis. So it was she was diagnosed in October of 2020. And during the summer of 2020. You know, everything was in shutdown and life was insane. And I had at the time three kids and I was extremely pregnant. And so Jane had a UTI in late June. And at that point, that was when everybody was doing remote telehealth and like you really couldn't go into the pediatricians office unless it was really bad. So I called the pediatrician and she gave me some suggestions of things to do at the house and then bring her back in and a few days to see if those things were helping and so we did that and and took her in and she definitely had a UTI but they tested her urine This is how I know for sure that in the end of June she did not have any symptoms. So they tested her urine she had a UTI it was clearing said keep doing what you're doing. You're good. So don't think anything of it.
Scott Benner 4:25
You're saying that they saw her urine then and there was no talk about
Bethany 4:29
diabetes at all like no glucose, no ketones, you know, none of that and her urine her urine other than the fact of her having a UTI that was clearing everything looked normal. So then she turned four and the end of September and I had my fourth baby two days before she turned four. And that was crazy. Crazy times two. But when she turned four, the well the day that I had my fourth child you You know, of course we all my babies are born in the middle of the night. So we leave our house at the super, super early in the morning, my mom comes over to watch the rest of the kids. And when we got home, she told me she was like Jane wet the bed. And I was like, That's really weird. She hasn't done that in like over a year. But maybe it's just a fluke thing, I don't know. And then the next month was pure chaos, because I had my oldest son at the time was in first grade doing entire remote learning in Spanish. He's in the Spanish Immersion program. So everything was in Spanish. And then Jane was very sick, but I did not know what was happening. And then my next son, Levi, he was 18 months old and was literally like swinging from the chandeliers. And then I had a newborn and no sleep, you know, all of that. And I just vividly remember looking over at Jane, probably two weeks after my baby was born and and said, Jane, do you feel okay, you don't look so good. And she was like, I'm just so so tired, Mommy, I'm just so tired. And I felt terrible. Because in my mind, she was so tired because we'd moved her in to the room with her brothers. So her sleeping was not good. The baby was waking your whole house up multiple times a night, you know, I just, I already felt guilty who did not did not foresee the guilt that was going to come. But it's like, I'm just so sorry. Well, then, about a week and a half after that she wet the bed out of seven nights, she wet the bed five nights out of seven. And that that was just not, you know, the norm for her. So I knew something was wrong. I can't believe diabetes never crossed my mind at that time. But definitely why why do you what do you think? Because in retrospect, as soon as we got to the pediatrician, and they said there that there's glucose in your urine. My first thought was diabetes. She has diabetes. Like you don't have to tell me she
Scott Benner 6:56
so you know something about diabetes prior to this? Yes.
Bethany 7:00
So my, my first cousin, my mom's brother's son has type one diabetes. And so my mom has always been looking out for my kids like, Oh, they're drinking a lot of water. Do you think they have diabetes? They're drinking a lot of water. But my kids only drink water. And it was hot. We were in North Carolina. So it's super, super hot. Even in September, October. It's you know, getting up in the 80s and 90s. They drink tons of water. So I was always like, Mom, my kids are fine. Fine. So I didn't. I didn't think anything of it. I thought she must have another UTI. But I remember telling my husband, I think she has a UTI. But her symptoms are completely different this time. And so I tried to get her in on a Friday. But it was a teacher workday. All my kids were home and like didn't have anything to do. So they were crazy. And I called the pediatricians office, they didn't have an appointment. And I said, I think it's a UTI. And she said, well, let's just do what you did last time that worked and then bring her in on Monday. She already had her four year old well visit scheduled for Monday. So they said just wait until Monday and we'll check. So I'm kind of thankful that that happens the way it did because at least we had one more weekend of not insanity.
Scott Benner 8:18
It sounds like everything was pretty insane. But well, it was.
Bethany 8:21
Yes, you're right.
Scott Benner 8:23
I have questions before we move forward. Yeah, sure. We're at the second UTI theory. But let's hold that for so first of all, I heard a humble brag where you told me your son's in a complete Spanish immersion. I didn't mean and I heard another humble brag. The kids only drink water. That was nice. We hear you're a good mom. I thought for a while you must live in Utah, because you've got four kids under the age of six. I thought you were building an army for the Lord.
Bethany 8:45
Yeah, I was expecting you to in Utah, actually, yeah, I'm married to my high school sweetheart as well. So if I figured if I had thrown that in that would have sealed the deal. That's meeting in Utah.
Scott Benner 8:55
But you're but you live in North Carolina? Yes. But you're definitely a Mormon, right? No, no. Okay. Well, you check a lot of boxes in case you want to get in. Yeah, they make some good friends. I think possibly not actually being that would slow you down from getting him. I don't know how you get in. I'm sure it's probably there's probably an application process. But I think you I think they would take you in three seconds is what I'm saying. I mean, you're you're you're four fifths of the way to a basketball team. And yeah, no, they would definitely let you in. Okay, so isn't it interesting that you listen to the podcast and then thought to yourself, he's gonna think I'm Mormon based on how my life is. Do you come from a big family?
Bethany 9:36
No, actually, I don't at all. I just have one sister and each with my parents and we had one sibling as well.
Scott Benner 9:41
Yeah, husband come are a big family. Um,
Bethany 9:43
he has one biological brother one half sister when adopted sister and one sort of adopted brother so
Scott Benner 9:51
yeah, that's a yes. But he's it's not like a dominance thing. Like he doesn't jump out of bed and yell I got you pregnant again. Or? No, no. No, we
Bethany 9:59
always want Then four kids.
Scott Benner 10:00
Oh, wow. Okay, and how old are you?
Bethany 10:02
34?
Scott Benner 10:05
Wow. 34 Six. That's nice. That's a good age. I like the edge. Alright, so isn't it nice that I've given my permission that it's okay. What that will do are? By the way, people don't know, Bethany. Let's tell them here. I've said it once, but I'm gonna say it again. I'm very sick. So this could go a number of different ways. I am keeping up though. You thought that her symptoms of diabetes mimicked enough of the of the UTI that you went back again, the doctor put you on that process? Just try these things? Again? I'm assuming they didn't work this time?
Bethany 10:40
Well, no, because you know, she, she didn't have a UTI. So we ended up going in the following Monday, which was October 26. For her well visit. You know, and again, it's during COVID. So we have to wait in the car for forever. And they bring us in, I've got it's just me, Jane, and then my newborn at the time. He's four weeks old. And the nurses like okay, you're here for a while visit? Do you have any concerns? I said, I think she might have a UTI. There's something going on. And she's like, okay, no problem, we'll get a urine sample, the doctor will be in to talk to you know, about normal four year old things. So we're in that process. And then the nurse comes in and interrupts the doctor and she has a sticky note and said this was her urine. And she said, Are you sure? She said I ran it twice. And I knew right them before they even said anything. And I said, Oh, no. And she said, There's glucose in your urine. That that it it might be okay. Don't panic yet. And you know, Jane has no idea what's going on. And I'm like, already starting to cry. I'm also extremely hormonal and postpartum. You know, just like, yeah, control anything. So she's like, it's okay. It's okay. And she said, What did Jane have for breakfast? And I had no clue what the child had for breakfast. down on the floor lady. My life is insane. Right now. I said Daddy was in charge of breakfast. Janie, what did you have for breakfast, honey? She said, um, I had Cinnamon Toast Waffles with syrup and whipped cream and a pop tart.
Scott Benner 12:12
Oh my god. That sounds like what your husband would do.
Bethany 12:15
So yeah, my kids the only drink water.
Scott Benner 12:19
You they only drink water when they're with you, by the way. Right? Right. Right. Maple syrup when they're with your husband. Exactly.
Bethany 12:27
So I was like, Oh my gosh. She said, Okay, well, she sounds like she had a lot of sugar for breakfast. It could just be a fluke thing. We're going to prick her finger. And you know, even though at the time I had a general idea of diabetes, I did not know specifics. So she was like, we want it to be around 100 up to 150 Max and I was like, Okay, and so they pick up you know, the wash your hands prick your finger was 600 and she was like, Okay, you're gonna need to go to the hospital that your baby can't go with you to the hospital.
Scott Benner 12:57
Oh, that's a COVID because the COVID one thing about COVID Why didn't get freakin sick once during COVID Bethany? Never once I was locked in my house. And now my chest hurts and my head is spinning and I'm hot and cold. COVID COVID saved us. No, I'm just kidding. Okay, see? Well,
Bethany 13:17
the irony for me was that I had a whole baby and avoided the hospital entirely. I didn't even go to the hospital when I had him. And now I'm like,
Scott Benner 13:25
wait, I'm gonna have to go to the hospital. Bethany. Where did the baby come out in the driveway?
Bethany 13:31
No, almost though. No, we used a birth center just to be able to avoid the hospital setting. And it was an amazing, wonderful experience. But the birth center is an hour away from us. And I literally thought I was going to have him in the driveway. So he came. Okay. Not 20 minutes after we pulled in.
Scott Benner 13:50
There's no way your husband could have delivered the baby because we saw how he made breakfast so
Bethany 13:54
well that's true. He although he really wanted to have the baby in the car, he thought that'd be a really cool story. So
Scott Benner 14:01
he's not wrong about that. Honestly, even the thing about me being sick is a great story. I realized yesterday when I got done like I told Bethany something before we started recording, which I don't know if I'll share with people on the podcast or not. But even as as like horrible as it was, it was a good story. You don't I mean, so. I would do it for the story too. Although you're ruining the leather I would imagine.
Bethany 14:23
Yeah, yeah, I did pack lots of towels and trash bags and that sort of thing because I really thought he was coming in the car. Oh, no
Scott Benner 14:30
kidding. You were actually concerned about it. Yes,
Bethany 14:33
I Yes. I'm very much I mean, fourth child, you know, he came real quick.
Scott Benner 14:37
Oh, yeah. girls that haven't had a baby don't know what you're talking about. But yeah, they start flying out you almost have to slow him down. You don't I mean, like put rubber bands at the undersell? Yeah,
Bethany 14:50
I was telling myself just Just don't let your water break because water breaks in the baby's here.
Scott Benner 14:56
You know how those those jets land on the aircraft carriers. Yeah, and then they hit the hook on the wire. That's sort of what they should maybe do. I don't know how you'd work that out. I'm not an engineer Bethany. But okay, so Alright, so now we're now we're, we've gotta go to the hospital. I assume you got to pass the baby off to somebody else in your family.
Bethany 15:15
Yeah, I mean that that came into a bit complication, though, because he'd never had a bottle. I didn't have any restaurants saved up. I mean, really four weeks in, so I had no way to feed him. So the nurse and the pediatrician were amazing. Like, they gave me bottles of water. They gave me samples of formula they gave me like, the little bottles to mix it all in. And so they sent me with everything that I needed. But you know, getting a baby to take formula that's never had formula is not the easiest thing in the world. So that did not go well. So it was the story of my life. During that time. It was chaos. I had my mom pick up my other two boys, one from preschool and one from my husband's work. I had my husband meet me at the hospital. I had his mom drive separately and meet us at a hospital. I had the baby in my car with Aaron's mom, and I would run down every three hours and nurse him and then go back up and she just stayed in the car pretty much for two days with him. We came home. I came home with the baby. And my husband stayed overnight while she was launching was in the hospital
Scott Benner 16:28
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Bethany 20:24
But my mother in law and my newborn stayed in the car for probably about eight hours the first day and then probably close to eight to 10 hours the second day.
Scott Benner 20:36
Do you have like a Harvard Business degree or something? Why are you so good at coordinating things?
Bethany 20:41
Oh, well, I majored in math and taught high school math for a while. So
Scott Benner 20:46
I mean, you're you are coordinating the entirety of this thing. Plus, your plus your boobs need to go somewhere else, you know, not where you're going, did you ever consider your husband going to the hospital and you staying with the baby? Or? Well,
Bethany 21:02
he did. Thankfully, they did allow both of us to be in the hospital, which was, we weren't sure, you know, because the rules and everything we didn't know if we'd both be allowed up. But they wanted both of us there so that we could both be trained. And I knew from the very beginning that I would be the one managing James diabetes, because I stay at home. So you know, it was essential that I was there so that that part wasn't that much of an option. I mean, I love my husband, and I trust him dearly. But I needed to hear the information for myself, not from him. So
Scott Benner 21:33
no, I understand was the information valuable?
Bethany 21:38
It was, and you know, at the time, I didn't realize how, how great we had it, in listening to the podcast and other people's stories. You know, there obviously, are a lot of doctors and professionals out there who don't think the way that you think and the way that you manage diabetes, and that sort of thing. And clearly, our endocrinologist and our diabetes educator, both have very much the mind, same mindset as us. So, you know, when they were training us, they said, Okay, you know, she's so tiny, here's her ratios and everything, but right now we're gonna give her her insulin after she eats. But eventually, you want to get to the point where you give it to her before and probably even like, 10 or 15 minutes before. And I was like, Well, why? Why are we giving it to her after now? And they're like, Well, you know, because you don't always know what she eats or what she's going to eat. And I was like, well, let's give it to her beforehand, then if, you know, she starts to go low, or changes her mind or whatever, I'll give a candy. She'll always eat candy, you know?
Scott Benner 22:35
It'll be fine. I'll let my husband cook for it'll be okay.
Bethany 22:38
Exactly, exactly. So. So they gave me a lot, a lot of good, helpful information, and were very supportive. So she was diagnosed on a Monday, she spent Monday night, thankfully, she was not in DKA. We caught it very early. Her agency was 7.3 diagnosis. So it was not, you know, I didn't know at the time, how good or bad that was. So, in retrospect, it was pretty good.
Scott Benner 23:09
For everything that was going on Bethenny, I think it's astonishing that you picked it up. Like, really, it's well done. You know what I mean? Like, and it's funny, because you're gonna tell me soon, I imagine that you feel incredible guilt about something which, you know, but it sounds like you've figured this out very quickly.
Bethany 23:25
Yeah, I mean, I am thankful that we did catch it so early. I do feel like I could have caught it two weeks earlier. But honestly, two weeks earlier, probably wouldn't made that big of a difference for Jane. And it would have made my life significantly more difficult and having had a two week old. But yeah, so she came home on on Tuesday, she only had spent one night in the hospital. So that that was good. And then we came home shots and finger pricks, we did not get a Dexcom in the hospital. But they told me about it. And they said, We want to get you on one as soon as possible. So let's make a you know, in office endocrinologist appointment on Friday, and we'll get you set up with that. Also, say this. So our family in general, our immediate family, like my children, and my husband and I are typically very healthy people, you know, we get the common cold and that sort of stuff. But we before diabetes, we did not have a single prescription that we were ever taking on any of us, you know, never had to go to the doctor except for well visits basically. So my husband's self employed and my insurance works. It was astronomically expensive to have insurance for us and for children. So we looked into all the options and we at the time we had decided to be on a Health Share Plan, which I don't know how much you know about that,
Scott Benner 24:48
but help help share, Health Share, share, okay, yeah,
Bethany 24:52
like a Medical Health Share Plan. So basically, you pay a much lower rate every month and and they cover well visits, they do cover sick visits and illnesses and things like that. But they have a lot of rules and a lot of things that they don't cover. And at the time when we decided that, obviously, we did not know that Jane was going to get diabetes, so we were like, Oh, well, we don't have any of these chronic conditions. We're not gonna have any of these products, we'll be fine. So one of my first thoughts, when as soon as I realized diabetes, I was like, Oh, my gosh, or that helps share doesn't cover diabetes, like you barely covers anything. Yeah, yes, they won't cover insulin, they won't cover anything. So of course, like, not only am I trying to figure out the logistics of maneuvering all of my children and keeping everyone safe. I'm also like, on the phone with a company like, can we go to the hospital? Can we get insulin? Like what can we do? So that was a nightmare in and of itself?
Scott Benner 25:52
Definitely. What what does your husband do for work that he can support six people, and he's doing it on his own as he like a drug me a little or something? Mexico or something? Or when
Bethany 26:04
he sells cars, he's a car dealer. Like he's got his own car lot.
Scott Benner 26:08
I see. Okay, that sounds like wow, that's well done. If you can afford to keep unless you're living in the middle of literally nowhere, and it's super Free to live. But North Carolina's is not a cheap place to live. So I was impressed by your resume. I was impressed. I'm not impressed with how he feeds your children. But I am very much. I am pretty much impressed with the rest of it.
Bethany 26:27
I'm pretty I actually haven't even told him that I'm doing this. So yeah.
Scott Benner 26:31
Then don't tell him he doesn't know. Right? Just Just tell him to keep making the money. You got bills. That's right. He doesn't have time to listen to podcast. Yeah, you're busy buddy. Get in there and sell a car. Do you ask him Hello? At the end of the day? You say hello? Or do you go how many cars you saw?
Bethany 26:49
Oh, no, I say hello. I typically I've gotten the point now so many years now that I don't even really ask him how many cars the kids will ask Do you sell a car today?
Scott Benner 26:58
That's that's just it's really nice. Listen, I have I'm basically a small business owner and most of my day is spent going don't let everybody down. Don't let you know. Yeah, I understand. Okay, so Well, Jesus, that's a lot. Yeah, you did you handled as well as it sounds like you did or how are you doing on the inside?
Bethany 27:20
I'm on the inside. I was not okay. Literally, I just I felt like I was drowning. And it just was like, okay, just survive. We're just we're just going to survive, everybody. Everybody's gonna get through this. There's this old song. I don't even know when it's from or who sings it. But it's like, I don't want to sing on here. But like, Oh, child, things are gonna get easier. Yeah, sure. You have an old song? Well, it's old for me. I think.
Scott Benner 27:51
This is another humblebrag that you're younger than I am. Hold
Bethany 27:53
on. No, no, no,
Scott Benner 27:55
I can't speak spirally my kids drink water.
Bethany 28:00
Now, now we have juice in our fridge all the time. Looks like such so ironic.
Scott Benner 28:05
Hold on, I got the lyrics. Okay.
Bethany 28:08
I feel like it's probably from this song
Scott Benner 28:11
by five stairsteps 1970. Yeah. Oh, they use this in the sea. My brains not working right now. Because I'm dying. Guardians of the Galaxy. Don't they use this think guardian? No, I haven't seen that. What the hell are you doing with your time? What are you taking care of those taking care of kids? Ooh, child, things are gonna get easier. Ooh, child, things are getting brighter.
Bethany 28:34
Yes. That song popped up in my head when we were in the hospital. And literally, I had just had that on repeat those two lines. That's all I knew. But I just it's gonna get easier, it's gonna get brighter, it's gonna get easier, it's gonna get brighter. But then, so then things got really bad for me shortly thereafter. So
Scott Benner 28:55
the song Good work.
Bethany 28:58
Yeah. It helped with my mental state, probably. But physically, I started having some problems. So Jane had got her Dexcom on Friday. And that was so helpful. Like, I was so nice that I still I was not sleeping at all because between the baby and then diabetes, you know, just like, constantly, like not sleeping at all. And so probably about two, four weeks after Jane was diagnosed. I was having tears. Like, I did not know what was happening to me. But I remember standing in the kitchen holding my baby and looking at my husband and saying something is not right with me. I am not okay. And he was like, Be more specific. Tell me what's going on. And I was like, I feel like I'm about to have a heart attack. My heart is racing all the time. I cannot sleep even when I am allowed to sleep. You know, like when there's three hours in the middle of the night. Yeah, yeah, like I can't fall asleep. Just like ever. thing is crazy. I'm losing tons of weight, even though I'm eating everything in sight, but like, I don't know what's going on. And so he had an Apple Watch. And he was like, start wearing this to monitor your heart rate, because that's what I'm concerned about the most. And like, even just completely resting heart rate sitting down holding the baby, my heart rate was 150 beats per minute. And so I'm not okay. So I went to my midwife that used to deliver Noah, and was like, I something's not okay with me. And I don't know if it's just sleep deprivation or what. And she felt my thyroid and said, Your thyroid is really enlarged, you need to go to an endocrinologist. And she was like, I think you have postpartum thyroiditis, which I had never heard of before. And so I was like, okay, so then, you know, I call every endocrinologist around us, and I did not realize how hard it is to get in with an adult endocrinologist. So I finally got an appointment, maybe like a week later. And the lady will not say where she was or her name, but she was so incredibly rude. And, and it took me very off guard because Jane's endocrinologist was the best of the best. And in hindsight now James endocrinologist has left which I literally cried when she left. But and we've had a terrible, terrible experience ever since. So I did not realize at the time how amazing it was that we had a great endocrinologist with James, but I walked in and the lady was like, I don't even know why you're here. You just are stressed because your daughter has diabetes, and you're not getting enough sleep. You just need to go sleep. I was like,
Scott Benner 31:44
Okay, this Endo, they weren't. Were they like a thyroid specialist? Or just Yes, really? Yes. And heard your symptoms and was like, that's not that.
Bethany 31:54
Oh, she hadn't even heard my symptoms yet. She just walked in and said that she's like, you don't need to be here.
Scott Benner 31:59
She doesn't drink enough water. If you were her mom, she'd be happier. That's right.
Bethany 32:04
Yeah. So I was like, whoa, I'm gonna advocate for myself and say that I'm not leaving until I have some bloodwork done, and anything else that needs to determine what's going on with me. And so she was like, well, so she listened to my symptoms. And she was like, Well, I really just think that you're just stressed and overtired. And you need to go home and sleep, but I'll agree to doing blood work. But she she literally said, but I know it's gonna come back normal. And I was like, okay, so I had bloodwork done. And then you know, within 24 hours that was up on where I could get it in my chart or whatever. And I don't I can't remember like, which ways the numbers go but it whatever it was supposed to be. It was like completely opposite like ostrich heart, where you hyper or hypo, I was hyper. Yeah. And so that's my, my heart was racing. I was having restless leg. I wasn't sleeping the anxiety, like on top of already having anxiety, you know, just it was, yeah. That that and so then she messaged me, and she was like, Well, you were right. Thank you.
Scott Benner 33:08
She didn't say I was wrong, because that would have been the more appropriate response, right? Yeah, no.
Bethany 33:14
And she's like, I'm gonna send over some medicine. Well, then, of course, like, because I'm nursing a newborn, I look it up in the medicine, it specifically says like, not to you to take it if you're breastfeeding, because it'll lower your heart rate and the baby's heart rate and like it was just one thing after another. So I had to figure out all of that. But then, she told me, she said, most likely, this is postpartum thyroiditis. And so you'll start in hyper and you'll stay in hyper for a period of time, then you'll go into hypo thyroidism. And then if you're lucky, you'll come out and you'll be normal. But a lot of people stay in the hypo stage.
Scott Benner 33:53
The house like okay, so she didn't know what she was talking about. She was just a jerk. Yes. Okay. Exactly. Well, listen, that's better than her being a jerk and not knowing what she's talking about.
Bethany 34:05
That's true, I guess. Yeah. Right side, things will get brighter.
Scott Benner 34:11
So you're probably singing like crazy and that appointment. Things are gonna get easier.
Bethany 34:18
Oh my gosh, it was it was crazy. So
Scott Benner 34:21
should have asked her she knows that song be like, Listen, I need someone to come through for me. I am. I'm fascinated by that. Like all this has happened to you. And your birthing person so far as the most. I'm assuming they don't have a degree.
Bethany 34:39
No, not I mean, not in thyroid. Yeah,
Scott Benner 34:42
they they like sell cars with your husband on the weekends or something. And then they make the babies come out. And I mean, so you have a good experience at the hospital. But I always wonder about is it just people who work with children? Are they in a default Mr. Rogers setting you know, they mean like if you got them a alone would they just be hard with some of them be like real jackasses too, but they're just in that chilled like, you know what I mean? Because you always hear people say, you know, when we lost our, our child's Endo, we realized how terrible blah blah blah like that story is really common right my child's endo was great. But I think people just mean like pleasant, like, look at look at our line of what we're expecting, like just human, like people are human and they say hello and smile and look in your face. And don't treat you like an idiot when you ask a question. And that we call good. The bar is pretty low. I have to say, we've all we've come to expect nothing. For some reason. I'm sorry. So she, she she tells you about this whole swing. That's probably going to happen. Yes. puts you on. Huh? You're hyper at that point. What did she put? Yeah.
Bethany 35:52
Honestly, I don't even remember it that long. Yeah, so I was I was not on it long. So I, I ended up only taking half a dose because I was concerned. So then then I talked to the pediatrician. And I'm like, Okay, I'm supposed to take this medicine. But I'm nursing. It says not to take it when nursing, but all of the ones that lower my heart rate, because that was the biggest concern was my heart rate at the time. What can also lower the baby's heart rate. So what do I need to do? So then on top of monitoring everything else in my life at the moment, pediatricians like, you need to get a pulse ox monitor and monitor your baby's oxygen levels and your baby's heart rate. Like okay, great.
Scott Benner 36:33
You're rethinking these kids at this point, right?
Bethany 36:36
Well, I also I was like, you're getting a vasectomy. Like we already scheduled this. It was scheduled the Friday that Jane got her Dexcom that was the day that my sister in law tech, my husband to get his second like we're not happy.
Scott Benner 36:51
Let me say something here. If people don't think you're a good person, this is the moment when they know you are because you have four children. All these things happen. And you are still having sex with your husband. You're such a nice lady. Well, I can't
Bethany 37:07
really poor timing because then he was down for like a whole nother week. And
Scott Benner 37:11
what a baby. Are you kidding me? Bethany? You're going through all of this. And his vas deferens get cut and he can't stand up for a week.
Bethany 37:21
Yeah, but it was okay. We we made it we did get easier. Yes, the guy easier. So. So yeah, I'm, I only took half a pill for for a brief amount of time. I feel like it was not even a full month. And I could just tell my own, you know, I'm just very in tune with my body. So I could tell, okay, I feel like I'm going into hypo. So I stopped taking the medicine because the endocrinologist wasn't helpful. And then I knew I was in hypo everything, you know, everything slows down. And then you're dealing with low heart rate, low energy, depression, you know, all of that kind of stuff. And I'm sure Wait, bounce when you got Yes, unfortunately, that was the nicest thing about being in heifers like oh, my gosh, I'm losing the baby weight. So easy. This is great. And then it was like, Oh, wait, it's all coming back.
Scott Benner 38:13
Thing. By the way, Bethany with the isn't it interesting? The the entirety of the planet seems to struggle with their weight in some way or another, but your thyroid just gets turned a little too far. One way. Yeah. And it's 50 pounds drop off. You're like it's nothing?
Bethany 38:27
Yes, it is. It is bizarre. Yeah. So So yeah, that all came back and stuck around.
Scott Benner 38:35
Doesn't seem to be leaving. Yeah. What? What are your level? Are you still medicated or did it
Bethany 38:43
this? No. So I never actually started taking anything for the hypo. Mostly because I went back and did more bloodwork. And she was like, Yeah, you are in hypo. And I was like, Okay, well, what do we need to do? And she was like, just wait it out and see if you come back up into normal levels, or if you're gonna stay here forever, and I was like,
Scott Benner 39:02
Okay. Like, solid advice. I know. Yeah. My son was in that same situation. And and he was like, well, we'll medicate you. And if, if the medicine starts pushing you the wrong way, then we'll stop not we'll just let you suffer until we see what's going on. Right. It
Bethany 39:19
was very frustrating. Yeah. So So thankfully, that stage did not last very long either. And it was just a, maybe I can't even remember maybe a couple weeks up to maybe a month. I know by probably shortly after Christmas. December, probably by the end of January, I would say I was back into normal range. And now you know, I'm pretty adamant about having my levels checked at least once a year and thankfully, I've stayed in range one spot,
Scott Benner 39:51
so Okay, so it did actually resolve. Yes, yes. Do you when they check your levels do you have do you have somebody physically Check your thyroid as well.
Bethany 40:02
Um, yes, good. I do.
Scott Benner 40:06
That's excellent. Look, as you're taking care of things,
Bethany 40:09
trying to take care of me, you know, put the mask on yourself first before taking care of the
Scott Benner 40:13
phone. I mean, especially in your situation, because their husband he wants, you know, apparently he still expects sex all the time.
Bethany 40:19
He really is an amazing husband. I don't.
Scott Benner 40:22
Not in my mind. I'm having fun making fun of him. I don't know. I'm sure he's delightful. I just, I don't feel good, Bethany. And my, my humor stick is only it's only so powerful today. So I have to go with what's right in front of me. Because if I even take too much of a deep breath, I'm gonna go into a coughing fit that disgust you and everybody listening. I'm recording with my window open, which I've never done before. Because I need the fresh air so I don't pass out. That's all good, though. Don't worry, I'm fine. And you have a ton of energy, which is really helpful today. Because if I had to drag this story out of you, I don't know what I would do. I'd be like, yeah, that's it, huh? Okay.
Bethany 41:04
Don't do that anyone has described me as having tons of energy in probably about
Scott Benner 41:08
eight years. You are chatty as a mother. I don't know the how
Bethany 41:11
well I don't get to talk to adults very often.
Scott Benner 41:16
Geez, you're upsetting if you're counting me as an adult. I'll tell you that right now. Like you might need to get out.
Bethany 41:25
Trying what would you do for fun if
Scott Benner 41:27
you didn't have those kids? Oh, you don't want to know I do actually want to know what would you do something like?
Bethany 41:32
Well, right now in my spare time I quilt me quilt.
Scott Benner 41:37
I thought you were gonna say heroin for sure. But do you know, quilting? Okay. Yeah.
Bethany 41:42
I'm basically a grandma.
Scott Benner 41:44
How long have you been that way? Probably all
Bethany 41:47
my life that I mean, I've been quilting for, I don't know, 14 years, maybe.
Scott Benner 41:52
The first time my son asked me, I came and saw us saw a baseball game. I College. He's not in college anymore. But he said, Can you give my girlfriend a ride home afterwards? And I was like, Yeah, sure. It's the first time I had spent any, like time with her. And she pulled out like knitting needles. I'm like, aren't you like 21? You know? And she's like, she's doing this whole thing. And I don't know what it is. And she just goes, Ah, this isn't wide enough. And I went, Okay, like, I don't know anything about it. Then I watched her disassemble the entire thing. Just pull it apart. Yeah, just start over again. I was like, I couldn't even understand how you make the two like knitting needles turn into like a blanket. But when she pulled it apart, I was like, that's amazing. I would I would just quit. Like I know for sure if I got the thing. And I was like, oh, it's not wide enough. I'd be like, I don't need any more. That's exactly what I'm jumping over now.
Bethany 42:47
I'm done. Yeah,
Scott Benner 42:48
I'm not restarting this. It's over. But anyway, I guess it's super relaxing for people. It is. Yeah.
Are you nervous? Or about this interview? No, like, Do you Do you knit or quilt to relax?
Bethany 43:02
Um, yeah, just to slow down, I think because, you know, my wife is still fairly chaotic and full of lots of loud noises and messes and, you know, small children and all of their stuff. So, it's calming, yes.
Scott Benner 43:19
You know, I'd love to tell you that it'll get better when they get older. But it just changes the heart just morphs into something different. So there's no getting out of this. You'll be paying for these kids till you drop dead. Yeah, in one way or another I'm sure Yeah, either. It'll be financially emotionally with your body. Your Spirit something Yeah, yeah. worth it though. Oh, yeah. I mean, of course they are. Yeah, it's a joy. That's so funny. It's a joy it's absolute joy. I remember the part when they were little being delightful you know, let me give you a story. Yesterday, I guess I am going to talk about this. I was recording a special episode for zeros zeros is the company that makes Chivo Capo pen I am it's Jenny and I and and four people two people from the company two people from a PR agency all on this call together. I am a sick as a as I don't know why people say sick is the dog my dog hasn't been sick one day and it's freakin life as far as I can tell. I mean the closest my dogs come to looking sick is rubbing their ass on the ground a little extra so anyway, I don't know where to sit. Alright, hold on a second, Bethany. Now we got to find out where sickness comes from one second sick as a dog. Adam ology. Don't be impressed that I know etymology. The origin of the phrase sick as a dog can be found in the early 1700s When it was common to compare undesirable things to dogs. But the explanation for this isn't that people didn't like dogs. It is that diseases such as the plague are often spread via animals like rats, birds, and unfortunately dogs Oh, sick as a dog. Got it. All right. Well, anyway, Bethany, I was sick as a dog yesterday, my fever broke during the recording of this episode, I was sweating in sheets, not in drops, but in like my, the entirety of my body was wet the whole time. There's a massive amount of information that has to be delivered in two specific ways. The first specific way is it needs to be conversational. It's not just a reading of a list. So you're taking actual things that need to be said sometimes word for word for legal reasons, and weaving it into a conversation. This is not normally how Jenny and I work, but we frayed or we can do it. So there's that task. The other task is that I'm being watched by a number of people, which I don't usually do that I wasn't bothered by so much anyway, I literally hit record, say, Hey, Jenny, say testing for me Testing, testing. And then my phone rings. And I look over because it you know, it's muted. It's hard. And I'm like, Hey, guys, I'm sorry, this is my daughter, I'm gonna answer this before we start. I pick up the phone. And she goes, now I was worried, Bethany because I had received a text from her just moments before that, which I was seeing at the same time as the call. Let me see if I can find the original text. Because I think it makes the story better. Okay, oh, I'm going to kill myself. Oh, no. So you know, I don't have a lot of confidence picking up the phone, right? And I pick up the phone. And I'm like, Hey, what's wrong? Dad, I was getting off the bus. And I started walking. And I realized I lost my ID. Oh, and I turned back around to look for it. And I went on the bus and the bus driver goes, Are you looking for your ID? And I said, Yeah, how do you know that? Because I watched it fall out of your pants while you're walking down the street. Somebody picked it up. So I ran after a bunch of people and I was yelling, hey to somebody pick up my ID nobody answered me. I look like an idiot. I can't buy lunch. I can't get into these buildings. I can't do anything. I can get back into the room. And she's going on and on in the like I have her on speakerphone. While all these people are listening. People who I'm trying to enact a business relationship with, right and who b I've just told five seconds prior Hey, I'm incredibly sick. But don't worry, you won't notice while I'm recording this. Except I'm literally look like I'm kicking heroin as it's happening. Right? Like so. You know, so this is not a great start. And she goes through the whole thing. I said, Listen, I'm working right now. Here's what you should do. Call security. Ask them what to do call your RA. And she goes, but but I'm like Arden, figure it out. Like I didn't hang up on her. But we say goodbye. Right? And then Jenny starts laughing. She goes, what a parental thing to say. I'm like, What do you want me to do? She lost the plastic card. She should figure it out. And then like, I don't know, three hours later. I'm like, are you alright? You got your card and everything. She's like, Yeah, I got a new one. It's fine. And then out of nowhere, she goes is the world effing with me? And I was like, why? And she said somebody found my card and is trying to give it back to me. And she's like, but that was the activator. Now I don't need it. I was like, Oh, they're trying to be nice. You should let them give it back to you. Anyway, if that's what you're saying about kids are great, then. Yeah, sure. They're terrific. That's the only interaction I had with my daughter yesterday.
Bethany 48:39
That's so funny. I can't even imagine my kids that old. Like, that seems like it's forever away. I know. It's not.
Scott Benner 48:46
But yeah, it happens really fast. But yeah, it's very strange. Like my wife and I were in the kitchen yesterday. We're all sick. So it's a lot of fun. Like, we're up to the part of sick rulers like dishes in the sink. And people are like, I don't care. Like I don't I don't care. I don't even think we worked very hard for this house. But if it falls apart, whatever, I can't do anything about it. I'm sick. And my wife says art has been gone for so long already. And she's really been gone. Like, six weeks maybe? Yeah, you know, and she's like, I very badly need to give Arden a hug. Oh, I was like, Oh, I know. I was like, We know we're gonna go get her pretty soon. And she's like, don't you feel like that sometimes. And I was like, I do but I do. Like, I do things like, like I watch TV shows that are that I watched together and stuff. Like when she's not here and like I do little things like that to make me feel like she's around. And, and she's like, do you feel like that about Cole ever? I was like Cole was different. Like Cole was playing baseball like he like he was doing the thing he really wanted to be doing and super busy so I never worried about him like that. Although I do get I get like very upset if called Don't get sick. And I just think that's because Arden has diabetes. Yeah. When Cole gets sick, I get real. I get like, like, viscerally upset. And so I think I don't want him to get type one. If I'm not, I understand that. Yeah, I'm not a therapist, Bethany, but I'm pretty sure that's where the feeling comes from. What have you done so far? Like, are you like, Are there cameras on the other three kids? Have you done trial net or something like that? What do you
Bethany 50:31
I ordered the kits for trial met shortly after Jane was diagnosed. And they honestly have just been sitting in my closet me trying to decide if I want to know I can't decide if it's better to know or better to not know. I mean, now that I do know all of the symptoms, I check all of my kids blood sugar's on a pretty regular basis. And so I try not to worry too much about that. I think. I don't know. I'm so torn is which which is better, but I haven't sent them in. So other than that, it's mostly just like, my husband makes pancake breakfast on Saturday mornings. So it seems, right. So I'm like, Okay, we're all gonna take our blood sugar's now. So there was one time where my oldest son's blood sugar was, like, 197, or something. And my husband and I both looked at each other and sort of panicked. And I was like, go wash your hands. He was like, What did you just eat? This was not after pancake. This was like, in the middle of the day, randomly, you know, and washed his hands, and then checked it. And then it was totally normal. It was like, 92 or something. I was like, what was on your hands? He was like, Oh, well, I just ate a banana and had it all over me. And I just wiped it on my parents was like, okay, that explains it.
Scott Benner 51:49
honest answer. Boys. I like my hands on my pants. Mom. Just so you know, this is my this is my cleansing process right here.
Bethany 51:58
Okay, thank you. So but I really, you know, I go through times where I am very worried about that for my other kids. And then other times when I just realized I can't control that. So I need to not worry about it and just be on the lookout for symptoms. So yeah.
Scott Benner 52:14
How about did you dig more into your family? Because now you had a thyroid issue? Your daughter has type one. Did you find other autoimmune stuff?
Bethany 52:24
Yeah. So you know, I knew that my cousin had type one. But I didn't realize until listening to the podcast that which I started very early on after her diagnosis, but about the association with other autoimmune diseases. So then I asked, you know, our parents and my husband's mom has thyroid issues. My husband's brother has thyroid issues. My mom's mom had thyroid, there's just like a lot of thyroid. There's no other diabetes in our like immediate family history. But on my mom's side, like her cousins and things like that, there's a lot of have type one and type two, but specifically type one. So I think that, you know, not that we were doomed to have it but we just have a lot of autoimmune diseases. So
Scott Benner 53:14
well, Bethenny, you're the first person I'm going to ask a follow up question to that sounds like this. I'm adding this to my repertoire. Okay, how about anything, digestion, constipation.
Bethany 53:28
Well, my dad has a lot of digestion issues, and he's had them for years. And I actually think it was listening to one of your podcasts that I realized, oh, he doesn't have just digestion. Digestion is good. I can't even speak today. Digestive Issues. It's his his type two I didn't mention he is type two diabetic. And he maintains that he has good control of his diabetes, but and listening to pretty sure it was an episode from of yours about, oh, it was Arden's episode about her the supplements that she takes and everything and how, just in that I realized, oh my gosh, like, my dad doesn't digest his food, because he has had such poor control. Not that I know art. And that was not her situation. But you talking about that made me realize the association between type two and those issues. But other than that, not Not that I'm aware of. So okay, my family's pretty.
Scott Benner 54:30
They poop on a schedule?
Bethany 54:32
Oh, I don't know about that. They don't talk about it. So I'm not sure
Scott Benner 54:35
you and your kids don't get together and chart out the poops. Oh, now my kids talk
Bethany 54:39
about poop all the time. But I think that's just because kids are gross.
Scott Benner 54:43
You said they were great. And
Bethany 54:46
they're they're so wonderful. And they're so discussing policy.
Scott Benner 54:49
I was gonna say I don't know, you find other people who you described as great. And have you ever had a conversation with them about them being in the bathroom? I don't think so. Well, that's true. Although I had a conversation with Jenny about it the other day, and she just, she was looking at me. Jenny's the only person I look at when I'm recording with them. For the most part, like sometimes like, you know, somebody comes on from Dexcom or something, I see them, but like you and I are not looking at each other right now. So I'm talking about Arden's digestive stuff with Jenny, we did an episode, which you'll hear six months before this comes out about, you know that, that that T shirt proud owner of a dead pancreas or use that so we did not accurate, right, it's not accurate. So we did like an episode that explains what else your pancreas does, which specifically helps you digest food. And so we're going over all of it. And sort of at the end, I think I tagged on to what we were talking about by telling her that, you know, I realized after watching Arden that I had a lot of the issues that she had. So I started taking the supplements that are taking and and I said something like you could see on her face, she was like, don't talk about when you go to the bathroom. Like she was looking at me like just I know where you're going. Just why don't you stop thinking? Like, I'm sorry, I'm gonna cough. I felt like my mom was looking at me for a second. She's like, What are you doing? And I was like, I get up in the morning now and right away, just like the rest of you. And, and I said that that was not my life for a while. But anyway, the whole time I'm talking she's just looking at me like, you should stop now. Don't tell people about your bathroom habits. I'm like, I'm going to Jenny. It's happening. We were talking with her eyes. I'm like, I'm absolutely gonna do this. Because I think because Bethany like it was it took me like two years to kind of like, suss out Arden's problems, right, and her digestion or poor digestion than poor elimination, where I think was really impacting her in a lot of different ways and ways. We're still finding out I think some of our joint pain had to do with this, like, you know, like a lot of different stuff, you've got guessing. And I felt like I told Jenny, I feel like I feel like an internet hippie. I'm like, I balanced dardennes gut and her knee doesn't hurt anymore. You know what I mean? Like, it seems like a crazy thing to say. And I'm aware of that. But it does seem to be what's happening. So you know, like, so I want to share it with people. You have no idea the the people I've heard back from already?
Bethany 57:18
Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. I mean, the things that people don't talk about are often the things that the people that are in need me to hear about, you know,
Scott Benner 57:26
yeah, so I tell people when I moved because of the thing, that's all I want you to poop better. Seriously, because you don't know what else is going on? Like my back's hurt for my whole life. Like, is it going to stop? Yeah, like, you know, is that inflammation like you don't even because I took a steroid pack one time for a bug bite. It's a weird story, Bethany. But it happened. And I'm and my back stopped hurting. My back hurts my whole life. Like my whole life, since I'm 20. It's hurt. And I get bit by a bug. Do you know this story, Bethany, I don't know that I do. I'm gonna give you the highlights. Okay, lawnmower breaks, I'm on the ground, putting the belt back on the pulley, I must get hit by something. I wake up the next day with this lump on my hand kind of between my thumb and my forefinger on my right hand, very itchy, but only if I touch it. If I don't touch it, it's not itchy. So I'm a boy, what I do is I don't touch it. To the extent of how I'm going to handle it. The next day, a bomb pops up on another finger and another and they're starting to get like systemic on my hand. And I'm like, Well, this is interesting. Whatever bit me is powerful. And now of course, again, boy. I started imagining my spider man powers. I think I'm probably only about 12 hours away from being able to walk up a wall. So I'm not upset at all. Until Oh, Bethany, I feel so bad. But you because you're a lady, but you've got kids that her husband so until my testicles start to itch. Okay, and not itch. But like if they brush against something, or touch something like with the bump, vicious itching. And then if you start rubbing to it, you don't quell the edge, it just gets worse and worse and worse. This goes to other stuff around my testicles. I am now in a panic again on a boy bumps on my hand. I don't think twice everything. It just couldn't bother me. You start touching my penis, things are going to get fixed immediately because I got some needs and that thing is one of them. So I'm right off to urgent care. And now I'm standing there trying to decide how much of this I'm going to tell to the poor, right you know, nurse practitioner who's now in a four by four room with me. You know, and I'm like, Listen, you don't need to see my balls, right? She goes no, I don't think so. And I was like, I don't want to show him to you. I don't feel like you want to see them. You don't I mean like let's say she goes I'm gonna put you on a steroid pack blah blah anyway. The farm missus screws up the steroid pack. By giving me directions that are too strong. She's got me taking too many steroids at the beginning of the thing. I figured out like four days into it, but I'm getting this super dose of steroids is what I wanted to explain. My heart did race a lot, which was not pleasant. But my back these bumps on my hand like Magic Zoom, gone, all the itching, gone. My back felt amazing. I had all of my flexibility back, like, everything was fine. My bowels like like my limb, everything started working better. And I was like, oh my god, inflammation has to be has to impact me in a really significant way. Because the minute you know, I can't take the steroids forever, obviously. But the minute we took inflammation out of my body for a couple of days, the 10 best days of my life. I felt like Superman. That's crazy. Yeah, really just, it's insane. So I'm getting better now. Like the the supplements are helping. My back is starting to loosen up a little bit like it's all kind of going in the right way. So yeah, your stomach. What do you know? Crazy, right? It's crazy. Yeah. All right, Bethany, what have we not talked about that you wanted to?
Bethany 1:01:14
Um, well, we were on MDI for 13 months, which I feel like it's pretty long time, especially for a probably us listeners of your podcast. And I was able to kind of take what you do with pomp and kind of translate it to shots. But I told Jane, from the very beginning, you know, she was only four, she didn't want to have anything on her body. I said, Dexcom is not negotiable, you have to wear it, you have to wear it every day, I have to see your numbers. But I was like, We can wait and get a pump whenever you're ready. So she about a year after diagnosis that I think I'm ready. So it took a little bit of time, we got real insurance once we were allowed to actually get insurance. So that was good. And, you know, it took a little while to like get the approval process and everything for a bump. So we started with the dash. And we've actually been on Omnipod, five for what since June. So June, July, August, September, October, so about five months now. We really like it a lot and your series on Omnipod. Five is very helpful. And we worked with, we actually worked with Integrated diabetes, not specifically with Ginny, which was someone else there but to get to get even their original Omnipod dash that we were on, set up in the settings dialed in and everything. Use them mostly just because her endocrinologist office kind of fell apart after our endocrinologist left. So we've we've had very good success with that. And I have been able to sleep through the night for the first time ever Well, not ever the first time in two years, being on Omnipod five. So that's been very, very nice.
Scott Benner 1:02:55
That's amazing. So tell me about first of all, MDI. So you kind of followed the way the podcast talks about using insulin, but you did it just with four shots. Is that how you handle it?
Bethany 1:03:07
Yeah, so basically got to the point where, you know, the first couple of weeks of injections were terrible, but after that Jamie just kind of gave it and was fine. And it even got to the point where she would give herself shots after a few months. So I was just doing a lot more shots had did not feel bad about it, because it was helping manage her control so much. So we split the Lantis dose and did half in the morning, half in the evening. And then for her meals, you know, we would Pre-Bolus with a shot and then just just in general being more bold with insulin giving corrective doses sooner, not being afraid for her to have a snack because that road require another shot just giving her a shot, she wanted another snack, you know, that sort of thing. So we maintained a low six, a one C on shots, and then have also stayed and our last one was a 6.0 on Omnipod five, so I'm really, really trying to get down in the fence, even if it's just a 5.9 I want to break that barrier. So we go next week, and I'm hoping that that maybe will be in the fives.
Scott Benner 1:04:19
Wow, good for you. First of all, good for you. That's terrific. And good for her. You know, seriously Jane being able to handle some extra shots along the way and and toughing it out like that. That's pretty cool. What What about so I'm assuming that what helped you go on on the pod five and get your settings right was that you were being neat. It's funny we talked about aggressive like it seems like that's excessive but it's not really aggressive sometimes. Just means you know I mean if if everybody's going to be okay with like a seven and a half a one C and you start using enough insulin to get a six a one C are you being aggressive or using the proper amount of insulin you don't I mean so So you found a way to to use the proper amount of insulin use it where it needs to be. Right? So then when you translate that total daily insulin to Omnipod, five, you had good success with it. Like, pretty quickly, it sounds like,
Bethany 1:05:16
yes, the thing that was the hardest for me to figure out and I'm still tweaking with it, as you know, Jane's body, she's so tiny, even at six. And so different locations on her body are a lot more sensitive to insulin than others. So when when she was on the dash, you know, I had different Basal programs. And so if we put it on her leg, she had more basil, if we put it on her stomach, she had a significant less amount of basil, because her stomach super sensitive. But you can't do that with Omni pod. And with that with a five, you can't Yeah, and so when it's an automated mode, at least, and so I was finding like, Okay, if her pod has been on her leg for the past, you know, two or three pods alternating between spots on her legs, and her daily insulin is like 18 units, she's going to need significantly less when I now have to move it on her body and move it to her arm or to her stomach. And so we would experience a lot of lows. And then in the reverse, if it had been on her stomach and then moving it to her leg, we would experience a lot a lot of highs for that, that transitional pod. So I figured out to do a couple of different things, I changed her insulin sensitivity factor pretty drastically depending on where it is on her body. And then I also change actually change her goal number, you know, I hear a lot of people in the in the diabetes community, especially people that are looping actually built loop in between as they go dash and getting approved for Omnipod. Five, and was planning on looping. But then we got approved for Omnipod. Five, and it's just, it's just less work. I mean, it just is so but do you hear a lot of people in that community I'm in the you know, the looping Facebook groups and everything too. And they all kind of not shame Omnipod five, but are a little disappointed that the lowest setting you can put it in like the goal is 110. But I will say we have found a lot of stability below 110 on the Omnipod five, and there are times when like today, I had to change her pod last night and before she went to school today, I changed her goal to actually be 130 instead of 110. Because I moved it just like I talked about last night it was on her leg and then I had to move it to her stomach. I knew she was going to be more sensitive. I didn't want her school to be having did it. She's in kindergarten this year. I didn't want them to have to be dealing with her going low. So I changed it to 130. And she's just cruising real steady. You know, she's well, she just ate snacks. So she's going up a little bit, but it works really well. She does she does not go low very often. And even though the goal that I have for her right now is win 30 She stays closer to 100 By doing that, so depending on where it is and what her ratios are, and everything but
Scott Benner 1:08:10
Cory talked about that in those Omnipod five episodes, I did write that it's just because it's a target doesn't mean that's where your blood sugar is gonna be.
Bethany 1:08:17
Yes, yes. But I think that's, you know, can can be misleading. When you don't hear somebody say that specifically like, oh, well, it's gonna keep me at 130 the whole time? No, it doesn't. It doesn't even keep you at 110 The whole time when we, you know if I kept it at 110 on her stomach, right after it had learned, you know, because the algorithm learns from the previous pod if the previous pod had been on her leg, and I said, Okay, keep her at 110 on her stomach, it's going to keep her at probably at which, you know, the nurse, she's got active insulin, she's running around at recess, whatever. That's, that's not where I wonder I wonder a little higher than that at school. So just had to kind of tweak and learn about it, but you figured
Scott Benner 1:08:58
out a lot for yourself. Yeah, it was excellent. Yeah. Well, we had last night. So I get in bed. I'm like, I'm going I said, I made a general announcement as I walked through the house. Nobody cares. Because everybody's sick. I'm like, I'm going to bed. I can't do this anymore. I'm sorry. I texted Arden Arden's looked like she had eaten something like at 10 o'clock at night. And so I texted her, I was like, listen, like, she was like, she had dinner, she rose up to like, 150 and then ate again. And I don't know, I'm like, I don't know what shade I don't care. I'm like, but you gotta crush this number because I'm going to sleep. And I don't want to be involved in this like, Oh, bother me. Yeah, you take care of this. So I'm now I'm laying in bed, alternating between freezing and sweating. And I'm like, I can't sleep and her blood sugar. It looks like Lupe is making these aggressive boluses but I'm like these are too aggressive to be loop like she's What is she doing? So she's busy doing homework and trying to like she just sees her blood sugar going up and she's not completely Have you focused on so she's making these boluses. And finally, I texted on my garden. Listen, I know you're doing this on your own, but you're, you're making a mistake here and it's gonna get worse. I'm like, your bolusing. And the algorithm sees your Bolus as too much insulin. So it's taking your basil away. All right, your problem is, is that your carb count for your last meal wasn't big enough. Like so it believes there's 20 carbs in there, it believes it's giving you it's given you the insulin for the 20 carbs already. And any extra you put in despite the number that your blood sugar is, it thinks that's gonna make you low. So here's what you need to do. You know, and I gave her three options because I personally thought I was gonna pass out. And I forgot what I said to her. I said, you can do an override, you could do fake carbs. You could like I gave her these three different options to do. And I don't know which one she did. But the next time I open my eyes and look, her blood sugar was just going by now she had taken away so much basil, she's 220 Jumping up. So I'm like texting her. It's late at night. I don't know what schedule she's on. I can't freakin figure it out. Like, you know, that's like one o'clock. And I'm like, are you awake? And she goes, No. And I was like you have to do so I'm like, forget what you think, do this right now. And I told her to set an override for like 180% Make her targets like 85 and Bolus two units. And she sets the override and falls asleep again. So I wait like a half an hour. I'm like, why is this freaking I did I know this works. Like I know. I'm right. You know, right. I'm gonna cut down on the guy from the podcast like I did. I did the right thing. And so I look back. I see she doesn't make the Bolus. So I felt bad. I woke her up at like three in the morning. And I was like, I need you to Bolus two units. And she goes that I don't think I need two units. And I said, well, a you're asleep and be your blood sugar's 240. So Bolus. And so she did. And it came down the way I expected it to would have happened in our sooner if you know, she wouldn't have fallen asleep in the middle of it. But she's been super stable for the last almost six hours or so. So, and Oh, hold on a second. She's Oh, this is so interesting. Arden is texting me now. She is going to pick up her insulin for the very first time in her life. Oh. In your car? Yeah, she doesn't have a car. Oh, sure. I, you know, I don't know what you think's going on over here. But you got that kind of money. Send that a car to, to, I guess. College? Yeah. I'm supposed to say where does she Where did she joke about going? Oh, yeah. She's like, Oh, she said, Chicago. I'm going I'm going to school in Chicago dad tell people that and I was like, okay. All right, hold on. I have to, I'm searching an email for her Endo. And because I know the addresses in there, and I'm sending it to her now.
Alright, so I sent her the address. So Arden is going to pick up her insulin order for the very first time in her life because it's always come to us in the mail, actually. And I said, Okay, well, Bethany, first of all, I, I'm going to be bringing this bell a lot this year, I sent out into school with enough insulin to get her through 10 weeks. Oh, good. The food at school is so I almost cursed the food at schools so terrible. That she texted me like a week ago. And she goes, I'm not going to have enough insulin to get home. And I'm like, How is that possible? And I started looking at everything. And I'm like, okay, alright, I'll know I'll take care of it. So I send an email to the Endo. And she goes, Arden hasn't been here in a year. I can't write you a prescription. And I was like, whoa, wait a minute. I'm like, Arden hasn't been there and a year. That's not right. We go religiously to the endocrinologist so much so that when we leave artigos Why don't we come here so so so I started thinking about it. And I realized that we've been working so hard on Arden's digestive issues over the last year, and her got about hormonal stuff and everything. I didn't take her to the endocrinologist. I blame COVID being serious, right, you know, for putting us on this like, because, you know, you go to the Endo, and at the end of it, you walk out you hand over your paperwork, and they go when do you want to come back and you set up another appointment? Right, but when you get off a zoom with your Endo, they don't go make an appointment. And I was like, Oh, fair enough. So I'm like, listen, I promise we didn't do this on purpose. I'll make an appointment right now if you send her insulin, and she's like, okay, middle of of October, I couldn't get an appointment till January 3. Oh my gosh, you know, and I felt like I was signing up for my own podcast. Yeah. So so far in the future. But he has that interesting. Like, you know, in the time of this podcast, it used to be like, Hey, Dad, I'm at lunch. Now I'm going to gym and now she's like, I have to go pick up my insulin at college. Yeah, must feel like people who listened must feel like, I don't know. Must be interesting for them to hear somebody get older like that. Anyway, all right. I'm sorry. We were talking about Omnipod. Five and algorithms and everything. Yeah. So you're enjoying on the pod five.
Bethany 1:15:40
I am very much getting more sleep. And I've gotten it a very long time, which is so nice.
Scott Benner 1:15:45
Oh, that's. Tell me about that. So how long have you been doing on the pod five? And how was your life changed with the sleeping?
Bethany 1:15:52
Um, let's see. She started the end of June. So five ish months now going on five here. And it's been great. I mean, obviously, we still have days that are not good. We still have days that, you know, unforeseen other circumstances. She goes through a growth spurt or I mean, she just the past, probably like a week ago, I guess she probably had whatever I have. Now. I got it from her. But she overall is my healthiest child like she does not show symptoms when she's sick. So like the poor child when she was a baby. She had strep throat. She wasn't lady she was toddler. She had strep throat. And I didn't know until she broke out and a rash all over her entire body. And I took her to the doctor. And they were like, Yeah, this is scarlet fever like that. Didn't that die? You're like hundreds of years ago.
Scott Benner 1:16:47
CW show I watched a bunch of young kids.
Bethany 1:16:51
Yeah, I was like What in the world? They were like she it starts with strep throat. If it goes untreated, it turns into this. And I was like, she was acting completely normal. So she's always been, she's such a tough little girl. And so, you know, I won't know that she's actually sick, except for the fact that she's all of a sudden eating tons and tons more insulin, which then that also can kind of throw off the next pod algorithm if she all of a sudden kicks it and it's fine. But we're figuring that out. But But yes, I mean, for the most part, unless it's like that where she's having a growth spurt or is sick every once in a while, we'll have to wake up in the middle of the night and go in and give her an actual Bolus instead of just letting the algorithm take care of it. And it will even if I left it, it would bring her down. I just don't want her staying high, you know, for several hours for it to bring her down, when she's fighting something like that. But for the most part, I've been able to sleep through the night, which has literally been life changing. So
Scott Benner 1:17:50
good. Yeah, I think it's a huge piece of all this, and we don't pay enough attention to it. I think it's one of those slippery slope things, where at first you're like, I'm not sleeping as much. And then it's like, I'm getting tired all the time. And then then eventually you realize this is never gonna stop. And until you start making those stupid jokes, like, oh, I don't need that much sleep. Like I'm okay. And then before you know it, you're decimated. And you don't realize it.
Bethany 1:18:16
Yes, yes. And you know, before, when we were still doing especially, we were still doing NDI. I mean, I just remember telling my husband like, I don't think I'm ever going to sleep again in my life. And I'm not going to be okay, if I can't get more sleep from this. But it's been it's been so so nice.
Scott Benner 1:18:34
Good. I'm glad. That's wonderful. And, you know, hormonal impacts will get, I'm interested, like, as she gets older, I'm interested to see how Omnipod five helps. Where, where it needs help, you know what I mean? Like that kind of stuff. They all do. Like I mean, Arden's obviously last night needed help, and she's looping. And that thing set up about as aggressively as it can be, you know, and oh, my gosh, tandem bike control, like you same issues. It's just not a perfect system. It's a great system. It's amazing. You have to learn how to use it. Like I, there's times when I thought and I still believe that the introduction of these algorithms to people is going to be I'm just gonna say fraught with but but it's going to encompass years of people learning how to use algorithms, right? And that's going to have to permeate the space. So that people understand, like what I talked about with Arden, like you can't just Bolus while the things in auto mode because it thinks that that's extra insulin. I know, you know, it's not, it doesn't know it's dumb. You know, it's, it's following settings. So, if people will learn and then the word spreads, and that's how, you know how you educate a group of people. So cool, Bethany. If there's nothing else, I'm gonna go pass out. Okay. Well, I did
Bethany 1:19:59
want Just tell you, thank you. Thank you for the podcast. And thank you to you posted, maybe like a week or so ago, a 24 hour graph of art. And I've heard Dexcom and she's been high the majority of the time, and you talked about a lot of the reasons why she was high. But for some reason, that sounds terrible, maybe. But that was so comforting to me to see because, you know, you listen to the podcast and you're so great about managing it. And Arden you know, you always talk about Arden's great agencies and everything and, and I am kind of a perfectionist, I guess to things and I tried to strive for better or better, better, like, let's get it in the fives, you know, and, and I showed that to my husband, and I was like, see even even Arden has bad days. And he was like, of course she does. Everyone does. You have the same a one Z? Well, not me. But Jane has the same a Wednesday that Arden has had for probably a while like you're doing just as good as he is not not bragging on myself, but just the realization of like that. Arden does have a great one agency, but that's not without some highs, you know? So just just realizing that it's okay, if we do have spikes or if we have a sickness and James hanging out high. What matters is that we go and we take care of it. We don't let her stay there for forever. So that but you posting that was just really encouraging. As weird as that sounds. So
Scott Benner 1:21:21
it was a very popular post on the Facebook page. I know. Yeah. And the sentiment rang through just like you said, like people were oddly thrilled to see Arden's blood sugar high. Sorry. And, and I, I mean, I can't make you understand, like, I can't make this podcast and every day, say, Well, don't anyone think that this means Arden's blood sugar is always at seven or something. Right? Right. Yeah. So you're, you're it's conversational. And, and so it can't be said constantly, but I always assume it's just understood. Like she eats a variety of carbs. She's got, you know, hormonal impacts, she, you know, struggled with hormone problems. Like she's, you know, she's at college. Like, I don't know what, like, I get it. Like, I understand why people look and go, Oh, I thought it was perfect all the time. But yeah, I have no trouble sharing that. You know what I mean? Like, it's just, it's what it is. So, I mean,
Bethany 1:22:18
yeah, nice, nice to know that, that, you know, we're all in it. And everybody has some highs, and that's okay.
Scott Benner 1:22:25
So well, if my daughter's paying makes you happy, then by all means.
Bethany 1:22:29
I didn't mean it that way. But truly, thank you so much for the work that you do on the podcast. And, you know, I learned so much in those early days. And I am convinced that that James helped is significantly better because of the knowledge that I learned from your podcast. So
Scott Benner 1:22:44
Oh, that's wonderful. And I appreciate you saying that so much. Thank you. Me, Scott. Chi Jane.
Bethany 1:22:51
Yeah, now go take a nap. Yeah, no, please.
Scott Benner 1:22:54
I might just pass out on the floor when I turn around. I'm holding it together. I think admirably Yes. But if I talk too long, my chest is like we're gonna cough. And I'm like holding it in.
Bethany 1:23:07
Yeah. And if you hold back a cough and you basically die, so So what happens? Well, you know, have you ever done that before? It's usually like, in the middle of something that you have to be incredibly quiet in and you like, try to hold down a cough and then it becomes like a massive coughing attack and you can't control yourself at all. I have
Scott Benner 1:23:25
a psychological for people. Really, I saw Yo Yo Ma once and the man in front of me. Because there's breaks there were breaks in between the the pieces that they were playing. And during the playing the whole time the guy in front of me right? The playing stops. There's no reason we have to be quiet for the entire break. The man's silent. The bell goes off the lights them we're gonna come back on. I'm like, Oh my God. You're a lunatic. Like like so to this person. It was it was the anxiety. I think. You know what I mean? Like,
Bethany 1:24:10
the thing happened to me at the last funeral I went to I was trying not to like not to make a tiny little cough, you know, just like keep it in. And then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, my gosh, I've literally am dying coughing so hard. I had to leave and go to the reception area and get something to drink because yeah, it was.
Scott Benner 1:24:32
Was it at least somebody in your husband side of the family. She didn't
Bethany 1:24:35
know it was one of my friends that she didn't know it was fine. She's not at my friend's funeral. My friend's father's funeral. So
Scott Benner 1:24:43
one of my because you're in your early 30s. I call we're being very blase about a woman in her early 30s. And oh, see one of your friends fathers. Yeah, you were there for moral support, or did you know him?
Bethany 1:24:56
No, I'd never met him just moral support. So When he told me years and years ago that you go to funerals for the living, not for the dead, and that's always stuck with me.
Scott Benner 1:25:06
Oh, you're lovely. You went to your friend's father's funeral and you had never met him? Yes. Wow, you're a nicer person. I just realized that while you were talking your gums Oh my god. Can you imagine if one day this is pulled out of an archive? This is like the last time I recorded. I hope I did a good job. This is great. Good. Oh, I didn't know you're gonna say something nice about me. All right, I would have I wouldn't have talked to you. Thank you very much. I really do appreciate this
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