#1616 Somebody’s Always Peeing - Part 2
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Laura, 55, diagnosed with type 1 in March 2024 after severe illness, is now honeymooning on a GLP and hasn’t needed insulin since October. Part 2 of 2.
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Scott Benner 0:00
Here we are back together again, friends for another episode of The Juicebox podcast.
Hey everybody. This is part two of a two part episode. So this was a longer conversation, and we split it into two parts. If you have not heard part one with Monica, you gotta go find it. It should be the episode right before this in your podcast player, I am here to tell you about juice cruise. 2026 we will be departing from Miami on June 21 2026 for a seven night trip, going to the Caribbean. That's right, we're going to leave Miami and then stop at Coco k in the Bahamas. After that, it's on to St Kitts, St Thomas and a beautiful cruise through the Virgin Islands. The first juice Cruise was awesome. The second one's going to be bigger, better and bolder. This is your opportunity to relax while making lifelong friends who have type one diabetes, expand your community and your knowledge on juice cruise 2026 learn more right now at Juicebox podcast.com/juice. Cruise at that link, you'll also find photographs from the first cruise. Nothing you hear on the Juicebox podcast should be considered advice medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your healthcare plan.
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Speaker 1 2:41
Yeah, I don't think my husband has ever heard that one. That's very interesting. That just
Scott Benner 2:46
happens, Monica, like you hear your mom and dad say something one too many times, like, I don't want to be connected to this anymore, and you don't want that to be diabetes, exactly. It's funny because you listen to adults, come on here in their late 20s, who grew up through high school with type one and went off to college, and they tell you, I wish my parents were more involved. I wish when I pushed back, that my parents wouldn't have given up. But that's hindsight. If you could go back and ask the 17 year old them, they'd say, my mom's an idiot, my dad's an adult. They don't know what they're talking about. They're bugging me. Everything's hindsight. When you hear somebody say something thoughtful, it's almost always in hindsight. So you know, the problem is, you have to deal now and in now with the person you're speaking to, and that's why I think it's always important to keep a really long view of what you're doing, like you're not trying to win the day. You're trying to make sure that in the future, you've raised a person who wants willingly to take care of themselves.
Speaker 1 3:46
That's all right. And I think that that that's really a complicated thing that move, you know, moves to a bigger point is the worrying too much about the future or obsessing too much about the past. That's where you know, you can be depressed about what you didn't do, and you could be anxious about what might happen. And they say mindfulness, you gotta, gotta concentrate on the current moment. But to count, you know, counteracting that just as you're saying, it is the current moment. But what are these current moments leading up to how is this going to play out in the future? You know what you know? What are the possible ramifications? You know, both health wise and relationship wise. So I think it's an interesting and complicated place to be, because you do need to be tactical, but then also know what I'm doing now. I need to get comfortable with the fact that the end goal is independent adult, and this is a long game.
Scott Benner 4:44
Yeah, no, I understand. I mean, honestly, the way you talked about what you enjoyed, about the nutrition, conversations about like, hey, we need to think more about the building blocks that we're putting in, this is really the same thing, right, right. You're putting in information you don't need to see. I. Mean, honestly, this works well, with my example about the vitamin D, like, you take vitamin D today, you don't wake up tomorrow and go, ha, I did it. I'm Superman, right? But you do have better outcomes over years and years and years. And the same thing goes, I think, with this stuff, like, it's not as easy just to turn to your kid and go, you have to Pre-Bolus because you have to. And now just start doing it. And because that's not how it's going to work. But if you get the idea in there, and you build it up a little bit, you add more and more building blocks of ideas and thoughts without pushing somebody away, right like so that's a very slow layering, because if you dump too much on them at once, most people are going to rebel. They're going to be some people who are rule followers or want to, you know, they're pleasers, maybe, and you'll get them to just do it, but most people are gonna just go like, eh, don't tell me what to do, and then you waste it so it's very slow. You're almost dropping seeds, you know what I mean, just hoping that they take root and sprout, and if they don't, you throw some more down. I'm telling you, I think the vibe here is, if you're raising kids in today's society, you have up until their mid 20s to impact them, right? And then after that, if you're lucky, you've got an adult on your hands who, if they have questions, will actually come back and ask you, or will go find out on their own. And if you're unlucky, you're gonna end up with somebody who's not gonna take care of themselves. But I don't know that just beating them over the head is the way to that, especially when it's between a parent a child. Now, have I heard? Listen, I'm against people trying to scare you into taking care of yourself, but I'd also be lying if I didn't tell you that people have come on this podcast and talked about being in dire health situations for many years, and that somebody, usually a doctor scared them straight, and it actually worked on them. Now I don't mean that you should try that on a 12 year old. There is a world where you might do everything right or do everything wrong, and your kid ends up 35 years old with an 11 a, 1c, and one day, some doctor says to him, are you interested in seeing for the rest of your life? And it gets to them, my brother has type two diabetes. It's in a much different situation than before, and he related that conversation to me. Our brother's a bright guy, thoughtfully, cares about himself all that stuff, but it was a doctor who said to him, like, you want to be able to, like, keep your legs and your feet and everything and like, he scared the out of him, and that made my brother call me and go, Hey, what am I not doing I should be doing exactly.
Speaker 1 7:21
Yeah. What are the things that you may have mentioned to me before that you know that now they're willing to listen and
Scott Benner 7:28
you have that podcast. What is it? You tell people on that thing?
Speaker 1 7:31
What is it? Yeah, what is that? Did you have that series for type two
Scott Benner 7:36
email that over to me please? Yeah.
Speaker 1 7:38
What's that? It's the, it's the when I had this is again, bigger picture. You know, Mel Robbins has her let them theory book and all of that. Is it that we look and we think we want to help people, but we can't. You know, you can't control someone else, nor get them to change. A person only changes when they want to change. So as much as we want to give people information about diabetes, about nutrition, all of that, right, helping people that want to be helped. That's the important part. If that's
Scott Benner 8:08
not how it worked, I could just run downstairs, grab Arden by the shoulders and start yelling tag lines to her from the podcast. She'd be okay in an hour and a half. Exactly, exactly. I mean, imagine this like I know by the way, Monica, let me say while people are listening. You're a big supporter of what I do. I really appreciate it. Thank you, and it means a lot to me. And at the same time, like, you'll know this when I tell you, like, if every one of the 67,000 Facebook member group members saw a post from somebody who was like, oh my god, I listened to blah, blah, blah, and it saved my life, which happens every day, like, you know, multiple times a day, somebody is going to write a post to me to say, hey, I really appreciate what you're doing, what you did. Here's the thing I heard that really helped me. And they'll go to the TR you can see they're trying to help other people. They go to the trouble of laying out where they were, what they did, what helped them, what they think might help somebody else. If it was that easy, that would take one of those posts, all of those people would see it and go, Oh, you know what? I can listen to 20 hours of a podcast to figure that out. But that doesn't happen. It's a daily slog of waking up, scanning that group and looking for the people who, on that day, decided I have had enough, I got to figure this out, and then being, being there to meet them with information that will
Speaker 1 9:24
help them, right? And that is something that I struggle with in in this space, and then also in others. You know, other areas of my life, when you are you maybe repeatedly are suggesting things to someone, and you realize they aren't ready to change. They don't, you know they, they, they, it's the lead the horse to water, and there they are standing next to the water. And we, you and I say water a little differently, but I didn't mean to be repeating water on purpose. It's trying to remind yourself that there are those people that want to be helped, and we can give them that information because. Yeah, I get really frustrated with the face, with the Facebook group, with people saying, Yeah, I don't. I don't have time for that. I don't, you know, that's not the way that I can learn. Like, I said I had never listened to a podcast before. I don't. I can't, for the life of me, think of who it was that had suggested this. I can't. I tried tracking down, like, was it the CDE? Somebody said Juicebox podcast, and I can't figure out who it was. You know, who it was. And I wanted to before coming on here, but I didn't figure it out. However, first podcast that I listened to, I don't like YouTube videos. I'm a reader. I've always been a reader. I don't love Facebook, you know, you know, reading on there. I want credible sources of information. First podcast that I listen to, I do listen to others now, you know, I was listening to pretty early on the episode that you did that was the 411 that was the equivalent, then, of Isabel's lists and things. And it was you talking through listen to this one, this one, this one. And I did the, you know, the Netflix binge type of, type of thing in a podcast way, and went through those episodes and then just continued to want to listen to more of that, even though I hadn't listened to a podcast. And I would tell you, I listen, you know, I learn much better from reading than I do from listening, but all of that, it was a different way of me taking in the information, but it was so helpful, and it turned me into a podcast listener, which I hadn't expected, because I didn't think that that was something that I would enjoy. Yeah,
Scott Benner 11:34
I'm glad, I'm glad you found it, and I'm glad you found other stuff that you enjoy, too. I think it's a great way to experience other people's ideas almost passively. You don't need to be sitting staring at it to hear it. I think it's awesome. I'm glad it found you and that it was helpful. You talked me, by the way, into making another kind of explainer about why you'd want to listen to certain series. Like, I can get lost sometimes and just think, like, I've said that already. I don't need to say it again. But I think that there are always new people every day showing up in the group takes on probably 100 new people a day at this point. So it's always incumbent upon me to to find those people and let them know where they can begin.
Speaker 1 12:13
True. True. I do. I do agree with what some people have said too, when we've had, had had people discussing it back and forth on the Facebook page is that there do seem to be people that are, they really are into Facebook, and they're not. They're like, No, you're not going to get me listening to a podcast. I just want and that's I think that that's hard. I think it's frustrating. It's really frustrating that they'd rather go back and forth with posts, and there's going to be a lot of noise. They might say, okay, you know, I will go to the link that Nico just posted about that episode, but I can understand that sometimes, with the overwhelm, they think podcast I, you know, now I have to download something and listen to something again. That's it is. It's a tricky thing because I see so many people that do want help, but then they say, Yeah, I can't do that.
Scott Benner 13:01
I'm I would also tell you that I think that my data tells me that they do eventually make it. It just takes some people longer than others to dive in, and so they do eventually get back to it. I've had people send me emails. They just hate me, you know? Yeah, I'll get another email from them six months later and they'll just say, Hey, I'm really sorry about that last email I sent, but I did find my way to that information now, and really has helped me, and I appreciate it. And, you know, sorry again for, you know, calling you those names, it's okay with me. I didn't, I didn't take it to heart. Don't worry about it. The brand new twist insulin pump offers peace of mind with unmatched personalization and allows you to target a glucose level as low as 87 there are more reasons why you might be interested in checking out twist, but just in case that one got you twist.com/juicebox, that's twist with two eyes.com/juicebox. You can target glucose levels between 87 and 180 it's completely up to you. In addition to precision insulin delivery that's made possible by twist design, twist also offers you the ability to edit your carb entries even after you've bolused. This gives the twist loop algorithm the best information to make its decisions with, and the twist loop algorithm lives on the pump, so you don't have to stay next to your phone for it to do its job. Twist is now available in select areas, so if you'd like to learn more or get on the wait list, go to twist.com/juicebox. That's twist with two eyes.com/juicebox. Get on the twist wait list and be notified as soon as it's available in your area. Links in the show notes. Links at Juicebox podcast.com This episode is sponsored by tandem Diabetes Care, and today I'm going to tell you about tandems, newest pump and algorithm, the tandem mobi system with control iq plus technology features auto Bolus, which can cover missed meals. Analysis and help prevent hyperglycemia. It has a dedicated sleep activity setting and is controlled from your personal iPhone. Tandem will help you to check your benefits today through my link, tandem diabetes.com/juicebox, this is going to help you to get started with tandem, smallest pump yet that's powered by its best algorithm ever control iq plus technology helps to keep blood sugars in range by predicting glucose levels 30 minutes ahead, and it adjusts insulin accordingly. You can wear the tandem Moby in a number of ways. Wear it on body with a patch like adhesive sleeve that is sold separately. Clip it discreetly to your clothing or slip it into your pocket head now to my link, tandem, diabetes.com/juicebox, to check out your benefits and get started today.
Speaker 1 15:48
No, no, no. Well, I think it was maybe it was no, maybe a day or two ago that you were just talking about that, that on that. I mean, this is, this is something that is really surreal to me when episodes are aired and you realize what time they must have been recorded, yeah, because there was one episode. And you said, Yeah, you know, don't take a look at any of your investments. I bet you'll know what day it is when you're listening to this stuff like that that you've you realize what's, you know, what was going on. But it was a day or two ago, and you were talking about the people that hate listen and you know, they're just, you know, they come back every day. I hate this guy, but I but I can't stop listening. And how, how much you you enjoyed the fact that, despite the fact that they cannot stand you, that they they're back for more.
Scott Benner 16:31
There's a great scene in the in the Howard Stern movie, the producer from NBC comes in and he says, we have, you know, we have the listener feedback about the Howard Stern Show. And he says something like, people who love him listen for an average of 45 minutes, and people who hate him listen for an average of four hours exactly, or something. It's something like that. I don't know the exact words of it, so, you know, there's always going to be that. But there was a girl on recently. It's called modern fairy tale. The episode she said, Yes, she was really awesome, and young, in her mid 20s, had grown up through she's her third generation of type one in her family. Her grandfather had great outcomes for no good reason. Her father thought, oh, that's what you do. You don't really need to do anything. It all just works out. Except he passed very early. She was probably on her way to following her dad's footsteps. Somebody put her in onto the podcast. She starts listening to it, and then she gets, I forget why. She gets mad at me for a reason, or she decides that it's not for people who are MDI or something. She makes some leap, but she kept listening. She was hate listening. At that point, she was mad, and she was listening. And then something got said. She was out shopping, she heard me say something, and her brain went, Oh, I could do that. And then she just did it. And now, you know, a couple of years later, she's a guest on the show talking about all the awesome success she has in her life,
Speaker 1 17:52
right, right? And yep, and it was, it was that she, because I just did listen to it. And I know that you listen to things before you post them sometimes too. But I it was, it was that she said, This doesn't relate to me. It's, it's, it's MDI. And she was listening anyway. But she was, she, you know, described as kind of bitter that this all this stuff, and it's about pumps. And then she was like, wait a minute, this does apply. This does this does work.
Scott Benner 18:16
I tell people all the time, MDI and pumping are exactly the same. You can't change your basal. You know, you have to shoot more if you want a Bolus more, and you can't split a Bolus. But that's the extent of the difference between MDI and pumping. Now, you know algorithms are different, obviously, but yeah, if you can do it with insulin, you can mimic it with MDI,
Speaker 1 18:37
right? We did really well on with, with MDI, and then with, and then with that, with MDI, dash, Omnipod, five. We haven't. We've been steady with our good results that whole time. What's been different is the ways that I put in effort, and what you know, what you know, what I'm looking at, and the more that we've learned about the inputs, meaning the combination of the inputs of the food and then the activity related to it. I agree with you so much that it's it's time, you know, it's timing and amount of the insulin, and then also it's taking a look at the type of foods that you're eating and how to strategize for how that is going to be processed by your boy, by your body, or your type
Scott Benner 19:23
ones body. I don't know. Have you ever seen the movie Moneyball? Are you a baseball fan? You know
Speaker 1 19:28
what my my husband just was talking about this. This is a brad the Brad
Scott Benner 19:33
Pitt movie. Brad Pitt, yeah, there's an awesome scene in Moneyball where they decide to go get this beat up catcher and have him play first base, the general manager, and one of the one of the coaches, goes, sits down in his living room, and he says, hey, you know, we'd like to have you come out and play for the team. He goes, You know, I don't think I can really throw the ball anymore from, you know, from home to second. He goes, That doesn't matter. You're not playing catcher for me. You're going to play first base. And he says, I've never played. At first base, and the general manager goes, doesn't matter. It's incredibly easy. We'll teach you. And he looks at the coach, he goes, tell him wash. And the coach goes, it's incredibly difficult. And so, like, I think that about diabetes a little bit, it is just timing an amount, right? And once you understand all of it and have the tools, it is pretty easy. And but if you don't have those things, it is incredibly difficult. I think that's where the podcast helps people, not differently than the building blocks. Idea about nutrition or the building blocks. Idea about teaching somebody something, you slowly hear things, they build up over time, and then one day, you just have the full force of having taken your vitamin D every day and you get the benefit of it, you don't even know what's happening to you. You just have that benefit now. And I think that's what listening does. It gives you tools and ideas about insulin and living with diabetes and a lot more. Not that humbly, I would say, I think there's more to the podcast and all that. And then one day, you'll just have better outcomes. You might not even know why they're happening. You just suddenly have built up those building blocks almost unknowingly, and now you have more information in your head when it comes time to make a decision. Contour, next.com/juicebox that's the link you'll use to find out more about the contour. Next Gen blood glucose meter. When you get there, there's a little bit at the top you can click right on blood glucose monitoring. I'll do it with you. Go to meters, click on any of the meters, I'll click on the Next Gen, and you're going to get more information. It's easy to use and highly accurate. Smart light provides a simple understanding of your blood glucose levels. And of course, with Second Chance sampling technology, you can save money with fewer wasted test strips, as if all that wasn't enough, the contour next gen also has a compatible app for an easy way to share and see your blood glucose results. Contour next.com/juicebox and if you scroll down at that link, you're going to see things like a Buy Now button. You could register your meter after you purchase it. Or what is this? Download a coupon. Oh, receive a free contour next gen blood glucose meter. Do tell contour next.com/juicebox head over there. Now get the same accurate and reliable meter that we use.
Speaker 1 22:18
That's precisely one of, one of the points that I, that I did, did want to make, is, is that Timothy and I, again, before, you know, before different technologies even. But I wrote down here, found the podcast in January 2021, so we were diagnosed in October of 2020, so I did go, you know, I did, I did go for a while without the podcast, and I had figured out a lot of these things. So one could say, well, why are you listening almost daily to diabetes podcast? And why are you going through all of this? It is that the repetition of the of the ideas, finding out, there's always more to learn, there's all there's always interesting things to you know, to find out about ways that people deal with things. Even if you think you know a lot, there's so much more. And honestly, it's the conversations with such interesting people about all kinds of things. It's kind of little like Seinfeld. Sometimes the show is the show about nothing, you know. And that's not insulting you in any way, you know. It's just that it's entered, it is entertaining. And there was always something that I take away from someone and and their life story. And, you know, everybody comes on and says, you know, I don't have anything to say. And of of course, they do. And there's, there was always something that you can relate to, or that you know someone that could relate to. And again, lot of it is not about diabetes, and I know that that's probably going to have more people think, well, I don't have time for that stuff. But in the lessons that that I found, it's about attitude, it's about your approach to things. It's about how to deal with other people, about relationships. There are so many things that are woven through the conversation conversations that it really is about a lot more than diabetes. My husband calls it diabetes radio, and I keep talking to him about the fact that it's really not just about diabetes, because it isn't he would probably like it. I think he would
Scott Benner 24:27
just a good podcast, not like about diabetes. And I think that that's why it, it succeeds where it is, because where other, you know, offerings maybe don't get so wide. There is an entertainment factor to it. It isn't cold and calculated. It isn't buttoned up and stuffy, and yet, you know, the things you hear will definitely help you. And I couldn't agree with you more. Like I feel like I've said this a couple of times, but I'm happy to say it again. When I was a kid in the 90s, I listened to Howard Stern interview a porn star. Yeah, and he never asked her about being in porn one time, right? And she was so interesting, and her life was so interesting, and her ideas and her thoughts and her fears and everything she talked about, I just was ensorcelled by like, I really was just, I don't know, riveted by her conversation, and then I look back on it, I wish I knew who he was talking to, because I'd go listen to it again if I could. But you look back on it, and you can hear him expertly picking through her life, right? And you don't realize it's happening while it's happening, and she doesn't realize it's happening while it's happening, and she doesn't know how much she's relating to other people. I think I make a conversational podcast that happens to only talk to people who have diabetes or a kid with diabetes,
Unknown Speaker 25:49
right? And I agree, I agree,
Scott Benner 25:51
yeah, but I could easily get 10 people on here who don't have the thing to do with diabetes. And I guarantee you, I could interview them, talk to them about life, and you wouldn't unsubscribe. You'd be like, Oh, those were good conversations.
Speaker 1 26:06
That's absolutely what I'm saying. And, and then with the different series that you had, you've had, I mean, there's the thyroid series and, you know, and then now the nutrition series, and that's, that's kind of proving that too, is, is that, yes, these things can relate to people with diabetes, and are important however they you know this, you know, this is general information. This is a lot, you know, this is a lot of stuff that's applicable. A lot of this stuff, like with the talking about about social media and the way people respond, and all of that. It's, you know, it is, it is absolutely true. And it's, you know, it's important information for people to think about is, is that the, you know, when we talk about how people just want to be on a side, and then you, when you look at, when you when you've talked about the comparing how with the chameleon Facebook group and your Facebook group, and you look and you think, you know, we're all so different, and we're dealing with different things And and, no, no,
Scott Benner 27:00
it's all exactly the same. Exactly. There aren't people with diabetes on Facebook who are unpleasant. There are people who are unpleasant. Some of them are on Facebook. Some of them are talking about chameleons and some of them are talking about diabetes, like the arguments and the hot takes and the perspectives, they're all exactly the same. From topic to topic to topic. It doesn't make any it doesn't make any difference, right, right? A woman put a post up the other day. I wish I remembered her name, and she was just thanking me for an episode that went up last week called, I think it's called sorry a or something like that. And she goes on to say, like, there are so many valuable life lessons in this conversation, yes, like, Forget diabetes, they're in there. I'm touched by that, like I and I know it's me talking about me. So some people will think it sounds distasteful to talk about, but I mean what? I don't know what else I'm supposed to do when I wrote my book about being a stay at home dad. Again, I don't know how good of a writer I am, or how good of a book that is, or anything else, but I can tell you that when it was over, the publisher came to me and said, I don't think I could have paid a professional writer to do the job you just did. That entire transcript that you gave us is full of common sense, life lessons explained simply. She goes, it's a roadmap for living a better life. I know people usually brand that or they call it stuff, and then they, you know, they try to sell it to you. It's funny. I just had a long conversation this morning with a contemporary of mine, and where we were just talking about the difficulties of getting around the platforms and how they want creators to pay money to for their stuff to be seen. It's how Facebook set up. It's how it's how they're all set up right now. Like, if you're not a creator, you don't know this, but when I make a post, the next screen that pops up in front of me asks me to pay you. They pay pay them so that people will say it, ah. And so I don't do that, but then they limit who sees your stuff that's on all of the platforms. Facebook does it, Instagram does it, Tiktok does it, YouTube doesn't. But I don't put video up. I only like, I'm only like, basically like, you know, repurposing my audio on YouTube, which is not how people listen to podcasts. It's not really important, right? But no, yeah, I'll make a post on Facebook, and then it will ask me how much I want to spend to make sure people see it. And then it will tell me, if I spend this much, it'll show it to this many people, and if I shouldn't that much, it'll show it to this many people. So all the stuff you're being delivered on Facebook, if you're seeing it, you either really love that thing and you are interacting with it constantly, or you're somebody is paying to shove it in your face, right? So we were talking about that, and during that conversation, she said to me, like, Hey, you could probably make maybe do one of your episodes a week in video and put it on YouTube, maybe people would be interested in that. And I was like, Well, it's a lot of money and editing and time, and I don't know, I'd have to find people who were willing to be videoed while we were doing it. Like, I don't know if I could really make it all happen. I already have a pretty significant cost paying my editor for audio and stuff like that. And so we were talking all through that, and she said, Well, you. Probably, you know, if it got popular, you'd make money on YouTube. And I stopped her, and I was like, I don't really care about that. Yeah. And she's like, well, you know, you got to make money. I said, I make money. I'm okay. Like, I pay my bills, I save money, I'm good. My concern is that, I know you don't like me saying this, but my concern is that I'm 53 I don't, I don't like you saying that. I've already kept this thing going for 11 years, right? I mean, the honest truth is, like, if, if I made a podcast for 20 years, that would be pretty uncommon, like a popular podcast for that. So let's say I can accomplish that. Let's say I can make this for nine more seasons till I'm 62, years old. Oh,
Unknown Speaker 30:35
don't say that. I need to hear that out
Scott Benner 30:37
loud. Okay, right, right. So, like, let's say I can, I can accomplish that. I have a finite number of people I can help, and it's not grandiose, and I don't have a god complex. But trust me, I said to her, if you were me, if I sent every note that I receive every day to you every time I get one, if I just emailed it to your text it I said you'd be crying by the end of the day, and that happens to me all day long. 24/7, and it's a response. It now it feels like a responsibility. The podcast feels like a public trust to me, like I just want to get it to more people, because there'll be a day where I can't get it to anybody. And if we go back to the reason I started writing that blog in 2007 the thought in my head when I started writing that blog was is very simple. I started it because I wanted people to understand type one diabetes, and I realized that they didn't. I kept it going after reading an article about a man who passed out at a train station parking lot, a commuter train station parking lot, they kicked him off the train for being drunk. He was found early morning by commuters laying face down in stones. People passed by him. They mocked him. They made fun of him for being a drunk. And one woman recognizes, I think my sister or my brother has type one diabetes, and this looks like low blood sugar, and she stops and saves this guy's life, right? And I thought, I wonder if I could write enough stuff and put it online, it'll reach a person who might find my daughter laying face down somewhere. One day, I'm gonna write this blog and see how I make myself cry. It's late in the afternoon. This isn't good, Monica, I gotta get my headshots done in a couple hours. I don't need to have red eyes. I just can't believe I said headshots in the middle of this touching story. I know me either. Nevertheless, that is what I'm doing tonight. And so, like, maybe I can write a blog that will reach a person and educate them so they can save my daughter one day. It's how I thought about it. And now, at the end of this some I'm almost 20 years into it now, right? Like, I started in 2007 right? Is 2025, and now I'm looking at the back end of my life, at least professionally, and I'm like, I don't know if I reached enough people to find that person that's going to help her. But more importantly, now, the way I think about it is, I don't know if I've put enough into the world that when she's ready to go find it, if it's going to be there, because the biggest travesty I can imagine is that the daughter of the guy making this podcast, because she's the daughter of the guy making the podcast, doesn't listen to him, and then one day, decides to go to try to find it, and can't even find it. I'm trying to find a way to keep this all alive for my daughter and for whoever else is benefits from it on the way. But hey, spoiler alert, I'm just making this podcast for my daughter. The rest of you are benefiting from it. That's awesome. I need the last thing for this podcast to do is to find Arden in a bad moment and pick her up. That's what I'm trying to do. So anyway, that's a lot of high minded bull, right there?
Speaker 2 33:41
No, but I is, what is what you're saying, that she'd go
Speaker 1 33:46
looking for it, but she'd go looking for it in in a voice other than your voice, meaning she wouldn't look for the
Scott Benner 33:51
maybe, yeah, Monica, maybe
Speaker 1 33:55
you're saying you she, you need to educate enough of us so that, though, that those of us and our descendants, obviously, because since I'm your age, I all I will also be gone. Well, it will be done. We'll be gone. But enough of the, enough of the, the listeners and the followers will have created their own entities. Like you know is, are you thinking of it that way?
Scott Benner 34:19
Because, yeah, with any luck, and I do think it's going this way, Arden will know how to take care of
Speaker 1 34:24
herself. Yeah, I think, I think you know that she already does. Yeah, yeah, no, no. I know a lot. She knows a lot, and and I know your fear is apparent, as apparent is that she's going to turn around and have all of these unanswered questions. But you know that she's again, like you said, the little, little breadcrumbs, little dribs and drabs, the little things over all the years. You know that she's got your, she's, she's got your, your philosophy, and the, you know, the way that you look at all of these things, even if she doesn't have all, you know, all of the little ninja tricks that you might,
Scott Benner 34:56
I agree, it will surprise me if Arden ever has an A one. See that's higher than six in the sixes. Like, that'll surprise me, right? So yes and no, like, but a little bit yes, my daughter's gonna get older. She's gonna age. She's gonna end up in an ER one day. She's gonna, and I'm not gonna be with her, she's gonna end up in an endocrinologist. Like, she's got a great endocrinologist now, but that lady's older, like, she she's not gonna be around forever. Like, she's gonna have to go find another endo someday. I have the really like, I don't know what to call it, I want to make sure that people understand I feel very blessed about it and grateful, but I have a really far and wide reach, and there are plenty of we talked about it today on the call I was on, there are plenty of nurse practitioners out there that sit in your room with you while you're talking to your Endo, and they hear you getting bad information, and they grab you in the hall, and they go, let me. Let me help you out. And they grab you in the hallway, and they go, Juicebox Podcast. I'm trying to seed the world with those people, not people who are mimicking what I'm saying, right? People who understand that it's timing and amount. That's who I want out in the world. People who understand that if you're tired, you might be anemic, people who understand, if your hair is falling out, that your thyroid is probably not regulated Well, like I want people to understand the things that I've come to learn they don't understand, right? Because my kids going to ask them a question one day, and I'm going to be too old to help her, right? And one of you sons of bitches better know the right answer.
Speaker 1 36:21
I have to say, I think that you, you must be feeling bad for Rob and think that he needs to be paid more, because I think that you've, you're giving him a lot of work during this episode, actually,
Scott Benner 36:32
that'll make him laugh. Okay, you're a good point. Good. We're done, Monica, is that what you're
Speaker 1 36:36
saying? It's over. No, no, no, no. But you
Scott Benner 36:40
go ahead, I'll tell you something like this. Is also another consideration. We've been talking for an hour and 20 minutes. Rob will do a great edit on it. He'll probably take 10 minutes of noise and gaps out and stuff like that. It'll go down to around 100 you know, about an hour 10. He'll put in the ads. He'll do all the good work, etc. But if it was me, I'm more of a two hour, three hour podcast person, I'd keep going with everybody, but I don't think anybody cares. Like, I don't think the people listening are looking for 15 hours worth of podcasts every week, but for my personal listening, I prefer to listen to longer podcasts, right? Yeah, and we're all down to like, now it's all one hour because of editing costs, or it's 10 minutes, because that's what YouTube wants. I just think, talk till you're done talking, and then those who like it will listen to it, and those who don't will stop. At some point. It's all right with me. The reason I put five episodes out a week is because I don't think you're gonna wanna listen to all of them. And I say to myself, imagine if I had five episodes. I think they're all good, but they're not all for you, and I only put them out on Mondays. Well, that's five weeks of a podcast where you might only see one episode you're interested in. I want to give you five days and then let you say, hey, you know what I'm going to listen to Tuesday and Friday, and maybe I'll maybe I'll check out Wednesday on the weekend. But I don't give a shit about Monday to your husband's point, it is diabetes radio, to me, because I think there should always be something new being broadcasted, in case you want to turn it on and listen to it,
Speaker 1 38:09
right? That's how, in that sense, right? And what he's thinking is, is that I'm I'm long, I'm listening to a podcast, you know? I download this and start listening, and it's discussion about dosing of insulin. 24/7, that's what he doesn't understand. He does not understand that. You know, he likes smart lists. And he, you know, I said it's it, honestly, it's a lot more like smart list than you than you would think, yeah,
Scott Benner 38:34
no, it's very, I mean, this is completely conversational in my head. I'll tell you something. This will sound, I'll sound like an asshole for a second. I don't mind see and you're paying Rob again. All right, Rob, hang in there. Rob. I was listening to smart list one day, and they were talking about something that we had kind of talked about on this podcast. And I thought, Oh, I handled this conversation better than they did. Not to say they don't have a good podcast, but I've heard them, and thought I did a better job on that. Or, like, I think mine's more conversational than this one ended up being or more open minded. Like, not pre I'm not calling out smart list. Like, I also think, by the way, if you have not watched the HBO documentary on the Smart List podcast, you're missing out because it is, if you like watching people be mean to each other who are friends. It is very, very funny. Oh,
Speaker 1 39:19
and I have to tell him he's big fans of all especially will he loves Will Arnett, he loves all of them. But
Scott Benner 39:25
you tell your husband to go on to max and watch that. It's just, I think it's six parts. It's very well done. It's hilarious. But also, you know, I mean, like I said, I grew up listening to Howard Stern like, I want to turn my radio on at six in the morning, and I don't want him to be done till I go to lunch. I want five hours of that. That's how I like listening to things. But I like hearing people talking who I'm acquainted with. I will turn talking on in the car more often than music. That's just sort of my vibe. I listen to podcasts that I don't even agree with the host on. Be like, oh, that's an interesting topic. And like, I know. Don't really agree with this person's perspective, but I'd still like to listen to this, or they have on somebody who I'm interested in, and I think, well, I don't like them, but I do want to hear what that person has to say. Like, I'm not a person who's like, I can't listen to this because I don't like that guy's politics, or I don't like what he said about this or that, or the car they drive, or, like, I don't care about anything. Like, I just want to hear what you're saying. If it makes sense to me, it makes sense to me. I think it's possible the closest thing you have to Howard Stern right now is a comedian named Tim Dylan, and his YouTube he is trying to make socially relevant content that is so biting and sarcastic that while you're listening to it, I guarantee you won't know if he's kidding or not. I think that's an interesting way to try to talk to people about the world. Wait Anyway, like I don't hear every one of his episodes, but when I see him, I'll stop and listen for a minute to see what he's doing. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1 40:49
I'll put it on as long as, as long as I'm caught up. Yeah,
Scott Benner 40:53
don't, don't. If you start listening to other stuff instead of me, I'm in trouble.
Speaker 1 40:57
Yeah? No, no, no. Subscribe and download. All of you. Thank you. Subscribe and
Scott Benner 41:01
download. Please follow in a podcast app. Set up auto downloads in your apple. I mean, if you want to help me follow an apple podcast and make sure auto downloads are on and then listen to this, listen to the show. That's the biggest way
Speaker 1 41:13
to help. Yep, nope. And that's you know that that's what we keep doing. We'll keep getting out there. Get the get the downloads. My plight. She does. I do. I do. I know pictures for the algorithm.
Scott Benner 41:25
Here's the business model. Monica, I wake up and think about how to try to help you and your son, Omnipod, Dexcom. Ever since they pay me to do that. Now they don't really. They pay me for ads. They buy the ads because you guys click on the ads, and they get a reasonable percentage of you looking seriously at their devices. That's what they want, right? So as long as I'm delivering those clicks to them, they don't care what we talk about on this podcast, right? Like this, we could get on here and talk about Spider Man movies for 50 years, if you guys were still clicking on a, you know, an ad for, you know, touch by type one, then that would all be fine. And so that's the I take their money to make the content for you, and that's so that I don't have to take your money to make the content. Because the other, the only alternative, other alternative is, is to charge you guys for the podcast. By the way, not everybody would do that. I wouldn't make a living off it, so I wouldn't be able to actually make the podcast. And a lot of people who could use the information might get priced out of it, and I don't want that either. So it's just a very simple business model. I make content people listen to. Enough of you guys click on the links, click through, and that's why they buy the ads. They're also good people in a lot of those companies, like I as an example, the circle group that I have set up is being funded by an advertiser who does not want their name on it and does not want credit for it. They just want to give me a chance to see if I can make it work for you. It's very cool. That's a very trust me. Yeah, that's awesome. There's not a lot of companies. I'll give you clarity. That group cost me about $5,000 a year to run. There is a company who just wrote a check for $5,000 and said, Here, go see if you can make something that will help people with diabetes with this. They don't want credit, they don't want ads, they don't want their name on it. They're just trying to help. They're just That's it, and as long as you guys use it and enjoy it and it's valuable for you, they'll keep paying for it. And the alternative to that is that most of those private groups charge people between 25 and $50 a month to be members, right, right? And I'm saying, just take it for free. And even knowing, by the way, that if I got it set up and running and it was super popular, I could just charge you for it, not take their money, and I could probably make a lot more money on it. I'm not even trying to make. I don't ask them for $1 more than it costs me. I said, Can you please cover this? This is what it'll cost. They wrote a check. To be perfectly honest with you, I forgot that I have to pay taxes on the five grand they gave me. So I'm now, oh, don't do that. No, I'm paying the difference. I think it's a thing worth looking at. It could be really great for you guys. And if it works out, great, and if it doesn't, I'll put my head down and say it didn't work out, but, like, I'm giving it a shot, and I found somebody to support that. So anyway, you guys are being supported by a lot of diabetes device companies and other companies that you know they want your business. I'm not gonna lie to you, but they're also supporting this podcast because they know how much it helps people, right, right? Not just because it creates clicks.
Speaker 1 44:20
That is a great story, and the fact that they don't want credit for it, that's, you know, that's something that that really says something is that they believe in this. And they're saying, Hey, we don't, you know, we're not, we're not going to try to get a pat on the back for this. We just know it's the right thing to do, and it's what we want to do at this time. But you know, really, really, that that that also does speak to that their belief in your ability to continue to grow the community, and that they know that you know, if you've got this idea that there, there's something to investigate here,
Scott Benner 44:52
I appreciate that, and I agree, and that they've said that much to me, that's absolutely true. And they said, look, we've seen you help people in other avenues. Because this sounds reasonable to us, we think you could probably help people here too. Like, here, take some money and go see what you can figure out. And so, like, that's what I'm doing now. I'm going very slow at it, because I'm still learning the space as well, but I would tell you, like, to me, it's a much better version of Facebook.
Speaker 1 45:17
You know, as I said before, I am not a fan of Facebook. And I don't, you know, I go on it and I go, you know, I go in, and I can only do small doses of trying to help some people in the group. And I feel overwhelmed. I, you know, I wish there were different, and again, different channels and things like that, and this circle community, I think I when I look at the Facebook group, I have always wanted there to be a spot where you could clearly go and discuss the recent episodes, that you could talk about the guests, and ask if they're there, all that kind of stuff. But you try to post about an episode, and it gets it gets lost. And so this is, you know, this is becoming more and more of an anti Facebook discussion, but it's true, we're not able to see what we want to see. We can't organize things the way we want to organize that because I, you know, I love talking about the specific episodes, and that was one thing that and my husband's always like this, as soon as you lay down your head on the pillow, and all of a sudden I've got admin that I need to talk about. But in closing, I do have to publicly say, say thank you to you, because I have a dear friend, I guess they would say across the pond in England, Sarah. And she was her, she is Mom of poppy, who you interviewed back I think maybe it was March or so, but I wouldn't have become friends with her if I hadn't seen her post on the Facebook site. And then I probably wasn't supposed to just message her privately, but I did. We've become good friends. And we talk, you know, we talk on on WhatsApp, or you know, or you know, voice to voice every once in a while, and we love to discuss, did you hear the episode? What's you know? What do you think about those? What did she just say on that? I can't believe, you know, we love going back and forth, and I would love more people to be able to talk about the episodes, and I'm hoping the circle group can eventually.
Scott Benner 47:08
It will be, I think, and but I also think it's a slow build. It's going to take a it's going to be a bit of a heavy lift, and it's going to take a long time. The one thing I'm not anti Facebook group. I love that Facebook group. I think it's awesome.
Speaker 1 47:18
I'm overwhelmed by it. I really am. Because, again, you know how you saying you've got the helper mentality and all that. And I look, there's so much here, and what did I miss? And, you know, I
Scott Benner 47:27
can't think like that, Monica, you can't, you can't manage that and think that way. It's, it's all very like, whatever I can do, I can do whatever I see, I see, you can't put it on you to go find more or to do more. Yeah, it's all out there, and it gives you access to, I'm telling you, I love Facebook, and Facebook gives you the opportunity to get more new followers more frequently, and you know, and you're never gonna, and most people just, you know, they go the Facebook's their go to. So to get them to even leave an app, to go to another app is difficult, but it's there. Hopefully people will, will go find it, enjoy it. Okay, now we are gonna have to go where Rob's gonna like, he's gonna call you for $20
Speaker 1 48:04
well, that that, and you've got to go powder your nose for your headshot. I do. So I
Scott Benner 48:08
just want to let people know that I was asked for headshots by the people who are taking me for children with diabetes. I need headshots for the cruise. And I need, I
Speaker 1 48:18
was gonna say it was about the crew. About the cruise is they're going to have those, they're going to have glossy flyers that they're handing out. Yes, they're going to they're going to embark, and they're going to be handed the glossy flyer with the schedule.
Scott Benner 48:30
That's not what's going to happen. Yes, it is. A friend of mine is actually a headshot artist, so he does an awesome job, and I'm going to go meet him very soon. He's going to take care of it for me. So thank you. I appreciate this was great of you. I really do appreciate your
Unknown Speaker 48:45
time. No problem. Take care. You too.
Scott Benner 48:55
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