#454 Touched By Type 1

March 17, 2021Scott Benner

With founder Elizabeth Forrest

Elizabeth Forrest has type 1 diabetes and is the founder of my favorite type 1 charitable organization, Touched By Type 1!

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Scott Benner 0:00
Friends Hello, and welcome to Episode 454 of the Juicebox Podcast.

Today we're going to be speaking with Elizabeth, who has had Type One Diabetes since she was a child has just become a new mother herself, and is the founder of touched by type one. Today Elizabeth and I are gonna chat about how we met her Foundation, and living with Type One Diabetes. I think you're gonna like it. Please remember, as you're listening that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan. were becoming bold with insulin. If at any point today, you become interested in learning more about touched by type one, you can go to touched by type one.org. They also have a Facebook page. They're on Instagram. And generally speaking, there wonderfulness is available everywhere that they are touched by type one.org that's touched by type the number one.org.

This show is sponsored today by the glucagon that my daughter carries g vo hypo Penn Find out more at G Vogue glucagon.com forward slash juicebox. This episode is also sponsored by the Contour Next One blood glucose meter. You can learn more about the meter, and so much more at Contour Next one.com forward slash juicebox links to all the sponsors and today's guests are in the show notes of your podcast player and at Juicebox podcast.com.

Elizabeth Forrest 2:07
I am Elizabeth forest. I have Type One Diabetes was diagnosed in 1999. This is year 22. For me, I am a chief operating officer of a law firm in Central Florida and for fun have run a nonprofit for many years called touched by type one.

Scott Benner 2:26
Because that's what people do when they have the very low impact job like they look for. They look for other things to do in their spare time. How in the heck did we meet? Do you remember? I don't think I do.

Elizabeth Forrest 2:41
Yes, I do. So through the nonprofit through touched by type one, we had a committee meeting for the first ever conference we were going to put on. And one of our committee members who has also been on the podcast, Samantha Arsenault, who was incredible. She said, Oh, you've got to listen to this podcast. And so we're listening. And she said that we need Scott to speak at this first event. And so we reached out and you came to Florida and you spoke at the first event. And here we are,

Scott Benner 3:16
I will tell you that the Sam is somebody I still keep in touch with. And she was on the podcast so long ago that I think her episode only has like two numbers and it's in it she was in the 50s or something like that. And it's still it's still an episode that people use all the time it as a matter of fact, somebody referred me back to it the other day, like I was talking on the private Facebook group to somebody about an insurance problem. And someone jumped into it. Oh, yeah, you have to go to this episode with Samantha, because she has an uncanny grasp of how health insurance works for people. It's it's fascinating how she understands that it feels to me that she just sat down one day and taught it to herself.

Unknown Speaker 3:59
Yes, absolutely. That's what it seems like.

Scott Benner 4:01
Yeah, she's just like, I'm gonna understand this now. She really does. And I still to this day will, like privately, like tag her in something. And I feel bad every time I do it, but I'm just like, I bet you Sam could help.

Unknown Speaker 4:17
Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 4:18
I do the same thing. I we send people to her.

Scott Benner 4:20
And then she just takes care of it. And then I hear back from somebody a month or so later is like, Oh, we got the insulin pump. It's all good. Now, Sam, she fixed it. Yeah. So I have to thank her. My recollection, I have like a couple of like spotty recollections. But one of them was that I chose to rent a car for the first time I was there, because you guys were like getting an Uber and I was like, I don't do that. So by the way, I still don't do that. I'm still the only pain in the ass who shows up at your event and is like, I will get in a cab and you will reimburse me but I am not like I'm not doing this. But I decided to rent a car and I think I put it on myself. I didn't and I took care of it. So because of that I made it like as cheap as possible, and I just remember regretting that the entire time.

Unknown Speaker 5:06
Yeah, absolutely. That would definitely happen.

Scott Benner 5:08
Yeah, the entire time, I thought I really should have just gotten it and

Unknown Speaker 5:13
make it so much easier. Yeah.

Scott Benner 5:15
But your your event grew. And I have to thank you like, let me let me stop for a second and say thank you. And you know, by extension to Sam, I, you were the first people who were like, come to our thing and talk. Yeah. And so that's a risk on your part. And I remember having that conversation back then where I was like, Look, I can do a really good job of this. But here's the thing. I've never done it before. So

Elizabeth Forrest 5:40
Well, what's what's really neat about kind of anything, and everything we've always done is if we don't believe in what we're talking about, or we don't believe, and have tried and tested what we're bringing to the table, you know, what are we doing? And I remember having had type one diabetes, for as long as I had at that point, I can't remember how many years ago that was. But when I first listened to the podcast, and was kind of reading more on the blog, and really understanding what was your concept? I was like, This makes so much sense. Why has no one told me that as hell have I not figured this out yet. And then I told Samantha, we absolutely have to have him at our events, more people need to understand this. And it's, I mean, it's been a game changer. For me. I remember, I think I texted you after my next endocrinology appointment, after I had started kind of being bold with insulin, right. And it was a dramatic change. And, I mean, we'll talk about it, but it played a major part in having a very healthy, very successful pregnancy. And I my agency is still continues to go lower and lower every time and it's the lowest it's ever been in almost 22 years. That's really

Scott Benner 6:57
good. That's excellent. I love that. I remember, I can picture where I was standing in my kitchen. When I got a text from you which and to be fair to everybody unite, don't have some like super close personal relationship. Yeah, we know how to text each other. Because once a year, I come to Florida and I talk, which by the way, your thing has grown and grown the last time I did it in person. I mean, my goodness, it was in a giant place.

Elizabeth Forrest 7:24
It was a wonderful hotel, we had hundreds of people there the my opinion, the best speakers, we could we could have gathered in one setting. And it was such a fun but informative and impactful event. So I can't wait till we can do those again.

Scott Benner 7:39
Do you think I realize you're not you don't have a crystal ball? But do you think it's 2021 or 2022? Before stuff? Like that happens again?

Elizabeth Forrest 7:47
I think for I know for us for touched by type one. It'll be 2022 at the earliest?

Scott Benner 7:53
Yeah, yeah, I don't see trying to squeeze something in this year. Because even if suddenly like if magically, everything was just okay. Which obviously, that's not how things work. Even even if that happened, I don't know how you would put something like that together so quickly. Yeah,

Elizabeth Forrest 8:06
you know, and we're all such in the high risk category. Our lives are impacted by so much already. There's no need to add stress and things we don't even know about. I mean, we're all everyone in this world is learning about COVID-19 more and more every day. So there's no In my opinion, there's no pressure to rush something when our lives are at stake.

Scott Benner 8:27
At this point, after putting this much effort into helping people with type one, you don't want to your your long lasting feeling to be that Elizabeth was the one that figured out if you bring 300 people to type one together, they all get COVID and dropped it right.

Unknown Speaker 8:39
I don't want to be that person.

Scott Benner 8:41
That's that won't look good on your tombstone at all. No, definitely not. So I appreciate being you know, being patient with it. I and I tell you 100% whenever you start it back up, I'd be thrilled to be there. Awesome. Yeah, absolutely. One of the not one of the it's the best event I've ever been to. So thank you. No, it's terrific. Anyway, so you are how old when you were diagnosed?

Elizabeth Forrest 9:05
I was 11 years old. Hmm,

Scott Benner 9:07
you're definitely not 11 anymore. You said 20 years. So you're 33

Elizabeth Forrest 9:12
I turned 33 this year later in November. Yep.

Scott Benner 9:15
Is anyone impressed that I was able to put the 22 above the 11. And in my head, add to it one and two and one that quick? I'm not

Elizabeth Forrest 9:21
a math person myself. So yes.

Scott Benner 9:23
Like I said, I'm always like joking. And then people are like, I am kind of impressed. It's just plus one do it again. But so 33 give it a long time. Tell people a little bit. I know you probably tell the story more than you. At this point. You can probably tell it your sleep. But how did you start helping people with type one like what was the first thing you did?

Elizabeth Forrest 9:43
The first thing I did, I was a very, very, very, very and can't emphasize how much shy child but through the diagnosis of type one and having to be more comfortable speaking around adults and talking about Type One Diabetes for mild Safety. I got comfortable talking more. And I was in a dance program at a local Magnet School in Sanford, Florida. And we had put on a dance production through that school already. And so when that happened through the class curriculum, I thought, why don't we do this again, and invite our friends and family to the school theater, charge a few dollars, and whatever we collect, we'll give it to a diabetes organization. And we have fun in the process. That was the first thing we did. And I know it was a rather large idea at the time, but I was very lucky to have people around me that bought into it. I thought, Yeah, that's a great idea. Let's do it. I mean, I was a kid when I came up with it. But that spun into a huge event, dancing for diabetes is the name. And this past year in 2020, we celebrated our 20th annual show. With COVID precautions in place, it was a virtual shows very different than we've ever done. But it started really tiny all those years ago and grew into this huge production and later, a much larger, more comprehensive nonprofit organization that reaches a lot of people. So the first thing was dancing for diabetes, you did

Scott Benner 11:22
something? That's I mean, literally, from a small child's idea, by the way, anything else you ever tell your parents, they should diversify their 401k? No, I think we need to protect ourselves a little more. I'd like to get you a will data separate one. It is a big I mean, it's a huge idea. Like it's easy to say stuff out loud, I guess is my point like, Yeah, but then to make it happen, is, is a different level of focus and drive.

Elizabeth Forrest 11:52
Absolutely. But again, I mean, I have to give credit to there's so many people involved, and, and the fact that my school principal said yes. I mean, if he could have said no, most people would say no. But he said yes. And here we are. So it's it was definitely a little luck as well.

Scott Benner 12:08
Yeah. And you have to run into the right people on the way. This has nothing to do with that. But when I was in high school, a friend of mine, who was maybe a year or two older than me, told his English teacher one day that he wanted to start a landscaping company. And then he needed 20 $500 to buy a truck and a mower and a trailer to get started. And the English teacher gave him the money. And a number of years later, he had to buy the English teacher out of the business for $25,000. And to this day, the man runs one of the largest landscaping companies in the northeast.

Elizabeth Forrest 12:44
Are you hearing these sounds? No. What's wrong? Okay. Okay, my computer just made a sound. I'm sorry. I wanted to make sure you weren't hearing it in the background. No,

Scott Benner 12:54
I'll bet you If I hear noise, don't worry. Okay. But I just think that I think about that, like, he didn't come like he just be. I mean, he was like an 11th grade, you know what I mean? And he found a partner and bought a truck and turned it into a massive Corporation.

Elizabeth Forrest 13:09
I think that's awesome. It's so impressive. And there's so many stories like that. And it's pretty inspiring to hear those sorts of things. Because then people get ideas if Oh, I can do that, too. And maybe, maybe it's different, because something completely different. But it gives people the idea of you know, what is what is what am I good at? What can I bring to the table? And what can I create for good.

Scott Benner 13:30
And it's so different than, like, now I hate to say nowadays that, that I gotta find a better word than that. But like, you see somebody like, I'm gonna do a thing, like, what are you doing? Like, I got an Instagram account, and I'm gonna change the world. I'm like, Huh, I don't think you're going to. But that's not how all that works. You have to, I wish people would never understand probably the level of detail that goes into to something like that. So tell me a little bit about like when you set up, you know, when you know, how soon before I show up in Florida? Do you guys start thinking about it? for that year? Oh,

Elizabeth Forrest 14:03
gosh. We started a year in advance on on our conference on the show. In and those are things well, the show we've done it 20 times so far. So it's something that's relatively turnkey for us other than COVID throwing a wrench in but even when we have done a good job of creating a pretty good template, we still start a year in advance of thinking and brainstorming and what more can we do? How can we make it better? How can we reach more people? So minimum a year in advance?

Scott Benner 14:35
You do constantly have that feeling? Like Like, the way I describe it for me personally is excuse me what once you once you see that you have a thing, whatever it is that idea or a thought or something you can hold in your hand that make someone's life better. The next thought is how do I reach more people? Yeah, right right away. it's it's a it's a it's a burning feeling inside isn't it?

Elizabeth Forrest 14:58
It is Yeah. Because I know that there's, there has been so much productive positivity through through what we do. And it's like, you know, there's so many people that don't have access to, to really great resources or information, let alone the programs that we can help them with or the people we can connect them to at the very least. So it's we're constantly thinking, how can we reach more people? And how do we do it?

Scott Benner 15:23
Yeah, it's, um, it's a driving force behind me. Like, I always just think as long as the feedback is coming back from the podcast, the way it is, it's it's incumbent upon me to find more people to at least give the opportunity to hear it like I don't exactly I'm not trying to force it on anybody. Right. But they should know, like, because you said something earlier, like, why would know, like, Why is no one ever told this to me? Which is, is is insane. Because, you know, a couple of years ago, I don't know how your health was prior to the podcast, but it sounds like it got a lot better.

Elizabeth Forrest 15:59
Yeah, I mean, it was I would say I was average, and for being in this world so long, it shouldn't be average. It should be better. You should learn more along the way, but it was there wasn't getting any new information or any new help. I was also looking for it and so that I think that kind of comes with diabetes burnout at some point, you know, you get kind of in a point of being settled and Okay, and I'm getting by, but I was approaching a point in my life where I was thinking, Okay, how, how do I get better? How do I make this better? I talked to people every day, all day about type one diabetes, I need to be on the top of my game. So it was timing for me.

Scott Benner 16:54
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I feel like I should be telling you something here. top of my head. I like submarine movies. I don't know if you do or not but I really do. My favorite modern one is Crimson Tide. I think

is the idea of talking about management directly? I'm not saying that I've, I'm genuinely not trying to say like, I came up with something, but I'm, it's uncommon, like I've found it in the space to be uncommon. I think that i think that that's part of the reason why the podcast excelled, is because I felt like one of the places that people were lacking was they would always tell you like, Oh, yeah, I know, it's hard to have diabetes, or you know, I have burned out, you have burned out, like, it was always a lot of that, like, here's what's wrong. And let's all commiserate a little bit. So we feel like we're not alone, which I genuinely feel like is a is a massive value for people. But I always thought that the people who were doing well, like who really had it, like kind of dialed in. I never, I never saw people like that. But I couldn't imagine that they didn't exist. So how come they weren't out in this? If there's a space? Like, why not be in the middle of it and ring a bell and tell somebody? So I just don't know, that doesn't happen more?

Elizabeth Forrest 21:12
Yeah, I don't know, either. And, you know, one of the bigger things for me with being bold with insulin is, I think it really opened my eyes to the fact that I could be in charge of my type one diabetes, and I could think outside the box, and I could be ever evolving. And I shouldn't be settling for what I've was told 1015 years ago, and still trying those same things and seeing the same results. And I think it was kind of like an eye opener, a light bulb went off of Oh, I can do this differently. And up until that point, no one or nothing out there led me to think that i think that that's a huge part of everything you do is just opening your eyes that you can think outside the box.

Scott Benner 22:01
Yeah, I've just I don't know another way to say it. Like it wasn't on purpose. Meaning like, I, I always did look at the space and think, I don't know why more people aren't just saying what works like I was I started seeing and I'm like, I'm gonna say it. But I think it's more. It's something that I can for myself, trace back in my whole life. Like if you were to come up to me when I was eight years old, and say, you know, Scott, this is my friend, Jim. And my dad was introducing me to someone and then Jim ended up being an idiot, or an ass or something like that. I would not curtsy to Jim because he was older than me. And then my dad would pull me aside later and say something like, you know, you got to be respectful. He's older than you. And I always thought to myself, like, why does that matter? Right? Like, why? Why? Because he's older than me. Do we have to pretend he's not a dumb ass? Like, like, I don't I don't get that part of it. Right. And so I've just never really felt like, I don't think that I live in a space in my head where you telling me this is as good as it gets? And I just go okay. Yeah, you know, that's great. Yeah, I just feel like what's fight back against it and see how far we can beat this thing back. And around diabetes. You know, I really do kind of believe and I hope, I mean, I guess I should knock on some wood. I hope I never find out. But I don't know if I would have gotten type one. If I would have come to any of these ideas. Or if I would just be another person kind of lost in the sea of average I'm getting by this is okay. Hopefully, like that would have been good luck. You know, I think I think it was because it was for Arden. And I just was like I can't let her live like this, you know? Right.

Unknown Speaker 23:37
Right. Well,

Scott Benner 23:38
anyway, I appreciate you having me down there. That was a really big deal for me. Because, you know, someone said, Look, we have a thing and this guy saying something reasonable. And it was it wasn't easy, right? Like, let's be honest. Like I stand up in front of a group of people. And I say a lot of things to them that they've never heard before. Yeah. So you I can't imagine there wasn't a little bit of hand wringing on your side real like, somebody stand in the back of the room. Make sure he doesn't say something.

Elizabeth Forrest 24:06
Well, I definitely set upfront for your session, because like, I need to hear it. I need to know what's going on. And I loved every minute of it. Great. That first one? Yep.

Scott Benner 24:15
But honestly, had I gone wrong? Was there like a hook on a long pole that was gonna yank me off?

Elizabeth Forrest 24:20
No, I had a lot of faith in you. There was no backup plan.

Scott Benner 24:25
So I get a text one day from you. And it's, I think you're telling me that you're in the parking lot of your endocrinologist office, and you're telling me about your a one c? I'm never going to forget that. Because after we kind of went back and forth real quickly, I'm not good at those conversations. I don't think cuz I'm always like, like, there's a little voice inside of my head that goes Yeah, well, you've just probably Pre-Bolus to get your basil right. And it's not that big of a deal is a good job, you know? And so I feel like I'm bad at those conversations, but it made me smile. I thought it was really terrific. And then you know, When the text conversation feels like it's going to end, but you get one more, and I got this one that said something like, if you remember, you'll tell me, but it was sort of like, never tell my husband that I told you this before.

Elizabeth Forrest 25:11
Yeah, I think so. Because normally I'll leave and I'll tell him and yeah, I told you first, you're the first to hear it

Scott Benner 25:17
really stuck in my head. And first of all, it was it was, it was heartwarming, like, I was like, wow, like, I did, like, here's how it feels like, if you're going on, like I did said, or something, something that led to a person who I know, you know, professionally, to reach out to me personally and say, Hey, I just want to let you know how this is going.

Elizabeth Forrest 25:37
And well, I mean, you know, this is someone with type one, it's just, it's so impactful to have finally found something that makes sense, right. And it wasn't overly complicated and wasn't very involved. But it just it took some a new a new approach to thinking about it. And it made a huge difference in my health, which, obviously, our health affects so many things. But it was just like, I don't even know how to describe it. But the feeling of having had Type One Diabetes for so long at that point, and something new coming in and fixing it. There was just, it was great. And I just was so appreciative that the podcast is out there. The blog is out there. The information is out there. You're out there doing all this and trying to reach as many people because I'm healthier today because of it. I'm healthier today because of our Dan essentially. Yeah,

Scott Benner 26:32
I I try to tell her sometimes, but she's still not old enough to. She's still 16. So she's like, Yeah, tell those people they're welcome. And oh my god. I like when people are like you should bring her to an event. I'm like, Yeah, I don't think so. Like, that's what you're looking for. But really try to imagine my sarcastic like wit inside of a 16 year old girl who's not alive. Yeah, who didn't raise a girl with Type One Diabetes, so she doesn't have any of those soft feelings that I have. So funny. It's um, I'm forever gonna wonder. And I'm going to try to help her as long as I can, obviously, but she grew up in a world where, like, she just doesn't have in her mind. She doesn't have any of the things holding her back that other people who grew up with like, I'm not kidding you. Yesterday Arden's I say the words Arden's period too much on this podcast. But artists definitely premenstrual right now. And she got on her online schooling, she comes downstairs, and she says, I'm not hungry. And I'm like, okay, but I'm very hungry. And I was like, okay, but nothing in the house seems right. And I was like, Oh, god, it's gonna be one of these, like, you know, and I was like, so we're going through everything. And she finally says, here's what I want to do. And I'm like, okay, she goes, I want grapes. a banana. And chicken is like, yeah, and she goes, Yeah, and I'm gonna have chips with it. And I was like, Okay, now, health issues aside, like with this food choices. I never thought, well, she can't eat that. And more importantly, to me, she never thought I can't eat. I can't do that. It never occurred to her. And I guarantee you, she's had diabetes since she was two. If she was 16, and we didn't figure out the things we figured out, she would have those thoughts, and then swallow them. Oh, absolutely. Like, absolutely, yeah, I'm gonna have a banana and grapes and chips and chicken. And then she thinks, no, I have diabetes, I can't do that. And I think that's where the, where some real problems come in, like, Oh, yeah,

Elizabeth Forrest 28:42
I mean, I, I think that I understand it now. And I look at it differently. But for the majority of my life, food was medicine. It was a, it was a tool that I had to use at different times for different reasons. And that leads to a whole other set of issues and topics to or could, I should say, but But yeah, I mean, you know, it's, we talked about this amongst ourselves that touched by type one, that, you know, it's a blessing and a curse to be diagnosed so young, because, you know, with the, with the right family and the right resources and information, by the time you're more aware of what's going on around you, it's kind of second nature, but at the same time, you know, you don't want your kid you don't want yourself to have had Type One Diabetes for that long, or to have it period. So, you know, I can I can remember times without type one, but unfortunately, most of my life is, is with type one.

Scott Benner 29:41
Yeah, I the only time I can feel myself, I'm gonna use the word frustrated, but I don't mean it that way. When feeling frustrated with an interaction between Arden and diabetes and food, is when I see her go, Oh, nevermind. I can't have that right now. I feel like I let her down that she thinks that and we don't like it. We are very obviously not limiting with one sheets. Also, I think I should be clear Arden doesn't have potato chips and bananas and chicken. Like for lunch usually, but it just, you know when those those hormones hit people, and when I say people I think I mean women. It's fascinating. Like she's like, you know, it sounds good and like, that doesn't set okay. Yeah. But But if I see her say like, oh my blood sugar's you know 150 I can't have that. And then I'm like, are no, no, you can just here's what we have to do if she goes no, forget it. That makes me feel sad. And I think it comes out as frustration because I'll stop. And I'll say, look, we can do this. Like, I don't know, like, Alright, your blood sugar got to one. I know that sounds crazy to some people, but like are your blood sugar got the 140. And it's not where we want it to be. But we're gonna make a big Bolus right now, I'm going to crush that 140. And I'm going to use it as a Pre-Bolus. And we're going to go right into the food. And you can do this, like you can be eating this food in 10 minutes. And most of the time, she'll go for it, but it's when she says no, I don't want to wait. That I'll say, well, then don't wait. Let's just do it, then. Like I like I would rather her blood sugar be higher than for her to have that thought.

Elizabeth Forrest 31:10
Sure. Yeah. That's, that's the best way to approach it.

Scott Benner 31:14
It just makes sense to me. I can't believe that. I even have common sense. But around this I actually, actually. So what are you trying to do with touch by type one? Like, what's its goal? Because when I do like, Listen, I know it's no secret anybody's listening. You buy ads on the podcast, I think after I was down there, the first or second time, you reached out to me and said, I want to find out if I can get an ad on the podcast. And I was excited. I tell people all the time, I genuinely mean it. There are a number of advertisers on the podcast, I feel 1,000,000% comfortable standing behind every one of them, whether they're a device and what they do, or if they're, you know, a medication and how they work or an organization and what it does. But I have a hard time telling people what because I'm always just like, just go check it out, you'll see like, they're helping people find out. But what would you you know, what's the longer idea of what touched by type one is,

Elizabeth Forrest 32:12
so it really is connecting with people that need us. And that's what it comes down to at its core. We've all found through our different experiences, that different programs or services or resources weren't available at different times or for specific people. And so we just want to eliminate all that all that and, and get the information out to those that need it or that wanted, I should say. And if if we can connect with one more child or one more adult that was just diagnosed with diabetes, and give them the tools and resources so they can independently thrive with diabetes we did. We did everything we could have ever imagined. And so it's really just connecting with people so they can have a good experience. So they don't have to think their Type One Diabetes diagnosis is going to limit them from anything. And I it's how I've lived my life is I don't let Type One Diabetes get in the way. It's it's a huge part of who I am. And it's led me to a lot of interesting experiences and people, but it does not stop me from anything. And I want that for everyone. I want everyone to go after whatever it is they want. I like

Scott Benner 33:22
it. It's not when you talk about it, it doesn't feel like a corporate pamphlet. I don't know, I don't know. Just like we're gonna do good things for people who have type one diabetes.

Elizabeth Forrest 33:33
Yeah. And we're we're, we evolve every day. I mean, it's, we have such a great group of people that are connected and, and part of different committees and on our board. And we always talk about Okay, what more can we do? Like I said before, but what's what's not happening in our community? Or who are we not connecting with? And how do we do that? And what information is missing? And we're constantly listening to people in our communities to find those answers out. And all of our programs are because of that, because we were listening to what other people needed, right? Because we all have our own experiences and have different needs. But that doesn't mean those are the same for everyone else, either. So we are constantly evolving and changing to make sure that we're providing what people want. Because if they don't need what we're offering, or what are we doing?

Scott Benner 34:26
Yeah. And if and if I don't offer the thing that they want, I hope they can find it somewhere else. I have to say I've, I've taken that. So I started a Facebook page at the behest of people listening. So I always had like a public page where I'd just be like, there's an episode out or you know, that kind of stuff. But I'm not very social media focused. To me, the podcast is is the thing. And so enough people asked for a private group so that they could find other listeners to talk to and I just thought like, okay, like, What do I care, you know, like I was like I'm making for you. So I built this private group and You know, a builder takes 20 minutes, and you put it together. And I think it's been up, and not for a year even. And there's like, almost 10,000 people in it. And they're just all helping each other. And at first, it made me uncomfortable at first I was like, Oh, no, like, am I? Like, I'm not really sponsoring this. But like, what if somebody says something in here, I don't think is right. But so many people who listen to the show came into it, that it just, it's fascinating how quickly they come to a consensus together, they don't fight. It's it. And I never imagined how valuable it was going to be. And some days I watch it, do things that I know, I don't accomplish with the podcast. And that just made me feel like, wow, like, Look, the podcast made this thing, we've brought these people together, and these people are solving problems for each other. I could not I'm only one person, like I could never have done all this. It's very cool to watch it. Grow. I that's there's a better world,

Elizabeth Forrest 36:03
you you created a community. And and that's what people need. And that's what people want, when they want to kind of take charge and see a better outcome. And one of our board members is always talking about how you know if I could change my daughter's diagnosis to never happening? Sure, absolutely, I would. But look at this great community that we've been a part of, because because of it, it's kind of the silver lining. And so I see see that Facebook page as your silver lining as well. And one of many, but creating a community is so impactful on so many people one that they want. Yeah,

Scott Benner 36:41
yeah, it's so difficult when you're driving the bus to see everything that's going on in the bus like and saying, I can look over my shoulder sometimes and think like, that's really good. But I don't have enough time to, like really dissect it and look at it. I just think it's running well. And that's great. And let it go. I have to be honest, it's something about bringing enough like minded people together on a subject is why it runs smoothly. Because, you know, sometimes there's stuff that flares up in the world that's political or social or something. And you can see for a split second, these people don't have a lot else in common besides this diabetes thing. But look at how they get together on the diabetes thing. Very cool.

Unknown Speaker 37:27
Yeah. Yeah, it is.

Scott Benner 37:29
Yeah, I just I love it. And you're doing it in a it's funny that, you know, I used to think when I very first started, like doing an ad, I always thought like, well, I'm doing an ad for an organization. It's a local organization in Florida. And then the last time we were together, you told me like, I'm starting to, like you started to hear from people outside of your area. And

Elizabeth Forrest 37:52
oh, yeah, we have with with some of our programs, we reach people beyond Central Florida. And so we have people that are connected to us now and have been for a while all across the country. And we connect with people more so in the past year, mostly because of COVID. internationally. Now, I mean, I don't, I don't want to dive, unless there's time to dive too much into some of our programs. But the one I will say is our D box program is a free kit to those recently diagnosed, has a ton of information has material samples, products and programs that we believe in wholeheartedly, that are productive and living with Type One Diabetes, but we offer this program for free to anyone that wants one and and we've been able to reach so many people that way and get them this information that they might not have been able to get without this program. And last year 2020 we distributed about 2000 boxes across the country and had so many requests internationally. But you know, we're a we're a relatively small nonprofit organization and to provide something for free right now. We can't do it internationally as well. But we're we're working on something that we'll be able to reach across the globe Pretty soon, which is pretty exciting. So excellent.

Scott Benner 39:14
No, I it's just really, to me, it's it's a it's uplifting, and I will never forget the first time I was at your thing, and there were kids dancing in another room. I'm like I slipped in there for a second. So like I go in, and I realized that I have no connection to dance. I can't dance. First of all, I'm and my children don't dance. I've never been around it. And I walked in. It's a completely new experience for me. And these kids were just they were joyous. Like they had so much life in their face and they were having such a good time and the people who were directing them and helping them. Were having such a great time. And then I really looked at I was like, man, all these kids have diabetes. Like this is really cool. You know? It just really felt great. So I know there are tons of people who love dance. And so I'm like when they you guys have to see their program like I would imagine if you're a dance person, this is just the craziest thing that I started seeing video over the years. I was like, this thing's amazing, like, I

Unknown Speaker 40:15
think so.

Scott Benner 40:16
Like Elizabeth pull this all together from like her house when she was like nine or something like

Elizabeth Forrest 40:22
it has evolved that is for sure. It is not the first show. Our most recent show is far from the first show that was in my parents driveway.

Scott Benner 40:31
It's come a long way. You know, it's funny, as you told the story, I was like, she's not getting to the part where it happened in their driveway.

Elizabeth Forrest 40:38
I always forget to mention it. I don't know why. But I guess I imagine I relate the first show with being in the theater. And so even the first show that was in the theater is drastically different than what it is today. But But yeah, I mean, this show literally did start on my driveway, my my dance class came over to my house, we warmed up, surrounding my swimming pool in the backyard. And when all of the family and friends that were in the front yard lined along our very long driveway with like a grill going face painters, it was this very interesting little event we put together. But my I remember my dance class, warming up by the pool, and then walking from the backyard to the front. And we performed two or three dances on the driveway for everyone that was there is like entertainment. And and that is what led to the idea, along with having produced to show through the school of let's call it dancing for diabetes and put on a show. But yeah, it started on my driveway. It's so crazy to think back to that time.

Unknown Speaker 41:46
You remember how much money you raised that day?

Elizabeth Forrest 41:49
I think we raised like, maybe $1,000 maybe we had we had things like you had to guess how many jelly beans were in a jar. I mean, it was it was so different than everything we do now. But it's really cool that it started that way.

Scott Benner 42:04
Yeah, I would say so. I mean, like last time, we were all together. I thought like this is like this is like walking through Disney World. There were a lot of like, there's just a lot of people there. And there were people coming from distances. And yeah, I have to say like I do a fair amount of speaking things. And that's the thing that like always shocks me is that when somebody says they traveled a distance to get there, I just think wow, like that's how desirous they are of like camaraderie community help, whatever it is they're looking for. It's so valuable, and at the same time unavailable to them that they that they can make a day travel a distance, you know, spend the night in a hotel, sometimes I've seen people do

Elizabeth Forrest 42:45
yeah, I mean, not not 2020. But in 2019, we learned of a family that had traveled from Connecticut, to come to Florida, in Orlando, to to attend our show downtown Orlando in a theater. And I want to say they heard it on the podcast. And maybe I'm just connecting the Northeast with class, I don't know, but I'm pretty sure the connection was there. And that was that like blew my mind that they traveled that far. And then in 2020, when we basically when I made the decision to still ensure dancing for diabetes would continue but do it safely. Through a virtual show, we had people able to tune in again for free from anywhere in the world. And we had people viewing from 22 different countries and until we reached more people and watching our show production than we ever have. And that was really cool. And you know, it's another positive that came out of 2020. But it was incredible to me that so many people got to see the show, which is a baby of mine to an extent, and that we reach so many more people than we ever have. And that was just really cool.

Scott Benner 44:02
It's just the greatest thing. I did an online thing last year for like a small group is like 30 people. But they were all in Japan. And I was just like, I'm like, how is this happening? Like, I don't know that people would understand completely but I didn't start a podcast and go you know, what I'll do is I'll start a podcast about my ideas around type one diabetes, and soon it'll just be listened to all over the world. Like you don't think that's going to happen, you know, and I interviewed a woman recently he is living in Israel. Oh geez, I just didn't I just interviewed a woman from Iran recently. Australia, New Zealand like those like the obvious places like, I can't believe how big the podcast is in England, and stuff like that. And when that happens to me, like there's a moment where you're just like, Oh, it's working and that like the the business part of it feels good. But then you really stop and think that these people like who are living a life similar to yours. My daughter's there everywhere. And you know, you're still only reaching the ones that can be reached like there are plenty of places in the world that people have Type One Diabetes right now. And they don't have internet access, or they don't have a cell phone to listen to this with or the time or again, how would they even find out about, you know, about touched by type one? Or about a podcast or something like that, right? I just Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 45:22
no, I am,

Unknown Speaker 45:23
I

Elizabeth Forrest 45:24
can tell you with 100% certainty that when I was a middle school student, I never imagined having that show, whether it was on my driveway or the school, that it would ever evolve to anything near as close to what we have today. And I always tell people, if you have an idea, you know, as little as it might seem, because that seems really small to me at the time. Do it, try it? If it works, it works. If it doesn't, you tried, and you never know where it's gonna go. But yeah, I definitely understand your thought of never imagining how big it would grow. I can definitely relate.

Scott Benner 46:01
What is it like, personally for a second, like taking the organization out of it and everything? Does it feed you in a certain way?

Elizabeth Forrest 46:09
Oh, absolutely. It is. It's kind of, it's a hobby for me at this point. It's fun, it inspires me because I get to see whether it's daily or on a monthly basis how productive and impactful it is. And it just it really just brings me so much joy, to know that we're doing something so good, despite something so awful. So yeah, it touches me personally, all the time, when I take a step back and reflect on everything.

Scott Benner 46:39
Yeah, I can't imagine it wouldn't. I mean, I can tell you that at the beginning of the episode, where you said that you felt like what you learned on the podcast, like led to a healthy pregnancy? I don't that that makes me feel like I always like it makes me uncomfortable. And then so I joke about it. And I'll be like, you should have named your baby after me. But that's really just to deflect from the fact that I have a lot of emotions around it. And I I don't even know how to respond to something like that. You know, but what what do you end up having a little boy, right?

Elizabeth Forrest 47:09
Yes, we have a little boy, he is just about five months old now. So it's been quite an experience and journey so far, a wonderful one. But when I could have never really fully prepared for

Scott Benner 47:22
what would my name have had to have been for me to get a baby named after me? Because my name is things. That's the problem, right? Like, no, it's

Elizabeth Forrest 47:31
not a bad name at all. And I mean, this is going to sound like an excuse. But we did name our son after my husband, his father, who's also named after his father. So he's a third. So we were kind of keeping it in the family that makes you feel bad. I

Unknown Speaker 47:47
mean,

Scott Benner 47:48
you know, maybe I got a note from somebody recently that said, we're not going to name our baby after you. But I think they're going to name their pet after like, my last name, but I was like, I'm totally taking that.

Elizabeth Forrest 48:01
That's nice. I mean, pets are part of the family. So that's a big deal, at least to me,

Scott Benner 48:05
I honestly was thrilled. I was like, this is a major accomplishment for me. Someone's dog is named with my last name. I was like, I've winning, dammit. But now it's just so it described to people a little bit like you've had diabetes for a good long time you had it? Where are you? Like you said, you were doing just Okay, you've had it where you were doing better? And you've had it where you're doing better, and you're pregnant? What's it like to go from? Like those? those segments? I guess? Like, what's it like living at? Okay, first of all, what's the downside?

Elizabeth Forrest 48:38
You know, it's, it's kind of, for me, it was I felt like I was in a rut. And I felt like, I couldn't see the light to get out of just being okay. And in every other aspect of my life, I'm not someone that just settles for. Okay, so that was really frustrating for me. But I will say that, getting out of it and finding resources and a way to make myself better. I feel like that was almost like a reset button, and kind of a new chapter in my diabetes life. And one, there was a point years ago, someone asked me the question, does diabetes get easier with time? And I said, No. And I said that, throughout my life, like everyone's life, we were constantly evolving and changing and growing. But there are things that happen in our lives that force us to change and to grow for, for better or for worse. And, you know, when you're a teenager, and you have to learn how to drive a car, and then you go off to college, you're dating, you're interviewing for jobs, I mean, diabetes has a play and all that. And so learning those things are new and challenging, but then throw diabetes into it. And that's a whole other layer of a new challenge. And so diabetes Constantly part of the mix. And so that's why I say no, it doesn't get easier. You might learn some things along the way. But then there's more to learn in life itself.

Scott Benner 50:10
I found for me that it didn't, it doesn't get easier, but I got so much better at it, that there are times when it can feel easy. And I'll take Yeah, you know,

Elizabeth Forrest 50:20
definitely I agree with that,

Scott Benner 50:21
I'll take that as a win. Like, I it's always gonna be a grind, right? Like, it's always gonna be the same stuff over and over again. And there are definitely days where you're just like, oh my god, like, How could my infusion set have gone bad? Like right here? Like, like, right, you know, like, I'm looking at art. And I'm like, now like, not now like, Oh, my God, all right, like, but you don't say those things out loud anymore. And eventually you don't feel them. You just see the you know, oh, the pods out of insulin, let's change it. And you do it. And you're right back to it again, and you just go back to life. It doesn't, it doesn't take a big chunk out. But I'll tell you, the IRS prior like a long time ago, just something like a you know, a pump change, or something like that. You're just it felt dreadful, like ah, and I and I don't feel like that anymore. And I don't think Arden does either. And it's not because she got accustomed to it. I think it's because we chose to think about it differently.

Elizabeth Forrest 51:18
Definitely, you know, and I was just going to say, I don't know if it's the same for you. But my kind of thought process on it all has been that, you know, diabetes throws curveballs. And you can do the same thing one day, and it's different than next. But those moments where I have to wake up in the middle of the night and change my sight because something's not working. Or today, my salad spiked my blood sugar to this amount, those sort of moments where you have to rethink the next move. Even though everything up to that point has worked. I feel like I've been able to apply those sort of lessons and thoughts in my non diabetes life, if one exists, if one could exist. But whether it's work or back when I was in school, it's it kind of teaches you an interesting life skill of adapting. And I always try to find those sorts of tools and lessons when I'm especially working with the kids with diabetes in our dance program is, you know, this is awful. This is horrible. I wish I didn't have diabetes. I wish you didn't either. But we have it. So what can we do in a positive approach to live better with it? And, and part of that is your mentality and thinking, Okay, this bad thing just happened? Well, how can I make it better? And I just I think it's been an interesting approach for me coupled with that your tools of living better?

Scott Benner 52:39
I have to say that, at one point, I'm always kind of evolving how I think about it. And at one point, if you said to me, like, Scott, I only have a couple of seconds. Like, what's the secret here? I would tell you got to get your basil, right? You have to learn your Pre-Bolus time, you have to understand the impacts of different foods. And I used to stop at that. And now there's a fourth thing, and I think it's that you have to remain flexible. Yes, absolutely. It's it. There's an agility that's mental, that you You just have to embrace. And it has to be that dammit, a salad has never made my blood sugar go up before but this time it did. So stop thinking about the salad. Now start thinking about the number How do I fix it without causing a low do that thing? Move forward? Exactly right. Just like that not not stand around for three hours going? This doesn't make any sense. My blood sugar shouldn't be high. This has never happened with salad before. Oh my God, is this going to be a thing that happens with salad now? Like you can't like you can't fall down that rabbit hole. Because the truth is the next salad you eat, it's probably not going to happen that way.

Unknown Speaker 53:43
And so exactly,

Scott Benner 53:45
right. Right. And and if Listen, if you want to try to dig into why one salad in six months, major blood sugar pop up, I'm sure you could figure it out eventually. But in the moment that is not valuable for you it is it is absolutely the opposite of valuable. it's maddening. And so you know, stay flexible. It's get your basil, right? figure out, you know, the lead time your insulin needs to work, and it's going to be different from one meal to the next, you know, to the next. And then you know, learn the difference between 10 carbs of rice and 10 carbs of watermelon and etc, etc. And then stay flexible. Because when we started really talking about variables, like when, so when I made the pro tip series, I started up I got Jenny side privately and I was like, Jenny, listen, like I want to take these ideas I talked about on the podcast, I was like I make them a little less scattershot. The way I talk through them. Like I think they should live somewhere in the road episodes. Could you come on and like, like be my equilibrium a little bit so I don't get carried away talking? And she's like, sure. And then she started getting involved. And I was like, Oh my god, she's like, brilliant at this. Like this is fantastic. And so at one point, I was like, Is there anything I'm not talking about that you think I should and she's like Well, I'm glad you asked and Gina and she gave me a couple of ideas. So some of the pro tip episodes are our journey building on to the pro tips as well. And the one thing she said is like, we have to talk about variables for people. Because some people will, you know, you see it online, sometimes they'll make this list of things that you know how people like to be like, like, Oh, my diabetes is just easy, I count my carbs. And I do this except if this happens, and then they make this long list of things. And the inference is that there are so many variables, I couldn't possibly know them all. And that's true. But I think like, what's the next part of that sentence? And I think is, so you don't really need to know them all. You need to know what to do when they pop up. Exactly. Right. And you need to know like this, like, quick, you don't want to have to sit around for an hour rain, you know, figuring it out.

Unknown Speaker 55:48
Yeah, you know,

Scott Benner 55:50
you said something earlier that I wanted to loop back to for a second if I can, you are a go getter, like you are not a sit still person. And you know, I think that, you know, you said earlier, you're an attorney and you run a nonprofit, like, this is obviously not a person who's, you know, who's just happy to like, sit around for a whole Saturday afternoon watching the sun. So I really want to ask, like when your blood sugar wasn't doing what you wanted it to do? Like, how does that impact you personally, when that's your personality?

Elizabeth Forrest 56:22
Well, let me say this first. I'm not an attorney, I am the Chief Operating Officer, I run the firm. I've been at this company almost 10 years. So I manage attorneys, but I'm not one. And a lot of people think I am because of my position. So I just want to clarify that. But to go back to the question. So. And the question is just because I lost my train of thought on

Scott Benner 56:44
when you're a person who does what you do, right? So and you're a person who is very driven inside? And and and you still have results and things like that when

Unknown Speaker 56:55
you're

Scott Benner 56:56
putting that kind of effort into diabetes and not getting those results back. How does that impact you psychologically? I

Elizabeth Forrest 57:01
guess? Yeah. So I would say how it affects me now is definitely different than how it affected me 678 years ago, so 100% it's frustrating, because I am absolutely someone that goes after something gets it done, I have goals, we're going to reach it. Whatever needs to happen, we're going to find a way to get to that. So when you use that same thought process for diabetes, which will do whatever it feels like doing, I remember one one comment my endo asked me years and years ago, I have a great relationship with Him been seeing him a long time. But he asked me one time, you know why your blood sugar is so high. And my immediate response without thinking was I have diabetes of type one diabetes. That's why they're so high and it does whatever it feels like. And he laughed. But my, my thought process and now is that I just keep trying something else. So I'm frustrated. But if my blood sugar's high, then I'm going to give myself another little bit of insulin, I'm going to go grab a water, I'm going to set a timer to look and see in 510 20 minutes, has it come down at all? Or I'm going to look at my site. Is that okay? Did I eat something weird today? I mean, these thoughts are constantly going through my mind of what can I do next, if this doesn't work? And and so I find myself being less and less frustrated, because I kind of have the tools in my toolbox now that I never did before. of, Okay, this didn't work, well, maybe this will and eventually it works. And if it doesn't, the next day comes along. And it's a whole whole other set of challenges with diabetes. But I think that I just I looked at my toolbox a lot. Yeah,

Scott Benner 58:51
I that's terrific. It really is I use you just were talking about like setting a timer and looking back in 10 minutes or so. There's so much of I did this I made a Bolus here. I know what I want to happen and what I expect to happen. If that doesn't happen. It's not happening. So I have to do it again.

Unknown Speaker 59:10
Right. You know, I

Scott Benner 59:11
have to I have to re address it. I know people be like, Oh, well you're stacking insulin. And I always say like, you know, it's not stacking if you need it. That's bolusing you know, like there's a difference. There's a difference. It's a theoretical, like you have to really kind of pick through it like you can't just keep giving yourself insulin over and over again because it will jump on you at one point yeah,

Elizabeth Forrest 59:30
of course do the wrong well one thing that I think scares a lot of people a definitely scared me and something I quickly got over and listening to your podcast is if if you can fix it with a juice box or Gatorade in my case or a fruit snack, do it. What's the worst that's gonna happen? It's gonna drop really low, but I'm monitoring it. I'm not ignoring the fact that I've diabetes. So if I can fix it with something nearby, I'm going to keep giving myself a little bit more insulin with certain amount of time in between, because because I can't and so that when I understood that concept, I definitely saw a little bit more results to have of not being scared of below. I was always terrified of lows I still am, I don't want to get low in the middle the night and not realize it. But knowing that you don't have to be all the time is really empowering. And then I will just say because I know that a lot of times even listening to the podcast and listening to other speakers, sometimes it could sound like the other person knows exactly what they're doing. I right now my blood sugar is is high. I'm 171 Today has been so challenging. I couldn't tell you why. But I have right now my agency is about 5.7 when I was in a few weeks ago, so not every day is perfect. But most of the time, I'm in a certain range. And so I think that's really important for other people to hear. Because when people are doing well, they don't necessarily talk about what's not working or what's bad or that because people want to see the good, but it's really important to know that you don't have to be perfect to be better at diabetes.

Scott Benner 1:01:13
I try to tell people all the time that at least twice a day Arden's blood sugar will make it to 160 sometimes 180 or something like that. And her a one C is still in the mid fives consistently. Yeah, the difference is the little pieces like you've been talking about for you know, throughout the whole hour. It's it's not like just going Oh, my blood sugar's 180. And then not thinking about it again. It's Oh, it's 180 I'll bring it back down. You know, not that I wonder blood sugar, it'll be 180. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if it should happen, you can't just go Okay, well, diabetes, and then walk away and leave it there,

Unknown Speaker 1:01:45
you got to do something, you have to do

Scott Benner 1:01:46
something about it. It's just it's a it's not a difficult concept. But there's something about the way standardized diabetes education is has been built over the years. That makes it feel like oh, it went up, it'll come back eventually. And I used to think, well, maybe it's different now. Because, you know, glucose sensing technology, like, you know, Dexcom, and stuff like that. But now I wonder more if it wasn't the just in the past, because that stuff didn't exist. And the idea was, well, if he's has too much, you're gonna burn yourself out. So don't test too much. Just test. Count your carbs, give yourself in some wait three hours check again, correct that if it's high, you know, if that whole thing didn't just come from the idea of, you can't, the concept of Well, you can't really control it anyway. So you might as well not burden yourself with it. You know what I mean? And if somehow that doesn't end up morphing into the direction that people get current day, that really isn't as valuable anymore. So I don't know. Like, I just think that at every one of these events, you know, I go to I eventually will meet one family whose kids blood sugar is just insane. It's like over 400 most of the day, and you talk to the parent, and they just they don't they don't understand why. And I don't see how, as long as that exists in the world, anywhere. I don't see how you and me and anybody else who has a voice that's valuable. wouldn't try as hard as they can to reach a bunch of people. Absolutely.

Elizabeth Forrest 1:03:22
That's exactly what we're all doing. Yeah.

Scott Benner 1:03:25
So So watch this, you're gonna be very impressed. It's not written down anywhere. Watch this. If you'd like to do something great for people living with Type One Diabetes, you should check out touched by type one.org and find them on Instagram, and Facebook. I was that it's not bad. Awesome. I can do that in my sleep. Elizabeth. Just

Unknown Speaker 1:03:45
that's so cool. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't be surprised if Kelly wakes me up one day and goes oh my god, fine. I'll go to touch by type on.org Leave me alone.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:54
Fantastic. I

Scott Benner 1:03:54
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